/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

ccv + sc
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://overseas.live-ranking.com/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/total-ranking/youtube
>https://www.dousetu.com/daily_ranking/
>http://v-ana.com/
>https://playboard.co/en/

Hololive
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://twitter.com/holo_data
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://mipacd.github.io/chat-stats/excl-chat.html
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html

Nijisanji
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings

>>12716241
>Most musicians live
>like Tupac
kek

Anyway, you're right. Two others notable ones that did likewise in most of the 2000s
>Madonna
>Rolling Stones

Royalties, residuals, appearance fees, none of that mattered for them, only spamming world tours after world tours to collect that sweet concert cash

>>12716252
Ban her from playing any competitive collabs ever again.

>>12716117
The cover probably

>>12716198
Bamco loves Hololive these days.

>Watame sololive
>Suisei sololive
>Sankisei live
>Sora sololive
>Aqua sololive
That's a lot of concerts. I guess Fes 3 won't be on this year...

Apparently, there's a 3D live with 7 livers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kTiZjKZ8cw

Aqua is reclining hard

Holy shit Kiara got sponsored to play SMT V

>>12716440
>birthday 3D live
>guests
>12.6k
Manji...

>>12716440
No wonder no one talked about it, shit 3d numbers from supposedly top company

>>12716475
wtf

>went to haachama's pre-stream chat
>only 2 deleted
Why would shitposters lie to me??!

>>12716475
Oh my fucking god, literally the worst RPG player, and they're having her tackle one of the more difficult series...
Gods she's gonna suffer.

>>12716475
Is this big?

>>12716490
need to beat marine 28k to get top 5..

Reposting from last thread

Now that I think about it, Aqua has constantly been on the receiving end of the stick this year.
>Loses MK tourney to Suisei
>Failed her Apex solo master challenge
>Loses sleep and ends up missing a scheduled project due to this
>Lost half of her income (alongside FBK and Suisei tbf) due to chink crisis
>Probably also lost tons of planned projects and sponsors
>A colleague had to graduate because of that and she's too autistic to back her up. probably due to self-imposed guilt and not wanting to alienate her remaining chink fans
>Sololive gets cancelled due to 'DDOS'
>Had to take a hiatus for mental well-being
>As a result, her numbers went on a decline
>Prepped for PVP at sports fes with high expectations only to get mopped 3 times in a row while also being a disruption for the event as a whole
>No positive thing that happened to her this year comes to mind
>Doesn't even get any saviour fags for the trouble
How would /#/ save akwa?

>>12716389
Okay now her contents are just FOMO and utawaku since she doesn't do collab very well or at all. How does this help?

>>12716475
IT'S TRUE, ATLUS!!! PERSONA PERMS!

>>12716543
It means they got perms from atlus

>>12716427
>Gen 1 live
>forgotten
weakest gen...

>>12716475
ATLUS FINALLY SUCCUMBS TO COVER

>>12716543
Yes, not only is atlus notoriously cagey about permissions, but smt 5 is pretty much THE big jrpg of the year

>>12716475
>made by Atlus
mori....

>>12716475
Why in the fucking hell would they pick her over Mori?? Hell even Ina would do a better job

>>12716475
>dev: Atlus
>plat: Nintendo
>pub: A, N, & Sega
3 birds in one stone

how do Bamco feel about this?

>>12716574
Not necessarily. It means that they're at the very least in 'Hey, we like you enough to get you to shill our game' territory. Now, if they actually confirm they have perms for other Atlus games, then that's pretty big.

>>12716592
>>12716574
>>12716475
Sooo Uhhh, Is this a Major Sponsorship? Sorry i don't know the game

>>12716475
Oh shit, Atlus is finally kneeling?

>>12716574
Holy shit... Persona permissions for Mori! Do it now Atlus you fucks!!!

>>12716612
Kiara positioned herself to be the JRPG streamer of the group.
Mori might make a sudden schedule change as well, who knows.

>>12716628
tl;dr yes

>>12716574
doubt it 100% means perms yet but its a step in the right direction

>>12716604
>THE big jrpg of the year
bigger than ToA?

>>12716619
Probably pretty good to have gotten Kiara to shill Tales.
>>12716628
Y e s.
SMTV is ATLUS's 1st FLAGSHIP series, the second one being the 'spinoff' line SMT: Persona (which took off with Persona 3)

>>12716557

>How would /#/ save akwa?

Even with a decline she still was top 10 in October for overall CCV
Why she would need to be 'saved'

>>12716657
Basically, yes. It's a new game shilled back on EA showcase. I forgot. That's not the main thing though everyone is excited about, they could finally get persona perms if atlus bless them.

>>12716657
Y E S.
SMTV has been in the works for years, whereas Tales of Arise is simply the latest tales game.

>>12716387
Stadiums and other large venues are absolute money sinks that cost you every second they are empty. A large stadium in America only costs 20-30k to rent for four hours. Often the stadium already has services/contractors available for concessions, janitorial, box office, etc and you split some costs like insurance. As a very broad generalization you can rent an actual stadium with staffing and other costs included for 100-200k for a four hour event. That’s not chump change obviously, but these 3k venues Cover is using is a tiny fraction of an actual football stadium. A medium to large club is more like 3-5k for rental, 20-30k total for all expenses. That is fucking chump change they get that selling light sticks and towels. Even in the age of streaming live concerts are where the real money is

>>12716679
because you need to learn to not reply to obvious shitposters

>>12716679
because she isn't in the top 5, she was nijikiller for fuck sake also i need meds

>>12716475
Well that's exciting , atlus sponsorship and what not. But don't count on general permissions just yet and watch her have shit numbers too, its a jrog stream.

