/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>13245487
stupid move

>>13245487
A shame.

>>13245487
I'll fucking rape yagoo

>>13245487
He should've turned off the monetization

How the fuck did it even take this long?

Oh nyoooooooooo

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

>>13245487
Sucks but if a rights holder officially notified them of the channel they have a legal obligation to seek the removal of the videos. Strikes are a clumsy way to do that but they do get the point across very quickly.

>>13245487
>Copywriting someone elses songs that are half-assedly sung by an anonymous vtuber.

>>13245487
KEK THIS IS HOW COVER GIVES BACK TO THEIR FANS

>>13245487
Aren't these people, including clippers, the ones who do the actual work of spreading their fame? Imagine if they never get extra exposure aside from their own streams. People will most likely never found out about them in the first place.

>>13245660
fucking retarded leech

Based

>>13245813
Incoming Holobrony replies.

>>13245660
>songs
>monetization
KEKW

>>13245487
Good. Fuck clippers

>>13245660
Was it actually monetized, or just the ads they force on your videos if you have copywrite music? I haven't seen any particularly bad clipnigger behavior from this guy otherwise

>>13245487
Got too big clipping big yabai copyright songs triggering Jap autism. Probably the same reason Astel goes ape shit if he finds out people are archiving his singing streams. If hololivesings stuck to non unarchived karaoke shit he'd probably have been okay, but no one would have given a shit about his channel then because clip channels are a dime a dozen. Shame because I like having an archive of the unarchived shit

>>13245813
>ESL typo
spotted the clipnigger

>>13245941
Pretty sure at least 90% of the current vtuber audience got to know them through some sort of clips. Killing clippers is just like slitting your throat and hope you can sing.

Nip copyright can be a bitch. I just wish he stuck to song archival instead of uploading sub-minute clips like a leech.

Probably a bad idea to clip their unarchived singing streams. Those streams were unarchived for a reason

>>13245487
probably want to cover how bad gura sounds live vs heavily studio edited

>>13246090
And the reason is copyright which can cut off your monetization. None of the talents wanna risk that, but those song compilers or whatever the fuck you wanna call them are willing to take the risk instead.

>>13246054
kys clipniggers

>>13246054
good, fuck clippers, and fuck you, your family and everyone whose name starts with the same letter as yours does. I don't need any more fucking normalfags around here.

>>13246054
And that 90% should stop watching vtubers.

>>13246134
Hololive was popular because of clips you inbred.

>>13245813
Yes welcome to the real world, Nijishitty/Holotrannies would still be 2views if Japanese clippers never spread them around and made them popular in Japan. And now that they're big companies with millions of nerdy fans globally, they don't need you anymore so they're gonna shitcan you.

That's what happens when you trust Boomers.

>>13245941
This is worse than clipping. Whole songs are uploaded

>>13245781
BLACK COMPANY CONFIRME
WHEN WILL YOU HOLOBRONIES WAKE UP

>>13245487
As much as I hate clippers, why tho, they are the ones giving free advertisement and this is how they pay them back? stupid move whoever makes up for this

>>13246148
You'd be back to 2018 era. With those 3-4 digits at most, they wouldn't be able to pay off half of their talents' salary. Ironic weebs and tourists are annoyong, but you can't deny the fact that they've carried Hololive's ass.

>>13245487
Based fuck clippers, good on Cover for putting them in their place every once in a while.

>>13246191
It might screw over Cover that's why they're lashing out.

>>13246191
Going by his Twitter, they didn't actually strike him for his generic clips. They hit him for his singing clips (presumably those from unarchived streams, but I'm not totally sure). If he stuck to making clips, he probably would have been fine.

>>13245813
Actual clipper channels doesn't take the risk to upload clips of karaokes. Karaoke had always been subjected to copystrikes. They must've known the risk beforehand and just post clips of holos in a separate channel and not the karaoke one.

>>13246178
NOW I LOST IT

The channel uploaded unarchived karaoke clips.
Cover doesn't strike song unmonetized channels that just upload public song clips.
This channel deserved it.

>>13246191
>freebooter got banhammered for ripping and monetizing songs
>"but why tho? clippers pay the content creators back in clout"
the absolute state of clipfans

So how will holofags watch the unarchive streams now?
>Watch it live
Exactly. They do this to boost numbers. Just nuke all clippers then so people will move on from hololive.

>>13246358
no archive = no clips
That's the rule, Failure to comply it will result in strike from Cover

>>13246442
>Clippers legitimately think they pay Hololive in Exposure.
>They think this is worth anything.
Maybe the holos should pay the clipper in exposure in return.

