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General numberfag sites>https://playboard.co/en/>http://ikioi-ranking.com/>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-rankingHololive sites>https://holo.poi.cat/>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html>https://trackholo.live/en/Nijisanji sites>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly>https://twitter.com/2434rankings>https://twitter.com/2434subscriberTwitch>https://sullygnome.com/>https://twitchtracker.com/>https://stats.roki.sh/Full list at https://pastebin.com/CCfK7mVR
Gonna post a reply here to make this seem more active than the other one.Someone used the Suisei x Roberu for the OP again.
oh god people better use this thread.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUNlZqgqabQAqua's guerilla utawaku is starting, 9k currently.
Do we have any leads on who will be in wave 4? Anyone that can bring good numbers?
>>13434700Noel has had 2 3d events in the past 5 months, one was 67k (I think this was the day of nijirock? 2 months ago?) and 75k (5 months ago)
>>13434676Noel got 67.6k
Kronii made 1.8k USD in SC in under 20 minutes.
>>13434978Elira's male friend is confirmed I think? I don't know which one though since I don't read NijEN's thread.
>MAIMOTO POKEMON ENTER
>>13435049Oh wait, it's 1.6k
>>13435075Apex is truly DEAD.
>>13435049thats a big number of money in a short number of time.
the 2views...
>>13435075I don't understand it. He's doing a challenge?
What do you think contributes to the downfall and eventual closure of HoloEN?
Agua 10k got.
>>13435155Audience participation challenge.He's gonna run a team based on what he gets out of eggs the audience trades him.
Time for Riku timeloop again: Is it gaining traction or is it still contained within Niji circle?
Is it wrong to expect a bit more number in aqua's return stream? It's been awhile since she streamed.
Maimoto 30k. Goddamn
>>13435069Why do they keep recruiting from that circle of frineds?
>>13435255 (me)He's already gotten to the point where he can trade, so he skips the boring opening sequence shit as well since at this point everyone and their mother has seen that shit.
Man niji holiday buff is strong
>>13435286Gorilla.
>>13435286is gorilla
>>13435301They have no other options.
>>13435376>>13435403Why would Kanata debuff Aqua's numbers?
be honest, if a new company started up and started getting more views that either Hololive or Nijisanji, how many of you would jump ship?
Nijisanji slow and steady, they might win this month.
>>13435286She spams utawaku too much it doesn't feel special anymore. She also doesn't have a diverse setlist.
>>13435449Kanata is the one singing.
>>13435316niggahe is doing the same boring ass opening but with an already made team. kinda defeats the purpose but participation is good
>>1343507533k now and climbing, today gold everyone
>>13435469That's a big IF because right now, no one can compete against them. However, there might be one in the next generation, which will have a different fanbase anyway, so it's possible a lot might jump ship.
>>13435469>jump shipWhy would I? I'll just watch both.
>>13435535Gen 3 has no chance
Chima still has the best Phony
>>13435376>>13435403Yeah but its a guerrilla in a middle of a holiday and her return stream after 2 weeks, it shouldn't be this bad.>>13435490Also I forgot her most recent utawaku streams goes for around 16-17k.
>>13435075>>13435535>>13435580Does not slip?
>>1343564116-17k is good. Kanata and Watame couldn't get that number.
>>13435580Gen 3 does not slip (please slip though, nobody likes Hololive)
>>13435641> it shouldn't be this bad.is a guerrilla on the afternoonis like complaining about pekora numers not starting at 30k when streaming at this time.
>>13435686its fucking maimoto, the koshien host, the one that has 180k ccv under his resume, of course not slipping holobro
>>13435469Numbers are numbers, oshi is oshi.
>>13435796if pekora reaches elite 4 it will.
>>13435480anon...
>>13435469I like to be a numberfag but I don't watch because of numbers, that sounds stupid. I'll definitely check them out tho since there has to be a reason they became popular.
>>13435900>36k nowyeah no, pekora wont reach e4 on today stream her starter died
>>13435686Of course, he's an honorary holo, part of the oozora family. We win again holobros!!!
Maimoto = 3 holos
To ti tu te to tu t t tu TOWA
>>13435469Everyone here would be nousagis then by that logic.
Look at who's winning now Holofags. Fuck you all, FUCK YOU ALL TO HELL. This is so satisfying.
>>13436069oh no no no what happen to the sponsorship stream enbros?10k ccv total?!! yikes
Look at all them grudgeposts popping up like weeds after the rainTonight's going to be fun
Holofags take another L what are we know niji -18 and holo- 13 looks like this month is going to nijisanji baby.
>>13435900It took Pekora 2 streams (6hrs each) to reach the 3rd gym lmao. Elite Four will still be Next Month.It will be Rushia or Peko vs Maimoto today>Rushia or Pekora will get the highest # in the relay >Maimoto can actually reach 40k i guess but it's beatable >Hololive Main Ch can also possibly win (preview of game today right?)
>>13436116Honorary holo, doesn't count.
>>13435075Why are his numbers so unstable?Literally from 2views to 30k
>>13436120more than nijien mario kart kek
>>13436173imo nah on the main channel, but it is a Holiday so who knows about what kind of numbers there'll be
>people forgetting the gen 3karaoke relayif holiday buff can get maimoto 36k imagine a gen 3 relay.
>>13436173isnt the relay tomorrow?>>13436185is a participation stream. POkemon eggs, names,etc are all form the viewers.
which gen has the most consistent stream schedule/hours? it's gotta be gen 3, right?
It's been more than a year since aqua stream in this timeslot. Yagoo please give back 2019 peak aqua and stop giving her idol jobs.
>>13436173dont forget noel is the last one and she has two buff. gen 3 relay and bday buff.
>>13436242maimoto gonna get 50k holobro, your relay wont even touch that number with 30 minutes each relay
>>13436275i prefer idol aqua rather than apex autist going after her and degreding her mental health even more.any management that have a talent on that situation and does nothing or offer somehting for they to do ratehr might as well burn.
>>13435075What happened to kuzukeks?
>>13436351I like gamer Aqua more. She doesn't have to play APEX.
>>13436116Lol poor nijifags have been seething all this time. Tired of getting beaten? Must've sucked to be a nijifag>>13436158Lol if this Maimoto slips i'm gonna laugh so hard.If it does win then fine, Hololive already won the month. But ofcourse i would love it if Holofags pile up more wins.
>>13436275>>13436351I just want my gamer maid back.
God, I want Cover Corp to bankrupt so much.
>>13436351chihiro...
40k>40k40k>40k
>>13436200main ch is premiere not a stream so it doesn't count
Today's superchats
>>13436362Not tourney
>>13436472Oh, it's a premiere? Yea it doesn't count then.IMO, I'm impressed with this number from Miamoto, but the usual question of course is..."Where the FUCK are you fuckers on any usual day huh?!?!?!"
>>13436421
>>13436523Watching hololive
>>13436523THEY DONT GIVE A FUCK A MAIMOTOget that, they are just there to see the eggs that hatch.Is pretty much a gacha stream.
>>13436523I went back to hololive
>>13436550Kek. That was a pretty hilarious response that was posted yesterday. I wish there were more funny ones that took jabs at Hololive and posted here, since I can't read goddamn moonrunes.
>>13436577>>13436523>make them give you eggs>make them watch the whole opening again and still need to wait for hatchingdevilish way to keep numbers for a while
>>13436577Now that you mention this, this does feel more like a gatcha stream than pokemon.
>>13436630That was me.
inb4 slip at the last moment like yesterday with Subaru taking the throne
Damn look at all these nijifags being so arrogant. Just seeing one of the nijis "possibly" winning the day makes them go wild.Welp too bad it's already 16-6.
Where the fuck are these people come from??? Isn't it like 1 a.m. in Japan?? How can he get that high number in middle of Tuesday?
>>13436724holiday
its just a shitposter deciding to go back to this thread today anonchamas. we didnt see this guy appear even on the days of the splatoon tourney
>>13436724now its 2pm
>>13436485I completely forgot about the existence of Sakusan Kanon for a good 3 months until just now, glad she still has some paying fans that stuck around after the pump and dump
>>13436724> Isn't it like 1 a.m. in Japan?? How can he get that high number in middle of Tuesday?nigga is afternoon on a holiday
>>13436724bots
>>13436707just look at the likes
>>13436712what with this wishful thinking holofags?? kek 47k bros
>>13436751>>13436780I didn't know about that. Thanks
>maimoto: 47k>hololive total ccv: 49koh no no no
I know we like to shitpost but this idea from Maimoto is great. Whatever your own opinion on it, it's clearly entertaining enough to garner such attention and retain it. He's had a decent knack for coming up with entertaining streams. If he gets the gold for it it's well deserved though I would laugh my ass off if it slipped.
