/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

General numberfag sites
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/CCfK7mVR

This one

>>13593196
Can't find any source of this. Did you make this, OP?

>>13593288
No I found it in one of the other threads floating around the catalogue

>>13593288
There are some complex chink lookjing characters there, so I assume some TW did

The highest monthly median ccv will be challenged.
RIP to Pekora's most monthly gold and highest median ccv this month.

>>13593409
anon they are only going to be doing two streams, we don't include anyone that does less than five

My money is on the body guard.

>>13593409
she could try again next year
december is impossible

Oh no, one of the new ones responded to Matsuri. Stay away from her!! She is toxic!!!

https://twitter.com/natsuiromatsuri/status/1464108203457724420

>>13593484
It's the loli too. She knows what's she's in for.

>>13593435
The first is just to troll Ayame's record.
Niji official is already higher than Pekora this month

>Didn't even give Versen a month to build their fanbase
And you have just gotten back some goodwill from Sony recently, Hololive...

HoloX sub timestamp

>55k already (2 hours minutes 52 minutes)

Yea, this pace is slightly slower than IRyS (100k subs in 5 hours). Should be the fastest JP though.

>>13593196
kek. Also it's 1 day per debut right? goddamn gold medals will be tough

>>13593560
Until they give blanket permissions sony can suck my big fat dick

>>13593560
Sony picked the wrong side

>>13593560

>>13593769
That punchable face

>>13593560
Should of given those Bloodborne permissions.

>>13593560
Imagine if Sony M had held themselves for a few years before investing to any companies. Anykara wouldn't do as good as they are today while Cover would still get their Global boom and drama in August and September. Had they invested this year on Hololive, VERSEn wouldn't exist and an anime of Hololive would be possible along with better AR tech from Sony.

>>13593823
Is it? Looks like an oji-san picking up his daughter from kindergarten.

Do you think HoloX will have merch on debut?

>>13593850
Being in bed with Sony is the kiss of death for a functional company.

>>13594012
Yea, a tapestry at least.

>>13594012
non-zero chance that after their first collab they'll announce something like they did for Council, probably something with the gen logo too.

>>13594012
HoloFive got it so I expect it to have either a Tshirt or a song.

>>13594012
They will probably announce it during their first group collab.

Why are we so dead?

>>13594188
Calm before the storm

>>13594076
>>13594082
>>13594092
>>13594094
Ok. Do you think on of the gen 6 girls was the artist for 8t?

>>13594188
The burgers are all either in a food coma or involved in family arguments

>>13594188
New gen, all our trolls and schizos are having their fill in other threads rn.

>>13594188
No real number to discuss outside of HoloSEX subs. HoloENs and NijiENs numbers are both lower than usual, probably due to Thanksgiving, so I guess usual tribalists aren't as excited

>>13593560
Imagine if Verse had:
>good tech
>all 10/10 designs (cunny cant carry all of them)
>a bilingual talent

Its fucking Sony they have the money but zero of the creativity or enthusiasm.

>>13594188
There is no numbers to talk about currently. No 10k+ is streaming right now. Comeback later.

>>13594231
As is tradition.

>>13594227
If they've gone and pulled in ANOTHER goddamn artist as one of the chubbas, well, that'll be 3 gens they've done that for now (EN 1+2, This gen).
Its not impossible, but we'll see for sure once they've all debuted.

>>13594188
Thanksgiving

>>13594227
No but who knows. I exepect at least a former Pro player and a good singer but we will know after the debuts.

HoloX sub timestamp

>60k already (3 hours 12 minutes)

Yea, this is the last timestamp from me. Other anons can continue if they want to. I'ma head to bed to catch the debut stream.

>>13594280
buddy there is no correlation between the quality of your model and the audience you get, as long as your model isn't complete crap it won't significantly affect your reach. I mean, shit, that JP vtuber who blew up in taiwan literally looks like this

>>13594280
>a bilingual talent
Isn't one of them quadlingual?

>>13594188
Holos win every day so there is nothing to discuss

>>13594591
Yeah, the sheep

https://youtube-jp.googleblog.com/2021/11/ytfanfest2021.html
Hololive is actually invited this time (weird choice though)

>>13594472
Alright anon

>>13594736
Shion?

>>13594827
Yes

>>13594736
>https://youtube-jp.googleblog.com/2021/11/ytfanfest2021.html
Shion, hmm weird choice
>Rion takamiya
Even weirder choice. She's a sub 1k

guessing the cunny will have the highest debut ccv of the five even if shes the top batter

>>13594884
I wasn't talking about subscribers/viewers in my post. Just remember how Shion was invited to Sugita's radio once and wasn't really good at talk. Rion is definitely more experienced in that.

>>13593560

>>13595007
Wasn't Shion only invited in that case because Subaru binned the invitation she go thinking it was something weird?

>>13594736
feels like whoever they pick from holo would make a good representative. except for miko and luna's nihonggo

>4k waiting

>>13594188
nigga i have 6 tabs open, i'm typing while i eat

>>13593850
No. Fuck sony and their chuuba deals

Lap+ 64k
Lui 53k
Koyori 55.2k
Chloe 54.4k
Iroha 54k

>>13595075
this shit reminds me of coco graduation numbers 5 hours, 4k waiting This might break 200k+.

>>13593560
>Didn't even give Versen a month to build their fanbase
>VShojo Anniversary
>GenV
>All the startups that debut new gens this month

If they want to compete make better decisions

>>13593830
>>13593850
sony playstation and sony music have nothing to do with each other
>>13594884
Rion has between 2k-3k most of the times.