>>13245487
Based

This dudes a fucking idiot for expecting it to stay up. If you wanna reupload unarchived shit you do it on random generic accounts splitting all that shit up.

>>13246150
What a disgusting lie.
Fubuki's scatman short was the reason. Clipper assholes compete with the Holo's shorts for views, they are 100% leeches.

>>13245487
Good.

>>13245813
Is this you?

>>13246583
>Fubuki's scatman
Nice narrative cover intern. It was the zhangs at hololive moments.

What right does Cover have to strike a new rendition of a song? Covering a song is a new piece of art, not the original and you don't need permissions for that.

>>13245956
You can opt out google ads for a channel you upload shit.
He just wanted to make some money from Holos, which is fucking retarded to reupload their songs anyways since they are already on their own channels

>>13246107
Rent free schizo.

>>13246150
Dont group clipniggers with translators.

He probably made $100,000 from ads already. He leeched and won why should I feel bad for him?

>>13246666
Same shit.

>>13246680
One takes effort, the other is just leeching retard. Even the JOP clippers put Japanese subtitles and add effects. Most of the EN clippers out there do jack shit and pump out a crapton of short clips for muh views.

>>13245487
Doesn't he also uses fanart as thumbnail?

>>13246632
Japanese Copyright Laws are different in relation to what Corporate representatives can do versus individuals. A 2view can upload any cover they want and nobody can say anything, but a Holo or Niji has to get permission from the IP holder to upload a cover as content.

>SEAniggers losing revenue
Good, I hope every single one of them dies.

>>13246638
depending on who the copyright holder is, your video will get ads forced onto it no matter what your settings are, and they get the money from it

>>13246774
Sure. But I thought this Hololivesings thing is just some random autistic guy, not a corp. What ground does Cover have to strike their cover?

>>13245487
>reupload content already pinned on others channel
>"welp they are copyright striking me"
lol lmao

>>13246675
stfu, i earn literal fuckin pennies

>>13246774
>>13246872
Oh wait, I'm retarded. For some reason I thought this was the /vt/ sings thing where multiple anons sing together, but this is just clips of hololive girls singing and not covers. My bad, fuck this guy.

>clipniggers are already coming to /vt/ to whine about ebil corporations taking control of their own property
You love to see it.

>>13246774
>a 2view can upload any cover they want and nobody can say anything
That's not quite right, the companies can still issue a lawsuit over that, it's just not worth it with a 2view. Same reason why Hololive wasn't struck for the games until when they started to blow up. There's no point to doing it.
>>13246632
You still need legal permission to post covers retard. Even under US copyright law you technically still need one, much less Japanese copyright law. Cover also does have the right to strike the shit people upload because the video in and of itself and their voice is Cover's and the talent's IP. They usually don't strike you down because >free advertising but they can if they need to. I'm guessing here it's probably due to concerns over the rights of the song.

There's precisely 0 reason for them to do this. They don't strike down dox and rrat channels ffs

>>13246872
Seems like it's focused on unarchived content, which is retarded because the line was drawn ages ago that public unarchived karaokes we're ok. Best case is it's some retarded intern at the main branch going down the list of clippers and copypasting the strike request without paying attention

>>13246922
They dont own the girls but they wish they do. They wish the girls would work for them till they are of elderly.

that's how hololive will die and niji will take the lead because they support their fans' literally free advertisement, mark my words

>Cover does this
>Dox shit still up and going in PLAIN SIGHT
Fucking retards.

>>13246774
>A 2view can cover anything
Robert Fripp says otherwise (and Nina Satome has had all her karaoke archives blocked on YouTube)

>>13246946
Report it and they'll do it
Hololivehistorian go so fucked by cover that the police came knocking on his door twice

>>13246983
i am pretty sure reuploading Niji songs and Cover won't end well too

>13246983
>niji supporting fanwork
at least put more than 2 seconds into your bait

Next time just don’t fucking clip Karaoke streams retards. Go back to your normal clickbaity streams.

>>13246990
Doxx shit are constantly getting taken down but since they are seaniggers they ofter just make another one.

>>13245487
Shit. This is the most active holo karaoke archive channel and Cover treat him like this?

Just because some people probably still don't get why they may have had to do something like this, read this: https://en.hololive.tv/terms . Here's the spoonfeed of the relevant bit here:
>Please refrain from creating derivative works that fall under the following categories:
>Content that damages a third party's image, or violates their rights
They probably skirt the law by having unarchived karaokes be considered "public performances" rather than recordings. By the leap of logic that is Nip law they can probably get somehow hit by copyright from the IP owners.

