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>>13524447gura is banned here for being a 2view A+ tier
General numberfag sites>https://playboard.co/en/>http://ikioi-ranking.com/>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-rankingHololive sites>https://holo.poi.cat/>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html>https://trackholo.live/en/Nijisanji sites>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly>https://twitter.com/2434rankings>https://twitter.com/2434subscriberTwitch>https://sullygnome.com/>https://twitchtracker.com/>https://stats.roki.sh/Full list at https://pastebin.com/CCfK7mVR
Thanksgiving isn’t a thing anywhere but the US right? JP does weird things with US culture sometimes but I presume EN is going to get a huge hit the next couple days. People have to do annoying family shit and can’t just hide and watch vtubers
>>13523469>>13523392>https://vocaloid.fandom.com/wiki/Weekly_VOCALOID_Ranking#How_points_are_calculatedEssentially, it is based off of NicoNico's metrics, which are somewhat different, but equivalent to certain YT features. We would have to create our own formula that applies to the various relevant metrics in order to properly quantify their score, but the formula itself was fairly simple and easy to replicate/verify since it was public.We would have to use metrics that are easy to obtain for the sake of replication. Stuff like:>Amount of content>Time of content (individual? overall?)>CCV>VOD>Comments>Likes (let's ignore the whole YT dislike debacle since it won't matter in the end)>SCThere are metrics that are harder to obtain because no one is compiling the data or the data itself is obscure to us, so we would be hard pressed to include it. We might also have to make compromises if we want to include other platforms like Twitch, Spotify and Twitter (Holos use it to stream now, dunno about others).
>>13524799Yea, tomorrow is Turkey Day in the US, gonna be a bad day for numbers tomorrow. Friday is just gonna be Friday numbers (weaker than usual on average).
>>13524799the next 4-5 drays are going to be rough
>>13524799Thursday would be a good time for any ENs to do a pandering JP-exclusive stream
>>13525027Really? Is it that common for you burgers to turn this into an extended weekend affair?
>>13524826>aka lets numberfag a bunch of irrelevant metrics because we're afraid to admit that the shark is the most popular vtuber in the world
>>13525113Yeah. Most people travel to visit family.
>>13524799Canada has thanksgiving too but it was last month. There could be plenty of options for EOPs considering how many leafs there are.
>>13525113It's a family holiday so Thursday and Friday are usually considered holidays (unless you work retail).
>>13525204Only 2 leafs in hololive.
>>13525138>(You)Now go back to shit posting in the in your bait threads.
will Vshojo do something for their anniversary? Would love to see their numbers
I didn't see any post regarding this in the previous thread but Gen 3 concert hashtag has been trending for a while.
>>13525424Could be big because of the recent drama
>>13525424They might get 20k if everyone shows up.
>>13525197>>13525220Ah. Yea then it's gonna be baaaaaaad for numbers this weekend.>>13525204Even accounting for it numbers gonna be bad just because people gonna be roped into family shit
>>13525424Well for their warm-up act, Minecraft with Connor and KSon is happening right now
>>13525512I thought Kson Minecraft was rescheduled?
>Sankisei concert free part100k+ guaranteed
>>13525512Mouse has 8.1k at the moment.>>13525673Yes, rescheduled to today.
>>13525746>8kpretty low for a collab
Gura at 13k. She still hasn't played as Dante.
>>13525458Anyone have the nijisanji concert as a comparison?
>>13525825The Collab is melody/kson, ironmouse is just on the server.
>>13525825Not on Twitch.YT corpo numbers have spoiled us.
>>1352584040k
>>13525920For twitter?That seems pretty low.
>>13525901ironmouse collabing with Connor as always8.3k for her6.2k for him
>>13525958Wil Connor interact with Kson?
do you think Victor Entertainment lucked out by signing Sora when she's was relatively new to the scene?
>>13524799advance cope to enfaggots
ENschizo is here
>>13526095yeah, his and Mouse's antics are making her and Melody giggle.Collab basically guaranteed i guess.
Number prediction for Hinotori remix? There's gonna be 3 of them kek1m 1 week possible?
>>13526297OH NO OH NO OH NO KSONBROSIs Connor going to invite her over on Trash Taste and have a foursome with Joey and Garnt?
>>13526331Nah, they will kill each other's numbers.
>>13526297Mouse is still on 8k with kson on. Don't think so
3.4k waiting on kson to start.
>>13526331Nah, that too much releases at once is enough to kill possible numbers, but what is the purpose of this releases though? why didn't she just do like how Mori did it to boost her own song
>>135265685-7k probably. Might filter a lot of jops unfortunately.
Mouse 8.5kConnor 7.3kKson 3.5kKinda low for Vshojo.
>>13527002Vshojo is an actually debuff for kson she got more playing fucking poppy by her self.
>>13525688No way
>>13527251>english only collabliterally filtering half of her viewers>>13527251>casstle crashers>2 povFOR WHAT PURPOSE
>>13525688Doubtful, if only because of online views being split between free part and SPWN (If the watchers were numberfags they'd watch the free part on YT and switch to SPWN for the paid portion, but not all viewers are numberfags so...)
>>13527002>>13527177Bae got 5-6k giving Mio a tour of the en server.
gold: gen 3 concert https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5UouZHdBqUsilver: miko https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDJUmPwxgDI depends if minecraft or cooking, subaru https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLEhg_vK2BY, pekora/marine if they decide to stream after the concert 1ish.bronze: Kuzuha valorant debuff game and not really a hype tournament https://twitter.com/room_vault/status/1463111775302217728 and its valorant my predictions today
>>13527359But anon....don't you love it when you do pointless splits for collabs where you're not going to be paying much attention to chat anyways?!>English onlyWell, this is more for the benefit of Vshojo viewers than anything.
>>13527515If there are three silver contenders, then how is Kuzuha going to get a bronze?
>>13527512Bae somehow ended with the same Views on her vod as Mio.i wonder if the same can happen with Kson
>>13527515his recent valorant tournament peak 25k https://playboard.co/en/video/XNq33Ga5JyA im predicting 25k-32k for today.
>>13527605Kinda nuts, Bae has more global fans than Mio.
>>13526177>Sign a small new talent>They blow upIt's every record company's wet dream.
>>13527590oh right hes not a medalist now kek
>>13527767the vod views were pretty much even for the first hours tough. And it was midnight for most EOPs Mio got an advanatge after Jp prime passed.But by 5hrs they were at 90-100k both of them.
>>13527605I know the difference is not that huge but mio have 140k views while bae have 112k views. So not really the same amount of views no?
>>13527864>>13527927Do you think people watch both POVs or just one?
If Youtube culls live views, what's stopping them from culling VOD views?
>>13527927i pretty much put it here>>13527927Another example is watames collab with sana. 5k ccv but ended with a similar growth on views as Mios. i sitll think the channels of EN girls set to japan has some affect on her live viewership >>13528130depends on the collab
gold medal count so far
>>13528140they do it once in a while, they cull some vod views across the site on some specific days.
>>13527770they probably signed her for pennies too. who knows if Sora will renew her contract with them
>>13528183A Minecraft server tour collab. If people only watch one POV than that means Bae and Mio have around 252k fans by them selves.
>>13527864Could it be explained by Bae having a higher viewer turnover than Mio? With EN's audience more spread out amongst timezones, Bae's in particular could it be burgers going to sleep while other timezones got off work? While usually I wouldn't bring this up, the timeslot here might make sense.>inb4 ENschizo go fuck yourself
Hololive's game show is starting its season 2 today.Think it will do better than season 1?
>>13528442If they get elder ring then yes
>>13528442Im happy as long as I can see more Towa in 3D
>>13524826>samefaggingAssuming that we do make a formula for ranking purposes, I suggest splitting the parameters into 3.Chuuba (C):>Subs>Amount of Content Delivered>Overall TimeContent itself should probably exclude members only content since that is a hard metric to parse. There is also the matter of unarchived/deleted/removed content to account for.Audience (A):>Subs>CCV>VODEngagement (E):>Comments>Likes>SC>"Thanks" (YT's paid commenting thing).>Overall TimeGoing from there it's only a trivial matter to come up with a proper formula that scales well. Notice that some metrics are repeated for the sake of calculus of the parameters since those are just parameters. I don't know what that formula would look like yet though. If you have any suggestions, feel free to let me know.>muh watch timeWe don't have access to the real metric for that on YT. Only the account knows their total and average watch time. Good luck trying to find out.
>>13528246They can prevent VOD views from even registering in the first place like they do with live views, which means that ENs are also suffering from a 25-30% VOD cull.
>>13528321is hard to explain since VOD queues just make it difficult to track. The fact that bae had similar vod growth and views at the end of the collab as mio tells me they were having almost the same eyes put on them. The first hours after a stream ends usually is the views dequeuing form the VOD queue.The fact that a similar thing happens with sana makes me thing the ENs might have an extra filter on their live viewers, my only guess is becasue their content is in English and based on a japanese channel.But who knows i just found it interesting.>>13528442depends on the games
>>13528140They actually do. Pekoras 3rd gen MC hardcore collab got culled multiple times. Gura and Pekora summerfest got culled multiple time aswell. Sportsfest of all pov got view culled too.
>>13528442Depends on the games and talents. If there's Matsuri in it, expect low numbers
>>13528321Fuck you bitch
>>13528686is not common enough to say it happens regualrly unlike ccv problems.
Don't forget they're also streaming it on NicoNico.https://live.nicovideo.jp/watch/lv333613503
>>13528757viewbots lmao.
>>13528755>ENs might have an extra filter on their live viewersThat's been known for ages though, isn't the consensus that it's down to Adblock usage? Actually, another thing I would want to test if nobody has yet is the use of embedded players, especially the use of stuff like jetri and mado because I know a metric fuckton of EOP viewers tend to use that, especially for collabs or when two popular streams are happening at once.>>13528805Well fuck you too ya cunt.
>>13528963It could be happening right now and no one would notice.
I know Gen 3 Concert is almost certain to win the day but Nijifags don't lose hope, there is always a chance to steal the win.Don't shit the thread yet, you haven't lost yet.
So.. How's nijien collab number bros? They playing castle something
>>13529215pretty much selene sucking pomus numbers2.8k vs 1.7ksame pov technically
>>13529215Gwelu ended his stream?
>>13528972Did they also streamed the Gen 1 Concert in Niconico? Because if no then there is a chance Gen 3 will get lower numbers than Gen 1
>>13529287Nope, it's still up on nijimado and the link goes to the stream still (and its still running)
>>13529287Still live on my end
>>13529337>>13529346Oh that's weird, it's gone from Holodex now.
>>13529303Nigga what?
Today in midgetland:>browse YT>check Live filter>pic related pops up>"More spics joining the chuuba streaming game?">go in to check it out>it's a Japanese grill>learning Spanish>actually can read and respond to messages in SupeingoWACTOR...
>>13529453Oh, what the heck? Selected my image but didn't register I guess.
>>13529453WACTOR has been doing an unironically good job of sucking up the midget ES market, they're not going to be Nimu tier but they're not doing bad.