>>13594736
from Holo - Shion
from Niji - Uiha, Rion
then Kizuna
did I miss any chubas?

>>13595208
Did they have ads for the debuts?

>>13595192
Anon, we're fighting Susan here...

>>13594591
>quadlingual
reminds me of that line from the Chappelle Show.
https://youtu.be/9DLuALBnolM?t=198
she's gonna need all the languages to shill for Sony

>>13595190
Your prediction on whos going to be the least popular/slower grow and the fastest one among them?

>>13595369
The bird one, all bird been complete trash because of Kiara

>>13595348
Of the 4 only 2 are useful, English and Japanese, Korean is marginally useful and then there's fucking >French.

>>13595245
>sony playstation and sony music have nothing to do with each other
>disregarding jp internal politics

>>13594884
RIon is a 3k streamer

>>13595208
>VShojo Anniversary
You mean the vshojo dramafest right?

>>13595348
Sony should've went all out. Hire reknown illust, put ads on holo and niji streams, pay niji top talent or some big name streamer to give a shoutout, put them on some chuuba interview, pay collab with big name chuubas that known to shill, etc. Instead, they just throw them in to the wild, for now at least.

>>13595487
Sure buddy

>>13593560
Now I feels bad for Uno and Itsuki....

>>13595450
Hey don't knock the french market, they have a thriving weeb culture over there. There is a reason Saruei managed to get hololive numbers just by speaking french. The main issue is that the average frenchman categorically refuses to consume anything that isn't dubbed over in french.

>>13595418
Every other birds are placed 2nd on their gen aside from Kiara anon

watch vods please

>>13595208
Fucking hell, these agencies don't fucking stand a chance at this point.

>>13595369
>least popular/slower grow
cat
>the fastest
short Gura/Shion-killer

>>13595570
No

>>13595570
Holoshit, these VODs are brutal. I don't know why people keep flocking to HoloEN VODs while Vshojo VODs are in the shitter.

>>13595369
Whoever made this poster did a really great job

Meanwhile, on a less important news
https://www.reddit.com/r/Hololive/comments/r2bkz1/kureiji_ollie_celebrates_900000_subscribers/

>>13594488
Anon, you are conflating appearance with personality. They are two different things and two different jobs

>>13595664
>inb4 one of the new girls did it.
I expect it to be Sana tho. Even Kakage would do for free if they let him.

>>13595570
twitch kids dont care about vods
and both nyana and mouse have let their highlit channel die so yeah...
On the other clickbait latina slut
https://www.youtube.com/c/NimuCh/videos

>>13595570
I will never watch nyanshit

>>13595698
omedetou!!!!!!!!!

>>13595369

These fuckers seriously

>>13595813
They keep on stealth marketing.

>>13595698
>meanwhile 3/4 of gen 5 still haven't hit 900k
Ahaha

>>13594188
Go to catalog if you want to feel alive anon
Also I'm stealing OP Pic

>>13595813
First off, that's what the downvote button is for
Secondly, stop self doxing you dumb fucker, you comment in every single one of these threads

>>13595813
More like Shion + Ayame.

>>13595916
Yeah 5 are all me

>>13595813
>>13595984
>>13595916

Well, the subreddit will be like this for a while huh
At least it will be lively until next week *sigh*

>>13595813
Why are Nijifags like this?

>>13596042
holo subreddit is owned by nijishill now hahaahahahaha

>>13595813
I'm gonna report this. T-chan should take this down, seriously.

>>13596065
You fucking wish
I mean, at least it's not a place for containment breaches
https://www.reddit.com/r/Hololive/comments/r2df1a/ame_was_a_prophet_all_along/

>>13596090
no he won't do anything, this is too small time for them to bother with and it's just courting more trouble

>>13595837
>still gets more viewers than Ollie
Gen 5 schizo is a special breed I see

>>13595255
I think that's all of them. Other members are all top Japanese Youtubers

>>13596090
Nah, you're going about it the wrong way
Why need to delete it and potentially bring more attention by ratting both tribalfag and unitifag to goes againsts each other, while you can just bury it under 30 memes about how hype everyone is about the new gen, which everyone is making right now anyway to farm karma
The market will speak for itself

>>13596180
>he doesn't know that SEA adblock adoption is the highest in the world
Once you correct for adblock culls Ollie's viewership is at least on par with Polka and Lamy.

>>13596233
This is the best time to delete it now.

It will get buried in more Hololive related memes, plus it only has about 3 comments.

Also, there's a rule in the subreddit about not advertising vtubers outside the company, so no one can really complain.

So far the sub difference is pretty small.

>>13596337
None of them have a great or an awful desing so is expected.

>>13596249
Kek. Never saw lamy or polka drop to less than 2k viewers

>>13593567
71k subs after 4 hours.

>>13596405
ahem

>>13596493
Cunny! God I wish she has the appropriate loli voice. She could be the Gura killer.

>>13596464
this will beat IRyS' record if no culling occurs, her debut will guarantee +100k at the 24th hour mark

>>13596464
>4.8k waiting
nijibros..

Bets on anyone in the gen being an apex autist?

>>13596493
>>13596538
If she know a little English she can Collab with gura.

>>13596577
ah shit, we're gonna get a gen 6 schizo

>>13596577
Who?

>>13596603
Nah, that is a literally who Niji. The reason the Gen 5 schizo exists is because it was a fairly high profile 3D debut.

>>13596577
You can't compare 3D debuts to vtuber debuts, they're entirely different in hype level.

>>13596577
How much is she seething at Hololive stealing her only moment to earn big?

