/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

is there a list of individual participants?

>>13621500
>crab game
ogey

>>13621500
The two first I know, no idea about the rest.

>>13621624
Not yet AFAIK. So far Nina Kosaka (Niji EN) and Luna Rurine (WACTOR) have confirmed their participation.

>>13621500
>vshojo

>>13621500
these mass collabs always kind of suck to be honest

Why does the rest of the vtuber community pretend that Hololive doesn't exist? It's starting to get a little scummy.

>>13621915
other way around, hololive pretends the rest of the vtuber community doesnt exist

>>13621915
It's the other way around.

>>13621915
is that why they always beg to collab with Hololive?

>falling for obvious bait

>>13621762
It's going to be bad if you want to watch any particular person, especially because of the proximity chat. They seem to use these collabs as a networking exercise that doubles as a stream.

>>13621500
>WACTOR
They speak English? I never bothered even reading their general because I assumed they all spoke Spanish.

>>13621943
>>13621947
Not all Holo are like Rushia and Pekora. RBC or Botan would probably take part in this if they asked.

>>13621943
I think you mean management is overprotective.

>>13622038
>Hasn't read about the kiara/pomu or selen/ollie collab blocks
Anon, please lurk for another year before posting again

>>13622038
chances are they did get asked, RBC Towa and Ollie at least

>>13622028
Luna speaks good English and would fit better in an English agency than some I've seen

>>13621915
because most of them would rather suck chink dick

>>13622113
Who cares about 2 person collabs? It's leaving them out of these group games that's weird.

>>13622249
It's a clearance issue with management. The other companies want them there and you can be sure some of the girls want to take part. I get it but sometimes I feel like Cover get a little too controlling with this shit. Just let them play some games if they want to ffs.

>>13621915
It's the opposite, hololive is gatekeeping the rest of the EN scene from it's talents, and honestly, with the vshojo shitshow going on, they made the right call

>vshojo
didn't click

>>13622405
what does Cover stand to gain from doing that?
some other guys said it best
>>13471555
>>13618861

>>13621915
They don't want to anger their chink fanbase so they avoid Hololive like plague.

>>13621695
It's also on Selen's schedule

>>13621695
Pomu confirmed too right?

>>13621943
>>13621947
>>13622626
https://youtu.be/88APiRAcQcc?t=2187

Yeah, Hololive never collab outside their company...

>>13622657
If we've gone so far into this copro bullshit that we're putting it before the members having fun then we've gone too far. When did these groups start seeing one another in a hostile manner like this?

>>13622858
since it got lucrative

>>13622405
>>13622249
Let me ask you this first, have you ever seen a hololive crab game? They never played it before so this is a game permission problem first and foremost

>>13622858
>These groups
It's only one group and they're not even subtle about it.

>>13621500
It will be a shitshow. Voicechat of that game is cancer in public lobbies, but even only with them it will be full of nonstop talking bs. Vshojo vr chat streams are just noise

>>13622858
They never. And they also never in friend term. If one unknown (to the girls) chuuba ask for collab, the girl either research them or ask their manager to see through them. You dont just collab with stranger just cause they are chuubas as you are. Plus, a group is a group for a reason. Why risk everyone's sake just for you to have a little fun you can have by other means

>>13621915
can't play genshin if lovely-dovey with holo

>>13622838
Its still weird how Cover decides who they do any dont collab with. It's definitely smart from a business sense at least, but it's still weird how management is sometimes overprotective to a fault.
It just seems kinda detrimental when the JPs and IDs have a huge collab pool, but the EN side is just kinda locked away, and not everyone is proficient at Japanese.

>>13622858
Hololive is introducing soulless behavior into the industry but their loyal fans will try to paint that in a positive light.

>>13622405
>Let them play game
So they should let Kiara playing the game with people she only interact for not so long ago in twitter, risking the dominace that their WHOLE group set just for a little fun?

>>13623117
>Kiara x Nyanners
>Mori x Mousey
>Mori x Milky
>Ina x Pikamee
>Mori x trash taste (x2)
>Mori x Boogeyox (i'll count boths songs as one event)
>Mori. Kiara x Faye Mata & Giggurk shadowverse collab
>Kiara Dokomi collab

stop begging for more

>>13622858
The girls don't even know what's good for them. It's the same reason why you don't just let your kids play with random kids out there without checking if they would be good influences. Talents have no problem having fun with each other or do small-sized collab (i.e: with VShojo and indies), so there isn't any need to let one or two of them to join these massive collab which, going by previous hyped (on this board) EN collabs, either isn't beneficial or outright a yab mine.
>When did these groups start seeing one another in a hostile manner like this?
Maybe when other groups tried to avoid Hololive like plague when they were under fire from Chink antis. Among EN groups, only VShojo members, with the exception of Vei, offered words of consolation.

