/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

General numberfag sites
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://overseas.live-ranking.com/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking
>https://piyo.chats.ninja/
>https://www.dousetu.com/daily_ranking/
>http://v-ana.com/watcher_ranking/
>https://virtual-youtuber.userlocal.jp/
>https://vtuber-post.com/ranking/
>https://vtuberranking.com/ranking
>https://vchama.xyz/
>https://www.vtuber-ct.net/en
>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCBRUIS696ooFVZ-gMpCFIoA
>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCrK21zSXmgueGII65cyCHcA

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://mipacd.github.io/chat-stats/excl-chat.html
>https://twitter.com/holo_data
>https://twitter.com/holo_analytics
>https://twitter.com/holo_analyticsV
>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC94Mhi_4KZNX7bzHaoBnRTw

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber
>https://twitter.com/2434livemoment
>https://twitter.com/2434fanart
>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCBXnBOvSLzjPUtwZBzs6PlQ
>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCQIkEQvr0pSUSJPLbiivsvA

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

so chammers for the silver today? my numberfagging brain is just hurting right now...the wasted potential...

>>13204988
Who the fuck is defending them? I'm just calling out a newfag for not knowing what he's talking about.
Nijisanji's number problems are far bigger than just not being favored by the algorithm, because most of their streamers are declining even when they're already well-known in Japan.
Appealing heavily to casuals is how they got into this situation in the first place.

How can vt stop the "YT culling" conspiracy?

>>13205087
I'd rather be popular with casuals in my own country than being viral in some backwater shit place. Like, they don't pay for shit and internet fad is short-lived anyway. People here don't know reach and growth for shit.

>>13205097
until the waiting room number stops dropping

>>13205097
get some brave hero to have sex with Susan

>>13204911
That was last year, she's perfectly fine with that spot now, pretty much every since council debuted

>>13205126
NIJICOPE

>>13205097
Is the Susan'ed frequency higher than last year?

>>13205126
slow & steady anon, you're winning morally at least

https://twitter.com/wstcg/status/1461213769225306114
Cards getting a second print, will it sell out again?

>>13205126
NIJICOPE

>>13205129
Or people just left? You know, quit the tab? You know, shut off the phone? You know, do their job?

>>13205073
It's hard to say if Haachama would have won even with proper marketing. PekoMari is really stronk and more people in Haachama's stream could've meant more people funneled into the PekoMari stream.

>>13205126
which is why Nijis dominated scs right?...wait they don't? hm looks like you are wrong anon

>>13205172
more like how fast will it sell out

Miko 20k possible?

>>13205172
Within the week

>>13205172
if they remember to pay for more shill streams, sure

>>13205142
Since she's declining, she's fine now.

>>13205126
gotta love the cope, thanks for making my day anonchama

>>13205126
>in my own country

>>13204946
Not a chance. Queen Usada will never allow peasant like Miko to have a shoot to dethrone her.

>>13205181
>>13205201

>>13205126

>>13205073
I think she could have gotten 20k more by showing the guests in her thumnail

>>13205216

>>13205126
to the cope list, right fucking now

Shion playing new pokemon game, probably another time limited perms.

>>13205285
No way it's not already on the list.
>Niji is mainstream in JP, which is more important than Hololive's international dominance
is a classic

>>13205172
better buying more than paying to scalpers

NIJICOPE LIST
>building a sub-culture
>slow and steady growth
>merch sales
>no longer showing off their achievements on their page because they have shown more humility
>percentages
>tournaments don't count
>fortune telling
>volume
>averages
>total CCV during primetime
>trailers are ads
>Google trends
>Holo EN was a desperate gambit
>Holo's forcibly acquired audience vs Niji's natural growth
>stop picking on midgets! fight someone your own size!
>pit Vshojo against HoloEN when you're losing
>pit HoloEN against HoloJP when you're losing
>pit former Holo against HoloJP when you're losing
>Holobubble is bursting
>foreign buff/global audience bad, muh local Nips good
>YouTube Japan trends
>Apex will only get more popular from now on!
>flexible creative freedom
>Holo's restrictive management will cause them to eventually graduate
>Cover uses bots
>Hal is honorary Niji
>Kson is honorary Niji
>Ui is honorary Niji
>Most vtubers are Nijisanji like and Nijisanji is part of greater vtuber community
>Nijisanji fans are more passionate about their livers and will leave dislikes to show their engagement
>Sponsorships are retarded
>Hololive's merch and sponsorship bad because companies underestimated them which means that they don't care about the cheap collab
>Koshien is not an event
>Nijisanji is solidifying their other markets while keeping their strong home market
>Pre-recorded lives are technically premiers and shouldn't count
>Cover is just lucky to have clippers and algorithm on their side
>Hololive invented unicorns
>Watchalongs are POVs
>Nijisanji isn't a corporation, it's a family
>Each Twitch viewer is equivalent to about 1.5 Youtube viewers because Selen flopped her first Twitch stream and Selen never flops
>Evil God Korone is an event game.
>All non holos are nijis
>muh subs to growth ratio
>I'd rather be popular with casuals in my own country than being viral in some backwater shit place.

>>13205302
I'm more interested in FBK. Is nightmare a new difficulty for phasmo?

>>13205317
nice

>>13205126
>casuals
Ayame, it's your turn!!

>>13205302
they are doing another pokemon tournament in nico nico douga with the remake versions or diamond and pearl, so yeah they have pokemon permissions again

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>>13205201
I hate split collabs so much but yes, she should hit 20k.

>>13205142
EN just need more people to play with other than JP and ID, that's all, since they live hours from each other (Well, aside from Calli/IRyS

>>13205126
> GIVE ME A N
> GIVE ME A I
> GIVE ME A J
> GIVE ME A C
> GIVE ME A I
> GIVE ME A O
> GIVE ME A E
> GIVE ME A P

WHAT DOES IT SPELL?

Will she break 100 viewers?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Man9XiJkCA

>>13205426
Nijcioep?