>>13596577
>starting at the same time
Oh, they're literally going head to head huh.

>>13596577
What's up with niji obsession?

Anyone have data for Edengumi debut?

>>13596733
You walk on a street and you see ants. You stomp them even though they're harmless and does literally nothing to you.
And as the ant you will take it.

https://twitter.com/tokino_sora/status/1464121808324415489

>direct link to la+
thank you senpai

Would the Nijifanbase try to one-up the debut? Sounds like something they would do based on the rrats propagated here.

>>13596578
I think someone is Master rank in Apex.

>>13596627
they don't have reasons. if they're gonna chimp out, they're gonna chimp out

>>13596734
https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/archives-ranking?date=2021-07-22

>>13596829
Fake Master like Botan who'll never play the game again because she's a coward?

>>13596839
Thanks anon. 90k is pretty high I wonder if they can reach it especially with short hype period.

>>13596820
With what? They have nothing.

>>13596815
Hololive's unity within the company is insane.

>>13596820
>Nijifanbase try to one-up the debut
fanbase can't do shit

>>13596781
ken
The story about the boots and ant

>>13596879
Edengumi being a relay was a really smart idea from Ichikara, too bad Cover didn't learn from them

HAHAHAHA

better than joining a tourney and get rekt, like a certain niji girl

>>13596867
Botan actually shows she's good with FPS though and she never really told anyone her rank in Apex.

>>13596911
They learnt though, EN debuts were relay. They probably want to avoid anniversaries overlap.

>>13596815
As if the thousand people who watch Polka will amount to anything, lmao

>>13596911
Oh he didn't know, who's going to teach this retard

How strong will the new collab buff be with Gen 6?

debut numbers

3期
Pekora 2019/07/17 5,349
Rushia 2019/07/18 6,199
Flare 2019/08/07 5,092
Noel 2019/08/08 10,218
Marine 2019/08/11 7,506

3期で2倍に

4期
Kanata 2019/12/27 14,866
Coco 2019/12/28 11,052
Watame 2019/12/29 13,980
Towa 2020/01/03 17,552
Luna 2020/01/04 17,065

4期で10倍に

5期
Lamy 2020/08/12 103,348
Nene 2020/08/13 80,034
Botan 2020/08/14 112,925
Sex... 2020/08/15 83,819
Polka 2020/08/16 97,658

I wonder what is Cover's reason to debut EN with relays but not for JP and ID, maybe timezone and 1 hour format?

>>13596815
I suspect La+ to be a former upd8 member now

>>13596911
They will have streamers and other Vtubers promote them for those 5 days.

>>13597000
God, the difference for each gen is still insane to me

>>13597000
holy shit, that incline...

>>13596839
I keep forgetting that you can do that

real talk, what's gonna happen if one of the girls is actually Lulu of Gibara? are nijifags gonna anti her until the end of the Earth?

>>13596911
How are they doing now? did it bring new viewers?

>>13597002
Different management is the safe bet. Also relay will took up 5 hours of prime time with no other streams.

>>13596867
She does play FPS good enough to carry teams in the tournaments she has played before.
And better yet, she hasnt being exposed as a failure unlike a certain Niji.

>>13596997
Gen 5 will get priority for the first cross-gen collabs just like gen 4 had priority with gen 5, though seeing as gen 5 is missing one person there'll probably be double duty pulled somewhere. Gen 5's uncanny ability to work well with any partner + new gen collab buff should probably grant a very good multiplier to whatever gen 6's baseline numbers are for their debut month.

>>13597071
Relays are dumb. Limiting time for your talents is a stupid decision.

Hololive gen 5 tweet numbers
https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1291207699930050560
>36.9k likes
>22.1k retweets

Hololive gen 6 tweet numbers
https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1464066772340936706
>87.6k likes
>45.2k retweets

>>13597000
I doubt they'll be able to top gen 5 numbers. I'll place Holo X at 80-100k

>>13597142
gen 5 mogged ahahaha

>>13597067
yep, they harassed Gibara for going indie, how much more if they join holo

>>13597022
Kizuna Ai finally kneeled?

>>13596940
IIRC she did mention Master or something but she did say she got carried. I think she is good at FPS but with roommate knowledge and knowing her age, APEX sure as hell wasn't her main game. She's fucking older than Snipedown who's a dinosaur in APEX and despite being in a pro team, also isn't an APEX guy.

>>13597035
Pekora's is amazing to me, runt of her gen except for Flare with horrible early design, yet look at her now. Even with the most shinchan of games she'll never dip to 5k ever again

>>13597148
This. Feels like the vtuber phenomenon is maturing very quickly.

>>13597022
>>13597173
Could be one of the Ai clones

>>13597142
>36.9k likes
>22.1k retweets
yet ccv peaked 112k

>>13596815
I-Illegal?

>>13597000

Myth Debut: 2020/09/12~13
Calliope - 67,743
Kiara - 70,190
Inanis - 71,061
Gura - 79,035
Amelia - 68,265

Council Debut: 2021/08/23
Sana - 85,105
Fauna - 94,206
Kronii - 94,966
Mumei - 93,128
Baelz - 92,998

>>13597033
>>13597035
2020, the year of COVID, youtube algo and clippers (both JP/EN/others) changing the vtuber landscape.

>>13597190
in the early days of gen 3, Noel hard carried

>>13597173
Kizuna Ai already kneeled to Lamy.

>>13593196
Someone still have the latest nijijp debut numbers?

>>13597241
literally read the thread bro >>13596879

>>13597201
Only the blue one retired. I will cry if one of them is PinkyPop. It’s unlikely but I miss her.

