/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

ccv + sc
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://overseas.live-ranking.com/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/total-ranking/youtube
>https://www.dousetu.com/daily_ranking/
>http://v-ana.com/
>https://playboard.co/en/

Hololive
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://twitter.com/holo_data
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://mipacd.github.io/chat-stats/excl-chat.html
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html

Nijisanji
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings

* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN *

Here it goes
>43,955: Subaru (Hololive)
>35,038: Pekora (Hololive)
>28,652: Maimoto (Nijisanji)
>26,950: Rushia (Hololive)
>21,681: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>21,261: Toya (Nijisanji)
>18,251: Miko (Hololive)
>17,820: Patra (774 inc.)
>17,141: Nene (Hololive)
>16,582: Korone (Hololive)
>14,862: Kanae (Nijisanji)
>13,238: Shibuya Hal (merise)
>12,026: Kanae (Nijisanji)
>11,697: Botan (Hololive)
>10,436: Kanata (Hololive)

>>12765691
To massively oversimplify, one of their top talents (Tama) started openly shittalking management after being passed up for a live event (honestly don't remember the exact details), she left the company and took her closest genmate with her, fans were split over whether to keep supporting the company or her new persona Sio who was about as much of a secret as kson's identity (Sio would also have her own nuclear yab later that killed her career but that's a story for another time), and the whole drama still clouding over killed off any sense of unity or fun in the agency. They kept going but were never anywhere near the same after, a couple of them just vanished and they ended up graduating half the talents earlier this year in pretty bad circumstances (Natori was streaming non-stop her last few days and was in floods of tears for her graduation stream because she didn't want to say goodbye to her fans). There's still a few of them going but now they hover around 1000 CCV on a good day, plus a new wave of 3 girls they debuted that were just completely DOA.

>>12767855
>Natori was streaming non-stop her last few days and was in floods of tears for her graduation stream because she didn't want to say goodbye to her fans
One thing I always asked myself: did she have a non compete or something like that?

There was quite literally zero preventing her from just redebutting and carrying on, except of course if she was contractually obligated not to do that.

>>12767855
I never knew Tama was Sio that explains a lot. Holy shit that's a lot of drama affecting a ton of people coming from one person

>>12767855
why did Sio do that?

>>12767900
Probably grew attached to the persona and knew that only a portion of the fans would follow her. Almost certainly contractually obligated not to advertise her new channel (if she even had it set up by then) on the stream. Also noncompetes don't work that way and don't apply if you terminate someone.

>>12767956
For all people know it might as well have been
>for the glory of Satan

>>12767978
>Also noncompetes don't work that way and don't apply if you terminate someone.
Depends on the severance package. Some companies pay you a hefty sum of money for your signature on a "won't work in the same field for X months" agreement

>>12767790
Hololive 8 - 7 Nijisanji
A real nail biter.

It's hard to think a totsu with thirty-six(36) call ins wouldn't get more.

Also the Korone game needs to be banned.

>>12768148
>barks

Some anon asked the question a day or so ago if this was the month that Miko would dethrone Pekora in the metric watch hours, which would be a feat since Pekora has been holding that metric for quite a while.
Well the maiden is in the lead, but it's dwindling fast. I doubt she can hold out the month unless Pekora has a uncharacteristic streaming schedule for the rest of the month.

>>12768134
Severance package in a Vtuber agency?
That’s a good one.

>>12767900
Well, she has already redebuted, took her a few months to get a new model.

Kiara surely has a low ceiling

>>12767790
Welp Another day, Another holo win
Hololive: 8
Nijisanji: 5
Others: 2

>>12768840
She always wanted to collab with NijiEN so she adopted to their level first. For now it's the Le 7k Ceiling lmfao

>>12768840
I will never understand how the fuck can she (and several others) have 1.25 million subs but struggle hard to reach even 10k views.

>>12767790
Hololive would be nothing without that horror game, today is a nijisanji win on my book

>>12768855
Patra and Hal are honorary Nijis. I'd argue that Subaru is too but I don't get good feedback on that take.

>>12768939
>barks

>>12768922
Most people don't unsub they just stop watching the majority of your content and only cherry-pick what they're gonna watch. This is true for all youtubers.

NIJICOPE LIST
>building a sub-culture
>slow and steady growth
>merch sales
>no longer showing off their achievements on their page because they have shown more humility
>percentages
>tournaments don't count
>fortune telling
>volume
>averages
>total CCV during primetime
>trailers are ads
>Google trends
>Holo EN was a desperate gambit
>Holo's forcibly acquired audience vs Niji's natural growth
>stop picking on midgets! fight someone your own size!
>pit Vshojo against HoloEN when you're losing
>pit HoloEN against HoloJP when you're losing
>pit former Holo against HoloJP when you're losing
>Holobubble is bursting
>foreign buff/global audience bad, muh local Nips good
>YouTube Japan trends
>Apex will only get more popular from now on!
>flexible creative freedom
>Holo's restrictive management will cause them to eventually graduate
>Cover uses bots
>Hal is honorary Niji
>Kson is honorary Niji
>Ui is honorary Niji
>Most vtubers are Nijisanji like and Nijisanji is part of greater vtuber community
>Nijisanji fans are more passionate about their livers and will leave dislikes to show their engagement
>Sponsorships are retarded
>Hololive's merch and sponsorship bad because companies underestimated them which means that they don't care about the cheap collab
>Koshien is not an event
>Nijisanji is solidifying their other markets while keeping their strong home market
>Pre-recorded lives are technically premiers and shouldn't count
>Cover is just lucky to have clippers and algorithm on their side
>Hololive invented unicorns
>Watchalongs are POVs
>Nijisanji isn't a corporation, it's a family
>Each Twitch viewer is equivalent to about 1.5 Youtube viewers because Selen flopped her first Twitch stream and Selen never flops
>Evil God Korone is an event game.
>Patra is honorary niji.

>>12768949
You not getting good feedback has never stopped you before.

>>12768840
The question is if any new subs she gets is actual new subs or just kfp bot accounts. If there is one fanbase I wouldn't put it past it's the kfps.

>>12768939
Kek, Seethe more nijifag

Besides it's still a Holowin without the Evil God Korone game. Pekora mogged that Nijiguy at 3rd lol

>>12768840
Kiara seems to always ramp slowly, in that she takes a long time to reach her peaks. I think it's a side effect of streaming midday NA. It's not a great timeslot but at least there's minimal competition. She's at 9.2K now

>>12769563
It's just how this timeslot is, Ina gets the same thing starting at 4 EST. Peak several hours in or sometimes just before she ends the stream.

>>12768148
I think he did it at the same time as Kuzuha who was on Twittcast.

>>12768840
I bet Sana karaoke number would be better than even chiken.

>>12760338
I read last thread and realized that this man is who made Isegye Idol

>>12769742
Come back buff but Sana is an almost unbelievably bad singer. Like not even meme level she is really, really bad

I'm convinced these stupid membership messages depress SC income

>>12769909
Sucks for the smaller chuubas but the larger ones aren't really that dependent on SC income these days.