>>13529526>>13529547I wonder if any Cartel leaders watch vtubers.
Fauna at 4.5k and Kson at 4.8k. lol.
>>13529741Kek, the thought of a narco deep in the Colombian jungle, watching a WACTOR VTuber off of their illicit satellite connection and sending supas using drug money is hilarious to me. I wonder if there's a legitimate demographic there that can be exploited by chuubas. If so, how would they even go about doing that and would they be paypigs?
4 overlaps with gura,fauna,kroni and baelz/mumei.
Today's superchats
>>13530162what? bae actually got 1k in SCs? What happened?
>>13530392Alarm clock found
>>13530392her chatting stream wasn't overlapping jp prime time.
>>13530456*fund
>>13530083the Coco and Lamy yakuza paypigs narrative
>>13529215>>13529256>>13529287How the fuck do they decide who streams? Single pov game, 4 players, 2 streams from Selen and Pomu while Rosemi and Enna get nothing?
>>13530578>narrativeThere was at least one confirmed legit yakuza tatsunoko
>>13530083More like they probably would buy out their oshi by force if they can.Actually, I'm surprised I do not hear stories of popular streamers being blackmailed by mafias to get a cut of their donations, in special on the latin market. Literally here on the news there is always one story of a random family getting killed by sicarios for not meeting the quota of money for their mafia overlords.Like imagine if a spic vtuber from latam blows up in donations and some months laters...dissapear...even the roommate.
At this point, I think NijiEN doesn't seem to have any way to incline. Even when they get an upper hand from their competitor playing genshin or honkai, no one would watch them. When they get perms for games that haven't been played by Holos yet, no one would watch them. Even when they advertise songs, no one would watch them. Even when they stealth advertise on Holo subreddit, no one would come watch them. Their cap would still be around 7-8k.
>>13530162November so far>Lamy - $89,557>kson - $83,347>Rushia - $74,929>Noel - $52,761>Kuzuha - $45,260>Miko - $42,671>Mori - $41,335>Fuwa - $37,481>Marine - $36,975>Pekora - $35,892>Ibrahim - $31,361>Kanata - $31,039
>>13531251Pomu 1.7kSelen 2.5kAme's rebroadcast 3.8k
>>13531346>Not incluiding ENT. Cucksonoko
>>13529200>>13529200Not today, though
Gen 3 will get 100k todayDon't underestimate those powerhouse autists
>>13531251They need someone that can go viral. But thing is, no one that NijiEN recruited has ever gone viral before, while HoloEN has 3 recruits who did.
>>13531468A. learn to read, B. tell the rest of those girls to stop being allergic to money
>>13531678Why would a viral girl join Niji instead of hololive?
https://twitter.com/suisei_hosimati/status/1462024388451225605https://twitter.com/suisei_hosimati/status/1460986101963714563https://twitter.com/suisei_hosimati/status/1460795648496713729https://twitter.com/suisei_hosimati/status/1458982160354840580https://twitter.com/suisei_hosimati/status/1452658428262817797a bit late but jesus christ suisei even watame who likely spent a fuckton on her orisongs without getting the album sales didnt shill her archive this much
>>13531468The day finally came that the wigger of nippon fucked enough asian manlets to become Japanese.
>>13531468Mori is there retard, Besides Mori is the only one consistent with SC numbers
>>13531669Put out an absurd prediction.If they did it then as a Holofag and brag.if they failed then act as a Nijifag and shit on them.I see your play.
>>13530918what about Lamy and her yakuza narrative
>>13531782Well, part of it is a reminder to go back and watch it without it being scuffed up, and the other is...why not?! She's proud of it and she also needs that money for more GACHA. (That's an old post BTW, archive's already gone)
>>13531782Why not? That's their fucking job to market their stuff.
>>13531774Preference of culture, might want to do content that might run afoul of Holo restrictions, etc etc.
I just saw a post in the megathread in virtualyoutubers subreddit complaining about people who seethe at cross company collabs.You can see all the niji fans claim the moral high ground .
>>13531693>>13531802>>13531802T. cucksonokos relying on playboard before their monthly ranking
in other news, according to holostats the total views of all hololive channels is now at 4,964,851,502. if it keeps at the current pace it should reach 5 billion in around 4 days
>>13531346>barely beats kson & rushia even with event buffs>certain to take home less than kson after cover's jew cutand they say lamy is successful kek
oh, gen5 schizo is here
>>13532592>Anon fell for the memeNiji is as restrictive as Holo anon, this is beyond the rumored cancelled Kiara and Pomu collab.And if Selen's yesterday stream is something to go by, EN branch is hold on leash.
>gen5 schizo appeared exactly at SEA break timedamn
https://www.excite.co.jp/news/article/E1637563810935/Flare's says it's not straight up a musical, but that it does have some story elements instead of just being a regular concertMarine says it's supposedly more "musical-like" and tell a story through song and dance instead of the usual idol concerts where they just sing stand alone songs, so really I have no fucking idea what to expect.
>>13533066>Selen's yesterday streamwhat happened?
>>13532592Anon the Holo """restrictions""" are just no schizo shit and no political shit.
Gen 5 schizo is probably a MASSfag.
>>13533205NTAhttps://youtu.be/-fPjyUemiwUThe whole Twitter thing was weird but at the same time it fits with all Niji EN activity on it.Is like there were mandated to keep some sort of relationship by force.
>>13531251If you watch Twitch you can see a lot of Vtubers with more than 1k ccv these days. NijiEn's numbers are just fine but I think we should stop comparing them to HoloEn
>>13533703You're not gonna trick me into watching Selen. Just tell the story.
>>13533703Timestamp?
>>13534003>>13534005Timestamphttps://youtu.be/-fPjyUemiwU?t=1669She has to go through her social media and reply to nijis and stuff. She says at some point "I've never taken this long" implying she does this regularly. It could just be her own autism
>>13534239That's just Selen's autism, it's how she's always been
Does collabing with Kson help Vshojo gain more JP fans? Will they like Connor?
>>13532748>virtualyoutubers subredditFirst mistake anonThat place is closer to /here/ than you think
>>13531782Watame didn't shill it because she knows it was disappointing compared to Suisei'sLook at everyone (holos) saying they watched it, watched the archive, or told her that they watched it and loved itThen look at Watame's live in comparisonAdditionally, they don't call her Hoshillmachi Suisei for a reason
>>13534341Her main gachis are nips so no. Honestly, it seems mouse and connor shouldn’t have even been there so those who understand might be pissed for suddenly inserting themselves into a mel/kson stream
>>13534341I can tell that most Kson fans just want Kson to collab with Hololive. There's more excitement when she brings up her roommate than with any other vtuber she collabs with.
>>13534341The think he is a leech>>13534575
Seeing the positive feedback from Kson's collab with Vshojo, I really wish GunRun can at least try to convince Kson to join their company. Any faggots seething about company loyalty can fuck off though, the world is not some altruistic place for people to keep staying the same.
>>13534681>positive feedback
>>13534681>"if i were to go corpo again i would just go back to hololive"
>>13534681Positive feedback this stream fucking sucks.It actually alienating her main audience and her actually en fans.
>>13534681Here's a (You)
>>13534681>positive feedbackwhere did you look?
>>13534756Enough time has passed before then and I don't think she will keep that sentiment.
As a former Coco fan,I want kson to crash and burn without Hololive.Make it clear to the other girls that they can't go on without Hololive.
>>13534801YouTube comments
>>13534838>>13534681Watch Cover's black magic work, and see kson go into a decline if she keeps this up.
>>13534681She would always go back to wherever Kanata is.
>>13534898that shit doesnt even need cover's black magic, its obviously an insanely stupid idea when the majority of her gachis are clearly nips
>>13534874Those are just desperate Vshojo fans trying to make joining Vshojo look like a good idea.We know that JPs barely comment anything, so all of those english comments are sure to be from Vshojo fans.
>>13534898Nah don't worry, she has her own black magic that attract gachikoi.
>>13534681Did the magic fairies tell you this positive feedback?
>holopro5,044,090,283>nijisanji5,695,487,559
>>13535282OH NO OH NO OH NO OH NO HOLOBROS???
>>13535282January 2021 numbers>holopro2,031,408,690>nijisanji3,409,222,103
>>13535282Tick Tock? What's the current growth rate for both, give or take?
>>13535282>>13535427Meaning, in 2021, Hololive erased about 800M difference?That would put their interception point on around .... August next yearTick and Tock indeed
>>13535427monthly total vod views
>>13535564getting mogged while having more than triple the other side's members is just sad.
>>13533143So it gonna be like the MV where they take you on a tour around their world
>>13525424Yeah they did, they got into a big drama fest with nux
>>13535282HoloEN October monthly views > NijiEN overall total views.
>>13535724Yet Niji is still earning more money than Holos rumao
>>13535825sauce?
>>13535564>Nijisanji won OctoberDid I read it wrong? What happened?
>13535825>Says this anon's ass
>>13535825the voices in your head told you this?
>>13535867>>13535885Cover's 2020-2021 report only had them catching up to 2019-2020 Anycolor
>>13535885its 208m vs 287m
>>13535884Look at both again
>>13528442It's your time matomeshitter, bring some hot takes about it from your usual places.
>>13528509Based
Host towa and Melhttps://youtu.be/WZmghCr_nvM
>>13536306Mel has been so active lately that it's scaring me lmao.
don't forget to watch the future kuzuhas and kanaes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zStCQXK8xNI
>>13536535forgot the image
>>13536535>>13536584Ew.
>>13528191could you add gen 3 as a whole?
>>13535022VShojo is popular in Japan tho? They even have a deal with Nippon TV.
>>13536584Better than Sony
>>13532748>virtualyoutubersThat place is nijishill central
>>13536838>They even have a deal with Nippon TV.You are selling VShojo short here, it is NipponTV trying to use their clout to expand westward and not the other way aroundhttps://www.ntv.co.jp/english/pressrelease/20211006.html>Nippon TV, Japan's leading multiplatform entertainment powerhouse, announced today that it is bringing what was a new business initiative into full swing.>The company is expanding V-Clan, its VTuber business, overseas to develop and produce VTuber content. A VTuber, short for Virtual YouTuber, is an avatar YouTuber created with 2D or 3D illustrations.>As part of its efforts to expand the network internationally, Nippon TV is partnering with VShojo, a major VTuber talent agency in North America.
>>13536838being in a group of only english speakers would filter her jops hard
>>13536912Every corpo is bandwagoning on the vtuber thing and virtual entertainment. Can't someone just buy Cover already and have them debut KR/ES? If it was microsoft, they would already have their branches taking care of the gens.
>>13536838>>13536912Here is the english homepage of the NipponTV project that partnered with VShojohttps://v-clan.jp/produce_en/VShojo is unironically larger than the sum of the "300 vtubers" VClan boasts of managing.
>>13536912Yes, VShojo is popular enough in Japan that a Japanese TV network is trying to use them as a gateway to the West. I said nothing wrong.
>>13537077If Cover gets bought out, then their workplace culture might suffer.