>>13597190
The design is fine, its just how they executed it with the horrible mantis face model. Even early in the 2020 boom period, people were still making fun of Flare for having a slow all green chat. She steadily got popular and MC really boosted her.

>>13597000
Pekora went from "I'm sorry, I will give you better number next time" to "Your Numberfag calls me Queen too".

>>13597231
>>13597000

Hope Debut: 2021/07/11
Irys - 91,280

>>13597203
Youtube changed the CCV, anon. Gen 5 debuted before it so it will be harder to do the same numbers without a week of hype like Gen 5 got.
But if they get even at Aloe's level, is going to be a win for Cover.

>>13597188
>she did say she got carried.
I thought that was Selen. Who turned out to suck at the game.

>>13597241
Here>>13596879

>>13597124
Collab bans are even dumber, limiting talents from collabing is the stupidest shit ever

>>13597158
I mean, it is easier to fight as antis when you're a corpo vtuber, right? your company will try to help you(hopefully) plus you have supports within the company like your senpai or genmates. I know for a fact that if she's in Hololive, Fubuki will be one of those people who will defend her since she's essentially the alpha bitch of Hololive.

>>13597231
Both are relays, btw
I just want to point that out

>>13597234
She was the first "big" get for Hololive and I don't mean just tits.
>>13597277
Matsuri would love PinkyPop becoming a Holo. Since she's supposedly one of her fav vtubers. At least early on in her career.

>>13597313
Yeah, so their number can get sucked dry by their senpais

>>13597298
that didnt stop hope and council

>>13597315
>alpha bitch of Hololive.
this had me laughing, thanks anon

>>13597300
They both could be carried. Its a team game and a BR on top of that. Either way, I don't think people should look at Botan for crazy APEX skills. You can expect good FPS skills but APEX/BRs should not be around her time if the roommate shit is true.

>>13597354
Selen's doing great despite collabing with all Niji branches while being a newcomer

>>13597190

>>13597313
Naw. It gives them time to establish themselves

>>13597313
Collabing right after debut is stupid. It shows that the streamer can’t even handle themselves and need handholding from someone else more popular or not. Also, you barely get to even know the streamer and they’re already collabing makes no sense. Why the fuck am I watching you, who I don’t even know anything about, playing with someone else I don’t care about when I want to know if I should continue watching you.

>>13597313
Half assed collab bans the way NijiEN does it are dumb.

But committing to a collab ban to prevent senpais from sucking up the tourists that are lingering around as your debut buff is not a bad strategy.

It can also build intra generational unity if they ever decide to go for that.

>>13597313
Collab bans are absolutely needed. The newbies need to cultivate a core fanbase and collabbing with senpais who are more experienced early on will just lead to new viewers going to the senpai.

>>13597313
no, they work.

>>13597411
Or the more established streamer is going to bring fans of their own and give the newbie a boost. It's called exposure.

>>13597381
Yeah Selen is doing pretty great job sucking out Ethyria.

>>13597323
didn't she ignore them a couple times becuase she thought it was a scam? crazy how far they've come

>>13597381
When was her first collab with a senpai?

>>13597409
The ultimate grudgeposting.

>>13597381
Selen sucked up the debut hypre from Ethyria, which just goes to show why a collab ban can be beneficial.

>>13597369
But it did.>>13597231 >>13597292
Not any of them did a bigger number that Botan.
Could this be the first debut in over a year to supass 100k? Maybe but I'm not betting at this because of how sudden everything is.

>>13597439
that's unnecessary. this is hololive, no one is a stranger. it's only a month, chill.

>>13597439
They already have the exposure from the debut buff. You think the ones watching the debut are all tourists?

>>13597439
It won't work out well if the smaller streamer is too new. Give the smaller streamer time to establish a base then you can collab boost.

>>13597439
And that can be done a month later as well when the newbie has established a dedicated fanbase.

>>13597231
Additional numbers:

Debut VOD View:
Mori: 1.5M
Kiara: 928k
Ina: 1.1M
Gura: 4.6M (wtf)
Ame: 1.1 M

Council:
Sana: 890k
Fauna: 1.1M
Kronii: 1.2M
Mumei: 1M
Baelz: 953k

The council girls almost catching up with Myth shows the general incline, despite them not really having a memorable performance like Calli gap moe rapping or Gura's ride on time. Speaking of her, no one will ever catch up on Gura anytime soon, sure the Ride on Time is fantastic but damn her numbers are insane.

>>13597439
Won't work out well for the newcomer, they will be called leeches.

>>13597478
Nah it won't. Its not 2020 anymore.

another thanks to another senpai

>>13597506
holy shit 4.6m

>>13597506
>Gura: 4.6M (wtf)
That comes from people repeating her "a" moment and her singing Ride on Time.

>>13597542
Hololive's box pushing should be illegal.

>>13597422
Having it for Irys is absolutely fucking retarded though, she's literally left to fend shit on her own. Yagoo's black magic lucked out again that their supposedly Vsinger also happens to be one of their strongest streamer as well.

>>13597409
>2019
Damn. Pekora, I kneel. She really did the grind and she's reaping all the well deserved success.

>>13597506
>Gura: 4.6M (wtf)

Only Coco's graduation surpassed this.

>>13597000
Coco came at a time when most days 10K was enough for a stream to be the event of the day and in a couple of weeks her daily twenty minute 6AM show was a regular 20K. That was a crazy time.

>>13597585
In the future, they should debuit 2 singers per gen.

>>13597461
This. Not a big event with many people together but just a collab with a senpai.

