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Yesterday's views
>>13197807and SCs
>>13197807Did Mel get a big bump from Nene here?
>>13197845kind of since it's an offcollab but Mel has been incline as of late
>TOP WINNERS OF THE DAY - NOVEMBER 20211) Marine (Hololive) - 34.7k - Karaoke2) Pekora (Hololive) - 42.5 - Minecraft (Sport fest prep)3) Chronoir (Nijisanji) - 48.9k - Announcement4) Pekora (Hololive) - 36.4k - Rhythm Heaven5) Luis Cammy (Nijisanji) - 39.4k - 3D Debut6) Miko (Hololive) - 81.5k - Minecraft Sports Fest7) Miko (Hololive) - 69.7k - Sport Fest Totsu8) Pekora (Hololive) - 57.6k - Evil God korone9) Subaru (Hololive) - 44k - Evil God Korone10) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 56k - Kuzuha Concert Free Part11) Pekora (Hololive) - 55k - First FFXIV stream12) Fumi (Nijisanji) - 38k - 3D Debut13) Rushia (Hololive) - 81k - Outfit reveal14) Marine (Hololive) - 81.8k - Subaru's High profile case15) Lamy (Hololive) - 83.3k - Birthday 3D16) Pekora (Hololive) - 31.8k - Ape Escape 317) Marine (Hololive) - 34k - Bus Simulator
>>13197826What is Mori's gimmicks and strategies that makes her have consistent $1-2k SC every stream this past weeks? She will also have a new song this month right?
>>13197845there are also some other reasons , like Mel streaming more often and her being overall fairly likeable but yeah
>>13197336are the guests confirmed? also I don't think it is going to look great she declined so muchdidn't she do a 3D live earlier this year and it didn't even has 40k?
>>13197922She beat a really tough area in Jump King last stream. Not sure why her Earthbound streams get so much though. Deadbeats are just like that.
>>13197922It feels like forever ago, but iirc she leaned really heavily into GFE in membership streams. Like, hard. You could ask mori general to clarify, but I'm pretty sure it was pretty much straight up date streams?(if any deadbeat with t3 membership is lurking, please clarify because this info is second-hand). That she backed off hard once the new year rolled around because 'cringe', but the gachis never left her. That, plus you know the SCs are going to music, and you know she'll 100% read the SC and thank you no matter what.
>>13197903Hololive - 8Pekora - 5Nijisanji - 4Nijisanji may beat Pekora this month.
>>13197922I think that's normal for the ones that reads SCs every stream in EN. Irys is the same way. She earned 225,390円 today. Kiara and Gura are the same.
>>13198121lmao.
>>13198168>She earned 225,390円 today.Nah that's her previous RE8 one. Today was 157,359円
>>13198193I see. But yeah. Still standard for her. it only goes up when she does karaoke. Council though is different. It fluctuates. Does Fauna read her SC after stream?
I will remind slow and steady anon
>>13198121You accidentally doing Meth instead of math
https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1461219017855680521?s=20Cover is now collabing with the japanese consolateholy shit
>>13197922GFE. Pic rel
>>13198257The Japanese consulate are a bunch of memelords. Also why is Hololive using Council for this sort of thing? It seems above their paygrade and way above their level of prestige.
>>13198243Kek. Even AI know about slow and steady
>>13198321Cover seem to be giving them a lot of resources so they can punch above their weightclass. A lot of sponsorships and a lot of events. Myth is an established brand while Council still isn't so I suppose it's a good tactic for sustainability.
>>13197903>so far no normal stream can earn gold for nijisw-wow
>>13198428I don't think it's that deep. It looks like it's out of convenience since it's related to the convention that Council is already going to appear in
>>13197378They are lovers
Man I have a feeling that haachama's 3d live today is going to be one of the weakest ones we've had in a while. Chammers hardly streaming, none of the other holos shilling it so far, no signs of guests. And I'm saying this as a former haaton, I hope I'm wrong though
>>13197692That's The Northern Blade
>>13198552Anon, you say this but the sponsorships thus far, post-Council debut, have been prioritized/handed off to Council. I think Cover is doing this consciously and it's not a bad move. Council can stand by itself, however it's always good to provide them the leg up. I'll be watching for how Cover handles JP6, though perhaps the companies who sponsor the JPs will have more sway over who gets it.
>>13198590This is going to get so many replies in about two hours
>>13198595I'm only referring to the japanese consulate partnership. It's directly tied to the convention that the Council is already participating in. For sure Cover is giving them exclusive sponsorships like Blue Archive but this one ain't it.
>>13198590You're probably not wrong. While I don't think she's going to quit anytime soon, it's clear to me that she's not putting nearly as much effort as she used to be. For good reason too since she's probably busy with Uni, prioritizing that rather than her career as a Holo for now. I wonder if the current trend will reverse for her or if she'll continue to coast. Feel free to grudgepost my ass if I'm wrong.
>>13198592Anon, the filename already says that...
>Pekora, Miko, Subaru, and Suisei in the same timeslotJesus christ
>>13198629Oh you meant that. Yeah, no that's just because Council was already slated to be in AnimeNYC. Who knows though, the consulate stuff could've been talked about in advance to them being selected.
>>13198595Gen5 has the most brand deals as the group only second to Gen3 so I can say they will be a hot ticket for spons. Not unless they suck balls so hard. I mean even when the unit is a member less they are still picked up as a group when spons are considered for them. I think it's an advantage since they can beef it up like that amusement fair collab with Fubuki
>>13198621He qualified as “one of the weakest in a while”. Even a 55k would meet that standard, given the many recent 80k
>>13198590I'm with you fellow holofan. 25k seems like the roof. You need a bit of a parade. Also there will be no view funneling; Kanata, Okayu, and Polka aren't big enough for that. I don't think Haato-chan's 3D will even win the Hololive gold much less the real gold.
>>13198681>Gen5 has the most brand deals as the group only second to Gen3Aqua alone mog gen5 sponsorship, try again
>>13198681Eh, part of why Gen 5 gets so many brand deals is because of Botan's pull though. Botan has so many fucking connections, plus she's a really good choice for a sponsorship. Lamy as well what with her connections. Actually, all things considered, Gen 5 is pretty stacked in terms of networking. If I see JP6 getting a crapton of sponsorships I'll call the hypothesis validated. Probably won't be for a while though, since I think Cover has settled down with its current roster.
>>13198656Tbf, miko is collabing with Suisei.
>>13198257HoloCouncil is directly tagged in tweet. I think this is all on them.
>>13198750Polka is an industry veteran and has connections galore.
>>13198748As a group. Not just 1 person.>>13198750Anon. All of them have been racking exclusive partnerships in some way of form. You only see Botan because her partnership are all game related but as far as magazine, concerts, seiyuu va and even brand deals like that premium sake, It's up for grabs. Only Polka is weak but then again she did get her own character for that 1 game and was able to sing a song with Azki for that dating game
>>13198797Yeah that's what I mean, Polka's a veteran, Nene was formerly in the idol field. They're all pretty stacked.
https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1461265424197296131Let's hope SPWN can survive
you guys are gonna trigger the gen 5 schizo although I do agree that gen 5 is the most successful gen after gen 3 in JP
>>13198805Catch the funnel!
>>13198805I get that the rest of them have a crapton of deals as well, but to me Botan stands out since her sponsorship deals are not just constant but also varied, being from different companies. They're a strong gen overall in terms of sponsorships for sure.
>>13198892damn they're lining up to catch the funnel. Hopefully the birthday atleast go beyond mel's number. Do we even have a guest list?
>>13198805>As a group. Not just 1 personanon adding more gen2 member will mog gen5 harder..
>>13198873Their tech team will be shitting brix
>>13198873likely why they offered NND viewing to minimize the load on spwn
>>13198892why do duck utawaku and micomet minecraft have to overlap each other fuck
>>13198938they all want that sweet birthday funnel.
>>13198922>Do we even have a guest list?Haachama went the meme route and made a big splash with her choice of thumb but she didn’t talked much about this (like Suisei and Lamy and Mel) so it’s unlikely it’ll be as high as the recent ones
>>13198892>Look at schedule>Risu stream at same time as Haachama 3D liveAh... Back to normalcy
Another animation. I like and hate this guy's strategyhttps://twitter.com/mochimikoo/status/1460895988005101568https://twitter.com/mochimikoo/status/1460895988051181572He does one in EN and one in JP and doesn't give the full animation in the tweet, he links the animation in the tweet but the embedded video itself is embedded with a link to the youtube channel. Result? 270k views between two videos but only 23k views on twitter. My big issue with this is splitting the video between two channels. It is better to have one behemoth channel than it is to have two channels.
>>13198656Even more, high chance all of them are going to stream minecraft. PEBOT + guest(99% marin) is this week(but no indication of today) and Subaru wanted to trap Pekora for a month already.
>>13198994yeah pekora has one more ape escape to do and a PEBOT stream, so Pekora minecraft is actually high.
>>13198922only watame confirm so far
>>13198969the holoID special
>>13198932I hope the PTSD of Suisei's live lives deep in their souls. That was a bit of a farce from SWPN, and a full gen3 concert is absolutely bigger than solo Sui-live.
>>13198927Anon. You are talking in whatifs. How about you actually force Ayame to stream a spons stream first?