>>13623117
Have you seen the EN chuuba scene anon? Yeah i'll gatekeep them hard too if im cover mane team

>>13623199
If their hold on EN fans is strong enough one group collab won't do shit to it.

>>13623271
This >>13623262

>>13623266
With the amount of drama that goes on, yeah you're probably right.

>>13623262
The avoiding shit was even internal with EN and Coco lmao

>>13622858
Stop revising history, if companies didn't abandon hololive during the taiwan yab, it'd be easy to gain cooperation. nijisanji, and the rest of trash vshojo deserves to get gatekept

>>13622858
>These groups
It's just Cover, Niji JP collabs with 2 views and indies all the fucking time. They've people there with the fame of "saving/raising indies".

>>13623262
>>13623345
I have literally never heard about any other group abandoning Cover during the Taiwan yab. What did you want them to do, say Taiwan is a country too? Are you guys actively trying to make Cover look like the victim that's getting bullied by everyone else?

>>13622838
Hololive is the second wheel in Japan, of course they'd seek collabs with Niji JP. But they won't give up the stranglehold they have over the EN market.

>>13623503
Yes.

>>13623503
You're seeing history being rewritten in real time. They're trying to come up with an excuse for why Hololive acts so overbearing with the rest of the industry but the can't just call it corporate greed.

>>13623503
unironically yes, there's no more heartwarming moment than your fellow countrymen supporting you against invasion filled with soulless zhang

By the way, why is it an issue that hololive won't do outcollabs regularly?

>>13623663
what if the reason is western streamers who aren't vetted by japanese management aren't worth acknowledging?

>>13623702
When they were growing bigger names helped them up buy now that they've made it they lock their doors. That's the basics.

>>13623663
>hololive wants to protect its members from drama, randos and leechkuns
>corpo greed
but this happened>>13623238

so which one is revising history again?

>>13623771
>When they were growing bigger names helped t
When, and who?

>>13623709
Japanese management is shitty, the entire Coco situation proved that.

>>13623776
They were leeches once upon a time, are they ashamed of their own past? Also it's ironic the only other EN groups they collabed with (because of numbers) is the one that has this huge drama happening. Not every group is like Vshoujo.

>>13623503
They're retarded, newfags, EOPs or believe in any dumb shitpost from /jp/

Literally no one gave a fuck about the chink meltdown, Tamaki was still collabing with Rushia and co, Mea invited Aqua to her live, Inui and Suisei were doing radio, NASS was eating together, and etc. Coco was isolated because she never gave a fuck about anything but hololive.

>>13621500
Holy shit I cant believe incel game dev make squid game clone #243 so popular

>>13623831
Nijisanji, that's why you'll sometimes see images of mixed gender collabs between the two groups.

>>13623965
>Ina x Pikamee
>Mori x Milky
>Kiara Dokomi collab
Your mind is in the gutter, you don't know if holoEN not collabing is an issue.

>>13623503
They don't need to go that far. However, keep collabing with Hololive or offering words of supports would have been nice gestures. That's what VShojo members did - and surprise, surprise, HoloEN has no problem whatsoever collabing with VShojo when both sides schedules allow it even though VShojo is the biggest challenger to HoloEN's reign in the West. On the other hand, Kuzuha was tweeting about Coco when she was graduating and Niji management forced him to remove it (presumably, since the tweet disappeared afterwards)...

>>13621743
People are definitely going to stop watching them, amirite?

>>13624139
>>13623974

>>13623851
japanese management was right about coco.

>>13624177
None of them is from EN groups, though? What's your point? Literally everyone who collabed with Holo back then, can collab with them nowadays.

>>13623642
>>13623674
Cover didn't even stand up for its talents when they made Coco and Haachama apologize before suspending them, what makes you think any other company should do it for them? Holos were explicitly forbidden from talking about it on stream, the closest we got to anyone saying "I stand with Coco" was fucking Gura's one off comment dedicating a song to Coco during her first karaoke.

>>13624099
really 2 collabs and 1 sponsor collab in 1 year and you are proud?

