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>>12716241>Most musicians live >like TupackekAnyway, you're right. Two others notable ones that did likewise in most of the 2000s>Madonna>Rolling StonesRoyalties, residuals, appearance fees, none of that mattered for them, only spamming world tours after world tours to collect that sweet concert cash
>>12716252Ban her from playing any competitive collabs ever again.
>>12716117The cover probably
>>12716198Bamco loves Hololive these days.
>Watame sololive>Suisei sololive>Sankisei live>Sora sololive>Aqua sololiveThat's a lot of concerts. I guess Fes 3 won't be on this year...
Apparently, there's a 3D live with 7 livershttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kTiZjKZ8cw
Aqua is reclining hard
Holy shit Kiara got sponsored to play SMT V
>>12716440>birthday 3D live>guests>12.6kManji...
>>12716440No wonder no one talked about it, shit 3d numbers from supposedly top company
>>12716475wtf
>went to haachama's pre-stream chat>only 2 deletedWhy would shitposters lie to me??!
>>12716475Oh my fucking god, literally the worst RPG player, and they're having her tackle one of the more difficult series...Gods she's gonna suffer.
>>12716475Is this big?
>>12716490need to beat marine 28k to get top 5..
Reposting from last threadNow that I think about it, Aqua has constantly been on the receiving end of the stick this year.>Loses MK tourney to Suisei>Failed her Apex solo master challenge>Loses sleep and ends up missing a scheduled project due to this>Lost half of her income (alongside FBK and Suisei tbf) due to chink crisis>Probably also lost tons of planned projects and sponsors >A colleague had to graduate because of that and she's too autistic to back her up. probably due to self-imposed guilt and not wanting to alienate her remaining chink fans>Sololive gets cancelled due to 'DDOS'>Had to take a hiatus for mental well-being>As a result, her numbers went on a decline>Prepped for PVP at sports fes with high expectations only to get mopped 3 times in a row while also being a disruption for the event as a whole>No positive thing that happened to her this year comes to mind>Doesn't even get any saviour fags for the troubleHow would /#/ save akwa?>>12716389Okay now her contents are just FOMO and utawaku since she doesn't do collab very well or at all. How does this help?
>>12716475IT'S TRUE, ATLUS!!! PERSONA PERMS!>>12716543It means they got perms from atlus
>>12716427>Gen 1 live >forgottenweakest gen...
>>12716475ATLUS FINALLY SUCCUMBS TO COVER
>>12716543Yes, not only is atlus notoriously cagey about permissions, but smt 5 is pretty much THE big jrpg of the year
>>12716475>made by Atlusmori....
>>12716475Why in the fucking hell would they pick her over Mori?? Hell even Ina would do a better job
>>12716475>dev: Atlus>plat: Nintendo>pub: A, N, & Sega3 birds in one stonehow do Bamco feel about this?
>>12716574Not necessarily. It means that they're at the very least in 'Hey, we like you enough to get you to shill our game' territory. Now, if they actually confirm they have perms for other Atlus games, then that's pretty big.
>>12716592>>12716574>>12716475Sooo Uhhh, Is this a Major Sponsorship? Sorry i don't know the game
>>12716475Oh shit, Atlus is finally kneeling?
>>12716574Holy shit... Persona permissions for Mori! Do it now Atlus you fucks!!!
>>12716612Kiara positioned herself to be the JRPG streamer of the group.Mori might make a sudden schedule change as well, who knows.
>>12716628tl;dr yes
>>12716574doubt it 100% means perms yet but its a step in the right direction
>>12716604>THE big jrpg of the yearbigger than ToA?
>>12716619Probably pretty good to have gotten Kiara to shill Tales. >>12716628Y e s.SMTV is ATLUS's 1st FLAGSHIP series, the second one being the 'spinoff' line SMT: Persona (which took off with Persona 3)
>>12716557>How would /#/ save akwa?Even with a decline she still was top 10 in October for overall CCVWhy she would need to be 'saved'
>>12716657Basically, yes. It's a new game shilled back on EA showcase. I forgot. That's not the main thing though everyone is excited about, they could finally get persona perms if atlus bless them.
>>12716657Y E S.SMTV has been in the works for years, whereas Tales of Arise is simply the latest tales game.
>>12716387Stadiums and other large venues are absolute money sinks that cost you every second they are empty. A large stadium in America only costs 20-30k to rent for four hours. Often the stadium already has services/contractors available for concessions, janitorial, box office, etc and you split some costs like insurance. As a very broad generalization you can rent an actual stadium with staffing and other costs included for 100-200k for a four hour event. That’s not chump change obviously, but these 3k venues Cover is using is a tiny fraction of an actual football stadium. A medium to large club is more like 3-5k for rental, 20-30k total for all expenses. That is fucking chump change they get that selling light sticks and towels. Even in the age of streaming live concerts are where the real money is
>>12716679because you need to learn to not reply to obvious shitposters
>>12716679because she isn't in the top 5, she was nijikiller for fuck sake also i need meds
>>12716475Well that's exciting , atlus sponsorship and what not. But don't count on general permissions just yet and watch her have shit numbers too, its a jrog stream.
>>12716679because she was top 5 (arguably top 3 with Pekora/Marine) last year. at this rate she'll be averaging <10k next year
>>12716574>Nintendo>Capcom>Microsoft>Square Enix >Sega >and now atlusWho's the next company to kneel?
>>12716612That means sponsors not only look at numbers but the passion for games like Kiara's love to JRPG
>>12716734>nijikillerDidn’t it mean “beating Mito” back then?
>>12716751Fromsoft.
>>12716751Fromsoft
>>12716475does this mean Pekora can play Atlus games too? The numbers would be amazing.
>>12716741>at this rateshes been on those stable for at least 3 months, timelooper
>>12716755>passionI guess they blacklisted Mori
>>12716765one would think getting atlus permissions is much harder than getting fromsofts
>>12716751Tencent
>>12716763basically the whole company. she was also gets the most SC in HL before Coco. In addition to income from BiliBili in which she was the most popular alongside FBK and Suisei
>>12716791Cover hasn't released a statement that they've reached a 'comprehensive agreement' or whatever it is to indicate they have global permissions for all Atlus games. Until such a thing happens, no. However, Pekora is both 'good enough' and entertaining enough to pull off what Kiara can't, and that's pull 20k+ on jRPG streams.
>>12716791Good games for her weekends, make it happen Atlus
>>12716791eh, most rpgs are regular numbers for pegor
>>12716802Okay, atlus is harder. Fromsoft is being a bitch for giving perms to niji, not holo. But Konami... Konami needs to be a big boy and stop relying on Niji.
>>12716440This was i'm going say in the last thread. WTF nijisanji??? She used to be compare to noel until the man paring shit and then....
>>12716830She is still busy with her sponsorship stream at weekend.
>>12716796that was before her absolute embarrassment in the sportsfes (which she gets about half the ccv she had last year, probably will be halved again next year if she does another PoV)
>>12716751Sony
Pekora at 24k despite not starting the game yet.>Also overlapping Lamy Announcement and Miko playing the same game
>>12716475HOLY SHITORANGE WOMEN GOODATLUS FINALLY BENDS THE KNEE
jezas pekora 24k and didnt even start the game yet
24k already on pekkers.
>>12716797Nah more like Mori likes relatively niche rpgs but her audience maybe not. I doubt her music audience cares about them whereas Kiara has already hard filtered anyone who isn’t interested. Also BN was obviously very happy and Cover might have some good metrics to use.
>>12716751KonamiI just want Pekora to play Revengance already
>>12716475I'll forever kneel if they get Persona permissions because of this.
>>12716755>>12716641I guess SMT is a JRPG, but it does feel different in a way, doesn't feel the type that Kiara would normally enjoy. Has she ever played any Atlus game before even? Oh well, I hope after all this time she's learned to at least learn the game she's gonna shill and not make too much of an idiot of herself.
>>12716896Miko seems to be at the losing end of the overlap.will Pekkers beat Aqua's 50k?the shitposting will be horrible
>>12716915>>12716908>>12716896If Miko and Lamy might actually finish early. Pekora have a chance of getting 40k
>>12716829In any case, they got perms for SMTV at least, so be prepared that Pekora is gonna play it or at least get sponsored to play it in the weekends.
>>12716937It would be hilarious if Kiara fucks it up and Cover loses the Atlus perms.
>>12716915too strong
>>12716691That'd be great but I wouldn't bet on it, this feels like them being given very limited permission when the game is out but no more, just like with Pokemon
Kanata posted a second wave of Sportfes pictures at reddit, this time for HoloID.
>>12716955its JP prime time, Miko got 42k overlapping with Marine. I think Pekora can do 50k-60k if illegal view funneling is in play
>>12716895you should look at total views instead of fake spamviewshit ccv, anonchama. They are close and her recent one pov is still growing in views
>Holos mogging nijis all day today>7 25k+ streams>Sololive announcement>Atlus bends the knee>Bamco sponsoring the sololiveHolocaust redemption arc
>>12716557Akua... My poor Akua...Imo though>for now focus on her sololive, keep her streaming rate like this for now is alright since she has a very obvious reason to stream less.>after the sololive, drop most of her idol stuff if possible, or at least reduce it to a manageable amount of time.>actually play games again, preferably non-competitive ones, or just focus on story mode/campaigns/goofy games>branch out. Subaru would be a good place to start, they're genmates and have been in same projects together, she's also very easy to get along with.>nikisei. Hardly any unity nowadays, bringing attention back to this particular gen would surely help.>then Hololive, stop being fucking solo all the time. Attempt collab with other branches, preferably EN that is able to speak Japanese, Umisea members are fine too.>interact. Ayame has a strong presence despite hardly streaming and that's because other members constantly brings her up, and Hologra. Actually interact with them so there's something to talk about you other than just "Aqua is shy, again, for the 28th time we've met"This is asking a lot obviously and she probably doesn't need saving to begin with, but one can hope.
>>12717015The audience can't be watching the same game over and over again right?
>>12716937Kiara. Learning game systems before playing.Ha.ha. ha. ha ha ah ahahahahahahahahahaNo. She's gonna die and be a bloody idiot because her ability to learn is predicated on brute-forcing things, and oh boy that's a PAINFUL way to try and learn SMT mainline. SMT IV had an early boss that basically smashed your face in unless you learnt how to use smirk etc iirc.
