/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

To have fun? Yes, and she is. Why are you mad that she's having fun?

Are they all going to start sticking dildos in their holes on chaturbate?

>>13042507
are the people she used to collab with outside of holo off limits now?

>>13042507
Imagine choosing this over Holo members

>>13042613
Yes. This is the next evolution of vtubing.

>>13042507
>m*le

>>13042507
great pic of DMJ's harem

I love Ribbon

>>13042734
>choosing

>>13042873
wait...

I bet she's feeling regret right now, shouldn't have left after all huh

>>13042507
Based boomer tastes.

>>13042507
Kson-sama, I kneel...

>>13042507
She’s so lame

So, this is what she meant by creative freedom.

>>13042734
>choosing

Anon... Coco can not collab with Holo several months before she announce graduate.

We have hope that Coco finally can collab with other Hololive members normally again but end up when she announce graduation.

> AmeCoCo
> Orange Sister
> InaDragon
> CoMori
This is was stolen from us.
In this matter, FUCK OMEGA

>>13042734
Seems like an upgrade

More like she's a leech who has no choice but to collab with non corpo tubers, cause she's total poison to any of the big corps.

>>13043021
Do people here not watch streams she collab with holo about a week ago.

You guys have really reached the point where Kson is a Kiara for you and you're shitting on her for totally innocuous things, just sad

>>13043123
> singlehandly help indie vtuber industry
> Saviourfag like her ex boss Yagoo.

Coco told us about she want to make Yagoo pround. Yagoo is grand saviourfag himself. I think she did right thing.

She gave attention to indie Vtuber industry.

Yes, this is creativity

why is no holo girls with her ? kson please u are still hololive in heart

>>13043336
They are not Holo doxxfaggot!
Think about NDA and their's contract!

>>13043399
> some Hololive members want to graduate after Coco
> Coco talk to them personnally and prevent that.

Ichimin and Haatons should thank Coco for this. Even death she still serve.

>>13043336
spoonfeed me please

>>13042507
>left her loving friends just to go collab with people that management wouldnt allow her to
its gonna catch up to her eventually. shes gonna collab with everyone she desires to then remembers she cant join in on her friends fun anymore.

>>13043528
what tha means ? i want kson play with hololive again

>>13043539
These ARE her friends now, anon. She's having her own new adventures.

>>13043582
This is fucking fact,

>They can not and never can

Hololive not exist in Kson's universe because NDA.

>>13042507
With the exception of pikamee, you can lump all of those together, they aren't worth a single holomem

>>13043711
> Taishi

This dude is legendary live translator in Hololive fandom.

Respect him

>>13042507
her whole thing was leeching from other people after all

La libertad creativa...

i want to impregnate kson

>>13042613
I want to hear Pikamee's orgasm noises

>>13043530
https://youtu.be/R-yeKueb4mw
Sound familiar huh?

>>13043539
oh noooooooo, I can't hang out with my friends with thousands of people watching me?
we have to have the comfort of privacy when we interact? oh nyooooooooooooo

>>13044174
>>13044168
Your point? Managers can't touch room

>>13044119

>>13042507
>>13043123
>>13043956
>cre...creative freedom
why are the ching chongs so obsessed with this? is it the new ¨shame on you¨?
they have been saying it for months and don't seem to want to understand what it means.

these are her real friends, you can cope Holoniggers

>>13043867
Nice cope, chang

>>13042507
>no need to worry about pandering to shitty unicorns
>unrestricted collabs with friends
Unironically better content than what she did in her previous life.

>>13042507
Seethe all you want Ksonfags but Coco had a much more better group of friends before this and yes I know I'm in the minority so suck my balls faggots

>>13042507
Never change, you bitch

>>13042507
I feel bad for her

>>13044168
Who is the Ame clone?

>>13045123
Its funny

>>13043539
You can hang out with your friends all you want without streaming with them. Not that Kson hasn't streamed with those friends anyway.