>>13624177
>Coco was isolated because she never gave a fuck about anything but hololive
Coco was never friends with anyone from nijisanji or any other agencies for that matter, and he probably deleted because of tribal schizos.

>>13622657
I'm inclined to say that Cover was fine with more collabs back when Nijisanji was the bigger company. Now that their numbers have grown to such gargantuan level, they just don't care all that much

Didn't know that nijisanji supported covering up doxxing.

Holochads we can't stop winning

>>13621500
Will Nux be there?

>>13624274
Those anons were saying every group turned their back on Hololive which was false. It wasn't only about EN groups.

>>13621500
You sure Vshoujo will attend this?

>>13624285
Shut up we're rewriting events here.

>>13624285
Another revisionism. Retard

>hololive chose Coco, Haachama
>hololive left china.
>hololive closed CN branch.
>Haachama is still in hololive, celebrated her birthday with a niji member as last guest
>hololive is still harassed by chinks zhangs until now, despite Coco leaving

End of story. If you are experiencing hallucination, it's a sign of mental illness.

>>13624334
Nah, that's just Subaru.

I have nothing against Vshojo, but the TTS guy needs to go away.

>>13624310
Yes, it proves the point wrong that they "dont collab'. I don't control the interest & comfort of the chuubas. What's your point?

>>13624285
>Cover didn't even stand up for its talents when they made Coco and Haachama apologize before suspending them, what makes you think any other company should do it for them?
This is dumb. First of all, apologizing and taking a break IS the protective measure. It was meant to calm Chinks down, not to punish Coco or Haachama. It unfortunately didn't work this time, but that doesn't change the fact that it was meant to protect Coco and Haachama - and when it failed, Cover never bulged another inch.
Moreover, did you forget how Fubuki tell the management to fuck off and keep her tweet to support Coco, knowingly throw away half of her income? Did you forget all Holo members who appeared in Coco's come back Asacoco? Did you forget all collabs between Hololive members with Coco? Did you forget how Cover willingly removed HoloCN instead of Coco? I wasn't just talking about the period between TW yab and Coco's return - I was talking about the months between TW yab and Coco's graduation announcement. There were plenty of time to offer words of supports, my dear anon. VShojo (well, except Vei) managed to do that, why couldn't others?

Very cool to see that this thread about a big collab turned into Hololive fans complaining about Hololive not being included

>>13624684
How many of the EN groups were even around back then? Did NijiEN even debut as yet?

>Guys Hololive is the victim here!
This is just shitposting right?

>>13624830
Learn english. It's more of people complaining hololive won't collab.

>>13624830
A big collab that Hololive was excluded from for some reason.

>>13624841
>Did NijiEN even debut as yet?
No

>>13625025
Alright, I was trying to remember how far back that was. What other EN groups would've even existed to give words of support? This is assuming HoloEN would've even given them attention.

>>13624841
>Did NijiEN even debut as yet?
Lazulight debut'd on April 22nd. Obsydia debut'd on 16th May while Coco graduated on July 1st, so yes.
(It's not like NijiJP offered a lot of support either)

>>13624673
>needs
He’s not going anywhere. So sorry.

>>13621943
Based

>>13624920
No one is saying that Hololive is the victim. However, if you don't treat other party nicely when they were down, don't be surprised that they, in turn, treat you in all business-like manner after they rose again
It's understandable that Niji (or other groups in general) didn't want to interact with Holo back then. It should be just as understandable, though, that Holo doesn't want to risk themselves to interact with other EN groups (VShojo is an exception since they actually offered words of supports)

>>13625362
But I feel like there's a flaw here, early Lazulight didn't completely ignore HoloEN. They were interacting with them on Twitter just fine. Sure they weren't tweeting out FREE TAIWAN but they weren't giving them the cold shoulder either. As for the smaller groups I don't even know if HoloEN gave them any attention at all in the first place. If a group isn't really interacting with you why would you feel the need to tweet your support for them?

>>13621500
Is it funny or sad that with NijiEN being there, the possible inclusion of one English-speaking Holo would have some manager from some company going "NOOOOPE"?

I have no clue why do you faggots complain about Cover being overbearing. Have you seen the state of the ENvtubing scene? With the exception of some nijiEN livers and a few indies it's just a see of shit.
If anything knowing that HoloEN won't be involved with the filth that is going to participate in this collab makes me glad.