>>12768148
>Also the Korone game needs to be banned.
Lmao Mr koro is so freaking powerful

But the only Top HoloJP who haven't played it is Marine. So you can stop the seething

>>12769909
I am 100% sure they do

>>12769829
Yeah lol, i do enjoy Ame, Fauna, Pekora and Noel (who are being called as bad singers for some reason, they're not as bad as people say imo)
But Sana's singing is a little bit unbearable

>>12769909
Maybe a bit, people that just want to say some random shit for a dollar can just use the green message. On the other hand, it's something that might tip the scales for someone to get a membership. Either way it's probably negligible.

>>12770149
To someone who has 0 attachment to Ame I find her singing worse than Sana's since she yells more and actively tries to be even more unpleasant.

>>12769829
sana is still better than Fauna
>>12769909
the messages are only for 2+months
tat means these are regulars which is what you want on the long run as a streamer. Constant memebership or subs.

>>12768148
>It's hard to think a totsu with thirty-six(36) call ins wouldn't get more.
nobody knows half the people that called.

>>12770269
>the messages are only for 2+months
It scratches just the itch the member had to say something his oshi would read.

>>12770149
I don't think Fauna's bad, she's just very untrained and unpracticed. Ame genuinely can't seem to keep time or pitch to the music and Sana, in her one karaoke, just blunt forces her way through every song.

>>12770314
>>12769909
Can it be disabled? Would to optics of disabling it look really bad?

>>12770312
COEP

Guys. Numbers. Who the fuck cares who the is the worst singer among a bunch of bad singers.

>>12770352
Yes, Fubuki has it disabled from the very start

>Kiara gets 10k by singing Du Hast Mich

>>12770426
Only Kiara is streaming and it's karaoke.
So discussing who is a bad or good singer (which also affects their numbers) is ok.

At least for now since almost no one is streaming.

>>12770269
>sana is still better than Fauna
No, she demolished all those interesting songs in her playlist

>>12770531
>the only German song any EOPs know besides Tannenbaum and Panzerlied

So, now that the dust has settled how are we taking this? Pretending we didn't get BTFO and cope? Finally admitting men will carry NijiEN and that Selen on twitch isn't the answer?

>>12769696

Maimoto totsu was at the 2 hours mark after Kuzuha started his twitcast.
He had plenty of time to gather views

>Kiara sings Du Hast
>viewership +1000

People were speaking of fan art and how Hololive gets more of it and how it can't be bought and there are some things that really really really can't be bought.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7c3vcDw6oGo

Changhua Senior High School 80 years school celebration, you can't make this shit up. They unironically held a Hololive parade.
Taiwanese are crazy lads, I give them that. You can't really put a price in this type of passion

>>12770636
You forgot about Amerika.

>>12770677
She picked a shitty time, like 4 am EST, it's not really a good test run. I'd like to see her stream Apex during NA primetime, with no collab or anything just a straight stream, and what number she comes away with.

>>12770677
>t-twitch views are botted! susan is the reason why my favorite holo is reclining!
>heh, looks like we win again, nijiniggers. look how your streamer didn't get the numbers on twitch.
Holobronies are truly immune to cognitive dissonance

>>12770751
All it takes is a company-altering geopolitical crisis. Everyone should give it a try.

>>12770751
Part of the fallout of the China yab is Hololive fandom is also way to say fuck the CCP in TW. If they quietly debuted a TW based Holo without naming them HoloTW they would get an avalanche of support

>>12770780
She had to stream that late to avoid overlapping with VShojo. Imagine the CCV if she had to compete with their 17k collab.

>>12770801
>implying I give a shit about my favorite holo's numbers and how the compare to twitch streamers'
I am just someone who is disappointed and think Selen's ceiling has been mostly met. .

>>12770751
>I'm going to go to school as Minecraft Gura!
>Nobody kicks his ass
Magical place

>>12770801
No this is on Selen for doing a bad job transferring her audience. We have evidence of Miko switching midstream and getting a significant increase in audience, probably because her occasional watch alongs meant her audience was ready to go at a moment's notice.

>>12770751
>the fucking tako
my sides

>>12770950
>switch website
>get to the top of minecraft category with your old audience
>get discovered by new people
Simple as, nothing to do with CCV fuckery

>>12770914
Selen's audience is the FPS audience, and while Vshoujo do play FPS they're dogshit at it. I don't think going against them would hurt her much and the general amount of EN speaking fans on twitch at that time when kids are out of school will more than make up for it.

>>12770751
Taiwan bros I kneel.

>>12770914
Was she really that scared to overlap with Vshojo?
Guess she really is a numberfag.

>>12770950
Also the sheer novelty of seeing someone famous venturing onto Twitch that normally doesn't.

>>12770914
>Scared to overlap a collab which didn't even break past 20k.

>>12770914
>>12771021
Streaming at the same time as vshojo doing something other than fps probably would have helped her since those fans aren't getting served by Mario Party.

>>12770914
I feel she's streaming that late because she wants to attract JP Apex autists

>>12770751
Lmfao That fucking Takodachi made me laugh hard

>>12771182
That's only gonna work in tournaments, Japanese won't watch someone daily who can't speak their language.

wellp kiara is done singing in german and still 10.5k, what`s the next cope?

>>12770751
>lose the chink audience
>gain the undying dedication of the Taiwanese audience
IT'S THAT SIMPLE

* Curreny NijiEN numbers *
Three things

1) Nina must fucking hate the idea of having an audience. She NEVER gets past 300 people watching her watchalongs, that most definitely will hamper her growth
2) NijiEN girls onboarding the Minecraft meta is kind of cute, if it was not too late.
3) Enna must be dumb, she didn't stream her POV
4) Good numbers for Pomu, decent numbers for Millie

>>12770751
Now this.. is SOVL

Anya is gonna play the Evil God Korone, can she get 4k?
>Roboco only got 5.8k but it was on a bad timeslot

>>12770426
Nijicope. Go back to your shitty 3 digit Niji spic and dog streamer. Nijiniggers sure like to just make up stuff about Holo just because Hololive is DESTROYING Niji’s non existing career

>>12771392
Lmfao, my fucking sides

>>12771414
oh so then it seems Holo got the perms to play it outside jp. Would be weird if they didnt but still. Maybe gura`s tba..?

>>12771490
Holy shit I thought that was an edit, there's actually a person under there. This is approaching kpop levels of insane devotion

>>12771387
Those are good numbers for Pomu and that other one.
>>12771079
God I hope not. We know she visits this trash hole and if she's a numberfag she'll see this playful thread.

>>12771414
I wanna say yes but she debuff herself most of the time with streaming on a busy timeslot or the overuse of the game. I expect her to make 2k at least.

>>12771387
Also
>Reimu...
She's EN Kiara, both in voice, vibe and numbers. She's cursed as fuck and I can only imagine how hard it would be to devise an strategy to lift her up.

Was she anything in her previous life?

>>12771424
Anon. What are you responding to??? How is this Nijicope??

>>12771387
Nina streams an enormous amount. In fact she's pledged to stream every day this month. The JoJo streams are pretty much just her equivalent of break days. There's a reason she started out way behind Millie and is now +8k on her in subs.

>>12771021
>>12770914
>>12770780
problem is not the time. she has had apex at that time before with 3.5k
the problem is twitct shitty discoverability
try searching her channel without entering her exact name and you will get jackshit.
Miko and Elira also (had a jumpking stream iwth 3k) got the adavnaatge of being set after a youtube proble so teir usual audience were infromed about it on stream.

>>12771582
>is a ghost
>cursed as fuck
Omegatroon, if you're reading this THIS is how you do lore. Let real life be pottery.