>>13042985
aging is a bitch

>>13044168
>Hololive members will just use their roommates to collab with K-son
ENs got to do this as well or are they afraid of omegatranny

>>13046923
games for this feel?

>>13046923

>>13046923
Samurais fought each other over faces like this

>>13046923
See you in two weeks anon.

>>13047639
is this even ban worthy? she streams with her real face on her own channel so it's not like it's a secret or something

>>13042734
Stop talking about your black company.

>>13042507
I fucking love this bitch.

>>13047585
Of course

>>13046923
Oh nono kson face reveal

>>13043396
No, she said she wanted to make something bigger and greater than Yagoo, killing Hololive in the process of course.

>>13043698
Kanata exists in her walls tho.

>they are still seething even after all this time

>>13046923
she's not a real vtuber, she's a failure without Hololive and friends, the chinese were unironically right about her

>>13045987
guutara/choco

>>13047718
He not the first one that posted this and got banned.

>>13043336

She's got good friends, still. And apparently the trio are going to collab again.

Unity between who?

>>13048420
How you gonna be a 3dpd and vtuber on the same channel?
That is just weird. What's the point of having an avatar then?

>>13048663
She said both of them without mention killing Hololive

>>13048736
That why she must privated this vid

>>13049434
It already exist before kson so please do some basic research before posting next time?

>>13042507
MAHA5JP.. UOOOHHH GOTTA SAAAVVEEE

>>13048941
Go back to NGA, chink.

All those lost souls in the sea random vtubers... But Kson broke her shackles from evil corporation that hold her back and is now free to unite all these suffering and lost vtubers. She is the saviour who will grace these lowly people with her mercy and lead them to promised land.

>>13043442
and K-son was never coco right?
how retarded can you be

>>13042507

Her creative freedom is being able to create whatever she wants, when she wants. Comfy stuff, wacky stuff, stuff in between. And she doesn't have to share any of her *monthly* ~$140K take with Hololive.

She's a rich bitch who's having fun, and schizos and communists can't do much to stop her anymore.

That's freedom, too.

>NOOOOOOOOO HOW COULD YOU DISLIKE THE GODDESS OF VTUBING NAMED KSON YOU FILTHY ZHANG
You really thought /vt/ was your little hugbox, right? Kson is praised literally everywhere on the Internet, I don't get the militant and defiant behavior here.

>>13049785
Ogey zhang

>>13049574
Like who, Tamaki?
They play different characters like proper schizos.
Kson's avatar is also supposed herself though? Yeah I know others do part time vtubing, but why? What's the point?

>>13049758
>communists
You are the communists, dumb VShitters

>>13049879
>Kson's avatar is also supposed herself though?
Kson is kumichou and her avatar is souchou, different characters.

>>13049879
Herself? Like what?

>>13049879
So is kson, there are 3 characters in the channel. Kumichou, daikou and Souchou/Sonchou.
Please watch streams before posting.

>>13044278
Underrated post

>>13042507
Why didn't she save the homos?

>>13043204
Gura...

>>13043539
Kek holomems still stay over at her house from time to time anon don't worry about that

>>13049758
>leaves to be creative
>cover wouldn't let her upload "yabai" videos on her channel
>goes indie
>doesn't upload "yabai" content on her channel
>fears getting demonetized, doesn't have a direct contact with YT to clear misunderstandings

>>13052159
Everything in due time homobeggar, worry not.

>>13052159
>>13053152
I legitimately look forward to her one day appearing on Izakaya ARN or Bar ROBEL. Even if it never happens, I will continue to look forward to it.

>>13053058
Again another faggot that doesn't watch stream.

>>13049879
>>13049434
She explains that she has the model for days she doesn't want to use make up, karaoke or collabing with a vtuber

>>13056273
Good job bumping the thread after 2 hours, retard...

>>13042507
She just didn't want to give 33% to holo anymore. Obviously that's so much cash.
Same reason why Lulu was afraid of stalker but 2 weeks later she was streaming with facecam

>>13044168
kek

>>13057159
Kson also lost major of her fan as well anon. They are not 100% follow to Kson.

