/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>12710353
No, I don't

I mean, Nekomiya Hinata should be the best if this was true.

>>12710353
No

Pekora falls under small and she's the most popular there is so no

>>12710574
Tell that to Anya

>>12710600
Tell anya that

>>12710451
She was.. i wish she capitalized her fps skill more

huh?

>>12711773
People accused her of cheating so she stopped

>>12716163
>people accused her of cheating
she was cheating
>so she stopped
she was forced to

>>12720176
>she was cheating
Proof?
>she was forced to
wdym exactly

>>12720714
Not the guy you're replying to but, there is no concrete proof. But what was most suspicious to fans and critics is that she does not want to stream her gameplay and play for a live audience (like the chubas who play apex today). The rrat is Botan was her 'double' who played FPS games for her and then Hinata makes a video with it later on.

>>12710353
I'd hardly call mori's melons godzilla monsters

>>12710353
No.

>>12722605
Looking at Hinata's most recent streams, her reaction speed is pretty good:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKnGQsH3mz0?t=14045

This graph looks like a ass lightly touching the ground or a boobs slowly pressing on a window. I vote for boobs.

>>12710574
Any day now she'll get 3 million subs.

>>12726043
Yeah I don't get why they bother giving Cs to any vtuber, they're so boring

>>12710353
In Vtubing, yes. (Ina and Gura being most popular [in terms of average live views] in Hololive EN for some reason)
I've found research that the poorer and uneducated someone is, the more they would be likely to prefer bigger breasts, statistically speaking. It's probably the psychological conditioning of being needy and having the tunnel-visioned desire for shiny things, which in this case would be big breasts. People into flat are less tunnel-visioned and are disillusioned about the appeal of that, because they see a person more than just being big breasts, of which they might find that more of a distraction because they aren't fooled by it. If the appeal of the woman isn't concentrated onto one spot, then her appeal has more coverage and consideration for other variables. In poorer communities, they would latch onto anything shiny, but in richer communities, they are psychologically conditioned to not be fooled by shiny things, and even often find them distracting. If you like fake slutty whores with all the bling, then big is for you, but if you like genuine, truthful and upfront people with good personality then you're more likely to veer towards flat. It just turns out to be that personality is more important in Vtubing than someone that is and/or pretending to be a whore, and that the people who are willing to give their money away are generally richer and therefore statistically prefer flat chested people. Thank you for reading my Ted Talk.

>>12727043
there is no cure for being afflicted by a disease called "being boring"

Flat and seriously big should have roughly equal peaks, with medium being the lowest part of the dip between them. Godzilla breasts should just be omitted from the chart entirely because it’s /d/ fetish shit.

>>12728866
But a boring girl is the ultimate GFE.

Pedophiles.
>[essay incoming]
Silence. I've already left this thread.

>>12728786
Mori has consistently gotten more superchats than Gura, so I question your interpretation. Even taking the Japanese into consideration, Coco used to be the top earner in Hololive until Rushia overtook her.

>>12728786
tldr, Flat is justice

>>12729241
That is irrelevant. We're talking about the amount of people willing to give their money away, not how much pay pigs they have. You should be looking into the amount of members instead.

>>12729410
Hardly irrelevant when it's a question of whether breast size prevalence is directly correlated to poorfaggotry or not. In a world where men who like big breasts disproportionately lean towards poorfaggotry Coco shouldn't have been able to hold her own against the flatties of Hololive at all. Mori shouldn't be famous for her Canadian oil barons.

>>12710574
Its closer shaped to a moat: Starts from "Cute and funny" being the best, dropping at middle, then climbing back up at "Hag/mommy"

>>12729478
You could have 10 of the worlds richest people and they could be donating hundreds of dollars every stream, but they don't really represent the audience, they're like the loud minority. In fact, on smaller corpos like PRISM, the flat ones have the more dedicated paypigs, so really that statistic is irrelevant. Rushia and Coco were equal in being the top earner of Hololive, and the only reason why it looks like Coco has a lot more is the fact that she graduated and people gave her a lot of donos for that.

>>12728786
>writing an entire essay about your autistic theory when it’s based on a premise is that is patently false

Any numbersfag will tell you Gura and Mori are the most popular HoloENs and it’s really not even close.

>>12729665
>Rushia and Coco were equal in being the top earner of Hololive, and the only reason why it looks like Coco has a lot more is the fact that she graduated and people gave her a lot of donos for that
False. Rushia overtook Coco in earnings long before Coco graduated. Coco frequently used to brag about the luxuries she bought with her earnings, such as her famous 9k bed - but I digress. This is all hypotheticals, so if you really want to prove your hypothesis that flatties attract more rich men, you'd need to find me the number of paypigs they all have. Memberships are irrelevant because they're cheap as fuck, even I as a poorfag have bought a few for 5 dollars - and with the ARS trick it's even less...

>>12727043
the only thing about her that's cute and funny is the model.

>>12729742
Popularity doesn't really dictate a community's socioeconomic status. And they are affected by many different factors. The fact is that in Vtubing, personality is more important than how big someone's breasts are. An example of someone being flat and yet being unpopular is someone like Petra. She used to be the most popular predebut but then the audience went to someone else instead.