>>12716475Why give it to a 2view member?
>>12716955miko 20k lamy 10kboth have member stream and will end in 30 minsif funnel to pekora it can easily go pass 50k
>>12717040>Bamco sponsoring the sololivewait what? is this true?
>>12717049Same game but viewers wants to watch reactions of the members
>>12717043I don't watch aqua but coming from your suggestion, She sounds like what Pekora wouldve been if she didnt go full autist numberfag.
>>12717054SMT IV was my first SMT game.I got my shit kicked in so hard.Past the first dungeon it was relatively easy.
>>12717080
>>12717049This!Pekora playing this game (before miko and okayu) at primetime with no major overlaps might reach 50k+But tonight? She'll be having a hard time breaking 40k.
>>12717067Better than giving it to some 2view JP
>>12717049implying they watch holo for the games kekthey watch pekora for pekora
>>12717076inb4 Pekora plays too quickly and miss the funnelSo far she has been stalling welll though so she probably knows.
>>12717118That is not the sponsor. That is the list of contractors for the sololive.
>>12716937I'm both happy and sad about the news. I'm happy Kiara got more work but after watching her play the d2 remaster, I'm not very confident about her playing something not very casual. I hope Wamy plays smtv. She played d2 too and even though she was also a complete noob, she was fun to watch. Shame her pc couldn't take the game it seems, I wanted to see her fight Duriel.
>>12717127She's already at 33.5k though.
>>12717067Because she has an audience that will actually buy the game like with ToA.SMT has been fucking referred to as a Persona spin off by retarded game journalists.
>>12716967Can't lose something you don't have.
>>12717154Lamy just bought a $7500 PC so it will be fine.>>12717162I bet it's western game journos.
>>12716829Why would Atlus let Pekora play SMTV and pull attention away from Kiara who they specifically chose to promote the game?
>>12717118not sponsor but at least they are working together
>>12717208because japs dont watch kiara
>>12717208better numbers and probably better gameplay quality. Also Jap viewers
>>12717230They don't need to promote the game in Japan.
>>12717179copechama...
Pekora could pull 70k for her FFX ending, why would atlus not pick her for a JRPG stream...
>>12717208cause Kiara appeals to ENfags and Pekora to JPfags?
>>12717128But pekora isnt a 2view no?
>>12717252Reminds me, Bamco did not sponsor Suisei for ToA
>>12717049>>12715521
>>12717237They'd just be shooting themselves in the foot, even Bamco was smart enough to appoint Kiara as the official Tales ambassador rather than dilute the attention.
>>12717243neither Sega or Capcom and they still asked for the bunny
>>12717252sorry rabbit is already scheduled for 15 more lost judgement streams. Mel is available however if you're not too keen with the bird
>>12717280Both series are respected in Japan.They’re literal who’s in NA compared to their Japanese counterpart.Even Moona got a ToA sponsorship.
>>12717127Are you ready to kneel anon? She's already at 38k.
>>12717208Because she can promote it to a larger audience? Remember pekoras makaimura stream?
>>12717311Pekora is getting 25k+ despite playing Judgement for over a month now... she's the ultimate JRPG holo...
Za ramy really likes her 3Dhome huh
we just want to support doog
>>12716802Yeah but fromsoft hates hololive for some reasonThen again, so did capcom so
>>12717252Or maybe Atlus has the actual data provided by Cover and know that HoloMyth is more popular with SMT's target demographic?
>>12717336based dog bro
30 minutes until Pekora will once again reminds everyone why she's the top ace of Hololive
Pekora might beat Aqua after Miko ends, what the FUCK
>>12717243Do you really beleb that kiara have a reach outside from her 4k unironic weeb watcher
40k get for peckers
>>12717101First dungeon is always the hardest in most JRPGs, sure final dungeon might be typically harder but at start you barely have anything to work with. This is especially worse in an Atlus game, not just SMT but even Etrian Odyssey first dungeon floor can kick your ass.
>>12717393She was the most popular Tales of Arise streamer by a large margin.
Where's the king...
>>12717243Pekora doesn't even play FFXIV and yet she'll be in the launch event
>>12717311her afternoons are scheduled. Night prime time on the weekends are usually free (and very expensive)
>>12717342>Yeah but fromsoft hates hololive for some reasonwhat proof do you have about this anon? If you are talking about the lack of permissions then that does mean shit, if anything I would bet they will get it a month before ER release, just like with MH
>>12717351We are talking about Kiara. Not Myth. Her TOA numbers were very bad. I think Pekora has more foreigners watching her play Judge's eye than the collective amount of CCV that Kiara ever accrued for all of her TOA streams. She's also playing it SEA friendly time. Not EU nor EST friendly
>>12717404>they'll get tired seeing same game 3 times in a row they said, she wont get the number they saidshow em rabbit!!
>>12717415??? Suisei
>>12717415No, suisei is
>>12717333I'm still impressed that Pekora has a hidden talent at presenting any games as long as it has a good story. And she has a knack of playing games as optimized as possible without missing good meat. I've been checking the gameplays with other holos and she is always 1 or 2 streams faster than others at finishing long games(the streams are relatively longer though, but it would be interesting to see numberfagging to those).
>holos have 3 (three) 40K+ streams in a single day
>>12717311Is she far from finishing that game?
hey pekora can you finish your game already please
>>12717477>>12717311She is almost halfway, won't be surprised if she tries to finish it next weekend by going overtime.
>>12717477Side quests
>>12717473I declare this day as the Holoday
>>12717477She's already at chapter 8. Lost judgement has 13 chapter so she's pretty close at finishing the game.
migo 30k get for the second time today
>>12717473>Four 35k+ streams>Three of them are Evil God Korone
>>12717494All of this agressive shilling and partnerships, and yet she still lags heavily behind a tako that barely puts in any effort kekBeing Kiara is pain
>>12717494I saw some anons saying she also got a Elden Ring sponsored stream, is this actually true?
Kneel
>>12717524>>12717473ILLEGAL GAME FUNNELLING
So ... How long can we use the post-MC Sportfes buff to justify this literal mogging?
What happened with Nijisanji today? Is there no one else taking on Hololive?
>>12717442I think Kiara accounted for something like a third of all the total English language ToA stream hours watched and had more ccv than all the other ambassadors combined. She’s only small compared to Myth.
>>12717530Please no unless it's a german only stream. That I'll understand.
>>12717530Won't be surprised considering fucking Siro who can barely get 1k ccv in her streams get to present it.
>>12717473k-king save us from holo domination!
>>12717442It’s targeted advertisement anonchama.Kiara has a known JRPG liking audience who are more likely to buy the game compared to say Gura’s audience.
>>12717537I only saw Mr.Koro...
>>12717537wait, I saw Aqua at 50k wtf?
>>12717537What a fucking strong day for Holos!Mr. Koro, I Fucking Kneel! I'll even lick your dirty boots if you want (also your body)
they are saving marine's play of korogame for tomorrow arent they. Any chance she could beat pegor?
>>12717537Mr. Koro is the MVP of the day
>>12717604Probably, Pekora is sharing this time with Miko. Maririn by herself could probably get to 50k.
Miko is done, illegal view funneling soon. If Pekora gets them she can break 50K.
>>12717594It got 50k but the live ranking sometimes don't update fast enough and misses the total number
Nijibros…
>>12717628Ah ok, just like vnuma then
And the funneling to Pegora begins
Let the illegal funneling commence...
Marketers do not always go for pure numbers. They’ve commented about this extensively: a streamer with a huge viewer base by definition has a large chunk that isn’t into your content. They are harder to deal with and manage, tend to be less responsive to communication and less willing to cater to your requests. Gura has a massive audience but what percentage care about relatively (compared to western gaming in general) obscure JRPG titles? You think her greynames are going to buy Persona or SMT? Kiara has already hard filtered her audience. They can pay her less and she’ll feature their content for literally dozens of hours. It’s all in the details of the contract and units sold/marketing dollar.
>>12717546They had a 3d live collab with several livers that didn't even get 20k (I'm not even sure if they broke 15k)
>>12717632>almost 29k by literally only talkingMarin...
Can the sexy bunny surpass Aqua's 3D live?
>>12717655I'm a chumbud, but ended up buying ToA from Kiara shilling. The game was great. Doesn't really matter who shills it, as long as within hololive.
>>12717655>pay her lessget real anon, this is the main reason they dont always go for the biggest names
>>12717632Miko could've win today.Okayu should've played this tomorrow for a sure gold medal.Let Wednesday go to Kuzuha since its his birthdayPekora should've played this on Thursday for a sure gold medal.
>>12717672Marine is zatsudan master like Subaru
>>12717672And it’s not enough to break top five. Whew what a day for numberfags everywhere
>>12717581Retard. The person that draws the most person in that timelslot are people like Pekora. Be it global or local. Kiara's numbers is a drop when playing JRPG for any audience.
>>12717685I mean she's already at 48.3k. Its possible
>>12717672sleep deprivation buff
>>12717494That is a screenshot and a half.Oii Bamco you sponsored Gura's Taiko, make her an official partner too.
>>12717715AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA STOP THE COUNT
>Pekora+Koro-san is gonna beat Aqua's 3D + Announcement at this point
>>12717715STOP THE COUNT
ONION MOGGEDPekora can't stop bullying her kek
>>12717690Idiot. Obviously cost matters but it’s one factor of many. This isn’t a secret it’s been openly discussed at length by many sources.
>>12717655So what you are saying is Kiara was cheaper than Pekora?
>>12717715AAAAH AQUA DON'T LOOK
>>12717715bunny is going erect!
>>12717728Done
A particularly strong day for Hololive. The MC Sports Fes buff has positively affected HoloJP the most, giving us fantastic numbers. I think HoloEN might have received some buff too, seeing how their numbers yesterday were quite high.
akua...
Welp
aqua mogged..
>>12717710That's just cope, Kiara's audience is more faithful and targeted towards people who will actually buy JRPGs and the marketers know it.
>>12717759Stream onegai...
oof, poor aqua
>>12717715Box pushing is Hololive ultimate weapon. It can't be replicated by other companies!