>>13625833
The only problem is the NijiENbargo.

Confirmed chuubas so far:

>Selen Tatsuki (Niji EN)
>Nina Kosaka (Niji EN)
>Derem Kado (Niji ID)
>Siska Leontyne (Niji ID)
>Hari Ryu (Niji KR)
>Luna Rurine (WACTOR)
>Laila Shino (WACTOR)
>Amaki Pururu (Project ZERO)
>Ruif Infy (Project ZERO)

Tell me if I missed anyone. The VShojo representatives are still unknown.

>>13623238
Why doesn't Gura ever do collabs? Is that her doing or theirs?

>>13625833
Nah, Kawaii, Prism, Tsunderia and Cyberlive all have great girls that follow the wannabe Holo seiso model. Just because you're ignorant doesn't mean there aren't good girls out there.

>>13626049
Mousey will definitely be there. She loves Crab Game

>>13626052
Her. Gura seldom collabs even among EN (although she has been more active relatively recently with their anniversary and the addition of Council & IRyS). Shark is just a little bit of an autist

>>13626052
She does collabs with other Holomems and she seems happy with that.
At least I've never heard of her complaining about not being able to collab with someone.

>>13621500
I got excited for a moment because I thought it was VSPO instead of Vshojo.....

>>13623974
Look up most of that stuff you mentioned and look at the dates anon. Don't be like Selenfags who somehow remember her collab with Kanae being during the month she debuted instead of two months later.

>>13625195
They were around when Coco graduated, but they weren't around during the TW Yab

>>13626151
Any offlineTV boost coming?

>Crab Game
Yawn.
>Would you rathe--
No. Mass collab streamerbait games are all some variety of shit. Crab Game's just a particularly fetid variety.

>>13624673
Mouse likes him, most likely she really likes him, you know how shut in women act it's obvious why she has him around so much.

Can someone please explain to me what even is the point of collabs like this one?
Generally I watch streams for the streamer and not for the games they play. But if my oshi was participating in this collab all I would get is a dozen other people screeching in the proximity chat for hours.
What's the appeal?

>>13626125
>Kawaii, Prism, Tsunderia and Cyberlive
These are fine
>niji & vshojo
no. to make the faggots seethe.

>>13626567
Its like a tourney but unlike shit like CR Cup, we don't get scrims that let you watch a team's story/relationship unfold/grow.

>>13623599
>second wheel in Japan
anon, it's 2021, stop living in early 2020

>>13626322
I wasn't just talking about the period of a month or two around TW yab, though. I was talking about the entire time between TW yab and Coco's graduation announcement / graduation. Basically, when Chinks assault was most intense. Quoting myself:
> I was talking about the months between TW yab and Coco's graduation announcement. There were plenty of time to offer words of supports, my dear anon. VShojo (well, except Vei) managed to do that, why couldn't others?

>>13626567
Ikr? We know how these big vtuber collabs gonna end up.
Are we supposed to forget about this?

>>13626617
You WILL enjoy the Vshoujo collab

>>13626567
You get to see them interact with others, if you're only into the streamer alone then you might as well avoid any and all collabs.

>>13626753
and if you don't, we'll just remove your feedback

>>13626712
Shoutouts to Scarra. Just slap some avatars on the big OTVs and have them collab to boost everyone. Aren't VShojo part of the OTV friends?

>>13626796
I think the anon's complaint is mainly that they won't even be able to interact with each other properly if dozens of people are screehing in proximity chat. It'll just be a bunch noises.

>>13626823
>and have them collab to boost everyone
Yeah, the boost are not actually happening. It's not like this is the first time NijiEN collabing with them.

>>13626796
Even 5 people collabs can become completely chaotic and incomprehensible if people talk over each other. I don't mind collabs at all but I also cannot imagine what kind of entertainment I could get out of collab with dozens of people in the same call. It's just white noise at this point.

>>13626879
That wasn't really much of a problem in the NijiEN crab game collab, if they're spaced out you won't be hearing every other player at once.

>>13626929
When did NijiEN collab with the big OTVs? I specifically mentioned big OTVs not just any OTV like Scarra.

>>13627108
Scarra is a founding member of OTV anon... are you dissatisfied that he didn't have enough ccv? that's disrespectful, don't be greedy

>>13627108
About a month ago. Ironmouse and Maia invited Elira and Pomu to a big Twitch-streamer Crab Game collab.
There was no real boost for them because it was last-minute, they didn't stream their POVs, and they didn't do any "introductions"/shilling segments. People just hopped in and played.