>>12771387
Since when the fuck is 3 digits decent for a NIJI member with Minecraft? I thought they had a 3k peak ccv median?

>>12771582
Her Spanish stream was still her most successful stream

>>12771710
>Since when the fuck is 3 digits decent for a NIJI member with Minecraft?
This is the era we live in. 1.2k is a good number.

>>12771710
It's decent for Millie, vs her average.

Two Kpop songs? HL really is trying to claim that KR audience.

>>12771582
Without the huge SC numbers.

>>12771582
Why do you gotta insult Reimu like that? She's nice.

>>12771773
Tsunderia.....

>>12771530
Having an entire parade for Hololive is crazy but dressing up as a tako at one of them is not "kpop levels of insane devotion". They are fans having fun not schizos buying thousands of dollars for bot votes or purchasing computers and old smartphones to increase view counts.

>>12771773
It's a shame it isn't working.

>>12771582
I thought Kiara curse is caused by her bright orange color that triggered so many autists

>>12771846
Nijiniggers in denial yet again

>>12771582
>She's EN Kiara, both in voice, vibe and numbers.
Kiara has pretty good superchat number so no, Reimu is an even bigger failure than her somehow.

>>12771830
Kpopfags truly already master numberfagging

>>12771392
SSOOVVL

>>12771918
Motherfuckers are acting like Kiara doesn't have about a ~1M in SC alone. Girl knows how to hit those saviourfag buttons

IRyS is probably gonna tip over to 700k on a break day...

>>12771773
Koreanbros we won

>>12771608
>There's a reason she started out way behind Millie and is now +8k on her in subs.

Gaining subs isn't helping her the least and Millie actually only has 4 fewer streams than Nina in the past month.
>pic related

Here are their medians and averages, today is exactly one full month after the Wave 3 debut (so their mean is inflated by their debut numbers).

>2800 median :: 3200 mean :: Selen Tatsuki (25 streams)
>1795 median :: 2119 mean :: Elira Pendora (25 streams)
>1710 median :: 1862 mean :: Pomu Rainpuff (24 streams)
>1460 median :: 1574 mean :: Finana Ryugu (23 streams)
>1303 median :: 1399 mean :: Rosemi Lovelock (25 streams)
>1300 median :: 1720 mean :: Millie Parfait (33 streams)
>1126 median :: 1166 mean :: Petra Gurin (21 streams)
>1036 median :: 1597 mean :: Enna Alouette (33 streams)
>1024 median :: 1417 mean :: Nina Kosaka (37 streams)
>846 median :: 1320 mean :: Reimu Endou (37 streams)

>>12771582
>Was she anything in her previous life?
She was primarily an utaite, doing songs/covers for like 8 years. She did do some vtuber streams on Twitch starting in April 2021, but I don't think she ever broke triple digit viewers. So, despite 500 ccv being low, it's still like a 10x increase over her PL.

>>12772323
I caught a few of her streams before. Even collabing with a 1k average friend she only hit like 70 ccv. A literal 2view before Niji.

>>12772245
Nina is also 6K over Millie in SCs. It's clear she's outperforming the rest of them.

>>12772245
Jeez, aside from Selen and Elira, the branch itself is just sad. NijiEn feels like a fucking treadmill team. Not good enough to be contenders but not bad enough to get a top pick. In their case, they're not good enough to even be a lower mid Holo in popularity but their not indies anymore so they can't just audition again to try and get that golden ticket.

>>12771582
The only notable thing is she used to have a spanner in Kanae's chat. Otherwise she was just one of many utaites floating around. She did sing with Nijis, I think.

>>12772457
Oh. But they can. There's precedent already.

>>12772457
Technically they can, and there's precedent for it on the JP side. If Selen, Pomu, or Elira applied for EN3 they'd have to at least seriously consider the application. Would that ever happen? Seems unlikely but not impossible.

>>12772463
What does that mean?

>>12770636
You forgot 99 Luftballoons

>>12772624
She use to hang out in Kanae's chat often, and her messages would often be seen and noticed by him because she had the Youtube Verification checkmark.

>>12772587
>If Selen, Pomu, or Elira applied for EN3 they'd have to at least seriously consider the application
Doubt it. Cover would either take a flier on a 2view or recruit someone who is known for something besides vtubing. Nina, unironically, has the best resume of all of NijiEN to get into hololive.

>>12772587
Nijisanji isn't gonna let go of them for 1-2 years (depending on their contract).

Kuzuha will win tomorrow so just close the thread for tomorrow.
At least we have Holo third gen to make up for it.

>>12772624
>>12772770
Spanner is the mod wrench, she was (is) a huge Kanae fangirl and notable fans get wrenches in his chat.

>>12772841
>Marine's graduation announcement
Tons of viewers if Marine can milk it.

>>12772841
>free portion online part for a paid concert where not only is there dress code and special merch, but you get to be interviewed by Fuwa Minato
Eh. It will do better than the two Halloween time concerts but I do not expect anything crazy. Feel free to spam "wow he lost" when it doesn't reach #1 though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EiIgE6RZ7gE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SvarR1zE74
Sana's return frames are up. What can we expect? I believe she can do 25k on her karaoke stream and 18k on her zatsudan.

>>12772245
It's new to me having my fav being the bottom of a group.

>>12771582
Honestly I blame her design. The hair curling up on the sides is just too much, sort of like Sana's weird balls, it's the one design element that catches your eye in a bad way and pushes you away at first glance.

>>12772496
>>12772587
I mean I know about Luna but I doubt any of them would do it just out of pride, even if the branch itself continued to spiral down as more waves get pumped into the system (unless I'm vastly overestimating them). I know Rosemi did but even I doubt she'd be rratfaced enough(heh) to do that entire song and dance again. Wave 3 shouldn't even bother and just stay put since none of them are good enough to get past omegatrannie.

>>12773047
You fucker made me so worried!!!

>>12773121
Bro..
She didn't even get 20k on her streams while on Debut Buff
Karaoke = 10k
Zatsudan = 7k

>>12773121
>I believe she can do 25k on her karaoke stream and 18k on her zatsudan.
You're insane.

kiara trending
>>12773258
https://twitter.com/explore/tabs/entertainment_unified

>>12773225
>I know Rosemi did but even I doubt she'd be rratfaced enough(heh) to do that entire song and dance again.
Rosemi did what?

>>12773168
It's not the curl, I think the curl is fine. It's the fact that they tuck into her face.

>>12773225
Luna was looking to move on and she got what she wanted. It wasn't a blind popularity grab, Hololive was still behind Nijisanji by a mile at that point.

>>12773316
We talk about trends now? No mention of Korone trending?

>>12773315
Rosemi = Kirihime Ria from Tsunderia. She applied to NijiEN after she had already joined Tsunderia, and abruptly graduated 3mo later, probably after she got accepted into NijiEN.

>>12772782
They'd be able to pay off any contract termination fee easily with their earnings.

>>12773168
>Honestly I blame her design.
If IRyS can incline then Reimu can too, assuming she's entertaining and put in the work.

>>12773474
Just 3 months?
I know the story but i didn't know she abandoned her past life in just 3 freakin months after she joined

>>12773315
You can ask the Tsunderiafags here for amore in depth breakdown but the gist of it is that Rosemi "supposedly" fucked over Tsunderia by applying for NijiEn while still being relatively new to Tsunderia which put the company behind the 8 ball since they allocated a lot of their resources to her thinking she'd be the breakout star of her gen.