>>12717759know your place, onion
Holy shit I kneel to the numberbunny, I was stupid enough to think that Pekora was wasting this game by playing it today. She was 5head enough to use aqua's ILLEGAL VIEW FUNELLING.
>>12717741No. The entire point is Kiara and Pekora aren’t selling the same product.
My sweet Onyan just got mogged by a smug rabbit!!!
>>12717771Her lack of streaming and poor mental fortitude will be the death of her numbers.
#1 successfully sniped
>>12717671
>>12717770Anon. Pekora's audience are the same. She has finished more jrpgs ans draws more people at the same timeslot that Kiara wants to stream it. You can cope about it but it's the truth.
Which hologen has the strongest #2 earner?
I really wish that Pekora could have blown up more in the West. The only way to help is to wait for 2snack to make a viral animation of her. I eam, thanks to him, Korone went viral.
>>12717807Don't try to reason with KFP, they only watch Kiara so they don't know shit about the rest
Aqua didn't even build her 3D up, She just announced it this morning out of no where.
Aqua.... my poor akwa....
>>12717735stop bullying? what are you talking about? she never bullied her
number rabbit...
>>12717807If you think Pekora and Kiara have the same audience from a marketing perspective I’m having a hard time believing you are this stupid. Most of pekora’s audience doesn’t even speak English.
>>12717807Yet Kiara got the Tales and SMT sponsorships and Pekora didn't, obviously the game companies know more than you
>>12716919He's referring to that time Mori made a stream exclusively begging Atlus for permission to play their games, that got privated/deleted afterwards due to backlash.
>>12717815Gen3 with Marine and Pekora.
>>12717830Yeah, doing guerilla way was not smart.. Idk if it would beat Pekkers still but probably it would do better
pekora shut up. ur voice is more annoying than kiara's at this point
>>12717815Gen 3, Marine is practically on the same level as Pekora in terms of CCV
>>12717815Strongest number 2?EN with Mori, Gen 3 with Marine (?) or Zero with Suisei/Miko whoever.Wait earner, not generic numbers. Uhhh I feel like Mori makes just slightly more money than Gura so I say EN Gen 1? Who has the best sponsorships this year?
>>12717655Thing is, unlike other streamers, Holos playing a new game gets circulated a lot in the community. Reddit, twitter, 4chan etc. Kiara isn't limited to just a western audience but a global one since she is EN. It's about how many eyes they can get from a specific streamer. Western streamers can't because they don't care about jrpgs.
>>12717770Pekora sold 10k plus makaimura solely because nousagi just wants annoy her
>>12717830Yeah. It's fine though so since it is a concert announcement 3D and not something extremely prepared for like Mel's.
>>12717868Sorry she's too excited about seeing these numbers
>>12717868You shut your mouth anon. What you need to do here is to kneel.
>>12717868Aqua pls.
>>12717875Gura AND Mori make less money than both Pekora and Marine
>>12717875en sponsorships are nowhere near as big as jp's
>>12717904These fuckers never kneel to the actual number bringers but love to kneel to midgets like Hal and Ibrahim.
>>12717912Yeah that was my bad Was supposed to do all three that I listed there then decide but it sent, oh well.Yeah it has to be JP because they get better money sources but I don't know which.
>>12717868nijibro it's time to kneel
Aqua's success is due largely to then HoloMoments that are manned by chinks who happens to really like Aqua, which boosts her in clips and subsequently sibs and ccv. Now that they are completely gone, Aqua is arguably the second worst performer of her gen after Choco.
>>12717815Gen 3, they have pekora and marine which are top 2 and 3 in hololive SC
>>12717875>Who has the best sponsorships this year?Didn't count but probably Marine or Aqua
>55kholy fucking shit
>>12717805I wonder if there's still a chance that Nijisanji can lay the groundwork to implement Hololive's box pushing strategy in the future. And by future I mean a minimum of 2-3 years cause I know something like that isn't gonna happen overnight or even within a year.
>>12716541Honestly, she should do what Calli did and have someone join in her streams
>>12717875I still wonder how much goddamn money Pekora made with these Judgement streams.
>>12717868Every time you complain she gets another thousand viewers
>>12717868God I fucking hate PekoraShe's fucking fake
>>12717937>Taco Bell>Nendoroids>Tales and SMTObjectively wrong
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Qs_dN-ncOMTook almost a year but looks like Mori's stream did it.
KNEEL
>>12717971JPs get FF and DQ though
Pekora is totally jerking off tonight.
>>12717946
Oh boy, I feel like the timeloop of JP vs EN is about to begin again. That means Nijisanji got fucking mogged hard today.
>>12717971Anon. Why are using objectively wrong. You are clearly using your dick to respond
>>12717946could you just get out if you want to keep falseflagging, even after the chinkout, she gets better numbers than she was before the chinkout
>>12717971Curry alone outweights every sponsors that en had in their tenure
60k possible?
>>12717996EN reclined too much for that to be entertaining.
>>12717971>nendroidKek. Every 3rd gen will get nendo, figma and pop up. Also marine has the figure aswell. Stop embarrassing yourself.
>Niji loses>EN vs JP startsEvery fucking time, without fail.
>>12717937maybe if you dont count gura, and mori, and kronii
>>12717954No.They killed any chance they had to do it when they spammed the market with livers. By opting for that approach they automatically disqualified themselves from being able to boxpush effectively just by sheer number of talents resulting in a very different culture. To change that culture now would be too much, it's too ingrained within Nijisanji and its fans.
>nijisanji is too useless nijiniggers starting EN vs JP rep
>>12718011possible recline now since she reach the first ending.
>>12718011She's going for the second ending now, it's possible but I don't think it'll happen.
>>12717996>That means Nijisanji got fucking mogged hard today.Clearly, just look at all the "Aqua is reclining into oblivion" and "EN sucks" posts.
>>12717857It's really stupid dumb but I wish they make more insane cringy stuff like that, at least it's unique rather than another block game stream
>>12717996We had to change to holoEn because we beat up nijiniggers too early
it's over
>>12717958I'd say she made less per hour than that one twitch streamer that was complaining at EA for being blocked from a tourney, but she has been playing this game for a long time now.
>>12718015>Sponsor Sponsor Sponsor Sponsor>Sponsor Sponsor Sponsor SponsorToo many sponsors EN can't stop winning!
>>12718006 >he thinks Nissin is a bigger company than Taco fucking BellLmao
>>12717826I have no idea where this "pekora is a pure JP streamer" shit comes from. Just nousagis fluffing their oshi up and pretending she's not super popular with EOPs so they can go "imagine if EOPs watched Pekora! The numbers!"?
>>12718043this
>>12718021>these things that haven't happened yet will definitely happenNice but your prediction doesn't count for shit
>>12718077Well placed "Pekora has a lot of EOP viewers" bait, have a (You)
>>12717996>Mogged Massacred might be the right word for today.
>>12718102nice try nijinigger
look at all those EOPs on pekora's chat right now
>3 40k+ streams from holos today, another 2 30k+If they had schedule it better they could potentially get 4 more daily golds
>>12717996See this? >12718015
Actual question here, how a company knows X streamer helped with the game sales? or they just look for the live numbers and possible buyers?
>>12718127?
>>12718029jp literally collabed with a baseball league, has constant collabs with jp convenience stores, insanely popular don quixote collab, a big bang dream collab and those arent counting the simple "play this game on your stream" ones
>>12718015>Gurame got sponsor few weeks ago>Ina got sponsor few days ago>Kronii got sponsor today>Bae got sponsor today>Kiara will get sponsor soonEN reclined!
>>12718096Anon. They already have the models. There's already Aqua, Fubuki, Sora and Haachama with Nendos. Gura wasn't the first.
>>12718077Probably comes from the fact that she never had a single clip that was a big blowout compared to Fubuki scatman, Korone Eekum Bokum, and etc. She is a clipper magnet though.
>>12718143Anon, sponsors ask for hard data.Kiara made Bamco VERY happy.
>>12718151pls understand, he can't read
I wonder if the Korosan game will have this buff effect the next days. Mio and Rushia already confirmed to be playing it
>>12718070>he thinks that appearing from a mutts fast food chain in a single frame is something to talk aboutTalk shit when gura sell out an entire stock of instant ramen
>>12718143Some have referral links that are specific to each talent so they know how much they pull. It is not for every sponsor though. Mostly they just gauge by their average numbers and the potential exposure they get.
>>12718152you can stop trying now nijinigger, no one is going to fall for you trying to claim jp is better and en sucks
>>12718180I wonder if they will ILLEGALLY VIEW FUNNEL it too.
>>12718102She does though? She's one of the most popular vtubers in the world, not some big in Japan chuuba like kuzuha. It helps a lot that you can easily understand what's going on in a Pekora stream
Nijiniggers awfully quiet today.....
>falseflagger accusing others for falseflaggingDrop it already and keep kneeling to Pekkers
>>12718189anon, gura literally broke the good smile company website with her nendo
>>12718143if you make the sale on the same device/account you use for watching the streams, Google/Amazon can help them with what people call tracking and device fingerprinting
JP vs EN let's go!! >Pekora 56k vs Gura 20k>Aqua 49k vs Mori 13k>Miko 42k vs Kronii 10k>Okayu 35k vs Kiara 6,4k>Marine 28k vs Baelz 6kwhich side is winning lads?
>>12718180Will EN play this game too?I'm sure there is an english version
>>12718231I'm gonna kneel and lick her bunny cunny
AAAAAHHH IM LOOPING.
>2k waiting on Miko member stream
>>12718225they're quite active actually
>>12718236Now multiply EN numbers by 2.5x because of Susan being an absolute retard and destroying EN's CCVs, or if you want to actually compare in good faith look at VOD views.
>>12718232With a limited amount, not to mention that marines nendo is sold out too
>>12718096??? Those are not predictions anon. They already announced that for quite a while. https://www.gamerbraves.com/more-hololive-nendoroids-incoming-heres-all-the-hololive-figures-announced-at-wonfes-34/
>>12718245you bet they will, also Risu most likely too
>>12718232I'm actually surprised how quickly they went and said "Oh yea, way too many wanted it, we're gonna immediately have an additional run of it".I don't think any other Holo's nendo has managed to do that right? Like holy shit how many people wanted that thing?
