/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>12817987
what managers have to do with this?
the girls can take a break at any moment, ayame barely streams and she doesn't give a shit

any clip of that?

Black Company, which includes negligence from higher ups and no mandated vacation services please understand.

>>12818097
They need to have fixed schedules. 3 hours a day with a minimum of 1. All Holos. Don't comply and you're fired. Simple as. There, saved Hololive.

>>12818097
Managers know what their schedules are and back to back to back days of 16+ hour days should raise a red flag for anyone

Once you figure out that doing the things that you love can repay you plentifully, you forget about the concept of being tired.
Your mind gets a huge dopamine rush whenever it is at ease knowing that doing what you love also pays your bills and supports your needs.
You can continue doing what you love tirelessly, day in and day out, until one day you start to notice abnormalities in your routine.
Take Nene for example: She mentions on stream, laughingly, that she could not sleep for more than 1 hour a day for the past 1 week. Nene being the highly energetic and loving person, her emotions were a barrier to her conscienceness, which was screaming for a break.
Korone, on the other hand, might fool us that she has "trained her body" to stream for extremely long hours without any consequences. She's infamous for her 24-hour streams afterall. Dopamine is an incredible thing, it can render basic body functions if the mind is overdosed on it. Hence what happened to Korone - she got diagnosed with severe levels of stress, which was felt by the body and not her mind.
It reminds me of those people that have a disability to not feel pain. Because of that they don't feel pain, often do they hurt themselves badly, and very often, deathly.

That is why routine must be enforced by managers. One of their fucking jobs is to take care of our oshi's health afterall. Nene and Korone might not notice this but they basically shit-talked their managers big time, which should serve as a very late wake-up call.
OP wasn't a faggot today. Fuck tardy management in every job and activity.

>>12819593
Very based and rationalpilled

>Retarded women children can't take care of themselves
>Somehow its the managers job to make sure they're tucked in at night
A manager is just a monkey the talents tell to do shit for them, once their shift is over, its over, very few managers are so dedicated that they''re on top of their talents 24/7

Also the fact that isn't happening to all of them, just a handful, meaning the girls are the problem, not the manager, they're to retarded to be careful with their health.
And don't give me this bullshit about BUT DANCE LESSONS, 3D STREAMS, none of them do that every single day, not even the more idol ones.

>>12819242
And? That doesn't change anything, Watame and Korone said on stream that their managers advised them agaisnt streaming long time and told them to rest multiple time, they still streamed anyway because they didn't give a shit and thought that their situation wouldn't become dire. They are adult, not kindergartners, their manager can't force them in everything.

>>12819770
pretty based ngl

>>12819781
We're right as fans to prevent them from doing life-altering shit like not going to sleep when they're clearly going on too long. The more people who do this the better, and may we do so to anyone that goes more than 3 hours at a given time of date.

You want to fix Hololive? WE as fans need to hold the talents accountable for their streaming hours. Over or under the accepted numbers. This includes telling Holos like Ayame they need to stream or fuck off.

>>12819825
I love the Ayame seethe, she's proof the girls don't need to overwork themselves so badly.
They do it because they want to.

>you're the only one of your colleagues to live past 60

>>12817987
They do. They maximize the profits for the chink investors.

don't worry, all they need to do is vent all their problems on watame

>>12819841
Nigger you're not understanding a word I'm saying. We want Holos to stream at a rate that is just right and not imbalanced. 3 hours every day is fair. 5 days a week minimum too. This is how you ensure a healthy Hololive.

>>12819825
>we

Stop concernfagging and telling me what I need to do.

>>12819853
This as well

>>12819770
This isn't your office job from 9 to 5 where you're monitored only in that timeframe and free to do whatever the fuck you want after or before that timeframe.
A different management must happen where managers become literal babysitters, because these particular girls know very well how to have fun and not how to take care of their body. They could also be called "addicts that get payed for doing whatever drug they like".
It's beyond "muh oshi retarded lelmao, can't shit down the toilet without someone holding her hand".

>>12819891
Hold your damn oshi accountable before she dies. We don't want another Korone. It was right for us to keep nudging her but she didn't listen.