Lulu hate Niji about she must break every 3 weeks because stalker but not fear stalker. It's difference

Threadly reminder that coco won.

Instead of being de person-ed and fired on the spot for daring to mention taiwan, she instead got to resign on favorable terms, have 3 weeks to do whatever she wanted and collab with who ever she wanted, and held one of the most successful lives in hololives existence raking in over 3 million yen, and being watched by hundreds of thousands of people.

Then she reincarnated as her roommate, commissioned a rig from her old papa, and had it rigged by a goddess of rigging, and grew her old room mate channel from like 300k to a million in roughly 4 months, all while being untouchable by chink spam due to youtube filters.

And this makes the bugs seethe so hard its un real. Its why we have daily threads like these, so we can laugh at them.

>>13057159
Lulu got tired of having to go on break, which obviously Nakiricucks would never understand that there are people that want to stream regularly

>>13042613
God I hope so

>>13042507
Tomari Mari is BASED

>>13046431
Heh. That apex collab with those voices.

>>13057275
BASEDryu BASEDco aka BASEDson on BASED

>>13046923
>>13047494
la creatura

>Fought for her friends and coworkers
>Stuck to her beliefs until the end even under harassement of bugmen
>Said enough when she thought she was treated unfairly by corpo.
>Hit 1M subs again as an indie, showing you can bounce back after being a corpo.
>Found a way to collab with her friends from corpo PL and having fun with new friends.
>Harassement online against her is now basically almost non-existant
>Bug backstabber that kickstarted her harassement campaign graduated and is gone forever.
You guys can keep spamming "creative freedom" and "e-thot" all you want, that bitch won and will keep winning. And you know it.

>>13042507
Wait.. since when did she friend with Tomari?

>>13042507
maggot emperor is the main reason why we can't watch holy emperor aqua anymore.
locust evil cultivator will suck the life force of everyone she touch.

>>13058027
Trying too hard with that zhang larp there buddy.

>>13058005
https://youtu.be/-rOkAXexLRE
since yesterday

>>13043391
I shit on her for still being a facecam thot on the same channel she's a vtuber on.

>>13046513
If this means S*ch* gets revived I'm for it.

>>13058005
>>13058052
Tomari was an old fan
https://youtu.be/MIX9qADZFII

>>13043204
She's collabing with other holos just fine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-yeKueb4mw
lol
lmao

>>13058920
Not Holo doxfaggot
Think about NDA and contract

>>13046513
Coco, Lulu and Otogibara Era are all demonstrating that it is possible to continue after graduation.
Kson is making sure everyone has alt personalities to fall back on in case they have to leave their org.

>>13049758
Why do you act as thought hololive is a leech or something?

>>13056273
>she has the model for days she doesn't want to use make up
E-thots truly do think alike, don't they

>>13056273
Why did you bump this trash thread? Kill yourself

>>13059338
That's a horrible comparison. This bitch just jump into vtuber hype and brought a cheap model just to not use it after debut.
Do some logical thinking and research before posting retard.

You holofags there so fucking insecure, why though?
Are you afraid of this bitch or something?

>>13059235
It literally is

>>13059386
Pokimane just did it for one day. Kson vtubed as a fulltime career. Big difference.

>>13057990
>>13057275
i love this bitch

>>13044119
She makes those noises of inhaling through your teeth like when you cringe from stubbing your toe.

>>13044168
Is that Choco I’m hearing?

>>13059877
And Mel.

>>13059475
How do you figure that?
If she hadn't joined hololive she'd still be cosplaying to 120 people and wouldn't have even a 10th of the money she is making.

>>13060148
Won't that apply to Hololive too? Without Gen 3 or 4 (Bunch of Niconico streamers), Hololive will be still leeching with Niji and Indies.

>>13057275
>>13057990

what a based timeline

>>13060148
If she hadn't jointed hololive, hololive still would struggle in the fight for power against Niji.

