/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>12911882
You still need to pass through a corpo to get that popularity

Your bait threads are so boring

>>12911882
I'm happy for kson but this bitch better not be giving my oshi any ideas about leaving hololive.

>Get a 1Million+ Fanbase by working by corporation
>Create Narrative about "Creative Freedom" and other methods to create sympathy
>Have a month long retirement tour to further hammer the rrats created there
>Push enough people to openly advertise your new identity so you don't have to break NDAs
>Use abundant dog whistles to keep reminding people that you are your previous identity to avoid breaking NDAs
>endlessly recycle the ultra low effort old content to further keep your old lowest common denominator fans there, even if it directly contradicts the narratives created for leaving.
>Pile up tons of dead subs but ensure your paypigs continue to line your wallet as they're very dedicated simps

Yes Very easy to do as an indy.

>>12912048
>Create Narrative about "Creative Freedom" and other methods to create sympathy
You mean her antis?

>>12911882
>Whores herself out to stay relevant

>>12911928
This. She basically used Hololive as a stepping stone and now she's off doing whore shit with Vshitjou. I wonder how her former genmates feel about this considering she made them cry when she left.

>>12912081
If you thought it was about the Chinese then you've been in here far too long.
If you think it was purely about maximizing her profits then you're on the nose.

I fully agree, but you are talking with mouth breathing retsrds who worship hololive. So yeah... You're wasting your time.

>>12911882
Basically like most jobs. If you are goo enough and/or gathered the connections to do your own thing, doing your own thing is an viable option. Given that you have the personality to be your own boss. (Which is the part many fail at)

>>12912131
Kanata probably is laughing her way to the bank as she's been farming clipfags whenever she hints about Coco and it makes her numbers GO UP.

>>12912048
>>Use abundant dog whistles to keep reminding people that you are your previous identity to avoid breaking NDA
Does that include her voice and how she talks?
>>12912131
>I wonder how her former genmates feel about this
Watching Kanata crying felt weird back then, it feels even weirder right now.

>>12911928
fpbp Inb4 chink

< the syjack goes over there tatsunocuck thank you

>>12912181
No, anon, I mean Coco herself never said a damn thing about "creative freedom". You did. Other antis like (you) did, all so you could get angry when it didn't meet your standards of what should be achieved with such freedom.

>>12912081
What? The "creative difference" shit came from herself. Antis were saying that she got bullied out of the company or she was sick of Hololive and just wanted to make more money.

>>12912349
Do you know what creative differences means? It's the same excuse given when bands part ways. It literally just means "we had internal differences that could not be reconciled". It does not literally mean "I want muh creative FREEDOM", especially when the FREEDOM part is what you fags hamper on about the most.

>>12912457
Stop replying to these wannabe chinks from Artia’s discord, you’re wasting your time.

>>12911928
That's the best approach honestly. Build your way up as an indie, get hired in a corpo, build your way up again until you're aware that you're just gonna do as well, possibly better without a corpo, then leave.
Its like setting up your own business from scratch. Doesn't surprise me if she took some Business/Marketing related courses in College.

>>12912457
True but I'll add that she did go on a long rant about all the hoops management makes them have to jump through to get anything different done.

That being said she actually does have some mystery projects she wants to do but she's still not done preparing for them. Shit takes time.

Kson literally just used Hololive as a stepping stone, and her situation is an outlier as her roommate account was already semi-known and her graduation had insane coverage around it.

>>12911882
You don't need anything when you're willing to shake your boobs on camera like she does. That's what twitch thots have been doing for years.

>>12911882

Kson now is Mori in 1-2 years. Now that she has an established and loyal fanbase, how much longer before the reaper realizes she could do WITHOUT Cover taking half her money, or without having to angle with management for every single thing she wants to do?

It wouldn't even surprise me if she's already working on material to drop after her inevitable departure.

>>12911882
She's not the proof but it is possible.
Because it's not a physical job, people act like there's no limit to how hard you could work at it.
It just makes sense to have help.

>>12912861
She doesn’t do that, you’d know if you actually watched her.