>>13198981Well, each animator is free to choose their strat. Dudul apparently visited /#/ and indicated that twitter engagement was really important for landing more gigs and that YT hates animators(which is true, goddamn I hate how YT has bent animators over in the past, and is part of the reason egoraptor gave up the animation game).
>>13199202believe it or not she actually did on one of her latest streams kek https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tr78G5PJHNo
>>13199162They fixed it halfway through, from the sounds of it it was a server misconfiguration rather than a limitation of their hardware.
>>13199202Anon Subaru is gen 2 member you know that right?
>>13199303She's not part of Gamers?
did the gen 3 merch sell out?
>>13199274Ah, it was a misconfig, that makes way more sense ( I was watching it live, the shift was drastic) Well, SPWN better be ready, because if there are any issues oh boy are people gonna be....unhappy.
>>13199274Did they sack the cameraman who made a mess of the whole thing with akward panning and zooming out?
>>13199314Anon ... Your Holo rep ...
>>13199202>>13199236>believe it or not she actually did on one of her latest streamsHow can an oni so small be so powerful?>AYAMESAMAAAAA
>>13199314
>>13199328Gen 3 doesn't have many schizo fans.
>>13199378>>13199336Then why does she collab with mostly Gamers/Luna? The only gen 2 I see her with often is Choco.
Ah yes, there it is kek
>>13199400You sure about that? Nousagi alone...
I saw a video on my feed yesterday that made me realize how amazing Hololives numbers are. You kind of get desensitized to it and lose a sense of scale. The Overwatch Dragons short has 37 million views, posted 5 years ago.https://youtu.be/oJ09xdxzIJQMade me realize Hololive songs getting 10 million views in under a year is actually incredible since Hololive is still far more niche than Overwatch.
>>13199314She's SMOK, that's why you got confused.t. nijifag who watches Holo clips
>>13199551>why does she collab with mostl-There is no in-gen obligation for collab. Gen 3 and Gen 5 are the absolute exceptions, Gen 1 rarely hang out, Gen 2 is like you said, Gen 4 was scattered even before Coco leaving.Gen 3 is the dark horse and Gen 5 got united by the obvious early event that tightened their bonds.
>>13199593I think ochame kino is getting close to 37 million plays
>>13199593songs has more replayable values than these animated shorts no matter how good they are. but you are correct that our sense of numberfagging has gotten quite numbs since we are so used to seeing huge numbers. if you're not impressed by their numbers, just remind yourself that Sora started off with 13 viewers and her company is now at the apex of vtubing.
>>13199593If you have bots, anything is possible.
>>13199834Nijifag please stop embarrassing yourself.
>13199834Then why did Nijikeks fell down?
>>13199834Nijibros, its time for us to stop paying clippers and pay for bots instead.
don't bite obvious bait fucking retards
>>13199876>Nijibros, its time for us to stop paying clippersI'll take "thing that never happened" for 600 Alex.
Kuzuha, shiina & ririmu got sponsored to do an ad with a telecom company. What?
>13199901>he didnt knowAHAHAHAHAHA
Well, we have about 30k across 3 streams before Haachama's live. Let's see how the numbers end up (Okayu and Noel both have 10k+ and Kanata is climbing her way uo to 10k with smash)
>>13199901>He doesn't know
>he doesn't know about the paid clippersNext he'll deny the paid ads over Hololive videos
>>13199901Pretty well known that clippers got hired to work for EN and are on their channel. Nijisanji also pays reactors to make REACTING TO LE NEW SONG videos.Meanwhile Holofags insert their clips as ads on anything they want.
>>13199907>>13199917NTA, and I've heard this one before, but what proof is there that clippers (that aren't clipping onto the main channels) were paid to clip Niji?
>>13199960>pays reactors to make REACTING TO LE NEW SONG videosWhich, incidentally, cannibalizes the search for their new songs because Niji doesn't tag their songs properly with latin script, making it "unsearchable"
>>13199917>>13199956>>13199960You're joking. You have no proof of the paying for clippers and reaction videos. We all know about the ads.
>>13200007Yea, ads for all 3 waves of NijiEN original is known and has proof, but all I've seen for paid clippers (that aren't on the main channel) is rrats without timestamps or screenshots. If you've got em, slap down an archive post or the actual thing though.
>>13199960Yeah I wonder what is the purpose of the clippers at the nijiEN channels, kek seems pretty useless and they are just helping the clippers get more subs than they can gain from themselves
>>13200002I can see why most of Suisei songs have so many viewers. It's because she use English for song title
>>13200082Hololive is an international brand, and you'd be a goddamn fool not to use English for title songs (or have both English and JP)
>>13200082https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLak0dxBKpMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqT6cHCT1TE
Wait, are they really putting their first nijiKR original song with the same timeslot as the premier to their next cover album? Do they not want their KR branch to thrive?
>>13200171S-she put official there! Nijisanji da best!!!!! No illegal international views!!!!!!
>>13200007Do you think translators would be working for the main channel for free???https://twitter.com/NIJISANJI_World/status/1248325318605262853?s=20
>>13200195Even worse, that's supposed to be their anniversary song.Do you know when the NijiKr anniversary is?25th January.This song was delated for 10 months.
>>13200227Nijifags truly are cringe
>Kanata isn't stopping her stream for Haachama>neither is OkayuuSo much for box pushing.
>>13200227ahahaha goddamn.
>>13200007>You have no proof of the paying for clippers>>13199965>that aren't clipping onto the main channelsUh, you may be right on a technicality.This bloke right herehttps://www.youtube.com/c/NekoMikuri/communityIs a paid clipper for Nijisanji but it seems his output is posted on their main channel while his passion clips are on his main channel.Interestingly enough he is one of the clippers that helped Pekora into stardom, with that >Pekora throws sword into lavacliphttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fmr21ZZEhkSo the fact check is1) Nijisanji indeed pays for clippers2) They post on Nijisanji channel instead of theirs
>>13200227that's some digging lmao. i will start calling nijifags as nijilovers now
haachama 60k possible?
>>13200227lulu......
>Pekomari single pov minecraft going against micomet split pov minecraftPredictions?
>>13200269I don't think there is anything wrong with paying for clippers to clip on your channel. It's only slimey when you pay them to clip on their own channel.
>>13200257Fucking bitches, atleast Noel promoted it
>>13200299nosource:my roosterdidn't lay aneggtonight
>>13200329Oh, they both just ended their streams.>>13200324Haachama won't win.
>>1320032450k Pekomari30k micomet
>>13200269>making niji clips for money>making holo clips for freeWhat a chad
>>13200299Not impossible but opening numbers aren't pointing to that direction.15k from the waiting room puts the final number around 40k?
>>13200299She'll hit 100k mark my words Anon's
Predict the PekoMarine MC collab without split
>>13200362shit, that would make her below mel tier.
>>13200329>Fucking bitches, atleast Noel promoted it>>13200348>Oh, they both just ended their streams.Dumb anons don't know how funnel works best1) Start the next stream2) Wait a little with the prev streams3) End prev streams: youtube algo will shuttle the public to the nextHaachama is still on her long ass OP
https://twitter.com/minatoaqua/status/1461289658738872320Aqua's sololive will feature guests.
Haachama 21k on end of OP, over/under on 40k>PREDICTIONS?I say it beats 40k, but not 45k
>>13200299>no big guestsnope
>>13200415Aqua (notsosolo)live
>>13200257>>13200329Chill retards, the new meta for box pushing is a few minutes later when the new frame is up.
>>13200415ILEGAL
>>13200379>below mel tier.kek, Mel had one of the strongest lives recently anon.Watching Haachama now, it's less of a 3D live and more of one of her variety streams, that happens to be 3D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E53D9tfVi4EI found our winner today
>>13200355>Sex with Holochad for free>Sex with nijibetamale for moneyLMAO
Hawaata, it had guests after all
>>13200324They couldve scheduled this tomorrow or the weekends… easy win for hajime and splatoon tournament…
>>13200483If they bump into micomet for a while it'll be a numbers singularity
>>1320048360k minimum
>>13200327Nijifags truly are nijinigger>heh there is no proof nijisanji pays for clips you holotards!>gets proven wrong>t-there is nothing wrong with paying for clippers geez!!!Nijinigger
>>13200540>If they bump into micomet for a while it'll be a numbers singularityThat's illegal!
>>13200483Damn... they couldn't have done this last week during one of the weaker Niji 3D debuts? lmao
What happened?
>>13200504Matsuri will come, I beleeb.
>>13200246what did anykara mean by this?
>>13200416over 40k, but not by much
>>13200562Mischedule, she has a collab with pekora instead
10 min to 30k. I think I underestimated Haachama, lads
>>13200578
>>1320059750k is actually doable
>>13200227And what's wrong with hiring people to work on the official channel? And how does this relate to video reactions and regular clippers?
>>13200562Anon marine removed her reserved frame because she will be in Minecraft with pekora.
>>13200294>diggingI literally googled "nijisanji hired clippers". Are you telling me you losers can't even google...
https://twitter.com/usadapekora/status/1461290477815173126Pekora will mog haachama on (the day of) her birthday (stream).