>>1343693150k now for maimotoholobro lets wait for tommorow ok?
>>1343693150k nowcan't win against the cock mannot the cock
>>13436421and then what? you will find another reason to hate yourself
>>13436968nobody is saying he doesnt deserve it people are just giving the epxlanation on why it happenWhen he does solo it is...what it is.
>>13436992I trust noel two gold medals today and tomorrow.
>>13437024Oh I'm not arguing with anyone in particular on the thread, just giving my own opinion on it since the schizos are out and about again.
>>13437073Ah yeah i agreeif it slips is gonna be shitposting 24/7 for the rest of the week
Aqua 15k get.
It'll slip. Mark my words.
>decide to put Miamoto on the telly>he's wearing his gay dad outfitI wonder if she outfits affect numbers.
wtf is he even doing, i don't get the premise
>>13437005holy shit 60k possible?
>>13437125no it won't
>>13436931So, what's the gimmick? How the fuck is he getting 55k with Pokemon?
today, old man has his way with idols
>>13437233Very much possible.
Gen 3 can't even beat Nijisanji these days, sad how a behemoth has fallen so low.
>>13437226>>13437259he asked the viewers to give her pokemon egss to make a team.He is starting a new adventure.He got the eggs out of the pc and is running in town waiting for them to hatchSo it is pretty much pokemon gatcha
>>13437226I also don't get how holos get 20-30k playing blocks
MAIMOTOAIMOTO
>>13435141Don't worry, the numbers thread peaks at JP prime time.
>>13437284Oh hey I know of this run, it's the mystery egg run. It was pretty popular on twitch a couple years ago
>>13437284>waiting for them to hatchHow much it will take them?
>>13437350yup
did Hololive win this month yet?
>>13436931>>13436992>>13437005It's a holiday today which is pretty much an event so it doesnt count
>Hololive uses Nuzlocke >Nijisanji goes for mystery eggThere's probably some conclusion to be drawn from this but I'm not smart enough to draw the conclusions
>>13437423gimmicks are buffsthere, not exactly rocket science
>>13437373they already hatched likitung,natu,the thing that evolves in salamance,manaphy.HOWEVER he got a second batch of eggs from viewers so he is doing it again
>>13437318Man amongst manHoloslayer
>>13437423And Nuzlocke is stupid, the low views already showed.
>>13437423Niji tourist viewers going to tourist. 90% of these people will never watch this disgusting old bastard again.
Gacha part is over and people are leaving now. 54k peak
>>13437502Typical casual Nijisanji tourist fanbase. That company is dead.
>>13437483i wish he sound old. His voice filters me.>>13437502pretty nice
God, if Kuzuha is King then Maimoto is like a primordial god. He is the trump card of Nijisanji, he is the proof that Nijisanji is still the best in the world. He is the testament that Nijisanji will eventually be synonymous to the word "vtuber" itself. If someone says vtuber, they will think Nijisanji. This is why Riku is truly deserved to be called the prodigy of vtuber.
>>13437318Grand duke of oji-san, Lord of farmer, member of Imperial House of Japan. Sir Maimoto
>>13437502Why the fuck do nips love gatcha this much
>>13437558Holos could do it, ya know
>>13437423>Holos copy overused tried and tested gimmicks>Niji actually think outside the box to create creative and entertaining contentThere, made your conclusions for you
Now imagine if kuzuha or pekora did this
>>13437423>Holos do hardcore run strats>Nijis do gacha meme streamsThere's your connection
Now if someone in holo did a 100 win streak battle tower endurance stream. I can only think of aqua austistic enough to do it.
>>13437603is like betting>>13437649Would be called copy cats
>>13437623Mystery egg run isn't unique though
>>13437558Nijisanji is the Jack Daniels of vtubing. Cheap swill that is easily consumed by the masses due to how uncomplicated it is. Hololive is like a fine 25 year old aged Laphroaig. Complicated and truly challenging at first, but once you get a taste for it there is no going back, superior in every way from dedication to the craft to flavor, to culture.
>>13437423hololive goes for nurture and carenijisanji goes for gambling
>>13436931Bros I thought you guys said king carried the entire company?
>>13437558Don't overreact, he's been dead since Koshien
well he reclining now peak at 54k
>>13437696damn, you really stripped him from his silver medals
Mr. Koro reigns, not your poke
This will not slip. As a holofan I don't think our livers will get close to this, since at least 60% of the relay can't sing for shit.
People are really freaking out over Maimoto of all people having a high viewership stream? This is his cycle. He has a big stream and them goes back to barely 2k CCV for like an entire month before he gets another silly idea that draws viewers. Rinse and repeat. His entire career is a microcosm of Nijisanji as a whole when it comes to viewership trends.
>>13437766>liversoh no no no, the mask slips again
>>13437747sad cope
>>13437737kek
>>13437657>Nuzlocke>hardcore run>Nuzlocke rule they kept was permadeath, can catch whatever Pokemon they want and heal whenever they wantNice hardcore run you got there Baby Zoomer. You're probably one of those types that think Dark Souls is hard RUMAO
The shitty Nijimale (I refuse to use the real name of male vtubers, that is how little respect I have for them) is absolutely hemorrhaging viewership right now. Nice viewer retention asshole, what a failed stream.
>>13437423You know what could be better. Why not just combine two challenges into egglocke
>>13437897YOU ARE A GENIUS
seems like nijiniggers really are tourists no matter where they are, where were these guys on literally every other day of this month?
>>13437817cope
>>13437853You aren't wrong. He has lost over 12,000 viewers in like 10 minutes, lol.
>>13437912I mean it's already popular pokemon challenge
>>13437916>>13436550
Nijiniggers are a joke. maimoto gets half the viewers marine does with her silly sister gimmick.sit down nijibro
It's just numbersWhy you got to be mad?
>>13438003And the sister gimmick actually held viewers. He has lost 13,000 viewers in like 15 minutes.
>>13437423I actually really wish one of the HoloEN girls had done something like a mystery egg run, would've been really fun to watch.The only Pokemon content I actually enjoy nowadays is randomizer runs, and given emulation obviously isn't an option something like mystery egg is probably the closest you'd get.
>>13437944Gura lost 20% of her viewership with that One Block Mod yet you faggot still called it impressive lmao. Fucking Holobronies and their bias
>nikisei xmas partyAqua pls, i need another unity gen besides gen 3, so much untapped potential including ayame.
Wtf where did 13k viewers go? Did they really watch it for the gacha part? They didn't even try other nijisanji stream.
>>13437777It's just people using him for (you) baiting.
>>13437944i mean>have lickitung>inmediately evolve it at lv 6it lose any kind of challeneg if you
>>13438079This is the numbers thread not your house of lies>inb4 superchat readingcope
>>13438003>>13437916>>13437853Falseflagging isn't nice. Shitposting doesn't make you look cool.
>>13438092never underestimate gacha buff
>>13438079Are you dumb? She lost viewers because she moved to superchats. Maimoto is still playing the game. You nijiniggers get more and more desperate every single day.
>>13438087>unity gen besides gen 3gen 5 is by far the closest gen although gen 3 is really close by their own rights
>>13438079>doomposting 10k shills>crying over 20k parades
>>1343812654kMeme shark hasn't gotten that since AprilCOPEWe winYou lose
>>13438079>Literally hold 20k by doing nothingPretty impressive not gonna lie
>Holobros coping and seething alreadyYou guys need to believe in your strongest gen: HoloFantasy!
>>13438208They suck at sinigng besides Flare and Marine plus it is only 30 minutes each. A karaoke relay may get 50k~ but I wouldn't be on anymore than that.
Among all of this Maimoto talk people haven't noticed that Himawari is playing the exact same game and can't even hit 4k. If that isn't proof of Manjisanji I don't know what is.
>>13438254She's playing normally isn't she?
>>13438254So what? Holo still not topping 54k for today stream
>>13438254Gimmick streams get more viewers than normal ones. More news at 11.
>>13438254is a normal playtorugh
>>13438208Keep falsefagging and samefagging, ChinkWe Holochads don't care about losing just one dayWe win months,years, all the time
>13438190Another house of lies lol
I mean... He still has like 40k watching him play pokemon normally. Isn't that a really great number? I didn't watch him so I assume it just a normal gameplay after the gacha part was over.
>>13438254Honma is a short bus rider and her only viewers are people who like watching disabled kids play.
>>13438384is gonna keep decreasing and probably wont hit or surprsass it until the ELITE4 battle.