>>12716679
because she was top 5 (arguably top 3 with Pekora/Marine) last year. at this rate she'll be averaging <10k next year

>>12716574
>Nintendo
>Capcom
>Microsoft
>Square Enix
>Sega
>and now atlus
Who's the next company to kneel?

>>12716612
That means sponsors not only look at numbers but the passion for games like Kiara's love to JRPG

>>12716734
>nijikiller
Didn’t it mean “beating Mito” back then?

>>12716751
Fromsoft.

>>12716751
Fromsoft

>>12716475
does this mean Pekora can play Atlus games too? The numbers would be amazing.

>>12716741
>at this rate
shes been on those stable for at least 3 months, timelooper

>>12716755
>passion
I guess they blacklisted Mori

>>12716765
one would think getting atlus permissions is much harder than getting fromsofts

>>12716751
Tencent

>>12716763
basically the whole company. she was also gets the most SC in HL before Coco. In addition to income from BiliBili in which she was the most popular alongside FBK and Suisei

>>12716791
Cover hasn't released a statement that they've reached a 'comprehensive agreement' or whatever it is to indicate they have global permissions for all Atlus games. Until such a thing happens, no.
However, Pekora is both 'good enough' and entertaining enough to pull off what Kiara can't, and that's pull 20k+ on jRPG streams.

>>12716791
Good games for her weekends, make it happen Atlus

>>12716791
eh, most rpgs are regular numbers for pegor

>>12716802
Okay, atlus is harder. Fromsoft is being a bitch for giving perms to niji, not holo. But Konami... Konami needs to be a big boy and stop relying on Niji.

>>12716440
This was i'm going say in the last thread. WTF nijisanji??? She used to be compare to noel until the man paring shit and then....

>>12716830
She is still busy with her sponsorship stream at weekend.

>>12716796
that was before her absolute embarrassment in the sportsfes (which she gets about half the ccv she had last year, probably will be halved again next year if she does another PoV)

>>12716751
Sony

Pekora at 24k despite not starting the game yet.
>Also overlapping Lamy Announcement and Miko playing the same game

>>12716475
HOLY SHIT
ORANGE WOMEN GOOD
ATLUS FINALLY BENDS THE KNEE

jezas pekora 24k and didnt even start the game yet

24k already on pekkers.

>>12716797
Nah more like Mori likes relatively niche rpgs but her audience maybe not. I doubt her music audience cares about them whereas Kiara has already hard filtered anyone who isn’t interested. Also BN was obviously very happy and Cover might have some good metrics to use.

>>12716751
KonamiI just want Pekora to play Revengance already

>>12716475
I'll forever kneel if they get Persona permissions because of this.

>>12716755
>>12716641
I guess SMT is a JRPG, but it does feel different in a way, doesn't feel the type that Kiara would normally enjoy. Has she ever played any Atlus game before even? Oh well, I hope after all this time she's learned to at least learn the game she's gonna shill and not make too much of an idiot of herself.

>>12716896
Miko seems to be at the losing end of the overlap.
will Pekkers beat Aqua's 50k?
the shitposting will be horrible

>>12716915
>>12716908
>>12716896
If Miko and Lamy might actually finish early. Pekora have a chance of getting 40k

>>12716829
In any case, they got perms for SMTV at least, so be prepared that Pekora is gonna play it or at least get sponsored to play it in the weekends.

>>12716937
It would be hilarious if Kiara fucks it up and Cover loses the Atlus perms.

>>12716915
too strong

>>12716691
That'd be great but I wouldn't bet on it, this feels like them being given very limited permission when the game is out but no more, just like with Pokemon

Kanata posted a second wave of Sportfes pictures at reddit, this time for HoloID.

>>12716955
its JP prime time, Miko got 42k overlapping with Marine. I think Pekora can do 50k-60k if illegal view funneling is in play

>>12716895
you should look at total views instead of fake spamviewshit ccv, anonchama. They are close and her recent one pov is still growing in views

>Holos mogging nijis all day today
>7 25k+ streams
>Sololive announcement
>Atlus bends the knee
>Bamco sponsoring the sololive
Holocaust redemption arc

>>12716557
Akua... My poor Akua...
Imo though
>for now focus on her sololive, keep her streaming rate like this for now is alright since she has a very obvious reason to stream less.
>after the sololive, drop most of her idol stuff if possible, or at least reduce it to a manageable amount of time.
>actually play games again, preferably non-competitive ones, or just focus on story mode/campaigns/goofy games
>branch out. Subaru would be a good place to start, they're genmates and have been in same projects together, she's also very easy to get along with.
>nikisei. Hardly any unity nowadays, bringing attention back to this particular gen would surely help.
>then Hololive, stop being fucking solo all the time. Attempt collab with other branches, preferably EN that is able to speak Japanese, Umisea members are fine too.
>interact. Ayame has a strong presence despite hardly streaming and that's because other members constantly brings her up, and Hologra. Actually interact with them so there's something to talk about you other than just "Aqua is shy, again, for the 28th time we've met"
This is asking a lot obviously and she probably doesn't need saving to begin with, but one can hope.

>>12717015
The audience can't be watching the same game over and over again right?

>>12716937
Kiara.
Learning game systems before playing.
Ha.
ha. ha.
ha ha ah ahahahahahahahahaha
No.
She's gonna die and be a bloody idiot because her ability to learn is predicated on brute-forcing things, and oh boy that's a PAINFUL way to try and learn SMT mainline. SMT IV had an early boss that basically smashed your face in unless you learnt how to use smirk etc iirc.

>>12716475
Why give it to a 2view member?

>>12716955
miko 20k lamy 10k
both have member stream and will end in 30 mins
if funnel to pekora it can easily go pass 50k

>>12717040
>Bamco sponsoring the sololive
wait what? is this true?