>Mikowtf haachama, why did you not announce the guests
>>13200624He is still denying nijisanji hired clippers even though the proof is right there incredible
Haachama, you could have 60k easy with this line up. Dumb broad. I thought you were in college.
>>13200686ikr my numberfag mind is seething
>>13200597Pekomari will mog this just like aqua live huh..I know it's kinda impossible but any niji stream gonna beat pekomari?
>>13200415good, another solo live is too much to the cute retard
>>13200686HOLY SHIT, if Haachama had advertised this properly (like Lamy and Mel) she could have a 90k in her hands here
>>13200719This fucking retard.
>>13200483>4k already waitingI kneel
>15 min, 36kStill going strong and the word must be going out that this has guests
>>13200652Based bunny, Haachama not advertising this is her own fault.
>Pekora and Marine collab buff after a long time>Birthday funnel buff>Oneblock/Skyblock novelty buffHoly shit the rabbit is not pulling punches wtf.
Holy shit, Haachama JK energy is off the charts
Haachama isn't a numberfag and was getting pissed off being called one, so now she'll do everything to make numberfags seethe
>>13200744I predict like 50k
>>13200759for times like these I have this image
>>13200694Haachama gave up really caring about numbers after she hit 1m and came back to Japan. Simple as. Which annoys my numberfag brain, but you know, that's just the way this silly girl goes.
>>13200652>>13200483Damn why does PekoMari and MiComet collabs just had to overlap.Miko! Adjust your stream and start 1hr later.PekoMari: 40kMiComet: 30k
>>13200850Pekora is furious Miko traded her for Suisei
>>13200759its too bad it shares the slot with pretty strong streams too, rare unarchived duck utawaku and micomet minecraft (in demand lately)
>>13200850Anon 40k is quite low. Even with this overlap pekomari will break 50k.
>>13200850Whoever ends last gets the funnel of the one that ends first.
>20 min, 42k, no sign of abatement NEW ROUND OF PREDICTIONS, over and under on 50kI say it beats 50k but not 55k
Haachama needs 50k or she is subject to possible slippage.
>>13200877pekomiko bros?
>>13200719these two shaking their asses like... that is something else
Haachama 3d, Pekomari and Micomet all in the same day. How hard will holo dominate today?
Risu is actually smart. She's the only alternative for anyone not into the live
Pekomari, Micomet and subuaru starting at the same time, wtf is this overlap.
>all your A-listers on at the same fucking timeWhy
>>13200933Same, the no advertising of guests hurt, a lot. With this lineup 60k would'ven been easy for Haachama if she simply said "these guests will be there"
Haachama surely got friends. I can only imagine what Matsuri would have to do to clear the air after she done goof'd like that (but putting both Haachama and Rushia on the spot)
>>13200878Nah, Pekora is overjoy. Marine is a superior partner than Miko. Someone that is close to Pekora's level when it comes to ccv.
>>13201040"We want the funnel"It's very clear, everyone knows what happens when the live ends, and they want a share of those numbers. All the girls are numberfags, as Botan said (paraphrased).
>>13200879Subaru will have an Utawaku and Fubuki will also stream.All Top HoloJP will be streaming at 9pmJSt.*Pekora/Marine, Miko/Suisei, Subaru, Fubuki
>>13200933Thinking 55k to 60k; I think its starting to get a bit more of a gradual incline now that people are learning it has guests. It started out about 4k-5k behind Mel's #s but gap has been reduced to ~3k in last few minutes.
>>13201048>competitive players
>>13201086Lmfao, any clips on that?How can Lion Hag be this based
>>13200719she'll get the views anyways - live or vod watchers, doesnt really matter in the end for her.
>got fucking SUISEI toowhat the fuck chammers
>Suisei + FlareFucking hell chamers
>>13201126shame she's a whore
Bros........ this line up wtf. Next thing you know Coco is gonna show up and this retard didnt annouce anything
>>13201048>vultures I meant that as a compliment
Hachaama you fucking retard, why didn't you announce the guest before hand...
>>13201220>>13201222Suisei has never sung Envy Baby in any of her karaokes too so this is new.Fucking hell indeed.
>>13201223the formula is true
WHAT AN ALL STARS CAST
>>13201228Basedchama
>>13201048>MiComet and PekoMari both playing a buff gameI LOVE NUMBERS
>>13201086>All the girls are numberfagsevery streamer is a numberfag and they definitely know that they are below theirs peers. After some time you learn to ignore that part.
holy shit haachama this couldve been an easy 100k
Lmao why did Haato do this what the fuck
>>13201263kek nice
>>13201228This was a 70k+ for sure if she announced the guests. Fucking Haachama.
>>13201263dont care about that, she collabed with a dude
>>13201271The songs tooEnvy Baby after King.
>>13201228yeah this shit is all stars. I wouldn't even know it was today if I didn't check this thread.
>>13201306Nice screenshot, where did you steal it from?
>>13201306Lmfao, keep seething unicornfag or are you the Gen5 Schizo?
>>13201324Same, kek. I was watching an Idolbu mc collab until I checked the thread.
>Suisei>Miko>Watame>Flare>Kanata>still not 50kWhat a recline.
>>13201306are you the guy that got assblasted
I think another thing harming Haachama's Live besides not announcing guests in advance is the fact that Haachama has bucked the recent trend of pre-recorded Lives that have set expectations on quality. On one hand, we're getting live and adorable ad-lib chatter moments but the choreography and singing portions are taking a hit for sure.
>>13201339
Suisex and Noel's Wife made Haachama get 50k
>>13201385nice inspect element bro, did you learn to do it yourself or did you have to ask your mommy for help
50k GETAlso>Haachama done goof'd and her first poster for this show had "28/11" kek
>>13201366it's the guy who got assblased on /hlg/
I guess Pekora, subaru and Miko waiting for the funnel makes more sense now if they know how jam packed the guests was.
>>13201416cope Botan sucks
Make Micomet move their streams so they don't fuck up PekoMarine's numbers.
>>13201385Fake or not, here's a (you), now keeping seething unicornschizo.
>>13201370Anon, this is prerecorded.Or do you honestly believe they could switch guests that quickly?
>HSKWHAACHAMA YOU FUCKING DUMBASS SAY SOMETHING ABOUT WHO YOUR GUESTS ARE FIRST
Matuli...
>>13201370All she said was she was having a 3d and posted a dude cosplaying her as her thumbnail....
UNITY AAAAA
>HoshikawaDafuq
>Hoshikawa............>Turing Love
DAMN!!! Haachama flexing on Festival!!Hoshikawa as Guest and singing Turing LoveMy sides
The fuck, Sara
>>13201451And three of your "memberships" have collabed with males too
>>13201056Matsuri, don't look now!
>>13201357Hit 50k right before HSKW came on screen even
festival...
TRIBALISTS BTFO!>MATULI, DON'T LOOK!
Oh. She roped Hoshikawa in. Well then. WHY HAACHAMA. WHY DID UOU NOR ADVERTISE YOUR GUEST LIST?!?!!
NIJIBROS ARE WE IN WE GETTING GOLD TODAY???
LMFAO EVEN HOSHIKAWA IS HERE
Niji chick in the building wtf?
MATULI DON'T LOOK DON'T LOOK
>>13201553>interview copeAki is married so its fine for her
Remember when towa had marine and pekora in her birthday live and didnt even put then in the thumbnail? Some girls prefer the surprise to the numbers
Festival on Suicide Watch!!!!
>>13201553Aren't most of Aki songs back then accompanied by a sexy JP bro on the guitar?
I still think Hoshikawa's potential is ruined in Niji
Half gold, kek. WTF chammers.
>>13201578kek
>>13201616yes
>Haachama is honorary Niji now.LETS FUCKING GO NIJISISTERS!!!
>>13201578fucking kek.
This outfit, nijisanji is vshojo tier
Dare?
Damnit why couldn't it have been Coco
Watch the next guest to be Matsuri to kill all rrats
>>13201628Well, she got rejected by Yagoo. She should've waited a bit and auditioned for gen 2.
>>13201628HEY NIJIBROS, IT'S TIME FOR>TRADE ALERT<TRADE ALERT>TRADE ALERT<TRADE ALERT>TRADE ALERT<TRADE ALERT>Hololive gets Hoshikawa, Toko and the choice of either a weekly Astel-Kanae APEX collabs on alternating channels OR Kuzuha going on a break for 2 weeks>Nijisanji gets Matsuri, Ollie and Anya to revitalize their ID branch and 25 minutes with Pekora on skype to ask her about numberfagging strategiesDO WE HAVE A DEAL?
Nijisisters! It’s our time!
So, probably only one more song since the between parts have been pretty long. Has to be a good guest to get to 60k, current 54k is good though might be the gold today with all the overlaps going on.
ALWAYS BELIEVE IN THE PLAN NIJISISTERS! SLOW AND STEADY
>>13201628the only reason you care about her is cause her model is pure sex like hachaama's
>>13201628Nah, Festival is with Hololive so if she joins then her virginity is in trouble. >>13201723Pekora will teach them wrong to sabotage them, it's not worth it nijibros.
>>13201597>>13201616>>13201553Get the fuck out from /#/ and make bait thread losers
>>13201459Ya, poor word choice given Suisei and Miko are streaming right after...hmm...let's go with Haachama didn't as much a fuck for best possible Idol take and was more focused in just casual banter between songs.
is this type of thing the most bitchy behaviour we'll get in hololive?
