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1296819 No.1296819 [Reply] [Original]

After what Coco said about Haachama's situation, I felt like there was something I was forgetting. And it popped in my mind just now.

Is Haachama's privated content collateral from Suichan's month-long demonetization? Is that why Suichan had a fight with her manager, as mentioned in her remonetization stream - because she didn't want such rules being instituted?

>> No.1296859

Suisei got demonitized for keeping her English karaoke stream archive up for a whopping 40 minutes, it has nothing to do with what you're thinking.

>> No.1296928
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1296928

>>1296859
Ok.

Feel free to use this thread for shitposting, retarded rrats and not taking your meds then.

>> No.1296935

>>1296819
also why does only coco talking about it?

>> No.1297021

>>1296935
She's the only other person that would do similar content.
Remember the Kanata hanging asacoco CM?

>> No.1297041

>>1296935
Because she had to cancel shitpost review this week due to the new rules leaving her with no usable memes.

>> No.1297048

>>1296935
She's a dramatard. Whenever there's a drama you can bet 8/10 it's her

>> No.1297087

>>1297021
Kanata had joined in the horror content recently though. But she didn't go as hard as Haachama.

>> No.1297231

>>1297048
>talking about the new rules
>"what a dramatard"

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Whipped something up for you folks with a favorite /tg/ picture and some good ol' MSPaint.

>> No.1297851

>>1296935
She did the same for the heimin when Kanata went through the hospital and meetings arc, keeping us updated every now and then.
Why she does it? probably because she cares, i'm just glad someone is there to inform the fans when stuff like this happens.

>> No.1300774

Coco is leading a mutiny against Cover. YAGOO and the rest of upper management are fully aware of it, as she makes no effort to hide it, but since she hasn't actually broken any terms of her contract, he can't fire her.

She's planning to be the head of another Vtuber group with a bunch of other Hololives (and Holostars, as well as a couple others that aren't affiliated with Cover) once their contracts with Cover expire.

Currently, Haachama, Suisei, Miko, Choco, Pekora, Rushia, Marine, Mel, Towa, Lamy, Nene, Polka, Gura, Amelia, Astel and Roberu are all working together with Coco and planning their eventual exit. Aloe is also on board. That isn't to say that some of the others aren't considering it, but these are the ones actively planning to leave at the moment.

A whole bunch of them are severely pissed at Cover, not just because of these new rules, but because a lot of other shit that's been going on behind the scenes for a while.

YAGOO is currently shitting himself, by the way, since all of this is known. Almost everyone has been pretty open about their intent to graduate once their contract is up. There's also a number of Cover staff that are planning their exit alongside the talent as well.

By this time next year, Hololive is pretty much going to be dead.

>> No.1300845

>>1300774
Cocofags had been saying this since September

>> No.1300908

>>1300774
you could literally be using this overactive imagination of yours to be doing your reps or even starting your own vtuber company instead of LARPing as a falseflagger on a forum full of unmedicated schizos arguing with each other

>> No.1301072

>>1300845
>>1300908
Nope, not LARPing. This isn't just some random conspiracy theory. I can say with 100% certainty that this is what is taking place.

For the record, I don't know what the ID Hololive's opinions are on the mutiny. I do however know that there's a few that have been openly NOT wanting to leave: Namely Sora, AZKi, Fubuki, Okayu, Calliope and Kiara. Everyone else is still up in the air.

>> No.1301254

>>1300774
This sounds like some qanon stuff.

>>1301072
If Fubki stays, Mio probably stays.
Either Korone/Oyaku leaves, the other does too.

>> No.1301438

>>1296935
Probably because she's a foreigner who is extremely successful and well liked by her peers. Foreigners get some extra leeway in dealing with Japanese cultural trait of "just listen to whatever your higher ups say and don't question it". Between that, having a lot of coworkers who like her, and pulling in a ton of $ for the company they won't give her any real retaliation for saying something like that.