>>12717049
Same game but viewers wants to watch reactions of the members

>>12717043
I don't watch aqua but coming from your suggestion, She sounds like what Pekora wouldve been if she didnt go full autist numberfag.

>>12717054
SMT IV was my first SMT game.
I got my shit kicked in so hard.
Past the first dungeon it was relatively easy.

>>12717080

>>12717049
This!
Pekora playing this game (before miko and okayu) at primetime with no major overlaps might reach 50k+

But tonight? She'll be having a hard time breaking 40k.

>>12717067
Better than giving it to some 2view JP

>>12717049
implying they watch holo for the games kek
they watch pekora for pekora

>>12717076
inb4 Pekora plays too quickly and miss the funnelSo far she has been stalling welll though so she probably knows.

>>12717118
That is not the sponsor. That is the list of contractors for the sololive.

>>12716937
I'm both happy and sad about the news. I'm happy Kiara got more work but after watching her play the d2 remaster, I'm not very confident about her playing something not very casual. I hope Wamy plays smtv. She played d2 too and even though she was also a complete noob, she was fun to watch. Shame her pc couldn't take the game it seems, I wanted to see her fight Duriel.

>>12717127
She's already at 33.5k though.

>>12717067
Because she has an audience that will actually buy the game like with ToA.
SMT has been fucking referred to as a Persona spin off by retarded game journalists.

>>12716967
Can't lose something you don't have.

>>12717154
Lamy just bought a $7500 PC so it will be fine.
>>12717162
I bet it's western game journos.

>>12716829
Why would Atlus let Pekora play SMTV and pull attention away from Kiara who they specifically chose to promote the game?

>>12717118
not sponsor but at least they are working together

>>12717208
because japs dont watch kiara

>>12717208
better numbers and probably better gameplay quality. Also Jap viewers

>>12717230
They don't need to promote the game in Japan.

>>12717179
copechama...

Pekora could pull 70k for her FFX ending, why would atlus not pick her for a JRPG stream...

>>12717208
cause Kiara appeals to ENfags and Pekora to JPfags?

>>12717128
But pekora isnt a 2view no?

>>12717252
Reminds me, Bamco did not sponsor Suisei for ToA

>>12717049
>>12715521

>>12717237
They'd just be shooting themselves in the foot, even Bamco was smart enough to appoint Kiara as the official Tales ambassador rather than dilute the attention.

>>12717243
neither Sega or Capcom and they still asked for the bunny

>>12717252
sorry rabbit is already scheduled for 15 more lost judgement streams. Mel is available however if you're not too keen with the bird

>>12717280
Both series are respected in Japan.
They’re literal who’s in NA compared to their Japanese counterpart.
Even Moona got a ToA sponsorship.

>>12717127
Are you ready to kneel anon? She's already at 38k.

>>12717208
Because she can promote it to a larger audience? Remember pekoras makaimura stream?

>>12717311
Pekora is getting 25k+ despite playing Judgement for over a month now... she's the ultimate JRPG holo...

Za ramy really likes her 3Dhome huh

we just want to support doog

>>12716802
Yeah but fromsoft hates hololive for some reason
Then again, so did capcom so

>>12717252
Or maybe Atlus has the actual data provided by Cover and know that HoloMyth is more popular with SMT's target demographic?

>>12717336
based dog bro

30 minutes until Pekora will once again reminds everyone why she's the top ace of Hololive

Pekora might beat Aqua after Miko ends, what the FUCK

>>12717243
Do you really beleb that kiara have a reach outside from her 4k unironic weeb watcher

40k get for peckers

>>12717101
First dungeon is always the hardest in most JRPGs, sure final dungeon might be typically harder but at start you barely have anything to work with. This is especially worse in an Atlus game, not just SMT but even Etrian Odyssey first dungeon floor can kick your ass.

>>12717393
She was the most popular Tales of Arise streamer by a large margin.

Where's the king...

>>12717243
Pekora doesn't even play FFXIV and yet she'll be in the launch event

>>12717311
her afternoons are scheduled. Night prime time on the weekends are usually free (and very expensive)

>>12717342
>Yeah but fromsoft hates hololive for some reason
what proof do you have about this anon? If you are talking about the lack of permissions then that does mean shit, if anything I would bet they will get it a month before ER release, just like with MH

>>12717351
We are talking about Kiara. Not Myth. Her TOA numbers were very bad. I think Pekora has more foreigners watching her play Judge's eye than the collective amount of CCV that Kiara ever accrued for all of her TOA streams. She's also playing it SEA friendly time. Not EU nor EST friendly

>>12717404
>they'll get tired seeing same game 3 times in a row they said, she wont get the number they said
show em rabbit!!

>>12717415
??? Suisei

>>12717415
No, suisei is

>>12717333
I'm still impressed that Pekora has a hidden talent at presenting any games as long as it has a good story. And she has a knack of playing games as optimized as possible without missing good meat. I've been checking the gameplays with other holos and she is always 1 or 2 streams faster than others at finishing long games(the streams are relatively longer though, but it would be interesting to see numberfagging to those).

>holos have 3 (three) 40K+ streams in a single day

>>12717311
Is she far from finishing that game?

hey pekora can you finish your game already please

>>12717477
>>12717311
She is almost halfway, won't be surprised if she tries to finish it next weekend by going overtime.

>>12717477
Side quests

>>12717473
I declare this day as the Holoday

>>12717477
She's already at chapter 8. Lost judgement has 13 chapter so she's pretty close at finishing the game.

migo 30k get for the second time today

>>12717473
>Four 35k+ streams
>Three of them are Evil God Korone

>>12717494
All of this agressive shilling and partnerships, and yet she still lags heavily behind a tako that barely puts in any effort kek
Being Kiara is pain

>>12717494
I saw some anons saying she also got a Elden Ring sponsored stream, is this actually true?