>>13627196
>are you dissatisfied that he didn't have enough ccv?
Thats why I mentioned big.

>>13627252
Who was in the collab?

>Oh no! HoloEN girls won't be able to play a shitty game with vwhorejo and twitch eceleb normal faggots.
Is that supposed to be a a bad thing?

>>13627346
He is.
>founding member of OTV
if they built a good rapport with him, your girls will have better chances, don't blame him if nijien wasted that chance.

>>13627252
>>13627383
the one with Corpse, Sykkuno, Rae, Mizkif? then Rae asked her viewers to raid ironmouse, you'll find the spike on twitctracker

>>13627410
>don't blame him if nijiEN weren't able to suck some e-celeb's dick for clout.
Go back to /incel/ please.

>>13627410
Founding member just means he was important. He's not big. At least not in the current state.
>>13627387
As far as I know, there aren't any traditional streamers in this collab.

>>13627383
On the vtubing side of things, I remember Froot, Nyan, ironmouse, Maia, Elira, Pomu, Kamiko Kana. On the twitch streamer side, I remember Ludwig, Dream, Corpse, and ton of names I didn't recognize.

>>13627517
Sorry, I can't be part of your club.

>>13626049
Hada's confirmed it in the description of her new free chat frame (as well as that she won't be streaming it)

>>13627528
>important
>but not big
nijikeks are too greedy.

>>13627676
I mean there is a difference between the two things anon. Sora's important but she's not big. Rin sure as hell isn't as big as Mito and maybe Kaede despite being important early on like the other two.

>>13626049
https://youtu.be/NsHIRLYIx3M?t=14848

>>13627108
Elira had a 4 person collab with Sykkuno
Finana had a 5 person collab with Lilypichu

>>13627383
Sykunno, Corpse, Karl, Valkyrae, boyinaband, some other big twitch streamers and vtubers.

>>13627849
She said a lot more names yesterday
https://youtu.be/tfIGSTTuauI?t=27842

>>13627849
>Pika
>Uto
>Pomu

Hell of a crossover.
>Reimu
>Froot

>>13627889
When did Elira have the collab? Sykkuno stopped being OTV at some point. He lasted only a few months but couldn't commit to moving. Keep up with my shitty old Twitch news.

>Pika
>Uto
>Pomu
>Elira
>Reimu
>Froot
>Melody

Hell of a crossover.

>>13628073
September 3rd

>>13627849
>>13627957
>Pika
>Uto
>Pomu
>Elira
>Reimu
>Froot
>Melody

Hell of a crossover.

>>13627957
The names I can make out from Selen's garbage pronunciation
>Froot, Hada, Derem, Elira, Euriece, Mafuyu, Millie, Nina, Pomu, Reimu, Restya, Suha, Qu, Kohaku, Shiromanta, Hari, Laila, Luna, Mika, Projekt Melody, Rosemi, Tempplex, Pikamee, Uto, Siska

>>13628115
>2021
Yea Sykkuno was no longer OTV at that point. He's still an OTV friend which is strong tho.

>>13622657
>what does Cover stand to gain from doing that?
Cover better hold tight to that gate or cave in soon. People either better not know about other vtuber groups because when more and more people do they will see Covers behavior trying to maintain as much control as they can and be disgusted by it. I have nothing against Holo talents, but all the other EN corpos are getting closer together, and you will see that one corpo is the odd one out.

>>13622028

They all speak Japanese. Some of them speak Spanish, but as second language

Main Japanese/Spanish girl is Hina Misora. She had a Spanish Collab with Reimu (NijiEn) some time ago

Anyway, Selen has given a list of people participating in this.


Selen, Pomu, Nina, and Reimu are participating as NIJISANJI EN.

>>13621624
Selen, Reimu, Pomu, and Nina are participating from NIJISANJI EN side.

>>13623262
>It's the same reason why you don't just let your kids play with random kids out there without checking if they would be good influences
Bruh, this is not how you make friend....

>>13629784
>>13629819
Wosemi too.

>>13629784
>>13629819
Wosemi and Elira too.

>>13622405
A few might. Mori, Kiara, Ollie. Maybe IRyS and Bae. Ollie would probably be the only one that would be super psyched for it.

>>13622910
Yeah just get the permissions for it. I'm sure the person that made the game would have zero problem giving Holo EN permissions, even Niji EN got permissions for it within a week or even less.