>>13597585
That's why she had hers collab ban shortened to 2 weeks.

>>13597374
I have a lot of respect for Fubuki considering all the things she has done for Hololive and the girls. She slapped the chinks right in their faces in the midst of the Taiwan arc by mentioning Coco. Effectively throwing more than half of her income away just to show unity and she stood by Coco.

>>13597585
She only needs 2 weeks to collab with EN1 no?

>>13597461
Kanae APEX

>>13597532
They’re also off western time too so they will only have JP viewers during that time. They would probably hit Gen 5 numbers, maybe a little lower. But could be wrong and they could hit pretty high. I’ve seen it before where we downplay the views and it turns out to be double or triple of what everyone predicted.
Also, purple cunny. Do you know how powerful that is?

>>13597663
Originally she had the 1-month ban.

>>13597585
That's why her collab ban is just two weeks.

>>13597671
Simple, just compare Edengumi debut to Selejo debut. Gen 6 should be to gen 5 what Edengumi was to Selejo in terms of debut numbers.

>>13597585
It was good though. Nobody is calling IRyS a leech and she's carved her way to HoloEN.

>>13597585
Irys' collab ban only lasted a couple weeks.

>>13597188
>IIRC she did mention Master or something but she did say she got carried
That was Selen. IIRC, Botan said that before joining Hololive, she created another APEX account and speed ran it to Master. She said it was really tiring and stressful doing it over a short period, so she has no interest in doing it again

>>13597630
AsaCoco was Coco's BIG thing. Barely anyone streamed at that hour but it was smart because thats before people go to work/school in JP. It also helped get people to know who the hell were these girls in clips being recommended by the algo. Her being experienced in Ark also helped alot because Ark was HOT during that period (see Nijisanji's whole Ark war thing). Anons have to remember that Coco is significant because of JP and have to look at her in a JP perspective. Her perverted shit like pubs/vibes and whatever weren't yabe, it was the drug shit (and the later imagery of something that looked like hanging which is a bigger thing in JP than other places). Also been seeing comments saying Kson isn't pandering enough to EN fans but Coco has never pandered all that much to EN fans. I assume those saying that were just clipwatchers.

So I nearly missed the announcement since it was Thanksgiving and the debut is pretty early. I wonder what percent of fans straight up will have missed it entirely

>>13597459
She got some messages from Hololive claiming that she passed auditions despite not applying.
Turns out someone applied as her.
That might be what you are thinking about.
I don't recall of any Noel stories saying she thought Hololive was a scam

>>13597665
So 2 months after her debut. So she wasn't a newbie already.

>>13597686
This. Irys herself said that she had a collab ban of a month, but then people started getting concerned that it was too long because she had no one to work with for chemistry development. So the ban got shortened to two weeks. It was probably the best decision ENMA ever made.

>>13597804
Well there are a bunch of anons who don't use twitter and if they're not on 4chan, then maybe they don't know.

>>13597715
Its weird that Irys is suppose to be a separate entity but fits so well with Myth and Council. Not like AzKi who just seems out of place that I never seen her with the JP girls or that whenever she isn’t with Sora she’s just sticks out. Probably cause compared to AzKi Irys actually streams quite frequently and she’s enough of a dork to hang with the rest of the dorks.

>>13597409
>adoptions
Funny how Miko and Suisei are both top tier now.

>>13597854
That's just the Hololive ecosystem. As long as you don't go outside the box, fans will always welcome you.

>>13596464
80k at 4 hours 45 min post-reveal

>>13597854
IRyS is more like Suisei in that she's introduced between Gen 3 and Gen 4. AZKi was never meant to be a consistent streamer.

>>13597881
Miko is more like hololives half-sister

>>13597849
If they don't use twitter then they are most probably on the holo subreddit. Never forget how big holo subreddit is.

>>13597854
AZKi barely streams, especially pre-COVID. She and Sora do small shitty performances in JP for money. Hololive blew up in 2020. Before that, it was not strong. She's not suppose to be a streamer but streaming is the way to get the numbers.

>>13597831
Better thank Kiara for that. She was the one that told management that one month collab was kinda dumb for Irys because she debut'd alone.

>>13597854
Irys loves streaming, Azki not so much plus she has a regular job on top of her roommate activities besides also being married.

>>13597804
If they have a Twitter account, they wont miss it.
HoloJP
>51.6kRT
>90.5k Likes
HoloEN
>8.3k RT
>32.2k Likes

>>13597849
A lot of holo mems streaming did talk about it though

>>13597907
That makes sense. I sometimes forget she’s suppose to be a “vsinger”. I’m happy she’s leaning closer to streaming then solely dedicated to music. I like AzKi but her infrequent streams puts a damper on her even though her MVs are usually pretty good and her SorAzKi streams are fun.
It also makes me laugh whenever she gets mention where it’s just Council AND Irys.

So does Susan punish JP subs or is it just a fuck you EN thing?

>>13597777
>Her being experienced in Ark also helped alot because Ark was HOT during that period (see Nijisanji's whole Ark war thing).
It wasn't hot until she brought it to Holo. Nijisanji was directly inspired by the HoloARK boom. Hell, I remember there being three separate news shows by Nijisanji members for a little while in early 2020 that were obviously inspired by hers. It was nuts how hard she owned the whole scene for the first half of the year or so.

>>13598005
Did Edengumi's subs slashed too?

>>13597000
Our numberfagging ways is still way behind the JPfags. They've still got these data from way back.