Kneel

>>12717524
>>12717473
ILLEGAL GAME FUNNELLING

So ... How long can we use the post-MC Sportfes buff to justify this literal mogging?

What happened with Nijisanji today? Is there no one else taking on Hololive?

>>12717442
I think Kiara accounted for something like a third of all the total English language ToA stream hours watched and had more ccv than all the other ambassadors combined. She’s only small compared to Myth.

>>12717530
Please no unless it's a german only stream. That I'll understand.

>>12717530
Won't be surprised considering fucking Siro who can barely get 1k ccv in her streams get to present it.

>>12717473
k-king save us from holo domination!

>>12717442
It’s targeted advertisement anonchama.
Kiara has a known JRPG liking audience who are more likely to buy the game compared to say Gura’s audience.

>>12717537
I only saw Mr.Koro...

>>12717537
wait, I saw Aqua at 50k wtf?

>>12717537
What a fucking strong day for Holos!

Mr. Koro, I Fucking Kneel! I'll even lick your dirty boots if you want (also your body)

they are saving marine's play of korogame for tomorrow arent they. Any chance she could beat pegor?

>>12717537
Mr. Koro is the MVP of the day

>>12717604
Probably, Pekora is sharing this time with Miko. Maririn by herself could probably get to 50k.

Miko is done, illegal view funneling soon. If Pekora gets them she can break 50K.

>>12717594

It got 50k but the live ranking sometimes don't update fast enough and misses the total number

Nijibros…

>>12717628
Ah ok, just like vnuma then

And the funneling to Pegora begins

Let the illegal funneling commence...

Marketers do not always go for pure numbers. They’ve commented about this extensively: a streamer with a huge viewer base by definition has a large chunk that isn’t into your content. They are harder to deal with and manage, tend to be less responsive to communication and less willing to cater to your requests. Gura has a massive audience but what percentage care about relatively (compared to western gaming in general) obscure JRPG titles? You think her greynames are going to buy Persona or SMT? Kiara has already hard filtered her audience. They can pay her less and she’ll feature their content for literally dozens of hours. It’s all in the details of the contract and units sold/marketing dollar.

>>12717546
They had a 3d live collab with several livers that didn't even get 20k (I'm not even sure if they broke 15k)

>>12717632
>almost 29k by literally only talking
Marin...

Can the sexy bunny surpass Aqua's 3D live?

>>12717655
I'm a chumbud, but ended up buying ToA from Kiara shilling. The game was great. Doesn't really matter who shills it, as long as within hololive.

>>12717655
>pay her less
get real anon, this is the main reason they dont always go for the biggest names

>>12717632
Miko could've win today.
Okayu should've played this tomorrow for a sure gold medal.
Let Wednesday go to Kuzuha since its his birthday
Pekora should've played this on Thursday for a sure gold medal.

>>12717672
Marine is zatsudan master like Subaru

>>12717672
And it’s not enough to break top five. Whew what a day for numberfags everywhere

>>12717581
Retard. The person that draws the most person in that timelslot are people like Pekora. Be it global or local. Kiara's numbers is a drop when playing JRPG for any audience.

>>12717685
I mean she's already at 48.3k. Its possible

>>12717672
sleep deprivation buff

>>12717494
That is a screenshot and a half.
Oii Bamco you sponsored Gura's Taiko, make her an official partner too.

>>12717715
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA STOP THE COUNT

>Pekora+Koro-san is gonna beat Aqua's 3D + Announcement at this point

>>12717715
STOP THE COUNT

ONION MOGGED
Pekora can't stop bullying her kek

>>12717690
Idiot. Obviously cost matters but it’s one factor of many. This isn’t a secret it’s been openly discussed at length by many sources.

>>12717655
So what you are saying is Kiara was cheaper than Pekora?

>>12717715
AAAAH AQUA DON'T LOOK

>>12717715
bunny is going erect!

>>12717728
Done

A particularly strong day for Hololive. The MC Sports Fes buff has positively affected HoloJP the most, giving us fantastic numbers. I think HoloEN might have received some buff too, seeing how their numbers yesterday were quite high.

akua...

Welp

aqua mogged..

>>12717710
That's just cope, Kiara's audience is more faithful and targeted towards people who will actually buy JRPGs and the marketers know it.

>>12717759
Stream onegai...

oof, poor aqua

>>12717715
Box pushing is Hololive ultimate weapon. It can't be replicated by other companies!

>>12717759
know your place, onion

Holy shit I kneel to the numberbunny, I was stupid enough to think that Pekora was wasting this game by playing it today. She was 5head enough to use aqua's ILLEGAL VIEW FUNELLING.

>>12717741
No. The entire point is Kiara and Pekora aren’t selling the same product.

My sweet Onyan just got mogged by a smug rabbit!!!

>>12717771
Her lack of streaming and poor mental fortitude will be the death of her numbers.

#1 successfully sniped

>>12717671

>>12717770
Anon. Pekora's audience are the same. She has finished more jrpgs ans draws more people at the same timeslot that Kiara wants to stream it. You can cope about it but it's the truth.

Which hologen has the strongest #2 earner?

I really wish that Pekora could have blown up more in the West. The only way to help is to wait for 2snack to make a viral animation of her. I eam, thanks to him, Korone went viral.

>>12717807
Don't try to reason with KFP, they only watch Kiara so they don't know shit about the rest

Aqua didn't even build her 3D up, She just announced it this morning out of no where.

Aqua.... my poor akwa....

>>12717735
stop bullying? what are you talking about? she never bullied her

number rabbit...

>>12717807
If you think Pekora and Kiara have the same audience from a marketing perspective I’m having a hard time believing you are this stupid. Most of pekora’s audience doesn’t even speak English.