>>13438254Pokemon by itself isn't a buff game, we've established this beyond reasonable doubt.
oh shit tonight is gonna be good. Gen 3 relay vs Baseball chad. Thread is probably going to be the worst one for awhile
>>13438384it's impressive but people are just sick and tired of the constant shit flinging. it doesn't matter whether Hololive wins or Nijisanji wins, they will shit up the thread however they can.
>>13438384He is still shedding viewers at a fatal rate. Down to 38k now.I'm of the opinion that his stream shouldn't count for the daily win list. His peak was so brief and full of tourists that it wasn't a legit peak. All you have to do is look at how fast he is hemorrhaging viewership. We should take a vote.https://poal.me/jgmmhw
>aqua sololive mario party totsumachi irl versionBaqua has some big brain for gimmick streams.
So are there any posts in this thread worth reading or is it just trolls trolling trolls all the way down?
>>13438514eh, I'm okay with it and I'm a holofag. doing that will only complicate situations down the line.
>>13438570dont repond to it
>>13438474Good for him if he wins. It would be hilarious though since maimoto will have 1 gold this month while the king himself still has 0
>>13438551how new?
>>13438514No, fuck you, numbers are numbers. Don't do shenanigans with them otherwise it'll just encourage more shenanigans and then this entire thread will just become cope, seethe and house of lies thread
>>13438514lmao yeah let's not count any streams with gacha elements
>>13438602Oh no silver boy
>>13438656>then this entire thread will just become cope, seethe and house of lies thread>implying it already isn'tkek
>>13438656This thread isn't a house of lies where I can spam cope, seethe and dilate!? I've been lied to.
>>13438686>silverI don't know about that one, chief
>>13438514Man, this falseflag is going places.
>>13438602He won't. There is no way the gen 3 relay doesn't hit at least 60k.
>>13438749Do we know the order? If Marine is last then I think it can hit 60k.
The Amelia/Roboco friendship is one of the most bizarre things in Hololive, lol. Ame can't speak a lick of Japanese yet she does stream with Roboco on a fairly consistent basis. Shame this is a split POV otherwise it might have done some pretty decent numbers.https://youtu.be/CxbODUqwbww
>>13438819We do. Noel is last
>>13438749it won't loltheir top batter is marine and pekora
>>13438841They are ture friends
>>13438841It's not really that weird, Roboco has always reached out to the foreign branches more than her peers.
>>13438841>split POVThe bane of numberfags everywhere
>>13438841Roboco is friendly with a few of the En girls offline, she just like to stream with Ame for some reason.
Did she notice the apex trend is fading? If so, pretty smart of her.
>>13438853ah shit no way then. Maimoto won't slip!!
>>13438990>doubting NoelRemember what happened last time you Nijikeks doubted Noel? We don't call her the NijiRock killer for nothing.
>>13438853>SOVL SINGER>BDAY GIRL70k
>>13438990Noel has the SOUL to win.
>>13438841It's not bizarre if you paid attention to what Roboco has done over the years. She collabs with pretty much everyone.
>>13438969this retard needs to get banned from mentioning other agency as well. too arrogant acting like a mediator, indog shit
>>13438969She named her starter in Pokemon APEx and promised to take a month long break from the game if it died (she's doing a nuzlocke). You can guess what happened.
>>13439124She killed it on purpose? That's cold blooded.
>>13438969Annu other game that will never ever fade away?
im sick of this pokemon nuzlocke shit. When are t hey going to do this?
>>13439249do the remakes even have battle tower?
>>13439249Sana should get there in a day or two.
>>13439285yep they do
>>13438841the more bizarre thing is that no one treats Roboco like they would with Sora considering Roboco officially is Hololive's 2nd ever member.
Ame got 10k and is still on the loading screen.
>>13439430Roboco's pon is too powerful to make treating her like that believable.
>>13439434she wins the pov here, everyone want to see Roboco. But I also want to see the actual scale of smol3d in comparison
>>13439542Do you think ame got her a smol Roboco model?
>>13439430Roboco isn't really part of hololive the way Sora was, she's more similar to Miko where she's part of a different project who got folded into Gen0 when that project fell through, so she doesn't have the same mystique and grandeur around her
>>13439594For this stream, no. they'd make it mysterious otherwise
>>13439037>guests buff
>>13439854All of gen 3 will appear on Noel's stream.
oh god, it's actually small. so cute
>>13438474It was already full of arrogant nijifags a while ago>>13438749I wish Holos wins today as well but i don't think its possible for them to top 55k>Miko will stream at the same time as Rushia in the relay (so the peak will be either Pkeora or Marine)>Okayu will overlap with all of them>Gen 3 aren't even that good in singingBut at least Holos already got 16wins this month so whatever happens, Hololive already won November 2021
>>13439598I'm glad that Sora is less distanced to her kouhai compared to before. Sora and Mito are polar opposites yet they are successful in their own ways.
>>13438514holy mother of falseflags kek, nijiniggers can be pretty funny sometimes
>>13440149>It was already full of arrogant nijifags a while agoFunny how you don't count spam from seething holofags. Is that how it usually works here?
>>13440179Sora should Collab with the En girls. Karaoke with Irys or Mori would get numbers.
>>13439598>she's part of a different project who got folded into Gen0Do you have a source for this claim
>>13440291and mog them both? cmon now
>>13440286>Is that how it usually works here?
>>13440291I don't think Mori's Japanese is good enough for Sora but it will definitely yield good numbers. The better choice right now is to have a singing offcollab with IRyS.
>>13440432Fuck it. Have all three on.
>>13440286>Funny how you don't count spam from seething holofagsOnly because Nijifags started posting cocky shit. There are also cocky nijifags yesterday but got silenced when Subaru won the day. They're extra arrogant today because they know 55k is almost impossible to defeat today.
>>13438124
Aqua... You could have been where Pekora is today... I will never forgive the chinks
10K for ame
>>13440584fuck, why didn't I think of that? bring AZKi along too so we can have moments like this.
kek saw this. jops doing the medal thing lmao
>>13440600So the usual "blame everything on nijifags (falsflaggers)", I see
>>13440833truly numberfag gods
>>13440833Like a mirror
>>13440833Miko really is a bronze medalists.>calling her MikochiHolofag hands made that table.
>>13440833When you visualize it, holy fuck is the difference apparent. Even in silver and bronze medals Holo is strong.
>>13440833
>>13440833>>13440892Are Jp Bros even more of a numberfags than us?
>>13440700>ChinksShe can literally toe to toe with Pekora if she play Apex or doing hardcore challenge. Her constant break plus utawaku spam is what make her stream less special a and finally become worse than fucking shion while Subaru slowly replace her as the Ace of Nikisei
>>13441052this thread is a pale imitation of the numberfagging the jp bros get up to.
Pekora squeezed another 30k again in her pokemon stream despite being 2 hours late in her stream and bad pokefans reception from her last gym battle.She will grind the living shit out of her view time if her real floor for this game is 28k-30k.
>>13441005I...is that me!? I'm a bronze medalist!? But kek, guess that slipped through the cracks or IT'S INTENTIONAL RIGGING
>>13440833Jp bros
>>13441052they numberfag okayu's piss, we only numberfag for tribalism. They are playing in a different level.
>>13441198She is not late though.
>>13441198According to Graphanon/Chartanon>Pekora's Median of peaks is around 34k>Pekora's Average of peaks is around 38kso anything below those drags her numbers down. BUT it contributes to her Hours watched. Too bad Streamhatchet isn't accurate. (It deducted Pekora's # by 2M and Kuzuha's # by 800k)
>>13440833Pekora: 6G 7S 5B -> 18 medalsMarine: 3G 3S 1B - > 7 medalsNijiMain 3G 0S 0B -> 3 medalsMiko: 2G 1S 5B -> 8 medalsSubaru: 1G 0S 1B -> 2 medalsKuzuha: 0G 4S 2B -> 6 medalsI don't see any other multi medal winners.
>>13440993>Pekora is the Gold Queen>Kuzuha is the Silver King>Mikochi is the Bronze QueenThat is the vtuber trifecta of royalty
>>13441554>Kuzuha>Silver kingLmao
>>13441494Might as well add Maimoto with today's stream.
>>13441554Pekora is the Queen of Gold, Silver and Bronze Medals.She beats Miko, Kuzuha, Marine and Nijimain.
>>13441554>>13441494
>>13441494Adding yesterday to this the count changes fromMarine: 3G 3S 2B -> 8 medalsSubaru: 2G 0S 1B - 3 medals
So, How do we save Aqua?
Oh no, Koefficient is jumping on the Riku bandwagon. Nijisanji is just winning more today.