>>13532748>r/vytMods there are Nijiniggers, and there's two, not mods but Nijinigger whiteknights, one who would always appear every Niji posts, comments, thing is he's more stealth about hating Holo's, he has Unity as flair. He's Shinobihost. But its obvious who he really bias. Then there's another one, who actively claim Niji as better than Hololive, always, and he's that typical Nijinigger that praise Niji then throw as shade towards Holo. but unlike that Nijinigger Shinobihost, Panda s1 doesn't appear on every Niji posts.Also, the mod whose active there is a Chink leaf, is a big Nijinigger. know whose another Chink leaf? Artia. That should tell you alot.
What does Vshojo even offer when you join their group? You get to label yourself as Vshojo? You get to use their so called defense force thingy? Do they take cuts?>>13537077>buy Cover and go full money making modewill kill them faster than you can spell the words YAGOO.
>>13537206Better management than any nip companies.
>>13537228Their recent drama just showed that they aren't any better.Even being generous to them, it means that they suck at opsec if an outsider like Nux manages to get his hands on that kind of info.
>>13537077that would be kino. imagine hololive hololens mesh
kanata made a simulwatch frame as wellhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9GSfyrZn1w
>>13537315>kept things quiet and protected their talents from doxxing>took down phishing websites within days>acted in concert with law enforcement and cybersecurity experts every step of the way>at no point did they demand their talents issue a public apology to anyoneThey're way more competent than Cover or even Anykara when it comes to defending their talents.
>>13537194I can pretty much recognize all the Nijishills with RES showing how many times I've downvoted them.They must be internally seething that Hololive posts still gain the majority of the upvotes in their sub.
>>13537444Their plans still got foiled because info managed to leak to an outsider.Also, they already put out contradicting statements.
>>13537206Taking cuts would be an instant deal breaker to Kson. Imagine finally having to not pay any form of cuts just to pay them again for little to no benefits.
>>13537503No they didn't, stop believing the bullshit VShojo-antis on this board parrot
>>13537206>western company>buying coverLOL. That's the end of hololive as we know it.
>>13537563Stop defending companies, shill.People should stop bootlicking corpos and start watching indies. Every corpo has proved they are incompetent.
>>13537377Numbers on the main channel will decrease but in a marketing sense, this is much much better.Overlap Queen Risu or Iofi should do a watchalong to redeem themselves. To get HoloID Only Audience (If there are any)
>>13537615VShojo isn't a real company in the first place, they don't behave like the moneygrubbing corpos that Cover and Anykara are you retard.
>>13537615>>13537645/#/ not /morals/Post numbers
>>13537377on the cunt list she goes
>>13537645DYRBI? Vshojo is as much of a scam as Cover and Anykara.
>>13537450They're all petty fucks, they've probably been eternally seething at Hololive since Hololive were nobodies. I know, because i was there during the great seething when Hololive was starting to gain attraction towards EOPs. And that's also how i got gatekept to Niji's fandom. that Back when Asacoco 1.0Right now, everyone, even in the Hololive subreddit's underestimating Hololive's presence in Korea. I really hope Cover makes a Korean branch. I want to see those Nijiniggers in vyt seethe and sour-grape post. I know they will be there, while again, throwing a shade towards Holo.
>>13537688>numbersVShojo are already equal to mid-tier holos/high-tier nijis and this latest attempt by Nux to bring them down will only make them stronger
>>13537754>mid tier HolosI hope you meant "Vshojo" not "Mouse Vei and Nyanners".>high tier NijisDYRB
>>13537754Kek, Vshojo isn't only composed of 3 streamers, retard.Vshojo's overall median CCV can't even beat HoloEN mid tiers, even with YT culling HoloEN's CCV.
>>13537833VShojo's overall median CCV is still higher than low-tier holos like Matsuri/Mel/Aki and way higher than mid-tier nijis that get like 2k
>>13537754Vshojo doesn't have Cover's black magic. Nux's drama and new agency will start the decline of Vshojo as new competitors on Twitch start to rise.
>>13537867Contradicting >>13537754but fair enough. Though beating low tier Holos and mid tier Nijis isn't exactly a high bar
>>13537377Cunt move
>>13537886No one supports Nux, everywhere you go people are agreeing that VShojo did the right thing and were protecting people from doxfags.
>>13537867>Matsuri/Mel/AkiBeing slightly above the low tier JPs is nothing to be proud of, especially with YT cull taken into account.Besides, this low tiers can reach numbers that the bottom tier of Vshojo can only dream of with the right streams.
>>13537867How is that possible? Vshojo's top-tiers can't even beat Holos mid-tiers.
>>13537913>Better than low-tier holos = mid-tier holo>Better than mid-tier nijis = high-tier nijiThere's no contradiction, VShojo are the only legitimate competitor to the Cover/Anykara duopoly whether in the East or the West
>>13537615Speaking of the indie scene, Is Nimu still inclining?
>>13538057Post numbers, dude. There's no way Vshojos are on par with high-tier Nijis.
>>13538057>>13538057>>Better than low-tier holos = mid-tier holo>>Better than mid-tier nijis = high-tier nijiNo. If they get 4k median to beat the 3k+ medians of Matsuri/Aki/Mel, that doesn't mean they're mid tier, that just means they're a slightly bigger fish in the midget pool.If their overall median is somewhere around 7-11k CCV, then I'll concede that they're mid tier Holo.
>>13538041They beat more average gens like holoJP gen 1 and gen 5 all the time so it's pretty clear that they're more than a match for the mid/low-tier holos
Alright /#/, if you're so smart and number-savvy, tell me how I can launch my favorite indie 2view into stardom.
>>13538057High tier Nijis can reach 18k+ CCV.Nyanners isn't even anywhere close to that.
>>13538188Have her accepted into Hololive.
>>13538188Neck yourself. It always works.
>>13537988No one *in the general vtubing fanbase supports nux, the thing is Nux is an anituber and has his own dedicated following that's mostly seperate from the general vtubing sphere and those guys will deepthroat his cock no matter what anyone else says. You can already see them popping up in the various nux/vshojo threads in the catalogue waging war with the nyanners defence force
>>13538188Join Hololive
>>13538197>Nyanners isn't even anywhere close to thatYou're right, she mogs their peak CCV at 27k
>>13538182Where are the numbers? Gen1 and Gen5 are easily better or on par with high-tier Vshojo.
>>13538188Have her leech off hololive like Uto or isegye idol or even be like Saruei and do official hololive merch
>>13538307Maimoto beats that easily, and he's not even high tier.
>>13538188Have her join a corpo and tell them she'll market herself as a cinderella story
>>13538188Sing Hololive songs, draw Hololive girls, play Hololive games, collab with Hololive.
POST FUCKING NUMBERS YOU FUCKING CUNTS
>>13538307She can't even achieve a single 40k+ CCV stream yet without raids.
>>13538057This logic is so stupid. See >>13538160Being 5k median doesn't mean that they're going to be in the same tier as 10k medians you fucking retard>>13538182Post numbers, liar.October median>29867 :: Pekora (HoloJP)>23123 :: Suisei (HoloJP)>22843 :: Miko (HoloJP)>22174 :: Gura (HoloEN)>21484 :: Subaru (HoloJP)>17658 :: Rushia (HoloJP)>17423 :: Aqua (HoloJP)>17066 :: Korone (HoloJP)>16292 :: Noel (HoloJP)>15611 :: Shion (HoloJP)>14662 :: Mio (HoloJP)>13935 :: Botan (HoloJP)>13490 :: Kanata (HoloJP)>12968 :: Fubuki (HoloJP)* HoloJP: 12401>12239 :: Kuronii (HoloEN)>11036 :: Inanis (HoloEN)>10739 :: Nene (HoloJP)>10240 :: Flare (HoloJP)>10164 :: IRyS (HoloEN)>10150 :: Okayu (HoloJP)* HoloEN:: 10120>9566 :: Mumei (HoloEN)>9481 :: Nyanners (Vshojo)>9409 :: Ironmouse (Vshojo)>9318 :: Haato (HoloJP)>8888 :: Lamy (HoloJP)>8845 :: Calliope (HoloEN)>8743 :: Baelz (HoloEN)>8618 :: Watame (HoloJP)>8504 :: Polka (HoloJP)>8417 :: Mel (HoloJP)>8131 :: Fauna (HoloEN)>8097 :: Veibae (Vshojo)>7810 :: Amelia (HoloEN)>7745 :: Luna (HoloJP)>7635 :: Kiara (HoloEN)>5601 :: Towa (HoloJP)* VShojo :: 5531>5396 :: Matsuri (HoloJP)>5354 :: Aki (HoloJP)>4980 :: Sana (HoloEN)>4877 :: Sora (HoloJP)>3858 :: Apricot (Vshojo)>3556 :: Zentreya (Vshojo)>3517 :: Roboco (HoloJP)>3449 :: Choco (HoloJP)Gen 1 would be at 8290 and Gen 5 at 10516>13538307>peakReminder that Kuzuha is a high tier Niji and is not on Twitch
>>13538386that got me thinking, when that hololive game finally comes out, every indie under the sun is gonna play it to chase the clout
>>13538310
>>13538402Holo/niji average in november so far
>>13538402That's average, not median.
>>13538425Can't wait to see a bunch of indies hit record highs like they did on the kusoge Korone game.
>>13538425If they do and it leads into the game being a massive success, I'll forever kneel to Hololive's black magic.
>>13538431
>>13538533the game doesn't even need to be good. as long as it's decent, it will do very well
Why does anybody ever try to compare Twitch CCV and Youtube CCV when they're clearly completely different figures?It's such an odd dick measuring contest everyone fixates on when there's a billion different measures that would give you a more accurate direct comparison.
>>13538604If you go by income then the leaked Twitch data shows that VShojo girls take home more money than holos too.
>>13538188Basically what the other guys said, cover yourself in hololive and hope some of their magic rubs off on you
>>13538431See >>13538402 and >>13538449Botan is easily better than Pink Cat even without raids. There's no way Vshojo is better than Gen 5.
>13538431>13538577>nitpicking comparisons>not even a month's worth of data>max viewers, aka peaks that can be easily affected by raids>is definitely not going to include low tier Vshojos because they don't count for some reasonGo on.
>>13538449Only 17 Nijis in Top 50 (3 in Top 10) despite:>Aqua, Ayame, and Korone not included (since they didn't have more than 5 streams)>Hololive Ch (well it's always not included since it only does premieres)
>>13538431>>13538577jesus fucking christ why nitpick when you literally already have all the numbers here? >>13538402 >>13538449
>>13538636Did any of the girls who made it into Council do any Hololive sucking up themselves in the first place? All I can think of is Bae's eternal Roberu love.
>>13538431>>13538679Last time pink Gura streamed on youtube, she couldn't even reach 5k CCV.
>>13538644>>13538679Because he's a disingenuous fucktard who's only here to push his agenda and not actually acknowledge the facts on the ground
>>13538629Where's the numbers?