>>12717807
Yet Kiara got the Tales and SMT sponsorships and Pekora didn't, obviously the game companies know more than you

>>12716919
He's referring to that time Mori made a stream exclusively begging Atlus for permission to play their games, that got privated/deleted afterwards due to backlash.

>>12717815
Gen3 with Marine and Pekora.

>>12717830

Yeah, doing guerilla way was not smart.. Idk if it would beat Pekkers still but probably it would do better

pekora shut up. ur voice is more annoying than kiara's at this point

>>12717815
Gen 3, Marine is practically on the same level as Pekora in terms of CCV

>>12717815
Strongest number 2?
EN with Mori, Gen 3 with Marine (?) or Zero with Suisei/Miko whoever.
Wait earner, not generic numbers. Uhhh I feel like Mori makes just slightly more money than Gura so I say EN Gen 1? Who has the best sponsorships this year?

>>12717655
Thing is, unlike other streamers, Holos playing a new game gets circulated a lot in the community. Reddit, twitter, 4chan etc. Kiara isn't limited to just a western audience but a global one since she is EN. It's about how many eyes they can get from a specific streamer. Western streamers can't because they don't care about jrpgs.

>>12717770
Pekora sold 10k plus makaimura solely because nousagi just wants annoy her

>>12717830
Yeah. It's fine though so since it is a concert announcement 3D and not something extremely prepared for like Mel's.

>>12717868
Sorry she's too excited about seeing these numbers

>>12717868
You shut your mouth anon. What you need to do here is to kneel.

>>12717868
Aqua pls.

>>12717875
Gura AND Mori make less money than both Pekora and Marine

>>12717875
en sponsorships are nowhere near as big as jp's

>>12717904
These fuckers never kneel to the actual number bringers but love to kneel to midgets like Hal and Ibrahim.

>>12717912
Yeah that was my bad Was supposed to do all three that I listed there then decide but it sent, oh well.
Yeah it has to be JP because they get better money sources but I don't know which.

>>12717868
nijibro it's time to kneel

Aqua's success is due largely to then HoloMoments that are manned by chinks who happens to really like Aqua, which boosts her in clips and subsequently sibs and ccv. Now that they are completely gone, Aqua is arguably the second worst performer of her gen after Choco.

>>12717815
Gen 3, they have pekora and marine which are top 2 and 3 in hololive SC

>>12717875
>Who has the best sponsorships this year?
Didn't count but probably Marine or Aqua

>55k
holy fucking shit

>>12717805
I wonder if there's still a chance that Nijisanji can lay the groundwork to implement Hololive's box pushing strategy in the future. And by future I mean a minimum of 2-3 years cause I know something like that isn't gonna happen overnight or even within a year.

>>12716541
Honestly, she should do what Calli did and have someone join in her streams

>>12717875
I still wonder how much goddamn money Pekora made with these Judgement streams.

>>12717868
Every time you complain she gets another thousand viewers

>>12717868
God I fucking hate Pekora
She's fucking fake

>>12717937
>Taco Bell
>Nendoroids
>Tales and SMT
Objectively wrong

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Qs_dN-ncOM
Took almost a year but looks like Mori's stream did it.

KNEEL

>>12717971
JPs get FF and DQ though

Pekora is totally jerking off tonight.

>>12717946

Oh boy, I feel like the timeloop of JP vs EN is about to begin again. That means Nijisanji got fucking mogged hard today.

>>12717971
Anon. Why are using objectively wrong. You are clearly using your dick to respond

>>12717946
could you just get out if you want to keep falseflagging, even after the chinkout, she gets better numbers than she was before the chinkout

>>12717971
Curry alone outweights every sponsors that en had in their tenure

60k possible?

>>12717996
EN reclined too much for that to be entertaining.

>>12717971
>nendroid

Kek. Every 3rd gen will get nendo, figma and pop up. Also marine has the figure aswell. Stop embarrassing yourself.

>Niji loses
>EN vs JP starts
Every fucking time, without fail.

>>12717937
maybe if you dont count gura, and mori, and kronii

>>12717954
No.
They killed any chance they had to do it when they spammed the market with livers. By opting for that approach they automatically disqualified themselves from being able to boxpush effectively just by sheer number of talents resulting in a very different culture. To change that culture now would be too much, it's too ingrained within Nijisanji and its fans.

>nijisanji is too useless nijiniggers starting EN vs JP rep

>>12718011
possible recline now since she reach the first ending.

>>12718011
She's going for the second ending now, it's possible but I don't think it'll happen.

>>12717996
>That means Nijisanji got fucking mogged hard today.
Clearly, just look at all the "Aqua is reclining into oblivion" and "EN sucks" posts.

>>12717857
It's really stupid dumb but I wish they make more insane cringy stuff like that, at least it's unique rather than another block game stream

>>12717996
We had to change to holoEn because we beat up nijiniggers too early

it's over

>>12717958
I'd say she made less per hour than that one twitch streamer that was complaining at EA for being blocked from a tourney, but she has been playing this game for a long time now.

>>12718015
>Sponsor Sponsor Sponsor Sponsor
>Sponsor Sponsor Sponsor Sponsor
Too many sponsors EN can't stop winning!

>>12718006
>he thinks Nissin is a bigger company than Taco fucking Bell
Lmao

>>12717826
I have no idea where this "pekora is a pure JP streamer" shit comes from. Just nousagis fluffing their oshi up and pretending she's not super popular with EOPs so they can go "imagine if EOPs watched Pekora! The numbers!"?

>>12718043
this

>>12718021
>these things that haven't happened yet will definitely happen
Nice but your prediction doesn't count for shit

>>12718077
Well placed "Pekora has a lot of EOP viewers" bait, have a (You)

>>12717996
>Mogged
Massacred might be the right word for today.