>>13438990>>13439035Yea, like it never happened before ...
>>13441832She's the only one who can save herself anon. She was known for her streams and gaming skill but since she doesn't stream that much and even when she stream all she do is singing stream. Obviously lots of fans that love her for that will obviously leave.
>>13441884How much did Nijisanji pay him this time?
>>13442028Isn't he just a harmless anituber?
>>13441832Went through this before so here's a quick TLDR>focus on her idol reps for now, ditch them or have them at a manageable level after her sololive>branch out, return to the Holo ecosystem. Starting with Subaru or Shion would be fine.>play games, preferably single player games. Stream them more often.>interact more, don't be forever pinned as the socially awkward retard even when mentioned by others>>13441884Nijifags and their house of lies?
>>13442056Fighting games and vtuber reactor not anime. Nijisanji asked him to react to nijisanshi clips.
>>13438285cope
NijiEN just had that massive event yesterday. Did it buff their normal numbers?
>>13442235Lol
>>13441092and why do you think she is in a spiral of breaks and utawakus and doesnt play apex anymore retard?
Numbers!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEXmq4dMUZgNot just that it got to 100k views really fast for a trailer, but the tournament itself in 6 days. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mb8Voo597zIMinecraft battle royal mountain. Main Pov on (literally) rip off Kaiji's channel.
>>13442504Baacharu shouldve let Chieri in his slot instead. That girl streams so damn much she needs a good boost.
>>13442504Peanuts-kun will come out on top in CCV screenshot this
>>13442562Don't think any of .live girls are receiving any boosts whatsoever. Siro keeps bleeding subs.
>>13442504I bet anons in this thread can’t even name half of the participants.
>>13442612I know anon, I'm just drinking copium that they get a break. Also Siro is literally what Aqua is going to be soon if she takes too much idol/sonsorship reps.
>>13442635I don't recognize the top right 2.
>>13442504Why is there no Holo in this lineup? Why are they so isolationist?
>>13442504Definitely Lower than the Splatoon Tourney. Could've been a sure win if Nijimain was the main POV.But i don't think it can win if Peko or Marine plays a buff game.
>>13442748t. clipwatcher
>>13442504>Pink Pekora
kek Council reclining hard
35k for Pekora not even at a gym...
>>13442748How many of them collab with Tenkaiji at least sometimes? Only Fubuki?
>>13442774I'm not a clipwatcher.I'm a threadwatcher.
>>13442504Why does hololive rarely seen in this kind of collab compare to nijisanji? Is it because Cover doesn't want to send holo to this kind of collab or hololive being ostracized from this kind of collab?
>>13442504so counted as niji gold right bros?
how on fucking earth is pekora in 35k and still slowly inclining she isn't even near a gym yet. Following the pattern, her pokemon stream's floor is getting higher in each stream.
>>13442835Hololive is a pariah in the industry for being idolfagging beggars who prefer to shun men in order to suck money from dumb incels
>>13442835>hololive being ostracized from this kind of collab?this is probably the case. >>13442153>Nijisanji asked him to react to nijisanshi clips.you're probably lying.
>>13442813Just imagine if she do egg gacha too
>>13442783This image is fake
>>13442835It all started with the multiple yabs that Hololive was dealing with.Compare pre-yab Holo and post-yab Holo in terms of outside collabs.
>>13442875>Hololive is a pariah in the industry for pissing off the bugsFIFY
>>13442835Both.
>>13442875Hololive is just so strong that other vtubers are too shy to ask them for a collab because they might taint the image of the Holos.
>>13441832Have her move into Shion's place.
>>13442504>tournament itself in 6 days.they are really numberfagging these days
>>13442835This >>13442889and the fact that>males are numbers poison>outside collabs are numbers poison, especially tournaments>lack of connections, AKA no reason to participate something where you literally know no oneand relating to the point above>Holo's own ecosystem is already more than enough, outside collabs are not needed
>>13442841If Pekora or Marine plays a debuff stream or take a break then Yeah.>>13442783Endurance Birthday Stream vs 2POV Shill stream (2nd run)>>13442835Nope, they're afraid of chinks that's why they avoid Holos. They only collab with safe members and if the leeching is good.
>>13442875Jokes on them. Ostracizing Hololive just made their box pushing strat more effective.Why do you think Hololive has many brand loyalists? Anyone who ever wanders into a Hololive clip and liked what they see will eventually turn into a Hololive only watcher. That's why the chart says that they're inclining while the other companies are reclining.
>>13442884go fact check it yourself dumbass https://holo.poi.cat/youtube-stream
>>13442875So, in July of 2020 they had zero unicorn idolfags and had collabs with everyone but then in September they suddenly manifested and became the majority of the hololive fanbase and that is why they're no longer included in these sort of things. Or maybe other things happened. What SEAcord keeps pushing this meme?
>>13443041>kroni casually mogs nina on her birthdaykek
>>13443031>Hololive are inclining>other companies are recliningFunny, I don't see any 200k CCV streams on hololive's main channel
>>13442783So Nina's 2nd highest stream ever managed to beat Bae's lowest and Sana's second lowest streams of all time?
>>13441832Unironically, have her move back into her parent's house.I think the depression is due to her being independent and not knowing how to deal with it, rather than anything vtubing related.
>>13443094>200kSurely that helped a lot
>>13442875A fucking retard
>>13443085>Aloe got chased out by holofag unicorns just because she dared to have a boyfriend>that was the last straw and all right-thinking fans left in disgust over her treatment by the unicorns and the companyDoesn't take a brain surgeon to figure this shit out
>>13442748>>13442748>>13442835>>13442875>>13442876>>13442889>>13442946>>13443014>>13443024>>13443031>>13443085https://youtu.be/UPan2iUWHPQ
>>13443164why no niji?
>>13443184>>Aloe got chased out by holofag unicorns just because she dared to have a boyfriendYou know that was only a small part of it and there were many factors. Don't simplify the series of events for your SEAcord narrative.
>>13441832make chinks apologize to her
>>13442875>>13442835retards, nijisanji is insecure with holo mc numbers
>>13443198Are you really taking the shiposting seriously?
>>13443198>Hololive, Nijisanji and VspoUnityCHAD!!??
pekora 37k, will she get 40k ?
>13443184I'm sure everyone with a brain knows this already, but you're retarded.>>13443198I should have added the word "generally".This is Twap and her circle of FPS addicts, there's at least 5 of them Twap has played with before. And yeah she's never the one to be shy from outside collabs.
>>13443184>>Aloe got chased out by holofag unicorns just because she dared to have a boyfriendSo why is Watame well regarded by most of the fanbase?
>>13443198Towa's crew
>>13442835>>13443024>>13442889>>13442920I get where I am but it's absurd to imagine this conspiracy where Hololive is victimized for standing up to China when it's clearly just that Cover managers are generally selfish and prefer an incestuous approach to keep views in. The real mystery is why specific Holos like FBK, Choco, and Towa are allowed to collab with basically everyone while others are basically locked in.
>>13443164look at this unity, while nijisanji continue to isolate their selves for numbers
>>13443257I just want to post anything related to bora(sex)
wtf are these peko numbers
I think Hololive's strategy of only having a few low-mid tier ambassadors for outside collabs while keeping their strongest members isolated is a good strategy.It minimizes the chances of losing viewers while still retaining the chance of stealing viewers from outsiders.
Hololive>Minecraft Sports Fest >Evil God Korone>Outfits (1x)>3D Stream (4x)>PokemonNijisanji>Splatoon Tourney>Minecraft Battle Royale>3D Debut (3x)>Kuzuha's Birthday>Chronoir 3D>Outfits (i only saw 1 worth noting)>Bora's Graduation>Pokemon >We'll see if these events will help them incline.
>>13442841Tenkai (kaiji) was literally a Nijisanji affiliate and MCs their tournaments, so, if he gets it, absolutely.
>>13443279Pekora is just getting numbers out of her ass isn't she. She is just catching pokemon for fuck sake how is that possible?
>>13443306>is why specific Holos like FBK, Choco, and Towa are allowed to collab with basically everyone while others are basically locked in.Management isn't centralized and the talents themselves have to set everything up. I mean Flare collabs with her friend but never touches anyone outside of the company.
>>13443366she's being cute
>>13443345Wait, he is just an affiliate and not a full member?
>>13443306No conspiracy. Most of the girls in Hololive's roster are shy autists, and the hags who take care of them. The shy girls would never venture for an outside collab unless forced to by management, while the hags are too busy mothering the autists to go for an outside collab.
>>13443366been asking that question since her second pokemon stream.
