/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

General numberfag sites
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/CCfK7mVR

>>13622333
Bold statement

So basically Yamada is new Haachama?
Will make more videos than stream.

Question for numberfags.
When calculating CCV, are their any sites that include CCV from premieres? Or are they universally excluded.

>>13622374
>intro 2.0
Yes, Laplus is unironically using the Ethyria playbook and will probably be doing a watchalong next week.

>>13622550
Hololyzer

>>13622530
who the fuck is yamada?

Friend still holding 34k+ close to 2 A.M. JST.

>>13622648
>doing a watchalong next week.
Will it be a watch-a-long marathon?

>>13622707
>kino at late hours
oh no, another cope becomes invalid

>>13622530
In what way is she the new haachama?

* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY *

Here it goes
>167,367: Laplus (Hololive)
>54,992: Laplus (Hololive)
>33,167: Fubuki (Hololive)
>26,388: Mahiro (Nijisanji)
>23,467: Miko (Hololive)
>23,061: Pekora (Hololive)
>22,734: Kanata (Hololive)
>20,498: Subaru (Hololive)
>20,190: Rushia (Hololive)
>16,198: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>16,119: Gura (Hololive)
>14,501: Kakeru Yumeoi (Nijisanji)
>14,424: Hakase Fuyuki (Nijisanji)
>10,543: Lamy (Hololive)
>10,117: Miko (Hololive)

>>13622707
That's way more impressive then the debut imo

>>13622648
>talk after debut
thats literally what gen5 did, retarded newfag

>>13622550
Hololyzer but they are excluded from rankings because no other site does the same for Nijisanji or other groups

>>13622820
lol fbk is at 15k and still rising

>>13622843
Makes me wonder if the rest of the gen will be going for 30monutes, or it's just this phenomenonly lazy demon loli that wanted to do a goddamn 10 minute debut until her manager told her she was being TOO lazy.

>>13622648
>Ethyria playbook
kek, except the part they drop to 3 digits, I suppose

>>13622530
No , its just "Yes my dark" Her greeting but initials YMD

>>13622902
>>13622820
35k* not 15k

>>13622820
Subaru gets higher numbers in her zatsudans than silverboy.

>Kiara & Huke
Kiara is the weakest in her gen
>Sana & Pako
Sana is the weakest in her gen
>Lui & Kakage
Proof me wrong please, Lui. Be the female elegant tomboy knight/bodyguard. That gimmick hasn't been used yet. You can get fans from both the males and females.

>>13622814

>>13622911
>too lazy
well, she did have to fill another hour talking alone at midnight by herself. The next debuts will accumulate the genmates who already had their turns, in their midnight talks. So maybe the others could have 1hr debuts

>>13622820
>167k
Su-sugoi...

>Gura is sick
Bros.. the GTA numbers...

>>13623135
Yeah, she seems to be the type who wants to post short 10 minute skits instead of streaming.

>>13623333
2017 called and wanted it's content back. There goes the numbers.

>>13623121
That wing hair never works anon. Idk what the fuck Kakage was thinking

>>13623333
She's going to be the ultimate numbers experiment for Hololive, isn't she?

Huge debut numbers and the earliest debut stream relative to the channel reveals, so we'll see how the sub culling works. Huge CCV numbers even past her debut, at least initially. And then the chance at her being the type to upload a lot of skits and do non-live content for VOD views over CCV.

>>13622698

>>13623537
she play FPS. is death in a 2 months

>>13623537
Watch her have the same problem as gura, have all the buffs possible but her work ethic and choice of content will be shit.

It's just the super hype for jp6
Her real numbers will show after 2-3 weeks

>>13622648
read >>13622843
HoloID2 also did that but as a group

>>13623537
>doesn't even sustain 1/3 of her debut numbers on her first stream
Not a good sign. And if she's really an APEXtard she'll be less popular than Botan.

>>13623333
The average watch time per viewer on streams is 10 to 20 minutes and she can receive superchats during the premiere or a weekly stream

FBK is still grinding. Does she like the shiny challenge that much and have that much free time to do endurance streams? Isnt she shilling anything lately?

>>13623956
FBK is doing fbk things, don't worry

Kuzuha will do a challenge starting december 1 to finish most of RE (I assume most games possible) until the end of the month

https://twitter.com/Vamp_Kuzu/status/1464263154016260100

>>13623784
1/3 after the debut is a good indicator of a strong member inside of a generation.

>>13624055
>RE
SELL SELL SELL AAAAAHHHHHH!
>My KZH STOCKS!

Omega ordering around Kuzuha tsk tsk

>Pekora sponsored by Konami
>no MGR permissions in sight

I saw people referring to La+ as PEBOT lovechild, how true it is?
>Demon
>Play FPS
>Good ccv

>>13622648
If that were the case they'd be a bunch of Brazilian and Korean immigrants who can barely speak Japanese

>>13624218
What until debut buff wears off as well as game choices.

>>13624218
>Good ccv

>>13624218
She would fit right in if she keeps the attitude, but she'll probably mellow out as time goes.

>>13624217
I still remember how she talk about wanting to try FF14 at least once before the radio show: “I am already working on getting permission”
She got the permission right on the next day, make me think she can get permission for absolute everything if she asked herself instead of waiting for Cover

>>13624392
Well that is true (for now). 54k is easily Pekora level

>>13624532
Even the silverboy won't get that number without his buff game and tournament

>>13624492
She still goes through her manager for permissions, are you retarded?

>>13624610
It just feel like it lol, I know manager still have to be the one who do it.
It’s just the whole thing feel like “Hey I want to try out FF14, lemme just get permission real quick” and then she just fucking go get it

>>13624532
It is, but we should wait a while to see how things pan out. JP6 is debuting as holoJP is having its best month ever, so we should probably wait until the dust settles before assigning tiers to any of the JP6 girls.