>>12773362

>Luna was looking to move on and she got what she wanted. It wasn't a blind popularity grab, Hololive was still behind Nijisanji by a mile at that point.

Absolute this. People would even say when she just debuted that she would leave again in a short time and let her fanbase alone. But she found a place to stay.

>>12773121
>9 am EST
>mostly English
>bad singer
>it's Sana

Ain't happening. She'll be happy to get 8-12k.

>>12773587
Yeah, 3mo. Ria debut 12/20, Ria graduation announced 3/29, graduated 4/4

>>12772430
>Nina is also 6K over Millie in SCs. It's clear she's outperforming the rest of them.
Well, that's true. More than that, for the period Wave 3 is monetized Nina has the third largest superchat amount of all of the NijiEN girls.

Here are the numbers:

>$26,031.00 :: Elira
>$19,686.00 :: Nina
>$18,887.00 :: Pomu
>$17,374.00 :: Selen
>$13,335.00 :: Millie
>$12,829.00 :: Enna
>$11,389.00 :: Reimu
>$9,396.00 :: Rosemi
>$5,879.00 :: Finana
>$5,484.00 :: Petra

>>12773075
What's your floor and peak predictions?

>>12773121
Her last karaoke only got 10k. I don't see her getting more than 15k.

>>12773631
>>12773362
>>12773225
If i'm not mistaken, Luna was bullied out of Nijis by gatekeepers right?
Glad she's doing well today

>>12773689
>>12773599
That is incredibly shitty of her but i also can't blame her since getting into Nijisanji is a big opportunity

>>12773706
For reference of magnitude, Kiara made $31,634.00 in the same period.

>>12773802
Her last one was also at a more reasonable time for ENs, I think it was like 3-3.5 hours later than this one.

>>12773820
What do you mean, she left Nijisanji to go to Hololive and had a history of leaving/reincarnating several accounts, her track record is long before she became Luna.

>>12773820
Luna wasn't bullied, she just wasn't happy with the results she was getting and jumped at a better opportunity. There's really nowhere to jump to from Hololive so she's not going anywhere now.

>>12773706
>>12773847
And Calli, $45,376.00

>>12773867
Ohhh is that so??
I did research about her when i found out about Aloe.
And some says niji gatekeepers bullied her for getting close with a famous niji

>>12773867

She was doing really well in Niji tho. Miles above compared to her other accounts. The rrats started exactly because she leave in a incline moment to join Holo that at the time was not as big as Niji.

>>12773984
Luna had the track record of changing accounts but the bully arguments on Niji are real, just not as much in Luna's case.

>>12773978
And Kronii, $20,780.00

>>12774044
Maybe she was scouted and got a better contract from Hololive? Remember, contracts are a thing.

>>12773706
Nina has rich gachi?

>>12773721
AR concert day 1: 68k
day 2: can't find it
Niji rock: 28k
Initial step: 44k
Floor for Kuzuha: 40k
Peak: 60k - 70k
He will be completely by himself apparently so there's no buff of other people being there. It will be easier to know the peak once the waiting room gets closer. I'm only lowballing it because of the site for buying tickets also crashing when it went live to be bought.

>>12774158
Wasn't Kronii meant to be the new SC queen of EN? What happened?

>>12773820
What made it shitty is that Tsunderia basically gave her everything she asked for and wanted and then she dropped them at a moments notice.

>>12774311
Compared to the rest of her gen, she is.

>>12774311
She stopped being a soundboard.

>>12774311
Look at her schedule and she disable SC during SC reading stream iirc

>>12774311
Break

>>12774311
>>12774349
HoloCouncil hates money. Why?

>>12774311
She doesn't stream much.

>>12774364
>>12774381
>>12774413
Mori was still making a lot even on months she didn't stream much, though. And she didn't have SC open during SC readings either.

>>12774311
you cant get scs when you disable them

>>12774478
Mori is special. She makes $1k+ on watchalongs, collabs, and sponsored streams. I do not know why.

>>12774478
Very fair comparison, thank god you're not that holo vs holo anon

>>12774397
read the past threads timelooper

>>12768251
Yeah, Miko needs to grind long hours with buff games to beat Pekora. She had fantastic numbers yesterday but they were short streams. She had a long stream today but topped out at 18k. 18k is certainly not a bad number at all, its very good especially for a game like Portal, but its not enough to beat Pekora.

With that said I think Miko is the only one who really has a shot to eventually break Pekora's nearly 2 year long stranglehold at the top of hours watched. Marine and Gura will never put the hours in needed to do it.

>>12774614
Did I miss something? Were they just not money hungry?

>>12774311
She had 18 streams in the period Nina and Millie have 37

>>12772323
I feel that vtuber streaming is just a training before she becomes Niji. I believe IRyS and Ina do that too

>>12772245
Man, say what you want about NijiEN but they really do put work in.

>>12774478
Because even though Mori hasn't been streaming a ton she has been constantly coming out with new songs and just heavy hinted at another collab cover, this time with Milky Queen. Her fan base appreciates the hard work and showers her with appreciation when she does stream.

>>12774789
NTA, but yes, they weren't SC-hungry for some reasons. At first I thought it was just a trick to tease viewers for more SCs (similar to those "No! Stop! Don't bully me with SCs!"), but then Council members kept turning SC off during SC reading streams. That, coupled with the fact that some of them (not all, though) haven't been streaming as much as their Myth senpai do, lowered their SC revenue by quite a fair bit, I assume.
I've no idea what their game is. Maybe they are just fine with what they have right now. That doesn't make Holo numberfags happy, though

>>12774789
Long story short, Counil KNOWS they will make a ton of money regardless of their SCs (sponsorships, merch etc)

>>12771646
Kiara had that Phoenix revival stream.

>>12774953
Given that all 10 of them across the board stream a lot I feel like this was part of the interview process. Basically told them they're in a new branch and are expected to grind some streams at least for the first bit of their careers. Probably also filtered out anyone with a excuse for why they weren't gonna stream much (students, jobs ect). Someone like Pomu had to either point to their prior history or assure them she was gonna stream a lot.

Kiara's stream reminds me that we haven't see a ton of "endurance until x subs" since most of the Holos hit 1 million. I give her props for keeping the spirit alive for this time honored tradition. Its becoming a lost art.

>>12775212
My best guess: Myth told them that after a year their revenue structure is totally different and SC aren't that important, so don't let it dictate your chat/stream culture.

>>12770751
They gained hatred from the mainland chinks, but gained support from TW and Western bros. Yagoo's magic is literally black.

>>12775322
it's also just harder to gain subs in this era. A lot of people used to get 5k within an hour of starting a stream like this. Now it's a bit of a slog. If someone tried to do 10k they'd be streaming all day and still have a chance not to hit it.

>>12775222
Them not hustling for SCs makes me seethe since it is free money and they could get good numbers if they tried.
>sponsorships
And...?