>> No.1301509

>>1297021

Haachama and Coco are truly the best holos in so many ways

>> No.1301594
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>>1300774
I will go wherever Pekora goes

>> No.1301772

>>1297041
You know, as much as Chammers situation pains me, it's that part about cancelling shitpost review that bothers me. Most of those memes were normie as fuck - how strict those rules have to be to make it impossible to find enough memes to do the stream?
Will it also remove stuff like +18 games gameplay? Stuff like Korone's yubi yubi, Suicopath, Yandere Rushia?
Also I'm really curious what Haachama is going to came up with, since I'm almost sure she won't enjoy going back to her old Haato persona anymore.

>> No.1301801

>>1300774
>miko
>rushia
>lamy
I knew/figure why for the rest but what are their reasons?

>> No.1301839

>>1300774
Dude. Take your meds.

>> No.1302046

>>1301072
>>1300774
I can't believe Kanata isn't supporting her wife

>> No.1302047

>>1300774
>all of this is known.
>>1301072
>Nope, not LARPing

LARPing up your ass.

>> No.1302050

>>1301254
stop giving them (You)s
at least if they're LARPing this, they're not pushing dumber stuff like q

>> No.1302081

>>1300774
If there is one thing I love more than Vtubers, it's meltdowns and drama.
Only issue is I imagine Cover has ownership of the design, no? Are they just gonna make a run for it?
Great rrat though. I love rrats posted on /vt/, ogey.

>> No.1302102

>>1302050
rrat: this is q's new form

>> No.1302168

>>1300774
oh boy, the time traveler /jp/ussy is right after all?

>>1302081
I guess all gonna reincarnate, like aloe

>> No.1302327

>>1301254
Korone and Oyaku are only a couple for the sake of their characters. Same with every other pairing. Granted lots of them are actual friends, but sometimes friends don't agree on business.

>>1301801
I don't know WHY, I just know that this is what is going around.

>>1302081
Obviously Cover has the rights to everyone except for Suisei. They'll end up with different avatars but the people and their style of content will remain the same.

>> No.1302442

>>1302327
Wait they have the rights for Miko as well? Maybe I remember it wrong but weren't she actually indie before joining holo?

>> No.1302492

>>1301438
This was always my take on it as well.

>> No.1302510

>>1302327
>I just know that this is what is going around.
And where exactly is this is going around?

>> No.1302571

>>1302442
Yes, Cover presumably has the rights to her. It's just that Cover did not have her as a part of Hololive initially.

>> No.1302602

>>1302327
>n-no I'm not larping g-guysss~
post your source pussy

>> No.1302644

>>1302602
His uncle works at Cover

>> No.1302657

>>1301509
Honestly unironically agree
Holometh for life

>> No.1302787

>>1302510
Pretty much everyone involved with Cover is talking about it. I'm not the guy that initially posted that but everything he said is true.

>>1302602
You do realize that we can't do that or we could get in a hell of a lot of trouble, right? But seriously, you don't think that this board gets read by a bunch of us?

>> No.1302883

>>1301594
This, but I need Migo too

>> No.1302899

>>1302787
>Pretty much everyone involved with Cover is talking about it. I'm not the guy that initially posted that but everything he said is true.
holy fuck man just post a source already it shouldn't be that fucking hard

>> No.1302939

>>1302787
We ask femanons to post their tits or GTFO, why should you be different?

>> No.1302972

>>1300774
>Marine
She just forked over 50k for a project. What a shitty rrat.

>> No.1302983

>>1300774
ogey

>> No.1303017

>>1297048
>drama
kill yourself

>> No.1303056

Does asacoco being a psychotropic drug fall under the dark humor rule?

>> No.1303068

While more than likely BS, sure would be nice if it actually was true

>> No.1303082

>>1303068
not really

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>>1300774
I will follow Polka anywhere

>> No.1303097

>>1302972
only for it to be sunk by that menhera doujin writer?

>> No.1303138

>>1303097
No, that's Cover's project.
She has some other project planned, I haven't kept up so I'm not sure if she has stated anything more about it.

>> No.1303196

>>1302327
No way since suisei model got upgraded by them she might sign a contract regarding it thus shes not the only one that own the model

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>>1300774
Damn, these kind of posts don't get any (you)'s in /hlg/ anymore but they seems to work like a charm here.

>> No.1303334

>>1301072
kek, this was already bad enough, but saying Fubuki wouldn't leave? Fubuki "I won't be silenced or have my hand forced by Cover, I'd rather leave outright", that Fubuki?
Too funny.