Considering how RPR is, this will probably be a more organized collaboration. I don't know if they will do introductions for all participants, but I definitely believe it won't be a too chaotic fiasco.

Hopefully Selen will be able to stream her POV this time!

>>13621500
can't wait for pomu to say everyone is a cunt and glad that their dads left them

which company is missing here? hmmm

>>13630786
Would be dangerously based.

>>13628152
Aside from the nijis, they collabed together before.

>>13630949
Nijis are the common point there, Froot and co have never collabed with Uto

>>13631011
Not with Froot, but with a few of that group.

>>13626678
yeah 2021 when they dropped to 2nd again

>>13631678
watch them as holoX gonna bring them back to 1st for 2022

>>13631678
Maybe in your dreams

>>13630849
Don't worry, I'm sure RPR's good friend Kureiji Ollie was definitely asked and she just HAPPENED to have declined this big collab full of people she loves interacting with.

It's not at all indicative of the entire company being arbitrarily chained down while the rest of the world freely plays together.

>>13621500
>WACTOR
Based, I'm glad they're participating.

>>13630949
Selen has collabed with all of those except for Melody, and Pomu collabed with Melody

>>13628784
Is it posible that Hina can take part in this even without the eigo?

>>13632380
She's not taking part, it's Laila and Luna from Wactor

>>13631980
niji isnt even trying and just lands above cover for no reason, sad

>>13632450
>>13632450
let me correct that, anon
>holo isnt even trying and just lands above enikara for no reason, sad

>>13632531
let me correct that, anon
>holo is trying very hard to be second, sad

>>13621695
So... where's the "massive" part?
Those are 2views

Luna's cunny power is too strong.

>>13621915
>>13621943
Let's pretend for a minute that Cover is a parent, Hololive is their child, and that Vshojo, Nijisanji EN, etc. are considered "the cool kids" on the play ground that Hololive wants to hang out with.

Cover is being a bitch of a mom and restricting Hololive's creative/collaborative abilities and making their talents feel more like characters rather than people. Hololive is forced to "play nice" 24/7 because of idolfaggotry. Nijisanji and Vshojo isn't. Therefore making collabs less likely in some circumstances. I actually fucking praise Ollie, Kiara, and Mori for attempting to break the chains holding them down and expand.

>>13621500
Can't wait to see how cumulative views on this MASSIVE COLLAB will be less than half of a holox debut.

>>13633236
No fuck that the day Hololive breaks the bubble it ends, or do you wanna see the Sykkuno and Gura collab one day.

>pay attention to the popular thing only!
also, we've all seen this comment before

>>13633236
I get your point but ironically all that "making their talents feel more like characters rather than people" is what makes hololive different and great for the west, it's new, unique, and groundbreaking for the market full of 3DPD's. There's a reason why Niji or Vshojo got mocked for bringing nothing new to the table, because that's not a lie since they wanna and do operate like 3DPDs. So what's their selling point then? NOTHING!

>>13633658
Not anymore, twitch streamers get bored fast

>>13633764
Holobronies trashed non-streaming vtubers for what hololive is doing now, fucking hypocrites

>>13633893
which collab was this? The one before was the ironmouse collab

>>13621500
1k likes lmao DOA event

>>13633951
Holobronies (as in HoloEN fans) are doing this, I can still respect the ones who don't give a shit about Myth or Council.

>>13633951
>non-streaming vtubers
?? vtweeters?

>>13630178
idk man, it's just that none of them really interested in crab game since they're stuck deep into pokearc rn

>>13634830
Kizuna Ai, Kaguya Luna and co.
They didn't stream back then and just uploaded videos.

>>13633764
>There's a reason why Niji or Vshojo got mocked for bringing nothing new to the table.

No one outside of /vt/ did this. Plus, Mori, Fubuki, Matsuri, Towa, Okayu, Korone, Pekora, Marine, Suisei have all engaged with actual people on stream, and that's just off the top of my head.

How come Hololive is never in this stuff

>>13635833
Holo management stops them.

The modern vtubing world is basically split between two groups, one huge massive group where everyone gets along with other, and Hololive on its little island.

>>13635833
They don't want to. They want to separate themselves from the rest of the industry. Like the apple of vtubing.

>>13626302
Why don't you look up? Everything I mentioned was in november/december.