>>13624688
She was Square Enix's designated shill for literal months before getting in a good position with them. Make no mistake she is still only getting started with Konami.

>>13624688
>I know manager still have to be the one who do it
Guess who the manager works for, in whose name they're getting permissions for, and as a bonus, guess if the other holos also use the same fucking system where they ask their managers to get permissions for stuff they want to play.

>>13623333
>video uploading
Here comes the self sabotaging

>>13624688
They already have blanket SE permissions, but she probably wanted to verify that it also extended to FFXIV since it's an MMO etc, hence the very quick turnaround on it.
"Hey, do our blanket perms cover FFXIV as well?"
"Yea, go for it"
Done. Unlike getting perms for something they don't have an agreement for which could take days to weeks.

>>13624779
Depends on how much she does it. If it's a mix, where it's like, one vid a week then its not too big of an issue. If it's like, 3 times a week and she only streams 3 times a week then yea that's bad.

>>13622820
why are 35k people watching fubuki fish shiny magikarp?
nothing makes sense

>>13624532
Remember edengumi , the drop off will not be as severe, but there will be quite a drop off.

>>13624972
Gacha + JP weekend + Fubuki autism. Simple as. Friend can still do big numbers when she really gets into it but since she doesn't need to be the face of Hololive on an everyday basis anymore, she just does what she wants to nowadays. Today, she realllllllllyyyyy wants that shiny magikarp on stream.

So /#/ are going to be as unbearable as during the nijisanji edengumi debut for the next couple of weeks. Anons will ignore that debut buff exists and inflate how big gen6 actually will be.

>>13624492
One of the big names in Square Enix is a nousagi himself so it's no surprise she gets treated well by them

>>13625047
Rather, holo secured the win for the month, niggers will then be posting random shit to cope

>>13625052
Ok I didn’t know that, guess everything make sense now

>>13624905
yes and no, if the schedule is super consistent then people don't care.
that being said, you can't bake gachikois with that little presence, and that hurts future merch sales

Ollie just keeps collabing with other chuubas, I wonder if this benefits her in the long run
https://twitter.com/kureijiollie/status/1464287141626736646?s=21

>>13625342
She got 900k subs and is almost catching up to moona, yeah it's helping her

>>13625407
but CCV-wise? It doesn't seem like she's getting any incline at all

>>13625476
anon do you have any idea how much an average of 2k viewers is in indonesia?

>Haachama latching like a moray eel on the new generation
Sasusa numberfag!

>>13625265
the one doesn't exclude the other. nijiniggers will cope but holobronies will also shit the thread up with "OMG ONE GAZILLION CCV DURING DEBUT SHE WILL KILL ALL CURRENT CHUBBAS!!!111one" times 5 since all of gen 6 will get above 100k for their debut. and then when they settle for their normal numbers, the same holobronies will not admit they were behaving like nijiniggers during the debut period.

>>13625047
Of course debut buff is a thing. However, you can't really just write off Laplus' debut number either. That's Hololive highest debut number even after Susan YT cut in Dec 2020 - that's an achievement, even if Gen6 numbers will be normalized after a week or two

>>13625548
if nijiniggers have not exhibited retarded behavior, you won't be having counter-shitpost

>>13625524
I think my point still stands. She's collabing with ID, EN, and JP chuubas alike

>>13625585
I'm not writing them off, they are great. It shows that either the over all audience continues to have growth potential or the company unity is continues to grow. But it doesn't reflect anything on future performance and there is little distinction in /#/ about that fact.

>>13625548
Sorry anon, I can't hear you from the completely unbuffed peak of my oshi
>* not actually sorry

>>13625524
>anon do you have any idea how much an average of 2k viewers is in indonesia?
Maybe a lot but she doesn0t have an average of 2k for months now.

>>13625655
Come on, today there has been barely any niji shitposting. It's only been holo vs holo today and holobronies shitting on the niji3d numbers.

俺が手厚いって言ってるのはホロスタが案件もイベントもめちゃくちゃ投げてもらってるからやぞ
にじだったら神田くらいの同接の奴らが貰える量じゃない

>>13625808

>shitting on the niji3d numbers.

I mean, that's a given. How tf you get lower numbers for a 3D than Hajime....

Everytime I say Laplace Demon it just sound like Apex Demon
This is especially true for La+

>>13625273
https://twitter.com/Rucachan
This guy IIRC, he's the series director for Dragon Quest and checking his recent TL he tweeted about the 3rd gen live and retweeted Peko. He basically confirmed that he personally got permissions for her to play DQ Builders after her breakdown in January long before they had full SE permissions.

>>13623012
Again, APEXfags aint loyal. Doesn't matter whether its Niji/Holo/VSPO/etc. A big portion of APEXfags ONLY want APEX.

>>13625886
Hajime's sort of a meme in JP isn't he? Maybe that helped him. Shame because I like Mahiro's military outfit.

Wait woah, Fubuki has 32K on 1 am in the morning

>>13625585
If nothing else, it shows that while the day to day hype of Hololive streaming may have died down slightly as daily life starts to return to normal, the thrill and hype surrounding marquee Hololive events is not just as high as late 2020 but even higher now. Hololive and Vtubing will continue to be a potent subset of online culture for the foreseeable future and not a mere flash in the pan.

>>13625808
>pekora schizo
>gen 5 schizo
>holo EN vs JP schizo
and samefagging. it just so happens there is more counter-shitpost. if you ain't one of the schizos, don't feel offended.

>>13626015
Gimmick pokemon stream yea? Not as many gimmicks as she could have but still.

