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>NO ORIGINALITY!
>NO CREATIVITY!
>PLAY MINECRAFT ONLY!
>PLAY APEX ONLY!
>PLAY NINTENDO GAMES ONLY!
>PLAY GACHA FLAVOR OF THE MONTH ONLY!
>YOU EITHER CONFORM OR YOU GRADUATE!

>> No.1344903
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>> No.1345074

>>1344903
How original. Did your boyfriend make that for you?

>> No.1345115

>>1344873
KORONE
/thread

>> No.1345182

>>1344873
>YOU EITHER CONFORM OR YOU GRADUATE!
Haachama...?

>> No.1345258

>>1344873
noel has played nioh but you are too casual to watch it and only complain. just kill yourself loser

>> No.1345313

>>1345258
Noel is allowed to play other games, because unlike haachama she was willing to what is necessary

>> No.1345346

>>1344873
weakest rrat of the week

>> No.1345354

>>1345313
the fuck are you talking about.

>> No.1345374

>>1345354
He's saying Noel did the needful.

>> No.1345761

>>1345374
The things?

>> No.1345829

>>1345374
The no one?

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>>1344873

>> No.1345850 [DELETED] 

>>1345374
The sucky fucky paizuri?

>> No.1345885

>>1344873
>Doesn't understand trends

>> No.1345911
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>>1344873
I know most people here are psychopaths incapable of empathy, but have you ever thought that maybe... people just like watching Minecraft and APEX? Choco and Roboco would've graduated a long time ago if that weren't the case.

V-tubers aren't about the game; they're about the personality playing it. Minecraft and APEX give the chuuba the chance to interact and chat with their audience, which is the entire point of streaming, and something that scripted schizo music videos are incapable of providing.

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>>1344873
>YOU PLAY GAMES
>THAT'S WHAT YOU DO
>WHAT DO YOU MEAN SKITS?
>WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT STUPID LORE YOU KEPT TRYING TO PUSH?
>NO MORE SCARY STUFF RETARD
>THINK OF THE CHILDREN
>YOU CONFORM OR YOU GRADUATE!

>> No.1345952

>>1345911
What happens when someone doesn't want to play APEX or MC?

>> No.1345957

>>1345952
they play games they like?

>> No.1345960

>>1345911
There is a place for apex, minecraft etc, but do we really need all of the hololife vtubers playing them?
What's so wrong about a few of them experimenting with other content?

>> No.1345980

>>1345957
What happened to haachama then? Pekora?

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>

>> No.1346003

>>1345952
botan plays bf r6 and cod. so they can play some game like that as well

>> No.1346013

>>1345980
Pekora played games from her favourite franchise, Dragon Quest.

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>>1345952
They stop playing them? Just see most of EN for an example.

And what happens when they DO want to play Minecraft and APEX? Well apparently, they get shat on and shamed by Haatons just for playing the games that they like.

>> No.1346044

>>1346003
What if they want to make lore videos instead of playing games?

>> No.1346071

>>1346044
They made lore videos up until they decapitated themselves.

>> No.1346087

>>1346044
youtube woketards wouldnt allow japanese light novel tier lore when its in english

>> No.1346103

>>1346071
But that isn't against youtube rules.

>> No.1346112

>>1346044
i mean ruschia did it

>> No.1346116

>>1346103
https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/2802245?hl=en

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>>1346044
Then they do it on their own channel. With their own art, and their own characters. AWAY from Cover's payroll. If Yagoo doesn't want to pay his workers to make gory horror videos all day, then he's not obligated to.

>> No.1346126

>>1345911
While this is true, first impression is very important. Even someone like Suisei who dont do GFE shit and dont pander to any demographics knows that. No one will be invested to spend their time on a chooba when all you could tell them is they do cooking streams or that they play a ton of Apex and is Diamond. The only way you can get someone invested in a personality is clips, but they wont guarantee long term viewed if the clips don't match the exact person of the choobas.

>> No.1346135

>>1346103
its all about your sjws, mutt. when its in english it becomes "problematic". youve censored and banned that rapey anime now wheres its even consumed by high school students in japan. why do you keep ignoring your woke culture.