>>13597804
I'm not even much of a holofag (watch some holo but mostly other companies) and the trailer is the first thing I see when I open Youtube. I'm sure the algorithm is doing its job to inform everyone who doesn't know all the way down to the most casual clipwatcher

>>13593465
Why though?? She have alternate outfit which can be announced whenever she want

HoloX sub difference is finally gapping. lap+ is almost 20k ahead.

>>13597849
>>13597804
There’s also the Hololive reddit. Most fans are normalfags that even without twitter they get info from reddit, which is probably a better info than twitter since those post with announcement are on the front page. Outside of that, I don’t think ENs are the new JP Gen’s target anyway.

>>13598005
Susan slashing subs is just a /#/ meme because Holo faggots can't accept the fact that Youtube is cracking down on Cover abusing subbots

>>13598085
They might not be the targets but looking at the cancer in pre-stream chat they seem to be the majority of the audience.

>>13598049
Niji MariKa tournament and the christmas/holidays special streams. Even pekora will be getting silver on those days.

>>13598042
Well not many people outside of JP cared about Holo pre-2020.

>>13598041
I don't think cover ever payed for ads for a gen debut. Can someone correct me if I'm wrong.

>>13598122
They aint sticking around long but FOMO means they gotta watch the debut.

>>13597907
Not only wasn't she supposed to be a streamer, she, in spite of being a dork herself, doesn't seem to have taken a fancy to playing video games in the first place.

That said, INNK needs to actually create a proper streaming curriculum for her so that her relevance is maintained because doing... whatever it is that she does besides singing isn't enough to make her stand out. Just look at how it worked for Suisei. THAT'S the VSinger meta right there.

>>13597921
So that's what happened. Pretty based, not gonna lie.

>>13598091
So nijikeks can only afford 5k bots when NijiEN debuted? Kek, top company btw

>>13598162
If they do watch it, they will forever be marked as a hololive fan in the algorithm.

>>13598145
The only thing I have seen as Holo ads were the CM for Fes 2, Bloom and I think Sora's concert.

>>13598206
They wasted their funds on the ads for their debut songs.

Pekkers is going to stream after the newbie.

>>13598005
Susan culls sub at a specific time, around 7 to 10 am JST every day based on my observation on councils sub progression a week before they debuted
we'll see tomorrow if they get culled or not

>>13598162
I have her vid on my comp but since she streaming at around 5 or 6 am burger time there’s no way I’ll make it. But I’ll keep it on anyway. I remember I did that for ID2 and when ollie loud ass fucking voice woke me up. I thought I was getting robbed or something.

>>13598204
Kiara does care for hololive. Have a lot of respect for her.

>>13598215
They save money on not having ads and get shit ton of views with word of mouth only.

>>13598005
Cull start on the next day

>>13598330
We respect Kiara now?

>>13598296
before and after the newbie

>>13597831
But that two week period probably did a lot to solidify Irys 4k floor

>>13598296
She turned her debut into her waiting room.

>>13597703
>just compare Edengumi debut to Selejo debut. Gen 6 should be to gen 5
no, Gen 5 should be compared to Selejo, and Eden with this new gen 6

>>13598357
Orange wamon always good.

>>13597000
btw,
Miko 2018/08/28 150
Suisei 2018/06/21 143 ( oldest, non-debut)

>>13598330
>They save money on not having ads and get shit ton of views with word of mouth only.
isn't that THE most organic way to advertise? people telling each other

>>13598389
>Hololive forcibly acquire their fans

>>13598042
It's nice being able to look over past data. Like nobody would believe me if I said Towa then Luna got the highest debut CCVs out of gen 4 and that Coco was dead last by a decent amount.

>>13598122
I don't know why so many pre-stream chats are so shit compared to during stream chats.

>>13598374
Uh... that's what I claimed, yes.
Debuts-wise gen 6 will be to gen 5 what Edengumi is to Selejo.

>>13597000
akua 1500
based on holotalk

Btw, just took a peek at catalog
Funny how the moment Hololive does something big, it buries whatever drama we currently have /here/
Can't even see anything related to VShojo beside their split

>>13598446
This is a hololive board.

>>13598384
Oh yeah?
Tokino Sora 2017/09/07 13

>>13598446
how new?

>>13598414
>pre-stream chats being shit
Probably because kids use it as a chatbox, once the actual stream starts they get mostly washed away. I think Korone's pre-stream last year used to be so bad because of EOPs and spics that she had to disable it.

Your initial numbers

>>13598486
Sora did not debut on YT

https://youtu.be/rE6SWgDkuuw
>pekora baseball
run nijifags

>>13598524
>bird being the last
yeah as expected

>>13598575
>Powerpro
Konami permissions?

>>13598446
Most drama were from discordfags and dramafags trying to spin the situation more than it needs to be. The VS general was getting spam by a bunch of falsefagging samefags and you saw all those dipshits desperately making shit threads about that anituber fuckwit to make him relevant or whatever only for most people to not give a shit once they find out they were all from his discord.

>>13598524
Cunny power strong.

>>13598575
Holo koshien oh no no nijibros…

>>13598575
FUCK YOU KONAMI

>>13598575
Oh no no no Nijikeks.....

>>13598524
Expected

>>13598414
Because the only faggots who chat there are retarded attentionwhores and autistic casuals and use it as if it were their private chatroom. Anybody who watches Holo more often won't really chat in pre-chat apart from a single "waiting" message with the exception of a few entrenched attentionwhores. Also, HoloEN doesn't really enforce that culture, they used to but have basically given up at this point and just roll with it, not that the JPs really enforce it either. The autistic casuals don't know any better since it's not really in EOP streaming culture to not chat amongst each other in chat.