>>13205426
NIJCIOEP?

>>13205440
Who?

>>13205426
Well, that's a big fail.

>>13205381
Pokémon perms wasted on Nijisanji…

>>13205440
>100
Get out, midget.

>>13205440
don't shill your indie here anon

Newfag spotted

>>13205440
kek

>>13205480
>>13205492
>Trashing PRISM
Apparently you weren't around for the Luto superchat moggings. Those were fantastic days, lol.

>>13205302
i hope kronii plays it, shes a huge autist about it

>>13205325
Is Nijicope already longer than Eilene's crimes?

>>13205479
I don't know if they have paid for permissions or they have the same agreement with nico nico

HoloEN where?

>>13205514
Kronii has said multiple times that she is good at Smash Bros. Why the fuck hasn't she played it yet? Seems like it would be some pretty good numbers if she actually is good at the game.

>>13205511
come back when they do it again, don't expect a hugbox

>>13205476
way to out yourself, newfag

>>13205543
Maybe she's like Subaru who's "the best in her hometown" but gets beat up by her viewers.

>>13205539
In the shitter kek

>>13205543
She also like tetris but hasn't played it yet

>>13205543
shes going to play smash with gura, from her last karaoke

>>13205129
It takes some time for people to migrate from the waiting room to the stream

The Pekora/Marine stream is bleeding viewership. Wrap it up already so those viewers can be funneled. My lord its so frustrating!!!

>>13205519
well it is not a nico nico only thing, shion is playing on youtube

Why is there a "popularity" talk in here for some reasons? It is not something that can be calculated easily, otherwise jun channel is more popular than the entirety of hololive?

>>13205539
man, holojp is just a different beast these days.
theyre not like nijijp or holoen where they get a fuckton of tourists one day who disappear the next, their audience actually stays.

We fuck Aqua all night and you little penis chink can only watch
Do you unserstand?

They made Mumei pretty smug in the DST mod.

>>13205476
Newfag LMAO, nijikeks really are a joke huh?

>>13205613
Mioshuba is starting soon, PekoMari will still be going for a while

>>13205519
Probably different perms since holo has time limit.

>>13205539
>All big events and Pekora

>>13205629
the agreement is you give us content for our platform we give you temporal permissions for your YT channel

>>13205645
cute, gonna play it later

Anyone else nostalgic for when Niji put up a fight? Them getting crushed so reliably means the threads are open for schizos to samefag all day.

>>13205519
No they have blanket year round permissions, whereas Hololive only gets their permissions through NND

>>13205543
Kronii will have a Smash Bros collab with Gura but the date is still unspecified.

>>13205172
When sales starts dropping they still have HoloEN to get another boost

I hope both Nijisanji and Hololive get Elden perms.

>>13205613
Why? Its huge for watch hours.

>>13205685
huh does nintendo own niconico or something?

>>13205539
>all big event and peko/mari meme streams

>>13203847
micomet basically had sex on stream, sadly still can't beat pekomari tho

>>13205638
How likely that Pekora next outfit reveal breaks Gura record? Everything seems to be settling in place for it to happen.

>>13205765
she'd need a huge hype campaign, with all HoloFantasy helping it out

>>13205765
If it ever happens, i hope it mogs Niji Koshien too lmao, its only a few thousands away

>>13205765
If she break 200k
How can nijiniggers survive?

>>13205762
because Marines sheer existence is sex

>>13205806
They will go back to EN vs JP post, mark my word

Pegora, please give the princess some of your power.

>>13205753
No, Niconico has a sponsorship deal worked out with TPC, and as part of that deal they can give permissions to anyone they want to stream the games. Then Cover strikes a deal with Niconico to be part of that promotional effort, and as a result they get pokemon perms, but that only lasts for as long as that sponsorship deal lasts

>>13205765
It's highly unlikely imo.

>>13205753
to get pokemon permissions you need to ask : Nintendo, Gamefreak and The Pokemon Company. Yeah, is shit but it seems nico nico ceo has some kind of agreement with them

>>13205765
Maybe Gura 3D will happen first, even Peko surpasses Gura's oufit, it still loses to 3D reveal.

>>13205797
Why does she need that? Isnt just an announcement like the EN outfit reveal, then set up a room 24h beforehand enough?

>>13205765
i think she can get around 150k but gura's is just too high. she needs more tourists

>>13205716
Nijisanji competes on cycles since their viewership base is a lot more casual. Hololive has a much more dedicated and hardcore fanbase who will tune in everyday. Nijisanji fans are tourists who turn up for big events only.

>>13205765
Not likely, Gura has a meh CCV nowadays but her 3m subs come in handy when there's a big event.
Pekora lacks that tourist power.

>>13205765
Impossible. Gura has a ridiculously high ceiling. Also lots of EN watchers think Gura is the most well known chuuba because of subs and never realize that JP chuubas can absolutely shit on her numbers

>>13205837
How about Pekora's new outfit with special guest Gurasaurus?!

>>13205897
Or Gura's 3D with Peko guest

>>13205440
Her voice would be perfect for loli design

>>13205893
>JP chuubas can absolutely shit on her numbers
Then why impossible? She has been having all this high CCV now, why when it comes to an outfit reveal suddenly people are skeptical?

>>13205765
Unlikely

Gura has the highest ceiling in all of Hololive its just that her fanbase is more spread out and more casual in general so they aren't necessarily going to tune into every stream. Gura's 3D debut is going to mog every other Hololive 3D debut for example. I'm very confident of this happening.

>>13205875
You know, if Hololive had Nijisanji’s merch game they would be crazy dominant. This year was mostly Hololive building their relations with companies.

>>13205897
>Gurasaurus
Hey gura! 56!

>>13205897
Just no. Pekora has incredibly high floor but in my opinion her ceiling is not as high as gura or marine.

Gura + Pekora has a much higher ceiling than Pekora + Gura

minecraft without peko

Warning!
PekoMarine under 60k soon!