>>12729785
>Memberships are irrelevant because they're cheap as fuck
You can roughly tell that someone has disposable income through memberships. People who are poor and/or live a poor lifestyle definitely won't really care about getting memberships at all.

>>12729974
>You can roughly tell that someone has disposable income through memberships. People who are poor and/or live a poor lifestyle definitely won't really care about getting memberships at all
Poor people spend their money on disposable, small, stupid things far more than rich people do. Tobacco, beer, iPhones. I don't know how you haven't heard of this. For a lot of people it's why they remain poor to begin with. So your hypothesis here falls flat.

>>12730094
It's a no-brainer that the more money a person has, the more likely that person is going to get a monthly membership, even with the margin of error in mind. They don't need to waste millions of dollars just to prove that they are somewhat well off.

>>12730159
>It's a no-brainer that the more money a person has, the more likely that person is going to get a monthly membership
Except not really. That's nothing more than a headcanon. As long as poor mothers keep buying McDonalds for their fat kids they can't afford, poorfag VTubers fans will be buying memberships. Even on this board it's not uncommon to see people recommending poorfags spend their money on memberships instead of superchats as it's the best bang for their buck. Soon memberships will be especially irrelevant when they can be gifted.

>>12730254
>headcanon
Speak for yourself. "Poorfag Vtuber fans buying memberships" is your headcanon. If they are poor, then they certainly can't afford to waste their money, and that is statistically speaking, not anecdotal, like what you're implying.

>>12730385
Rich people can afford to waste their money. Poor people can't afford to waste their money. They both do it regardless. That's what it means to be human. Until you're reasonably able to prove what income bracket is buying VTuber superchats the most all this hypothetical talk means nothing.
Prove that the flatties within Hololive have more paypigs, prove that more people are willing to spend hundreds on Gura than Mori and you may be onto something. Until then, you got nothing but hot air.

>>12729974
Mori crushes Ina in
>SCs
>subs
>total views
While Ina ONLY beats Mori in average live stream views, and not by a nearly large enough margin like Gura does to suspect that Ina generates more revenue.

>>12730482
>is buying VTuber superchats
Sorry - memberships.

>>12729785
NTA but your timeline is messed up. Coco was top superchatted last year, Rushia overtook her around March, Coco retook the spot purely due to her graduation in June/July. (A month of donating for the end and 400k viewer stream with people superchatting for their last time will do that for you). Rushia would've kept the top spot without that, and she will retake the top spot eventually.

>>12730554
I guess my point was unclear. Coco was overtaken by Rushia as the top earner long before graduation. But Coco was the top earner before, not factoring in her graduation. Even disregarding the graduation wholesale, that bitch made a lot of money. I'm not claiming Coco mogged Rushia due to her graduation or anything of the sort.

>>12730482
Both rich people and poor people can be stingy as well. But that doesn't change the fact that a person is more likely to go to casinos or spend their money on Vtubers and whatnot if they actually have more money to spend. Think about it similar to piracy. The more expensive something is, the less likely someone will buy that product, which is why we have sales. Most people are responsible and not wasteful like the headcanon you made up in your head.

>>12730629
Which still sounds wrong... look, I acknowledge Rushia's current and longstanging status as the queen of superchats. That's all.

>>12730634
>Headcanon headcanon headcanon
This conversation is getting tiresome. Provide me proof of which income bracket buys the most memberships or provide proof of who has the most paypigs within Hololive. Without numbers you have no evidence of any claims you're making.

>>12730723
I don't think I need to prove to you that the poorer someone is, the less likely are they to waste their money on extravagant things. That's just common sense.

>>12730831
Memberships aren't extravagant. They're 5 dollars or less. If 5 dollars is extravagant you might as well say most people that shop at the dollar store or dollar tree or whatever the equivalent is in your area are rich. Poor people can't afford to waste 5 dollars, right? Please. Provide evidence of your claims or accept that it's no more than a headcanon.

>>12730906
They are. You don't need memberships to watch Vtuber streams. Memberships are like video game battle passes, or limited time events in Gacha games. People who are poorer are less likely to spend their money on that. Though in the future that statistic will be useless because people can just gift memberships, like Twitch subs.

>>12731015
>Memberships are like video game battle passes, or limited time events in Gacha games
Of which poorfags also spend plenty on. Finana is more than enough proof of this. At this point I'm inclined to believe you must be well off yourself because you're considerably out of touch with how the poor actually spend their money. Would certainly explain why you keep clinging onto this headcanon that rich people disproportionately go for cunny as some sort of status symbol when you have absolutely no evidence backing it up.

>>12730629
>>12730665
I didn't really understand what point you were trying to make when I typed that response I was just correcting the facts. If I read the argument properly and understand which anon is which correctly, I do agree with you that flat girls do not attract more rich men. While Coco did gain her massive amount of superchats from a broader audience of smaller donations (most notably demonstrated with her set donation prices to "buy" things during asacoco) than Rushia, that was due to a difference of personality/appeal than flat vs big boobs. If rushia was boing boing and coco flat, Coco still would've been at the top from a larger amount of small donations, and Rushia at the top from a smaller amoung of large donators. That's my perspective.

