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So it's been like five months since HoloEN and VShojo had their collabs
Where's the rescheduled Kiara x Veibae collab and the Mori x Ironmouse ‘Libera Me from Hell’ cover?
The most that has happened is in HoloID with Ollie appearing on Ironmouse podcast and a call between the two

>> No.12873216

thank you based omega, the hero we all need

>> No.12873246

Omegatranny doesn't want outside collabs anymore
Hence no Pomu collab either

>> No.12873299

They have melody x Coco collab rn what are you talking about OP?

>> No.12873376

>>12873246
>no Pomu
I'm like 90% sure this is actually NijiEN's fault not wanting to them to collab with Hololive, but people are retarded and just want to blame Omega for everything

>> No.12873432

>>12873376
NijiEN collabs with literally everyone, it'd be exceptionally odd if Hololive was the one exception. HoloEN has a history of being denied collabs, NijiEN does not. Pomu also said on stream that she was glad her collabs never got denied.

>> No.12873438

>>12873376
What's the logic in not wanting to collab with Hololive? Makes a lot more sense for Cover to not want to give their competition free exposure to their audience.

>> No.12874036

>>12873432
>NijiEN collabs with literally everyone
Everyone except Hololive, incredibility strange to think HoloEN management would allow them to collab with anitubers, Vshojo, and indies but randomly draw the line at NijiEN when they're far more harmless and tame than the other pervious mentioned groups
It's even stranger when you factor how Kiara and Pomu were total down to collab but something randomly came up, or how Selen and Ollie are both huge Apexfags and have a bit of cross-over in their social circles but a collab between the two has never materialized despite the fact HoloID has almost no restriction? The only conclusion I can come is NijiEN management wants them to steer clear of hololive
>>12873438
>What's the logic in not wanting to collab with Hololive?
I dunno, maybe NijiEN management is operating on a 5D chess 500 iq playing field, maybe they're just scared

>> No.12874298

>>12874036
>Everyone except Hololive, incredibility strange to think HoloEN management would allow them to collab with anitubers, Vshojo, and indies but randomly draw the line at NijiEN
When was the last time they collabed with antitubers Vshojo or indies anon I'd very much like to know
That's what it means to be under new management, that management being Omegatranny
>or how Selen and Ollie are both huge Apexfags
Funny how you mention this because during Ollie's collab with RpR he kept mentioning Selen and Ollie seemed like she was being held at gunpoint when she finally admitted she liked her
Almost no restriction does not mean no restriction

>> No.12874486

>>12874036
Are you trying to gaslight /vt/, Covershill?

>> No.12875167
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>>12874298
>When was the last time they collabed with antitubers Vshojo or indies anon I'd very much like to know
Mori just released like two songs with some indies, before that Mori also did a stream with an indie, and before that Kiara and Mori did collab with an anituber and voice actress
>seemed like she was being held at gunpoint when she finally admitted she liked her
Almost no restriction does not mean no restriction
Which is super strange considering Ollie literally just collab with some NijiIDs today with no issue
>>12874486
>>12874486
>Are you trying to gaslight /vt/
I'm not trying to gaslight shit lmao
All I'm saying is when you look at the empirical evidence that's stacked up, it begins to look more and more like NijEN management is the one keeping their talent in a gilded cage away from all thing Hololive

>> No.12875414

>>12875167
>Mori just released like two songs with some indies, before that Mori also did a stream with an indie, and before that Kiara and Mori did collab with an anituber and voice actress
Songs don't mean fuck-all as songs can be in production for ages and I'd love the dates on those streams, especially since Kiara herself said it was a very long time since she's collabed with someone outside of Hololive
>Which is super strange considering Ollie literally just collab with some NijiIDs today with no issue
I agree, it is strange, you'll have to take it up with management as to why they apparently see NijiEN as such a threat that even mentioning it on stream is risky
Remember when Kiara started singing Diamond City Lights and then said "whoops, I can't say that"?

>> No.12875886

>>12875414
>I'd love the dates on those streams,
Ogey
>"Shadowverse Buddy System All Stars Ft Kiara and Mori" : Streamed live on Jun 27, 2021
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3ONaq0jhPE
>【KARAOKE COLLAB】Calliope Mori X Milky Queen! (ARCHIVED) : Streamed live on Aug 14, 2021
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPK2gk2WNrw
>>Remember when Kiara started singing Diamond City Lights and then said "whoops, I can't say that"?
That's strange make seem like there's shit going on both sides imo
They're seemingly allowed to interact on twitter fine but they may as well be persona-non gratas on stream

>> No.12875980

>>12875886
Exactly. 3 months since the last outside collab. Council and Omegatranny were introduced 2 months ago. Not a coincidence.