>>12817987
And one wonder why Coco left...
If that is the treatment of yab-free someone, then imagine how Coco was treated for half a year.

>>12819907
No nigger, the fans replace the manager. To hell with managers. Let us take control due to their repeated incompetence.

>>12819907
>muh oshi retarded lelmao, can't shit down the toilet without someone holding her hand
This is hot though.

>>12819942
Yeah, right until fans start getting banned for telling their oshi how to do her job

>>12819939
Coco left for legitimate reasons however. As fans we should allow Holos to stream whatever they want. In her case, her manager was too restrictive in content or was that upper management itself that her manager was too cuck to stand up to?

>>12819873
>We
I don't care how long Holo's wanna stream. None of them have a set schedule and again, Ayame is proof they don't need to stream everyday or go for 11 hours a day.

Hell Subaru mostly streams on the weekends, and far as know Hololive demands 3 streams a week and no more, anything past that is a bonus.

>>12819939
Coco left because she killed Asacoco with a poor taste joke then stuck her nose where it didn't belong and cost cover god knows much money, stop turning her into some kind of martyr, also she to almost killed herself doing the daily asacoco shit.

>>12819973
They ban us because we're always right.

>>12819942
>btw did you drink water yet? It's been 1 hour since you drank water last
>don't forget to breathe through your nostrils
Imagine having a chat like that. Must make you feel pretty pathetic about yourself whenever people tell you how to take care of yourself instead of focusing what you're bringing to the table.

>>12819988
And we should be forcing Ayame to stream AT LEAST 3 hours a day AT LEAST 5 days a week just like her coworkers when managers are replaced with us as fans. They all need to do their fucking jobs at Cover Corporation and if it takes us as fans to intervene, so be it.

>>12819896
Just because someone speaks Chinese doesnt mean that they have Chinese nationalist tendencies. Just means that their parents are Chinese. Bae was born in Australia, so she's Australian.

>>12820024
Still better than repeated incompetence that caused Korone to get Parkinson's. We were in good faith the whole time when we told her she needed to go the fuck to sleep. Off with your moral high ground, Redditor.

>>12819873
>We

>>12820064
>he isn't
Where do you think we are?

All of the fucking Reddit newfags unaware that concernfagging is justified after Korone got diagnosed with a terminal disease and told us it wasn't a big deal. Never ever trust a damn nip woman and fuck their managers and employers for enabling them.

>>12820050
>>12820113
Lol, really? You said she's not that old yet.

Why are those girls not sleeping to begin with? It's not like they stream all day everyday, and even then they stream from the comfort of their fucking house. The real question is, what the fuck are they doing when they're not streaming that tires them out that much?

>>12820135
She's in her early 40s. That's ancient.

No one is streaming 11 hours a day. Virtually no one streams every day or even close to it.

>>12820147
Fucking their boyfriends of course. What else? Offpako as well.

>>12817987
Korone thought she was invincible, it's mainly on her.

>>12820168
Mewaki does, even though she sleeps a lot on stream.

>>12820147
sitting in a chair/laying in a bed 24/7, 5 days a week, is not healthy in the long-term.

>>12820168
Korone did multiple times the past 2 years.
And Pekora streams every day.

>>12820201
We're not asking for them to do that forever dumbass. Just 1-3 hours a day.

>>12820047
there's no point in replying to that faggot that keeps posting that image, he's likely a mainlander chink trying to bring down a Cantonese person

>>12819825
Are you people retarded? You're viewing a streamer. You don't need to do anything. You're not their friend. They don't know you. Sit the fuck down, schizo.

>>12820088
>we

It's JP work culture shit. Being told you need to take a break is almost like a compliment. Just makes them want to work even harder.

>>12820147
The girls REFUSE to stream themselves snuggling in bed, whispering sweet nothings to us, and going to sleep for 8 hours, like a NORMAL streamer, and it's taking its toll on their health.

>>12820047
Fuck this stupid goddamn western notion of birthright citizenship. If I was born in Japan I wouldn't be accepted as a Jap. It's just the way it is. If you breed a German Shepherd in Norway is it a Norwegian Shepherd or something?
She's a chink.