>>13625960
>latest tweet is his pet rabbit
Sasuga

So historically, does the first to debut get the most views, or does it increase for subsequent debuts?

>>13626015
Anon your timezone reps. It's 3a.m. in Japan right now.

>>13626015
>1 am
3 AM actually

>>13626105
>>13626112
Oh, I'm stupid. Well, even more impressive to me.

>>13625960
>Followed by Hikosan
Certified nousagi say no more

>>13626104
The one with the design that stirs the most buzz gets the most views.

>>13626104
historically the first to debut sets the tone for the rest of the relay. If the first one is good then alot of people will show up for the next. If not then the less. Since La+ blew it out of the park I'd expect Rui to get a decent boost out of it.

>>13625960
Reminds me of someone at Bandai being a KFP leading to Kiara getting those sponsorships.

>>13626104
Iirc Sana was the first to go and she got the worst numbers.

>>13626289
Yeah but she's black and had a worse design.

This debut actually make me curious. Were people expecting Marine to be the designated leader of the team when sankisei was announced?

>>13626104
It has a negligible effect that is washed out by everything else like design, voice, past life, expected content ect.

>>13626488
No. That was Noel

>>13626104
>Fubuki (well technically Mel but she was retconned into gen 1 after Chris got canned)
>Aqua
>Pekora
>Kanata
>Lamy
>Mori
>Sana
>Risu
>Ollie
More often than not they end up being either the or one of the most successful of the group, it's more of a mixed bag recently though

>>13626524
Hm not very fall off. Noel does have the MC aura

>>13626739
Her nickname is literally danchou

>>13626779
Yeah but Marine is like THE captain and her outfit kind of show that

>>13626820
her character looks like a brat though

>>13624779
I think the question is whether she will be the next Haachama, or the next Fubuki. If she streams frequently on top of posting short vids, it'd be great (will take a lot of effort, though). However, if she rarely streams and rely mainly on posting short clips, I'd expect her numbers to drop sharply within a week or two, cunny buff or not

>>13626667
Pekora wasn't the most successful of her group until 2020. Kanata only after Coco graduated. Lamy is most successful in terms of supacha but Botan wins in subs/views. Risu's debut was really good but what we got after was not (her JP was much better in the debut too).

>>13626820
She also had the "pirate cosplayer who really wants to be a captain one day but hasn't actually stepped foot on a ship" thing from debut, so she was never presented as leader material.

Is the Pokemon buff over for EN? They've been getting lower and lower numbers with it.

>>13626488
Not at all, if anything Marine had the second to worst start in 3rd Gen (not saying much given how far behind Flare has always been). For the first 2-3 months Noel was the breakout start of 3rdGen as it took Marine, Pekora and Rushia a bit of time to find their niche and settle into a more natural personality.

At her lowest moment in mid-October, two months after her debut, Marine posted for the last time on her roommate twitter a slightly menhera rant about her situation. It was soon after this that she went on full lockdown with regards to her past aside from what had already escaped out into the ether.

>>13623135
>Bring Vtuber to back to it's origin
Is..is she the choosen one? The Old Guard Savior?

>>13627073
Black Friday

>>13625407
>Ollie vs Moona
I know they get pretty bad viewership for 900K chuubas but I just can’t help but feel excited about their sub race

>>13623135
If she can balance the two of them I think it could work. Just look at Pmaru, the format still works and she gets 1m per video but she’s not exclusively a video only YouTuber like a lot of people from the old era.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0HhUgGR2Cs

so I'm not expecting the same numbers as La+ cause no cunny but will she break 100k too?

>>13627388
Yes, if only because La+ managed to nail her debut. The hype train keeps going as long as the debuts are good.

>>13627388
Yes but expectations are very high for the rest of the members now.

>>13624972
Shiny hunting is very popular for Pokémon streamers

Watame just passed $10k for a supposedly random supa reading stream and I can't tell you why without breaking the board rules...

>>13623135
So how much before she realize Streaming is more easy than make videos, unless is just her messing with the live 2D.
Kiara once said she also planned just to mostly upload videos than streaming, but then she realized post production is really stressful for her and streaming is more easy.
And assuming Yamada being lazy is not a gimmick, either will give up on the idea...or pull an Ayame.

>>13627675
*how long

>>13627645
Positive or negative reason (that should be uh, not rule breaking)

>>13624205
>Kuzuha gets no gold for November
>Nijisanji slave masters are forcing him to stream every single day now as punishment
Haha

>>13627388
Breaking 100k is easy but I don't think she can beat La+

>>13627733
Positive, let's just say the exact same thing happened on this date last year

>>13627645
>>13627733
Not sure if it would be mentioned in the SCs left but this is the log of them from said stream.

https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/realtime/superchat/SKgzlJGjUa0.html

>>13627797
Oh. So watamates are doxmates...
Well, it is what it is, sheep does her SC reps, she gets her money. Simple as.

>>13627645
She's just having her second birthday.

>>13627797
Is she crying?

>>13627853
Every hardcore fan is a doxxfag.
Hell, even Luna has an active fanbox where she has diary posts.

>>13627909
Okay fair enough, I guess if you're the type to SC heavily and/or a long time member eventually the info gets around.

>>13627645
jesus watamates , fucking chill..

>>13627645
just tell us

>>13627853
Don't think he did this time but last year even Keffiy (her rigger) left a blank aka supa just as it turned midnight lmao

>>13628038
just read the replies...

Oi. Japs, wtf. 30k STILL watching Fubuki, at nearly 4AM. Okay, some of those probably are EOP by now, but STILL WTF.

>>13625544
She always does this.
It makes the newfolk feel welcome and involved really fast.
Also, she takes some of their memes for herself.