>>13538720Even worse, he's an ESL.
so.. Today is niji+holo vs vshojo+twitch? midget number time? because clearly top of vshojo can't match top of either niji and holo
>views split between spwn, Niconico, kanata, kiara, and the main channel>gen 3 enthusiasm is waningIt will slip.
>>13538796oh please its just one delusional touristchama
do they show the ccv on niconico?
>>13538449Colors should be reversed since hololive has a blue motif
>>13538830When IronMouse surpasses Pekora, I will laugh. Remember that IronMouse has been on the incline. Remember.
Here is something to put some numbers in this discussion>Sora mean average in November 2021 so far is 3835With that number she outranks every VShojo other than the top 3>Lamy average in November so far is 8159With that number she outranks every VShojo but Nyanners>Kanata mean average in November so far is 9890With that number she outranks Nyanners
>13538910Hey, gypsy fortune telling about things that will never happen is reserved for Nijis.
>>13538449>3.6 mil sub Vtuber>speaks language understood by 80% of the global population>"most popular Vtuber in the world">only 7th placeOH NO OH NO OH NO CHUMPEDOS, HOW DO WE SAVE GURA???
>>13538425>>13538525>>13538533>>13538594Free advertisement.
Is it just me or ENVtuber fans are kinda fickle? When Nux released the vid, everyone is hailing him as some sort of savior. But then as soon as Vshojo released their statement, they turned on Nux and started cancelling him.
>>13538307Gura doesn't even reach 27k nowawadays rumaoPink Nyanners > Blue Nyanners
>>13539007yes, because most of the vshojo fans are the same breed as the twitter SJWs that work themselves into a seething rage when a celeb didn't endorse LGBT hard enough, this kind of stuff is par for the course for them.
>>13538959We don't, let the fucking EN branch die a pathetic death. We only need JP to thrive. Foreign branches ruin and contaminate the culture. Tenno Heika Banzai! Tenno Heika Banzai! Tenno Heika Banzai!
>13539008>using Twitch peaks to compare to fucking Gura of all peopleLook I know you're stupid but there's a limit to it
>>13539007Pretty sure anyone with half a brain new Nux was overstepping his line when he went all Batman on the doxxers. There's a reason why vigilantism isn't a thing in real life. You're more than likely to screw over the proper authorities than help them
>>13539156Actually no, everyone was praising him for doing that. They only started shitting on him when Nyanners made that discord message thing and then all the indie en vtubers suddenly changed their tune because it turns out that sucking up to vshojo is more important than sucking up to Nux
>>13536306Kuzuha becomes a female vampire and gets mogged by Mel. Now Mel is becoming a male vampire to really show who the dominant vampire is.
>>13538525And then return to their usual numbers
>>13539008She just reached 35k CCV about a week ago.
>>13539208So pink cat makes things worse yet again?
>>13539208Kinda funny when EN indies are taking everything Vshojo members say like they're gospels. What happened to not liking corporate vtubers anyway?
>>13539303Anything for a collab chance!
>>13539267It is a shame that indies never seem to be able to retain any of the viewership from a one-off buff game like that. An indie I follow hit a significant peak a month or so back with a completely blind Nightmare DOOM run and then divebombed to like a fraction of that viewership for all of her streams in other games the rest of the month.
>>13539303A lot of indies want to take their cake and eat it too.They want the exposure that being in a corpo gives you, while not having to work under restrictions and not having to pay a cut.
>>13539294yep>>13539303Anon, everyone who's anyone in the indie en vtubing sphere sucks corporate cock. Disliking corpo vtubers has never been a particularly popular sentiment outside of seething 2views jealous of Hololive's success, because most of them only got into vtubing because of hololive.
>>13539303They want to join Vshojo.
>>13539344Does vshojo Collab with 2views?
>>13539352It's because the real way to build an audience is to have some sort of narrative going on.
WHO WOULD WIN THIS HEAD TO HEAD BATTLE TO THE HIGHEST PEAK?>the notorious Pink Cat, the biggest VShojo star, the millions sub behemoth armed with the full force of the Twitch FrontPage, a well publicized charity stream and the backing of the biggest american vtuber company in the world>HajimeTHE ANSWER WILL ANGER, CONFUSE, BAFFLE YOU AND FORCE YOU TO WATCH HIS 30 MIN LONG RAKUGO
>>13539373>that wall of textDamn, I'm thankful that hololive/nijisanji will never be like this
I was browsing matome and they were talking about shion and fbk pokemon sword and shield archive coming back. So i checked shion channel and its really back. Can hololive play older pokemon now?
>>13537563What's your opinion on this >>13539373
>>13539395Some do, and also they are just generally more lose about collabs in general because they operate like regular streamers do and that means that a collab chance is just one twitter dm away.
>>13539437No idea, but maybe they worked somethign out with the pokemon company. Mori and Kiara did say that this time the permissions doesn't have an end date
>>13539399How does a 2view even do that, though? Most of the narratives I've seen drive streamer growth involve already-large channels in the middle of group content.I totally get why so many people burn out so quickly if they don't manage to break out early on. It actually hurts looking at the kind of number struggles the bulk of Vtubers face, even the ones who look like they're on an uptick.
>>13539274Doesn't count faggotGURA MOGGED GURA MOGGED
>>13539448I don't think any of those people are 2view level.
>>13539448God, I still remember just how much of a shitshow that collab was. Not even the good kind of scuff.
>>13539501Minecraft, or some other kind of long running game where you can go back to it every so often to build up a consistent narrative.
>>13539501>How does a 2view even do that, though?Either join a circle of indies they can get along with and hope they all get noticed at some point.orBe involved in drama.orJoin a company, like what Suisei and Kuzuha did. Suisei has her own Cinderella story from her indie days.
>>13539625Basically become Vshoujo.
>>13538188Contract one of the Holo mama's to design their model and have them use Hololive tags.
>>13539571Speaking of, did anything notable happen to Zen?
>>13539625You do know Kuzuha was already big even before he joined Niji right?Also, yeah, either be embroiled in drama (like Chibidoki) or join small unofficial groups. Or suck corporate dick and hope they notice you
Baelz 10k>Baelz 10kBaelz 10k>Baelz 10k
>>13539776Chibidoki has drama?
I just stumbled upon the tvtropes page for Hololive and Nijihttps://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/WebAnimation/Hololivehttps://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/WebAnimation/NijisanjiComparing them both, the Niji tropes page is kinda barren compared to the Hololive tropes page.
At this point, more people will audition for Vshojo instead of Hololive. With Vshojo, they get the support and even connection to get a 3D model. And if Vshojo wants to go to that route, they can totally rent a studio if talents want to perform on stage in 3D. In Hololive, there's no guarantee you will succeed, I mean, look at Sana, Fauna and Kiara, they get pathetic numbers but on Vshojo, those who work hard will get at least 8k-10k median.
>>13539782I'd hope so, they're making good progress on the game and tis also starting to get late enough that SEA+ AUS is getting back from school.
>>13539625>Be involved in drama.And this is why the indie en vtubing sphere is pretty much a never ending calvacade of petty drama, because it's pretty much the only sure fire way to get some eyeballs on you. Hell, nobody would've heard of Kyutto if some retards hadn't thrown a fit over her loli avatar, and now she's one of the more successful twitch indie vtubers. Bad publicity is still publicity really holds true for indie vtubers.
>>13539832>Artgun 3dYea I think I'd rather fucking neck myself thanks.
>>13540022Kek, imagine thinking Japanese 3D tech is any better
>>13539832u're saying as if 3d is the endgoal
>>13540022Kek, imagine replying to obvious bait
>13539832Nice try 3 Vshojo doesn't represent that they're a successful group >>13538402 can't even beat Sana, Kiara and Fauna Kek
>>13539825I'm pretty sure the niji tv tropes page is only made because hololive has a tv tropes page, so obviously it'd be less well maintained
>>13539807Need I remind you of the Vtuber thighs drama?
>>13540152That's kyutto, not chibidoki.Unless you're refering to some other vtuber thighs drama
>>13540087Gimme More of those hooks, we're at bump limit anyways and I'm booorrrreeeeeed (I'm okay with baitposting and pointless shitflinging once bump limit is reached, I'm more annoyed when it happens at the start of a new thread)
>>13540183Yeah I'm a retard. I meant Kyutto
>>13539747He got a new model, something more robotic.
>>13540284If you're a Holofag, which group do you prefer, NijiEN or Vshojo?
>>13540284Oh fuck off, make your own bait thread if you like biting bait so much. Or better yet, take part in the fifteen bait threads currently infesting the catalogue because of the nux/vshitshow drama and vshocucks running damage control
Any Big YouTubers or streamers that would play the holo game?
>>13540117Nijikeks desperately trying to copy the fan projects of Hololive, yet doesn't have enough fans to do it.
>>13540407NijiEN
>>13539008Anon, literally yesterday https://holo.poi.cat/stream/8qESYeTMQ2w go fuck yourself retard
>>13540407NijiEN because it doesn't have pink cat in it
>>13540407Why would I go for Hololite?At least Vshojo has actual creative freedom and is radically different from Hololive.
>>13539675Or UniVirtuals
>>13540284Do you think anyone in Nijisanji will jump ship to Sony?
>>13540432Some Anons just can't help themselves, and that's why the thread goes turboshit during bait hours and bump limit. Worse now than before since /qa/ is RIP.
>>13540545The what?
>>13540407NijiEN is more reminiscent of HoloEN than the Twitch culture that fills Vshojo, which has always been its biggest turn-off for me. If I had to choose, I'd definitely choose NijiEN.
>>13540573If I didn't want shitposting, I wouldn't have visited this website.
>>13540532Yeah but it has pink cat in it
Can't freaking wait for nux to bring his fans and hell fire onto vshojo. This guys loves drama. Be scared vshojotard
>>13540576Yes
>>13540633You have fifteen fucking threads to shit in, fuck off
>>13540407NijiEN of course, Why would I prefer a group that invites drama?
>>13540573What happened with /qa/ anyway?
This place may be docile and off topic now but when the gen 3 concert slips it will be glorious. Us nijisanji fans are licking our lips at the 35k this will get.
>>13540711It got locked down and now no one can post in it.And good riddance too since it's long since outlived its purpose and basically became a place for retards to circlejerk themselves for being retards
>>13540711It was nuked since they threatened to doxx the mods/admins apparently.
>>13540605Lol NijiEN copied Holos style and themes so of course they'd be similar.
>>13540770is there a niji stream that will beat that today?
>>13540842nice, someone should do the same with jp
>concert on in 20 minutes>only 4k in waitinglelit is too early for itand it's thursdayand anyone who cares bought ticketsand the views will be leached by other membersthis will not win a strong gold if any gold at all. 35k, 40k tops.
>>13540407VShojo because i hate nijifags
>>13540407i hate Niji, but i take Niji anyday than a group of whore
>>13541294>it is too early for it>and it's thursday>and anyone who cares bought ticketsAnon, Suisei's sololive was also under those condition and she still get 42k. Sankisei is more popular than Suisei alone.