>>13635833
because hololive is a zoo and the talents are only allowed to move around in their assigned enclosures

Why are there so many beggars in this thread? And why are they seething exactly?

>>13635924
I can't imagine a roster of that size not having a single person who wants to collaborate. It's kind of weird how basically every major player in the vtuber industry but Hololive is able to get along.

You're right about that Apple thing though, I guess this keeps them looking more premium.

>>13635833
They got very big and now they probably don't wanna associate with other chuubas in large crossovers anymore. There's only small collabs, with very few exceptions
>>13635980
I don't know, usually anons here praise Hololive keeping to themselves

>>13635980
Holobeggars are seething that their girls can't play with everyone else.

>>13635980
>baiting with Gura
begone, false flagging punk

>>13635924
Speaking on behalf of others is kind of a cunt move, anon.

>>13636054
>>13636055
From what I can see, it's both Holobeggars and tribalists shittalking Hololive and/or management for "keeping them contained"
>>13636072
I'm a chumbud (You) faggot

>>13636233
>people have opinions separate from your own
goddamn, this is unbelievable

>>13636328
What's up, did I say something wrong? I don't think I ever said the opposite, you seem mad

>>13636465
Yeah, you started posting stupid shit with an avatar of Gura in an attempt to give her fanbase a bad image. Go fuck yourself you disingenuous prick.

Collaborating outside of Hololive would just diminish the prestigious image Cover has cultivated with their brand. It also works internally as a psychological exercise. The girls understand that they're better than the 2views playing together in the kiddie pool.

is this unity? why my girl Nimu not invitar?

>>13635922
>2021
I can't believe hololive is popular without chinese money

>>13636998
their viewers and clippers are chinese though?

For a bunch of fags that are supposedly, "pro-unity", you sure are against letting your oshis unify and make friends with people outside Hololive. Pretty fucking ironic if you ask me.

>>13637209
Hongkonger & Taiwanese, learn the difference, burger kun

>>13637409
Unity within Hololive, retard, not giving handouts to random motherfuckers. The only reason those other vtubers band together is because apart they aren't even a fraction of Hololive's success. I prefer Cover keeps the girls contained, that way it actually means something to make it into Hololive.

>>13637409
Why? are we at war, fighting aliens, and unite to increase the power of friendship?

>>13637686
I mean you can repeat this all you want but it's simply not true. That's why holobronies pop a vein every time nijis are in the top 10 of anything

>>13621500
kek what a cast

>>13636233
>I'm a chumbud (You) faggot
>no comma
Yes, we know, mr. (You) faggot.

>>13637511
Both still 華人.

>>13623262
>It's the same reason why you don't just let your kids play with random kids out there without checking if they would be good influences
They'll just hate you for being overcontrolling and it'll result in problems either right then or years down the line. Obviously you don't let your small child hang out with sketchy teenagers or pedo ojisans but that's very different from making sure that a fellow 5 year old is a good influence before you let your kid make a sand castle with them. And if it turns out that the 5 year old is a bad influence, you can just deal with it then or help the kid deal with it and thus give them a basis for dealing with those situations later in life.
>It's the same reason why Cover doesn't just let their members play with random vtubers out there without checking if they would be good influences
The members will just hate Cover for being overcontrolling and it'll result in problems either right then or years down the line. Obviously Cover shouldn't let their talents do streams that are bound to lead to legal complications or offpako with random fans but that's very different from making sure an unremarkable vtuber is a good influence before they let their members play a game with them. And if it turns out that that unremarkable vtuber is a bad influence, Cover can just deal with it then or help the members deal with it and thus give them a basis for dealing with or avoiding such situations in the future.

>>13635833
Why would anyone wants to be in this small, insignificant collab?

>>13624841
>>13625145
If Im not forgetting something Tsunderia is the only one that was existed before holoEN. Theres indie groups like Atelier but those are harder to track.

>>13641229
Because it looks fucking fun

>>13623266
EN scene is the worst indeed, too much drama, but that's not the case with ID scene where little to no drama ever happened. Sad that people like Ollie who would love to join a collab like this is prevented from participating just because of the idiotic company policy to protect other branches.

>>13621947
To be fair, is better this way, you can't trust outside vtubers since the majority of them want clout and/or money

>>13621695
>Nina and Luna
cute I can't wait to see Nina running after Luna

>>13642072
Because the girls that joined Hololive didn't, specially the ones that were vtubers before.

Nimu still not invited? no? no? screw your fake unity