>>13628335
It's the weekend tomorrow, most people don't need to work so they are staying up to watch a cute foxgirl roll the pokemon gacha

>>13628335
The chat is still 100% JP. This is insane. Goes to show how fucking strong friend is.

>>13628430
This is..true.
>>13628500
Well, sub mode on. so at this point, if you're EOP and subbed to friend, you either stick to reading translations or responding when she talks in english instead of shitting up chat with nonsense EN for no reason.

>>13627125
Such a quality post
Please tell me more about her early days

>>13628623
Yeah that is a fair point.

I hate Gura's schizo fucking schedule where she doesn't stream on weekends. That's when most people can watch. I'm left with a free weekend what am I supposed to do with this

>>13629136
Watch other holos or better yet, their numbers.

>>37459958
Pekora didn't even comment on HoloX during her stream today despite her going live immediately after Laplus' debut.
She must be fucking seething looking at the absolutely unprecedented start Laplus had.

>>13627909
If you are going to spend $100+ on someone through the internet, then you would be prone to get to know said person in a more intimate manner.

>>13629231
>Pekora about to be mogged by another fucking cunny
Yeah I'd be seething too. She must be cursing those A cups she was saddled with, she could have been the bunny cunny.

>>13629136
Friday night her zone is usually a buff, then comes weekend when it's dead. She had 8 streams in 9 days, so i'm good with a break

>>13629136
She usually streams on weekends, and has Monday as an off-day. She was sick during her last stream, and it's been getting worse.
Gura's Fort stat is very low.
Her friends are streaming. You could check them out.

>>13629511
>8 streams
+1 member stream

Welp hope you guys are ready for another 6 months of lockdown buff after the latest variant dropped

>>13629702
Ha I actually work in in a covid related field so that means job security for another six months.

>>13629136
Try watching her friends, plenty of streams going on this weekend.

>>13629702
I wasn't going to do field work the first 6 months of 2022 so this doesn't suprise me.

>>13629231
>>13629458
I wonder if the thing about her dreaming of being the biggest streamer was true. She doesn’t even seem to try

Still a close race but looking like Mori's gonna join the 1m follower club first

>>13629845
Wrong picrel

>>13625886
i mean, it's known that a lot of niji's power in events comes from tourists, and there might have been something else going on sucking up the tourists...

>>13629830
By subs
>Pokimane
>Gura
>Valkyrae
>Pekora/Mori
By CCV
Pekora mogs everyone, I don't know what other validation she needs. She can't compete with the spam amouranth is doing

>>13630004
I really don’t want to know what female twitch streamer are spamming

>>13630059
Restreams of her old streams, basically.

>>13629702
Wew, I was actually close to finally return to the office

>>13629702
It will never end.

>>13630085
No wonder it’s so easy to spam

Bros... please watch DMC...

>>13630433
Actually unironically how did she do it? Do people just see evil loli and click?

>>13630433
Half the length of all the others too

>>13630460
the power of cunny, and hololive

>>13630433
Can she reach 4.6 M in 14 months?

>>13630460
Cunny is a draw, brother.

>>13629231
>Pekora didn't even comment on HoloX during her stream today despite her going live immediately after Laplus' debut.
Subaru also didn't mention them either but this thread love to spread rrats about pekora for no fucking reason

>>13630460
1. first new holojp gen in what, 15 months.
2. Good announcement video
3. Cunny

>>13630589
nah, the reason is pretty clear, it's all about baiting nousagi.

>>13630460
Same buff Nijisanji had with edengumi.
No debut in a long ass time.

>>13629702
>literally named the nu variant
You can't make this shit up

Laplus has 290k subs and it hasn't been even one day, why is the council such a huge failure?

>>13630367
Not until I finish all the other JP vods, DMC will always be low-priority

>>13630507
>>13630529
I think I grow out of cunny years ago, such a fucking weird thing to like now that I look back

>>13630883
How do you even "grow" out of cunny?

>>13630883
It's normal for men

I can't wait for council fags to kill themselves when Laplus surpasses all of Council in one week.

>>13631038
>shark fin
Gura the cunny queen.

>>13631032
Ironically because I love it too much, I look up and study everything about it, every single cunny I can find
Then I hit the bottom, there are nothing more to see, I realize I have seen everything and that’s all there is to cunny. Then I just got bored of it

>>13631079
I hope you support La+ with membership and superchat!

>>13631189
I don't supa, but I will member her as soon as it opens.

lets hope they get monetization quick, despite the amazing debut, the channel gets diddly squat

>>13631320
My bet is one week after the last debut

>>13631320
They get a small salary to tide them over, and these days they get monetized pretty quickly, almost always within two weeks for big channels if they want it

>>13630460
Straight up, because Council got vod views cut too.
Both Sana and Bae passed 1 million views 3 times already, then got dropped to sub 800k.
Kronii passed 1 million 5 times on the first day.

Since then tho, they haven't gotten that many new views on these old videos
>>13630433
For comparisons, little over 1 month ago these were the views on their debut:
IRyS 1,315,717
Ceres Fauna 1,093,366
Tsukumo Sana 886,362
Ouro Kronii 1,170,965
Nanashi Mumei 1,050,191
Hakos Baelz 946,197
File is telling me this was on Oct 12th, but that seems a bit too long.

>>13627823
What the fuck is this

What the hell happened here.

>>13632458
3rd gen concert free chat

Next Niji 3D debut.
I feel bad for Eli, she's cute and drenched in frills, but numbers say she'd be close to today's Mahiro.
At least recently, since they were both around 450 in Oct. Depending on the month Eli can be a +1k vtuber.
Expecting around 30k for the 3D still

>>13632513
She should hope Mori won't reveal her outfit that day.