Since this is a win for Unity.They really look like sisters, HSKWs' model's really high poly and fits right in with the rest of Hololive.
>>13201578>Haachama>Watame>Miko>Kanata>Flare>Suisei>HskwNiji gets about 16% of the gold
>>13201723I'd take this deal.
>>13201751>>13201723Pekora is an idiot savant at numberfagging and will just destroy their branch by accident.
wow this girl, don't bring your nijibully habit in hololive
>>13201742I don't even watch her. Frankly, Lulu has a better model and design in my opinion. I'm strictly thinking from a numberfag's perspective.
NijiJP can make guest appearance even in 3D Celebrations.How come NijiEN can't even score a collab? Omega deems them unworthy?
>>13201828Other way around NijiEN manger is a faggot
>>13201828NijiJP is worthy, they at least put up a fight and up until recently were in the lead. NijiEN were DOA and have not recovered.
pls haachama the growth
Haachama and Hoshikawa surely have a good thing going.On the numbers side, other than in some collab I may be missing or something on the main channel, the largest audience Hoshikawa had in her channel since Mado started tracking is>17kfor this streamhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgvIwMmh-AAWhich, interestingly, had Haachama as a callerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVbDzoLph78
For better or for worse, this is definitely a return to the prior style of Hololive's 3D Lives and bucking the recent trend of highly produced ones.
It won't slip today nijibros, we won
>>13201828because on the jp side they are friends outside of work. whereas on the EN side a collab would be their first and only form of interacting
miComet's Minecraft moved to 22JST.
>Miko delayed by an hourILLEGAL
it broke 55k with no guest announcements and just Beardchama as thumbnail. My numberfag heart is in pain of what could have been.....
>>13201828Hoshikawa and Honma paid their way into these kind of celebrations. Even if they were friends before, HSKW did nothing during Haachama's taiwan yabe while Toko didn't give a fuck and collabed with her in less than two weeks. So much for company restrictions during that time.
>>13201828>Omega deems them unworthy?NOT ON MY WATCH, MIDGETS
>>13201895Nijibros cheered ironically too hard, Peko is getting gold for sure
You guys know that Haachama and Hoshikawa are good friends, right? They've known each other for a long while now.
>>13201895>>13201913ILLEGAL OVERLAP AVOIDANCE
Lmao, Mikomet moved up their stream by an hour. Seems like they realized Pekomarine is just too powerful to compete.
>>13201828https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLgz57tguKo
>>13201895Lmfao, Can PekoMari beat Haachama??Damn you nijibros, why you gotta announce Haachama already won. Your slip curse even affected chammers.
>>13201913Miko realizing her mistake going up against the best pair gen 3 collab.
>>13201925Collabed with Suisei*
>>13201913>>13201895MOSHI MOSHI, KEISATSU DESU KA!?>I would like to report illegal activities>OK, I'll wait, what's the name of the officer that will take the report?>Office Oozora? OK
>>13201810Where did this retarded meme come from? She clearly does her research and planning thoroughly.
>>13201970Honestly, if Haachama loses i'm blaming nijiniggers and their curse of slipping.
bros...what would the numbers be if she advertised the stream as much as mel or lamy did?
the shirt and the bag are kinda meh but the mousepad is pure sex, it will sell well
>>13201895>>13201913Holy shit call the police.
>>13201879Is that ignoring her 3D debut where she got 86k, or what's the metric here?https://playboard.co/en/video/9lPuJIcGdUM
>>13202026>implying the police is not on the take
>>13202016at least 20k more
>>13201972Get lost nijifuckers hololive already won the day, give it a rest.
>>13201957Marine doesn't have her own POV, Pekora would get the bigger numbers no matter what
>No Matuli as guestoh no no no
>>13202009She clearly does, but as other anons pointed in earlier threads. Her decisions on timeslots and game choice doesn't make sense sometimes but always magically work for some reason, hence the idiot savant.
>>13202016What is the point of speculating hypothetical numbers?
>>13198590 here, this went much better than i expected sasuga godchammers. well it wasnt as insane as the other recent ones like lamy's but 55k is still really really good. glad to know i was wrong
>>13202047Since Mado has records anon. That would be 2021-07-17. I can't look back further than that
>>13202064Invalid, the winning stream has UNITY
>>13201862What is the source for that?
>>13202090>she makes better decisions than I would have therefore she must be an idiot???
If Haachama gave us the guest list 3 days ago with HSKW as a ??? she could have had 75kWhy does she hate us? 55k with this line up is disgraceful
I know we enjoy teasing the Slip-Up meme but can PekoMari actually beta Haachama.55k is hard to get especially since Subaru and FBK will be streaming as well.
>>13202085Let the rrats continue. Clearly Chammers still holds a grudge against Matsuri! There. Go forth and baitpost!
Mel's show still has a higher production value.
>>13202009It's more of a case of, she just does to many correct things. She can't be scheming this, there are plenty of proof that she isn't a brainiac. She can research sure but she just has to have a natural talent+luck, picking the right things at the right times. t.nousagi
https://twitter.com/7216_2nd/status/1326355021093498880STUPID FUCKING MENHERA, ALL YOU HAD TO DO IS NOT TWEET ANYTHING, FESTIVAL
>>13201263can we call this #'s law? the higher the chance for Holo to win the day, the higher the chance the Nijisister to show up and shitting the thread
>>13202159If we're talking about non numeric stuff yeah, it did, but not the same SOVL
>>13202142It would have been impossible with MiComet on the same slot, now it's difficult but not impossible.
>>13202172holy kek
>>13202121I'll freaking blame you if Pekora beats her.It was a sure win until you guys claimed a fraction of the win. The slip-up curse made MiComet move their stream.
>>13202172JEZAS
>>13202016With that line up at least in the 70k+ range.
>>13202201What did she say?
>>13202172Ahahaha holy shit.
>>13202172Kek
>>13202185huh, what do you mean? I'm pretty sure Mel did better than Haachama.
>>13202172Menhara pls
NOOOOOOOOOOOO HAAACHAMA! It's too early for the funnel!I just got moved to here
>>13202172how do we save her bros..
>>13202159Not even comparable when it comes to preparation and guest list honestly.Mel's live had dance choreo for almost every performance + commissioned art of the performers.Haachama's is 2020 Hololive 3D live quality, lots of fist-pumping and side stepping.
>>13202064anon, Im probably one the biggest nousagi in this thread. I think you need to recalculate your nijiradar.
Jesas
>>13202172Graduation soon uoohh imagines the number.
What's with all these niji collabs?
>>13202273>cbtWhat did she mean by this?
>>13202134Considering these 3D lives are now just a collection of 4-10 min segments shot at different times, it might be that it wasn't even completed 3 days ago.From watching it, there were portions where it looked like there should be some artwork on screen to be added in post, like in Lamy's, but she maybe never got it done.I think even she didn't know up till 2 days ago when it would air and all the segments which will make the final cut.At least she updated the thumbnail.
Rushia Twitter 1 million followers, the 6th .
>>13202172FUCK, IT'S OVER!
>>13200362oh shit, haachama had a 15k waiting room, and pekomarine already has 18k waiting..could they??
>>13202307They... like each other and wants to collab?
>>13202121the stream didn't end with hoshikawa so no
20k waiting for PekoMari
>>13202310Anon...(Closed Beta Test)
60k possible?
jesas
Pekkers already have 22k LMFAO
"All stream are just Pekora's waiting room" - some jp dude.
>>13202273anon, your dislike bar is already gone?
>>13202142Subaru fubuki aren’t a threat to pekoraHowever miko can easily steal like 10k people off from herShe’s lucky suisei having trouble with her computer for the fifth billion time and not overlap her
>>13202098Headcanon fantasies, I still sometimes wonder by how much Mickey Mantle would have beaten both Babe Ruth and Roger Maris if the second half of his season wasn't marred by injuries in that magical summer of '61.
>>13202338>>1320235070k, take it or leave it (if micomet hadn't delayed I would say 60k but...)
Imagine if Pekora and Miko's first minecraft vc after a long time was advertised and thumbnailed. 70k wouldve been easy considering the marine thing.
at least give the day to the birthdaygirl pekkers... no mercy..
>>13202374numberbunny's luck is stupid crazy sometimes.
>>13201828>Omega deems them unworthy?Omega sees them as a threat. Collaborations between EN can increase interest in nijien and this can lead to losses in viewership.
>>13202374It's the Nijifags Slip-up curse!! or maybe it's just Pekora's Dumb Luck lmao>>13202388Yeah considering it also has the Sports Fest Prep buff
29k waiting
>>13202172we are hlg now
SUSAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>13202427Its not her birthday, her birthday is on August 10 (Ha to)
It actually hit 30K just before it started.
WTF Happened? it was on 28k already, why it went down to 20k?
I don't mind nijis collabing with Hololive. In the end, it won't matter because they aren't able to reach the EOP audience anyway because of the clipping scene and HL's algo hack with anything vtuber related equals to Hololive.
>>13202471Newfagchama...
>>13202471Are you new here? That always happen.
Pekora with a 30k waiting room>>13202450>>13202471Waiting room cull, are you guys new at this?