>>12718279>none of them sold out like Gura's Ah yes very popular kek
>>12718245Is the game by Chilla or is this one a different developer?
>>12718276can you stop giving attention to the retard?
>12718276>from x1.5>now x2.5can't even shitpost consistently
>>12718245gura sched has a tba for today, and mumei is awaiting for confirmations to post her shced. So maybe.
>chikim got another sponsored stream>and from mf Atlus>Chumpedos and Schizosagis absolutely coping on why their oshis has not been selectedKek...but also I'm surprised too. SMT is way harder than the regular JRPG and apparently this new entry is no exception.So Pekora and Gooruh wouldn't be the perfect options neither since is granted they would get filtered live, but also neither Kiara since she played her JRPG on easy and still got stucked sonetimes.I wonder if her reacting to SMT V trailer has something to do with...or is another Tales of case in which a higher up dev is a fan of Kiara lol.
>>12718277https://twitter.com/goodsmile_us/status/1425036251833552907
>>12718277Based, did good smile have the second wave for marine nendo?
Roboco playing it in 60. I hope she gets a nice boost for it too.
>>12717875I would wager Gura probably makes more money than Mori. The only thing that Mori definitively beats out Gura in are SCs, but Gura wins in practically every other category. And given COVER’s propensity to feature Gura as the “face” of HoloEN far more often than Mori, I would say that’s a clear hint that Gura makes them more money.
>>12718236Thats unfair, try combining every ens number vs pekora. Ohhhhh wait lmao its still lower 56k > 55k
>>12718143Cover and their sponsors have actual analytics. We are just throwing catshit in a playground sandbox here. Ever see those chat scrapes we use to dox morons in global? You could easily take Kiara’s member and chat list and search for every instance of them referencing a game, check their profiles for what channels they are subscribed to, do analysis to determine things like age, sex, income and probability of buying JRPGs in general. And of course stuff like referral links. Google makes money off ads precisely because they offer a lot of targeting demographic info.
>>12718321I hope this means that someone young somehow infiltrated the higher ups in Atlus and is somehow modernizing the way they are handling stuff.
>>12718236>which side is winning ladsHololive
>>12718268can any 35p here confirm this?I vaguely remember she said she cleared 10k members 3-4 months ago
>>12718331Why would they do that? They already have pop up, figma and figure waiting for her fans to buy again.
>>12718305damn, didnt know we have insider
>>12718339>live views copeNo one gives a shit about Youtube's broken live views counter
>>12718331Yes
Okay time to abandon thread, see you tomorrow guys.
And Nijisanji is never mentioned in this thread again...
>>12718373So no
>>12718339>Retard compare super buff game to dabuff games
>>12718395Yea, bump limit, timeloops, and no Nijisanji posting = supercancer time.
>>12718164No holo has eekum bokum tier viral clip (except Gura piggy backing on the ankha meme). Pekora has a lot of popular stuff. Literally just type Pekora in the YouTube search and sort by viewshttps://youtu.be/0fmr21ZZEhkhttps://youtu.be/LWd-H9MefD8https://youtu.be/BQYNaXRKaWshttps://youtu.be/swGNEJ56EFIDon't get me wrong, she's massively popular in Japan compared to other holos, but she's still top tier popular globally
>>12718374Stinks of nijicope right here,Show me any other nendo that made the makers rush to launch a second run like Gura's
>>12718381Lol, lol, lmaoSurely in watchtime EN is doing better then?
I can't believe people are still pitting JP against EN. Look, if JP wins, Cover gets more money. The money will be used to invest in other branches, like future EN and ID. The money can also be used to hire more capable staff, especially their fantastic recruiting department. In the end, the success of JP will give more successes to other branches anyway.
>>12718419>4 VODs views combine still can't beat one Cat Shark dance (12M)
>>12718336>Gura as the “face” of HoloEN Already shows that your just chumkek, did cover announce this or something?
>>12718456The question that started it was pretty innocent though, who is the best number 2? I shouldn't have asked about who got the best sponsors.
>>12718419Her virality is up to debate, but I'll admit atleast that she has the best rabbithole game in all JP holo due to the sheer amount of clips she have.
>>12718456This but EN, JP gens are a waste of money.
>>12718454>watchtimeStill base on live views Newfag, try again
>/#/ with 4.5 ppm>>12718456>peoplethey're just certain fans from a certain black company
>>12718032I think their last chance to do something similar was if NijiEn exploded in popularity ala Myth. >Would be looked at by everyone in NijiJp as celebrities instead of a little sister branch that sometimes gets handouts from the main branch>Main branch would also be more inclined to collab with them. Hoshikawa pretty much dropped them like a sack of potatoes once she saw they weren't going to be NijiMyth.>A bigger audience from NijiEn also means a bigger audience for NijiJp that would slowly gain overseas recognition as they collabed more and more.Its why anyone thinking that NijiEn aren't flops are naive. Lazulight and Obsydia were pushed more than any overseas branch and more than any JP branch prior to Edengumi. They even changed the company name to Anycolor to make their brand name more appealing. It's stupid to think that they'd do all that just so they can get "okay" numbers.
>>12718456It's falseflaggers pitting EN vs JP when nijis are losing badly
Daily chart anon make the calls already, the thread is timelopping, coping, and possibly seething! Aki will play Minecraft and Roboco gonna play this korone game as wellNumbers?
>>12718500So basically all you can do is cope and seethe with your imaginary ccv debuff
Kuzukek's Vampire cover1st hour: 145k2nd hour: 245k (+100k)3rd hour: 515k (+270k)4th hour: 647k (+132k)5th hour: 740k (+93k)6th hour: 822k (+82k)7th hour: 890k (+68k)8th hour: 936k (+46k)8h20m: 948k (+12k) (600 views/min; -21%)8h40m: 957k (+9k) (450 views/min; -25%)9h00m: 964k (+7k) (350 views/min; -22%)9h20m: 970k (+6k) (300 views/min; -14%)9h40m: 976.9k (+6.9k) (345 views/min; +15%)10h00m: 981.1k (+4.2k) (210 views/min;-39%)10h20m: 984.5k (+3.4k) (170 views/min;-19%)10h40m: 987.6k (+3.1k) (155 views/min;-9%)11h00m: 990.9k (+3.3k) (165 views/min;+3%)11h20m: 994.9k (+4.0k) (200 views/min;+17%)11h30m: 997.0k (+2.1k) (210 views/min;+5%)Hours to 1 million viewsKuzuha - Vampire -> 11h44hm @ 210 view/minuteGura - Reflect -> 10h29minCaligula -> King 11h36m
>>12718429i'm a holofag, nigger
>>12718419Eekum Bokum is both very short and over a year old with 12M views. Lord and saviour animation is waaaay longer and already past 6M. I’d say it’s already on the same tier
>>12718524>imaginary ccv debuffWay to call you out Newfag
>>12718524>imaginarythis is the numbers thread, the debuff hitting EN disproportionately hard is proven retard
>>12718548Learn english
>>12718349A KFP runs the Bamco social media account or something. And a marketer Bamco listens to recommended Hololive for sponsorships.
>200M VOD milestone :1. Mori 422 days (9/12/2020-11/7/2021)2. Pekora 705 days (7/17/2019-6/21/2021)3. Marine 714 days (8/11/2019-7/25/2021)4. FBK 1249 days (6/1/2018-10/23/2021)5. Hololive 1812 days (3/3/2016-2/17/2021) (creation date)>How about Niji and others ? (non convert)Is there any site tracking Niji VOD ?
>>12718557Learn logic
Since retards can't use Niji or VShojo to shitpost against Hololive today, it's EN vs JP turn? Cute, aren't you?
And this is why we need Nijisanji as a punching bag.Sorry Nijibros but it's the only way to keep this thread under control
>Pegor retained 50k plus and even bounced back to 54k after doing a second playthrough.Impressive retention desu.
>>12718538I never contested this anon, Gura has many(if not the most) viral animations and clips. I was just saying eekum bokum and ankha dance are the top tier ones.
>>12717010Yeah, but people /here/ don't care about reddit
Not even chonoir stream can save this day for nijisanji.
>>12718552>>12718548VOD views are literally worthless, if I stay 30 seconds in a video that's +1 view. A streamer with no viewer retention and rotating audiences are counted towards VOD views, but that's not what youtube is optimizing for, and it is therefore an irrelevant metric.
>>12718554huh, he was streaming? at least he made it on the list I guess...>>12718569The girl that hosts the bamco america channel is an enfag, which is great for sponsorships.
>12718548>ImaginaryAt least try to cover yourself kek
>>12718521Aki 4k and RBC 15k, I hope they get more
Jun T Posing on his wife Pekora with that 100k CCV against peko's 54k CCV
>>12718554King . .
Since having a 2snack animation can be very beneficial to your growth, I wonder which Holo members will sweeten him up to get that clout.
>>12718513Myth exploding out of the gate and putting them on roughly equal footing was a huge factor for continued growth and success, an underrated one I think. JOP get excited about Gura collabs the same way EOP look forward to Pekora or Marine.
>>12718626No need to cope so hard Nijinigger newfag
>>12718554it's over...
Shut the FUCK up, Pekora's numbers are rising again
Can we stop talking about EN vs JP?Talk about niji midget now!
>>12718662Ollie if anything
>>12718626KAMITSUBAKI : Ogey
>>12718662>sweeten It's something as simple as mentioning them somewhere desu. They could commission him for projects afterwards.
>>12718626>>12718669Not to mention that stream vod ads doesnt generate that much revenue
Kneel and lick peko
>>12718626>but that's not what youtube is optimizing for, and it is therefore an irrelevant metricSo you are saying that all non-streaming youtuber is irrelevant because their income is basically calculate by VOD
>>12718678holy fuck 57k, i fucking kneel pekkers
>>12718694But we are talking about en being a midget now?
Since the Holo Sports Fes two days before, the number of Korean clips for Hololive has increased 200+ more.
>>12718056>No 60k peakWelp, pack it up. We're done here.