>>13058920
Other vtubers portrayed by the same real life person as a holo are not holos, anon.

>>13060237
What kind of dumb argument is that? Hololive is the one hiring and taking the risk. It provides, managers, staff, negotiating on big deals for sponsors, models for free and pays a salary whether you have a million subs or 10.
Why are you claiming hololive is a leech when it made her famous by bringing her to a bigger audience?
>>13060419
This is some extreme levels of cope. Gen 3? Gamers? Both of whom were much more popular among world wide fans than niji was or is now.

>>13046513
the only EN with active roommate is Ina atm and
>Ina
>collabing with Coco
lol

>>13060587
Ask me how i know you started watching hololive probably mid/late 2020

>>13060587
Stop replying to the falseflagging chink.
Posts like this >>13060419 should clue you in that you're wasting your time.

>>13057990

>>13060587
This argument you two are having is retarded but back then they weren't. Their time came later.

I never seen a reasonable or smart person hype up this whore.
It's all the most frog and wojak spamming lowlives that seem to obsess over her and invent artifical enemies out of thin air to justify their creepy fanatism with a shitty streamer who can't even keep the easiest job alive.

>>13060974
I have never seen a legitimate criticism of Coco/kson, probably because it doesn't exist.
Now continue seething

>>13060974
Because /vt/ don't watch streams or do some basic research, they just pick up slangs from schizo here.

>>13060761
You're right.

>>13042507
Pikamee is the only good one there

>>13057990
>>13057275
Yeah all this is cool and all
but why does she need Google translate for her utawakus?
https://youtu.be/D6x1LfST-Ms

>>13061450
She's only pretending to understand English.
Like Jackie Chan, she is simply reading out the syllables. No clue what they mean.

>>13061450
It's a singing collab with shitty translator-Kun

>>13061450
Autotranslate-kun is one of the characters who exist in the Ksonverse. The archenemy of Taishi.

>>13042507
>unity/savior chad
Maybe
>la creatividad
Never been

>>13060637
That bitch.

>>13061450
why not?

>>13046923
>That kanata poster

>>13042734
>make 40% more money
>can do the shit you wanted to do and no manager can stop you
>don't have to do idolshit
>haven't been blacklisted from hololive anyway she just doesn't want retard chinks to fuck with her friends
yeah, real hard to live with

>gets to build gundams on stream
>gets to play whatever games she wants even if they're ~Problematic~
>Can collab with whoever she likes, doing based things like inviting Taishi
>makes more money
>kept all her friends and even the same artist

stay mad zhang

Has she showed off any of those cool creative ideas that Hololive management wouldn't let her do yet or has it just been slutty cosplay titty streaming and camgirl collabs so far?

>>13067017
Watch her stream anon.
She already did it in some degrees

>>13060587
>This is some extreme levels of cope. Gen 3? Gamers? Both of whom were much more popular among world wide fans than niji was or is now.
100% you are a newfag who watched hololive on mid/late 2020s. gen 3s, gamers except fubuki where literally whos before Coco joined. All of them were boosted by Asacoco

>>13066259
>>haven't been blacklisted from hololive anyway
I'm kinda curious about this one honestly with the way she collabed with Mel and Choco.

>>13067562
I don't really pay attention to the JP stuff.
She collab'd with holos after leaving?

>>13067772
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-yeKueb4mw

She did, however they were on roommate accounts.

>>13068103
I am surprised cover allows roommate accounts.
You'd think they'd be more aggressive in keeping control of their talent.

>>13068973
World likely not be enforcable or even a rights violation. BTW non-compete clauses are also not enforceable in Japan from what I've heard.

>>13069338
Creative property/intellectual property ones are.
It wouldn't be hard for Cover to thus lay claim to all creative output of their talents.

I guess Yagoo is just a softy at heart.

>>13069489
>It wouldn't be hard for Cover to thus lay claim to all creative output of their talents.
How so? Cover don't own shit in regards to any of their roommate accounts and have no right to dictate what they can and can't do when they aren't acting as their Hololive self.