>>13205957
Honestly I thought Miko and Suisei would put up more of a fight

>>13205918
best youll get is aquashion guests, unless pekora finds a way to add gura to her outfit reveal somehow in return

>>13205893
Lol, Gura is bleeding subs to Pekora as well dumbass. GURA WILL NEVER BE TOP AT ANYTHING!

>>13205980

delusional

>>13205977
Does it matter though? She is still getting watch hours.

>>13205977
Yeah MioShuba is starting

>>13205957
I know Pekora is holding a lot of viewers, but not even getting to 20k is kinda bad...

>>13205986
HoloEN will never get 3D, Covid-19 is already rising in some countries again.

So.. For this month only 3D can save nijis huh

>>13206023
Yeah, Subaru broke 20k and had a bit on top.

>>13205980
Suisei isn't known for streaming while Miko is below Marine without buff. Against literally two of pinnacle of the food chain, they never stood a chance.

>quick, HoloJp vs EN is not working, lets pit Jp agaisnt JP!

>>13205845
I swear to god someone at the TPC has a grudge against hololive, they have no issues granting perms to nijisanji and NND, but not cover despite several of their talents really hankering for it.

Link to the jap vtuber news comment section where they only talk about numbers?

>>13205939
as much as people shit on en numbers here, en has a huge audience that just cant be asked to watch daily streams. its just a matter of activating them with a big event that catches attention like myth's very first outfits week
jp (holojp at least) has a smaller but definitely more dedicated audience, they have tourists too but not as big as en's

>>13205994
anon, please

>>13205939
High daily CCV isn't the same as having a high oote trial ceiling. Some Anons here love to shit on subs, but subs matter when they aren't proven to be dead (see : Ai). The fact that Gura gets amazing song view growth is indicative of the fact that her subs are NOT in fact dead, they're just as fucking lazy as she is and don't watch streams on a regular basis. This was proven when her costume broke all records for peak CCV up to that point, and then Reflect/King smashed records on fastest to 10m.
Imo, Pekora can easily hit 100-150k on a new costume of done right, but to get 200k would be...not impossible, but. Unlikely imo.

>>13206103
It doesn't exist bro.

Barring Coco graduation, what was the highest ceiling for holoJP of the recent time? Can use that to guess if Peko can break Gura record or not.

>>13206072
Her most recent Tetris stream gets 20k though

>>13206112
>0 subs last day
is already happening

>>13205977
[Bad news]
PekoMarine is under 60k now

The biggest problem of EN 3D is that they don't have appropriate working visa. Vtuber is consider as freelance. Only Mori and IRyS have license to stay in JP.

>>13206136
anon, please, just stop

>>13206123
Pretty sure it's Noel's costume reveal for within the past month, and if you go a bit further back, Marine's live.

>>13206124
Tetris > Minecraft for Suisei

>>13206136
Kek, that pic literally proves my point. Such a dumbass.

I can see alot of holomembers try this mod for collab.

>>13206124
Minecraft is not Suisei's buff game. Tetris is.

>>13206179
Yeah but today she have the micomet buff

>>13206145
End the fucking stream already. People are checking out and its bleeding viewership. Let the funnel happen.

>>13206087
Personally I think Nijisanji might have paid for them. One of their top talents at the time (panda) quit over Nintendo game perms in the past.

>>13206118
Something like "bigger fanbase, smaller audience" I guess?

>>13206210
Anon two cute girls are having fun playing game.

So, did anything but hololive happen today? Everything has been so one sided since Halloween.

>>13206207
miComet doesn't have legacy buff like PekoMiko

>>13206087
its not about having a grudge against them is just money, if you want permissions you have to pay

>>13206210
They're just playing the videogame they'll end when they want to
>>13206240
Kuzuha got twenty something thousand with an event

>>13206087
It's the Japanese company's autism. Konami and Fromsoft are also the same.

>>13205939
Because of that high ceiling. Pekora has high floor but her ceiling is nothing to Gura who has a lower floor but insane ceiling. To beat Gura, Pekora needs EN numbers. Unfortunately, EN watchers know Gura maybe holoEN but not JP. Gura is well known in EN and JP. When a big event comes, Gura can count on more tourists than Pekora even if nousagis are more reliable daily watchers than chumbuds

I love how people keep bitching about Pekora not ending her stream

>>13205765
She needs a big hype campaign similar to her joke outfit but in bigger scale. Plus points if she brings guest to a goddamn outfit reveal.

>>13206258
>>13206212
Anon if showing up with a briefcase full of money is enough to get cover pokemon permissions they would already have it, Cover literally has so much money right now they have no idea how to invest it properly. If all TPC demands is money it wouldn't be an issue to this day.

>>13206227
Basically. EN Stream watchers are more split across YT + Twitch whereas video viewing (not livestreams) is all YT. It means it's easier to get subs to watch short content than hours of VODs, whereas Japan is far more dedicated when it comes to stream watching on YouTube.

>>13206299
i think her best shot is having her outfit at the tail end of EN new outifits, which are likely in december winter break

>>13206299
Also it needs to be 3 goddamn outfits plus her original model update(she has a bunny girl no coat option)

>>13206267
People have been talking about how Pekora is super popular in and out of Japan all the time, but when it comes to actual EN numbers of fans she is still lacking? This is not exactly like Kuzuha who has been debunked to have very low EOP fans, Pekora I think is actually popular worldwide, unless that is also a misperception.

>>13206302
Imagine if the taiwan yab is actually the reason Cover couldn't get it.

>>13206341
add on the fact that people who watch Japanese streams likely all live in one timezone whereas people who watch English streamers can be all over the world

>>13206302
I don’t think Cover cares enough about those perms in particular to pay a premium for them. Nijisanji wanted one of their top talents to come back so they hit the bullet.

I have a question, how fast do Gura clips appear after Gura finishes the stream? Especially karaoke.

>>13206360
pekora is popular worldwide but as much as gura is popular worldwide

>>13206371
Most likely they still hold a grudge from when before the holocaust happened because they disrespected my rights and waht not, you know, japanese autism. You see a similar thing happen in the modding sphere for any big game too.