>>13632645
Kiara just said outfit debuts are "beginning of December" sooooo could be

>>13632645
With nijisanji's luck it will be Gura.

>>13624055
This is probably the ultimate test of Kuzuha's draw power.
>Not APEX
>Novelty factor will lessen the more he streams
>Holiday Season
>Playing, at best, a neutral game (not a buff nor debuff)
If he can maintain at least 22K throughout then I think that all doubt of him being a heavenly king gets thrown out. On the otherhand, if he cant manage that then I guess the 4th crown is there for someone else to take.

Reminder that some time in 2022, probably during the summer peak, this cunny demon will get her 3D debut and mog everyone

>>13624149
He got over 50k for Village, I'm sure this'll do fine

>>13633345
that was when the game just came out.

What will Kuzuha do now that APEX is dead and doesn't bring people any viewers anymore? I don't think switching to Splatoon can work in the long run and Valorant is shit as well.

In what year will gen 3 be considered Hololive veterans?

>>13633660
Aren't they already Hololive Veterans? Even Lamy was inspired to join Gen 5 because she was a big fangirl of Marine.

>>13633657
>I don't think switching to Splatoon can work in the long run
When 3 comes out it will probably be the hottest game around for a long time, he just needs something to keep him afloat until then

>>13633657
He just needs to wait for the next shit game

>>13630589
Subaru tweetchatted with the birb atleast

Susan you piece of shit, HoloX must have their subscribers and views culled by at least 80% just like you did with HoloCouncil

>>13634167
wait another 5-6hrs
culling happens at night

>>13633657
Kuzuha don't care about numbers like you guys so he's going to play apex until the game is dead.

>>13634311
wait how did apex die anyway?

>>13633156
>This is probably the ultimate test of Kuzuha's draw power.
>Not APE-
SELL! SELL! SELL!

>>13634311
No, he's desperate >>13624055

Wtf

>>13634311
But he's not playing APEX anymore.

>>13634402
that doesn't seem desperate to me.

Now that Kuzuha got exposed and dethroned who do we call the new King?
I vote for Astel, he can sing, dance abs play games other than APEX!

>>13634438
what?
seems to be going the same way as er other drawing streams.

>>13634604
He can't be the overall king with his shit numbers, sadly. He is the king of holostars though, for all that it's worth.

>>13634604
As a Kuzuha fan since his indies days I have to agree, his days as the top holomem are counted and I also feel Astel would be a good fit!

>>13634604
And gets an amazing 500 viewers on his non-APEX games.

Holomyth costume next month hopefully

Lui premier scheduled after her debut got spoiled by YT-kun. If you want to see what is just check the description

https://youtu.be/dkCPkLmU7l4

>>13634787
YouTube glitched, he had some 20k before that (maybe)

>>13634604
Nux is the new King for taking down Vshojo.

>>13634919
>kanaria
meh

>>13633047
Mori will be even more interesting because of the similar time slot.

>>13626104
It's always design.
>Coco
>Botan
>Mori (a fluke here, since Gura is more popular)
>Ollie

>>13635249
Coco? I always thought that her design was shit but her personality and content carried her hard

>>13635249
Towa was the one with the design but her voice and then yabee incident filtered the viewers to true kenzoku.
Coco was behind but went ahead with the content.

>>13632513
First HoloX full gen collab will be that day

>>13635298
Big booba dragon with mouth that open most of the time? Simply eye catching and.. Orange

>>13625544
Haachama is everything but a numberfag, at least as of late.
She genuinely just feels like a kid who's excited to have newbies around to haze and place with.
But ends up being too shy to actually collab, just like with EN2
She always does this because she's like the 4th or 5th oldest member by debut dates sobits a nice way to welcome them and make em feel at home

Any bets on when Laplus will surpass Kronii sub wise?

>>13635644
2 months

>>13634604
Now that Kuzuha got exposed and dethroned we turn Mel into a guy

Reminder that sharkniggers can no longer use the VOD argument after Gura's numerous declines. The difference between Kuzuha and Pekora in views is not very significant anymore. She gets the occasional odd one out video which gets recommended en-masse by the algorithm and nothing more.

how many subs did gura achieve on her first day of debut again? because laplus is about to break 300k already

>>13635773
>vod views
>doesnt check their time lengths
retard.

>>13625782
ID minecraft server building debuff? Do y'all think it can pay off? Maybe when the C&C part 2 update goes live?

>>13635718
I want to ravage Mel-kun's butthole

>>13635773
The chart you post seems to show Gura well ahead of Kuzuha, something that wasn’t true in parts of august. Is that your point?

>>13635855
it will only pay off when they can connect the id server with jp & en

>>13635855
They should've joined the EN JP portal hype instead of isolating themselves on their ID server, maybe just start the ID server around ID 3 debut

>Tutorial!? I just pressed SKIP SKIP SKIP
On this pace she’ll catch up with RatGirl before the end of the debuts

>>13635920
Even then, won't you be skeptical as to whether it will pay off or not?

>>13633660
2+ years is a hell of a long time in Vtuber years, they're already veterans.

>>13634365
Bad servers right around the time of a tournament, game was unstable all month of September and then some. One update made it very buggy. Barely anyone could play it.
Turns out it was riding hype fumes. Once a break appeared, a good chunk of viewers just didn't come back to it.
That's why streamers are so scared to take breaks. What if they become APEX?

>>13635814
I think it was around 180k on Gura's first day, but I do know Gura reached 1M in her first 40 days.

>>13636020
Susaaaaan!! No! Don't you dare pass remaining council member! La+ stop!!!
Does she actually pass any edengumi yet?

>>13635855
>ID minecraft server building debuff
Nope. Moona isn’t declining like that.