>>12774953
They have to. Council can afford to coast because of the Hololive brand and it's insane level of box-pushing. Not to mention they don't even have to bait for SC's because of the other revenue streams made available to them by being part of HoloEn. So not only do they have a captive audience that isn't going anywhere anytime soon but they also have a steady revenue stream from sponsorships. NijiEn has no other option but to grind because if any of them ever tried to do a Kronii in terms of schedules, their viewership would tank. And without a steady revenue source outside of the measly merch that doesn't even get sold out for most of them, SC's are basically what keeps them going monetary wise. If nothing else, they remind me a lot of early Miko. If they do blow up in the future, then you can point to the fact that they hustled like crazy to get there. Management really does need to give them some form of guidance though since they still act alot like a bunch of indies.

>>12770751
I wonder how much you would literally have to pay an entire class of American High School Students to do this on video. Some would be cheap but you'd have holdouts

>>12775472
Quite a few vtubers have publicly said that SC is only a small portion of their income. Sponsorships and merch sales are way more important. Just look at Watame who funded her whole album and concert just from one merch run.
Sana in particular has already been getting commissioned by Cover for art.

>>12774044
She probably just didn't like her model.

>>12775694
Kson outright said SC is less than 50% of her revenue, and her SC are absolutely insane compared to her other numbers.

>>12771387
>Nina doing watchalongs will hamper her growth
She passed Millie to be the most subscribed in her gen. If it is hurting her, which it probably is, she can withstand it apparently. It’s only really hurting the average for live viewers for the purpose of a number thread.
>>12772245
>Gaining subs
Well it’s just a sign of Nina’s growth. The endless watchalongs simply hurt her average viewers.
>Here are their medians and averages
What are they if all the watchalongs were removed? Curious.
>>12773706
>$26,031.00 :: Elira
>$19,686.00 :: Nina
>$18,887.00 :: Pomu
>$17,374.00 :: Selen
>$13,335.00 :: Millie
>$12,829.00 :: Enna
>$11,389.00 :: Reimu
>$9,396.00 :: Rosemi
>$5,879.00 :: Finana
>$5,484.00 :: Petra
That’s actually interesting. I didn’t know how she would compare exactly with wave 1 and 2.

>>12775694
>>12775721
When ad rev and broken premium rev is your income, I can see why

>>12773706
how big is anycolor's cut?

>>12775721
Kson said she made 138k in a month.
And her being a fucking monster at getting donations means her percentage would be higher.
Now imagine someone like Pekora who has a constant stream of sponsors, merch and donations.
>>12775991
It's speculated to be 50% after Youtube takes their 30%.

https://www.youtube.com/c/MythiaBatfordCh/videos

HoloID killer.

>>12775694
Sana has it made either way, she doesn't count. Hololive is gravy for her and Cover seems to feel the same way.
You'd think a few NEETs who live with their parents and a grad student would hustle more. I was a grad student/TA and I made only $6.5k a semester.

Council isn't as big as Polka or Kson, there is no way they are getting that sort of money. They're either stupid or someone actually walked them through the revenue streams.

>>12775654
dont compare your western whores with Migo, nigger

>>12776069
Myth probably gave everyone in council a reality check on what to expect.
I recall one of the Myth girls said they talked to them for a month before debut.

>>12767790
2020-11-09 numbers

>>12775973
and memberships still likely makes more money than those two combined, many of them have over 10k members, the least about 5ks

>Ame Apex with 20k people
wtf

>>12776264
The pre-ccv change days were crazy.

>>12776069
>Council isn't as big as Polka or Kson
anon....

>>12776264
Why did we recline enbros?

>>12776468
Anonchama.
Polka was #2 at upd8 (behind Kizuna Ai), she has no money issues.

>>12776642
that`s not why Polka is loaded

>>12776642
Polka has work outside of Hololive she's obliquely referenced at times. Towa finding a character that sounded suspiciously like her in MHR was pretty funny.

>>12776264
The downfall of Iofi from holoID

10%+ dislike ratio. Nijiniggers, everyone.

>>12776916
Context bro.

>>12776264
>Korone and Aqua reclined
>Subaru and Suisei inclined
>Peko still a 30k shitter
>Miko still a 20k shitter
didn't really change that much. idk wtf happened to EN tho.

>>12777096
Bullying culture in the splatoon tournament.

>>12776916
cmon man it's just 150 dislikes, it's nothing.

>>12776494
>we
Nijiniggers don’t you have your own decline to talk about

i-is kiara gonna get 10k twice in a day??

>>12776916
Suisei had more with the IM@S collab. That's nothing.

>12771846
>It is very threatened

>>12771387
Pomu is the only NijiEN who regularly plays minecraft, and that's because she's totally addicted. All the other girls stopped playing, except for the Ethyria girls who have no experience with the game and keep destroying everything
https://streamable.com/2yzgh4

>>12777245
CCV algorithm change + vtubing fad in the west fading after 2 months of unsustainable growth

>>12774397
Who knows, council just seems to hate being successful in general. Seriously, one would think that after their incredible disappointing debuts when compared to their EN's senpai they would try harder to achieve something, instead, they somehow stream even less than myth did, can't even make sure that their game is installed or check if their mic has battery before the stream start.

How the fuck did Cover manage to go from myth to council is something that I will never understand, they probably had more than 10k applicants and somehow those 5 are the best that they could find?

>>12732897
Would be funny if VShonen and Wave 4 debuted near to each other and VShonen became the better male group. Then we'll have the situation where both male and female nijiEN group becomes a flop. Their sponsorships non-existant.

>>12776021
>>Kson said she made 138k in a month.
Is that before or after youtube and taxes?

>>12778073
From gen5schizo to en2schizo

>>12777096
Based on this >>12769090 is something about Maimoto's totsu

Both sana stream going to be counted as tomorrow stream right?
timezone hard

>>12776916
>>12777096
Context is Japan hates Hisupi and this is nothing new, they get angry any time she plays with senpais and jokes around with them. Also, during splatoon practice with her team, she was quiet as the team leader was teaching things, which also pissed schizos off. Why, who fucking knows. She is more hated than Shindo Raito on suki-kira.

>12778073
kek you sure are trying hard today, no [you] though, fag

>>12778190
Anon, that stream is November 4th and Maimoto's totsu happened today. If they were going to dislike anything after the totsu it would be her Nov 7th stream.
Go to her channel and check out any stream's dislike ratio.

>>12778199
they are going to count as the same day as fubuki and kiara

>>12778183
I'm no one schizo, I'm just incredibly disappointed in council. I hoped that they would be a match to myth, with at least one girl being able to give a Gura a run for her money subs wise, instead we got those 5.

>>12778240
don't understand the purpose of this post. Is it too much to just not reply? Passive aggressive

>>12778417
It's just a butthurt councilfag, you shouldn't be giving him a (you), it's exactly what he wants.

Hi, /#/. Some days ago an anon posted a graph map showing Hololive audience around the world. I checked the archives but just couldn't find it, does anyone have it?

>>12778474
if you don't want to give him one, then don't reply to him. Don't understand your post at all

>>12776753
Whatever happened to her?

Finana getting Selen numbers right now. I'm proud of this fish

>>12776059
Ogey

>>12778566
amongus

>>12778392
No one was ever going to match Gura no matter how great they were, unless they were like a real life celebrity that became a vtuber. That time is over.

>>12778594
Whats the difference with Honkai Impact and Genshin Impact?

>>12778073
Hiring based off of numbers and not passion and entertainment was not the way to go.

>>12778392
gen5schizo has ran out of material for shitting on gen 5 and has now moved onto Council. Give it a rest will ya?