>> No.1346142

>>1346116
There's a nice thread explaining how you are wrong right over here >>1335983

>> No.1346165

>>1346135
No it isn't. The hentai videos are still up. The scary videos are the only one affected.

>> No.1346166

>>1346142
It is against YouTube's rule, which is what was originally asked.

>> No.1346198

>>1346166
It isn't. Read the thread anon. Youtube is okay with this stuff.

>> No.1346207

>>1346037
Mikotits...

>> No.1346209

>Korone plays old RPGs no one knows about
>Botan plays Trials and COD, WoWS
>Luna is playing Dragon Quest and Yakuza 0
>Pekora played Dragon Quest
>Subaru played a horror game
>Mori did Guilty Gear streams
>Gura played Terraria

Also:
>ASMR
>Karaoke
>Free Talk
>Members only content

But nah it's just Apex. Minecraft and Nintendo

Take your meds shiznigger.

>> No.1346213

>>1346198
then why was suisei demonetized after putting something like "murder" and "robbing" in her GTAV stream title?

>> No.1346216

>>1346198
Read the link, anon.

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>>1346126
>first impression is very important.
If that were the case, and I was new to Haachama's channel, and the first thing I saw were her schizo videos, I would've done a 360 and walked away, because I hate horror. If it's true that this is something she planned on ending and going back to normal afterwards, then that's a terrible first impression, because it doesn't represent her average content at all.

>> No.1346237

>>1346165
scary? isnt that "self-harm”. mutt sjws cant handle shit like that when anime characters do it cuz they have to "protect our children" from evil japanese.

>> No.1346257

>>1346232
And other watchers love horror, it would equal out in the end. She literally hit a million just before the end

>> No.1346282

>>1346237
Honestly I can see why the whole suicide thing may have been too much. Like I'm sure she got approval from Cover to make them but I am about 90% sure some EOP niggers flagged it through Youtube and Cover just went "Fuck it, if this keeps up you'll lose your channel, get rid of it"

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>>1346209
Nonono anon, they HAVE to all do schizo horror AMVs just like Haachama now. If they're not all doing self-decapitation videos every month, then they're UNORIGINAL and UNCREATIVE and should graduate immediately!

No, I don't care if people actually like watching them play the games they like! If they're not doing EXACTLY what my oshi is doing, then they're not entertaining people correctly!

>> No.1346303

>>1346292
this but unironically

>> No.1346312

>>1346292
No one actually sane ever said or meant that
Pretty sure it's implied that it would be creativity in any form presented, as long as its their own

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>>1346292
Imagine being that kind of a nigger.

>> No.1346352

>>1346282
yeah thats probably true. she and her menhera series could get a green light from cover. its fucking obvious. and then some mutt sjws reported it to youtube and it, as usual, got censored.

this level of menhera shit cant be a problem in japan.

>> No.1346384

>>1346292
I would actually like to see more hololive members make skits. And no, whatever silly 10 second video where they make funny face or say something random does not count.

>> No.1346392

>>1346209
Mio and Miko also hosts variety like collabs. They are always fun. Like the holo fest, holo kindergarten, mama competition, haiku competition, etc.
Haachama was in most of them.
They are all very creative.

>> No.1346396

>>1346352
Yeah, that's what I figured. I don't think Cover will go full Youtube since they let them get away with a lot to begin with. I think that Cover didn't want another Mio situation so they just got ahead of it.

>> No.1346403

>>1346384
>And no, whatever silly 10 second video where they make funny face or say something random does not count.
kanatach...

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>>1346257
>And other watchers love horror, it would equal out in the end.
Your point? It's still a terrible first impression either way. If her schizo series attracts horror fans, then all that'll do is disappoint them once she inevitably stops doing them.
>b-but I like both!
Then you're a Haaton, and you'll like literally anything she puts out as long as her name is stamped on it. First impressions only matter with new viewers
>b-but she hit 1 million subs!
When she was only 20k away at the start, growing 5k a day from her pre-schizo content. No shit she still hit 1M; that's inevitable for most Holos at this point. Just look at how Rushia hit 1M, and no one gave a shit.