Ollie bet the farm on thinking outside the box with her novelty streams and stepping outside the box with her collabs and it worked well
>bug it removed her passive buff that comes from being inside the HoloBox
Now whenever she’s doing regular streams she can only count on her barebones audience: no roaming Holo box pushers, no tourists.

>>13636181

>Does she actually pass any edengumi yet?

Uh, she did since hours ago. Most subbed edengumi is Lain with 248k

>>13634438
Ironically, most of the viewerbase of HoloEN's "artist" don't usually show up for her drawing streams, and favor her gaming streams.
However, taking one look at her chat and it's essentially a sea of Purple, so her members clearly enjoy it like me, and this one is especially comfy.

>>13635814
>because laplus is about to break 300k already
I wonder how council feels when lolicunny is mogging them so fucking hard.

Omega is probably on suicide alert right now.

>>13635851
Same duration and similar CCV. There are numerous other examples. It's been proven that Gura entirely relies on her videos being shilled by the algorithm to get more views than usual. Those GTA and Pokemon ones stick out like a sore thumb.

>>13636286
I am sure they all feel great that Hololive is doing great numbers.

4 more debuts. Myth costume reveals + NY stream next month.

2021

January:1
May:6
June:1
July:5
October: 1
November: 1

total: 15

21/01/31 111,367 Nene Costume reveal
21/05/02 109,792 Ayame Costume reveal
21/05/03 135,527 Mori Costume reveal
21/05/07 194,140 Gura Costume reveal
21/05/08 101,843 Amelia Costume reveal
21/05/09 100,436 Aqua 2nd 3DLive
21/05/27 126,480 Subaru Costume reveal
21/06/23 107,020 Coco costume reveal
21/07/01 491,342 Coco Graduation stream
21/07/03 139,393 Marine 1M gen3 3DLive
21/07/18 108,004 Rushia 2nd anniversary
21/07/29 136,068 Marine 2nd costume reveal
21/07/30 124,596 Marine 3DLive birthday stream
21/10/04 101,868 Noel 2nd costume reveal
21/11/26 167,584 Laplus Hololive debut

2021

January:1
June:2
July:2
August:5

total: 10

21/01/10 107,260 Nijisanji NY Mahjong 2021 final
21/06/04 143,270 Fuwa 3D debut
21/06/30 184,653 Lulu Graduation stream
21/07/02 117,475 Ibrahim 3D debut
21/07/17 138,024 Nijisanji Baseball 2021 draft
21/08/06 144,515 Kuzuha VCC apex tournament
21/08/13 147,639 Nijisanji Baseball 2021 Game A
21/08/14 170,896 Nijisanji Baseball 2021 Game B
21/08/15 205,448 Nijisanji Baseball 2021 finals
21/08/25 108,103 Nijisanji Baseball 2021 exhibition

>>13636389
Maybe in your delusional mind where the girls don't compare themselves. Kiara sure as fuck wasn't feeling great that Gura was doing so much better than her.

If Myth are to have any hope at getting more or even the same amount of views on their outfit debuts they need to use the same time slots as last time. If say, Gura were to use her main NA time slot I'm sure the viewership would be utter shit. It's the JOPs turning up in droves to see Same-chan/Mori's outfit last time that gave them beeg numbers, since outfit reveals are events and JOPs love watching events live/aren't counted as spam viewers.

>>13636460
Gura's main NA time slot is 10 am JST in winter.
If it's a 1 hr stream, JP can catch Gura's peak after 10:30.

>>13636286
If EN2 has any bitter feelings about numbers, Susan killing their predebut subs probably aggroed all of it, none left to care about apples to oranges JP success.

>>13636137
Just become Gura lol

>>13636398
God, fashion week was good.
The Ayame and Subaru perfect storm push for new costume debuts were also awesome.
Props to Marine carrying july Ofc and for Niji actually putting up a fight that summer.

These amount of clips and fan arts from just single member.. And there's still 4 of them left!
Niji gonna be buried until Christmas and New Year isn't it?

>>13636797
Gen 6 is free of their Collab ban on new years day. January will be full of hololive wins.

>>13636779
And Subaru was able to pull out even higher number with "transformation" after the first peak.

>>13635427
Kiar...

Did Laplus just drop 10k subs?

>>13636971
All of Holo just dropped subs.

>>13636971
287k atm

>>13637046
Then she lost 11 or 12k subs, fucking Susan.

>>13637027
I mean HoloX

>>13636971
seriously someone kill the yt pajeets already

>>13636971

>>13637115
kek she lost 15k already I hope she doens't lose a ridiculous amount like council

>>13637071
285k. Susan is gunning down subs

>>13636908
This is probably the best timed debut in Holo history. They pretty much get a free ride through December to get to join the fray for the New Year's collabs and relays. This will pretty much stave off the winter lull if things go right.

>>13637154

watch em live kek
https://livecounts.io/youtube-live-subscriber-counter/UCENwRMx5Yh42zWpzURebzTw
https://livecounts.io/youtube-live-subscriber-counter/UCs9_O1tRPMQTHQ-N_L6FU2g
https://livecounts.io/youtube-live-subscriber-counter/UC6eWCld0KwmyHFbAqK3V-Rw
https://livecounts.io/youtube-live-subscriber-counter/UCIBY1ollUsauvVi4hW4cumw
https://livecounts.io/youtube-live-subscriber-counter/UC_vMYWcDjmfdpH6r4TTn1MQ

S-SUSAN??

>>13637268
this is more exciting then watching the debut

Guess Luis is not going to make it to 300k before debut.

>279k
SUSAN FUCK YOU.

>>13637268

How I suppose to numberfag with such a shit site?