>>13443306>generally selfish and prefer an incestuous approach to keep views inVtubing isn't a charity though, there's nothing wrong with that at all. And if the managers actually cared then you would see 0 interactions between Kiara and Pomu.Maybe you've not thought about this, but maybe most of their friend circles that they care enough to collab with is just within Hololive? Being supposedly ostracized aside.
>>13443341It's almost as if their top tier are autistic introvert who can barely collab with tier coworkers let alone someone outside company
What kind of fan do you prefer?A tribalfag or a unityfag?
>>13443420He and Fairys were affiliated but not anymore.
>>13443425>>13443366>>13443338I have been asking that question since /vt/ was created. What happened to my Usada "Underdog" Pekora??
>>13443453Their top tier chuubas are almost always the autistsExcept Subaru. Why isn't she collabing with Niji anymore?
>>13443506certainly not a nijinigger
>>13443506I prefer people who don't weigh in at all. Unity is forced, just enjoy and watch what you want. Tribalfagging is for SEAs and spics.
>>13443424>shy autistsDYRBI?
>>13443552She started inclining once she focused on her gachikois and EOP's
>>13443306>Dismisses a rrat>Believes an even more unbelievable rrat.Why are Nijiniggers like this?
Collab beggars are here again
>>13443366Pokemon Streams (also MC) are easy to follow unlike her past games Judgement, FF and Yakuza.>>13443341>>13443306>>13443031LMFAO, you guys are overestimating corpos like COVER and ANYCOLOR. They do have control but they aren't that calculating Light Yagami style.Nijis just love tourneys and associating with others while Holos are just freaking shy autistics.
>>13443506neither, unityfags are beggars and tribalfags seethe over everything
>>13443506As if you could choose to begin with.>>13443552And why SHOULD she collab with Niji? Does it bring good numbers? No? I rest my case.
hololive was abandoned during the taiwan yab, they lifted their own weight.learn to do that niggers
>>13443552The top tiers are Pekora, Miko, Marine, Subuaru, and Gura. Out of those only Pekora is most certainly an autist while Gura is arguably one. Miko, Subaru, and Marine are perfectly normal.
>>13443611I'm not saying that Cover has intentionally set up that strategy. More like they fell ass backwards into it, and it's surprisingly working out for them.How do they keep getting away with this?
>>13442876https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PZqCn3W3OFoAbout 1:05
>>13443506A vtuberfag. I don't care about unity or tribal thing. It's better for vtubers to have freedom to choose what kind of streaming style they want rather than being forced by management or their fans
>>13443552Nijis blacklisted her because they don't want to upset their Chinese fans.
>>13443624Then WHY the heck she collab with Luna,?? Her number is worse than fucking towa and yet the duck is close with both of them
>>13443683Aqua used to be top tier and she's certainly an autist.Miko can be argued either way. Subaru and Marine are for sure aren't autist.
Pekora safari zone round 2. Should hit 40k with the rate she's been increasing at.
>>13443506im fine with whatever as long as it isn't a chink or nijinigger
>>13443506Neither. Watching Vtubers is cringe.
The entire Hololive taiwain yab which followed by collab begs and seethe by 2views reminded me of those corny Dharma Mann videos on youtube its kinda funny.ENTIRE VTUBER INDUSTRY LEFT AN IDOL COMPANY BEHIND AND INSTANTLY REGRETTED IT.
>>13443735Luna brings numbers when she's in a collab.She's good at collabs.
>>13443506If i'm a vtuber then i'll choose tribalfags. Atleast most of them are loyal and may even act like soldiers against antis.>>13443713Unityfags should stick with chuubas like Ollie and Kiara.Tribalfags should stick with chuubas like Aqua and Pekora.
>>13443735>her numbers is worse than TowaIf Towa keeps up her Apex addiction Luna might surpass her this month. Here's the catch though.>It's okay if it's in Hololive, because box pushing is a thingAnd Subaluna certainly brings good numbers.
>>13443506Depends on who I want to troll at the moment
>>13443451>maybe most of their friend circles that they care enough to collab with is just within Hololive?that's probably the case with HoloEN where most of them have barely any knowledge of vtubing outside of Hololive but it doesn't explain why Pekora, Miko, Subaru, etc. suddenly and almost entirely stopped doing outside collabs except with "safe" people like Ui and Tamaki.
>>13443847>>13443847Because they suck.
May be collabing inner circle is far easier, takes less effort and more efficient than collabing with people you are unfamiliar with? I think you guys are overthinking about collabs.
>>13443735Really Simple!Because Luna is a Hololive Member. Good numbers or not, it's benefiting Hololive.Let her collab with Outsiders (especially rivals like nijis) and there's a chance of having audience jump ship.
>>13443899Anon, half the fun of the numbers thread is watching people larp as managers.
>>13443906Nijis aren't rivals since the fanbases don't overlap.
>>13443841>>13443774Based>>13443735Maybe Subaru doesn't collab with Niji anymore because Luna told Subaru about her experience in Niji. Subaru made a moral decision to never support such a black company.
Sometimes this thread is a riot. Reading some of the crap thought up here makes it sound like collabs go up on some vtuber noticeboard for every vtuber in existence to try and get in then companies get excluded based on high school level shit and headcanon.
>>13443899They are familiar with most of them, they all have collabed with each other in the past.
>>13443697Yikes. Anycolor really wanted Nijisanji to incline in the west.
>>13443847>>13443878You talk like as if they must collab with outsiders or they're terrible persons for not throwing your dogs a bone.The reason could be as complicated as relationship problems behind the scenes or as simple as just wanting to keep the box pushing going.>>13443945Which one brings better numbers, TokoMachi or MiComet?
>>13443683>Miko, Subaru, and Marine are perfectly normalXDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDhe doesn't knowXDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA
>>13443945why are you lying with a straight face, nijinigger?are you a chink?stop with the farce and just say that you want a collab with holo to leech off some numbers
>>13443198Towa is honorary Holostar, doesn't count.
>>13443697They're trying to fight the algorithm, but it's not gonna work.Hololive's dominance over the algo was a grassroots effort by fans.
>>13443697cringe
On the other hand, are Nijisanji afraid of Matsuri?The other Holo members that frequently collabed with multiple Nijis, like FBK, Sora, RBK, Choco, Mel, Towa still do so, but Matsuri hasn't, other than 1 phasmo Pollab with her close friends.Doesn't look like she gets invited to any big tournaments like this either.The Niji Apex was forever ago too.
>>13444073They're trying to avoid being tainted by her numbers poison.
ITT: >please collab with my dying chubbas, you've done it before so you must do it now again or you're a terrible person and I'll hold you morally accountable!
>>13444073Maybe she just wants to saviorfag other companies/indies?Niji is doing well enough for themselves that they don't need saving anymore.
>>13444073Matsuri is a burning tire fire. Surprised she didn't have a meltdown last week This has nothing to do with tribalism, it has to do with not risking your career.>>13444119Protip: it's the autist who won't stop seething about the Oozora family not collabing anymore. He shits up /hlg/ and global.
>>13444037Doesn't that mean she's fucking all of them then?
>>13444008>Paid for ads>Paid for clippers>Paid for react channels>Changed to EN friendly nameThey really thought they can blow up like Myth did.
>>13444040Lol, what's funny is some paid clippers stops clipping nijis after they've fulfilled their obligations. Some who tries to be a unityfag gets their views fall so hard. They will then start clipping Holos again and stops nijiclips.
Say Anons, do you think Pekora can make it into Top 10 most watched streamer (male includes) if she has Jun's number and willing to stream for at least 10 hours a day?
>>13443899Dealing with one management is easier than dealing with two or more
Pekora 39,950. Spends 2 minutes staring at radar to find items and people start leaving ffs.
>>13444150Actually not him. I just wanted to start shit because I thought it would be funny.
>>13444008>>13444040>>13444041About 3 months before Nijien 1 came out. Hopefully he got payed for it and didn't do it for free.
>>13443697Ew nijisanji
>>13444191>>Changed to EN friendly nameThe changed it from いちから to ANYCOLOR the same day LazuLight debuted. I feel sorry for them if that was not just a coincidence.
has no holo ever played ghost of tsushima? should be a good rpg for numbers considering how japanese-themed it is right? or do they not have perms for it?
>>13444267Sony
>>13444219This numbers may not beat Maimoto but atleast it'll increase her Median and Average of Peaks.
>>13444267>developed by Sucker Punch Productions and published by Sony Interactive Entertainmentaaaaaand RIP.
>>13443506I don't use fans
>>13444037Does that mean that Holostars are inclining?
>>13444267I might be remembering wrong, but I think Miko wanted to but perms were shit like Uncharted.