>>13206391
but not as much*

>>13206389
Karaoke is fast. Within an hour or two iirc.
Streams, depends on length. If it's a longer stream, right as it ends as the clippers will have had time to work on editing and whatnot. Otherwise, also within an hour or two. Speed is important.

>>13206360
its like korone, people know her name, her character design, maybe watched a few clips but since she speaks japanese thats the farthest people know about her. eops wont go out of their way just because she has a new outfit or something

>>13206360
Pekora can get 30k+ on judgment which is an EOP filter game

>>13206118
Enschizo cope

>>13206387
They cared enough to pay for sony's ridiculous terms for their games, if they could pay for pokemon permissions they absolutely would.

>>13206389
karaoke ones are often up the moment the stream ends if not within the hour. i remember a karaoke clipper was getting shit on a while back due to uploading the songs while the stream was still ongoing.
not sure about highlight clips since i don't watch them

>>13206441
? That's the first time I've been accused of being the enschizo. Anything in particular that you object to?

>>13206118
Gura is more popular than Pekora despite what the CCV obsessed fags will have you believe. As a true numberfag I take in all the numbers and CCV is tje only number Pekora beats Gura in. Gura crushes her in every other metric.

Ok, new question for brain storming for number guessing: Isnt there a recent nijisanji event, on their main channel or whatever, that breaks 200k? Im not knowledgeable to know what kind of stream and pull it has, but can an outfit reveal has the hype/pull of that stream? Couple with how hololive is more popular than nijisanji abroad might have more info/data to guess for Peko.

>>13206485
he's retarded, pay him no mind.

>>13206480
I thought it was common courtesy to not upload clips of a stream when said stream is still live.
>>13206513
I'd agree with you but it wouldn't hurt to not make it seem like you're trying to start JP vs EN.

>>13206513
This retard again

>>13206513
Anon, I never said Pekora was more popular overall than Gura though. I agree that Gura is more popular (worldwide) than Pekora, even if she gets absolutely mogged on CCV daily (for a variety of factors).

>>13206210
>End the fucking stream already
NEVER! Gotta cash in the watched hours and crush Miko

[Warning]
PekoMarine will be under 55k soon

>>13206532
It is common courtesy, and also because youtube algo will go nuts if you do it too often and strike the stream as a copycat

It is pretty horrifying if you need to pay to stream a game because it should be the opposite way from a business perspective. Companies pay to put their product during world cup etc.

Small companies pay me to put their new products on my retail chain stores.

>>13206513
Pekora has more SCs, watchtime and VOD views though.
Gura wins in subs and memberships.

Save the JP vs EN until the scheduled time please. (In about 9 hours)

>>13206558
why the warning? peko's being really smart farming watchhours, any chance she can catch up to amouranth? the gaps big so maybe not but i hope she gets #2 at least

>>13206558
So it's just the rare buff of PekoMarine collab pulls high numbers
People won't stay long

>>13206571
It should be but Japanese autism.
This is what the lack of someone like total biscuit does to a society

>>13206581
more like after the final tally.

>>13206430
>>13206480
So the fast growth of clips is one of indication of popularity ?
Clippers want more benefits, ofc they will choose the BIGs.

>>13206603
Not unless she streams 24 hours and rebroadcasts old streams no. The ur-ethot is way too good at farming watched hours.

>>13206302
they are a company anon, maybe is more profitable for them to get permissions with some shill streams whenever a new game release than paying a shit ton of money every year

>>13206558
END THE STREAM!!

>>13206513
>Gura wins
She does in some categories, especially in laziness with 145 None stream days this year.

>>13206456
what are you even talking about?

>>13206558
For each 30 min at 55k Miko and Kuzuha has to stream a full hour to catch up in hours watched

Why does she make people on every side of the aisle so mad?

>>13206649
I'm willing to forgive about 2 weeks of those though, since those were taken for family reasons (and very likely the death). Her penchant for taking 2 day breaks after every schedule though, gah. It annoys me, because she never even indicates it anywhere and just goes ghost on twitter.

>>13206679
>Kuzuha has to stream a full hour to catch up in hours watched
He's ahead of pekor

>>13206662
Sony's permissions for games are both Time limited and only apply to a single vtuber, or at least the terms they offer to cover are. Miko talked about this to explain why she couldn't continue playing the uncharted series. On top of which they also charge a hefty premium for this which is why Miko couldn't just extend the perms for another season.

>>13206620
I was trying to base it around when I think the ENschizo shows up, but true other people can fill in

>>13206709
True, because he streams long hours to ensure his supremacy. They didn’t call him the (former) king for no reason

How tf Peko lost 25k viewers

>>13206730
Micomet
Botan
Mioshuba
Time
Take your pick

>>13206700
> Streams over other concerts and anniversaries
> Funnels over people's 3d and birthdays and steal their gold
> Puts every holo in minecraft limbo every time she builds a new attraction
Truly the sigma female of holo

>>13206730
>30k

>>13206576
kek if you're counting simple total vod views that's very very correlated to watchtime itself

>>13206711
I know miko said she couldn't continue cause time limited permissions but I don't remember she saying anything about paying for it, specially since she didn't monetize her streams

>>13206730
its been 2 hours since they started streaming. It's hard to retain those numbers as they enter the EU timeslot.

In other news, MiComet fell under 28 (combined) views
>>13206791
Not really, music videos count towards VOD views while doing jack shit for watchtime. One person watching your stream for an hour is worth many times more than one person watching your 3 minute long song.

>>13206513
Ccv :: pekora
SC :: pekora
Sponsors :: pekora
Watch time ::pekora
Vod views total :: pekora
Subs :: gura
Vod ave. Views :: gura
Membership :: N/A

>>13206730
people need to work tomorrow anon, specially if they want to but a ticket for gen 3 live

>>13206701
I can concede family issues, but removing those 2 weeks and she's still at 131 days, even if we add some good old vacation(I know she's a burger but let's assume she would want to be a first world worker and get 25 days) that would have her end up at lets say 106 days of not streaming on her channel. Extreme fucking laziness.