>>13246990
I don't know how youtube's privacy system works but I'm pretty sure the person has to file it themselves and prove that it's them. there was a gura doxx video that got taken down because the shithead used a part of her intro video so he removed it and it's still up

>>13247012
He got fucked by "Coco"
Cover never go against doxx channels. It easier to them to strike some cliper from t to time.

>>13246710
Don't forget seggs in the thumbnails

>>13245487
Aaaand now half on my HoloSing playlist is gone.
Thank you Cover, eat a bag of dick.

>>13247108
Watch stream clipniggers.

>>13247108
>Listening to shit singers on playlist.
Lmao

>>13247108
>Supporting leeches
At least buy the originals you moron.

>>13247116
Im watching. And even had downloaded unarchived one.
But when i want listen to one specific song then i play it from clips.

>>13247176
Sure, show me where i can buy oringinal of Fubuki shin takarajima?
Or go fuck yourself.

>>13247108
>no new id

>>13247080
It was a joint effort based on the timing.

>>13245487
Shame, I lit just subscribed yesterday

>>13247136
You always opening full stream and then search for specific time when you want listen to one specific song?

>>13247228
>>13247080
Don't forget Watame baiting him into trying to doxx her as well, giving her grounds to issue a 3-pronged attack and insta-lock his channel.
Dude was straight up outplayed.

>>13247277
Not him but yes

inb4 its some clipfag pretending to be Cover to get views

>>13245487
Did it happen after Kiara tweeted about a karaoke archive they did?

>>13247204
Hololive 1st fes blue-ray.

>>13247352
Karaoke version, i only listen to those.
Alos fuck those clipers who rip paid content

>>13247425
just grab it from the mega then whats the issue

based, fuck low effort clippers. they're the worst kind of leech

>>13247425
> visit 4chan
> don't know about archives

If anything he probably got fucked over archived streams, not the unarchived ones

>>13247425
he didn't do member streams, only public

>>13247306
based sheep

>>13245487
Can we get music copyright holders to notice it and start a new permission arc with Hololive, so that not even unarchived karaoke will be allowed anymore?

>>13247015
Really? Shit, someone better tell Elrira, she's featuring a clipper who does that on her channel!

>>13247108
Just download the karaoke streams on Nyaa. Niggers from Cover wont be able to touch it

>>13245487
use Odysee you dumb fucking niggermonkey of a clipnigger if you actually want to archive these karaoke covers.

>>13245487
I reported every single clip channel that monetized Hololive content, feel good whenever the list got shortened

>>13246627
lol. Fubuki's shorts exploded and gave them more exposure than clippers will ever do.

>>13247043
There is a reason they are unarchieved karaokes. No recordings and its just live shows. I'm sure they have permissions and licenses for the archieved songs.

>>13245487
Good, the SEAmonkey does not deserve any form of revenue from his pathetic leeching.

this is why you backup channels like I did.
I even threw in some nijisanji clippers in there
you never know when you might lose it all due to corpo c*ckery

>>13245813
>simps attacking this post and defending corpos
grim

>>13246638
>which is fucking retarded to reupload their songs anyways since they are already on their own channels
The guy mostly uploads clips from unarchived karaoke streams, not literal fully-produced songs. Monetization or not, he's doing us a good service.

Probably got fucked over by clipping the singing portion of 3d lives.

>>13246638
So was he leeching from Holos or not?

>>13245813
>Aren't these people, including clippers, the ones who do the actual work of spreading their fame?
No, YouTube and its algorithm primarily are the ones that spread the fame.

the account on spotify uploading hololive karaoke also got nuked too

>>13248048
Have you ever thought about why the other guy (might/amazing eggroll) who uploads holo karaokes isn't whining about getting striked/terminated? or any other karaoke clipper for that fact? Dude is clearly taking advantage of that shit

Cover is an ungrateful bitch

>>13246493
>from
Don't you mean "to"?

>>13247688
>only 5k views per vid
It's not worth the trouble.

>>13247108
Geez even if you miss a karaoke, just watch the next one. They do it often enough.

>>13248236
Fuck off nijinigger

>>13248217
>Dude is clearly taking advantage of that shit
we now come to the moral question
>so?
>and what?
why does your happiness depend on him taking advantage matter when you're getting a consolidated clips from chuubas singing, all in one place? you are getting your clips right?
now if you're mad the money you spend on your e-whore is getting cut in half because this guy is taking her money away from her. then, I'll agree with you. anything more is just you covering your simp tendencies up in terms of moral faggotry

>>13247990
Yeah, I don’t get why people think clips aren’t important for exposure. New people are a lot more likely to watch a short clip than a long ass stream of someone they’ve never seen before. Tons of people got into Hololive via clips rather than the streams itself.