There’s a lot less Pekora bait thread than I expected today. There’s only like 3 thread directly bringing up Pekora against La+
Thought people would be more excited about my oshi Pekora getting mogged

Do you think La+ will pass up Gura in subs by the end of next year?

holy shit, Sana has been putting in the work!

>>13637464
Losing to debut stream is not worth baiting.

>>13637491
The secret is autism.

>>13637464
There were more threads talking about the haachama rap than about pekora lol

>>13637484
Impossible, she might surpass Kronii if Susan doesn't fuck her too hard.

>>13637491
vod views are nyanners tier

>>13636438
Kiara's the only one that's clearly a numberfag and insecure in general. Council in general seem to not care about numbers that much.

>>13634311
Kek, you better wish the management thinking the same, he's carrying Niji hard right now. If Apex popularity is really dead and he still insists to play it, i'm pretty sure management will force him to play another game. Heck i believe he's the biggest source of Niji profit

WTF am I watching, crypto?

>>13637556
Lol this is the perfect time to make Pekora bait thread though
No one talking about Pekora is nothing new to me

>>13634311
He might not but management will.

>>13637589
calli has started to, she has mentioned wanting to get to 2mil asap.

has the cunny's subs gotten purged yet or shotgun debut is the correct move to not get purged?

>>13637374
I got unsubbed to Iroha. Had to sub again.

>>13637743
If she only gets hit by once or twice, then it's a correct move.

>>13637743
>has the cunny's subs gotten purged yet
Yes, everyone in holoX just lost about 20k subs

>>13637814
even when after coucnil debuted they were still getting hit
the real test comes at night and the enxt days
Councilalso had 20k removed first but the 2nd or third day they lost like 50k-70k

>>13636351
kys

>>13637689
Calli doesn't want the numbers for herself though, she just wants to make Pekora and her autistic nousagi army seethe.

>>13637865
>50k-70k
watched that happen to baelz was like eh ok, but then sana.. At one point she even below 100k

>>13634604
>>13635718
stop posting gay shit, seriously i come here for cute girls not gay shit

>>13637639
wtf somebody rape that jewish whore

>>13637589
Even Fauna numberfag dude, she was super happy when she hit 350k subs. All girls are numberfags, not to the same extent of course but it's literally their job and livelihood.

>>13637893
it is more so she can turn around and look kiara in the eye and say: "damn, not even 1.5 million kiara. how worthless can you be?"

>>13637943
This is the number thread retarded, we care about numbers. If the number came from a vagina or a penis doesn't matter.

>>13637639
New subs offsetting further losses.

>>13636268
>Most subbed edengumi is Lain with 248k
Highest subs, lowest CCV. How? There shouldn't be enough time for legacy subs yet.

I dont even understand this system YouTube has, they just straight up removel the subs, even a dogshit website like Twitch reviews followers and add then back after confirming they aren't bots

>>13638112
For now

>>13638147
people dont unsub even though they arent watching, simple as that.

>>13638147
people sub to cute girl avatar but don't necesarily watch her, many such cases

Laplus looking for game suggestions. Minecraft and Mario Kart are the ones I see the most.

https://twitter.com/LaplusDarknesss/status/1464368978571059201

>>13638147
Same reason Gura has twice Pekora's subs but almost half her average peak.

>>13638170
Youtube has had such a bad time with bots that they go overboard with anti-botting.

>>13638147
Subscribing is free, anon. You lost nothing if forgetting someone and not unsubscribe

>>13638246
Someone tell her to play Mario Maker, fuck!

>>13636971
>>13637115
oh no no no it's happening again

>>13638367

sanners............

>>13636020
will chumbuds finally accept that loli = cheating?

The last member to debut will get (sub) raped to nothingness

>>13638311
>>13638170
youtube's antibot system is run by bots.

cool vtubers you have right there yagoo
would be a shame if they were to get an axing

>>13638405
the cunny cheat only works for the debut, but if the cunny is boring it will still fail

La+ in Ina's chat, Ina 10K

>>13635773
Pretty sure that's still getting pumped by the Vampire cover. Glacing at their last vids Kuzuha has around half of Gura's views.

I don't know if what I do makes my sub stick, but I always leave a 5-10 minute gap between subbing to each member and I've never gotten mine removed.

>>13639014
Sub right before each debut?

>>13639014
It's all down to whoever Susan hates the most, I got unsubbed from Sana at least 4, but only once for the other ones.

>>13638845
Unity

>>13639014
Honestly it's pretty random from what I've seen, I've personally never gotten unsubbed and I subbed to both Council and holoX immediately with no gap inbetween

>>13638147
subscribing is free, giving a view is a lot of hours. That's why everyone has dead subs, even Pekora, because it's not possible for all of your subs to watch you, only a part of your subs.

Lui added everyone's channel to hers. Will that stop the sub genocide?

>>13639327
why would it

Is la+ the only one who got cuts so far?

>>13639369
unity is a powerful thing

>>13639369
I don't know how youtube works.

>>13639416
No. Everyone on Gen 6 got hit but she is standing better because of the after debut subscribers buff.

>>13639416
No, all of them got hit.

>>13637268
It's like i'm on /biz/.

This isn't even a proper axing, it's a slow descent.

>>13627645
NePoLaBo - Blessing [cover]
idk how to use link shortener

>>13639780
This site doesn't work for subscribers

>>13638405
Didn't work for Millie and Petra.

>>13638367
But not at the same level

>>13639972
...anon?

>>13640096
Millie and Petra had the most views and subs of the wave in the beginning, they just lost their lead because both are boring.

>>13640162
Exactly, Gura never lost her lead. In fact, Calli had the lead until Gura overtook her.