>>13444001I haven't contacted my friends ever since covid. I am hesitant to pop up and say hi now. People grew apart easily when they are not in contact constantly.
>>13443697Funniest part about this guy's channel is that anything with a holo thumbnail instantly gets 90k-100k plus views. Anything with a niji title struggles to get 100k.
>>13444191Maybe that's why the girls are desperate to earn SC and donations. They were told that they have to immediately pay back the money that Niji invested in them.
>>13443697Koefficient huh, I might've subscribed when he reacted to Hologra and those other Hololive clips.I gotta unsub or else filthy nijiclips might invade my recommendations.
>>13444357You should check out his twitch. He has Subaru emotes, duck plushy and Coco merch, but no niji stuff.
>>13444191>They really thought they can blow up like Myth did.I doubt it. I really doubt it.
I wonder how Sana is managing to do itshe is being stomped by even mf NijiEN, I think Elira even got higher numbers for her long Pokemon sessions. Is kind of funny she got more number with her lastest horoscope skit than with the new Pokemon
>>13443306It depends on the girl anonchama. If they don't want to collab with another vtubers outside Hololive why would you force them?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63KLaX5OXHw
>13444489retard
>>13444432Don't worry. He reacted to wave 3 of nijien and was very unenthusiastic.
>>13444349she never asked but she might, and she did get permission on Uncharted (and several other sony games already)just need someone to suggest ghost of tsushima to her on chat and hope she pick it uprecently someone mention Last of Us and miko started asking permission yesterdaygiving her good relationship with sony she might get a chance to play those games one day
>>13444563He tries to be Unity, but you can tell he only really "likes" hololive
Huh what is this?
>>13444357He's pretty much the OG of Holo reaction channels at this point, it's part of his brand.
>>13444563well it's wave 3 after all
>>13444590He's never been the same after Coco ...
>>13444593>Hololive>liverMemelords messing up twitter
>>13443697>Nijisanji videoFucking gross. I lose all respect for any vtuber fan who says they watch Nijisanji. Seriously, how can you have standards that low?
>>13444027>he doesn't knowYou know Miko didn't really rape Pekora right?
>>13444593nijiniggers spread their shit
>>13444712He's paid
>>13444593https://twitter.com/X8wZ0d1ihrddHXp/status/1463053879709356033?t=7fkHm-1QuAk38bbO7AWTGQ&s=19seems like it trended because of these personality tests(?) things i think, then people who saw it in the trend start arguing on whether to call hololive members "livers" and shit
>>13444712>>13444253>>13444432>>13444563Goddamn, what discord did you fucks crawl out of? Sincere or not this is too much. I'm kinda sick of our shit shooting /sp/ thread getting invaded by actual tribal autists who really love BRAND.
>>13444737And Marine didn't have hot steamy seeg with Shion
>>13444748Is hololive taking the term liver from nijisanji?
Are you guys really holofags? or just nijifags pretending to be one so that you can say "Holofags are Coping"I'm also a strictly Hololive only, but i don't post shit like this if the opposing team wins.
>>13444779Where do you think you are?
>>13444799if you take one liver, you survive. if you take both you'll die. nijiniggers can keep it to their selves
Leona...
Towa must've been feeling superior seeing that she got the highest ccv in this Overwatch Collab lmao.Her Hololive friends (Botan and Peko) are too strong afterall.
>>13444642So he is using Nijisanji as a rebound.
>>13444941just a slightly taller midget among midgets kek
>>13444593seems like some newfags that only watched nijisanji so far have discovered hololive and they are calling them "livers" too, so some holofags are making fun of them and some are seething, the usual thing
Took a while, but Pekkers just reached 40k mark
>40k Get
>40k Pekora on the goddamn fourth gymMaybe pekora being shit at pokemon was blessing or a calculated move.
>>13444973Why would holoniggers care? I know in english liver sounds absolutely retarded and I laugh at every nijifag that uses it but it's different in Japan. Some holomems call themselves livers.
>>13443683>Gura>top tierChumpedo hands wrote this post
>>13444992>>13444996Too Bad she won't be able to win the day with those numbers.Noel Danchou, i'll believe in our power and tits. I wanna see some 60k+ tonight.
>>13445022
>>13445025A coping nijinigger wrote this
>>13445025Wish you have eyes, Chink
>>13444931Let's be honest here, no one watches Leona for her gaming streams
>>13445022Hololive fans are exposed to a lot of English and they know how stupid liver sounds.
>>13445022>holomems call themselves livers.Link?
>>13445098Median of CCV peaks, 2021 till Nov 22
>>13444931She’s fine, her utawaku get 1200+ viewers lately. Just not gaming streams.
>>13445098Where's Niji in this? Gura wouldn't even be in top 10 if this were the combined list
>Selen 3k at APEX againHolobros...how do we cope?
>>13445163kek
>>13445163Do nijiniggers really?
>>13445167Is she reclining? I recall Selen getting better numbers than that back when she was courting Kanae. 3k doesn’t look like tournament numbers
>>13445163Kuzuha would kick Gura one place down at best. Maybe the main channel too, which will still place Gura at top 10.>>134451673k is just normal for Selen Apex. No one cares except poor NijiENfags creaming at 3k CCV.
>>13445167>tournament day>only 2.8kPekora would slap this midget dragon.
>>13444593Liver was a Japanese term for vtuber streamers for years.
>>13445201>3k is just normal for Selen Apex.But this is tournament numbers.
>>13445167Ohhh Nooo how scary, Freaking motherfucking 3k in a supposed "tournament day"???Meanwhile Gura only got 25k, how can we even compete Holobros?
>>13445098How do we save Aruran?
>>13445167eww bug
>>13443697This fucking clip is 8 months old you fucking clowns
>>13445167Where is the 3 anon?
>>13445222I bet that hashtag got many responses because of someone trying to falseflag / shitpost and going “Holofan here, but why are Hololive livers etc. etc.” like they do here, for guaranteed Twitter (you)s
Anyone knows why fourth gym is a buff?
>>13445279I remember his Axolotl arc. What was his peak during that time?>>13445289It's still proof that he was paid to react to Niji.
>>13445232Didn't read the title.That's sad then. Going by Niji foreign branch's cursed cycle, is Selen next to graduate?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpx_o7ko7hwit reached 500k views
>>13445306Not before sucking all the viewers to herself and turning her branchmates into 2views.
Let's see... 3k Sana, good job, slowly getting that core audience and sweet SCs! 3k Bae, very nice, getting that Korean audience, HoloKR soon and Niji will suck us off! 3k Selen? What the fuck? That's embarassing numbers, can you stop posting midgets here? We only talk about real numbers in this thread.
>>13445289NTA but they were talking about how Koefficient was paid to react to Nijisanji clips/memes, therefore it's not impossible to assume that every Niji reaction video is paid/sponsored by Niji. Which tbf, we have had confirmation from other people like Nagz and Lost Pause that they were also paid by Niji to react to Nijisanji memes
>>13445306She'll graduate to be part of HoloEN 3.
>>13445341no chinks allowed
>>13445333There there anon, I'm sure someone will comfort you to sleep at night once you've played enough victim.
>>13445333That’s some tasty seething but if you look at >>13445098 Sana median is 5.7k and Baelz, 6.9k
>>134453333k for tournament on her buff game.Baelz can get more than that on most of her non debuff streams lol.Sana, well I'll kneel to Selen if she beat's Sana's median CCV.
>>13445163>>13445201>Kuzuha would kick Gura one place down at best. Maybe the main channel too, which will still place Gura at top 10.You're not wrong.>>13445098 (hololive)>>13411939 (nijisanji)Even with the recency bias of Niji's data Gura still manages to stay in the top 5, with only Kuzuha being above her if you don't count the niji main channel.
>>134453333k tournament? Kek
>>13445353Really?
>>13445340I don't think nagz got paid. He never chooses what vtuber clips he watches.Don't know about lost pause.
>>13445426really
>>13445426She will be Japanese
>>13445222>Liver was a Japanese term for vtuber streamers for years.Stop lying in this thread faggot
>>13445340Is this true?
I think JP bots their CCV guysI take a look at HololyzerPekor and Marine got 30k+ constantly, but the Unique User/member in chat not even 10k peopleWhile Gura with 20k CCV has 15k+ Uniques in chat
>>13445371She's beating it today. So did Elira. Sana's Median is only about 5.8k. Elira's and Selen's are 2.6k. It's doable.
>>13445340So when will we starts numberfagging reaction channels?
>>13445481>barks
>13445481Starting the JP vs EN Timeloop again...Nijis actually have a very high chance of winning gold y'know. So stop starting shit.