Unlike translated clips, it doesn't take any work to clip songs from karaoke streams and upload them. This leech probably made a few thousand bucks with zero effort. No one should feel bad for him.

>>13248456
oooo somebody's jealous

>ITT angry clipniggers

You love to see it.

>>13247657
No, because money talks. And they will lose money from pursuing this.
People seem to think striking videos is a function of copyright law. That is wrong. Striking is a solely Youtube-implemented policy as a compromise to retain safe harbour provisions under copyright law.
Youtube is only obligated to not have content that infringes copyright law stored on its servers. This it has satisfied - unarchived karaoke, by definition, is no longer on its servers. Youtube has no legal obligation to do anything more, nor would it want to.
The only reason permission holders are so trigger-happy is because striking costs them nothing besides an email and Youtube literally provides them bots to freely identify infringement. Going further than that requires time and labor investment. A rights holder cannot do anything beyond striking a non-existent unarchived karaoke unless they wished to proceed to a legal case. If they did so, they would almost definitely lose more money in legal costs than what they could claim even if they "won", especially since holos have SCs turned off.

>>13245763
bad kitten :)

Literally who is this guy and why should I care about him?
>HoloEN only
nevermind

>>13247780
Based

>>13248643
>unarchived karaoke, by definition, is no longer on its servers.
This isn't true at all though. They just private the videos, so they're still subject to Content ID. Highly likely all the hololive unarchived karaoke streams have Content ID claims on them.

>>13247657
Ignore the nervous simp. Many music labels and game companies do not know hololive has their content with monetization. All you need to do is link hololive chuuba videos and the money they made for that stream/video. It will work.

Its a tricky thing tho, cover is using the girls as a shield like terrorists do - "if you come close, I'll kill her". So you might think cover will hurt but all it does is cause problems to your oshi.

Its cunning what cover is doing. You have to choose if you like clippers more or the girls getting hurt because cover will only get scratches in this case

More likely than not, someone probably leaned on Cover to take action in this case. There are plenty of channels that have Gura unarchived karaoke shit, and have been uploading for ages.
Now, if more channels that host specifically unarchived Karaoke start getting striked, well...just catch it live or fucking use the torrent sites dumbasses, unless you're a sadsack seanig who only has a mobile phone.

>>13248640
I am pretty sure I will always side with clippers rather than money throwing simps who defend corporations.

>>13248643
>unarchived karaoke, by definition, is no longer on its servers
Except for all the reuploads by fans.

>>13246590
I don't get what's going on here

>>13248866
Yes, but finding and taking them down the small fries down literally costs them more in terms of the man-minutes it takes to send those email than anything they can gain from it.

>>13247657
>>13248763
This count as calling for a raid right?

>>13249005
Arent raids only inside the website which are counted? How far gone are you lad, that you're conflating discussion of YT copyright on 4ch?
Jesas

>>13249066
Not far gone enough to out myself as an ESL niggers like you.

>>13249090
>as an ESL niggers
Wot? Either it should be as an ESL nigger or as ESL niggers.
Of you're coping by calling someone as ESL, make sure your own grammar is spot on, simp

>>13249122
>buzzwords

>>13247068
No a company or representative can do it for you.

>>13249149
You should've learnt your grammar before you call others as ESL
Learn it and then I'll take you seriously

>>13249191
>still replying

>13248763
>Many music labels and game companies do not know hololive has their content with monetization
Ask me how I know this is bait.

>>13245487
and nothing of value was lost

>>13249197
The equation is simple.
Have better grammar than the one you're calling as ESL
That's basically it

>>13249243
>then I'll take you seriously
>still replying

>>13249254
Better grammar first
Seething and self-hatred later, ESL

>Please limit your creation of derivative works to a fan or hobby level. Do not use our content for business purposes (including, but not limited to, cases where a business bears the production costs, etc., even if it is under the name of an individual), or for purposes that can be deemed as for-profit.

>>13249294
>No, you!

>>13245487
It's weird the strikes are coming from Cover, as they don't own the rights for those unarchived karaoke songs either.

>>13249342
As I said, self-hatred later
Get better grammar before you call others ESL, ESL

>>13249375
No

>>13245487
Better get into making another account and guide your "audience" before you lose them.

>>13249369
That's a good point

Wasnt this the guy who bragged about his channel putting him through seanig college? He's probably laughing at his IT job now.

>>13249332
So, why are there clipniggers that have a decent amount of followers have ads in their clips?

>>13249369
>>13249398
They own the model and voice.

>>13245487
oh nyoo~