>>12718102
nice try nijinigger

look at all those EOPs on pekora's chat right now

>3 40k+ streams from holos today, another 2 30k+
If they had schedule it better they could potentially get 4 more daily golds

>>12717996
See this? >12718015

Actual question here, how a company knows X streamer helped with the game sales? or they just look for the live numbers and possible buyers?

>>12718127
?

>>12718029
jp literally collabed with a baseball league, has constant collabs with jp convenience stores, insanely popular don quixote collab, a big bang dream collab and those arent counting the simple "play this game on your stream" ones

>>12718015
>Gurame got sponsor few weeks ago
>Ina got sponsor few days ago
>Kronii got sponsor today
>Bae got sponsor today
>Kiara will get sponsor soon
EN reclined!

>>12718096
Anon. They already have the models. There's already Aqua, Fubuki, Sora and Haachama with Nendos. Gura wasn't the first.

>>12718077
Probably comes from the fact that she never had a single clip that was a big blowout compared to Fubuki scatman, Korone Eekum Bokum, and etc. She is a clipper magnet though.

>>12718143
Anon, sponsors ask for hard data.
Kiara made Bamco VERY happy.

>>12718151
pls understand, he can't read

I wonder if the Korosan game will have this buff effect the next days. Mio and Rushia already confirmed to be playing it

>>12718070
>he thinks that appearing from a mutts fast food chain in a single frame is something to talk about
Talk shit when gura sell out an entire stock of instant ramen

>>12718143
Some have referral links that are specific to each talent so they know how much they pull. It is not for every sponsor though. Mostly they just gauge by their average numbers and the potential exposure they get.

>>12718152
you can stop trying now nijinigger, no one is going to fall for you trying to claim jp is better and en sucks

>>12718180
I wonder if they will ILLEGALLY VIEW FUNNEL it too.

>>12718102
She does though? She's one of the most popular vtubers in the world, not some big in Japan chuuba like kuzuha. It helps a lot that you can easily understand what's going on in a Pekora stream

Nijiniggers awfully quiet today.....

>falseflagger accusing others for falseflagging
Drop it already and keep kneeling to Pekkers

>>12718189
anon, gura literally broke the good smile company website with her nendo

>>12718143
if you make the sale on the same device/account you use for watching the streams, Google/Amazon can help them with what people call tracking and device fingerprinting

JP vs EN let's go!!
>Pekora 56k vs Gura 20k
>Aqua 49k vs Mori 13k
>Miko 42k vs Kronii 10k
>Okayu 35k vs Kiara 6,4k
>Marine 28k vs Baelz 6k
which side is winning lads?

>>12718180
Will EN play this game too?
I'm sure there is an english version

>>12718231
I'm gonna kneel and lick her bunny cunny

AAAAAHHH IM LOOPING.

>2k waiting on Miko member stream

>>12718225
they're quite active actually

>>12718236
Now multiply EN numbers by 2.5x because of Susan being an absolute retard and destroying EN's CCVs, or if you want to actually compare in good faith look at VOD views.

>>12718232
With a limited amount, not to mention that marines nendo is sold out too

>>12718096
??? Those are not predictions anon. They already announced that for quite a while.

https://www.gamerbraves.com/more-hololive-nendoroids-incoming-heres-all-the-hololive-figures-announced-at-wonfes-34/

>>12718245
you bet they will, also Risu most likely too

>>12718232
I'm actually surprised how quickly they went and said "Oh yea, way too many wanted it, we're gonna immediately have an additional run of it".
I don't think any other Holo's nendo has managed to do that right? Like holy shit how many people wanted that thing?

>>12718279
>none of them sold out like Gura's
Ah yes very popular kek

>>12718245
Is the game by Chilla or is this one a different developer?

>>12718276
can you stop giving attention to the retard?

>12718276
>from x1.5
>now x2.5
can't even shitpost consistently

>>12718245
gura sched has a tba for today, and mumei is awaiting for confirmations to post her shced. So maybe.

>chikim got another sponsored stream
>and from mf Atlus
>Chumpedos and Schizosagis absolutely coping on why their oshis has not been selected
Kek
...but also I'm surprised too. SMT is way harder than the regular JRPG and apparently this new entry is no exception.
So Pekora and Gooruh wouldn't be the perfect options neither since is granted they would get filtered live, but also neither Kiara since she played her JRPG on easy and still got stucked sonetimes.
I wonder if her reacting to SMT V trailer has something to do with...or is another Tales of case in which a higher up dev is a fan of Kiara lol.

>>12718277
https://twitter.com/goodsmile_us/status/1425036251833552907

>>12718277
Based, did good smile have the second wave for marine nendo?

Roboco playing it in 60. I hope she gets a nice boost for it too.

>>12717875
I would wager Gura probably makes more money than Mori. The only thing that Mori definitively beats out Gura in are SCs, but Gura wins in practically every other category. And given COVER’s propensity to feature Gura as the “face” of HoloEN far more often than Mori, I would say that’s a clear hint that Gura makes them more money.

>>12718236
Thats unfair, try combining every ens number vs pekora. Ohhhhh wait lmao its still lower 56k > 55k

>>12718143
Cover and their sponsors have actual analytics. We are just throwing catshit in a playground sandbox here. Ever see those chat scrapes we use to dox morons in global? You could easily take Kiara’s member and chat list and search for every instance of them referencing a game, check their profiles for what channels they are subscribed to, do analysis to determine things like age, sex, income and probability of buying JRPGs in general. And of course stuff like referral links. Google makes money off ads precisely because they offer a lot of targeting demographic info.

>>12718321
I hope this means that someone young somehow infiltrated the higher ups in Atlus and is somehow modernizing the way they are handling stuff.