>>12911882
>Kson proved that you don't need to be in a corporation to be successful
>She used Hololive to be successful
That's not a proof anon

>>12911928
That's the way to go, assuming you aren't lazy that is

i want a second gastritis stream
the first one was very comfy dayo

ShibuHal is a better example.

>>12912507
>Stop replying to these wannabe chinks from Artia’s discord, you’re wasting your time.
Artia is deader than ded, let it go already.

>>12912048
Why cant you zhangs ever post the exact moment she talks about "creative freedom"?
You are literally inventing things in your head and passing it as proof

>>12911882
More like
>Kson proved that you don't need to be afraid of your corporate overlords, you can dump them to have successful career, fulfilling and stress free. Doing whatever you deem apropriate for content you want to make.
You CAN go indie if you want, especially if you're popular. If your corpo is mistreating you, look for the door.

>>12911882
>If your corpo is mistreating you
Mistreating MY ASS
She is a cam thot . End of story .
inb4 Onlyfans

>>12914852
So mad lol

>Why cant you zhangs ever post the exact moment she talks about "creative freedom"?
>You are literally inventing things in your head and passing it as proof

>>12912131
She just collabed with two holo through their roommates some hours ago.
Unironically are the ones with the strongest rumors of leaving.

>>12911882
I mean sure, just be one of the most popular corpo vtubers for 1 year + and then transition

>>12914940
>Unironically are the ones with the strongest rumors of leaving.
>When one of them is literally made a statement about how she's drastically lowering her roommate activities followed by a holo stream about how she's back to streaming regularly

>>12912131
STAYYYYY MAD

>>12914852
>excluded from large collabs and events
>Cover staff instead banning the list of antis she gave them, they modded few of them instead with resolved of them banning longtime members and after that fact they did nothing to fix it, for two weeks Coco manually unbanned every member, alone.
>rejecting every idea she had for her content, making literally impossible for her to do anything new.
>Hololive main channel forgot about her existence
>zero help with the spam, to the point of fans reminding yt on twiterr about spambots that finally got trough.

>>12915135
B-B-But she had a nice graduation stream! Cover can do no wrong! Just ignore the 6+ months of being thrown to the wolves and pushed to the side.

>>12911882
how come lulu's other account isn't big then

>>12915135
>Inserted herself into a sensitive situation
>Cause a gigantic shit-storm that led to the loss of game perms, sponsorships and god knows how much money
>An entire regional branch graduated
>Why didn't the big Cover meanies help her guys :(
Coco was a dumb impulsive retard who fucked herself over, had she kept out of the situation, NOTHING would have happened, she took a small fire and turning into a roaring blaze.

Everything done to her is precisely what Japan does in a corporation to anyone with to much clout, they isolate you till you leave, the simple that she got the send off that she did is a miracle.

I know you Tatsunokos love to prop her up as some poor little victim, but Coco is to blame for everything that happened to her prior to graduation.
>>12916669
Coco's roommate was the worst kept secret on the planet, Lulu was more private.

>>12915135
latinx friend please do your english reps i cant understand this at all

Kson proved that corporations are good and vtubers need to be saved from themselves before they turn into whores. Unfortunately its too late for kson, but we've learned a valuable lesson.

>>12916688
Holy fuck you can't be this delusional, I really hope you're trolling

>>12916669
Lulu was always smaller, doesn't speak english, and hasn't shown her bare ass on camera.

>>12916742
That happened months ago, do you have nothing else? it's almost as if you're taking 1 unintentional thing that never happened again and pretending it's what her content is all about.
Does her success make you seethe? please continue seething then.

>>12916721
That rrat is deader than your mother

>>12916688
That's right. Never let tatsunokos change the narrative here. Haachama said Taiwan first, and Coco said it a few hours later to take the heat off of Haachama. That was a nice thing to do because Haachama wouldn't have been able to handle that heat, and it sucks that she got harassed off the internet by zhang, but she took that bullet willingly. She's not a victim, she chose to martyr herself.