>>12778774
Uhhhhhh.....well one is honkai, and the other....is genshin

>>12778793
They hired a 2view anon.

eh looks like some SEAnigger schizo woke up early today

Huh. Playlist trick works

>>12778190
Really shows the difference between the Hololive and Nijisanji fanbases. Hololive fans seemingly worship the Holo girls and they can do no wrong. If they fuck up they cycle through every excuse in the book to cope with it.

Nijisanji fans on the other hand are the perfect example of sweatly salty autistic spergs. Lashing out at their talents at the smallest real, or perceived, wrong doing. If you as much as look at Mito or Kuzuha without dogeza, calling them senpai, cutting your arms off, starving yourself for 7 days, and offering them a blood sacrifice you are worthless and will get hate brigaded.

>>12778793
If they had hired based on numbers Kronii, Fauna, and Bae would never have made in. Kronii was a literal 2 view and I have no hard number on how Fauna or Bae did CCV, but I doubt that either of them could even reach 1k in a good stream.

The only one I can see being a number hire was Mumei.

>>12778149
Why the fuck you account for taxes on a monthly basis? What is people’s obsession with taxes? No one talks about their salary or income and includes taxes. Is it just bitter poorfags?

>>12778838
I love gen5, what the fuck are you talking about? Hell Nene is probably my second or third favorite holo.

>>12778995
youre replying to bait

>>12778793
They hire based on voice, content, and compatibility with previous gens. All of their voices matches well with the model.

They hired a literal who in Baelz, so you can't argue that they only look at numbers.

They hired Kronii for VA niche, Fauna for ASMR niche, and Sana for being an artist.

Kronii gets along well with Gura due to both having PL related to youtube shitposting, Fauna is an admitted Gura fan, Sana is Ina's artist friend.

I'd say that Mumei could be the only numbers hire, but she's filling in the HoloEN Aqua role pretty nicely, and she works well with Kronii.

Baelz, I have no idea why they hired her, but she's the hardest worker of the bunch, so could be hired for passion and her voice fitting the model.

>>12778995
If you are looking at Kronii's old vtuber account you are looking at the wrong one. She had another account that was near Senzawa level. Fauna was also quite successful as well. Bae is the only actual 2view that they hired.

>>12779000
Taxes = money not in your pocket

>>12778981
This is why Vshojochads can't stop winning.

>>12779084
>Fauna was also quite successful as well.
Was she? I only know that her asmr channel only reached 100k subs well after she debuted in hololive.

>>12778981
Most Niji fans are fans of just one talent or maybe a small clique, they don't feel any real sense of loyalty to the other 200 members.

That doesn't mean Holo fans can't be dicks. See Guras fan spazzing out about Amogus translation with the ID girls, or antagonizing Fubuki when Gura hit 1M. Trying to make the Kronii/Bae thing into a big deal, or Haachama and Matsuri fans fighting each other over their interactions. It's just less common for everyone to dogpile one talent.

>>12779063
Thread is slow, I want to reply to bait.

>>12778392
If Council could have become a match for Myth, an extremely popular Holo group sharing the same market with more than a year to build their fanbase, within less than 2 months, they'd have to be some sort of God's gift to mankind in term of streaming (or it'd mean that Myth is actually terrible, which isn't the case).
Imagine if HoloJP6 is to debut tomorrow, do you really think that there is any chance that one of them would be able to pose a challenge to Pekora in term of CCV within 2 months?

>>12779074
Yeah, Bae has the least notable past life of any hire they have done for EN. Even Ame got considerably more views than her in her past life. Bae must have shown them something in the audition tapes that they REALLY REALLY liked. I'm happy about it since I think Bae is great.

>>12779128
You do know 100k subs is already successful for ANY independent content creator, right? Heck, 10k is already HUGE to make it a full time job.

>>12779000
Because I want to how much she actually made? You don't understand people being "obsessed" with something that can take well over 40% of their wage?

>>12779074
That's not really Bae's natural voice, she's doing one to try to fit the model, just like she gave fitting her personality/streaming style a shot for a while.

>>12779143
your posts give me second hand embarrassment

>>12779143
>Trying to make the Kronii/Bae thing into a big deal
Oh my god I actually forgot about that until I read your post. That was the dumbest shit ever and spergs just kept sperging until it spiraled out of control.

Well actually the 2nd dumbest over reaction. The dumbest is the Miko/Marine doujin incident by a long shot, lol.

>>12777445
kek

>>12778098
It wouldn't matter since they are on different platform. The same reason why trying to pit Hololive and VShojo against each others is pointless (unless one of them starts trying to approach the other's platform). NijiEN4 becoming YT VTuber kings and VShonen being their Twitch counterpart aren't mutually exclusive

>>12778981
>>12779143
You guys think all Nijisanji fans act like this when it's 150 fucking dislikes. You also think everyone on earth hates Hajime when he had a ton of support during his parts of the Wave 1 concert.

>>12779207
oh no it is a salty 2view

Wtf is Rushia and watame in a jump king race or something?

>>12778073
Realistically they probably only looked at 500 or so that made it through whatever program they filtered them through

>>12779337
yea

>>12777445
I mean that doesnt change that en decline too

>>12779259
>The dumbest is the Miko/Marine doujin incident by a long shot, lol.

I think that Pekora's period yabe take the cake, that one is a close second though.

>>12779300
I know what 2views look like. Fauna's roommate is not a 2view.
Heck Natori Sana broke into the main stream with only 100k subs. 100k subs is not 2views tier

>>12779232
It's just odd. If you were comparing the contracts of two athletes, or the concert sales of musicians, or the earnings of regular streamers no one would ever ask "well how much taxes do they pay". Whatever the maximum rate is for the country they live in, you can google it if you really wanted to know. And you know, social security, FICA, state sales tax, VAT, church tax, BBC license fee, whatever.

>>12779259
I think that was mostly outsiders being mad about that doujin thing, not actual Holo fans. Same with the janny stuff.

>>12779158
That's not what I meant, I didn't expect them to go from zero to 3.5 millions subs in 2 months, I did hope that they would be doing better or at least comparable to what myth was doing in the same time frame, so far the only that is doing that is Kronii and only if you compare her to Ina and Kiara. Hell, even she is still growing less than current Gura.

>>12779282
I don't even know who Hajime is. There's like a thousand Nijisanjis I know like 12 of them (other than the ENs).

>>12779486
Eh I doubt Kson is dumb enough to just take that revenue as income. In the us her Corp would would take the money and she would pay herself a modest salary. Not sure what the common tax structures are in Japan

>>12779486
People are dumb, if people weren't so dumb not only would they ask the value after taxes they would also adjust that for cost of living so you could actually compare what they make instead of what we do right now. Too bad that will never happen because we are a bunch of dumb and lazy apes.

10k streams in a day, nice

>>12779457
>he still believes she had 100k subs then as an indie, growing only to 103k at this very moment

>>12779457
>Fauna's roommate is not a 2view.

What was her CCV then? 100? 200?

>>12779603
Do you live under a rock and aren't aware of the December view change, the overall recession in EN vtubing, and the -200k initial sub cut to council? If Kronii debuted back when Gen 1 did she's probably fall somewhere between Mori and Gura in growth. She's still doing extraordinarily well for someone who streams as little as she does in this era.

>>12779249
The final round of the audition probably showcases the models and the girls have to show how they'll play them.

I think that the voice fitting the model is the most important thing that Cover looks for. Even Kiara with her voice debuff, I'd still say it somehow fits the model.