>>13206814
Do you get paid by watchtime?

>>13206823
>Sponsors : Gura
>Membership : Gura

>>13206823
Watch time is still a guess or N/A, it is on their YT analytics, we dont have that. It's most likely is Peko but no actual data to prove.

>>13206849
Topping the watchtime chart is free advertisement

>>13206814
>he counts songs
ok, even more retarded than I thought

>>13206860
So they get paid in exposure?

>>13206859
I mean... watch time is Pekora... It's obvious

>>13206828
Agreed, she lazy. Love me shark, but her absolute desire for break days means she'll never push on watchtime metrics, and her lack of drive to optimize numbers means I must suffer (POST YOUR SCHEUDLES TO YT AGAIN AHHHHHHHH)

>>13206860
now this is coep

>>13206823

will they continue this mc mod in Marine's channel another day?

>>13206859
it's obviously pekora since she streams nearly twice as often as gura and has higher average CCV

>>13206858
That tacobell isnt as big as curry

>>13206930
fake, pekora has at least 20k

>>13206900
If there is data, it is obvious, I said it is most likely her, but I dont 100% sure, the only way to know 100% obvious is to have YT analytics access. Otherwise it is a "most likely".

>>13206930
Old data, and also incomplete, since this is a minimum floor by active in chat in some way.

>>13206823
Mori, Suisei : Why not just collab?
Just dominate the different market.

>>13206944
>Source : my ass

>>13206930
>Jan-april
Provide a recent one

>>13206949
wasn't Pekora in the top watched females streamers list? with Gura not even making place 5?
(admitedly the nummber they had for Pekora was lower than this threads estimate but still)

>>13206934
Watch time is different than the Hours watched those websites report. Even downloading a 3h VOD adds 3h to watchtime, doesnt need to rely on CCV.

>>13206986
Mention Gura after she streams more .

>>13206986
Yes. The metric 'watch time's specifically is for livestreaming only. VOD watchtime doesn't count, and since sharkie is lazy, she'll never chart again.

>>13206949
Are you talking about watch hours or watch time(what ever you mean by that metric)?

>>13206930
membership data for holos is lacking to say the least
its one of the few numberfaging tools Nijis have superiority in with their twitter bot

>>13207031
Watch time, check the anon
>>13206823

>>13206849
>Do you get paid by watchtime?
Yes, youtube has been optimizing for watchtime for years now. Why do you think every fucking video is 10+ minutes now?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJN171kJ2KY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJN171kJ2KY

Pokemon streams

>>13207056
>>13206823

yes, and which metric does that define?
since watch hours is the metric for avg ccv * stream length. And there is no discussion that Pekora is ahead in watch hours.

>>13206823
Membership is Gura, everything else is correct.

>>13207019
>Mention Gura after she streams more .
??? explain to my drunk ass what you mean
>>13207022
thanks for the info

>>13207084
>この放送は 株式会社ドワンゴ の実施するニコニコ生放送の出張版放送として配信しております。
what does this mean?

>>13207129
See >>13205833

>>13207129
"This is a live broadcast by Dwango Inc. on Nico Nico Live." -DeepL

>>13207129
Mirror stream maybe?
I've never been a stream watcher before Hololive so I don't know why is this actually not a normal practice.

Can't you stream on Twitch+YT+NNC at the same time?

K-KING..... ;-(

>>13207093
Anon, you dont know that Watch time is a proper YT metrics? Do you watch that Spiff Brit video where he mentioned the term about one of his most profitable video? It is accumulated, even from downloading the VOD, which is not reliant on CCV. The Hours watched is from Live streaming, but the term Watch time has always been another YT metric.

Gura has dropped in membership for quite some time now, she only has around 7k-8k currently.

>>13207129
Only the Holos who are part of the sponsorship get to play it as well.

>>13207170
yes we can throw it on autotranslator too, but what does it mean since it is actually on youtube?

>>13207190
pekomarine love

>>13207198
Source?

>>13207212
>pekomarine love
the only love Pekora has is for big numbers and thus cash
literally gay for pay
based

>>13207217
my ass

>>13207212
I like them more than PekoMiko

>>13207235
Marine's pov

I went to check and Hajime’s dislikes number on his 3D debut tomorrow is only 20 now. It was 400+ a day ago. Is it YouTube trying to protect creators from hate raids or something?

>>13207235
Unironically a good streamer mindset

>>13207265
god thats hot
groomer pirate on the prowl

>>13207074
It's not just that, they've recently been pushing another metric, session time, which is how long you spend in a given sitting going through videos. It's why clips are the length they are now, Inman attempt to drive you to go through mulitples of them in a given sitting. It likely got pushed up in importance when they started to push YT shorts.

>>13207268
>dislikes
they litteraly are planing to hide those entirely

[Bad new]
PekoMarine is under 50k now

>>13206823
Hotel :: Trivago

>>13206513
Because popularity doesn't necessarily bring in enough people willing to shell out for the product. See how Superman is the most popular superhero ever but other heroes from the MCU or even still in DC, can make more money in the movies.

>>13207358
It's midnight on a weekday. MiComet combined are under 24k now. People are just going to bed.

>>13207246
Can't see the appeal of PekoMiko or PekoMoon as pairing desu. PekoMiko feels more like that sibling that always having argument every five seconds while PekoMoon are like two autistic people trying to have a conversation.

>>13207387
>midnight
Mio still holds 16k

>>13207411
How, in the name of Queen Usada, my autocorrect went from "desu" to "desu"?

>>13207459
>Being this new

>>13207459

>he doesn't know

>>13207459
next you gona wonder what senpaitachi is

>>13207411
PekoMari is a very common dynamic in anime so I don't know why a lot of people sleep on it. Literally
>Loud pervert who will absolutely do outrageous things if left unchecked
>The quiet normal one who is there to stop them from doing outrageous things

Shion vs Lize, who'll win? Lize getting 13k atm while Shion is at 8k, granted polka is also streaming the same game.