>>12820264
I'm not the one who wants to see another one die like Korone did.

>>12820047
>he doesn't know

The rrat lied about speaking Cantonese on stream
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HX_SkVU8lM [Embed]

And she quickly removed the vod after. Then, in a subsequent SC stream, she surprisingly confessed it was Cantonese/Chinese
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKOSO6smn8M [Embed]

Can you believe that Cover is hiring chinese people after the drama and Coco's graduation? How disrespectful to Coco. Coco probably graduated because she heard about Baelz.

>>12817987
>concernfags fuck off these adult women can take care of themselves
>said adult women collapse because theyre too stupid to have basic self control
bros?

>>12819825
you have no power to stop this, faggot
unless u burn down cover corp's building. in minecraft i mean

>>12820394
>How disrespectful to Coco
Oh fuck off. There is absolutely nothing respectful about Coco and in her overall behavior.

>>12820413
Yes. We're right. The Redditors from yesterday are still coping from their denial that we should just "back off and let them do what they want."

>>12820438
As a board we must hold the Holos accountable to us as fans before they die.

>>12820441
This is why Coco graduated. You couldn't accept her despite carrying the brand.

>>12820394
I've read this exact post before. Copypasted. Not even pasta.

This dude is either a schizo or just trying to gaslight people

You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink.
Other than strict guidelines to stream which wouldn't be received well by all off them, nothing can be done.

>>12820520
How are facts incorrect?

>>12820534
Trim the deadweights either way. Nijisanji and VShojo doesn't have the same problem Hololive does. And indies stream more consistently too.

>>12820566
Indies have to work hard instead of a brand carrying them.

I am only going to say this at least once or twice. But a lot of you seem to forget that Japan has the culture of overworking. There is literally a type of death named after overworking in their culture. And a lot of times, overworking isn't the result of management; its peer pressure.

We have seen this within the mangaka community.

I hope that management could offer the girls help or resources, or at the very least, force the girls to limit themselves so they don't overwork themselves.

I rather have a healthy Vtuber who streams for like 1 or 2 hours, 2 days a week then a Vtuber who puts their health at risk.

>>12820365
Japan's top tennis and basketball players are half black born in Japan, and they're respected by everyone in the country except for the boomers.

And take it from me, even though I ethnically pass and fluently speak the language of my parent's homeland, the locals can immediately tell that you're not from their country and will treat you like a foreigner.

And yes, nationalism is just as simple as being born there. There are no such thing as ethnically inherent traits, they're taught by your parents. If I was an orphan and adopted by Japanese parents, I would be accepted as Japanese because I act and think Japanese.

>bae is a chinses spy
I thought we got rid of you niggers

>>12820614
What about a middle ground like most of us want?

>>12820614
One hour streams being the norm would be awful

>>12820614
>overworking
Fucking where? For the last fucking time the girls don't stream 24h/24. There is absolutely nothing to be overworked with in their context.

>40+ talents within the company
>The people this is happening are ones known for overworking themselves, streaming for long or pushing themselves to much.
This is not an epidemic, this is morons not being careful with their health.

Imagine having a job that's so fucking easy you don't even have to wear pants and can just play games with a camera on you and still getting to the point where you feel too exhausted or sick to continue.

There's people that haven't seen the sun in a decade who are more physically capable than some of these streamers

>>12819593
So you're saying that all it takes to make Vtubers stream more is the help of a couple of tablet boys?

>>12819770
>A manager is just a monkey the talents tell to do shit for them
That's bullshit. You know it, I know it, everyone knows it.

>>12820538
Being a fag doesn't make you correct. It makes you a fag

How's Korone's condition, /vt/?
-concerned /v/ visitor

I watch a lot of different streamers, some of them streaming minimum 5 hours 5 days a week. Never have I heard them complain about exhaustion, even if they're vtubers.

Something has to be up behind the scenes, constant exhaustion and sickness is not normal in the streaming space.

>>12820932
Holowhores also work a lot to satisfy the chinese investors sexually off camera.