>>12718668This. JOPs love Gura, Mori and even fucking Kronii. They're holo giants, not niji midgets in a sea of nijis
>>12718678She's doing the Korone gets arrested ending, it's the best one.
>>12717537We had Halloween massacre, how do we call the day?
>>12718737Already on it
>>12718773Mr. Koro massacre.
>>12718761I think Koreans love Kronii more than JOPs
>>12718345I think the reason Kiara might be appealing despite lower numbers is that her core audience are weebs who are more open to playing anime JRPGs, but probably never really know or tried out Tales or SMT were it not for Kiara. This makes them likely to actually buy the game and become new fans which is the most important thing for sponsors.
Ctrl+f holo>55 resultsCtrl+f niji>44 resultsThis thread really loves nijisanji huh
>>12718751Gura is in top 10 today, anon?Where are the nijis bros...?
>>12718746Stream vod and 10 min clip vod have different way to get ad revenue basing on what shibuya hal dislse
Poor nijis
>>12718818Disclosed >>12718746
>>12718806This, anyone pretending that Pekora's audience has the same marketing potential as Kiara's is just plain ignorant of how advertising works.
>>12718806It’d crack me up if Kiara ends up being the reason Hololive gets Atlus perms.Highly unlikely but just a thought.
>>12718813Hey! At least Mito finally broke 10k today!
>>12718737SNIFFFFFFF
>>12718668Yeah. Because of their explosive growth, HoloEn as a branch was treated by the main branch as an equal. Something that HoloCN never had and HoloID just recently got thanks to PekoMoona. Councils transition was pretty much seamless because of that as well
>>12718818He also plays oh so much Apex, so it's very likely his audience isn't the same as the Hololive audience though. We know how apexfags and fpsfags work, they aren't going to bother going to an old VOD and watching it either.
>>12718806Cover has sold our data to the big companies and they ran HoloEn's numbers through their algos and found Kiara to be the best candidate.
Kneel.
>>12718750wait, that can't be true it's too much
>Pekora endsYou know the drill
can nijis use the korone buff game lmaoooo
>>12718884And she got a higher peak than the Niji 3D live of the day....
>>12718951jerk off?
>>12718626Eh? YouTube pays for views not ccv. Most of the money YouTube pays out goes to channels with no live streams at all.
>>12717524Mr.Koro ... I kneel
>>12718813Hal is a honorary niji!
Nothing big going on to get a proper funneling.
>>12718554>Nips only care about ApexKek, is not better, but get fucked Activision
>>12718927PEKO LOVE
>>12718919did you actually check out what hal said about vod revenue
>>12718942Just type Hololive hashtag in Korean on YT and it will show you how many clips are available. During Sports Fes, it was 9.1k clips, but the number today is 9.3k clips. There was a lot of old stream moments finally being subbed in KR.
So who will get the ILLEGAL VIEW FUNNELLING.
>>12718967maybe but anykara is too retarded to actually do it
Just notice that top 5 indies are not JP.If you are JP and want a high subs you have to join big company.
>>12719032Correction, Rikkun is too prideful to use something created by an old man.
>>12719004NTA, but humor me. I'm pretty sure it's been posted before but it's been a while since I've read through it.
>>12718951P-Peko chan!
>>12719045the spic queen and who else?
Since the topic of OkaKoro got brought up, how about we discuss about which ships are the most popular? Kronii and Mumei numbers have been going strong even though they don't have 1 on 1 collabs that much. PekoMiko seems like it'd be the most popular but is it really? Are there other pairings that are close to popularity to theirs or maybe even more?
>>12718942I actually feel a little bit for clippers. There’s six+ viewpoints with hours of content and they want to harvest the best clips as fast as possible. That plus regular streams means they have basically infinite content to work with. Blessing and a curse
>>12719045Wut? By which metric, surely not CCV
>>12719100Peko + any gen 3 are pretty strong.
>>12719062imagine anycolor having to ask cover for permissions to stream the game lmao
>>12719100SubaLuna is growing more powerful by the day.
>>12719066here >>5806822
>>12719100Being able to cause a 15k spike in ccv just by pekomiko talking together is a hard feat.
>>12719100>Are there other pairings that are close to popularity to theirs or maybe even more?NoeFure, to a point they had to discourage shipping to curb the enthusiasm of the audience
>>12719131kek
>>12719100KanaCoco (RIP), NeneLamy, BotanLamy, ShubaLuna, AquShio.
This is depressing to look at... Even Matsuri, Aki and choco is winning some nijis. Heck, add in anya and risu.
>>12719100How would you judge something like that? Art tags on Twitter in the last 90 days? One off events can spark interest again too. I look forward to an avalanche of new shipping art when Myth all visit JP and have Holohouse EN. Speaking of which I feel like when that happens it will be massive for numbers for along while
Luna is playing DDLC, is this still a buff game?
So today proves that Nousagi are no better than Chumbuds when it comes to ignoring the rest of Hololive and only watching their own mentally ill oshi?When you think of who to watch play a game featuring Korone you probably think of Okayu first and then Miko second. Those are the two Hololive members who are most closely associated with Korone. But no, its fucking Pekora that gets the highest viewership. Noutoddlers are beyond saving at this point and they clearly don't care about Hololive.
>>12719100Pekomarine is pretty strong pekkers is just not a fan of shipping.
For future Holo, is there any niches that Cover can find new recruits? It seems like every of their hire is so different in contents that it might be hard for them to target more niches.
>>12719131that would be actually funny
>>12719194Given how mediocre gen 5 ended up being they are surely having a hard time recruiting anyone for gen 6.
>>12716574Nice fake anonchama.
Here is food for thought>about 24k nousagi stick for the talking / SC thanking part of Pekora streamsStrong as fuck performance
>12719192ogey
>>12719122VOD course, not all of them are streamers
>>12718554maybe he should play the korogame too!
>>12719180Aki has 4.7k atm
Oh gen5 schizo is back.
>>12719134>On the other hand, even though livestreams also generate Ad Revenue, the fact that they aren't generating many views after some days passing and apparently they have lesser value in revenue generated for livestream compared to video upload made the latter becoming main source of his income.Wait so video upload like songs and shorts could gives you more money?
>>12719100Gura and Shion, kusogaki duo
>gen5 schizo in the houseI wonder how he feels now that he can't say "Gen5 has no 1M subs streamer" anymore
>>12719223My bad, I mean subs
>>12719134https://youtu.be/NLO5-IyS5pEadd youtube premium revenue from long stream vods and it actually becomes their biggest earning source by far
>>12719219Kek, atleast check twitter before spouting shit
>>12718810it's a neutral thread, not a specific corpo general
I wish gen5 shizo would make a "harry potter mediocre" copypasta equivalent at this point lmao.
>>12719131Why would the number 1 vtuber company in the world would ask for something from a small indie company which is not even famous in their own country ?
>12719192>popular streamer gets more viewsHow could this happen??
>>12719242apparently vod views from video uploads give more money than vod views of archived livestreams view for view, you can follow the comment chain down for more translation and analysis or upwards for hal's original note post in japanese
>>12719261Then I don't get what you are called "indie" if not "indie streamer".
>>12719186I think its a buff game if the person playing is easily spooked, I don't think it will give that much for Luna since isn't she one of the more harder to scare girls?
Covers financial report next year is gonna be really interesting to see.
If any Nijis play the Korogame they are never going to hear the end of it in this thread. That will be the ultimate sign of submission to Cover and Hololive.
>>12719219anon...https://twitter.com/takanashikiara/status/1457692746836287494
>>12719264How many people actually pay for Youtube Premium though?
>>12719310anycolor's should be coming out first though right? when is it?
>>12719242Ads pay based on how many people view them. Not many people are going to watch one year old Apex VODs.
Quickly King!! Play the Korogame to catch the funnel.
>>12719312They'll never hear the end of it from their own "fans".
>>12719313Here, to save everybody a trip offsite
Is it just me or Holostars are also beating NijiEN in CCV as well despite NijiEN having the wider viewer base?
>>12719134Ah, okay. Lemme copy-paste and digest the points on ad-rev then- Hal himself is pretty surprised after finishing the chart. He knew Ad Revenue played a big part into his income but didn't know it was this significant.>This shouldn't be a surprise and likely holds true for the Holomem. YT is a video watching site first- He made a point where old video uploads play a great value since people are still watching it from time to time, even when they're old. And all of them pile up to contribute big into the Ad Revenue.>I'm guessing he means things like clips and whatnot here. Yes, that also makes sense, highlight reels are great replay value even months after they've happened, especially for something like Apex or any other FPS- On the other hand, even though livestreams also generate Ad Revenue, the fact that they aren't generating many views after some days passing and apparently they have lesser value in revenue generated for livestream compared to video upload made the latter becoming main source of his income.>Not generating views once several days have passed? That's not the case for some Holomem like Gura. Just look at her continued growth on some of her vods (*not all of them, but many). On this point, any Holomem that has continued Vod growth days or weeks after the original stream will continue to gain adrev, unlike someone like Hal who appears to have stated that his old VODs don't really get many views. Also I do get that the revenue for ads may be calculated differently, but we also have to factor in YT premium VOD views, which muddies the waters a bit. - Pointing out that since video uploads are also connected to the increase of subscriber count, it's pretty strong.>Hal doesn't have a dedicated clipping scene like Hololive, so it makes sense for him to have highlight videos uploaded to his channel to contribute to his growth. Meanwhile, Hololive has basically outsourced this and hacked the YT algo as a resultI'm welcome to corrections if you see anything that's incorrect.
>>12719326enough for youtube to rig the algo in favor of hololive
>>1271932650 million people apparently
>>12719194Give HoloGoth or HoloMetal.
>>12719096From userlocal : 1. Nimu Ch. ES2. PARRA ES3. GreatMoonAroma 대월향 KR4. Srta Catana ES5.Nimu ES6.강 지 KR7. 渋谷ハル JP (He is corp. now? )
>>12719342Sorry mate, the wormhole closed and HQ closed the iris, no more streamers crossing the stargate today>>12719352>Is it just me or Holostars are also beating NijiEN in CCV as wellI'll run the numbers for November so far, but I truly doubt
>>12716751Nijisanji
>>12719326It's a better deal than Spotify honestly. Unlike spotify, YT lets you put playlists of every remix made by people, is ad free for people who watch YT everyday and you can also listen to streams in the background.