>>12916688
>>12916909
Where do you newfags even come from? that chink narrative was debunked like 9 months ago when Cover themselves admitted on twitter that it was their fault for not warning her about what happened to Haachama, she didn't even know Haachama said Taiwan.

Damn, sure is nice to see creative freedom means stream with western whores on Chaturbate and join their Minecraft server, BITCH HATE

>>12917015
>believing press releases literally
And you call me the newfag?

>>12917063
>>12912457

At this point i'm sure anyone who unironically posts "creative freedom" is actually braindead.

>>12917113
It's the only explanation Coco gave

>>12917113
>>12917094
Oh and the creative freedom to be a facecam titty streamer and show your ass

God these threads are so pathetic, Artia is dead and she’s never coming back, get over it, you lost.

>>12917144
>>12917146
You are literally too retarded to have an actual conversation with, your brain simply doesn't work.

>>12917202
I don't understand why people here choose to larp as Chinese

>>12917202
Artia isn't just dead though, she's dead and hated by every single vtuber fan in the world as a traitor that got what she deserved.
Imagine having her as an oshi, i would probably kill myself if i was one of these faggots worshiping a dead chink.

>>12917228
Please very smart man WITH ACTUAL FACTUAL BACKING why did she graduate?

>>12917295
She graduated because she got tired of chinks harassing her and her friends.
Why do you care so much? Find something else to obsess over in your sad and pathetic life, this topic is too complicated for someone that doesn't understand what "creative differences" actually means, stick to kids shows.

>>12915058
Anon, don't bring logic into these delusions.

>>12917295
Why does someone need a reason to leave a job? Are you insane? People aren’t slaves that work for a corporation their entire lives.
Japan isn’t China m8, the real world doesn’t work like your communist shithole.

>>12917345
>She graduated because she got tired of chinks harassing her and her friends.
Do you have any source on that? A tweet, clip, timestamp. Anything will do because so far it only seems like you're making up shit with no actual facts to back up your narratives

You'd think all this creative freedom would produce good content

>>12917466
Extremely ironic.

>>12917442
>Why does someone need a reason to leave a job?
Have you ever actually worked a job anon?

kson proved that we should euthanize all Holos after they graduate
it's for the good of society.

>>12917497
Have you? Your question doesn’t make sense. She doesn’t have to justify anything, she can do whatever the fuck she wants.

>>12917536
I'm glad she showed who she really is, she should just join vshojo and get it over with

Reminder that Artia will never come back and you'll stay angry your entire life.
I feel so sad for you, pathetic.

>>12917497
Hate to tell you this anon, but you don’t have to stay at a job just because you have it. You can just leave

>>12912720
I've heard from everywhere that I look that Japanese management/companies are hell, because they're all stuck in the past, and it's weird working with them.

>literally just R18 meme review
Is this it? Is this where I realize I'm actually wasting my time?

>>12917584
Keep crying chink

>>12917584
>she showed who she really is
She's still basically Coco just with the reigns off, I literally don't know what you expected her to be.

>>12917642
Kill yourself western(probably trans) whore.

>>12917679
Imagine being born a chink

>>12917664
>whore
>facecammer
>Vshojo
Contemplate your existence
>>12917711
Average kson "content" defender argument

>>12917584
>>12917679
What a sad life, I feel sorry for your parents for creating you

Taiwan is a country and Chinks are all subhuman

>>12917627
That's not just Japanese companies, anon, but it is more pronounced with them. Japan doesn't like to change their ways based on outside influences even if it's for their own benefit sometimes. Their old, heavily ethnocentric ways still haunt them to this day.

>>12917525
That's a bit extreme, but Yagoo should write a non-compete clause into his contract where his girls agree to never use a live2d again outside of Hololive. They just can't be trusted with them.

>>12912131
>she made them cry when she left.
Cover made her cry so she left

>>12917759
Yours will bury you under your real name.

>>12917758
>whore
Wrong
>facecammer
Retard
>Vshojo
Wrong and also not an insult
Pathetic chink, get better arguments, i can't believe they're paying you to post this garbage.