>> No.1346427

>>1346417
>implying she would have stopped for good even if the main lore series was over

>> No.1346432

>>1346352
I don't think all of the content were being reviewed real time. Maybe they were reviewed by her manager after the fact. We know haachama kept adding content on her stream up to the last minute.

>> No.1346436

>>1346282
Considering Haachama's videos would get categorized for YouTube kids for some goddamn reason (Bitch Made Pasta was considered for children) I can see why they though pulling the plug on the series was a good idea.

>> No.1346454

>>1346232
To you its a terrible first impression, but she is miles away a better shitposter connoissure than Coco, so she knows what zoomers or people her age likes. And unlike other EOPs, her EOPs pays, and EOP fanbases who are willing to pay for vtuber entertainment are really rare. People can judge her content all they want, but she is unironically a genius in terms of generating content out of thin air.

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>>1345952
They play Tetris

>> No.1346481

>>1346282
Less if EOP niggers, more off dedicated Holo schizos, they have been reporting Holo streams long before Holo is a thing overseas

>> No.1346492

>>1346392
I think it's a broad generalization anyway to say most of the girls aren't trying to be creative in some way
Think it has more to do I feel with Haachama having lived on the edge and cultivating in a sense almost a rockstar image the last month, so to some people going from that to the others likely comparatively made it seem tame/safe
I don't really blame anyone, as I find it a natural thing to happen, albeit that's all the more reason not to be obnoxious about it and try to compare a lot, as it makes the fanbase look bad

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>>1346292
A wise Nousagi poster? Who is your REAL oshi?

>> No.1346538

>>1345952
They get graduated.

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>>1346454
If that's what you think. All I know is that a series I really didn't like got BTFO'd to oblivion, and the other girls I watch don't feel pressured to copy it anymore, so I might be too high on life right now to judge clearly; even if I'm wrong, I'm gonna go out feeling like a winner anyways. Let's just wait until she comes back before we decide which side of the fanbase won.

>> No.1346659

>>1346198
https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/6162278?hl=en#zippy=%2Cexamples-non-exhaustive%2Cguide-to-self-certification
>You can turn on ads but only brands who opt in will run ads
>Real-life or dramatized violence that results in serious injury where the aftermath or impact is visible and present such as blood or gore scenes, bones visibly broken.
>A dramatized long-form video content with a short, ultra-graphic violent scene
>“Dramatized” refers to scripted content such as movies or fictional settings including animated content.
Turns out that posting animated videos showing hangings and decapitations can get you demoneyized

>> No.1346978

chink thread

>> No.1347071

>>1346659
>You can turn on ads but only brands who opt in will run ads
>implying this means it is against the rules
>implying this means that it is wrong
Wow. Coverfags can't read. What a surprise.

>> No.1347093

>>1346432
then she couldve changed the series to private, and fixed the "sensitive" part and reupoloaded it. its really forced when those dumb eops totally ignore youtube and amerimutt sjws whove censored too many japanese contents like everyday. menhera shit cant be a problem in japan. what she did is merely an entry level menhera entertainment for japanese.

>> No.1347218

>>1346659
Oh nonono anon, you aren't supposed to be literate!

>> No.1347662

>>1347093
Almost all of the relevant parts are sensitive though.I don't think it will work. It's better to move on. She was already at the last part of it anyways so that means changing everything she has released related to the lore. It was better to just scrap it. She has to reinvent herself anyways one way or another. I'm guessing she's gonna go hard with the HoloEN0 thing hard now since most of her viewership are EOP.

>> No.1347689

>>1346544
I don't think there was any pressure for the other girls to copy her. The girls are more or less just sometimes asked what they thought of what haachama was doing or was just confused with how to address her.

>> No.1347697

>>1345074
Uhmmm you're chinese

>> No.1347739

Plenty of Holos are playing different games that others aren't, and several of them have carved out niches for themselves, like Korone with her endless supply of retro, to the point of critical acclaim that even an OG composer for an ancient-ass retro game came out and wrote a track just for her, out of his own volition. Haato's "creativity and originality" is literally fucking FNAF-tier creepypasta garbage, and she fucking posts R18 fanart reviews on YouTube, something that anyone with a brain understands is not good for business for an idol company. But okay, everything's totally in decline and YAGOO is literal Hitler etc.

imagine being so overdosed on dopamine and having such burnt-out receptors that nothing except completely deranged rrats gives you pleasure anymore

>> No.1347836

Ofc she and her eop fanboys should move on. She also should start to collab with other jp members again. To be honest her eop pandering shit is just boring as a content cause her English skills are simply poor. If you were Japanese you would have to see her as a cringy westaboo trying hard to be "cool" and express chuuni tier flimsy identity crisis with easy shock values like cringy weebs on the west.