>> No.1303491

>>1303307
people here are kinda special

>> No.1303527

>>1300774
I believe this because Coco has been moving more of her content to her roommate channel, and especially subs. Opening memberships on roommate account is fucking huge.

>> No.1304814

>>1300774
I wish

>> No.1304871

>>1303307
Well, they are fun and creative, so it's fun to engage with them. Guess you can call them shizo replacement for when Haachama's on break, at least for me.

>> No.1305146

>>1296935
Coco gives no fucks. They were probably told not to mention it.

>> No.1305208

>>1300774
If you want people to believe this narrative why in the world wouldn't you include kanata, Coco's lesbian wife?

>> No.1305494

>>1297048
>Coco is a rratard

>> No.1312330

btw, Haato broke down playing this game because it reminded her too much of her actual schizophrenia induced hallucinations

>> No.1312509

>>1296819
The monetization thing is a different matter. Miko and Mio also brought up suichan's situation and they sympatize but wont say why, neither did they mention any rule changes. Coco specifically brought it up in her superchat stream because someone asked.

>> No.1312545

>>1303307
/hlg/ is practically dead here and the /jp/ one is slow as well.

>> No.1314447

>>1300774
>No Kanata
>No Fubuki
Would've been a good rrat otherwise

>> No.1314501

>>1303307
At least these kind of rrats are still interesting, unlike the uninspired one-liner bait Zhang or SEAnigs usually put out

>> No.1314735

>>1300774
>Coco is leading a mutiny against Cover.
Schizo shit aside this is a pretty tidy way to explain the restriction that seems to be in place about the EN girls collabing with Coco (or even mentioning her on stream). EN are the new golden goose and Cover want to keep a hold of them and not let them slip away.
However, I wouldn't go so far as to buy into the list of mutineers anon provided, they seem like a random assortment of names with no real links to each other.

>> No.1316064

>>1314735
As long as we are larping. Here's my take.

>Mutineers
Coco and Haachama at the front. Kanata because she will follow Coco.
Suisei, if she felt Cover is detrimental to her and because spite runs though her veins.
Fubuki is you can convince her that Cover is actively malicious rather and incompetent. Obviously, Mio, Okayu, and Korone will follow.
Matsuri leaves if she secures a job with Nijisanji. Mel leaves because she wants something different, same with Choco.

>Loyalists
Sora stays, because Sora. Miko stays because she really has no reason to leave, same with Roboco. AZKi stays because contracts.
AkiRose stays because starting over might feel too much of a hurdle for her.
Marine is too invested in Cover and might stay.

>Undecided
Gen2: Aqua, Shion, Ayame, and Subaru, though she might follow Mio.

Gen3: Flare, Noel, Rushia, Pekora, though she stay, same reason as Marine.

Gen4: Luna, Towa. Watame might leave for same reason as Suisei, except when she leaves she will probably get everybody at Cover a gift basket as a parting gift and her best wishes.

Gen5. All of them, Lamy might leave, same reason as Fubuki, and leaving some broken knees on her way out.

HoloID stays mostly because being there brings there more exposure than being indies. Iofi might leave and join Pochi's family.

HoloEN: Gura goes back to previous persona, struggles with expectations, retires. Calli cash out on her music career. Ame and Ina stay because they have no real reason to leave.
Kiara suffers a mental breakdown trying to decide between following Calli (knowing that she won't play with the yurishit outside of Hololive), fear of flunking outside of Hololive and staying in Hololive being an attention whore.

>> No.1316127

>>1316064
>Miko
>Marine
Well fuck, I couldn't cut out hololive entirely then. Your reasoning makes sense though.

>> No.1316151

>>1316064
I'm pretty sure Miko and Aki would go. They're both the only ones beside Kanata that have willingly collabed with Coco despite knowing it was gonna trash their chat, so they're obviously pretty good friends.

>> No.1316172

>>1316064
Thanks to Marine, I'm imagining this with Rimworld.

>> No.1316233

>>1316151
All it takes for Aki to leave is a dedicated ARK server.

>> No.1316252

>>1300774
Fake and gay but would also be pretty based. I'd just be worried about most of them trying to essentially build a completely new audience.