>>12719326Not many. Rushia earier play pekkers stream earlier and she got hit by nintendo ads. Kek
>>12719312>But they already didhttps://youtu.be/7dGJ4BfRg2Ehttps://youtu.be/XpvVJORJIwA
>>12718523Anon, this is not what people mean by "Nijipost"
>>12719326https://blog.youtube/news-and-events/50-million/50 millions per September 2021. For mobile user, which is a fucking lot, it is a good deal.
>>12719305Indie "vtuber" not streamer
>>127193522 Holostars manage to beat the weakest NijiENsRoberu and Astel.The rest of them are mid 500s and below for CCV.
>>12719363there's also a later comment >>5811904 that points out hal has less total video upload only views than total livestream vod views, but still claims the former has made him more income so clearly there's a disparity in the amount of money YT gives out on a per view basis depending on whether it's from a video only upload or a livestream
>>12719363Pretty good summarization
>>12719414>Even one of their top female kneel to a Holo...
>>12719413Goddammit Cover, pay premium for your employees. Suisei also got hit by ads sometime when playing karaoke track.
>>12719264Any regular Kiara watcher probably has 90%+ of their viewtime dedicated to her channel, which means almost all the premium revenue from that member/watcher goes to her. Premium is getting popularish and had like 50 million subscribers at 12 bucks a pop in September so there’s 600M minus YouTube’s cut that is divided up by overall watch time. Vtubers tend to have insane watch time overall so it’s probably a pretty significant source of income
>>12719383>ES and KRyep, these two will be the next Hololive branches, any bets which comes first?
WHO WOULD WIN THIS HEAD TO HEAD BATTLE OF "JUST TALKING" STREAMS>The queen of CCV, the great blue menace, the saichou of UsaKen, the second most watched female streamer and the most watched female vtuber in hours watched armed with a deadly and illegal view funneling of the largest vtuber company in the world and the second largest in Japan?>one humble head maido talking about nothing while banning niggers from his imageboard for dissing his waifu?THE ANSWER WILL ANGER AND CONFUSE YOU!
>>12719262Kek I kneel Bitch hasn't updated the Youtube schedule, when I'm supposed to know that shit?
>>12719326Same number of people who buys winrar
>>12718879The seethe will make Global and the split threads unusable for a day
>>12719497>no mentioning of Pekora's braid in a shitpost literally containing herKill yourself
>>12719437Yes, shorts, videos and livestreams all have different Ad payouts, but of course, there's also this to confound things>>12719426I don't know how many people with YT premium are watching someone like Hal vs Hololive, but it is clear that YT premium is probably contributing a non-insignificant amount to the payouts of holomem who have good vod-view growth (and watchtime on those vods). I really wish, that one day someone would leak a batch of metrics for a month from YT, just so we could really SEE some concrete numbers on these sorts of things. Goddamnit.
>>12719493KR is much safer. A JP company will have a much better understanding of the KR market than ES which is a weird unruly mishmash of multiple different countries
>>12719426Seems to include YouTube Music with those numbers, but I don't know if they're separate products.
>6.1k on aki MC>4.1k on Choco MC>7.7K on Matsuri MCGood numbers for them.
>>12719546safer and easy to set up, even a possible future 3D would be easy
>>12719537I think Spiffing Brit showed his revenue metrics.>>12719551Music is included with Premium
>>12719551Music is included in premium, which is what most people care about especially for mobile
>>12719383Parra is a convert and really shouldn't be counted.
>Pekora is excited about doing a sponsored stream of a game she can't announce yet.Imagine the seethe if this is SMTV
>>12719584Did he? I don't think he actually stated numbers (because ToS), only stated that YT premium contributed an outsized proportion of revenue for livestreams.
>>12719572I thought Matsuri was a dying Holo…
>>12719605She also mentioned a new manager earlier, didn't she? Seems like there is some sort of turnover with Cover management mid management
>>12719612The power of funnels and loyal simps.
In "Oh these are numbers we haven't see in a while"Matsuri pulling in 7k+ playing MC. What is she doing? Fooling around with Aki.YOU STUPID FUCKING MENHERA. FIX YOUR ISSUES WITHIN HOLOLIVE FIRST BEFORE WANDERING OFF TO COLLAB WITH ANYONE ELSE ARGH.
>>12719584Nah Spiffing Brit have great info but he just said premium was four times ad revenue and his rimworld livestream was one of his most lucrative videos for that reason. But no exact dollar amounts. But based on that info and some basic logic… we way overestimate sc revenue’s importance.
>>12719612She's barely ahead of Aki in this thread, and trails her in the October median. That can't be a good sign
This is my rrat but does anyone feel like this week might be a sort of alpha test for Cover to see if Korea can be a potential market for expansion? It's just that there are quite a few streams on EN and ID side that cater to Korean.
>>12719605Wouldn’t doubt it, unlike EN, JP doesn’t post schedules.
>>127196121. Believing anything comming from /vt/ or even 4chan at all.2. She has her debuffs and buffs every now and then. They are just exagerated due to to her subs count which points that her numbers should be higher, other than that is pretty much normal.
>>12719622Gen 6 confirmed?
>>12719622Not for Pekora. She just mentioned that there were many new managers at office today.
>>12719622marine also said she has a new manager on her zatsu today one with a cute voice
>>12719605Alpha I kneel
>>12719648Stop...nijiKR is already dead...
>>12719636I mean she’s not an idiot if she just limited Apex and spent more time with her Holo colleagues to generate some good clips she could rebuild her audience within a year. But apparently she just doesn’t care that much
>>12719622Marine too iirc.With lots of new hires, they're likely trying to shuffle in new people into new spots of the org, and loyal managers that have done well are likely being reallocated to the talents who need them the most or are being promoted within to fill slots that need filling.I'm guessing they're also trying to blunt the power of those that fucked Coco over, as if there's enough 'new middle management' that's more in-line with A-chan and Yagoo's visions, it'll be easier to stop the stonewalling that Coco got from happening to another Holomem if they don't deserve it.
>>12719648are you the anon that posted on r/holo and got deleted?
>>12719647I'm surprised Aki somewhat maintained her numbers after the big reddit saviorfag project. I was pretty sure she'd be back to where she was less than a year later.
>>12719681I wonder if these managers work in the office or work from home. This might be a tough job for those handling EN.
>>12719725why so jagged.
>>12719715Nah, she's even got long-time members from that time too. It's actually touching she wasn't abandoned as a saviorfag project, UNLIKE A CERTAIN SITE THAT LIKES TO ABANDON THEIR PROJECTS.
>>12719681>>12719687I hope now they have 1 manager for 1 girl.>>12719638Well it's the only available metric for us. We can also guesstimate merch sale like Suisei's CD but then again it's an incomplete data.>>12719746Ahoge....
>>12719715The power of Saviorfagging anon, is the power of Saviorfagging.
>>12719681If you’ve ever been at a small company that actually moved up to the big leagues there’s always this awkward period where you have some old guard who paid their dues who just aren’t as talented as the new hires that were attracted by your recent success. You either have to promote them or find new roles for them so the new blood can implement their ideas. I feel like Cover is the process of doing this now. Like Ame speaks fondly of Jenma but now also has Henma acting as her production assistant as much as a manager.
Luna Doki Doki Literal Club and RBC with the new Korone game, EOPs our time has come
>>12719648Did you come from reddit? The guy who keeps trying to push the idea of holoKR
>>12719783hopefully the shuffle doesn't fuck any holos in the process.
>>12719783So like Sora
>>12719819A few people always get fucked in the process. Or sometimes even worse they actually benefit overall but it gets personal and feelings get hurt. Cover has a autistic girls that need to be handled delicately so it’s not an easy task
>>12719493KR in 2022, ES probably 2024
>>12719783Wait, who's Henma?
>>12719803Honestly it feels they are just trying to connect with all the fanbases around the globe. A lot of EN has Koreans in chat so they are probably just showcasing love for them. That anon is thinking way to ahead.
>>12719842>A few people always get fucked in the process.Nah, from my experience with this type of corps (doing all sorts of "system support" for HR and financial departments) people usually "fall upwards" and get promoted out of the way.That, incidentally, is what I assume happened to YuujinA, she likely started as Sora's personal assistant (and some sort of manager) and ended up rising all the way to "producer" without becoming management in itself
>>12719869Ame’s new manager.
>>12718572SocialBlade
>>12719824No the key difference with Sora is she can plug away and get modest numbers and be fine making six figures. If you are management and you can’t be promoted and there someone better for your role… sometimes there’s not much that can be done with you. Sora’s existence doesn’t prevent Gura from flourishing. Old guard dead weight middle management for sure can. Especially if they have allies
>>12719819As long as they don't hire someone like gokisei's first manager then it's fine.
>>12719737>why so jagged. On a chart with 100 as the Y axis max even 2 people joining or leaving would leave a jagged line
>>12719892Promoting people out of the way can work but if you promote someone beyond their abilities and they have actual responsibilities it can get ugly fast, Michael Scott style
I remember some people saying things about how a vtuber's lifespan can be short. However, with the global success of Cover, will this belief be proven wrong in the future?
>Mori with 340k views on her latest Minecraft streamwtf? I thought MC was supposed to be a debuff for Mori.
>>12719928>k but if you promote someone beyond their abilities and they have actual responsibilitiesThis is something I NEVER saw happening. Every single time it is the exact same situation>rise in "title" and nominal pay, same responsibilities at best or, more commonly, less responsibilities Imagine a game development environment. A mediocre coder that is liked by the team for his people skills and out of the box ideas would be promoted to>vice president of innovationrelieved of his coding responsibilities and be allowed to focus on what people like about him>the ideas he bring to the table at the meetings
>>12719928Now I demand an Office-style Hololive show. It, combined with HoloGra's spastic writing, can either be really good, or a beautiful train wreck.
>>12719970>7 hours stream with 11k average CCV
>>12719970340k views for a 7 hours stream is really average these days
>>12718366last time i check (seconds ago) she has 2.6k ccv
>>12720047How do you check mengen CCV?
Which Hololive member has the most membership, Pekora, Miko or Gura? Genuine question, more bait here.