>>12718236
>which side is winning lads
Hololive

>>12718268
can any 35p here confirm this?
I vaguely remember she said she cleared 10k members 3-4 months ago

>>12718331
Why would they do that? They already have pop up, figma and figure waiting for her fans to buy again.

>>12718305
damn, didnt know we have insider

>>12718339
>live views cope
No one gives a shit about Youtube's broken live views counter

>>12718331
Yes

Okay time to abandon thread, see you tomorrow guys.

And Nijisanji is never mentioned in this thread again...

>>12718373
So no

>>12718339
>Retard compare super buff game to dabuff games

>>12718395
Yea, bump limit, timeloops, and no Nijisanji posting = supercancer time.

>>12718164
No holo has eekum bokum tier viral clip (except Gura piggy backing on the ankha meme). Pekora has a lot of popular stuff. Literally just type Pekora in the YouTube search and sort by views

https://youtu.be/0fmr21ZZEhk
https://youtu.be/LWd-H9MefD8
https://youtu.be/BQYNaXRKaWs
https://youtu.be/swGNEJ56EFI

Don't get me wrong, she's massively popular in Japan compared to other holos, but she's still top tier popular globally

>>12718374
Stinks of nijicope right here,
Show me any other nendo that made the makers rush to launch a second run like Gura's

>>12716751
Sony

>>12718381
Lol, lol, lmao
Surely in watchtime EN is doing better then?

I can't believe people are still pitting JP against EN. Look, if JP wins, Cover gets more money. The money will be used to invest in other branches, like future EN and ID. The money can also be used to hire more capable staff, especially their fantastic recruiting department. In the end, the success of JP will give more successes to other branches anyway.

>>12718419
>4 VODs views combine still can't beat one Cat Shark dance (12M)

>>12718336
>Gura as the “face” of HoloEN
Already shows that your just chumkek, did cover announce this or something?

>>12718456
The question that started it was pretty innocent though, who is the best number 2? I shouldn't have asked about who got the best sponsors.

>>12718419
Her virality is up to debate, but I'll admit atleast that she has the best rabbithole game in all JP holo due to the sheer amount of clips she have.

>>12718456
This but EN, JP gens are a waste of money.

>>12718454
>watchtime
Still base on live views Newfag, try again

>/#/ with 4.5 ppm

>>12718456
>people
they're just certain fans from a certain black company

>>12718032
I think their last chance to do something similar was if NijiEn exploded in popularity ala Myth.
>Would be looked at by everyone in NijiJp as celebrities instead of a little sister branch that sometimes gets handouts from the main branch
>Main branch would also be more inclined to collab with them. Hoshikawa pretty much dropped them like a sack of potatoes once she saw they weren't going to be NijiMyth.
>A bigger audience from NijiEn also means a bigger audience for NijiJp that would slowly gain overseas recognition as they collabed more and more.
Its why anyone thinking that NijiEn aren't flops are naive. Lazulight and Obsydia were pushed more than any overseas branch and more than any JP branch prior to Edengumi. They even changed the company name to Anycolor to make their brand name more appealing. It's stupid to think that they'd do all that just so they can get "okay" numbers.

>>12718456
It's falseflaggers pitting EN vs JP when nijis are losing badly

Daily chart anon make the calls already, the thread is timelopping, coping, and possibly seething!

Aki will play Minecraft and Roboco gonna play this korone game as well
Numbers?

>>12718500
So basically all you can do is cope and seethe with your imaginary ccv debuff

Kuzukek's Vampire cover

1st hour: 145k
2nd hour: 245k (+100k)
3rd hour: 515k (+270k)
4th hour: 647k (+132k)
5th hour: 740k (+93k)
6th hour: 822k (+82k)
7th hour: 890k (+68k)
8th hour: 936k (+46k)
8h20m: 948k (+12k) (600 views/min; -21%)
8h40m: 957k (+9k) (450 views/min; -25%)
9h00m: 964k (+7k) (350 views/min; -22%)
9h20m: 970k (+6k) (300 views/min; -14%)
9h40m: 976.9k (+6.9k) (345 views/min; +15%)
10h00m: 981.1k (+4.2k) (210 views/min;-39%)
10h20m: 984.5k (+3.4k) (170 views/min;-19%)
10h40m: 987.6k (+3.1k) (155 views/min;-9%)
11h00m: 990.9k (+3.3k) (165 views/min;+3%)
11h20m: 994.9k (+4.0k) (200 views/min;+17%)
11h30m: 997.0k (+2.1k) (210 views/min;+5%)


Hours to 1 million views

Kuzuha - Vampire -> 11h44hm @ 210 view/minute

Gura - Reflect -> 10h29min
Caligula -> King 11h36m

>>12718429
i'm a holofag, nigger

>>12718419
Eekum Bokum is both very short and over a year old with 12M views. Lord and saviour animation is waaaay longer and already past 6M. I’d say it’s already on the same tier

>>12718524
>imaginary ccv debuff
Way to call you out Newfag

>>12718524
>imaginary
this is the numbers thread, the debuff hitting EN disproportionately hard is proven retard

>>12718548
Learn english

>>12718349
A KFP runs the Bamco social media account or something. And a marketer Bamco listens to recommended Hololive for sponsorships.

>200M VOD milestone :
1. Mori 422 days (9/12/2020-11/7/2021)
2. Pekora 705 days (7/17/2019-6/21/2021)
3. Marine 714 days (8/11/2019-7/25/2021)
4. FBK 1249 days (6/1/2018-10/23/2021)
5. Hololive 1812 days (3/3/2016-2/17/2021) (creation date)
>How about Niji and others ? (non convert)
Is there any site tracking Niji VOD ?

>>12718557
Learn logic

Since retards can't use Niji or VShojo to shitpost against Hololive today, it's EN vs JP turn? Cute, aren't you?