>>13541294Pretty sure it will have around 30mins of waiting before the free-portion actually starts.I say it still can go 50k-60k.Besides even if it only get 40k, does Niji have anything that can get 40k+ today?
Did Hololive main ch just fucking drop the new episode of maruyama 20 minutes before the free part as a waiting room? That's fucking numberfag genius.
>>13541403There are 2 leaches and niconico> Sankisei is more popular than Suisei alone.Yes. And they bought tickets.
>>13541436Well, at least it’s a step up from what they done before, overlapping it with lives and collabs
>>13541402Look at the graphs for past concerts, the first 20 min is always a very slow incline as people filter in and either tab out or wait for the first announcement, which causes a faster incline until it the actual free part startsz after which it rapidly inclines again until the free part is done.In other words, wait until the free part starts to start guessing what the peak might be, because before that it's all smoke and mirrors from YouTube's end.
https://youtu.be/17PtoTFm7RgWHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING HOLOLIVE OFFICIAL
https://youtu.be/MfLWYoBdkUE Astrophysics is another fan creator. This is just going to get more people to make free stuff for Hololive.
>>13541535The same thing as usual?
>>13541436Oh they did. Well then, looks like someone's been thinking about when to drop them instead of dropping them head-to-head vs big events.
Noel surely uses anti slip shoes and puts chains in her tyres
>>13541403Retard, Suisie's concert was unwatchable for the first hour on SPWN.It was 10 fps so people were switching to youtubbe.
kanata and kiara having a combined waiting room of 3.5k, say it with me, they are royal cunts.
>>13541294>numbersfagging jops waiting numbersAnon…
This is Gen 3 Concert, all of them are much famous than Coco.I say it'll get 500k easy.
>>13541812I pity (You).
>>13541553Was kinda expecting him to collab with Gura first after she sang his version of Fly me to the Moon, but this is also cool.
>>13541812Same anon here, sorry, I misspoke. I meant 15k. Sorry for looking like I was falseflagging
It won't hit 60k. Mark my words.
Go big or go home. Free part will get 100k
>>13542043> social distancingHow many brownie points Cover is trying to collect from the JP government?
>>13542089Cover needs to make Calli Japanese.
>>13542125No amount of brownie points can make that happen.
>>13542089considering they got the Japan consulate person to pose with their members, I would say quite a bit
>>13542148So about 8k of hololive watchers should just neck themselves, better take out your oshi while you're at it.
>>13542089Should they do Anykara way by not letting screenshot/photo/recording?
>>13542043>Kuzuha concert was way more packed than thiswho were the faggots claiming holo were more popular in Japan?
>>13541436It's some unreleased cuts from Season 1. Season 2 starts next week and is every 2 weeks.
>>13542227That is preshow anon. We still have half an hour to go.
>>13542204>noooo only anykara is evil and doesn't allow recordingsoh no no no looks like cover hates recordings too
>>13542148Are there really people out there with bad enough taste they'd want to listen to Kiara's awful chicken voice spouting "commentary" over the singing of the 3rd gen?
>>13542204photo is okay
>>13542227Social distancing is being practiced. Atleast try to get some context before saying retarded shit.
>>13542259>larping as a retardngmi
>>13542280me
>>13542287>social distancing>cover still pretends the chinkflu is realright, tell me again all about how cover is not in bed with the chinks
>>13542227Preshow anon if this is niji they would be doing audience interview shit.
>>13542259Screenshots have always been fine, what faggot days RECORDINGS have ever been fine? NEITHER CORP has ever been okay with recording.
>>13542315>larpingu're complimenting him anon
>11 minutes in>still a flat screen
>only 20k watchingNo gold. No gold. No gold. I'm a hololive fan but I can see the writing on the wall for us. We're not winning.
NIJIKEKS DON'T LOOK
>>13542259I just wanted to post this again.
come on, the numbers aren't even high yet
>>13542335Does this retard think Cover rule over Japan or something? i dont mind, though
Where is the ccv number on https://live.nicovideo.jp
>>13542388Already higher than Mito and almost passed Watame.
https://twitter.com/yasuguraharuto/status/1463788439644479490?s=20you think people are gonna ask for his signature kek
>>13542388Oh no no no nijikeks thought Twitter was your realm
>>13542335nice try zhang you aren't getting away from paying reperations that easily
>>13542449oh shit
https://twitter.com/Banabatorutetto/status/1463790445620723714
>>13542259I will bite just because I am bringing numbers along for the ride.
>>13542449my kneels...
>>13542335the chinks are the ones who pretend covid is gone and dead because they slayed it.
>suddenly Pekker
>>13542492that's a really small venue. why didn't they get a bigger one considering how popular gen 3 is?
>>13542479>>13542542covid exists but there's zero evidence it's lethal and even if it was it can be cured by ivermectin anyway so social distancing rules are retarded
>>13542661Shut up and pay reperations chink
>>13542661Gods please don't start this here.
>>13542638No need for now. Once covid is over, they can easily rent THE Tokyo Dome. And streaming tickets are same price so they are not losing anything. All of the merch is going to sell out anyway.
>speaking starts>Instant incline occurs Every fucking time. Well, let's see how high it gets by the end, because it's going to spike again once the actual concert starts.
>>13542712what is the capacity
The girls start saying the normal preamble about rules and shit, Ahoy starts playing in the background and numbers jump 10k.
For anyone that cares.
>>135427593100
>already peakedoh no no no holobros looks like loosing today
>>13542712Gen 3 actually have decent female fanbase huh.
>>13542779I wonder how that corresponds to the CCV.
If this gets even 40k I will be shocked. 50k is too much. 60k is too much for a free part of a concert.
>>13542801How much of it is due to NoeFure I wonder ...
https://youtu.be/T17JbKs2-y46 hrs 170K views
>>13542793You're not even managing to get to the level of shitposting.
https://twitter.com/nakiriayame/status/1463792853675507718This is like a scheduled tweet at this point. I was shitposting but I really did not think that her original song will be the only video on her channel this month
>starting>only 32k
Why's pekora at the center?
This event will not be Big because Risu isn't streaming over it
>>13542935ace and the strongest
>>13542935Are your asking because you don't know or because your baiting? I wonder...
>>13542896She better be a god at this point.
>>13542960kek, where is the HoloID special when we need them
>>13542986The same meme that Ayame only overlaps with a big event to suck some viewers.
40k get
>>1354283040k cleared.
>>13542712Is that also related to a social distancing? Or they just weren't able to sell all tickets?
GAS GAS GAS
>>13543092can you even see the AR at the angle?
>>13543092You can't see anything from that angle so they just emptied those seats.
Not even gonna reach 1m views in 7 days at this point. Pace flopped horribly after the first day.
>>13543092Considering they had to hold a lottery for the tickets I don't think they had trouble with selling them.
Already passed Suisei's sololive.
First gen live :18:05 JST ~5540018:10 JST ~61230
>>13542343I record all concerts I buy. I do not wait for gay blurays.
>>13543137>Not even gonna reach 1m views in 7 days at this pointSpeaking of failing to reach 1M, WTF is going on with Contrail? It’s looking like it’ll have its 2nd month anniversary and not there yet
probably reach 60k but not 70k
always kinda surprises me how tall pekora is
>>13543137It's a really forgetable song. Not horrible, but really not the kind you'd want as a first 3rd gen single.
>>13543303At least it's not Blue Clapper.
50k Get
>>13543331What's wrong with Blue Clapper?
>>13543303It's a generic anime OP song for a CGDCT anime. Fits the bill, honestly.
>>13543374>Inb4 Gen5 schizo enter the chat
>>13543374It's forgettable trash that hurts the ears.
>>13543374It doesn’t even clap
Is there a chance that Pekora will stream today? She must not be satisfied with this kind of numbers.
>>13543303You mean model height or real height?
>>13543262I mean of it's for personal use, that's not too much of an issue due to the wait. If you're going to go and upload that, I disapprove but w/e.
>hot limitseriously Peko and Noel are just too weak for this song
50k+12.5k watchalong>60k get
>50k CCVSlipbros...
>>13543409>It's a generic anime OP song for a CGDCT animeYeah, but even among those you have good ones, catchy ones, original ones and simply bland ones, and this one is definitely on the bland side.
>>13543433I thought all gen 3 are doing free talk after concert? All Separate streams though.
>>13543463kekis this how this gonna be? kuzuha vs 3 stream
First AI check checkpoint reached
A FUCKING CINEMA
Nijisanji AR concerts are more immersive, no wonder this is slipping.
50k then 49k because of the skit then 50k struggling to rise
>>13543331At least Blue Clapper is very powerful as an ear worm. You can't say the same for the 3rd gen song. Hell, even the title is forgetable. I literally can't remember what it was even though I listened to it several times already.
We have 12.5k held hostage by chicken and leech
First gen live :18:15 JST >65000
>>13543458This is 4chan you big baby. Not Twitter.
>>13543521i see no number in this post? are you lost nijinigger?51k rn
This is not a fucking liveI have been scammed
>only 51kCan totally slip.
>>13543516yeah i noticed that too.
Is it just me or is this below the standard of quality of the recent FREE lives that holo has been putting out recently?
AHOYAHOYAHOYAHOYthe one that destroy maimotoAHOY AHOYAHOYAHOY
>>13543655Mel set the new standard
>>13543655This is below Suisei and Watame for sure.
>>13543484I am one the idolfag side of things, so I am willing to cut them slack given their company only recently became and actually profit making business. It isn't easy or simple even when you can throw money at the problem to make it go away.I wonder if true thematic songs would be well received though...
>AHOY>51k to 53k jump
We have a new tool!https://vrabi.ml/
>>13543599To what though? Isn't the only thing niji is putting up today Valorant tournament? No way that brings 50k.
>>13543675kek
>>13543655Cover hates pekora its to be expected
>>13543736The King
>>13543724Senchou ... I kneel
>>13543675OK, AHOY today surpasses Maimoto too
>>13543736>imagine doubting Kingngmi
Atleast Marine got them to 55k. It was struggling at 51k before AHoy
>>13543727Oh shiny! seems to combine a lot of the good features from other places.
55k get
55k now
56k.threading the 60k
ahoy is making it incline
>>13543826bronze boy? Or was it pewter?
>>13543826>imagine calling silverboy kingngmi
>>13543655Wait, you guys are ACTUALLY watching the stream?>HOW QUAINT!Thought the idea was just watch the numbers
>>13543825KEKmaimoto bros...
I don't know if this is prerecorded or not but it break the "live on the stage" illusion.
>Kuzuha 56k free part mogged
>>13543584
>>13543928>incoming "it took entire gen 3 to defeat king" cope
>>13543907You're in too deep for me anon. Numberfagging for shit I don't care about is beyond my comprehension.
>>13543876>Rushia, Danchou, Flare>group songThis is actually a good way of boosting the least known for music, honestly.
One thing I always wonder during these lives on the main channel. Why hasn't cover added memberships and added all the cheer emotes from the talents channels?
>200 people on cytube >40 live viewers on the test streamSUSAN WHY
I guess 57k was the peak, decent but i really expected much more.Now then, can it win Gold today i wonder?