>8k on matsuri
>>12719904I imagine that’s part of why Gen 6 is taking forever. Their last Gen had a graduation right off the bat which really crippled them early on.On top of that they had a terrible manager.
>>12720088I mean, NO bait
>>12719969Depends what kind of timeframe we're talking about hereVtuber as a whole hasn't even passed their 5 year marks yet, while a lot of content creators on YT has been doing this shit for decades already
>>12720088No one will ever know anon.
>>12720075Youtube has a bug both in the user interface and in the API. It is possible to check if you add the mengen to a playlist or if you have the URL for the stream
>>12720088Someone posted this a while back
Help me here anons. Is this "Sakura Coromin" a vtuber?https://www.youtube.com/c/sakuracorominCh/aboutShe pulled almost 8k with this ongoing streamshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcHCuvOTT7oand I never saw her name or herself around. All I know is that she calls herself a vtuber since 2018 or 2019Anyone has more info on her?
>>12720123Do you check it from desktop or mobile interface?
>>12720140That's from the gura fan discord right? I don't know how many of those are active though, since we know members cycle.
>>12720075like/add the video to some playlist before it turns into member onlythen try to play it from your phone, it will not plays but you can see the ccv or view count if the stream already finished only works with jp members because en don't set their member only stream public first
>>12719970Seems like she's also trying to add her gimmick in jump king to her endurance streams, also I just checked her SC this week and she earned 13k+, she's a monster SC earner in EN side wtf
>>12720162Not me, anons. And on both, each of them has a different bug
>>12719970Her MC debuff is counteracted by her buff of people loving to watch her sit in open VC for hours and get ghosted by every other Holo.>>1272001411k average is actually a good CCV for Mori on anything but Jump King.
>>12720166I have Lamy membership but it doesn't show me the view count for her latest mengen.
>>12720213On phone, add it to your playlist, play the video through the playlist feature and then on the bottom click the playlist so the list comes up.
>>12718321>SchizosagisBut pekora will have sponsored stream this week and probably it's from atlus
I feel like if Cover wanted to really go for a the kill they would have Gura do a kpop themed unarchived Karaoke knowing it would be clipped to hell and back. Even better have Kronii or Ina on discord or even in stream to help interact with chat. That would do decent numbers on its own but KR bros would go berserk for it. I feel like it wouldn’t take much to get KR to think of vtubers like kpop groups
>>12720261Wouldnt it be the new FF game she premiered weeks ago? May be an Early Access version or whatever.
>>12720249Thank you anon it worked
>>12720164the only thing i know about her is that marine said recently that she has a collab with her soon
I can see it, its coming, another golden era for Hololive
>>12719970>Hololive Minecraft>DebuffYou're so wrong anon
Have another one.
>>12720275Gura lerning a korean song will take her months. She's really bad at learning new jp songs. How long do you think it will take her to learn a full korean song? Maybe if she learns them with a teacher.
>>12720088Nobody knows for sure, but those 3 have a ton for sure.
>>12720164Her name used to be Corona but she changed it for obvious reasons
>>12720424Nah Gura sings plenty of JP songs without really speaking any JP. She’s a parrot. Her pronunciation is really good in both JP and KR for someone who doesn’t speak either. If your average teenage white girl can learn a dozen kpop songs Gura can too.
>>12720387Holy shit
>>12719413>>12719472holomem account is kind of limited in terms of features like membership and premiumI remember one of them bought premium then having trouble when trying to set up streams so she canceled itthey also can't member other holomem and have to use alt account to watch their genmate member stream
>>12720465Anon. Again. A full song. There is a reason why she barely does any archived. And then you are asking to learn what? 10 songs? She's going to take 6months
>>12720465Her last archived karaoke where she sang in JP was 9 months ago.
>>12720512Gura already sang a full Korean song and it’s been clipped for like 700k views. Learning a song isn’t some Herculean feat or anything. Kpop has plenty of English translated songs too
>>12720088
>>12720512As a former kpopfag learning kpop song isn't all that hard. Theres alot of this in YT. She can just learn this fast.
woah2, kenmochi going for that clutch
>>12720573April is 7 months ago, no one has new data of the recent time?
>>12720571Anon. You are asking for a whole stream of just korean songs. When has she ever sang in a full stream of just JP songs? Just because she can sing 1 song doesn't mean she can even do a whole set after 1-3 practice. If you don't know. She practices and redoes a lot offline. It takes her weeks to actually schedule an actual karaoke and it would actually just contain 2-3 jp songs at best.
>>12720619>19kNot big enough anon.
>>12720573>WatameNo wonder she got a sololive.
>>12720618Anon. That is 1 song. Now choose all 9 other kpop song with 90% English and then send it to her. Last time i checked it's been 9 months since she sang a full set of all jp songs.
>>12720619It's count as tomorrow
Most recent peko mengen zatsudan
>>12720618You would have made sense if you asked her to release a cover like Moona because that can be replayed and she can net more profit from that
>>12720387what was this a karaoke?>>12720563using archived karaoke isn't a good measure since gura sings JP songs in her unarchived ones. she did this (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fKShVu1XRA)) in the karaoke at the start of october and had a JP song duet with ame in the karaoke from 2 weeks ago
>>12720426ASMR most likely got some rewatch, I think a zatsudan stream would give more accurate number.
>>12720682Popular kpop song are repetitive as fuck unless Gura try some kpop song with rap she won't have problem singing multiple of those.
>>12720618>>12720644You can tell the posters here have basically no contact with Teen girls. They can sing along to dozens of kpop songs even if they are only mild Koreaboos. The real hardcore ones actually learn Korean, which is actually not that hard since the alphabet is pretty straightforward to learn and type.
>>12720739Retard I never said she doesn't. I said she barely does a full set of all foreign songs. She always sings English songs in majority. She practices the foreign songs over and over. It takes her awhile to get it.
>>12720739Zatsudan a day before her sololive.
>>12720641No, but we do have the raw data off of something like kaggle, it would be a matter of coming through it for unique # member chatters for a minimum baseline.
>>12720780Anon. Gura is not a teen girl. And you are asking someone to learn a new language on top of trying to learn nip. She's really not the type to fuck it unless it's English songs.
>>12719746>>12719762speak for yourself. i have not left my green,retarded daughter alone despite her getting the apex fever
Outside Hololive, Hachi is most likely one of the most successful vsinger.
>>12720792i think the main reason she mainly does English songs is since its what most people want to listen to. in the same karaoke that had the Moana one i linked she did 2 other JP songs
>>12720840I thought it was Kaf
>>12720868I think Kaf never did a karaoke stream.
>>12720780Korean is way harder than moon iirc, spoken Korean at least. They have stuff that are really hard to pronounce. I personally couldn't hear the difference between some syllables even with a native teaching me.
>>12720837She doesn't need to learn the language. This is an example of one of the popular kpop song in 2016Chorus :Nal neomuneomuneomuNeomuneomuneomuneomuneomuneomuNeomuneomuneomuneomuneomuneomuJohahamyeon geuttae malhaejwoNaega jakkujakkujakkuJakkujakkujakkujakkujakkuJakkujakkujakkujakkujakkuTteooreumyeon geuttae bulleojwo
>>12720837No. Just pointing out learning a song isn’t particularly difficult. Not sure why you think it’s so hard. Teen girls do it in a day or two.
>>12720922Sure. Give it a shot. Send her an sc telling her to sing 10 song all in Korean.
>>12720837You are making it sound a whole more complicated than it is. If it is a song you like you can learn to sing it even without knowing the language.I learned to sing this song back when I didn't even know Japanesehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gI_zC7_mlEActually learning what it means was my main motivation back then
>>12720929I'm not pointing out it was hard or whatever. I'm it was hard for her. And she doesn't even sings foreign songs in majority to begin with. Again. It's been 9 months since she did an archived karaoke with all JP songs.
>>12720140>>12720165Many of those are probably inactive. There were a bit more than 11.2k members with some sort of interactions (join / rejoin / upgrade membership or send chat message / SC / member monthly message) during Gura’s streams in Oct. While there were definitely “silent” members, I doubt as many as 30+ thousands of Gura’s members never interacted with her stream a single time throughout an entire month
>>12720922Send us a clip of you singing it anon, see how you do
>>12720922Yeah kpop for the most part isn’t known for lyrical complexity this isn’t like Suisei trying Red. Two verses and a chorus which a significant amount of the time is literally 2-3 words. She could go throwback and do Girls Genration. Gee and Run Devil Run have like maybe 8 unique lines to learn each.
With people referencing that spiffing brit guy video about his most profitable video with millions of views, and he mentioned Watch time.Wouldnt that make Noel the member with videos with highest Watch time, in her ASMR?Unlike a game stream with millions of views where people might just look at timestamps for interesting moment, an ASMR will most likely have people listen/watch from start to finish, minus some intro/out.And she has many ASMR streams with millions of views.
Anon here never watched Suisei's stream where she learnt how to sing Red (Mori's song) huh
>>12720945lol why would I do that? Im just pointing out that its not that hard to learn kpop song in general because its repetitive.
>>12720929Most teen girls don't sing with 20k+ people watching anon
>>12721026Noel makes an absolute shitload of money we know that much at least. There is however diminishing returns. Once most of your time is spent on a vtuber they don’t get anything more than your premium contribution so repeat views in a short time span don’t mean much.
>>12721047Red is insanely tough for JPs to sing. The rap parts are hard for English speakers.
>>12721067You seem to have a big idea on your head. You think it's easy because it was easy for you. This is Gura we are talking about. But you sure seem to have a massive library of foreign songs she learned in 2-3 days.
>>12721079The Watch time should still count though. Each of her views, despite being repeated one, should still count towards the Watch time of a video. May be YT stops after the 5th attempt in a day, similar to views, but +5h more is +5h more still.
>>12717958If she got paid a proper rate, around a million bucks just for the first game.
It would be funny if in the future, a former NijiKR joins HoloKR and their CCV shoots up 6 times more than what they have as a NijiKR member.
>>12720377Minecraft being an outright debuff for Mori is just a meme, however it truly isnt a buff for her like it is for other Holos.