[Warning]
PekoMarine will be under 45k soon

>>13207499
>Pokemon is a worse debuff than a several years old animal crossing game
sucks for Shion. hope she pulls trought

>>13205172
When will AZKi be included in Hololive "official"? Next year?

>>13207492
It's even more basic than that. Boke & Tsukkomi.

I am very concerned for Marine right now. She been talking nonstop with Pekora for hours now, they cannot stop talking

>>13207492
based pervert rabbit bullying the quiet and bashful pirate

>>13207492
Which is just a variation of
"Straight man and Wise Guy/funny Guy"(or Manzai though not quite a perfect match), which is even more hilarious a because Pekora is normally the funny man.

Peko-botan-towa-marine collab tomorrow.

>pekotowabota + marine collab for tomorrow
hopefully its not fps

PekoMariTowaBota tomorrow.

from nip numberfags:

Current number of slots over 10,000
ホロ:214
にじ:81

にじホロ Number and percentage of ace slots
Kuzuha:
Own channel 18:22%
Official, Chronowa included 21:25%
Kuzuha unframed and convex included 23:28%

Pekora:
Own channel 18:8%

November Niji Holo results
Holo 14 wins (Peco 6, Marine 3, Miko 2, Subaru, Rushiya, Ramy)
Niji 4 wins (Chronowa, Lewis, Official, Fumi)

>it's over
see you next year, pekomarin

>>13207545
It's not about the game, who's gonna win the numbers between them on a new pokemon game with the same new release buff. Second most popular female liver of nijisanji or Shion the 4th most popular of Holo gen 2.

>>13207598
Nijibros...what do.

>>13207589
>>13207591
>>13207596
Hope it's one POV. I want Hajime and Sony vtubers murdered in cold blood.

>>13207626
Pekora is learning from ayame's scarcity buff and made her ship interaction scarce for free buffs.

>>13207589
>>13207591
>>13207596
this thread is litteraly my source of vtuber news
also 90% chance for it being a fps since 3/4 members like dem shooters
sorry that one anon

>>13207582
>>13207576
I think this single screenshot describe their dynamic quite well

>>13207411
PekoMiko has the childhood friend romance appeal, not to mention last year there were various moments and clips you can find where the other Holos ship them, like Marine in particular ive seen push for the ship the most.

For Moona though they definitely are more on just weird friendship/companionship, there really shouldn't be any reason to ship them together since they come together primarily just to build stuff in Minecraft.

>>13207632
No look at the numbers now that pekomarine is over its currently inclining.

>>13207598
Do they have their own list or are they stealing from us?

>>13207663
Probably a 4-man payday stream perhaps, or a B4B collab.

>>13207663
I want them to play visceral cleanup atleast ;_;

>>13207499
>Oh no no no no no
Shion 12k now

>>13207632
>new release buff.
its a remake. and a shit one from what i saw online.
but hey have fun with your endeavor

>>13207663
Is the 10% that silly pvp game NePoLaBo play alot? I wouldn't mind that.

>>13207678
seems like they have their own
here's their daily:

[11/18 Niji Holo Joint Ranking]
1. Pekora Usada (Minecraft) 82,551
2. Akai Haato (Birthday LIVE) 55,543
3. Gawr Gura (song frame) 35,368
4. Kuzuha (ahamo promo) 26,055
5. Ozora Subaru (song frame) 24,905
6. Kuzuha (Supra 2) 21,674 * Provisional value (confirmed after confirming
Niji Mado )
7. Sakura Miko (Minecraft) 19,531
8. Ogami Mio (midnight broadcast) 17,848
9. Hoshigai Suisei ( Midnight Broadcast) Minecraft) 15,338
10. Fuwa Minato (Supra 2) 14,235 * Temporary value (confirmed after confirming

Niji Mado) (within 10th place other than Niji Holo)
None

[Number of frames over 10,000]
Holo 12 frames (Pekora, Haato, Gura, Subaru, Miko, Mio, Suisei, Okayu, Noel, Kanata, Zion, Kiara)
Niji 4 frames (Kuzuha, Kuzuha, Fuwa,
Kano )
merise 1 frame (Shibuya Haru)
Nori Pro 1 frame (Inuyama Tamaki)

>>13207696
Lize is inclining aswell anon.

>>13207707
Game is a downgrade from platinum.

they're playing mario party on Marine channel.

>>13207679
the 3 of them have a surprisingly big selection of fps to choose from. from shit like pubg to L4D2. lets pray its a good one
>>13207689
that would be pretty kino anon but there is almost no chance for it

>>13207660
Why are you talking about Hajime?

Give pekora pokemon permission and she will do some gimmick challenge that would get big numbers.

>>13207671
I think of Pekomoon as partner in crime. They are the heart and soul of UsaKen after all.

>>13207716
gangbeast? fuck that would be fun
>>13207729
sucks to hear.sucks even more that it will still sell better than sliced bread

>>13207598
>Kuzuha unframed and convex included 23:28%
This surely mean
>Collab with Kuzuha + Kuzuha showing up in totsu

>>13207783
and have those junfags shit up everything with rumors again? i doubt it

>>13207720
Link me

Miko and Suzy (slightly) inclining!

>>13207827
http://virtualyoutuber-matome.blog.jp/archives/12600773.html#more

>>13207782
>partner in crime
If you consider the dynamic of a conniving evil genius with their lackey who seems dumb and just follow orders, as "partners", then sure I guess.