They don't really care if the personality doesn't fit the model, the fans will headcanon it away or call it gap moe.

>>12779786
Good thing I'm literally only talking about subs then, even if you count the amount that they lost to Susan being Susan council is still doing waay worse than myth did in the same time frame.

>>12779259
Kronii/Bae? Was that shipping drama?

>>12779772
she usually hovered around 500

Wow Finana about to hit 4k, she's never been this high before

>>12779880
Wouldn't that risk a leak of the designs from any of the girls that didn't make it? They probably get a description of the character type but I doubt they get an actual image until they're hired.

>>12779927
Not a 2 view, but still nothing amazing. Regardless the point is that she wasn't a number hire, there's no way that cover didn't have more than 5 girls with more than 500 views on average.

>>12779964
Is that a regular Honkai stream or is there some gimmick? New chapter that just came out? Gacha pulling?

>>12778995
>I have no hard number on how Fauna or Bae did CCV, but I doubt that either of them could even reach 1k in a good stream.
Fun fact - the only time Fauna got a stream with above 1k average viewers is when she got raided by Nyanners

>>12779998
Eh, they used to show the models when they announced auditions.

Kiara 1.25M + double 10K CCV with REFLECT
Power of the cunny ?

>>12780010
Some big emotional cutscene coming up. Plus nobody else streaming.

>>12780095
Ah, the one where someone died?

>>12779964
Wow this chapter really a buff huh

>>12779179
i think theres still more about bae that she still havent show

>>12779917
It was a collab on Bae's channel and Bae had to step away for a second so only Kronii was on stream. While Bae was away a bunch of super chats came in for Kronii mentioning her and talking to her. To be fair a part of the reason this blew up was due to Kronii's autism. Bae was fine with it but Kronii felt the need to profusely apologize and even rejoined the call after leaving to apologize again. That probably made it worse.

>>12780010
>almost the only honkers chuuba
>her honkai streams have gotten more and more popular
>huuuge scene in this stream
>no other NijiENs streaming at all
>almost no holo´s either
just a combo of inclining for the game and some really good timings at the same time. Lets hope these new viewers stay for her other streams

>>12780004
>nothing amazing
Is this like the Vtuber version of League Bronzies looking at Diamond replays and going "He's good, but Faker is better"; like, I like punching down on the 2 views and Nijiniggers from time to time too, but most people can only dream of getting of getting consistent 500+ viewers (that aren't bots)

>>12779074
>They hired Kronii for VA niche, Fauna for ASMR niche, and Sana for being an artist.

Too bad Kronii refuses to voice acting stuff nowadays, Fauna is mediocre at best in ASMR and Sana doesn't want to do drawing streams.

>>12780209
Her stream was shared on Honkai twitter so they're coming from there too, not sure that they'll stick around for non Honkai streams.

>>12778981
Holofags worship their vtubers and chastise company
Nijifags worship company and chastise their vtubers

>>12780325

Wasn't Lily a twitch streamer? A good chunk of that 500 were probably bots.

SHE HIT 4K, AMAZING!!

>>12780337
Council really is a joke.

>>12780399
SLOW AND STEADY BROS, WE'RE DOING IT

>>12779916
Kronii has 525k subs which is effectively 725. Mori hit 725k on November 29 after debuting on September 12th. 78 days. Kronii from August 22 to November 9th 79 days.

Amelia was at 690k Mumei is at 620. Ina/Kiara at 555, Bae/Fauna at 550. Same timespan. Obviously Gura's growth rate was insane and Sana is vastly underperforming but everyone else syncs up roughly as expected if not for the 200k cuts.

>>12780366
Very well said and 100% accurate

>>12780337
Kronii did a lot of voice acting last week while playing Opus

>>12780337
>VA doesn't want to VA
>Artist doesn't want to draw
Coasting on the brand-name.
Cover needs better competition in the EN sphere

>>12780060
Used to. They also used to hire minors and let people transfer in with their models ect. I doubt they do that anymore because revealing the models is a big part of the hype for a new gen.

>>12780478
I always trust the plan nijibros

>>12780572
That happened once and only after Suisei begged a lot.

>>12779603
Bro time to drop another pandemic that make people stay at home watching YT all day, that will inclined council just like what happened to myth

>>12780572
>let people transfer in with their models ect

That happened once and only after Suisei begged a lot.

why is she getting 4k playing this game?

>>12780716
Only person on the entire planet streaming atm.

>>12780716
Holy shit that already half of entire nijien audience pool! The fishe! She's doin it!!

>>12780477
>Obviously Gura's growth rate was insane and Sana is vastly underperforming but everyone else syncs up roughly as expected if not for the 200k cuts.

Sure, if you ignore the best myth and the worst council then yeah, they are roughly doing the same.

Kuzuha birthday actually trending on my twitter, or at least whatever the fuck "#葛葉誕生祭2021" means is showing a bunch of pictures of him with birthday messages. The only Niji I follow is Pomu and I never get JP Niji related stuff.

>>12780572
I hope that at least they aren't blacklisting people who collabed (or interacted too much) with HoloEN from being approved in the audition

>>12780716
Big emotional cutscene, no other NijiEN nor HoloEN streaming. Her chat is dominated by greys, so seems to be tourists just there for HI3

>>12780846
Never doubted the plan for a second nijisisters

>>12780716
Honkai players literally have no one else atm
But good for her, she needs good numbers now and then

>>12780861

If you're just butthurt that no one blew up like Gura and Sana sucks, that's fine, but don't suggest that the whole gen is lagging behind and being completely outclassed when they aren't and have growth and view rates that match or exceed Myth members.

Did Lize and Kanae already play this genshin chapter? The two known as their genshin stream right? That could boost their number

>>12780865
That is his tag. Trended when the clock hit midnight.
Later today his concert tag is #葛葉BDライブ however they don't allow screenshots due to the venue.

>>12780865
nijisister too strong..

Kson 996K PARRA 994K

>>12781020
>Trended when the clock hit midnight.
I wonder how much anycolor pays for shit like this.

>>12768448
wait, really?

Buckle up holobronies!
King's birthday after a year of inclining is commencing upon you.
What numbers are we expecting?
His simple tweet about being a birthday boy already surpassed 80k likes/

>Kronii refuses to do VA
the state of this thread.

>>12780980
>but don't suggest that the whole gen is lagging behind and being completely outclassed when they aren't and have growth and view rates that match or exceed Myth members.

The whole gen lagging behind myth is exactly what is happening, no matter how you try to slice it, be it the average, median, top or low myth is doing better in absolutely everything when compared to council subwise and it's not like we can compare views thanks to Susan fucking everything.

>>12781109
PARRA?

>>12781117
If you mean the midnight thing you do know that's when people celebrate birthdays right, he was also on Twitcast to 20k+ people.

>>12780980
You should always aim for exponential increase anon-chama.
Myth had a member get 1 mil in 1 month, therefore there should have been a Council member who got 1 mil in 1 week. No one did, therefore the whole gen was a failure

>>12781149
My knees are ready, I've shitposted Kuzuha so much that I'm now actively rooting that he gets the gold after what happened last week

>>12781020
>don't allow screenshots
That's the dumbest shit I've heard.

>>12780528
What they need to do is to stop hiring lazy fuckers that can't even check if the game is installed or if their mic is working before starting the stream and can actually stream for more than 15 hours a week.