>> No.12876031

>>12875980
i thought omegatranny was behind the scenes last year with myth

>> No.12876219

Hololive has banned collabs with other ENG talents when Council came in.

They want Myth to help bring the numbers up for Council before they are allowed to collab again.

Who knows how long the ban is for, it could be for 6 months.

>> No.12876750

>>12875980
Mori collab happened Aug 14, 2021, Council(& Omega) debuted on Aug 22, 2021
I sincerely doubt in the span of 8 days Omega alone showed up and said "No more outside collabs allowed!" especially when Mori and Kiara have mentioned having two different specific managers
I also forgot to include outside collab Ina did
>https://twitter.com/ACC_PR/status/1453584201412800519
>https://twitter.com/hololive_En/status/1453240040428015617
Which occurred on the 28th of October
So this idea that Omega is single handily blocking outside collabs is seeming more and more unlikely
In fact the more I look over this stuff the more I start to think this is mostly NijiEN management's doing

>> No.12878312

What you don't understand is that no one fucking stands any of the bureocracy they have to get through to actually play with any of the Holos.
Holofrens like to meme Nijisanji and Vshojo are blacklisted from collabs but ironically it's the complete opposite.

>> No.12879289

>>12873026
Went into this thread expecting bait and not actually people blaming Holo management for these things happening. Mouse has been talking about a second Mori collab for months now and even seemed pretty confident there would be one before Halloween but that never materialized either.

>> No.12880700

>>12879289
Also had reason to suspect that Mouse's guest this week on Speak of the Devil might have been someone from another agency since she keeps those secret until a day or so before the stream. Her guest this week was unannounced and last night she announced it was canceled.

>> No.12881559

>>12873376
Once Omega actually does anything positive of note, people will stop shitting on him so much.

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>>12875414
Mori tweet that something is in the works with Milky, song I'm guessing.
It's known that it's NijiEN that is the one stopping any HoloEN x NijiEN collabs.

>> No.12882225

>>12880700
My guess is one of the nijien 1st wave was supposed to be guesting. They had this Mario kart tournament pushed to them late

>> No.12882232

>>12881559
Once you schzios can actually prove Omega does anything negative of note I'll stop thinking you're all retarded

>> No.12882572

>>12878312
Reminder that Kiara got a collab denied not by any management but the Vtuber she wanted to collab with, allegedly Veibae, the person in qu estion answered her collab petition with: ''Yeah... that isn't gonna happen''

These Holo walls are actually making people stop trying to chase the holos and focus on other more open agencies.... but funnily enough, the Holos have enough fame and talents with actual talent to keep afloat even with the absensce of outside collabs.

>> No.12882615

>>12882225
SotD is on Thursdays and she announced that it had been canceled yesterdays. So if the tournament was yesterday it wouldn't have affected their ability to show up today.

>> No.12887027

>>12873026
because nobody cares.

>> No.12887077

>>12876219
>souce: my ass

>> No.12888538

>>12873026
funny you should drop this. mouse just said cali and her will have a playdate soon.

>> No.12888605

>>12887077
better than

>your ass

>> No.12888645

>>12882232
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EidCX737TvM

>> No.12888699

>>12888538
Yeah mousey just confirmed at least 2 collabs with calli are in the near future.

>> No.12888951

>>12873246
There's going to be another Mori Ironmouse collab.

>> No.12889032

>>12873026
Funny timing

https://streamable.com/25e2n8

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>>12889032
Pomu......

>> No.12891028
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OP here, I made this thread for the purpose of it being half-bait and half-discussion, I don't watch VShojo lol. Heh, I didn't expect an actual collab in the works, although I guess that Ironmouse has it easy

>> No.12891746

>>12889404
Chicken should have pushed for it harder...

>> No.12892244

>>12873376
>>12874036
Idk if this counts as something but I was watching Millie playing Minecraft the other day and she was talking about vtubers and how she love some vtubers designs. She talked about Prism or some random vtubers debuts and then when she was about to say something related to a Holomem, she hesitated and say something like "I guess it's okay to say it?"

It was kinda weird because she suddenly asked if she can mention a Holo after Pikamee appearing in chat, talking about others EN agencies and even asking chat about new EN vtubers debuts

>> No.12892479

>>12892244
https://youtu.be/ECTAdWciet8?t=8631

>> No.12892909

Pomu gets real sketchy any time someone asks her about Kiara on her streams, too. Also, back on her wotaku stream she wanted to make a nijisanji/hololive analog when talking about hello project and AKB48, but was extremely uncomfortable even mentioning hololive. Weird shit.

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