>>13598575
AHAHAAHAH NEXT YEAR KOSHIEN GONNA BE WITH HOLOS, NIJIKEK TIME TO JUMP SHIP!!!

>>13598575
the fuck they got konami perms now ?

>>13598486
Tokino Sora Niconico 50 (37 are well-known)
So the 13 means 13 people she didn't know.

>>13597923
I remember that one pioneer bro came in to defend his oshi and said AZKi loves Hololive and writes songs about how she's able to escape her OL live via an avatar

>>13598575
RIP Nijisanji. This is all they have left and Hololive is taking it.

>>13598557
Niconico but it was brought over to YT as well.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXF1SzAtFj8&t

https://twitter.com/cover_corp/status/1464141557464907782
Time to numberfag Forbes CEO rankings

>>13598575
...sliiiipbroooos...

>>13598414
There was a week between PPtrio and Towa/Luna and the former hit the ground running so hard that the pre-debut hype for the latter built up much higher than it had been for the former. Probably also a part of why the two of them would end up struggling for a good while in comparison but that's another discussion.

>>13598524
Considering that laplus is debuting today it makes sense she's well ahead and everyone else is pretty grouped up.

>>13598575
KONAMI KNEELS
FUCKING POWERPRO

>>13598575
That's the mobile one

>>13598597
well, sure cunny is strong but she is first to debut. People are checking her out first

>>13598446
without Hololive, this board literally wouldn't exist

>>13598690
Metal gear is next.

>>13598575
after the debut? jesas pekora...

>>13598691
>>13598575
>pocket
lol

>>13598579
if they remove that head wing, which reminds of other trash designs, she'd have better chances.

>>13598645
Sora had a whole entire team and staff behind her didn’t she? That’s pretty cool.

>>13598691
Fuck man, why do you get to destroy our fun like this. Here we though they actually got the one niji used for their tourney.

>>13598524
did they beat nijien 3 yet? how long is it gonna take them to beat nijien in general?

>>13598644
Since months ago
https://youtu.be/O0FsV3zpZ6k

>>13598691
damnit

>>13598756
if you look at the title for like not even half a second, you'd know

you Can READ Japanese right?

Guys over at /VSinger/ are speculating that one of the new Holos is related to Boogie Voxx since the zomboi only follows that one. Does this mean we already know who the numbersinger is going to be?

>>13598579
>Cunny wins
>Tall boobed girls loses

>>13598575
Fuck Konami still, retards gatekept holo for so long

>>13598767
didn't know that, thanks anon

>>13598793
no.. I can't...

>>13598763
At this rate they’ll all have 100k by tomorrow and probably at 200k by the time they all debut. The news of them are still pretty recent and most people in JP are just about getting home from work while ENs are about to wake. By day 2 the news for them would spread enough that they will all get way past 100k

>>13598674
Yeah it had benefits and drawbacks.

>>13598725
Oh fucking yesssssss, Peko MGS was so fucking kino.

>>13598797
There is some white female rapper living in Japan who does a lot of weeb rap. She seems pretty close to Boogie Voxx. Hmmmm.

>>13598797
There is one high profile "graduation" recently but I doubt it since she has concert next January.

>>13598797
Nah, it's impossible the chinese zombie girl got in.

>>13598575
https://twitter.com/usadapekora/status/1464146076168966147
It's a sponsored shill stream.

>>13598749
Sora carrying Hololive for a year isn't a joke. There's a reason why all the girls and the stars show reverence for her.

>>13598691
>>13598744
>>13598756
It's on the Switch, came out yesterday.

>>13598916
Oh no no no nijikeks

>>13598916
for the mobile game...

>>13598797
JESUS FUCKING CHRIST IF ONE OF THEM IS CI I WILL FUCKING KNEEL

GET FUCKED FRAN, YOU'RE THE WORST HALF OF BOGGIE VOX

>>13598890
I highly doubt they're going to hire a non-native Japanese speaker since they already have an EN branch.

>>13598797
I hope not. I like the dynamic of Ci and Fra. It’d be sad if they separated plus endless rrats of them fucking

>>13598524
Wait she actually named her channel La+ ?

>>13598797
https://twitter.com/Fra_BGV/status/1464085299454103554
>>13598958
Probably not Ci but vsinger that close to BGV.

>>13598972
laplus
laplace

>>13598870
Don't forget clips flooding everyone and streamers reacting to the debut.

Sora 2017/9/7 50 (Niconico)
Sora debut far earlier than others, so the low number is reasonable

Miko 2018/08/28 150
Aqua 2018/08/08 ~1500
Shion 2018/08/17 1,502
Ayame 2018/09/03 2,622
Choco 2018/09/04 1,882
Subaru 2018/09/16 1,347

>>13598665
is Riku gonna be there

>>13598947
Power Pro POCKET isn't the mobile version, it's the handheld version. Where the hell do you guys come from?

>>13599015
ayame has always been really popular i never get this

https://www.konami.com/pawa/pawapoke_r/

So people can look for themselves.

>>13598894
Mori...

>>13599002
A necessary evil. Better to have all the exposure than none at all, even after the company wasting a buttload of money spamming their ads all over YT. Its also less intrusive.

>>13597921
It was Ina, she talked about it in her members stream.

>>13599028
nijifags coping

>>13599056
You thought it was Watamage doing the black magic, but sike! It was Ayame all along!

>>13599027
https://news.yahoo.co.jp/articles/e24de66ad1db3acdb72c4be9d26da33e50cf45c0
Nope

>>13599056
Kagura Nana’s drawing is pretty damn good.