>>12781149
yawn

If he does end up winning the day its just another hyped Niji event that gets a lot of tourists. They can't just win the day with regular streams like Hololive can. Although I'm going to laugh when he is beaten by the secret Ayame stream that is totally going to happen.

Today's superchats

>12781246
EN3 will have 1M subs in their debut day! Trust the cover scouting department

Insane gachikois

>>12781178
Userlocal puts him in the subs ranking ( non convert), so he can count as the next million candidate

>>12781246
>>12781283
Wow, you are still going? Calm it down gen5schizo, you aren't fooling anybody.

>>12781271
This is how Zepp concerts operate.

>>12781316
Nothing new when it comes to male vtubas.

>>12781308
>birthday man beaten by.. Nene!

>>12781316
>>12781397
Is this what Suisei did when her Ensta oshi having birthday? I-

>>12781308
Pity cash for the dog?

>>12781451
>I-
Where the fuck did you come from and why are you here?

>>12781397
Actual mental illness. Good to know that Hololive has much more sane fans.

Holo has won 4 days in a row, Nijisanji needs to win some time.

>>12781397
meanwhile...

>>12781486
No they don't. I hope they never win again.

>>12781397
Why do all nip women like the emo aesthetic vtubers

>>12781397
That's some serious dedication, I'm impressed and envious. You win this one nijiniggers.

>>12781521
nijifriend, don't make me post the nijivirgins

>>12781542
Anon....even Holostars get this treatment.

>>12781521
Absolute CHADS

>>12781542
Shien and Miyabi are way smaller than Kuzuha and they still get displays where the gachi rents a love hotel and wine bottles just to pose with merchandise.

>>12781486
This does not slip, amirite? Well, In any case, tonight is a strong one between Kuzuha and Marine. Marine's announcement might not be so strong, but if she did a zatsudan leading up to the announcement, I can see it grow past 50k.

>>12781560
They do? Can you show some examples? I certainly haven't seen it

>>12781352
Anon, Watame did a concert at Zepp Tokyo and they had 0 issues with screenshots.

>>12781607
Any idea of what the announcement is?

>>12781651
Niji just wants to sell you a photobook which is why they aren't allowing screenshots. Fan interaction be damned, Niji wants that money!!

>>12781659
Another break probably.

>>12781709
How do they even disable screenshots?

Or do they just ban posting those screenshots?

>>12781659
Update of the upcoming concert???

>>12781709
Isn't that how Theme Parks get their money? No pictures allowed in any of the rides, but they'll be more than happy to sell you one.

>>12781629
Infamous shiensis (who also did this for Mori)
>>12781751
You can't, they just say "DON'T DO IT"

>>12781397
This reminds me of that blonde bitch from Hey Arnold.
She had a shrine for him too.

>>12781659
It's not an outfit reveal or particularly large announcement. She's a numberfag, so she'd keep the large ones after gen 3's concert so it's probably either a cover song or a collab with a cafe or something.

Announcement tier list:
>Graduation (Yabe)
>Break (Used/Okay)

>Concert/Sololive (Best)
>Outfit reveal (Good)
>3D live (Good)
>Collab/Music release (Okay)

>>12781397
>>12781828
Mental illness

>>12781330
I get it now, I didn't know about this VTuber existence so I thought that PARRA was a typo

>>12781659
maybe some sponsor she was looking for

>>12781815
Someone post that WebM lol

>>12781828
Miyabi, there's one who had a red room and couch but I can't find it, not sure if it was for his bday.

>>12781828
>>12781905
Idk if I'm desensitized to weeb culture in general, or I just don't care, because Waifu Shrines don't even faze me anymore

Heck, I'm planning on making a Gura Shrine myself

>>12781316
>>12781397
>>12781828
So female gachikois > male gachikois?

>>12781997
That's been true forever anon.

>>12781397
>>12781521
>>12781828
>>12781905
Even I don't go this far, and I only have a Rem wallpaper in my room. What are they going to do with those badges?

Honestly, I don't understand those who buy these kinds of cheap disposables or the reason why they were created in the first place. I'd rather have a hoodie with a logo on the chest like that myth hoodie.

>>12782063
The Hololive bros out on the sidewalk are much more awesome than any of the dumb females. They are showing their dedication out in public while the females are tucked away in some shady rented hotel room. HoloCHADS win again bros.

>>12779084
>She had another account that was near Senzawa level.
Not close. Only Mumei's account did.

so this is the future of hololive huh
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aiFpwXRkXGs

>>12781997
This has always been the case in terms of money spent per gachikoi.
Look at the total # of SCs Kanae and Kuzuha get and compare them to the # of SCs hologirls get around their ranking.
They get a significantly lower number of SCs but comparable total $ because their gachikoi are pulling their weight and dropping akas every time.
The most popular Hologirls usually end up with most SC because they have more gachikois and a lot of them that SC regularly, but when the females splurge on Nijimale celebrations, they go hard.

>>12781997
those are fancy rooms but they don't have SOUL like the boys' gachikoi rooms.

>>12782224
bintroll too strong.

>>12781993
>>12782063
It's something otakus have been doing for almost a decade so it doesn't weird me out. Girls like plastic things and shrines. The warrior ones Love Live bros used to do a lot got really popular. Acrylic stands and buttons are mass produced for this purpose. There's something called itabagging, where you buy dozens of pins, an expensive bag, and meet up and show them off. Naraka herself has spent over a million yen on her own ones. You've all seen that Tatsunoko room that's wall to wall covered with Coco too, and the Tatsunoko was male.

>>12780366
Are you serious when Yagoo exists?

>>12782200
This is Hololive if they went niji's route.

Fortunately, yagoo had a smart idea and made gens using K-ON's model

>>12782313
At worst, Yagoo is seen as incompetent.
Blaming Cover or management happens all the time.

>>12782313
Nta but Yagoo is a joke

>>12782200
>>12782322
Both companies have had concerts.

>>12782313
Yagoo is the butt of the joke everyone, even Sora does. Sure, the old man has charisma but everyone still makes fun of him and even worse when something bad happens.

>>12782313
Yagoo is loved because he's a nice guy and a funny meme, but people roast the fuck out of Cover for every fuck up, minor or major.
Shitty 3D quality? Fuck Cover.
Shipping costs being ridiculous and merch taking months to arrive? Fuck Cover.
Girls not getting the support they need for projects? Fuck Cover.
Costume delay? Fuck Cover.
Girls being restricted from doing content by management? Fuck Cover.
Can't get permissions for games? Fuck Cover.

To be fair, most of these deserve criticism, but people separate Yagoo from Cover all the time.

>>12768448
who?

>>12775667
>I wonder how much you would literally have to pay an entire class of American High School Students to do this on video.
Hololive doesn't pay people to do this. They do it out of passion. So if a high school were to do it, it will be out of genuine love for the girls.

>>12782200
Damn, I miss my kami-oshi Mayuyu... Wish her all the best wherever she is

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECkxzFgbJqQ
Kinda slipped under the radar since people didn't expect much from a MV for a month-old song that didn't really chart well, but Ayame is on track to getting 800k views on her original song in the first week.

That's pretty fucking good for an original song that has already been on music streaming platforms for a month already. It's Suisei-level.

I don't even know what's the song's name in English.
>it's going to beat Contrail soon