>>13202435Thank you! at last someone who knows how business works
>>13202307holo id and niji id collab all the time anon
>Make multiple ships with different holos> After it gets good traction instantly ghost any live interaction with them>Wait for few months> Use them as pocket buff in case if you want to get an instant 50k+Is Pekora Lex Luthor?
>>13202477Kek, Hololive stole algo from Niji, so it's not impossible Niji might steal it back. Tick tock, tick tock.
>we could have had 2 70k+ streams today>instead we'll get one55k won't take the gold. She could have had the gold. It could have been an honorary Niji gold.
>>13202471Anon...
beat median while singing numbercha numbercha
Subaru quietly getting 12k on her loading screen
>>13202499I mean, it's definitely been spec'd multiple times in this thread. We know HoloEN has a stranglehold on the clippers scene, why give the competition even an iota of breathing room to get associated in the algo at all?
TODAY THE QUEEN WILL CLAIM THE GOLD ONCE AGAIN!
>>13202539Pekkers already passed 37.5k on her loading screen
>>13202477>me a nijinigger with reclining chuuba
WE CANT LOSE THIS ONE NIJISISTERS
I am prepared for the daily kneel to our Queen, are you?
>>13202435it is like some shitter brand asked them to shill their product for free. Why the fuck would they accept
That's something Pekora does marvellously well: she holds the waiting screen until everybody is at their seats, counteracting the waiting room cull
bunchaing 40k
>40KWhat the actual fuck.
>40K with the pekoraptoo strong, too fucking strong
>40k bun bun chaholy shit wtf
40k on bunbuncha, my knees.
41K peak on the loading screen
>>13202552duh, the two most popular hololive members vs a single duck singing
Fresh out of the loading screen and already at 42k
What's the record for bunbuncha?
41k on end of loading>PEKO-CHAN, I KNEEL!
>>13202608Pretty sure it was with Peko mama
STOP THE COUNT STOP THE COUNT
Hmm, is Pekora's ccv success partly because she's so mindful of her kid audience?
>>13202578But HoloEN is in the shitter already.
>>13202579it feels that it's something she's started with "recently".. Would have to gather data on it though to confirm it, don't know if I cba.
50k EZ
And the cope started
wtf 50k already
50k GET! in fucking 10mins
Hololive fueling is no joke...masyaallah.
>>13202650Ah yes, my favourite kid friendly content: a collab with yab machine Marine
NO NIJISISTERS TODAY WAS GOING TO BE OUR DAY WE WERE GOING TO GET THE GOLD
>>13202654Nah, that's only Sana, Fauna, Ame and Kiara. Mind you that while those 4 are in the shitter nijien don't even register as garbage.
Justice for menhera festival.
50K and we're not in the main event yet holy shit
Pekora getting 50k on Marine sniffing her fur
Silverboy cant even get a bronze..
>>13202645>50k and game hasn't started yet.>>13202664>>13202579I actually can attest to this, it feels like she started this by accident during one of her streams that had small delay and saw the good number.
>it's actually slippingSTOP THE COUNT
>>13202708Niji can't even claim a half gold
TARGET ON SIGHT
i blame nijifags if peko wins the gold today
55k and they not even start the game
>>13202731>IfIt's already at 55k.
She already WON!!!!!Minecraft didn't even start yet
55K already holy
>>13202731She already passed hachaama
>>13202172ISREAL
>tfw Haachama lost because she had a niji on her live and will probably get silver KEK, you can't make this up
>>13202731blame haachama and her autistic tendencies for not shilling the stream properly
56K, it's over.Please keep your curse of slipping to yourselves next time, nijiniggers.
>>13201781welp, not anymore
>>13202698Ina, Gura, Mumei, Calli, Kronii and Bae as well. These girls have declined so fast. There is no more market for vtuber in the West.
I blame Whoreshikawa.
>>13202746curse confirmed, im shitting on nijiniggers for a week
NOOOOOO WE HAD GOLD NIJISISTERS!!!
Holy shit Pekora, did Haachama's bad birthday shill annoy you or something, this is overkill ahahah.
57k!!!!
Honestly, I would've wanted this duo to fuck two events from niji and sony tomorrow, not their own.
>>13202579Why would that matterIt's not like the stream will go different, she still gets the same viewers in the end
So what is this minecraft stream about? Is it another event?
>>13202771>no more market for vtuber in the West.>while getting to collab with Consulate-General of Japan in NY
>>13201751>Hoshikawa>virginitylmao
>hides her utawaku under pekora's big stream so nobody watches hersmart duck, silly duck
Meh, ame and gura would get better numbers
3期生最強。。。
>>13202814Please stop replying to chink
>>13202835She still getting 18k, that's hardly 'nobody'
60k
Pekora 60k and they didn't even entered the game yet>>13202803>Is it another event?Basic bitch run of the mill everyday PekoCraft ft. Marine
>>13202125This thread obviously
>>13202771Fuck off your delusional fuck, most of those average close if not more than 10k, and the one that doesn't, Bae, is inclining hard. Cover just needs to get rid of the failure 4.
>80K with 2 streams
>>1320286063k now
>>13202845>EN vs JP bait already
66k already, Not even a Haachama 3d live could get you gold nijikeks
>>13202845Those bitches are already declining you dumb EN faggot. You keep watching a dying branch while millions will be entertained by true idols.
Is Pekora getting 75k tonight too wishful thinking?
oh I wonder why the schizo has started trying to shit on ENs now.
>>13202881WAIT WAIT WAIT WAIT .... Haachama becoming honorary Niji?
>>13202877Hololive tsuyoi...
>>13202835Stop posting the same thing in two threads
>>13202803Playing a weird one block mod, so there is a weird EOP buff for some it seems popular in minecraft audience?
>>13202778Only for a week? Anon please, shitting on niji should be something you do every day of the year.
>>13202880like clockwork
>>13202894I guess she will get at least 80k
>>13202858Subaru hates her singing voice. She would've drawn even more people to listen to her sing if it weren't for PekoMari
>>13202814>>13202874You're both idiots that bit the bait of the chink EnSchizo. Please learn to resist biting shitty bait.
>>13202895Yeah, trying to restart the "JP vs. EN" timeloop
EN schizo is a chink
>13202890>Dying BranchThen i guess NijiEN is dead on arrival already huh?
>>13202895see >>13201263
>70k>70k>70k
>>13202955Nah, it wasn't even alive to begin with.
THIS IS SUPER FUCKING ILLEGAL
>>13202898Hoshikawa made a guest appearance in her stream so Nijifags claims they get a fraction of her gold.>But Pekora took the gold lmao
and the mod is bugged
>>13202877>90K
70k getIs this the most powerful duo now?
>>13203003While friend is playing a jew game 3.7k...
>>13203003How much does all of Nijisanji have right now?
>watching pekos numbers rise gives the same dopamine hit as seeing Steph go for 50-60 pts. /#/ really is just old /sp/ but vtuber themed.
>i-it is all view funneling! >it's already 15k above that 3D, and shuba has another 20k
nijiwhore ruined chama gold!!
>>13203012Lol ofcourse, They're literally Hololive's Top2
>>13202997>nijifagsReading comprehension is so dead these days you retards can't even pick up on basic sarcasm from other holofags
>>13203048All of them combined have numbers very close to Subaru.
>EN schizo appeared>Time to post thisKuzukek's Vampire cover1st hour: 145k2nd hour: 245k (+100k)3rd hour: 515k (+270k)4th hour: 647k (+132k)5th hour: 740k (+93k)6th hour: 822k (+82k)7th hour: 890k (+68k)8th hour: 936k (+46k)8h20m: 948k (+12k) (600 views/min; -21%)8h40m: 957k (+9k) (450 views/min; -25%)9h00m: 964k (+7k) (350 views/min; -22%)9h20m: 970k (+6k) (300 views/min; -14%)9h40m: 976.9k (+6.9k) (345 views/min; +15%)10h00m: 981.1k (+4.2k) (210 views/min;-39%)10h20m: 984.5k (+3.4k) (170 views/min;-19%)10h40m: 987.6k (+3.1k) (155 views/min;-9%)11h00m: 990.9k (+3.3k) (165 views/min;+3%)11h20m: 994.9k (+4.0k) (200 views/min;+17%)11h30m: 997.0k (+2.1k) (210 views/min;+5%)Hours to 1 million viewsKuzuha - Vampire -> 11h44hm @ 210 view/minuteGura - Reflect -> 10h29minCaligula -> King 11h36mStill hasn't beaten what Reflect and KING got in their first week.
>72k and this mod sucks dickIf they turn this ito a pekoland tour now, they could punch to 80k
added to the cope list whenever holo gets broken ccv>kids channel
>>13203066Don't you guys get tired of coming up with new ways of coping?
>>13203029>399 kek
meanwhile, on the other team
>>13203066Ironic
MATULI... :-(
The thing isn't working, 75K might be impossible now
Still can't beat Luna's collab
>>13203108dead company
>>13203129Unless if they switch to Pekoland tour.
>>13203108disgusting
>>13203117I wish >>13203106
Micomet delayed their collab to avoid Pekomari, right?
>>13203149Possible or touring the EN server
>>13203108No one under Gwelu line, a new record.