And this is why we need Nijisanji as a punching bag.
Sorry Nijibros but it's the only way to keep this thread under control

>Pegor retained 50k plus and even bounced back to 54k after doing a second playthrough.
Impressive retention desu.

>>12718538
I never contested this anon, Gura has many(if not the most) viral animations and clips. I was just saying eekum bokum and ankha dance are the top tier ones.

>>12717010
Yeah, but people /here/ don't care about reddit

Not even chonoir stream can save this day for nijisanji.

>>12718552
>>12718548
VOD views are literally worthless, if I stay 30 seconds in a video that's +1 view. A streamer with no viewer retention and rotating audiences are counted towards VOD views, but that's not what youtube is optimizing for, and it is therefore an irrelevant metric.

>>12718554
huh, he was streaming? at least he made it on the list I guess...
>>12718569
The girl that hosts the bamco america channel is an enfag, which is great for sponsorships.

>12718548
>Imaginary
At least try to cover yourself kek

>>12718521
Aki 4k and RBC 15k, I hope they get more

Jun T Posing on his wife Pekora with that 100k CCV against peko's 54k CCV

>>12718554
King . .

Since having a 2snack animation can be very beneficial to your growth, I wonder which Holo members will sweeten him up to get that clout.

>>12718513
Myth exploding out of the gate and putting them on roughly equal footing was a huge factor for continued growth and success, an underrated one I think. JOP get excited about Gura collabs the same way EOP look forward to Pekora or Marine.

>>12718626
No need to cope so hard Nijinigger newfag

>>12718554
it's over...

Shut the FUCK up, Pekora's numbers are rising again

Can we stop talking about EN vs JP?
Talk about niji midget now!

>>12718662
Ollie if anything

>>12718626
KAMITSUBAKI : Ogey

>>12718662
>sweeten
It's something as simple as mentioning them somewhere desu. They could commission him for projects afterwards.

>>12718626
>>12718669
Not to mention that stream vod ads doesnt generate that much revenue

Kneel and lick peko

>>12718626
>but that's not what youtube is optimizing for, and it is therefore an irrelevant metric
So you are saying that all non-streaming youtuber is irrelevant because their income is basically calculate by VOD

>>12718678
holy fuck 57k, i fucking kneel pekkers

>>12718694
But we are talking about en being a midget now?

Since the Holo Sports Fes two days before, the number of Korean clips for Hololive has increased 200+ more.

>>12718056
>No 60k peak
Welp, pack it up. We're done here.

>>12718668
This. JOPs love Gura, Mori and even fucking Kronii. They're holo giants, not niji midgets in a sea of nijis

>>12718678
She's doing the Korone gets arrested ending, it's the best one.

>>12717537
We had Halloween massacre, how do we call the day?

>>12718737
Already on it

>>12718773
Mr. Koro massacre.

>>12718761
I think Koreans love Kronii more than JOPs

>>12718345
I think the reason Kiara might be appealing despite lower numbers is that her core audience are weebs who are more open to playing anime JRPGs, but probably never really know or tried out Tales or SMT were it not for Kiara. This makes them likely to actually buy the game and become new fans which is the most important thing for sponsors.

Ctrl+f holo
>55 results
Ctrl+f niji
>44 results
This thread really loves nijisanji huh

>>12718751
Gura is in top 10 today, anon?
Where are the nijis bros...?

>>12718746
Stream vod and 10 min clip vod have different way to get ad revenue basing on what shibuya hal dislse

Poor nijis

>>12718818
Disclosed >>12718746

>>12718806
This, anyone pretending that Pekora's audience has the same marketing potential as Kiara's is just plain ignorant of how advertising works.

>>12718806
It’d crack me up if Kiara ends up being the reason Hololive gets Atlus perms.
Highly unlikely but just a thought.

>>12718813
Hey! At least Mito finally broke 10k today!

>>12718737
SNIFFFFFFF

>>12718668
Yeah. Because of their explosive growth, HoloEn as a branch was treated by the main branch as an equal. Something that HoloCN never had and HoloID just recently got thanks to PekoMoona. Councils transition was pretty much seamless because of that as well

>>12718818
He also plays oh so much Apex, so it's very likely his audience isn't the same as the Hololive audience though. We know how apexfags and fpsfags work, they aren't going to bother going to an old VOD and watching it either.

>>12718806
Cover has sold our data to the big companies and they ran HoloEn's numbers through their algos and found Kiara to be the best candidate.

Kneel.

>>12718750
wait, that can't be true it's too much

>Pekora ends
You know the drill

can nijis use the korone buff game lmaoooo

>>12718884

And she got a higher peak than the Niji 3D live of the day....

>>12718951
jerk off?

>>12718626
Eh? YouTube pays for views not ccv. Most of the money YouTube pays out goes to channels with no live streams at all.

>>12717524
Mr.Koro ... I kneel

>>12718813
Hal is a honorary niji!

Nothing big going on to get a proper funneling.

>>12718554
>Nips only care about Apex
Kek, is not better, but get fucked Activision

>>12718927
PEKO LOVE

>>12718919
did you actually check out what hal said about vod revenue

>>12718942
Just type Hololive hashtag in Korean on YT and it will show you how many clips are available. During Sports Fes, it was 9.1k clips, but the number today is 9.3k clips. There was a lot of old stream moments finally being subbed in KR.

So who will get the ILLEGAL VIEW FUNNELLING.

>>12718967
maybe but anykara is too retarded to actually do it

Just notice that top 5 indies are not JP.
If you are JP and want a high subs you have to join big company.

>>12719032
Correction, Rikkun is too prideful to use something created by an old man.

>>12719004
NTA, but humor me. I'm pretty sure it's been posted before but it's been a while since I've read through it.

>>12718951
P-Peko chan!

>>12719045
the spic queen and who else?