>>12917758
What were you expecting? I'm still waiting on an answer.

>>12917837
Man, you really need to raise your standards if you think vshojo isn't an insult

>>12917896
I don't give a shit what a chink like you has to say, i'm only here to laugh at you.

>>12917807
Rent free

>>12917837
Literally streamed on a website next to three guys fucking each other, if that doesn't make her a whore what would? And if facecammer isn't a red flag for you you're on the wrong board, anon.

>>12917896
While Vshojo IS an insult, I don't think neither IM and Melody are in the same degree of the rest, and I fucking hate VShojo. IM just needs to drop both Connor and Vshojo, and Melody just to drop the LE EPIC lewd faccete a little bit, she is genuinenly a decent streamer without that shit. Nyanners, Red Bowsette, tranny hair colors, Veibae and the others can go eat dirt and touch grass.

>>12917932
The stream was very wholesome, get a better argument because everyone is laughing at you.

>>12916688
This is exactly why Cover is a garbage company. She can have just as much success doing whatever she wants without all the retardation that comes with Cover's restrictions. The chinks were only a problem because Cover made them one.

>>12917945
Fair point desu

>>12917932
Kson couldn’t be farther from a whore, find a better insult because it makes no sense, it makes you look desperate.

>>12917945
VShojo isn't an insult, it's just a brand. It's like Pepsi vs. Coke but with more autism and sex jokes.

>>12917932
I'm sorry you felt obliged to check out a homo stream while you were there causing you to realize what a faggot you are

ITT: Chinks seething again

>>12918044
They’re always seething, their brains don’t work.

>>12918028
It's like Pepsi vs drinking out of a rancid pond

>>12918037
I'm comfortable being a faggot, and those three guys fucking each other were hot. Are you comfortable with being a cuck?

>>12917945

>>12917959
>She can have just as much success doing whatever she wants without all the retardation that comes with Cover's restrictions.
Anon, she can do that now but she never would've gotten that exposure without being part of Hololive in the first place. Don't get me wrong, they mishandled the Taiwan yab horribly, and management in general sounds frustrating to deal with, but KSon wouldn't be big if she didn't put in so much work as Coco. That's just reality.

If she didn't get attacked by Chinese antis, she would be the most hated JP Vtuber here, by far. The whole Taiwan thing was a miracle for her, shielding her from all criticism. If you dislike anything she does, you're an evil chink attacking our poor little kson, so she's free to do literally anything.

>>12911882
The only reason she is popular is because Coco and Ark survival streams, indies are trash and not welcome.

>>12918074
People would literally say that about Coke's taste, you kinda made my point there.

>>12918147
Keep crying chink, you’re still pathetic

>>12918044

>>12918147
Bla bla bla, all your posts are the same, you're a retard.

>>12918159
The point is vshojo quality is comparable to drinking out of a used toilet

>>12918223
He said without ever watching a stream

>>12918211
This creature is in the thread right now.
Imagine being born chinese and spending your days like a retard posting the same shit over and over for no reason at all.

>>12918223
To you, sure, but not to others. I don't know what more you want from this discussion.

gura is better

>>12917787
management companies in other parts of the world take a 10% cut, it's inverse in japan. they usually pay the talents shit and also make them pay for everything themselves. want a song? 10k. want to make shirts? we'll introduce you to an artist for 1k and you can commission him through us for only an additional 500 dollars, we'll then "help" you make the shirts but you have to front all the costs and we'll give you 15% of the profits.

>>12918093
Wouldn't know about that, I'm not a parasocial idolfaggot

>>12918263
I sincerely hope this thing where you pretend to like vshojo is just a gimmick, because if you genuinely watch that shit I am sorry for you.

>>12918294
Simple, you to admit your shit tastes, which you more or less have done

>>12914940
Who was the Ame clone?

>another episode of "tatsunokos vs chinks"

Kson is cool, most people here haven't even watched a single stream of her or are probably antis. Don't care either way because she's not my oshi

>>12918211
Lol, kill all chinks, they are subhuman.