>>13069489
>>13070191
Yeah I'd also think this is a bit too far reaching into stuff that isn't Cover IP.
Probably also depends on whether we are talking "I will not renew your contract" or "I will sue you" territory

But enough playing Internet Lawyer for me.

>>13070569
>Probably also depends on whether we are talking "I will not renew your contract" or "I will sue you" territory
I feel like the most they could do is just a case of it's either one or the other, which in the case of some of them they are likely earning more money doing their roommate shit than they are in Hololive, so it would be interesting to see how that played out.

>>13070191
>>13070569
It's actually not that unusual for companies to lay claim to all intellectual property or creative property you generate if you're working for them in that capacity.

Lot of American companies do it in both capacities. Google, Facebook, etc lay claim to any technological IP generated by their employees even when they're off the clock and even if its their own private project. Enforcement of that is only complicated by the need to prove it was made while they worked for the company in question.
In the UK you got Dyson who are extremely aggressive and manipulative on that front and have sued multiple employees in the past for trying to monetise their own ideas.

American entertainment companies do it all the time with their talent. Anything and everything the talent produces is their property even if they're doing it under a different stage name/persona.
Now I know Cover is Japanese not American but the laws governing intellectual property rights and so on are basically the same.

Generally speaking they only lay claim to these things though if its relevant to their industry/interests. But company culture also plays a part since some consider it to be a dick move.
Which for Cover you'd think this stuff would be.

>>13070754
One thing is sure, depending on how holomembers value their career in hololive, we might see some graduation next year and it will only depend on how cover handle roommate situation and how anal it will be about it.
The fanbase factor is also a thing to consider, as holofags are so fucking insular and control hungry they might turn on members with roommates.

>>13049758
>Hololive loses 40k dollars free money after letting the dragon go
>Literally one member can pay for events, employee salaries, technology, etc
There should be a manager's head on a pike outside Yagoo's office.

>>13070937
>Sponsors came back with a raging boner because all of them bow to chinks

You forgot that one. As much as I love Coco she was just getting in the way of big sponsors since most companies suck chink cock for dinner and it always has been sponsors>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SC

>>13071036
Very much this unfortunately.
While in Japan theres a certain "rah rah fuck china" sentiment you can rely on.
There's still a lot of international companies in Japan who are salivating at the thought of being allowed into the China market.
They won't touch Cover and are more than happy to be the CCPs little attack dogs if it gets them a sniff of the China market.

>>13042507
>-son is a unity/savior chad,
No she isn't.

>>13046513
Imagine Kson streaming with Devilcube and Piequeen.

>>13070937
The people above Yagoo are the ones who ordered her to get thrown under the bus to try and save their Chinese business interests. That's the genesis of her deciding to eventually leave. The heavy content restrictions were just an additional reason, and unlikely to be the call of one manager anyway.

>>13071085
Japan's current PM is currently incentivising companies to get out of China, as its market is a shitshow right now.

>>13044168
Nice, triple chaturbate collab and this time it will actually be 18+

>>13077128
Yeah but that is mainly affecting companies whose primary focus is the Japanese market.
The internationals especially the media ones are heavily americanised and can only salivate at the thought of selling stuff to the chinks.

>>13076978
What exactly is the corporate structure of Cover anyways?
Isn't Yagoo the founder and primary owner?

>>13058920
literally who

>>13070896
>The fanbase factor is also a thing to consider, as holofags are so fucking insular and control hungry they might turn on members with roommates.
Anon, with how fast Kson has grown, that's a really dumb thing to say. She left and clearly took her fans with her, I doubt it would be different for anyone else. I suspect there are few fans who are genuinely loyal to "hololive", rather than loyal to talents that they discovered while they are working for hololive, and if enough of their favorites leave, the fans will too.

>>13077963
This, if my Holo oshi were to leave I would leave with her, that's why the word oshi applies to only one.