>>13445481JP doesn't bot but EN's views are getting culled. If you go by her unique chatters and crazy VOD views considering her CCV its obvious that Gura is really getting something like 30-35k viewers per stream.
>>13445481It's not JP botting their CVs, it's Susan culling EN views by up to 150%. If you correct for the CCV cull all the ENs should get at least 10k-15k extra on top of what they already have.
>>13444563He seemed over the moon about Council though.
>>13445481Don't you love how the knee jerk conclusion to everything unusual is >bots
>>13445540>all the ENs should get at least 10k-15k extrakek
>>13445540Holy mother of cope
>>13445545He's a holofan that pretends to be unity.
>>13445464https://seesaawiki.jp/hololivetv/d/%A5%DB%A5%ED%A5%E9%A5%A4%A5%D6>20名のライバーに正月衣装を実装Stop being retarded eop and use google for once
>>13445570I know the cull is real but their cull number is like the holocaust number, it gets bigger every time someone mentions it lmao.
>>13444563The entire fanbase was unenthusiastic about wave 3. Their numbers have been pathetic and they have been a massive disappointment.
>>13445481This is probably disingenuous but you know that JOPs are less likely to chat than EOPs right? Most dumbfuck EOPs with a keyboard will chat at some point, the percentage of JOPs who will is lower. I'm not going to go into CCV culling because honestly anons trying to figure out what the approximate percentages are may as well be waving around ceremonial staffs around a sacrificial altar praying RNjesas to grant them a number. There's no real point to doing any of this either since HoloEN is a success by the numbers that we DO know, regardless of what that fucking zhang shitposts about.
>>13445540Agree with the culling but it's more like percentage instead of fixed number, I guess
Peko is getting some enormous numbers this month and managing to sustain them too. Is this the quarter she manages to knock off Amouranth?
>>13445593It'll be 200% soon.
>>13445628No she won't.
>>13445628long shot unless they stop counting amouranth's restreams.
>>13445619Stop deifying Japanese, anon. They write KUSA even more than us write lol.
>>13445591Yeah not hololive>所属する女性タレントのグループです。
well is pekora guaranteed #2 at least?
>>13445540>It's not JP botting their CVs, it's Susan culling EN views by up to 150%I'm so tired of globalfags trying this cope to deflect from ENs poor performance. Youtube is not specifically targeting Hololive EN, it should be calculating JP CCV in the exact same way. It's a level playing field. If numbers are being culled they're being culled in the exact same proportion meaning comparisons are completely valid. Unless you can give a believable reasons why Youtube is cutting EN CCV while leaving JP unaffected you're full of shit. It's the same platform.
>>13445593The cull seems to be as big as the adblock adoption rate of each country. 15%-20% for JP and 25%~ for EN. If you actually measure their numbers between the months it ends up being about this on average. A good example is Kuzuha, who's fanbase is 99% japanese, lost 18% when the cull hit.
>>13445628Miko is doing super well this month too. Neither of them will beat Amouranth but its possible #2 will be Pekora and #3 will be Miko. If only Marine and Gura streamed more than 4 out of the top 5 biggest female streamers could be Hololive members. They get the viewers to be on that list they just don't put in the hours.
>>13445643Amouranth average ccv aren't the same though since her ban. It goes from 15k to 8-10k
>>13445655I'm not deifying them you twat, truth of the matter is JOPs are less likely to chat, they're typically more withdrawn than your average EOP. That's not to say they're any better, they're just different.
>>13445643They should. Counting replays is bullshit. Plus they're calculating Pekoras hours viewed wrong and understating it by millions of hours viewed.
>>13445660https://www.amazon.co.jp/バーチャルYouTuber-バーチャルライバー-Hololive-Inugami-90cmX60cm/dp/B08B18KWFT
>>13445667No because of the sankisei singing relay.
>>13445676JPs are being affected but they're losing 20%~ rather than a whopping 25%~
>>13445628Not sure if the 2nd girl is done with her subathon/endurance, it could challenge Pekora's position
>>13445628tricky since although november has been a good month for her, the october was an underperformance too.
>>13445707NTA but that's only 5%, that takes Gura, for example, from ~20k average to a 21k average if we use the JP cull as the baseline. It's a difference yes, but it's not huge.
>>13445712She ended the subathon for Thanksgiving. Should be no threat to Pekora.
>>13445660https://tower.jp/article/feature_item/2021/06/11/4004I can do this all day (but not really assed to) since there are about 1,500,000 results for ホロライブ ライバー search results in google.
>>13445744All you have to do is go by her high VOD views and unique chatters to realize that Gura most likely gets 40k viewers per stream.
>>13445022it's actually nijinigger setthing saying liver is nijisanji trademark
>>13445628For all her numbers this month her watch hours are in line with the rest of the year, for the simple reason that she's streamed less overall. Her watch hour / stream average this month is her best so far for the year however. Keeping this pace with some extra streams she might have her best watch hour in a month.But the power of the coom and restreams of twitch she wont beat.
>>13445768Just add 20k to any Gura stream and that is her acutal viewership.
I think you should keep track of Pokemon/nuzlocke YouTubers. They will react to hololive in the near future.
>>13445712At most Pekora's getting 3.5 million hours watched, so yes, these 2 at the top.Valkyrae barely streamed on the other hand, so Miko might be in 4th place.
Can we save the JP vs EN, and EN culling shit for downtime please. Not during near JP prime time.
>>13445704i meant on the female streamer watchhours this quarter
>>13445800>It's 4PM in SEA rnYou fucking hope
Can a numberfag tell me just how many resources Pekora has wasted trying to catch this one Houndoom? Thanks.
>>13445744I'm just trying to point that out. It's just a case where a molehill is turning into a mountain in people's heads. >>13445768>cultural difference in chat behavior doesn't existOkay. Give the direct comparisons before and after the cull. Protip: JPs range from 15%-20% and ENs range from 20%-25%. Yes the cut is slanted against ENs but your ridiculous if you think it makes up the gap most of the time. Also consider the cull is just a scaler and the fact that HoloEN had been trending down since then implies recline.
>13445768Anon, I like Gura but that's exaggerated, go throw your bait posts at somebody else.Also, before anyone complains I used ~20k just because I'm too lazy to use the real number which I know is higher. My point is that the 5% culled isn't a huge number if we go by Adblock adoption rates. I'm not sure if I buy that theory however and like I said before any speculation on that may as well be fucking astrology.
>>13445837>>13445800Why are they even doing EN vs JP tho? Didn't Maimotot had 54k? That should win the day
>>13445789I always wonder about how Pekora feels about going from the slums of NND to becoming the #2 streamer in the world and pulling 30k+ viewers regularly. She's a numberfagger so she's happy about it of course but she's at a point she would have never imagined she'd be at realistically 4-5 years ago.
>>13445864the day never ends without one anon, how new are you?
>>13445842To many is the answer, but her suffering is bringing her a higher peak.
>>13445698But according to the stats, the Japanese that do chats, do so twice the amount of EOP. What are you going to say about that?6000 uniques in Marine Chat yielded 45k total chatsWhile Gura needs 13k uniques to do the sameStreaming time is similar
>>13445842She is turning Pokepesos into really money
Just came back from my trip, what’s this? Nijisanji will really take the gold two days straight with normal streams? Toya Pokémon and now Maimoto, what a comeback!
>>13445916So based on those unique chatters Gura's viewership is in reality twice as high as Marine's? That is exactly what I expected.
>>13445953Toya animal crossing, I mean
>>13445953Two days straight? Didn't Subaru win gold yesterday?
>>13445953Anon...Toya got beaten yesterday
>>13445953duck won yesterday
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gh9nx9kdiQ4VALIS, a vsingers group concert live stream (free part)
not even the anon but i hate how this thread never understands simple sarcasm the slightest bit
>>13445953https://youtu.be/SI7ECYSeah8>Blocks your path
>>13445999>>13446013>>13445953It's the usual "I just came back, but surely Niji won and didn't slip" anon.
>>13446014>4k viewershipSad performance. Absolute midgets.
>nijinigger can't count to 2
Cumbuds shitting up the thread more than nijiniggers today
>>13445953>Nijisanji will really take the gold two days straight*Sigh*Anons ... How do we tell him ...
>>13446014Polka's circus friends...
>>13446043The "chumbuds" are just falseflagging Nijiniggers. It's been proven many times.
>>13446031This entire board is filled with redditors, the common sign of sarcasm is /s
>>13445799Not when Poki started streaming again And she was on with Saddummy. Even her average ccv is now higher than before, so Poki is almost guaranteed 3rd place. Best Miko can do is 5th place, even that requires some luck.
