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13609324 No.13609324 [Reply] [Original]

How do we save Hololive EN? The branch is seemingly becoming more irrelevant in the EN vtuber world and are no longer the trendsetters they were before

>> No.13611586

>>13609324
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>> No.13611652

Make songs for Gura that she did the best in karaoke.
can be either acoustic, country or citypop
the fact that she can record sorairo days and aikotoba means studio is not a concern.
she can easily pull out 30M views in 2 months if she plays around her voice

The only problem is Gura doesn't want to be in the spotlight and she intentionally oppressed her viewership.

>> No.13611660

>>13609324
Why are deadbeats like this?

>> No.13611677

>>13609324
You just know Omega is seething after seeing a last minute rushed debut absolutely mog his magnum opus

>> No.13611718

>>13609324
If EN is failing, ID must already be dead.

>> No.13611766

Just debut a new gen with a bunch of normal Americans and buy some office/streaming space near the biggest group of them. Lack of 3d stalled en really hard.

>> No.13611767

>>13609324
Do we really coexist in the same timeline?

>> No.13611813

>>13609324
More like council being full of normies that can't handle 1 month of streams without taking a break

>> No.13612028

>>13611718
ID has way more clout with JP,Stars, Niji, and indies than EN does combined.

>> No.13612196

>>13612028
>JP,Stars, Niji, and indies
That's why they're dead

>> No.13612270

the only trend they ever set was "existing"

>> No.13612335

>>13612028
But pulls in way less numbers, crossover deals and overall appeal. Since the OP is referring to "failing", the only thing that can be inferred is numbers. Even the council girls sit well above multiple IDs combined streaming at once.

>> No.13612349
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13612349

Blame the lack of 3D mainly. Also, over 14 months and only 1 set of new outfits? Cover aren't supporting them as well as they could.

>> No.13612422

>>13609324
I want to see a mental breakdown happening live

>> No.13612423
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13612423

Bruh

>> No.13612426

>>13612349
Remind me how many outfits Pekora has gotten again?

>> No.13612462

Every failure they ever had was self sabotage. They aren't humble enough to consider this a real job.

>> No.13612545

>>13612462
The difference in work ethic between JP and EN is astounding. Especially Council who have have multiple week breaks for every single member within the first 3 months, which is fucking disgusting

>> No.13612554

>>13612426
I see what argument you're trying to make. But I'm confident if Pekora wanted new outfits she would have had them by now.

>> No.13612579

The real question is if Kiara will have a breakdown over numbers or if she already got over that

>> No.13612748

>>13609324
>EN
Worthless hype and lore with basic debut
>JP
Sudden unannounced debut with higher view counts
Omega BTFO'd. JP continues to show EN how its done.

>> No.13612759

>>13612426
>JP has events pretty much every week
>event attracts tourist
>event ends and the view funnel to pekora or other jp chuubas.

>> No.13612870

>>13609324
wtf r u on about? 2 of the biggest hololive vtubers are literally holo EN

>> No.13612887

>>13612759
Or maybe Pekora is more entertaining and just a better streamer tham the ENs?

>> No.13612935

>>13612870
Pekora and Marine are in JP.

>> No.13612973

>>13609324
Call me when a JP gets 3M subs.

>> No.13612990

>>13609324
All of HoloEN's failures can be attributed to management, as they pick the performers and control what they can and can't do.

>> No.13613068

>>13612349
I know you Americans think otherwise, but the Pandemic, KIND OF FUCKED up a lot of things from 2020 - 2021. This includes the REQUIRED travel to the LOCATION of Cover FOR 3D FITTING.
>>13612759
NTA but...
>JP Talent able to do business, in Japan, that requires being present, in Japan.
More news at 11.
>>13612554
Since you don't actually watch her, she's stated numerous times she never got a new outfit in a timely fashion, the only other new non-obligatory outfit she's gotten was of her own commission.

>> No.13613070

>>13612973
Kizuna AI would switch places with Pekora in a heartbeat. Subs aren't everything, kiddo.

>> No.13613140

FILL GURA CHANNEL WITH SONGS YOU FUCKING FAGGOTS HER KARAOKE CLIPS ARE A MILLION VIEWS EACH AAAAAAA RETARDS

>> No.13613228

>>13612887
Nah just looks at a non event day, her numbers are worse than a day with an event.

>> No.13613231

Vshojo is slowly taking over their audience. Hololive doesn't understand what kind of streaming culture exists in the west. Copying Japan doesn't work in the long run.

>> No.13613286

>>13613231
Jp doesn't take many days off anon...

>> No.13613322

>>13613286
You know you're wrong so I don't even need to mention the most JP of holoJP that never fucking streams

>> No.13613384

>>13613070
And yet subs are the industry standard, kiddo. Don't overdose on copium, that's dangerous.

>> No.13613459

>>13613231
>Vshojo
Go have your nux drama faggot

>> No.13613470

>>13613231
Copying Japan...how? Japanese have only Sundays off of School and Work (unless closed) and very few holidays that leads to "relaxation days", the "western streaming culture" is just being cancerous fucks that ignore social cues. Pretty sure Japan doesn't want to emulate that.

>> No.13613555

>>13613470
> the "western streaming culture" is just being cancerous fucks that ignore social cues
Exactly. You not liking it doesn't disprove my point. The reason why HoloEN is losing steam in the west isn't hard to understand. Copying was the wrong word, more like retaining Japanese streaming culture. HoloEN isn't exactly the same HoloJP but the influence is still too strong for many western normies to understand.

>> No.13613803

>>13609324
Council simply takes too many breaks

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