>>13077963
>>13078401
if they were loyal to their oshi and her wishes you and your netizens wouldn't shit on kson, their friend and supporter, yet here we are, in the
>let's shit on kson thread

>>13042734
Exactly. She made Botan cry just to become this.

>>13057990
>>13057275
Are those "Zhangs" in the room with us right now?

>>13080871
>gokseifag
>opinion
honestly i have more respect for nijifags

>>13059091
>doxx doxx DOOOOOXXX
Where in that fucking stream are their real names and addressees? Holobrony faggots are braindead.

>>13081179
nice "unity" you got there tatsucocksucker. nobody wants your respect

Is this how Satan meant when he meant better to reign in hell than serve in heaven?

>>13058920
Holy shit the blondies.

>>13081313
>unity
I'm a hardcore fandead, but i have more respect for Coco/kson than for anyone left in gokishit.
Reason is, they let Aloe wither doing nothing but cry one time, boohoo bunch of Cover lapdogs, utterly garbage gen with spine so fragile a breeze can snap it. Year later they forgot her existence while Coco/Kson still helps and is in contact with holomembers, if you like it or not.
Actions speak louder than intentions.
Don't you fucking dare to speak about unity.

>>13042613
fuckin kek

>>13081725
Botan specifically mentioned Aloe when talking about Coco's graduation recently. Apparently talking about either pisses her off so much that she refuses to do it.

>>13081566
>Hell
>Still having fun
>Still making a lot of money
>Still a million simps
>Still making a shitton of friends
>No more Zhangs
>No more management retardation
Sure buddy

>>13081956
This and unironically.
I think something may be happened behind the stage and we really not have clues about it.

>>13043314
>leech
every single one of them got monetized after a day of their respective collab, try harder locust

>>13046923
What's the kanata pic on the right?

>>13042734
Succesful bait gj anon chama

>>13059386
She stopped using it because her main audience wanted real titties, not anime ones, and they complained about it enough to make it not worth it for her. But it turns out that if you start as a vtuber and then become an e-thot later, your audience isn't going to bitch as much about it.
There is no difference between Pokimane and KSON other than that one started as a vtuber. If Pokimane had gotten popular as vtuber before becoming an e-thot, she would be just as accepted as KSON. And if KSON got popular as an e-thot before trying to become a vtuber, she would have gotten just as much shit as Pokimane.

>>13049434
Who are you to decide what's weird or not?
She's free to do whatever she likes

>>13085280
Ogey chang

>>13085280
Wrong becauee you think everyone think like bug. Quality and taste of audiences are matter in this regard.

>>13085484
This may come as a surprise to you, but it's entirely possible to hate both e-thots and chinks. I am fully in support of the eradication of both groups.

>>13085280
You're right and I like both of them equally.

>>13085280
>>13085746
Are you pretending to be retarded? Almost all holos used to do cam streams before hololive.
Do you really know so little about what you’re talking about? I know this is /vt/ but your post is youtube comment-tier.

>>13078826
I... never shitted on Kson anon... what the hell are you on about?

>>13081725
You really comparing Coco to a bitch that only streamed 1 time? Do your Aloe reps anon.

>>13042734
Yeah, they're cooler.

realistically, how possible it is to steal Kson' $90000 bed?

>>13086371
Aloe did for Hololive more than that e-thot whore.

>>13056475
>>13059376
I'm 3rd shift you nigs

>>13059338
A bit, it has more to do with age, ethots over 30 see obvious value in a vtuber model
>>13059386
>>13059492
>>13085280
The better comparison is Code Miko, it's another relatively intelligent asian ethot who is past the 30 year mark and mostly streams collabs

>>13059218
>Kson is making sure everyone has alt personalities to fall back on in case they have to leave their org
A fucking great idea.

>>13059218
Perhaps Coco is planning to set up a counter hololive.

>>13093337
Not Hololive but counter middle manager's harrassment and power's abuse. If they do it again, roommate will join force with Kson.

>>13042507
>Leave hololive
>Build an army of underappreciated indies
Hololive has met it's match I'm afraid.