>>13203108Hololive : 3 streams 98k viewsNijisanji : 21 streams 22k views
>>13203146What do you mean? this numbers is already above pekoluna no?
>>13203108>if you add them together, you will have around Subaru's numberbros, what the fuck...
>PekoMarine duo has more views than whole gen 3 collabAnyone knows why?
>>13203129My 80k guess...
>meanwhile, while nobody was looking
>>13203157official word is due to sui's camera
>>13203108>No-one above 5kI know that 4k is fine, I know it, but still...DISGUSTING.
>>13203157Suisei's pc apparently has technical issues. Or some weird rabbit luck vodoo.
>>13203178Which one?
>>13203178It's minecraft
>>13203186>22kyeah, no one. nice try Subaru
>>13203108Jesas, forget Pekora, Subaru alone is almost beating the entire of niji (20 chuubas) that are streaming right now combined, what in the actual fuck. This is beyond sad.
>>13203108Wow I'm impressed that dying new nijiJP branch break 4k
>>13203178The full gen 3 collab was on the Hololive channel no? Or are you thinking about when they killed the dragon?
>>13203178PekoMari shippers are too powerful
PekoMarine slowly bleeding due to some error in MC while Duck rises.
>>13203178Pekomarine content has been dried out, just like how Pekora and Miko's vc booster her an instant 15k
>>13203047based, havent had these highs since Suarez 13/14 season. But he's banned, Sturridge debuff!, Sterling debuff!, and ultimately "dis does not slip".
>>13203224>bleeding>Just reached new peak of 73k???
Can HoloJP get 100K CCV with just 3 streams and 4 chuubas?
>>13203224what are you on about, they are still rising?
>>13203108AHAHAHAHAA WTF NIJIKEK!! NO 1 VIRTUAL YOUTUBER COMPANY!!!
Is this middle eastern game Fubuki is playing sponsored or not?
>They inclined again when they are just talking and not playingjesus christ
>>13203253>>13203260It was bleeding minutes ago due to the error.74k already, Can it reach 80k then i wonder?
>>13203108Those pokemon and bloodborne permissions are wasted on this guys. You'd think as a publisher or a developer, giving this guys permissions would give you a bump in sales for games even after years of the games release, but it didn't.
>>13203255Yes they already got 100k
>>13203255They already got it
>>13203255>Can HoloJP get 100K CCV with just 3 streams and 4 chuubas?They just did, meanwhile, niji with 20 chuubas can only get 22k this is beyond sad.
>>13203255Do not fret
>>13203272Old game, it was meme’d to hell back in the day.
>>13203255Tick tock HoloEN, tick tock. Omega, if you are reading this, good luck finding another job you freak.
>>13203272Kagami got 10k playing it a few months ago so it's not unpopular for JOPs
holy shit, blue clapper is so strong
>>13203318Fucking Christ ...
It went down now
oh well its a zatsu-drinking stream now, i guess 80k isnt possible.
>13203331Schizo, just watch your nijikeks
>>13203294Seems like they've turned it into a drinking stream instead? Might drop from that.
>Whomst has summoned the almighty one
Wtf happened to Peko Marine? They can't play Minecraft?
>>13203272She got 10k i her first stream for it. Right now due to overlaps she is this low.
>>13203352What's the category? This is literally dominated by Hololive.
>>13203376The mod wasn't working
>>13203352GEN 5 LOVE
TOP KEK, Risu caught part of and spaghetti handed the funnel.Goes to show that if they're not actively trying to entertain the newly onboarded audience they'll just bounce.
>>13203376Game mod broke, so its drinking stream now. Atleast this will have more clipper material than the boring skyblock one.
>>13203376They couldn't break the block because of spawn protection
>>13203352>Palette on #5Towa...
>>13203398TKB
>>13203369They are drinking to wait for management to fix the mods
Anyone knows who's ENschizo's oshi?
>>13203384https://ototoy.jp/charts/yearly/epanon, look up...
>failed Minecraft collab>still 73kPecker I kneel
>>13203402kek, don't do this, it will rile up the schizos
>>13203402Shuba. . I kneel
Imagine if Pekora/Marine scheduled their plan today for another collab.
>>13203419>>13203399>>13203390hey, at least now they can try it again another day
>>13203402Subaru mogging all the nijikeks alone. Get fucked.
>>13203402TOP FUCKING KEK
>>13203402Top kekFucking embarrassing nijibros
>that straight lineNOBODY MOVING ANYWHERE
>>13203436Cover black magic pls andastand
niji friends meltdown imminent
>>13203433Must be in Nijikeks
>>13203434I don't speak nip, how the heck should I know
>>13203468Such a shame, it could've got 80k.
>>13203433Obviouly Omega, s/he clearly lives rent free in his head.
Oh hey, it's working now. 75K might be possible after all
>>13203402I'll put this up as next thread pic for fun. Afterwards, it's probably one or more thread till we get that sweet niji vs sony shitposts.
>>132033523:12 tsuyoi
>>13203500Its already 75k
75k
Mods finally working, 75k get.
>>13203468With Pekora's number retention and Marine's Zatsudan skills they could fall asleep in stream right now and still get 73k.
>>13203402you will eat your words tomorow holobronys, even the rabit will fall
>inb4 they are waiting for micomet to start their stream to really explode the numbers
>>13203468I've watched Pekora for a long time, it really only makes sense to stop watching if you have to support your oshi or have something IRL thats really important.
76K NOW
So they were fixing the game in the background. PekoxMarine deserves their spot. While Gura and Ame easily gets tilted. I hate to say this, but EN should learn from them.
yeah this is getting 80k no problem
>>13203490it's in English...
AYO WTF STOP THE COUNT
>>13203519Sorry i don't follow Nijis. What NijiEvent will happen tomorrow?
I wonder if there are any unironic nijifan left in this thread.
>>13203540No need, Gura and Ame need to leave Hololive.
>THAT INCLINEAnd anons said there is no such thing as "tab in"
holy shit, PekoMari, Fubuki, and Subaru are still inclining
>>13203318HoloJP tsuyoi...
Holy shit, this might beat the PekoMoon collab
>>13203570Conspiracy, not proven at all.
>>13203433Nijikeks unironically. Dude's a chink lmao
>>132035603D debut along with Sony vtubers debut
>>13203540>>13203566Go commit elevator jump
>>13203570its just bots
>>132035603D debut of one of their most unpopular members ever.The 100-CCV King himself.
Why does enfags keeps deflecting the hate to the chinks and nijiniggers? Atleast nijiniggers knows that they are shit without silverboy while enfags keeps deluding themselves that holoen is the top of the crop
>>13203570the whole tabbing in/tabbing out effecting views was cemented for me with gura's Nintendo direct. i cannot see any explanation for it otherwise
>>13203540No shit, they’ve got ~2 years in the business and had to deal with a lot worse initially than EN ever did. They’ll learn eventually, though I wonder what kind of experience sharing goes on in the background.
>>13203540Management was fixing it in the background. Props to them for launching into a drunk zatsudan instead of just immediately giving up, though. I would expect no less from PekoMarone though.
>>13203604What's the story of this webm? Why did he do it?
Man EN is such a embarrassment compared to actual japanese vtubers. What are they lacking? They can't even compete with actual english streaming top dogs
>>13203615>>13203519
>>13203632They’re both pros, I expected nothing less of them.
>>13203640>Why did he do it?He bought Nijisanji KR shares right before Bora Nun announced graduation
>>13203612It will unironically perform a lot better than the last two 3D debuts they did. Even if nobody watches him, everybody knows who he is as he is a giant meme. The tourists will show up.
Uho aha aha, his almonds got activated
Isn't this more than Kuzuha collabing with ecelebs on among us?
JUST 1K MORE YOU CAN DO IT PEKOMARI
Bad day for niji and chinks huh? what happened? all this samefagging Kek
>>13203674It is.
>>13203664kek
>>13203643You have been at this for like 12 hours. My lord you are pathetic.
>>13203615Because ENschizo like you is a chink and jealous of HoloEN's massive success while HoloCN is literally trash
2 streams, 3 holos, over 100K
>>13203643Cultural differences. EN can pretend to care beyond the money but they never actually will. I absolutely believe even the most casual of normies can pick up on that even through the language barrier.
>>13203604Faggot, learn to distinguish a schizo and normal feedback
>>13203695>12 hoursyou mean weeks
>>13203708I fucking kneel
80k get!!!
80K GET>80K GET80K GET>80K GET80K GET>80K GET80K GET>80K GET80K GET>80K GET80K GET>80K GET80K GET>80K GET
few days ago:>ENs dont care about money, they should graduate!today:>ENs only care about money, they should graduate!
Freaking Pekora!!! I KNEEL!
>>13203695Please understand, his social credit score depends on him shitting up the board.
* streams over 20k so far, unfiltered *
80K GET0KGET
80k I COOM!
>>13203652Please point to what did i got wrong
>>13203741IT'S NOT STOPPING
>>13203713Did I hit a nerve, bug?But there is quick solution for all your problems, Just do what your country men like to do
the funniest shit about this stream is that it was just announced an hour before it started kek
>>13203768Kek
>>13203768kek, no
>>13203784S-stop
>>13203778Marine herself even had a scheduled stream beforehand, which she canceled
Unironically a cold between Pekora and Miko, first W for Pekora today but we will see if Miko can actually catch up or not.