>>13207780
His 3D debut is tomorrow

>>13207720
>confirmed after confirming

kek polka should have pushed her pokeremake stream to morning instead

>>13207854
I find that funny as well, usually Moona just follow Pekora like a nice puppy, but the moment Pekora tell her to do something she will fucking speedrun it. Or that time Pekora suddenly want to build a hotel, Moona just build a hotel from scratch in 1 stream, it even have sunset view
Hell I still remember that time Kanata(?) said she need sand so Moona tell her to stay there and come back with a full inventory of sand

>>13207912

She probably can't since they are playing because of the NicoNico tournament. Probably she and Shion have to stream at a similar time

>>13207598
>ホロ:214
>にじ:81
If we divide Holo's numbers by 3 it becomes pretty close but with a slight Niji lead.
>>13207499
Liz is at 17k and Shion ius at 14k~
Polka is at 5k~

>>13207851
TOP FUCKING KEK
>Nip numberfags are as brutal as the lads here

Gura KING is only 1K less liked than Ochame Kinou.

>>13207923
i want another usaken arc maybe start recruiting from council after shion

>>13207966
when is that tournament?

Lize is the number 1 niji female isn't she?I want her to incline more so holo can have atleast a female competitor.

>>13206849
Unironically yes, if you fill a video or vod with midroll ad slots, YouTube doesn't cram every one of them into your viewers' face, it will serve ads every X minutes. I think around 20-40 but I could be wrong. For long videos you get paid every time those ads serve. So the longer someone watches you, the more ad rev from that viewer. The preroll is a bit more complex but it won't serve on every video view either, YT doesn't want to drive viewers off their platform with ads so what a viewer might tolerate is somewhat accounted for. If someone hasn't seen ads in a while, for example they move from a pc with adblock to a phone without, YT will jam ads down their throat at first then move to a measured pace.The payout for YouTube Premium is completely based on watch time also.
Live viewership doesn't have midrolls but almost every vtuber has a vod viewership that eclipses their live numbers.

>>13207999
>Lize
wasn't it Mito? althought she sadly sliped
Ange is pretty good as well
Lulu was good (often around 10k from what i remember) but alas...

>>13207996

They didn't announce a proper date yet

https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1461212573852917761/photo/1

>>13208037
Premium apparently is pretty significant income for longer videos. Spiffing Brit is one of many who have commented on it. And vtubers have absolutely crazy watch time compared to other Youtubers

>>13207855
>>13207780
HehehehHAHAHAHA
Tomorrow is going to be grand. I'm more interested in the losers than the winners.

>>13207988
What do they mean? Do they still count pekora's stream for next day too or did they mean the other pekocollab with botowa?

>>13207993
Pekora DO have a plan for Usaken, a big one actually. Basically UsaKen vs 50 Wither because Pekora need 50 Beacon for the Pesuke which would likely initiate an entire arc by itself. Can you imagine a building with 50 beacon surrounding it?
But of course she need 150 head first to make it happen. I don't know about you guys but all UsaKen vs 50 Wither sound like one hell of a stream to me

>>13207988
Nips are pretty funny sometimes.

>digging blocks for 3 hours
>82k ccv peak
How?

>>13208066
post like this is why i finaly got it. i am going to make my oshi rich and no stupid adds will stop me

>>13208108
The stream extended past midnight so it's considered part of the next day for them

>>13208122
Skyblock novelty x Pekomari. Powerful combo, off of the funnel from Haachama live.

>>13208111
Yeah I knew there would be a clip, here ya go

>>13207720
Hololive 12
Nijisanji 6

It was a moral victory.

Interesting news in the vtubing world, Kamitsubaki is opening auditions
>>13208091

>>13208111
Mori will get her pantsu soaked the moment she notices Pesuke

>>13208153
Forgot link
https://youtu.be/LLMSB10btPw

>>13208066
Yes, Hal also showed premium as a decent income source for him. I think it was something like 10%? Probably remembering the number wrong but it was enough to pie chart.

>>13208155
Sony Music.... you keep getting hit again and again..

>>13208242
Tomorrow is gonna be fun, Hajime 3D and Sony vtubers debut at the same time.

>>13208275
That reminds me I should make a sony vtubers thread in the catalogue soonish

>>13208175
Anon, literally anyone would notice a building with 50 laser beams shoot up on to the sky. It might even start a Pesuke arc where Pekora held a tournament with a big prize to whoever can clear it the fastest
I can already see it being hyped like Sport Festival if it happen

>Nips actually gets bored when pekkers take numberfagging seriously.

Kek

>>13208184
>50 Withers
neh Usaken cant handle all that, they are going to have to hire some freelancers

>>13208341
They can use other mobs no? Pekkers clear like 3 or 5 wither with iron golem.

>>13208335
kek, what did they say

>>13208155
dam, so this is what it's about
saw some artists post art tagging sinsekai few months back, but the account got deleted now so I forgot about it

In other news:
https://youtube.com/channel/UC4Jyg9gFStHO8r5n4ya7XCQ

>>13208341
Iron Golems. She did try creating an iron golem army against 5 Wither before and the experiment were a success.
Also I don't think they will be fighting all 50 of them at once, maybe 5 at a time?

>>13208383
Explain, what am I supposed to be looking at?

>>13208372
iron golems are too dumb, theyll get rekt

>>13208383
I'm not sure what to make of this. I know it's a streamer academy but I have yet to see any reason on why. Does Anycolor charge tuition?

>>13208155
>20 years and younger
Ojii-san…

>>13208378

>>13208417
Most likely Pekora will ask other kensetsu to join if they want. Hololive Kensetsus vs 50 Wither raid (10 at a time)
No one have ever done it before

>>13208411
They’re below NijiID in views and vod.

>>13205674
u forgot Marine

>>13208482
Heh. They know who the winner is when Pekora wants that gold (and you KNOW she's keep track, she had fucking vnuma as one of her most visited sites after all)

>>13208520
Lol does she even need that anymore, at this point everyone know she would be getting good number every stream without checking

Coco, Gura and Pekora killed numberfagging kek

>>13208482
Link me up anon

>>13208551
You don't stay at the top without doing your reps.

>>13208593
http://virtualyoutuber-matome.blog.jp/lite/archives/12600773/comments/265114/

>>13205220
> 22190 vs 22528

Anon... Your numbers reps...