>>13445953Is he the true savior of niji?
>>13446063Thanks nigger /s
>>13446109Yes. The King's back finally broke and he's now just a silverboy.
Nooblet question here, but something I just thought about now. When looking at sub counts on Holostats, if you filter by "Last 30 days" for example and you see several Holos that have the exact same sub gain, what then determines how it's ordered? Is it alphabetically via the name or by who actually gained the most (within the increments that you can't see).
>>13445481>chat I'm a SEAfag and i never chat or post anything on their channel
>>13446014The whole part is a free part eop
From some quick back of a napkin math Pekora currently has as many viewers as the next 14 highest chuuba streams combined
>>13445916OK, how does this disprove anything I said? JOPs are less likely to chat, but if they do chat they will chat more. Those aren't mutually exclusive, for one to not chat they must be too shy or unwilling to chat. If one does chat, nothing says they can't chat more. Plus, Gura has slow mode, Marine doesn't. There's literally no point to even go on about this, regardless of how much Gura's numbers are culled by she's still amongst the top performing Holos in CCV, reigns king in subs and, if we take member polls etc. as a floor, has the highest membership floor (also likely the highest membered holo). Why even argue about her CCV beating other top performers as if it mattered? The only ones who ever complain about her numbers are falseflaggers who hide behind Pekor and Marine's numbers and complain about her performance because her subcount means she must perform better or else she's literally the worst Holo. Last (You).
>>13446161This is Pekora at 5% of her power. She's at the point where she's just letting other vtubers wail on her while she yawns and gets ready to blow them away by slightly flexing her abs
>>13446037
Why do people try to use magic to explain the cull 11 months later when we have direct before and after numbers from that time here >>13443154?JP lost 27% and EN lost 36%. With that exact math in drives Gura up to 33k, Pekora to 40.5k and Marine to 37.8k for the year. Gura is doing well but she doesn't go up a rank. Everyone lost viewers, not exclusively HoloEN.
>>13445979Or Marine audience is comprised of 6000 super schizos that chat a lot + another 24000 super herbivores that don't chat at all, not even once. Take your pick.
Got a question.Noel will start at 23:30JST right? Assuming she got 60k past the day, will that be counted for today and get her Gold? Or it'll be for tomorrow?
>>13446105Miko can beat Poki this month but it require her to stream consistent and Poki to not stream consistent. Miko has 1.5 million watch hours, Poki 1.4 million.
>>13446133I could check the source (I think it’s on GitHub), it could be anything, even alphabetical order of channel id
>>13446217That would count for today
>>13445683The problem with Marine is she likes to avoid the current trendy game so it hurts her numbers.
>>13445799I don't see 3.5 million, maybe 3.2-3.3 million if she pushes for it. She's currently at ~2.3 million not counting today.
>>13446204Plus you can clearly see the only month Holo EN inclined since debut was their new costume reveals. It's been a progressive downslide since January, after the supposed cull.
>>13445067it is not pronounced like that it's "ra i ba" like in "life"
>>13446247That's why she is the perfect partner for Pekora
>>13446192How about you stop acting like you know everything about JP bros, nigger
>>13446217The streams count for the day but if (big if) she passes much after the grace period extended to Kuzuha for that one time (he didn’t make it) Maimoto would take it
>>13446204She doesn't need to go up a rank when she's already dominating every other vtuber combined in subs, VODs and merch.
>>13446269No one says it out loud, they read it.
>>13446014Sorry, I don't watch Nijiniggers
>>13446133I think it's ordered by entry date, with the most recent at the top. I'm not sure though since I am not a programmer and can't parse the code beyond trial and error.
>>13446266The last chart shows that they're inclining again tho.
>>13446240>>13446299Ohh thanks for the info>>13446299So if for example Noel stream (which started at 23:30JST) lasted for too long and only got past 55k after say 4-5hours. It won't be counted?
>>13446282YWNBJ
>>13446282Do you know them?
Double slip?
>>13446383When did the stream start? There's your answer
>>13446422No but i feel pathetic when i won't be one of the JP brosSo stop reminding me, nigger>>13446387I seaniggers like you
>>13446383The closing point on live-ranking for updating the top streams of the day is 1AM JST so that puts a ceiling there. But anons would consider at most a 10 min “spillage” over midnight acceptable otherwise the stream clearly got its peak in the next day and should count for the next day(But it wouldn’t)That’s a scenario so rare I hope it happens just for the seethe and the banter
Riku pfp meme is picking up a lot of steam on Twitter in my region. Some artist already drew him in the style of Buff Yagoo already.
>>13446422Mah Grandpa is Japanese, I know more than you, faggots.
>>13446223unlikely since miko will take a short break starting this weekend I think
>>13446494Won’t burgers take a thanksgiving break or something?
In other newsDaisenpai's new album om 24thhttps://twitter.com/tokino_sora/status/1463061973482958848
Since we don't know membership number, but based on CCV and other factors so far, is it safe to assume that Gura's membership has already veen surpassed by Marine and Marine already?
* ongoing streams top 15, unfiltered *
>>13446560Go home anon, you’re clearly drunk
>>13446558Wonder how it will fare against niji cover album releasing on the same day
>>13446494Yea, if she goes and break and poki keeps streaming there is no chance. But then again, she's starting the Pokemon game today, so it will give her decent watch hours due to the length of the streams. It's all about if Miko can outlast Poki.
>>13446564Is it me or most FPS blokes are playing anything but APEX these days. Something massive happened or it’s just some sort of inbetween seasons thing?
>lost argument and cope about JOPs last samurai style>nobody bites the bait>resorts to using even shittier baitTake your meds already schizo.
>>13446560she might have beaten Marine, but did she beat Marine? i have my doubts!
>>13446560Based on how brown your arm is I can assume you had go at least to your stomach to pull that shit out of your ass.
On other less important news, Ollie with the out-of-the-box collab https://twitter.com/ZenGunawan/status/1463077362950496265
>>13446626With the changes to apex movement (removed a technique tandhat only PC players could do because 'muh console parity) and the addition of Seer (who basically is THE anti-camping legend right now), Apex is in decline since it's high during Summer. Not sure if it'll ever bounce back, but for now people are less inclined to play it
>>134460144.5k for a sub 100k group channel isn't that bad, but the 600$ donations wouldn't be enough to cover this stream if they didn't have some sponsors.
Suisei's Twitter Space
>>13446606One is the company-wide album, the other is just Sora's. Also this day there are three cover albums being released from vtubers, what the fuck.
>>13446683Why is she like this?
>>13446729Are they an Indy group? If they can Collab again with Polka or AZKi they might grow
>>13446368True but let's see if it holds. There is just no denying that there has been a downward trend for HoloEN regardless of the cull since the cull is just a scaler.
>>13446842>>13446729They are joining Kamitsubaki actually.
Man, other than Astel and Roberu, the Holostars numbers seem to be falling off a cliff this month.They've been on a downward trend all year with just a few boosts, but not even getting 200 for the new game?Aruran himself only once passed 500 peak all week...from his 16-17 streams.
>>13446718They didn't delete tap strafing, they wanted to but seeing how they got shit for this decision they decided to delay it indefinitely. Servers being shit and many bugs probably affected the popularity of the game too.
Does anyone think that HoloEN is a bit too slow in debuting new members?They should have debuted new members a bit faster until they have about 15-20 members and then slowed down to the phase they are currently at.
>>1344674910K now, IDK if those are good numbers.
>>13446831Why not? After all, it's the domestic market that ID having issue with, no?
so many overlap for holo gen3 relay, niji gold confirmedbetter luck tomorrow holobro
>>13446887Oh, they didn't remove it huh, didn't follow closely enough to know they delayed that decision. I agree though that the servers shitting themselves for a month+ is definitely the big one though, can't watch if people can't even get games reliably.
>>13446897If you treat Holo EN and Holo JP as separate entities, yes
>>13446915Why nijiid and not maha5?
>>13446897no, if you want so many new member switch to nijien
>>13446683Zen is out of the Box now?He's collabbed with pretty much every ID member, from Holo, Niji or indie, even with the shy members.He even serenaded Moona for 5 minutes on her birthday.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5Xm_csfeIUEveryone in ID collabs.
>>13446939That's Maha5.
>>13446940I'm not saying to get new members as fast as NijiEN.where they debut new members every 3-4 months.Just that Council and Irys should have debuted 1-2 months earlier than they did, and then release another gen after 4-5 months after that.
>>13446949Out of the box as in the Holobox anonShould have made myself clear
>>13446749Whats the appeal of a twitter space?