>>13203708And MiKomet starts in 10 minutes, lol. Nijisanji getting absolutely slaughtered today.
>>13203752Silverboy.....niji only pride.........
This is the second time numberbunny did a crazy upset this month after the 3d aqua. I kneel hard.
>>13203775Dumb
>>13203803micomet is split pov, they have no chances
>>13203768Grammar is off. Even the statement you're making is wrong. It should be "Please point out what I got wrong" or "Please tell me what I got wrong". (English is a bastard language)
>>13203615>>13203643https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Rp7UPbhErE
the numbers won't stop going up for both Subaru and Pekora
>>13203752Where'd Jun's 300k viewers go?
>>13203803Unfortunately the MiKomet collab is split POV so I don't think that is possible.
>>13203640The small brains of the bugmen prevent them from comprehending how elevators work and that kicking open the door of one doesn't make the cart come up any faster
>>13203808*miComet
>>13203811Pekora doesn't even want Kuzuha to get his silvers lmao.
>>13203820true, unless miComet started having sex on stream I don't think they are beating Pekora today
10 minutes for Pekora to reach peak before the Miko' stream start.
>>13203775what? this is a recurring thing? is this some viral meme go wrong or something?
Imagine this fucking day if Haachama hadn't gone full retard and shilled her guests. I still kneel to her for hard dunking on Festival though.
Well, it stalled a bit at 81K
>>13203752>DHC MOGGEDDHC MOGGED>DHC MOGGEDDHC MOGGED>DHC MOGGEDDHC MOGGED>DHC MOGGEDhow do we save them bros?
>>13203752K-king...
Hal's Customs has reclined hard
>>13203752King sama dont look!!!
>>13203778Talents have said before that Pekora only collabs when she feels like it and with whoever is available at a moments notice.
>>13203875So much for emperor lmao
>>13203850I don't know why but for some reason it's surprisingly common.Unioncially >>13203838 might actually be possible
>>13203850Well, it's faster than the escalator
I think we can win this Nijibros.Kuzuha just has to play Apex on a deserted island while singing King.
Can subaru beat King?
holo should keep using mc mods even if they are simple like this one
>>13203875This fking leech ahahaha! Once apex dies hes fuck.
>>13203928Does extra permission needed when doing MC Mods?
>>13203921even that wouldn't be enough. better play among us with celebrities on the side as well
>>13203921Fucking kek, i spilled my drink
What are the japanese saying about today?
>>13203875It's highly dependent on members each week newfag
Look like 82k is their peak today
>>13203928Or do a dedicated server for rlcraft.
>>13203943Yes, Pekora has been talking about doignthis for awhile but only got permissiosn recently
>>13203891I'm curious about this. Do we say that this collab is officially beaten if she got 98K+ viewers or if she got 131+ viewers on a one-on-one collab?
>>13203921While dressed as Sanya.
>>13203961So he is basically a leech.
>>13203960I'm actually curious how they reacted to this and the aqua 3d.
>>13203921*with a johnny's idol on kuzuha's day
>>13203921holy kek
>>13203928its not the mod, it is pekomarine
So number for miComet?
>>13203992Nothing surprise, remember Mel Halloween.
>>13203967I seeMan, I can already imagine next year's SportFes with MC Mods in play
>Pekora>Rushia>Marine (basically a blend of the 2 above)What went so right with Gen 3?
>>13204009And the Johnny's idol should not have his POV up.
Miko Suisei is startingLet's see if views will drop or not
>>1320402430k for each
>>13204012>its not the mod, it is pekomarineinb4 every other chuuba starts going to this mod as well thinking it's the mod
>>13203891Imagine if this stream get shill like the PekoMoona
>>13204039Peko and noel is pretty good aswell.
>>13203823Ty, now i can schizo post more proficiently
>>13204039Literally voodoo magic.It's like this gen got 3 ssr and 2 ss
Even subaru getting higher number than usualI would say it is the effect of sport fes bringing in lots of peopleNumbers for the last week is unusual
>>13203917lol they're so retarded
>>13204012I know anon, but seeing them doing something different in MC also brings new/more people, there are good mods out there they just need to use them and they will incline like there's no tomorrow
>>13204048It'll definitely drop unless Subaru ends her stream now. Fubuki already ended hers.
>>1320402440k combined, 30k if we're being realists
Top of the hour just hit.
This seems like a long stream. They might choke Micomet's possible funnel.
>>13204057The mod is novel for many holowatchers no doubt, but it's also Pekomari. Both are at play here, and the fact that it's 1-frame too.
>>13204118>>13204050These numbers will only be possible if Pekora ends early.Pekora is still holding 80k right now. only 2k left her stream as MiComet starts
They seem to be wrapping up?
For reference, how advance was the announcement of Pekomoona collab? It feels like Pekomarine could've gotten even higher if this was a day in advance.
>>13204039yagoo made a deal with the debiru, but that debiru was way too nice
enter moonahttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DozD74bfhSkMicomet delayed again?
It's rather funny how HoloJP always has bigger numbers and VODs while HoloEN has much lower despite the fact that English is the 3rd most spoken language in the world.
Subaru is done, miComet is starting.
Pekora: will still hold around 70k i guessMiko: 28kSuisei: 14k*assuming Subaru ends early
>>13203889Because she prefer to do everything by herself. No need for collab, just focusing on your own viewerbaseShe now got a very loyal viewerbase who watch anything with her on it me included
>>13204072Pure blind luck, honestly. Perfect timing, perfect designs, perfect talents. Sankisei is the perfect fucking storm, it's insane. Pekora and Noel can be accounted for for being previously successful but Rushia and Marine are like catching two bolts of lightning in a bottle. Flare holds her own with her gachikoi paypiggies too so honestly its like the stars fucking aligned for them.
>>13204200>i will give you fame, family and success!>but in return the girls will bully you as if they were your real daughters>ojou laugh
Droped to 76k
>SUS
>>13204275Miko started so that makes sense.
So basically, Hololive has Gen 3 as their golden gen, doesn't this seem similar to Nijisanji where the top belongs to a select few and the rest has much lower performance?
>>13204294>top 5 has 3 3rd gen.Golden generation I kneel.
>>13204294Aqua is really reclining hard...
>>13204201Moona won't affect them
>>13204294Rushia was 80k iirc.
>>13204294Damn! My wife Lamy is still currently this month's ranked 1
>>13204203>English is the 3rd most spoken language in the world>Biggest english streamer xQc can't even beat 900k subs Jun who speaks japanese
>>13204315>the rest has much lower performance???
>>13204294fun fact, marine was in all the streams in the top 4
>>13204327
>>13204294>Pekora/Marine meme streams vs big events
This stream is perfect for Pekora to widened the gap with Miko in watch hours.
>>13204294>79597>69669>49804those numbers make me seethe
>>13204337https://twitchtracker.com/channels/peak-viewers
>>13204337And he can't beat some Indian streamers. Dumbass.
>>13204315It’s not just that. Niji has not done a great job developing new talents. Even after gen 3 coco became a top talent, and obviously Myth did well. Even with aloe kneecapping them gen5 has had success. Who in the last year has broken out in Niji?
>>13204337https://playboard.co/en/channel/UCFAiFyGs6oDiF1Nf-rRJpZA
>>13204385Did a stream ever got exact numbers? like exactly 30000 or 40000?
>>13204337xQc just spams huge streamed hours (something like hal), hes not the one with the highest ccv
>>13204315Look 2 posts above you, first one isn't even gen3.Meanwhile in manjisanji...
>>13204294Didn't Rushia easily beats 80k
>>13204329That's a normal number. 3Dlive + announcement., not a birthday or anniversary one
>>13204397>Who in the last year has broken out in Niji?If you stretch "last year" to "2020"
>>13204384Miko was basically 3 of her regular streams behind Pekora before today. The only thing that could have helped Miko is if Pekora had a longer break.
>>13204438
>>13204337funny how having everyone that speaks the language be in one timezone affects stream numbers
>>13204397Fuwa and Ibrahim are the only ones who debuted after 2020 that have really contributed much of anything. Even then they do ok. I would hardly call them superstars.
>>13204460pajeet is back to shit numbers again
>>13204458It also got dropped out of nowhere as well, pretty abruptly.
>>13204438>>13204480Very telling
Pekora/Marine are bleeding viewership to Miko/Suisei. They have lost over 10k now.miComet domination
>>13204458She announced it like 12 hours before it happened. Literally a big announcement out of nowhere that took her by surprise too.
>>13204460I wouldn’t consider Feb 2020 within the last year no. And he’s Polka/Kiara tier, which is fine, but if that’s considered a breakout star then that’s sort of damning with faint praise isn’t it? Fauna has a better median of peaks than he does.
>>13204533Botan also started.Peko/Marine will still hold 70k though i guess
>>13204566>Fauna has a better median of peaks than he does.ANON, NOYOU WILL SUMMON THE FAUNA SCHIZO
>>13204586Please stop glorifying the thread schizos, it jsut encourages them
Enter shiraken.