>hololive x AnimeNYC
>https://gamebiz.jp/news/337914
Article is up

>The "hololive English - Council - Anime NYC Special Panel", the first panel after the start of Anime NYC, was so popular that a long line of people formed a few hours before the event, filling the 2300 seat main hall. It was so popular that people lined up hours in advance.

>The event, which started 30 minutes late in a packed venue with NTV's broadcast coverage, still had an impassable line outside the panel room even after it started, and (as reported in the second article) even after three hours of waiting, you couldn't even get into the Javits Center venue itself, let alone the panel room! Fans were asking, "How am I supposed to watch hololive?" "Please send me pictures of what's going on! and "Send me what's going on inside!" were some of the screaming posts on Twitter.

>>13640892
>3 hours
geez

>>13640892
Yeah, but haven't you heard?
According to this thread, Council is a failure and should graduate because they don't get JP numbers.

>>13640998
stop listening to the resident schizo

>>13637484
No one can predict that. Same way no one could predict Gura to blow up that big

>>13638112
Waaait, is debuting right before America woke up helping with people resubbing if Susan purges them? pretty big brain huh?

>>13640998
Cope, Laplus got more than twice of what any council got on their first day. She already fucking surpassed Sana for fucks sakes.

>>13640892
hololive I kneel

>>13641174
HoloX cunny
HoloCouncil no cunny
Simple as.

>>13640892
Passive positive publicity buff.

https://youtu.be/4qorwUNRN1I?t=136
>Kiara knows the Hololive debut peak record

>>13641174
>Someone in the same company does good so everyone else is a failure
Grow the fuck up kid and learn how the real world works.

>>13641066
I predicted it the moment I saw her design

>>13641640
nah, chat was spamming it

Random numbers thing.

Gwelu's shorts game is fucking strong.
went from 50k daily average at the start of the month to 700k for the last 8 days.

A lot of Nijis have been spamming random, usually boring, shorts for most of the year, but Gwelu knows what people like to re-watch.
Akane caught a tail end subscriber buff from her singing collabs too.

>>13641716
Being surpassed by a newbie on their very first day is a failure yes.

>>13641864
Gwely doing well makes me happy, I don't why, I don't even watch him.

>>13641864
>513k in 5 days
>1 mil in 6 days
>1.2 mil in 9 days
That's extremely strong in any context jfc.

>>13641935
watch this then
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-qTSjsg9KI

probably one of the most viewed recent Nijisanji translations i take it?
Don't know Niji clip numbers.

>>13641864
only thing I know about gwelu is that he tricked mea into revealing that he was married and then did a shitpost apology stream where he fake cried about deceiving his fans.
that alone makes him based in my book.

>>13641864
Shorts don't generate ad revenue, they are only useful to get more subscribers

>>13641716
In the real world if my boss hired a new guy and he did more on his very first day than I did in the last 3 months put together you can bet that my boss would fire my ass.

>>13642062
You are to young to be here

>>13642062
Get a good job, anon.

>>13642042
They do if you watch them as regular videos, instead of through the "Shorts" program.

Well, they can in theory, but most of the time advertisers don't want their ads playing on videos this short, so the Ad distribution algorithm doesn't find any ads to play. I've only seen ads on shorts 5-10% of the time.

but yes, it's been really good for subscriber growth.

>>13642109
*too

>>13642062
I suppose your boss only needs one employee then.

>>13642062
So everyone in HoloJP should've been fired when Gura got to 1 mil subs in a month?
You're a fucking retard, kiddo.

>>13642062
No, that's not how the real world works at all anon.

>>13640892
>only 2300
lol i don't know whether it's management's fault or they're really just not popular over there

>>13642154
I noticed more holos putting shorts on their channel as well.
Then there's haachama trying to get her sub account to 1m with shorts.

>>13642062
either never worked, underage, or burger flipper

>>13642194
Is this supposed to be bait?
You can easily read the main hall had 2300 seats and they were filled with a lot of people still standing outside. Overloaded capacity... for a fucking anime convention panel.

>>13642178
To be fair they actually could and Myth would still be able to carry the company to success.

>>13642006
That's so adorable.

>>13642062
what manga are you reading anon, can you give me recommendations?

>>13642202
Yeah, Holos area really late to the #shorts trend. but they do have a lot of popular and entertaining shorts candidates. Especially Chammers, Marine and Kanata.
If they're smart, they can just add the hashtag to older videos that already performed well and maybe they get picked up by the algorithm.

>>13642330
Except
>firing money makers, including golden gen gen 3
>firing your roots
>asking to get anti-ed to death
What a pointless argument.

duck starting

>>13642244
I work on a bank actually, I'm the lowest of the low, just above the janitors but still. I would absolutely be fired if someone came along and did more in a day than what I did in the last 90, I mean I already get shat on if I do 30% less than someone else in my department.

>>13642416
As long as they do it in a way that doesn't anger the EN fans it's fine, EN makes up the majority of the fanbase anyway. A minority seething won't make a difference.

>>13642062
so everyone in nijisanji graduates except kuzuha

>>13642178
That's not what I said retarded.

Don't bite please.

>>13642495
True, nijisanji needs to fire 90% of its jp members

>>13642459
Chubbas work differently entirely. Of course your bank would take the higher efficiency worker over the lower one, whereas Cover barely have to pay anything to sustain their chubbas, and being the other way around instead: Cover gains revenue by keeping them, even if they perform like crap compared to the others.
>>13642495
>Breaking News: Cover fires all of Holopro except for EN
>minority seething
You're retarded. They still have no reason to fire anyone at all.
>>13642545
I can't help it, demon cunny got me riled up

>>13642591
And they would be unironically more successful than they are now, thanks for proving my point

>>13641716
>works in a company that accepts deadweight
good for you anon