>>12820932

For what it's worth being a vtuber isn't any different than a normal streamer, for better or worse. Streaming isn't a taxing job, it's no more a health risk than sitting down and playing video games all day.

If anything, the hololive talents are more active than 99% of career streamers since they have to do some commuting for 3d stuff and do dance lessons / rehearsals for their big events.

>>12817987
kys

>>12820932
Who knows what bullshit they have to deal with off-stream. Mel's manager tried to groom her by forcing her into hours of meetings until she complained, which makes you wonder if some girls just put up with it and stay silent.
It must be rough having some jackass try to chat you up and banter every time you want work done, which is what had Gura seething about a new manager.

>>12820899
seethe, cope, dilate

>>12819236
>They need to have fixed schedules.
they do not
the thing killing them are meetings and projects setup, basically all the managers works
also, everybody from gen 0 to 4 can be ayame without consequences

>>12819236
>Fire them over streaming too long or not long enough
>Now have to graduate them
>Have to come up with a decent model and rig it
>Means a new 3D model
>Have to scout new talent
Lol okay.

>>12819988
>stuck her nose where it didn't belong
oh nyo she looked at the google analytics page

eat glass zhang

>>12819770
dont you fucking use my oshi for your shit take. kys

>>12822959
Shut up fag. Never respond to me again

>>12820673
>There are no such thing as ethnically inherent traits
>I would be accepted as Japanese because I act and think Japanese
You know that's not true, anon.

They were fine, just a bit of exhaustion. Stop believing shit tier translations by otakmori.

>>12820932
Different vtubers sizes come with different pressures and responsibilities

its not just about steam that game, its the upcoming merch, the new anti fanbase, looking for collabs, off-work like promotion and training, new ideas for streams, real life leaks and stalker shenanigans, working on a really unstable industry

>>12819180
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWXj21kMVHc

>>12827456
That song is 20 years old.

>>12827595
older than most people on this board

>>12827715
nothing wrong with being young, it beats the alternative of vtuber simping as an old guy

Yo redditors they are fucking adults, it is not yours or anyone else's job to tell them how to live their life, they wouldn't be playing the game for so long if they didn't like it. The amount of time they stream a lot of the time is average for playing a game, it is especially normal considering this is their job, for example a 9 to 5 is 8 hours of back to back work, a standard school day is 6 hours, yet if they stream for more than 4 you disgusting freaks start spamming "go to sleep". How do you think it feels for a grown adult to see people babying them in such ways? Mandatory breaks are retarded to since a lot of them enjoy their job and if forced to take a day off would probably sleep the entire day away so they could get back to their job quicker.
Tldr: reddit normieshits are lardass faggots who need to stop bossing others around

>>12819825
All you achieve by concernfagging is putting them under more stress. Nobody takes well advice given from people they don't know, much less from a turboschizo on youtube chat that keeps spamming it every 5s.

>>12828552
I think it's going to need one of them to get really fucked so the other girls and cover take this more seriously

>>12817987
>korone almost died
>nene collapsed
>they're both vaxxed
What do they mean by this, vaxxbros?

The average big name twitch streamer streams 3x more than any Holo without ever having a breakdown. How can you possibly get tired from talking to a camera and playing video games? Is it a women thing?

I wonder how much trouble Korone's manager has to go through just to get a message through to her. Same for Ayame, her manager probably has to use Mio as a middleman otherwise Ayame will refuse to show up for recordings and stuff.

>>12828805
probably the misogynists called managers, behind the scenes they constanly push their agenda muh pure idols

>>12828893
Their jobs have to be to manage the things that aren't streaming

it doesn't make a difference if they put normal dance and singing lessons if she is not good has to take a break later to recover

its just bad for everyone involved

>>12819770
It's the manager's job to protect company profits. That means prioritizing holos' health. Managers should limit holos streaming hours if it is affecting their health. Ayame is the opposite. Managers don't need to tell her to stream more, unless her fans stop giving her just as much money.

>>12829127
They don't have to manager the streams hours, just rearrange the other things so it match theirs

its a lot of work yea but they are getting paid for that

>>12828805
Twitch streamers are bums who dont take showers and repeat the same actions like a robot