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>>1316064
Coming to a Netflix near you

>> No.1316562

>>1296935
Coco has more balls than most nip men. Also Coco legitimately likes and respects Haachama enough to let her stay at the Holohouse anytime uninvited.

>> No.1317278

>>1316064
Everyone stays because japanese have an unholy tolerance for eating corporate bullshit

>> No.1317337

wtf is a rrat

>> No.1317362

>>1317278
Don't ruin the fun with common sense.

>>1317337
ogeyrr.at

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>>1317337
it means lurk the fuck more

>> No.1318557

>>1301254
trust the rrat
two more collabs

>> No.1318657
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1318657

What exactly are the new rules? Searching through archives just said it was about gore and decapitations.

>> No.1318752

>>1296935
Because Hololive earnings depend mostly on her and she knows Hololive cannot touch her.

>> No.1319167

>>1300774
Wouldn't they all not be able to stay the same characters? I imagine cover owns all the characters. They'd all have to start from scratch in a sense.

>> No.1319585

>>1297041
no, the hololive subreddit just has no content, Coco was running out of material anyways since it became all about EN and apparently now they're making dumb memes about their site culture and shit, not to mention copyright nonsense since all memes are now becoming just "when thing happens: *screenshot of movie with subtitle*"

>> No.1319688

I now wholeheartedly believe this was Covers decision to take down her videos. If you want a example look at a YouTuber by the name of Corpse Husband. He has 7 million subscribers right now. And half of his content is narrating very fucked up stories. And YouTube doesn’t give one shit. This is Cover overeacting just like they did during the Holocaust. I’m done with them

>> No.1319710

>>1319688
that faggot trends every fucking day on twitter if he does so much as sneeze, if literally anything happens to his channel, his fans will literally burn down youtube HQ. meanwhile Haatons wouldn't do shit outside of make memes.

>> No.1319919

>>1302442
goddamnit, no newfag, Miko has always been with Cover, She was part of the Sakura Miko project before Hololive, which was also a Cover project That went tits up, and she was placed into Hololive.

She has no Vtubing history prior.

>> No.1319985

>>1319710
Yep pretty much. This fanbase has become such shit so fast. You have the people that don’t even watch streams yet still shitpost. Then you have the Reddit fags that feel the need to defend a corporation like it has feelings like a person.

>> No.1320023

Imagine being chinese

>> No.1320044

>>1320023
Imagine defending a corporation that doesn’t give a shit about you

>> No.1320690

>>1320044
so any corporation?
also chuubas != corporation

>> No.1320767

>>1317337
rrats are ogey

>> No.1320817

>>1316064
>Calli cash out on her music career.
Her music career is entirely dependant on being a part of hololive.
If she dropped the Calliope Mori persona she would just fade back into her previous obscurity.

>> No.1321230

>>1316064
>Fubuki
Fubuki is management though, chances is that if she leaves its for a higher management position not for another vtuber gig.

>> No.1321273

>>1297683
Based. Always dab on EDH retards whenever you can. Pandering to them ruined Magic.

>> No.1321328

>>1297021
Link?

>> No.1321646

>>1316064
>larping

>Marine is too invested in Cover and might stay.
Monetarily yes.
But once she cashes out that investment(project) there's absolutely nothing holding her back(if anything, the Avatar might be holding her back) considering the contact list she has gathered over the year doing SKDW and other promotions, she shouldn't have any trouble getting VA jobs.

As for rest of Gen3:
Rushia is anchored to fandeads
Flare and Noel might stay(no idea what their alternative could be?)
Pekora has million dollar voice (so-to-speak) so she has even less reason to stick around than Marine

>> No.1321669

>>1296935
She's a manager on hololive, so she knows she won't get called out for talking about internal rules and guidelines.

>> No.1321817

>>1320817
Doxxbeats are called doxxbeats for a reason anon. While their shitting up the board is bad, it does help Mori in this specific situation.

>> No.1322820

>>1319710
The amount of pure leeching that OfflineTV does off him is gross. I stopped watching their stuff completely when it became infinite AmongUs 4683IQ Play titles or CorpseHusband and ______ do _____. I thought they shilled Michael Reeves hard but they beat a dead horse alive again and YT algorithm continues to boost them.