>>12721232While you're right, I somehow doubt that Sega actually ponied up that much cash. A 6 digit flat amount for completion in return for future sponsorship deals makes more sense, but then again we aren't privy to the exacts of these deals.
>>12721098She managed to do it though https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9cSePmWLFU
>>12721249That is bound to happe. They may take the myth route too and hire content creators with streaming experience
>>12720164shes an old school
>>12721232Nah this is where unique views and ccv start to diverge. Also more hours get discounted. Six figures for sure but a million is probably significantly too high. On the flip side every stream gets clippers. I’m really curious how cover markers the fact that clippers will add 10s-100s of thousands of additional views on any sponsored stream
With the talk about the SMTV sponsorship, what game exactly will Gura audience buy if she shills? JRPG is a no go from the talk of it.
>>12721316>managedlong shot
>>12721444Rythm games
>>12721444Cute & Funny Games
>>12718629this will never fail to amuse me kek.
>>12721444Taco bell
>>12721444Food, Rhythm games, whatever she ACTUALLY finds interest in, because that last one is what'll get chumbuds interested in it too. Like, scarlet nexus? Bad choice.New DMC game? You bet your ass Gura would jump on that in a heartbeat.
Pekora wants to play XIV. Wouldn't that hurt her numbers?
>>12721744It...well, look. If ANY Holo could make this work, and clear FFXIV ARR in like, 5-6 streams, it's Pekora. Also, you bet your fucking ass the JP mod team is going to be keeping a VERY close eye on any funny business if Pekora is playing because they don't want a repeat of what happened with Asmongold happening with Pekora. If she wants to continue form there, doing it as a once-a-week thing would actually not be bad if she's interested.
>>12721744She only wants to play XIV on 1 stream before radio thing.
>>12721316Not well.
>>12721501The matching color scheme makes it even better
>>12721744Probably, but if she is willing to go through Xenoblade I doubt she cares that much.
>>12721829>because they don't want a repeat of what happened with Asmongold happening with PekoraWUT? QRD?
>>12721949Asmongold got trolled by a bunch of idiots when he first started playing FFXIV. Bodyblocking NPCs, killing mobs he needed for quest advancement, just general douchenozzle bullshit. The moderation team initially were trying to clear with their uppers if they should go fully HOLY WRATH and smite the shit outta them, and once they got the go ahead, MASS BANS + PUNISHMENT for the idiots. His time after that was much better.If what this anon said is true though >>12721879it won't be too bad, but you can bet your ass that there will be at least 1-2 mods watching over in case any shit gets started by idiots.
>>12721949Players flock to the streamer so the map got congested and the stream can't see anything.
>>12721949stream snipers for Asmongold. However there's an even earlier incident in JP where a nip celebrity was harassed onstream for being a shit player. Squeenix went down on them hard
>>12721948I think most of her audience is hololive JP audience, so bad games dont filter them out and never return, cuz they can just watch some other holos in the meantime.Meanwhile, if an EN like Gura plays those kinds of filter games for a long time I bet a lot of her audience will just not come back. Perhaps it is just a Western vs JP culture.
>>12722018>>12722035>>12722055I wonder if the pool will be closed there too
is the top streams anon just fucking dead now? did he jerk himself to dead after seeing all the streams making it?
>>12722103Look, Gura's numbers may have tanked with MH Rise, but they did go back up after. It's different though yea, mostly because JP has so many more talents in a much more condensed timezone slotting vs EN.
Where's today's tally? It's past midnight JST.
>>12722167Probably waiting for next thread, since this one's almost done.
>>12722138Not with Squeenix GMs watching like a hawk
>>12721829I think Asmon probably is a bigger target for that sort of toxicity. I do agree they'll probably be monitoring it, especially this close to the expansion release. That being said, It's not going to be the least popular game she has played either, so I doubt she has much to worry about.
What a good day for Hololive, I've never seen such mogging since the legendary Holo Sport Fes. I still remember it like it was yesterday.
>>12722254For all the concern Kiara’s wow stream and Pekoras tf2 streams went fine. Then again we did have the gta bs. With mods watching it should be fine. If there is a big HoloEN collab they will be working overtime though
>>12722254>>12721829number bunny should just play it offline like FBK then stream heavensward.
>>12722254FFXIV's numbers have skyrocketed after the release of Shadowbringers and the relatively poor showing by WoW. Between people hearing "This is THE BEST FF game" and "Oh, WoW bloody sucks right now', they're going to have like, 2m+ active players on release of Endwalker. Servers are gonna be stress-tested pretty severely once early December hits. (I agree btw, Shadowbringers is probably the best FF story since FF6, and imo, edges it out thanks to the build-up and payoff over multiple expansions).
>>12717524would nijis play this game? the numbers seem pretty potent
>>12721285I tend to agree. Maybe Sega threw in the atlus sponsorships.
>>12722193Are there some examples, observed events that justified the timezone reason some people use?Normally it concerns with CCV, but if there are events that showcase the behavior then the reason is probably true.
>>12722364I want to see the seethe on the NijiEN thread if they play it.
>>12722364And risk the wrath of the shizos side of the fanbase? unlikely.
>>12721373More hours would typically get a premium, not a discount because you have to offset the opportunity cost your asking of the streamer. If you offered less and less money for more and more hours, nobody would take that over multiple short sponsors.
>>12722420I thought they hated HoloEN. Everyone loves Mr Koro.
>>12722619They hate Hololive as a whole.They keep calling themselves former Holofans until they saw the light of Nijisanji or some shit.
>>127223641k dislike...
It seems like Kson's collab with Pikamee didn't get that high viewership. Is ot just me or she is heavily aligning herself with VOMS?
>>12722677If that why they used /hlg/ and /hlgg/ memes? >hating KoroneThe only antis I've seen for her are old NND subhumans.
>>12722713more like getting paid to play with them
>>12722677The most fervent ones are always the converts...Ex-holofags are more obnoxious than any other group.
>>12722677>They keep calling themselves former Holofans until they saw the light of Nijisanji or some shit.kek, it's the oldest trick in the book>Not gonna lie, former Trump voter here. This is fucking hilarious watching Trump crash and burn. But in all seriousness we can't let this guy get the nuclear codes.
>>12722619think again
>>12722364>>12722431I didn't see anyone care on the japanese side that Hima was kinda blowing hololive in her collabs with Polka. Even the Nijisanji JP general on here didn't care.
>>12722745>convertsIt isn't a religion, it's adults pretending to be anime characters. Just enjoy, seriously.
>>12722745>Ex-holofagsyou know that majority of those self-proclaimed ex-holofags never watched holos at the first place, right?
>>12722825Lol, they are acting like Holo is some sort of dark entity or something.
>>12722929Cover is.>>12722825Marine is particularly hated. Had it been someone else like Lamy or Flare no one would care.
>>12722952>Marine is particularly hated.Why particularly?
>>12722952Exhibit a on why nijiniggers deserve their name.
>>12722825I always assumed this was a meme. Niji fans are actually like this? Talk about a newfag filter
>>12723037Do you mean the dislike on gibara channel didn't clue you in? the same happens to luna before too.
>>12718077Go and see the comments on her VODs. There are barely any english ones nowadays.
>>12722825No wonder these threads turn into such a pile of shit at times.
Cracks me up how random Gura singing clips go viral. Imo, it's a strong reason for her channel growth https://youtu.be/b_4U4zDuKsA
>>12722825>I swear ONLY NijiEN fags acts like niggers and thats only because they are holobronies migrants>Niji JOP acts like niggersWELL WELL WELL
>>12723407Strange how the hololive sing channel barely has good views nowadays, be it Gura or any holo while random newly popped up channels like these can go viral. Obviously the demand is still there judging by the views, but that channel was one of the biggest in the beginning and for a while. YT is wack.
>>12720424>How long do you think it will take her to learn a full korean song? She already did, and as expected, it went viral in KRhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfzo8NqHaYE
>>12723620It's the quality of the video and the song. Bad Guy is a really popular song and the mix in that video is actualky great. Stuff on Hololive Sing is rather low quality.
>>12723407Notice how many of the recent comments are in Japanese? I wonder if it's because of Gura or Billie Eilish is actually popular in Japan.
>Pekora starts playing ff14>It pulls huge numbers>Other Holo starts playing it> 3 months later the entire Holo Group is playing ff14 and doing erp Collabs.Might be impossible but then again the ark survival arc happened
Pekora,I hate your narcissistic ass for playing the Korone horror game today of all days. Aqua could have won this day but no.You have to take everything for yourself.I like your numbers but I also like variety.Having you as number one again when it could have been a new face is a shit move on your part.
What the fuck have I been reading, where is the list of top streams?
>>12723914they already have perms dont they?
>>12722825unironically they deserve the rope
>>12723914Just go write some fics anon
>>12724097I'm waiting for the thread to archive so I can post it in the new thread
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>>12724107Pekora owns square enix
>>12723927It would be funny if Pekora streams getting over it tomorrow to beat aqua's time to further humiliate her.
Yeah, fuck it, board is slow enough* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN *Here it goes>57,577: Pekora>49,804: Aqua>42,401: Miko>35,562: Okayu>32,460: Miko>28,850: Marine>20,570: Gawr Gura>17,887: Rushia>15,647: Shibuya Hal>13,967: Calli>13,584: Mito>13,220: Aizono Manami>12,085: Fuwa>10,825: Lamy>10,449: Kizuku>10,418: Mio>10,186: Kronii(now the board will start moving again and this will be the last post of this thread)
>>12724433>Korone game >3D Live>Korone game >Korone game >Korone game >Korone game
>>12724433>57,577: Pekora (Hololive)>49,804: Aqua (Hololive)>42,401: Miko (Hololive)>35,562: Okayu (Hololive)>32,460: Miko (Hololive)>28,850: Marine (Hololive)>20,570: Gura (Hololive)>17,887: Rushia (Hololive)>15,647: Shibuya Hal (merise)>13,967: Calli (Hololive)>13,584: Mito (Nijisanji)>13,220: Aizono Manami (Nijisanji)>12,085: Fuwa (Nijisanji)>10,825: Lamy (Hololive)>10,449: Kizuku (Nijisanji)>10,418: Mio (Hololive)>10,186: Kronii (Hololive)