>>12918330
He said without ever watching a stream

> What? The "creative difference" shit came from herself. Antis were saying that she got bullied out of the company or she was sick of Hololive and just wanted to make more money.

Fuck China, Taiwan is a country.

>>12918147
literally was one of the most popular and recognized vtubers in the industry before zhangs decided knowing taiwan exists is the final yab. but SURE just say things that are not true, it's your life to waste spouting lies that literally no one will ever believe because there's records of the truth. oh, i guess you can't see them behind the great firewall

>>12918377
Motherfucker I literally watched a nyanners stream like 4 days ago, and it was some of the worst garbage I've ever seen. Absolutely vindicated in not giving a shit about twitch clout chasers.

> kson proved that we should euthanize all Holos after they graduate
> it's for the good of society.

>>12918147
Most controversial or divisive? Probably. Most hated? Doubtful.
The Chinese anti swarm began months before "this place" existed, but even back in the /jp/ thread, she was not most hated. She was hated and loved in equal amounts, and I can't see any world where that changes.
Fun fact: The "I fucking love this bitch" phrase started as a response to a schizo posting "I fucking hate this bitch" every time she was taking up too much attention in the /jp/ thread. The love phrase ended up being used more and sticking around.

>>12918335
im not sure which character belonged to which voice but it was clearly mel and choco

>>12918475

>Kson proved that if you are the biggest earner in the entire fucking platform, rules don't aply to you
Trully inspirational.

>>12917795
No, it's best if they get killed after Hololive.
i can't handle them getting old and my oshi ending up with some dude that's not me
death is the kindest option for us all

>>12918475
I'm sure you did

>>12918483
Stop replying to that chink freak faggot, he posts the same shit on every thread every single day, he's mentally ill.

>>12918588
Go suck bidens farts, amerishart fat fuck

>>12911882
yes

>>12918327
Interesting, not really sure what that has to do with my post but it was an interesting read.

>>12918700
Nobody cares what a chink like you has to say, you're not even human.

>>12918700
I didn't believe you were actually an angry chink, but I'm starting to reconsider.

>>12918806
You sure seem to care enough to reply.

>>12918867
Keep crying chink

> >if you dont like kson youre a chink
> ah vely honolabre post comrade, this will vex them most tellibry

>>12918882
Keep replying, please

>>12918936
If you weren't such an angry chink you would have stopped replying long ago, but you can't help yourself can you? You will reply to this post too

>>12918557
Successful American with fuck-you-money does whatever she wants.

>>12919010
Keep it coming. Try not to commit a mass shooting with that American anger

>He replied
lmao

>She became vshojo+
Lmao

Imagine being born chinese

Imagine being born an obese mutt

Taiwan is a country and COVID came from China

> If she didn't get attacked by Chinese antis, she would be the most hated JP Vtuber here, by far. The whole Taiwan thing was a miracle for her, shielding her from all criticism. If you dislike anything she does, you're an evil chink attacking our poor little kson, so she's free to do literally anything.

>>12914940
>Unironically are the ones with the strongest rumors of leaving.
source: your ass, if anyone is leaving it would be Matsuri, haachama or Fbk. My oshi Aki would never hurt me that way so she's in the clear

>>12916688
>>12916909

>>12919645
Aki was going to leave long time ago if it weren't for Kaigai fans boosting her up.

>>12919645
>My oshi Aki would never hurt me

>>12917787
good point. also that other anon isnt me

>>12919727
are you implying I didn't know about something that happened more than a year ago? and that wasn't the case at all, she had long decided she would do things the way she wanted without worrying about numbers

>>12919645
If Fbk leaves thats the signal for the end if not a sign for drastic changes

>>12919711
Why do communist subhumans talk about mentioning Taiwan like it's saying "Nigger"?
I don't understand at all.
Did China lose a war with Taiwan or something?
Is that why they're so afraid of people admitting its a country?

>>12920016
because taiwan is the real china

>>12917932
Chaturbate shows cam shows related to your internet search history
A-anon...

>>12919645
good thing it was mel, not aki then.