>>13544022>why hasn't cover done something competent yet?do you really have to ask?
>>13543947is that the full concert?
>>13544010It's been inclining the whole time you dumb fucks. Susan just stalled it at 51k
>again stalling at 57k
>>13543876albino kiddo.
>>13544045I mean, it's like they hate money.
>>13544034Now, how many of those have Adblock? What about regions? TEAT PARAMETERS ANON, I MUST HAVE THEM.
>>13544019What the, I didn't even mean to reply to anything
>>13544039anything else interesthing happening beside it?
>>1354403960k for Marine's unison
Concert is okayish. Bushiroad sponsored concert > hololive concert so far.
>>13544051無料パート
>>13544090>>13544022monetizing the main channel seems more jewish than usual
Will that be the last song for the free-portion?
Slipbros...
>>13544130I think they are prioritizing the online viewers with this kind live
>>13544072only 100kniji got more
Daily Oricon has updated. The only vtuber album that got in top 30 was Reflexion, it ranked only twenty-seventh… that’s a steep decline. You can also go back a day or two and see sales, I guess it’s what they call "preorders"? Is it considered a first day then? Anyway, yesterday ranking shows that Reflexion sold 7459 copies (ranked third), that’s worse than even Raindrops (they had 8-10k sales first day), to compare their previous cover album sold 21550 copies first day. I suppose an overall drop in popularity and just a worse lineup have affected the sales severely, plus the album’s focusing on old songs instead of mainstream songs like the previous one. By the way, their albums are the only ones that have ONLY a physical release.Sora’s cover album ranked twenty-fifth first day in a daily ranking, Kotone’s cover album took 29th place the same day. That’s surprisingly close, I guess it will be only 1.5-2.5k overall sales for both of them. Oricon anon is needed for exact numbers.
OH NO NO NO NO NIJIKEKS
>>13544154It last 1hr rather than 30min
>>13544022>monetizing main channel
>didn't hit 60kWelp, didnt think this would get less than the Gen1 free part watchalong, that's for sure. Yes, I'm aware that more people may have tickets, etc etc etc, but unless Cover felt like releasing those we only have a CCV head-to-head to compare.
>>13544022they aren't a jew
>>13544155Well. Niji does, not saying it's a good thing just that it's a good option. Would bring bucks no questions asked.
Why is Rimuru in there? That blue light sounds like him
snks...
>>13544223Beat Kuzuha concert at least
58k>>13544223was gen1 also on NND?
>>13544200So now length is important? But wasn't important for all mogged posts about Kuzuha's 17 minute free part?
>>13544196>can’t even beat thanksgivingNGMI
>>13544034Link?
>>13544130I mean the performers also better. Suisei's and Watame's sololive are way better than this.
>58.5kWhat a disappointment. Marines birthday live with gen 3 had 120k. As a NijiEN fan I worry about gen 3's health.
>>13544257turn off low latency mode, assuming you're watching on spwnIf you're watching on NNDogshit well tough luck
>>13544072doesnt mean anything
Okay, now the ball is firmly in Niji's court I'm always prepared for a surprise
>>13544315Pekora got these numbers streaming that trash Korone game
>>13544284i mean the longer a stream the easier it is to get viewers.
>>13544277I'm pretty sure that all of the concerts are streamed on NND if they have paid tickets. Dunno about free concerts though.
>>13544223Watchalongs might have affected the numbers a bit.But yeah, knowing what we know about Gen 3 and their 3D live numbers, 58k is quite low so there's likely a significant amount of people who are watching on SPWN. (The 3D announcement stream of this very concert got 94k on the same channel).
>>13544312God I want to strangle the angel and deep fry the chicken.
>>13544315maybe you should worry more about wave 3 flop
Main ch debuff
>>13544361Fes1, Fes2, and Bloom was on NND and SPWN. Aqua's sololive was on NND, Suisei and Watame's sololive was on SPWN.
>>13544394Maybe you should worry about giving (you)s to the obvious shitposts.
>>13544394More like Gen 3 flop
>>13544191>Reflexion sold 7459 copies (ranked third), that’s worse than even Raindrops (they had 8-10k sales first day), to compare their previous cover album sold 21550 copies first day.Oof... and here I posted 2 weeks ago that it was guaranteed to sell well so why doesn't Cover do the same lol
Was definitely expecting more. But 58k should just be above slippage territory.
>>13544455cope
Are they going to do the aftershow on niconico or somewhere else? Would be interesting to see for numbers.
>flop genhahahahaha
>>13544459In before Pekora comes home, streams some obscure thing and gets 60k.
>>13544184screenshot for the free part?
>>13544191>to compare their previous cover album sold 21550 copies first dayPost the proof. Prismatic colors sold 24834 copies first week so I find it hard to believe that most was sold on the first day.
>>13544456is mostly lowlivers so any chance for it to sell good was gone.
>>13544498pekora set a stream five minutes before the day ends
>>13544191>Reflexion sold 7459 copiesWhat the fuck that's really low.
hey mad chinks, how would you feel if i told you that ayame is in that concert?
>>13544191At least reflexion has Nui in it so that +1 copy from me kek
This would be a neat AR concert but doesnt work that well as a normal one.
why are burgers like this?
>>13544612MASAKA!
>>13544544
>>13544643did they woke up or something? some minutes ago it wasn't even in the top 10
>>13544643>#4 on eopstick tock Lebron
Ame's new clip: 180K in 7 hrsImagine Gura just uploads her past 3D smol moments.
>>13544191The third rank on daily album chart only sold 1900 copies so Niji, Sora, and Kotone sold way less than that.
>>13544600So she has basically one hour to get a higher peak. Since the daily stops the count at 1 am jst. i highly doubt it will happen.
>>13544801I'm pretty sure all gen 3 set by now are just free chats for the concert
>>135448011 hour is more than enough
>>13543705The vast majority of hololive orisongs are standard idol theme songs. It gets really repetitive, especially if you already watch other Anidol stuff like im@s. Only the more music focused holos have more unique stuff like Suisei, Watame, Towa Calli...
>>13544880forgive them, they weren't around during the other holo concerts
>>13544191Guess Sora's popularity didn't grow that much since her previous releases.
Too much talking fuck this, cover pls collaborate with bushiroad again
>>13544778That's the previous day anon.
DAMN, Valorant surely is numbers poison. Selen is smart and seems to be staying clear of that
>>13544991They did say that this is more like musical stage than a concert...... But fuck if I pay for the venue ticket I'll be mad.
>>13544973Maybe it’s only me but I wouldn’t bother buying cover albums.
>>13544991They aren't Suisei or Watame, it doesn't matter who sponsors the concert
>>13545052sultan...........
>>13545063Eh, I don't know. I've paid and I feel that it's worth it so far. Some songs, a bit of bants, top notch.
>>13545052What the fuck is their management doing? Anycolor really needs to remove these incompetent people.
>>13545165please understand, they're getting filtered by all the Japanese
>>13545165We have different expectation I guess
>>13544600>>13544498You guys really think Pekroa will just leave and starts a stream after their month practiced concert?Pretty sure they'll celebrate and eat together after the thing.
>>13545174The only point of management in nijisan is to make sure the talent pay their dues to the company. They provide no support or suggestions, only there to extort money.
Lebron mogged
>>13545165Wish they seriously worked on their dance reps.One of the things I enjoyed the most about Watame's concert is that she was doing actual choreography during her songs.
>>13544991It's 3rd gen, anon. What did you expect? Most people aren't coming for them because of the singing.
LEBRON DOWNTICK TOCK MHASPOILERS
>>13544927>Music focused>TowaDoesn't she only have one original after nearly two years?
>>135451993 of the girls have schedules streams later today.And no, I was only jokingly suggesting that if this would slip it would be to Pekora mogging her own gens concert by doing something no one would expect.
>>13544801It took marine 15 minutes to beat maimoto
>>13545246Pekora was dancing better in Mel's live. Flare is actually good at dancing but the coreography makes her look like a stiff. Noel, Marine, and Rushia are lost causes though.
Twitter hashtag already passed Suisei.
>>13545312Fair I guess. It's just that her voice forces her to sing more unique stuff
>>13545232us is racist
>>13544927>music focused>towamore like CR cup focused
>>13545370Rushia's singing is good. Her body is incredibly weak so she can't dance a lot to begin with
>>13545246I mean, you have to tune the choreography to the lowest skill level, otherwise it just looks bad.You could see Pekora's growth in Mel's live compared to how she danced previously. And even marine doesn't look like a white man dancing during this (not claiming that it's a stellar performance though).
>>13544927haachama has pretty unique songs if you count the short songs that she wrote the lyrics for. the rap songs, not the parody songs.
>>13545307>18k >135kOkay, how the fuck is Twitter trending works
>>13545557Check clears (or ideological alignment ticks) Twitter mod press button, TREND!
>>13545557Famous or verified accounts probably counts as a higher traction value for trending.
Finally live after one hour.
will this count as a Reine win?
>>13545246Doesn't Rushia have some actual health problems that stop her from doing strenuous activity?
>>13545762your thumbnail rep...
>>13545762LMAO how
>>13545762>1KBholy shit
>>13545762oops
red means women btw
>>13545792reine funded the whole thing
That's a lot of woman
>>13545864>>13545853how?
Woman ratioSankisei > Suisei > Watame
>>13545878flare
>>13545864>>13545853So there are women watching Hololive.Or these are the girlfriends of the sankisei fans attending?
>>13545878I'm not a woman but I want Flare to ride my face and Noel to peg me. I still wish we had horny threads.
>>13545962But we do?
>>13545878Flare is relatively popular with women.
>>13545962We do actually.And split threads also post a lot of lewds of their oshi.
>>13545997also rushia has many female fandead
>>13545864>>13545853is that a 60-40 ratio? at least we are sure they are not fujos
>>13545609You really think there's some ideology behind manga spoilers trending? C'mon>>13545557It's a AI based so there's no clear answer to that. Most likely, it's a lot of engagement (likes/replies/retweets) in a short timeframe (so 100k tweets in a day might count for less than 1k tweets in 1 second). Also, the algorithm is highly biased towards Roman letters (most likely due to a English based-training set) so random English words are more likely to trend than Kana or Kanji keywords.
>>13545853>>13545864Really? I don't think I saw that many women on the photos posted before.
How many did Suisei's concert get?
>>13546297130k-ish
>>13545853>different color based on sexkek, imagine this show in Amerikek. A tranny comes to watch and given a blue one
>>13546358These switch colors anon.
>>13546158>AI basedTwitter has been forced to admit it ‘sometimes’ flips a toggle. Basically we can never be sure why
>Emperor H-Hal… ;-(
>>13546425Anycolor not paying enough money to have them flip the switch for their events.
>>13546425It's always smart to have an AI override.
>>13546467
>>13546467Time to search a new game
wow, marine handsome voicemaybe that's why there's so many women
Numbers
when's Kuzuha starting?