>> No.1347849

>>1347662
>>1347836

>> No.1347879

>>1344873
get new content, zhang

>> No.1347881

>>1347836
Now see, while I'd agree usually, the thing that makes it more fun than just westaboo, is the European classical vibe imo
Cringy to some still I understand, but I actually thought it was based

>> No.1347885

Why does /vt/ bootlick Cover so much? This doesn't happen nearly as much over at /jp/? Are we surrounded by r/hololive redditors in this board?

>> No.1347899

>>1347836
I unironically hope the new Haatons stays if she decides to drop the zoomed shit, since her old content is just as good.

>> No.1347947

>>1347899
I'll go with whatever she does
Speaking as a relatively "new Haaton" (I liked her before this arc, but 2020 is still new I'd assume), I'm way too into her as a personality at this point that I'd enjoy anything she does almost
I really like her MC streams. Perfect for an afternoon nap

>> No.1347975

>>1347885
>Are we surrounded by r/hololive redditors in this board?
This is correct. Most of them are even newfags. Disguting.

>> No.1348018

>>1347885
Maybe if you levelled your criticism at Hover without using a stupid girl with bad content as a flagbearer, it would be more acceptable? All companies are shit, and Hover does plenty of crap, but the argumentation in this thread is mostly laughable.

>> No.1348027

>>1348018
You clearly don't belong here. Go back phoneposter

>> No.1348111

>>1348027
I hope for your sake that you're operating on like 7 layers of irony, since your post is literally the equivalent of a downvote and you clearly seem to want to be in a community where you can just suppress any opinion that doesn't adhere to that of your echo chamber circlejerk. I wonder if there might be such a community for you.

>> No.1348183

>>1344873
CHINK DETECTED

>> No.1348708

>>1347739
Haachama had 2 songs written for her because of her horror arc.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zf1epRIQHGQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbHq3d_arXw
I think the second one is pretty good.

>> No.1349233

>>1344873
This is why I watch Marine. Someone asked why she wasn't playing that gacha game that everyone else is. She said she has too many games she already wants to play and won't play games just because everyone else is (unless she's already planned on playing the game i.e. Undertale)

>> No.1349276

>>1344873
You must be one of those Chinese ultranationalists.

Taiwan is a country

>> No.1349297

>>1344873
Zhang

>> No.1349319

>>1346292
Based

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>>1347739
Imagine believing the "muh dopamine burnout" pseudoscience, now I have a date with my disgusting oshi

>> No.1349416

>>1345848
It's them except the nintendo games since he's poor and doesnt mmhave money to get switch.

That's why he goes here on 4chan to hate on things because him not having any of the consoles remind him of his shitty life, his lack of achievements in life and his minimum wage job that barely feeds him yet he is obese because he never moves a muscle and eats only ouly foods.(he may even not have a job and just asks his folks for money.)

>> No.1349614

>>1344873
You can blame Cover for everything except APEX. Cover didn't brainwash all of Japan to play that.

>> No.1350811

>>1345074
You did tell him to throw away his creativity. You did this to yourself.

>> No.1350865

>>1344873
>uma musume fotm gacha
more like the most anticipated gacha in 4years

>> No.1351382

>>1344873
I didn't want the Holos to say or do anything interesting anyway. Thank you based Daddy Yagoo.

>> No.1352067

>>1345952
Watson literally played Oblivion longer at this point then both Gura and Cali Skyrim time combined.

>> No.1352129

>>1344873

Watch this, then
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGleB170TfE&feature=youtu.be

>> No.1352639

>>1344873
>complains about no originality
>posts this same shit for the 10th time

>> No.1353373

>>1352639
kek

>> No.1357100

>>1345074
I may be a faggot, but at least at least I'm not a chink.

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