This December gonna be packed
>Christmas month
>Preparation for New Year
>Pekora and Myth outfit looming in the horizon
>All the other big Christmas collabs

>>13208486
They’re not even vtubers.

>>13208745
Face it, hololive is riding a buff month due to the sportfes and December will be a decline month.

https://poal.me/7w3plo

>>13208582
These three are also hard to deal with from management's perspective. No wonder they hire five girls who don't like numbers for HoloCouncil. It hasn't been half a year, and all of them will be doing conventions and other type of shillings already.

>>13208803
HoloMyth's new outfit

>>13208803
Gypsies and their fortune telling.

>>13208859
Same day relay. One gold if it isn't on a Friday.

>>13208837
That reminds me, apparently Hololive is doing something with the Consulate General of Japan in New York or something?

>>13208803
No way Myth outfit gonna make anything decline lol, that and Pekora long awaited outfit
If Pekora outfit is a flop then it’s fine there’s still Myth, if it isn’t then good

>>13208878
Who said that it's a relay ?

>>13208745
what about rokusei?

Pekora new costume is easy 100k+

>>13208889
Don’t know what they gonna do yet, only an announcement

>>13208650
This thread is pretty funny

>>13208803
Cope. Sportfes buff only lasted for a week and it mostly only benefits Miko.

> Enter /#/ thread
> "S-Subs don't matter!"
> "V-Vods don't matter!"
> "S-Songs don't matter!"
> "C-CCV don't matter!"
> "O-overseas fans don't matter!"

If they don't matter then why are the big two include all of them in the pitch deck?

AnyColor Pitch Deck:
https://speakerdeck.com/anycolor/anycolor-introduction

Cover Pitch Deck:
https://speakerdeck.com/covercorp/cover-corp-introduction

>>13208905
6 streams don't make a good month.

If Kuzuha had 30 streams of 50k CCV and won every gold in a month but if the next best was getting 3k no one would be saying it was a good month for Nijisanji.

>>13208932
>Lulu
>Bora
Need 3 more

>>13208937
I have no idea what to make of it, is it big?

>>13208932
I only list events that I’m certain will happen. There should be more special streams than that. It’s Christmas month after all

>>13208155
Why hasn't INNK opened more auditions for VSingers?

>>13208803
>riding a buff month
>buff month
>month
I as well wish to be this powerful and with a single day of entertainment in the first few days of the month to buff the whole company to 80k peak CCV territory

>>13208954
Those numbers look nice to investors who may not know everything about the vtubing industry like us schizo NEETS on 4chan do.

>>13208969
>>13208937
NYC con with council

>>13208918
That's how they did it before

>>13208999
*Points to Suisei

>>13208969
doesnt seem like its that big, just a nice thing to have some support from the government

>>13209015
COPE

>>13208999
Because Cover is not dumb. Given how much INNK bugled both Suisei and AZKi there is nothing Cover wants more than allow INNK to quietly go into the darkness without losing face

>>13208969
They probably gonna pick a few Holo to represent Japan + some EN maybe because it’s in New York
Honestly it’s hard to predict what they would do for a Consulate General

>>13209015
Crossborders that reside in this thread don’t know that much as well, just like investors.

>>13208999
Does it still exist? Would anyone apply?
>>13209044
I see sarcasm wasn't something they learn in SEA schools.

>>13209026
Zzzz
Check days, Myth outfits were not a relay

>>13208999
Because they could barely handle managing one talent, there's no way they'll be able to handle more, and Suisei's situation proves this

>TOP WINNERS OF THE DAY - NOVEMBER 2021

1) Marine (Hololive) - 34.7k - Karaoke
2) Pekora (Hololive) - 42.5 - Minecraft (Sport fest prep)
3) Chronoir (Nijisanji) - 48.9k - Announcement
4) Pekora (Hololive) - 36.4k - Rhythm Heaven
5) Luis Cammy (Nijisanji) - 39.4k - 3D Debut
6) Miko (Hololive) - 81.5k - Minecraft Sports Fest
7) Miko (Hololive) - 69.7k - Sport Fest Totsu
8) Pekora (Hololive) - 57.6k - Evil God korone
9) Subaru (Hololive) - 44k - Evil God Korone
10) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 56k - Kuzuha Concert Free Part
11) Pekora (Hololive) - 55k - First FFXIV stream
12) Fumi (Nijisanji) - 38k - 3D Debut
13) Rushia (Hololive) - 81k - Outfit reveal
14) Marine (Hololive) - 81.8k - Subaru's High profile case
15) Lamy (Hololive) - 83.3k - Birthday 3D
16) Pekora (Hololive) - 31.8k - Ape Escape 3
17) Marine (Hololive) - 34k - Bus Simulator
18) Pekora (Hololive) - 82.5k - Minecraft Mod with Marine

>>13208999
It's a a dead brand

>>13208960
That’s a good point. Still there are things to hype for in December so it shouldn’t be a shit month at least

>>13209070
Ironic shitposting is still shitposting

>>13209026
No it wasn't

>>13209026
Go check the month start of May on holostats you fucking retard. It was not a relay.

>>13209089
Nijisanji has to go 12-0 the rest of the way for a win and 11-1 for a tier. Hololive hasn't clinched yet.

<HONORARY HOLO?
>HONORARY HOLO!
TRIBALFAGS BTFO!
(ᵐᵃᵗᵘˡᶦ ᵇᵗᶠᵒ)

>>13209089
That’s a lot of Marine and Pekora. I love my girls

>>13209092
>>13209078
They still associate themselves with Hololive and more fame points if they do collab songs with other holos as a vtuber. If they can't handle one Suisei, how does other labels especially Kamitsubaki handle their singers?

>>13209158

>>13209089
why not just call the marine one "sister marine"? subaru literally only appeared for a minute to end the stream

>>13209060
They are going to sing the national anthem for the tourists.

"Jooooseeeeee, can you see? Hororaibu numbah one!."

>>13208803
>and December will be a decline month
morally