>> No.1322887

>Suisei, (...) because spite runs though her veins
Fucking dying here.

>> No.1322989

>>1318657
We don't know.

Coco gave a very vague "dark stuff" description, and that's all we have other than what was privated.

>> No.1323598

>>1321646
Peko only leaves if she can get her SAD shit together and find a comedy gig. She's good with insert-foot-in-mouth humor, and just needs a partner to bounce that shit with. Ideally it's Miko, because they're both likeable dumbasses.

>> No.1324671

Kiara's Ryza streams can no longer be monetized. More drama to add to the fire.

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>>1318657
Only "no dark humor" is confirmed so far, but Coco hinted that there's more stuff.

Also pic related.

>> No.1326855

>>1300774
If I played along with your delusions I'd be rooting for the mutiny

But let's face it, none of them are qualified to be ceo, you picked the most random names out of the hat, and fubuki wasn't even mentioned as she would be the turning point.

>> No.1326896

>>1326736
The fuck is it against the rules to superchat when we get some meaty screenshots or something?

Anyone else playing it to compare if it's koei/YT rules or cover being fucked?

>> No.1327148

>>1326896
It's clearly fucking Koei. Those absolute jews were selling recolor costumes for 5 bucks a pop in DoA6, and multi-hundred dollar DLC is their standard practice for full-priced games. I bet they wanted a cut from Cover.

>> No.1328739

>>1300774
Is this rrat an Avengers civil war reference?

>> No.1329087

>>1296819
This is why I stopped watching Hololive. There's new drama every month! What's this time? Totally out of the loop.

>> No.1329404

>>1329087
I live for this shit. I'm tired of undertale apex and minecraft

>> No.1334670

Will Haachama burn Cover to the ground when she returns? Or will she indoctrinated into another Apex/Minecraft drone?

>> No.1334920

She can always tone down her character.

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>>1300774
rrat king, I kneel.

>> No.1335041

>>1320044
Man, you guys are really easy to bait aren't you?

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>>1321230
Source?

>> No.1335925

>>1334920
That would be completely OOC for her. Even when she was seiso idol Akai Haato, she was the most seiso anyone could be. She likes to pick a character trait and take it to 11. Who knows, maybe the next incarnation will be [MLG] Apex Predator Haachama with a 4+ k/d ratio hitting 1080 BVR noscope headshots on Gorilla, breaking Astel's spirit, and even bringing Botan out of retirement to try and stop her rampage.

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>>1335925
She can still play maximum schizo without the bloody and degenelate imagery.

Fatal1ty Chama would be really funny, though.

>> No.1336389

>>1336095
Physical horror and psychological horror are always closely coupled. I can't think of any good psychological horror films that didn't have at least some gore to increase impact. I wonder if she's seen any of Gaspar Noé's work...

>> No.1336524

>>1321273
Magic was already ruined when they introduced mythics but Commander is the cancer that made it terminal.

>> No.1336597

>>1334670

In order of most likely to least likely:

1. Haachama returns and finds new ways to be creative without pushing the rules to their limits (as much)

2. Haachama leaves Hololive and either goes independent or just goes to college and puts Vtubing on hold

3. Haachama returns, pushes the rules past their limits some more, and gets a more severe punishment such as a public 3 week suspension or even fired.

4. Haachama returns but gives up on being creative and just does Apex, Minecraft, and Japanese karaoke streams as Haato.

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>>1300774
If this happens I will forgive her for any transgressions. It will be the new Outer Heaven.

>> No.1342002

>>1300774
>YAGOO is currently shitting himself
You know who else is currently shitting themselves? Ayame, that’s who

>> No.1342046

>>1342002
>Ayame
Why?

>> No.1342123

>>1342046
Really bad intestinal problems

>> No.1342139

>>1342123
kek I knew it was literal
think of it I heard her tummy hurted during apex stream yesterday

>> No.1342359

>>1342139
Let’s hope she gets well soon

>> No.1346279

>>1326736
what's this about what

>> No.1346359

>>1346279
It's likely totally unrelated. Koei Tecmo USA gave HoloEN permission to play their games, but Koei Tecmo JP(the actual owner) tried to extort a cut from the superchats because Japanese companies don't understand streaming. So they just turned off superchats to avoid any issues.

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