>>13204450she did but that web peaks are shit
>>13204586SHE FUCKING SUCKS
Did someone pose this before?Full chart of 10-mil holosongs:KING (cover) - Gawr Gura & Mori Calliope (58 Days 9 Hours 46 Minutes)REFLECT (original) - Gawr Gura (90 Days 3 Hours 29 Minutes 54 Seconds)RIP (original) - Mori Calliope (99 Days 19 Hours 4 Minutes)Ochame Kinou (cover) - Hololive (116 Days 2 hours 10 Minutes)Goodbye Sengen (cover) - Nakiri Ayame (116 Days 21 Hours 11 Minutes)Can You Do The Hololive? (Beyond The Stage Version) (original) - Hololive (127 days 3 Hours 0 Minutes)GETCHA! (cover) - Hoshimachi Suisei & Mori Calliope (149 Days 1 Hour 30 Minutes)GHOST (original) - Hoshimachi Suisei (217 Days 22 Hours 52 Minutes) NEWDead Beats (original) - Mori Calliope (332 Days 7 Hours 8 Minutes)Ahoy!! (original) - Houshou Marine (339 Days 20 Hours 27 Minutes)Saga Jihen (cover) - Hoshimachi Suisei & Hololive Fantasy (355 days 22 Hours 5 Minutes)Discommunication Alien (cover) - Usada Pekora (378 days 1 Hour 12 Minutes)Next Color Planet (original) - Hoshimachi Suisei (517 Days 22 Hour 23 Minutes)Dadadada Tenshi (cover) - Minato Aqua (599 Days 19 Hours 14 Minutes)7 originals, 7 coversOnce again 50/50
>>13204586Why even acknowledge his pathetic existence? Stop giving these schizos attention ffs.
>>13204614this
the PekoMari stream has had a lot of clippable moments, expect the algorithm to suggest you a bunch of clips from this stream tomorrow
>>13204397>gen 5 has success>their top performer Botan can't even break 5k right now during prime timeHahahahaha
Is Miko planning another event? The Sports Fes was fun but there was no cross-branch VC so it kinda dampened the interaction a bit. I want something like Summer Fes where JP, EN and ID can VC each other.
>>13204624I think HoloEN suck
>>13204641tomorrow? you mean in a couple of hours
>>13204659Someone should do another amogus event due to the update desu.
>>13204634I want the HoloEN zhang schizo to look at this. HoloEN is too fucking powerful. Look at that speed.
>>13204652Interestingly enough it would be the second most watched stream right now on Nijisanji, trailing only the Prince
>>132046348 originals 7 covers soon https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLak0dxBKpM
>>13204672About to get 4 more Mori songs on that list in the near future too.
>>13204659long ago she planned a cultural festival, like the one in the sol animes but I don't know what happened with that
>>13204677Seems like most nijifags were watching the ROF-MAO premiere.32k peak for their new go-karting ep.>But it's a premiere
>>13204634>Goodbye Sengen (cover) - Nakiri Ayame (116 Days 21 Hours 11 Minutes)It's hard work that pays off at the end, why can't Watame learn from Ayame?
>>13204677That only means Nijisanji is as much of a failure as gen 5 is, seems pretty reasonable.
>>13204566It's one of Nijisanji's issues wrt numbers. An unfortunate thing too to consider, is that numbers beget numbers, casuals like to just follow the 'hottest thing's, and it's clear that Niji isn't the biggest game in town anymore. That makes it even harder for them to cultivate new breakout stars, and none of their international branches have had the major success to catapult them into the eyes of the international viewers. I'm gonna borrow some points from the schizos and point to Gura's subcount and popularity. I'd you were some casual and you heard this agency has the most subbed vtuber in it, what would you think? Would you, perhaps, take a look to see what's all the fuss about even if you're Japanese? What's this? There's 30+ Japanese chubbas from the same company? Oops, you're now a Hololive watcher and have your recommends swamped with Gura clips and meme clips and songs and oops now you're watching Marine every time she streams. Outside of their summer baseball, Nijisanji has no casual viewer funnel. It's bad for long-term prospects, because any causla viewers that are new just end up being sucked away by Hololive.
>>13204672Not the schizo, but what is the significance of song metrics when it comes to a streamer? Would it help in anyway similar to having Most hours watched?
>>13204672Bots
>>13204710Punches targeting at the crotch like this one should be illegal.
>>13204634Wonder how many originals can keep up with covers? Mori and Suisei's "old" songs are about to use up.
>>13204652Gen5 Schizo, just in case you didn't know, PekoMari and MiComet are streaming and they're holding 100k. Only Botan's loyal followers are watchign her right now.
>>13204634>>13204672Still can't beat him
>>13204726Considering how much of a music focus Hololive has I would say its pretty fucking important. Music is a big BIG part of the Hololive experience.
>>13204726The more popular you are the faster your music views grows, anyone trying to pretend it isn't related at all is just coping at all the mogging HoloEN is dealing out to the nips at their own game.
>>13204671Ollie wanted to organize HoloEN, HoloID and Holostars Amogus.
>>13204710Stop anon. Now the Watamefags are gonna have to give their girl another 10k yen.
>>13204726Song metric matters for Vtubers that are more focused on idol stuff like Suisei and Mori. Also big song vods create more chance of tourists.
>>13204755Gross, at least she has the sense to keep JP out of it
>SCHIZOS, DON'T LOOK!
>>13204721>I'd you were some casual and you heard this agency has the most subbed vtuber in it, what would you think?ThisI know people like to say subs are not important, but it absolutely is for normal people out there, which is ... The majority
>>13204740>gen 5 is not popular and people would rather choose to watch other holos when given the choiceYes, we already knew that. HoloMyth would easily get their usual 10k-20k even under the same circumstances.
>>13204751Aside from Kiara and Mori, I don't think HoloEN cares for music at all.
>>13204742He is a Malaysian, also an anti-chink.
>>13204726>when it comes to a streamerStreaming isn't the only thing they do, music is a big part of Hololive.
>>13204742>30M in 1 month
>>13204779They would think of Kizuna Ai intsead, kek
>>13204779Subs are important for discoverability (much like being the #1 most superchatted in the world did for Coco for a while).With that said, Hololive perfected the "rabbit hole" model of luring people in with such gimmicks and then spreading them around through the talent.
>>13204781>Holomyth>10-20k? When was the last time someone other than Gura reached 20k with a normal stream?
>>13204755I can see only Mori and Bae joining
>>13204787Doesn't stop their music from doing leagues better than the nips. Gura shits all over them despite not caring about music at all, it's an indicator of popularity not effort.
I think both Miko and Suisei are planning a school festival now. How would this event fare in the grand scheme of things?
>>13204755I guess Ollie, Bae, Mori, Kiara, Risu and Iofi are assured.Gura, Kronii, Mumei, Fauna should stay away just to avoid hate since many of their fans won't like it.
what if the gen 5 schizo is a 2-view literal who that is salty as fuck
>>13204779Gura is doing her job of baiting people in. Even if half of her sub count don't look at other girls, the other half that does is still massive.Also, I feel like Gura doesn't really want the position of being the face of EN vtubing. She'd probably be happier if some newcomer overtakes her.
Oh no no no PekoMarine is under 70k now
Gen 3 collab on sunday btwpredictions?
>>13204880&IRyS
>>13204880did kiara collabed with a homo before?
>>13204755ew
>>13204830Any 10k HoloEN stream is basically already at 20k if you correct for viewership culling.
>>13204721>Outside of their summer baseball, Nijisanji has no casual viewer funnel.>Forgetting Niji 3D debuts are tourist centralThis whole post reeks of newfaggotry. If we're talking about live CCV, JP's audience at night is far bigger than any EN audience at a given moment. Nijisanji doesn't need more exposure and advertising locally. They're basically mainstream already. The number of people who laid eyes on Edengumi's streams in week 1 rival, if not exceed, the numbers for Council. You can check the VOD views.JOP casuals are very familiar with Nijisanji, but choose not to watch them daily. It's an entirely different issue from what you're describing.
>>13204914Those fuckers need to wrap it up so they can funnel those viewers to miComet.
>>13204755indog leech, you should focus on ID+EN MK for now
>>13204880Gura is too shy. Also, I think she hates Among Us. She would avoid this if she can.
>>13204830Mumei's Karaoke 6 days ago
https://twitter.com/wstcg/status/1461213769225306114Second print run of the cards, how fast will it sell?
>>13204942Whatever you tell yourself to cope
>>13204755Sounds like nothing but wishful thinking. Collabs are supposed to be about>who wants to joinand not>who should be in it
>>13204458for reference, suzy's live announcement did not even hit 40k
>>13204721As I said, Nijisanji couldn't do nothing but watch as their numbers go further down despite streaming every day. The algo ain't helping them get numbers or new viewers, clips or shorts does. I wouldn't doubt that Holos doing all these funneling every day had helped the algo decide what the viewers wants to watch and that's why viewers keeps getting funneled to Holo streams after one finished.The next problem would be the raid system that's gonna be implemented soon. It's the next "pre-dec culling" event that could distort real numbers even further. I would assume Nijis are going to use it as soon as it comes out.
>>13204821unironically nobody knows who Kizuna Ai is in the current age
>>13204943>JOP casuals are very familiar with Nijisanji, but choose not to watch them daily.Please stop defending Nijisanji, you're making them look even worse
>>13202101 "Godchammers". Way to make yourself sound terrible.