The concert may have been a mixed of recorded and live, but it's better than the AR niji puts up with. I don't want to watch uncanny looking virtual streamers on an AR stage, I want to watch an anime concert.
>>13546663How is AR bad? And how is it number-related?
>>13546663holocope if i ever see one
>>13546493Anon, it’s not “AI” with an “override button”. These companies aren’t dumb to allow for the most prominent space in their sites to be user generated. Twitter trending is a curated list. The list of potential choices may be automatic and maybe it even is on a “gets published if not overridden” basis but it is a curated list nonetheless. And more than enough cases trends just “disappear” and then the purposefully misspelled alternative to the hashtag starts trending, only to disappear again. In other cases hashtags with low thousand posts trend for long without getting any significant traction. Twitter trending is a curated list. YouTube trending (and the videos that appear in that page) is a curated list. Google News front page is a curated list. And these companies would be dumb it that was not the case.
>>13545312People get fooled because she really leaves her mark on her covers and 3D lives. Error is basically her signature song even though it's a cover and she produced what was basically a remixed bloom concert for her birthday and in person live band for her anniversary.
>>13546740show us screenshots nijikek kun, it's been a while the last time i watched stickman
>>13545955>So there are women watching Hololive.That vast majority of all viewers are male but their is outliers
Even more than the King, Kanae was one of the biggest casualties of the demise of APEX.
>>13546824Towa-sama i kneel, why most of them love her.
I wonder if all the apex viewers just switch to watch actual pros instead. Ceo of apex, imperialhal still has his usual numbers but then again tsm fanbase is different from your usual fanbase.
>>13546827His pokemon stream gets good numbers.
List of silvers so far >2021-11-01 :: 31541 :: Pekora (Hololive)>2021-11-02 :: 37603 :: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)>2021-11-03 :: 38754 :: Shion (Hololive)>2021-11-04 :: 24261 :: Korone (Hololive)>2021-11-05 :: 35056 :: Pekora (Hololive)>2021-11-06 :: 45785 :: Pekora (Hololive)>2021-11-07 :: 36533 :: Marine (Hololive)>2021-11-08 :: 49804 :: Aqua (Hololive)>2021-11-09 :: 35038 :: Pekora (Hololive)>2021-11-10 :: 48573 :: Marine (Hololive)>2021-11-11 :: 47363 :: Shibuya Hal (merise)>2021-11-12 :: 31268 :: Pekora (Hololive)>2021-11-13 :: 46496 :: Suisei (Hololive)>2021-11-14 :: 34569 :: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)>2021-11-15 :: 35839 :: Pekora (Hololive)>2021-11-16 :: 25194 :: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)>2021-11-17 :: 28113 :: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)>2021-11-18 :: 55333 :: Haachama (Hololive)>2021-11-19 :: 29346 :: Hajime (Nijisanji)>2021-11-20 :: 51413 :: Marine (Hololive)>2021-11-21 :: 83690 :: Pekora (Hololive)>2021-11-22 :: 31246 :: Toya (Nijisanji)>2021-11-23 :: 56025 :: Marine (Hololive)>2021-11-24 :: 51269 :: Pekora (Hololive)
>>13545955According to Joysound karaoke :Marine Ahoy has 67% male 37 % female, probably one of the highest female percentage.
>>13546984dunno about everyone else, but i watch the same apex vtubers i usually watch. they've just been playing less apex recently.
190k at the end of the concert.
>>1354716363% male 37 % female
>>13546824File name gets me everytime
>>13545853how do you know?
>>13547221uhh, watching the concert?
>>13547127Pekora winning both gold and silver this month it looks like.
>>13547169>they've just been playing less apex recently.Because Respawn done goof’d with server maintenance and things went sideways for the newest seasons. That custom that Selen would play with Kanae and server problems prevented may have happened in the same moment a last straw situation occurred for the community at large. Who the fuck would want to be fighting to go from the lobby to the game half the time?
>>13546824bros i need a jk kenzoku gf
I thought the minecraft collab was hyped?
>>13547221They literally said : man please use blue and woman please use red
>>13547281vshoujo is dying
>>13547281"hyped", you mean by some self posters?
Horrible concert. gen 3 will recline after this.
Two streams coming up soonSui Pokemon and Shuba Bus Simulatorhttps://youtu.be/_hrMQTcNG0Ehttps://youtu.be/uLEhg_vK2BY
>>13547301More like fanbase for Kson not into that shit yo.
>>13547281mel was low energy and cono and mouse entered and even tough kson was trying to be social the shut her to the side.she just wanted to build a house in the server and mouse and conor just dragged her to fight mobs.
>>13547281Funny thing is that it truly looked like an elaborate ruse to get Connor to collab with Kson, given that her plan was to spend some time with melody and Ironmouse and Connor just happened to barge in. I would expect better numbers
>>13547325Strong streams incoming, easy over 20k
>>13547281>trusted shitposts
>>13547281Kson lost her Holo buff a long time ago.Only meme review gives her a partial buff.
>>13547281Trusting shitposters? Ngmi
>>13547338I can't wait for TT with k*on as guest. The whole board will be unusable.
>>13547338>Ironmouse and Connorlook at these fucking leeches, he's dying for another clickbait
>>13547325Weak streams, bronze contenders atleast.gold gen 3Silver kuzuha Bronze sui/shuba/miko
>>13547281Anon it's only hyped by the retarded dramaniggers trying to push Kson collabing with vshojo as the next big yab
>>13547272that's customs, isn't it? i mean there's less rank grind streams and what not.
>>13547400Meh, people said the same about Calli and it was really underwhelming. For more than a vocal minority likes to shit on TT the overlap of this community with anime ensures most people won’t care about that
>>13546824Where are the female hoshiyomis
>>13547415But Kuzuha will be playing Valorant. It may be a tourney but it is known for being a number poison.He may not even get bronze today unfortunately
>TOP WINNERS OF THE DAY - NOVEMBER 20211) Marine (Hololive) - 34.7k - Karaoke2) Pekora (Hololive) - 42.5 - Minecraft (Sport fest prep)3) Chronoir (Nijisanji) - 48.9k - Announcement4) Pekora (Hololive) - 36.4k - Rhythm Heaven5) Luis Cammy (Nijisanji) - 39.4k - 3D Debut6) Miko (Hololive) - 81.5k - Minecraft Sports Fest7) Miko (Hololive) - 69.7k - Sport Fest Totsu8) Pekora (Hololive) - 57.6k - Evil God korone9) Subaru (Hololive) - 44k - Evil God Korone10) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 56k - Kuzuha Concert Free Part11) Pekora (Hololive) - 55k - First FFXIV stream12) Fumi (Nijisanji) - 38k - 3D Debut13) Rushia (Hololive) - 81k - Outfit reveal14) Marine (Hololive) - 81.8k - Subaru's High profile case15) Lamy (Hololive) - 83.3k - Birthday 3D16) Pekora (Hololive) - 31.8k - Ape Escape 317) Marine (Hololive) - 34k - Bus Simulator18) Pekora (Hololive) - 82.5k - Minecraft Mod with Marine19) Towa (Hololive) - 47.5k - Mario Party20) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 95k - Splatoon Tpurney day 121) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 88.2k - Splatoon Tourney day 222) Subaru (Hololive) - 31.5k - Pokemon Challenge (vs Okayu)23) Pekora (Hololive) - 57.7k - Karaoke Relay24) Noel (Hololive) - 56.9k - Birthday Totsu25) Hololive ch (Hololive) - 58.6k - Gen 3 Concert Free Part
>>13547400they literally left her left her alone at the end>"so where am i right now">no one responds>"oh look its 3pm i should end the stream cya">oh by ksonit was frustrating to some degree
>>13547455fucking with me
>>13547321
>>13547461>>13527515It will peak 25k-35k silver medal tier
>>13547462Are you the real listanon? because there is a chance you're a nijifag trying to jinx it so it may slip
>>13547415>Silver kuzuhathe delusion
>>13547439Gigguk/Joey would always cut off Connor when he was about to say something stupid with the Mori episode.
>>13547520the slip only works with nijis
>>13545246Watame's one is going to be hard to top in terms of what you mentioned, and also her crowd interaction even though they could only clap.
Wait, no announcements??
I have no idea why people here keep talking about the concerts quality. It's literally irrelevant. Fans will eat up anything anyway.
General numberfag sites>https://playboard.co/en/>http://ikioi-ranking.com/>https://vrabi.ml/>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-rankingHololive sites>https://holo.poi.cat/>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html>https://trackholo.live/en/Nijisanji sites>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly>https://twitter.com/2434rankings>https://twitter.com/2434subscriberTwitch>https://sullygnome.com/>https://twitchtracker.com/>https://stats.roki.sh/Full list at https://pastebin.com/CCfK7mVRDon't mind me just posting this for the next thread
BTW, in the realm of midget numbers...
goddamn still no new concert costume for 3rd gen . This will probably just feed the Cover hates Pekora rrat more.
>>13547845
the concert was literally just they moving in some beach with jungle on the background for the whole time, 3 is gonna get shit after this
>>13547845>185thats better than the pink one at least
>>13547684>vrabiKiara, No!
>>13547885>3 is gonna get shit after thisrumao
>>13547462>58.6kThat's slip tier.It's only 8pm(20:00), it is not a win yet.
coping and falseflagging already? is like they don't have faith in their livers anymore
eops are confused early morning
>>13547885me on weekends
>>13547845Isn't this their ace?
>>13547885Damn chinks.
>>13547885>some beach with jungle on the background >for the whole timepoorfag
>>13547924No their ace is the loli
>>135475281. Kadokawa is in bed with Cover2. Connor is a salty retard3. They have to keep drinking Cover's load whether they like it or not
>>13547914That’s not the regular anon, it’s someone jinxing for the lulz. Joke is on him, should have added>THIS DOES NOT SLIPfor maximum jinx energy, plus a couple of kneel pics
>>13547947Cute. Is she getting 500 then?
>>13548083oh no no no nijiblokes, it even beat kuzuha in twitter trends
>>13538188Use Uto tactics
>>13548083KEK, there goes your ESL population nijibros.
>>13547959>korni has almost 4k memebersthat is as much as kaira
>20k Suichan pokémon>14k Suba bus simulatorWhats the current top looking like?
20k get
>Aqua>Free talk streamJesus christ aqua play something, even slither.io is fine just feed your fanbase something.
I was thinking, do corpo vtubers claim payments from their company for buying equipment/games? I can understand the iphone purchase for the live2D, but for games, are they really using their own money for it?
>23min>Lize helesta genshin only got 6.3kWeak when compared to the other side getting 14k on a simulator game
>>13544927Wait, Aki has 4 original songs right?that puts her ahead of how many other holos?
>>13548326that's weird, she usually gets at least 9k for genshin, what happened?
Where is kuzuha bros? I thought he will stream?
>>13548326is genshinthat shit is like apex right now
>>13548083At least tweet eubros, you guys wanting EU hours holo right?
>>13548386Genshin is shit now, just like apex
>>13548419Too many rabid burgers on twitter. Staying as far away from it as I can.