>>13598575
>shill stream
yagoo gunning for that koshien buff

>>13599113
I swear, didn't he make an appearance before?

>>13599060
>https://www.konami.com/pawa/pawapoke_r/
looks like the same shitty ass baseball game just for the switch

>>13598005
Even VerseN got their SUVs slashed at one point, so what do you think?

What'll happen if Niji loses the right to hold Koshien?

or if they can still hold it but Hololive mogs them?

>>13599137
He had a Forbes interview before, which is where the "forcibly acquire fans" quote is from. Not sure if he was in the rankings though.

>>13598575
Pekora is going to become Konami's girl.

>>13599193
He was in 30 under 30

>>13599015
I thought Sora debutted to 13. Did 4ch lie to me

>>13597777
>AsaCoco was Coco's BIG thing.
not only that, it was HOLO's big thing, at least from an outsider's (am a rinfam) perspective. before AsaCoco I only watch fbk and only knew others from azurlane collab by name but she was the one who introduce me (and dare I say many others, especially EOPs) to the rest of hololive

>>13599137
He was in "30 under 30" this is their top dogs list, his appearance was in November 2020 though so make of that what you will.

>>13599241
37 of them are staff and family, so 13 are just random tourist.

>>13599241
Most of those people were staff. 13 were just normal people.

>>13599241
Look >>13598645

>>13599241
13 unknown people. The total was 50 out of which 37 were like staff , family members and friends.

Got distracted by the new gen and forgot to post yesterday's superchats lol, good day for sankisei since that was all just from freechats

>>13599270
>>13599193
is Yagoo finally part of the big boy club now?

>>13599143
anon, its konami. Of course it's basically the same thing but with more minigames and shit.

>>13599330
Jesas flare.

if hololive actually gets the koshien thing, what the fuck is niji going to do?

>>13599401
Sell merch.

>>13597884
90k at 5 hours 33 min post reveal, seems to be speeding up

>>13599401
trade lize for matsuri

>>13598972
>La+
Probably inspired by Mori. That wigger probably told how La-a is pronounced ladasha

>>13599430
How much did irys have before debut? 100k?

>>13599430
The main audience are starting to get home from work or school.

>>13599471
200k+

>>13599471
200k

>>13599330
What's Rushia's and Kson's casual daily SC?

>>13599220
Konami, Square Enix... Next Nintendo or Sega?

>>13599056
its the character design buff, the cunny will be the one that has it on 6期生

>>13599484
So half an Irys in like 10 hours.

>>13599314
I wonder was Sora’s mom there. She did make a mention of how she wants her mother to see her an idol. Imagine how awkward it would have been to have your parents watching you work in such weird circumstances.

>>13599509
Anon, where have you been? They've had Nintendo and Sega perms for a long time now, and done a lot of shilling for the latter.

>>13599509
They already have sega. Pekora was sponsered to play lost judgement.

>>13599509
Sega already sponsored peko. Those judge eyes and last judgement strem are all sponsored.

>>13599509
Sega's already paid hundreds of thousands to Peko for her playthroughs of the Judgment games.

>>13599509
Have pekoea host the next Nintendo direct.

>>13596781
I guess but your obsession feels like thinking about ants 24/7 and shouting out to everyone on a street about how worthless ants are.

>>13599572
>Pekora is going to become Konami's girl.
Was what I answered to, basically saying Konami and Square bow down to the bunny, so Nintendo or Sega next accepting that the bunny is the best way forward in terms of shilling?

>>13599580
Sega was long time ago? EN played Yakuza 7

>>13599509
Anon… https://twitter.com/cover_corp/status/1332157922617430019

>>13599330
>Millie
How is she? People were shitting themselves over her for being cunny but then she shits herself by going the vshojo route of peepee poopoo. Whats her average view? At least for her she seem to be somewhat known, unlike the other 4 something Livers that completely slipped my mind. I don’t even remember how many there are.

>>13599596
Ah bad reps by me, thought that was a square game.

>>13599642
Korone was shilling Sonic long before that.

>>13599569
No idea anon. Sora doesn't really talk that much about her personal life. She might have said something about it and I might have missed it. Some anon would know if she has said something about it.

>>13599615
kek, but something similar happened when Square enix paid Pekora and Noel to restream the Dragon Quest anniversary stream.

>>13599509
anon, Sega picked Koro-san as one of the celebrity in their Sonic Ring Series

>>13599015
>Ayame 2018/09/03 2,622

which company is going to kneel to hololive next

>>13599719
I’m just going by that stream where she talked about how she told her mother about her dream of being and idol and singing on one of the big famous concert arenas in Japan.

>>13599778
ichikara

>>13599330
Millie beat the chicken in SC!

>>13599015
Migo...

Goddamn, I would kneel so hard if Pekora manages to make Konami kneel and have her mgs streams unprivated.

>>13599865
And now she is kaioken x150

>>13599917
So he's not even in the ranking, just a mention.

>>13599927
Once again thanks to Knee-gas!!

>>13599917
>236 employees
>452.8 million yen = 3.96 million USD
I can't read the rest of the moonrunes. someone please translate but goddamn

>>13599911
Give them those Revengeance permissions

>>13599917
>236
Thought there were 170 staff members in the latest update? Or that's including outsourced workers?

>>13600010
Talents perhaps?

>>13597000
>Noel 2019/08/08 10,218
Because her booba, right?

>>13599987
Just the same bullshit about 50 million subscribers.

>>13600048
Partially, and also because her roommate is famous. Like, defined an entire industry famous