>Getting less than her usual in Genshin because its a collab
>>13548298Either the publisher gives them keys like most streamers or they buy it themselves. It provides security since the streamer owns all their own stuff they stream with except for obviously the company's proprietary software.
>>13548419Kek. Don't watch streams when they're available, don't engage in social media, don't Superchat. No wonder Cover has basically shelved the idea of hiring another euro chubba.
Newfag here, why is EU hours dead hours anyway? Are Europeans just that ignorant on vtuber stuff|?
* ongoing streams top 10, unfiltered *
>>13548509Suityan strong!
https://forbesjapan.com/articles/detail/44507
>>13548386Not a solo stream.
>>13548482Targeting euro as a whole instead of specific countries is an exercise in niche farming and not terribly effective overall.
>>13548546>>13548546And? I thought people like Rion. I know I wank it to her.
>>13548531lmao counting every sub as a unique user
>>13548531Where is riku nijibros?
>>13548566Well it seems usual Lize audience in Genshin don't like her as much.
>>13548462Well, there's an unknown aspect whether they really own their accounts because they are required to make new accounts for their job to prevent main account dox. for example, steam. If they buy games for an account they personally don't play, isn't it a waste of their money whereas they can buy a game on their work account and ask for a claim later? In return, the work account is a property of the company. I wonder if it's the case of claiming money from the company, how much budget does Anykara willing to fork out for NijiEN to keep playing new games. Other than that, it's hard to believe that all the livers from nijiEN personally own a switch unless they are required to.
>>13547858I mean Pekora sound like she say no to a lot of Cover order. It wouldn’t be a surprise if they hate her for that
>>13548531nice shot
>>13548586Try searching the site falseflagbro
>>13548606K*on still owned her Coco Minecraft account.
>>13548606They keep those accounts after leaving hololive as evidenced by coco. I have no idea why you think a group of primarily gaming streamers like nijiEN all owning an extremely popular gaming system like the Nintendo Switch to be difficult to believe. Did you mean something else because that statement makes no sense to me.
>>13548660Im legit asking a question. I want to see if he's there.
Subaru gonna play Pokemon with okayu againDouble chart for Subaru today
>>13548628Suisei fight a lot with the management but they don't have problem with her.
>>13548482School/work during the prime streaming hours.
>>13548765They probably want her to be an Aqua type but she refuse since pekora enjoy streaming.
>>13548628>Doesn't yuribait>Doesn't make short clip/ green background>Doesn't want to interact with plebbit despite say want to do it in Coco meme review>rarely collab to boost other Holo numbers except fucking Towa and Botan>Doesn't help much with shilling>The only way to make Pekora appear in Hologra is using her own model without her consentI can list more but in short her solo performance is against Cover's policy which is Loving family and teamworks>
>>13548765Suichan loves idol activities though while Pekora doesn't want to do the same route that Aqua did.
>https://twitter.com/XMOMENT_esports/status/1463804344864632832Towa is now an Ambassador for tourney watchalong lolBotan's commentary would have been impeccable
>>13548841
>>13548841>Doesn't help much with shillingThe fuck you on about?
>英語圏向けのタレント「がうる・ぐら」は、チャンネル登録数354万人(21年11月時点)とVTuberでは世界1位を誇る>VTuberでは世界1位を誇る。You heard it from the nips, Gura is the #1.
>>13548897>by forbes japanI kneel, I cannot contest this one
>>13544643glad holo has such a big following in the US (granted that would be where the main EOP following is). EN did its job of funneling EN viewers to JP
>>13548897Gura is so dominant it convinced this entire thread to disregard a key youtube metric because otherwise Gura just wins by default
>>13548897I'm not going to make a definitive statement but she has an argument. Her outrageous VOD growth, song views, and ceiling for big events kind of prove how strong she is. Unless you are obsessed with live CCV I don't see how you can even argue that Pekora is bigger.
>>13548932t.
>>13548841This the numbers thread not the shitty creative writing thread. Surely Cover hates Pekora!
>>13548889Square Enix doesn't count since she only give a shit about FF and DQ
>>13548966Anon. She's been part of all the major advertisements for Cover. Are you high?
https://twitter.com/shirakamifubuki/status/1463837548359282689Next guests for FBK TRPG: Mio and Ayame
>>13548966It's okay to admit mistakes
>>13548991Those also don't count! Why? Because I say so!!
>>13548897That one shark with 14k CCV today?
>>13548966> Square Enix doesn't count Put it on the list!
>>13549001 (me)And Shuba too*
>>13541999My prediction was true for gen 3 concert.Next, Kuzuha won't win today
>>13548897doesnt count
NIJICOPE LIST>building a sub-culture>slow and steady growth>merch sales>no longer showing off their achievements on their page because they have shown more humility>percentages>tournaments don't count>fortune telling>volume>averages>total CCV during primetime>trailers are ads>Google trends>Holo EN was a desperate gambit>Holo's forcibly acquired audience vs Niji's natural growth>stop picking on midgets! fight someone your own size!>pit Vshojo against HoloEN when you're losing>pit HoloEN against HoloJP when you're losing>pit former Holo against HoloJP when you're losing>Holobubble is bursting>foreign buff/global audience bad, muh local Nips good>YouTube Japan trends>Apex will only get more popular from now on!>flexible creative freedom>Holo's restrictive management will cause them to eventually graduate>Cover uses bots>Hal is honorary Niji>Kson is honorary Niji>Ui is honorary Niji>Most vtubers are Nijisanji like and Nijisanji is part of greater vtuber community>Nijisanji fans are more passionate about their livers and will leave dislikes to show their engagement>Sponsorships are retarded>Hololive's merch and sponsorship bad because companies underestimated them which means that they don't care about the cheap collab>Koshien is not an event>Nijisanji is solidifying their other markets while keeping their strong home market>Pre-recorded lives are technically premiers and shouldn't count>Cover is just lucky to have clippers and algorithm on their side>Hololive invented unicorns>Watchalongs are POVs>Nijisanji isn't a corporation, it's a family>Each Twitch viewer is equivalent to about 1.5 Youtube viewers because Selen flopped her first Twitch stream and Selen never flops>By promoting the main channel they create more general Nijisanji fans which will then trickle down to the smaller livers down the line>Evil God Korone is an event game>Subs to growth ratio>Subscribers don't count>VOD views don't count>Everything that brings a big audience is a special event>>Niji is mainstream in JP, which is more important than Hololive's international dominance>Holo's main channel kneels to Niji main channel>Square Enix doesn't count
>>13547914Not today, anon>silverboy + valorant
>>13548482it's really hard to get into the European market due to how many countries/languages/cultures are on that continent. Kiara is mountain German yet she primarily speaks English and Japanese.
>>13548949You are talking as if CCV is the only thing that pekora have. She have watch hours, SC and sponsorship, she probably have the highest total vod views this year.
>>13548841>Gets cover permissions and forces Titan game companies to kneel>Sets trends for games that bring high numbers for other members>Gets Hololive collabs with normie companies just by mentioning them>Regularly sets up streams to funnel for big eventsWay to out yourself as clueless retardThis was my captcha btw
>>13549064missing some things thereNIJICOEP LIST>building a sub-culture>slow and steady growth>merch sales>no longer showing off their achievements on their page because they have shown more humility>percentages>tournaments don't count>fortune telling>volume>averages>total CCV during primetime>trailers are ads>Google trends>Holo EN was a desperate gambit>Holo's forcibly acquired audience vs Niji's natural growth>stop picking on midgets! fight someone your own size!>pit Vshojo against HoloEN when you're losing>pit HoloEN against HoloJP when you're losing>pit former Holo against HoloJP when you're losing>Holobubble is bursting>foreign buff/global audience bad, muh local Nips good>YouTube Japan trends>Apex will only get more popular from now on!>flexible creative freedom>Holo's restrictive management will cause them to eventually graduate>Cover uses bots>Hal is honorary Niji>Kson is honorary Niji>Ui is honorary Niji>Most vtubers are Nijisanji like and Nijisanji is part of greater vtuber community>Nijisanji fans are more passionate about their livers and will leave dislikes to show their engagement>Sponsorships are retarded>Hololive's merch and sponsorship bad because companies underestimated them which means that they don't care about the cheap collab>Koshien is not an event>Nijisanji is solidifying their other markets while keeping their strong home market>Pre-recorded lives are technically premiers and shouldn't count>Cover is just lucky to have clippers and algorithm on their side>Hololive invented unicorns>Watchalongs are POVs>Nijisanji isn't a corporation, it's a family>Each Twitch viewer is equivalent to about 1.5 Youtube viewers because Selen flopped her first Twitch stream and Selen never flops>By promoting the main channel they create more general Nijisanji fans which will then trickle down to the smaller livers down the line>Subs to growth ratio>VOD views don't count>Everything that brings a big audience is a special event>Niji is mainstream in JP, which is more important than Hololive's international dominance>Holo's main channel kneels to Niji main channel>Gen 3 should be left alone so Nijis can be properly compared to Holos>Square Enix doesn't count>Half the copes in this list are actually Holofags falseflagging
>>13549144NIJICOEP LIST>building a sub-culture>slow and steady growth>merch sales>no longer showing off their achievements on their page because they have shown more humility>percentages>tournaments don't count>fortune telling>volume>averages>total CCV during primetime>trailers are ads>Google trends>Holo EN was a desperate gambit>Holo's forcibly acquired audience vs Niji's natural growth>stop picking on midgets! fight someone your own size!>pit Vshojo against HoloEN when you're losing>pit HoloEN against HoloJP when you're losing>pit former Holo against HoloJP when you're losing>Holobubble is bursting>foreign buff/global audience bad, muh local Nips good>YouTube Japan trends>Apex will only get more popular from now on!>flexible creative freedom>Holo's restrictive management will cause them to eventually graduate>Cover uses bots>Hal is honorary Niji>Kson is honorary Niji>Ui is honorary Niji>Most vtubers are Nijisanji like and Nijisanji is part of greater vtuber community>Nijisanji fans are more passionate about their livers and will leave dislikes to show their engagement>Sponsorships are retarded>Hololive's merch and sponsorship bad because companies underestimated them which means that they don't care about the cheap collab>Koshien is not an event>Nijisanji is solidifying their other markets while keeping their strong home market>Pre-recorded lives are technically premiers and shouldn't count>Cover is just lucky to have clippers and algorithm on their side>Hololive invented unicorns>Watchalongs are POVs>Nijisanji isn't a corporation, it's a family>Each Twitch viewer is equivalent to about 1.5 Youtube viewers because Selen flopped her first Twitch stream and Selen never flops>By promoting the main channel they create more general Nijisanji fans which will then trickle down to the smaller livers down the line>Subs to growth ratio>VOD views don't count>Everything that brings a big audience is a special event>Niji is mainstream in JP, which is more important than Hololive's international dominance>Holo's main channel kneels to Niji main channel>Gen 3 should be left alone so Nijis can be properly compared to Holos>Square Enix doesn't count>Half the copes in this list are actually Holofags falseflagging