>>12710353

>>12731159
Sorry, wasn't trying to be a dick. Just wanted to make sure there was no confusion with my meaning and that I wasn't attempting to prop Coco up and put Rushia down.

>>12731232
No need to apologize anon you're good

>>12730634
>The more expensive something is, the less likely someone will buy that product
False. There is cases that if you increase the price of something, there will be more people who will buy it. That is the case with luxury product for exemple. When you study stat and sociology, you see that humans are kind of retards

>>12731101
Bruh, an irresponsible person like Finana don't account for all poorfags. If what you say is true, then the statistic of dolphin-tier pay pigs in gacha games would be a lot higher than what they are.

>>12731312
Yeah but you're retarded and took it out of context. In what way does raising the price of a video game will make it more likely for people to buy them?

>>12731317
I'm speaking anecdotally here which is all I can really do seeing as we haven't touched on hard evidence yet. I'm a poorfag myself in a poorfag area and I know very well how a lot of poorfags spend their money. Unhealthy food, vidya... it's very common. I can't imagine richfags buying 5 dollar memberships in any larger of a capacity than poorfags.

>>12731373
Add the word 'premium', a bonus that isn't really a bonus, and here we go more people will buy the same game which cost twice the initial price.
But yeah, depend of the product

>>12731426
>I'm speaking anecdotally here
And that's your problem. I've been speaking based on known statistics like the amount of people who are willing to spend their money in gacha games. Vtubing is not much different in terms of the affordability, frequency and engagement.

>>12731501
That is a headcanon. Even if you add "premium" onto it, people are going to be less obliged to buy the game if it's literally the same shit but more expensive because of one word. Most people don't even pay attention to that and consider that a buzzword in attempt to sell a shitty game.

>>12731373
A $0.99 (not on sale) video game is percieved as garbage, a $4.99 video game is percieved as a deal. For a gamer with limited amount of money they will buy the $5 game and not 5 $1 dollar games (ignoring sales), because as long as you aren't starving in a 3rd world country $5 and $1 are essentially equally prohibitive in terms of cost mentally (as opposed to $5 vs $50 which makes a difference), however the quality indicated by the price will cause someone to skip out on $1 but potentially buy the $5.

>>12731685
Until you're able to provide those statistics which you think prove your claims you're still speaking anecdotally. And buying VTuber memberships are much more akin to paying for a streaming service - gaining access to exclusive streaming content, not simply gambling for PNGs. So if you're going to pull up statistics, pull-up whoever is paying for Disney Plus or Netflix.

>>12731803
With streaming services, you actually get a lot for such a low price, and that could be someone's only source of entertainment and is a need. But with vtubers, it's not like you can have a Hololive membership and literally watch all membership streams for $10. No, you have to spend money every time you member someone and you don't really get much out of it, and that is extravagant in its own way, which poorer people are less likely to spend money on, like with PNG collector games.

>>12731685
I'm pretty sure it depend of the game. Mike if it's a new game, then yeah that's bullshit and everyone will burn this game.
But if it's a game with a lot of fan ? Then that's another thing, for a huge psycho fan, having his game in the 'premium' way is a must, even if in fact there is no bonus whatsoever.

>>12731944
Gacha games are gambling. With memberships, if it's a small assortment of content, you are still paying for monthly fees for streamed content - just like other streaming platforms. No gambling involved. The idea that you don't get much out of memberships is also wholly dependent on whom you member - Amelia's membership content is quite impressive and numerous. So again, I will ask you to provide evidence of whom exactly pays for exclusive streamed content.

>>12732087
>Gacha games are gambling
Not necessarily. Plenty of people play gacha games or similar and just buy the battle passes that they have. No need to waste money with the RNG mechanics. And like with memberships, you don't need it.

>>12732153
Well, you could always just look at the PNGs online for gacha games, pirate the movies and TV shows streaming services provide, torrent the membership content. It's the exclusivity and convenience people want, like both a streaming service and membership provides. The idea that streamed content has more in common with a mobile game than a streaming service is laughable.

>>12732313
Yeah, the bottom line is that poorfags are more likely to torrent exclusive content, and thus they would be less obliged to pay for memberships. The point is that idea of a battle pass is just as extravagant as a membership. Poorfag mentality is when you torrent something instead of paying $5 for it, which majority of poorfag vtuber fans would certainly prefer, because there wouldn't be any valid reason otherwise as to why Vtuber fans would be exempt to that notion.

>>12732609
And your evidence that poorfags are more likely to torrent exclusive content hovering around the range of 5 dollars whereas richfags are more likely to buy it lies where? If you have none and just chock it up to common sense as you have before I'm bored of this conversation. Poorfags are extremely prone to spending money on 5 dollar frivolities and I'll only be accepting statistical evidence to the contrary.

>>12732816
Both richfags and poorfags, in fact, most people would be prone to spending their $5 on something. But we're talking about likelihood here. If poorfags are known to be likely to torrent content, then they are less likely to buy memberships as well, as opposed to richfags. That's just common sense everyone knows.

>>12732958
Statistics, anon. Last chance. No more headcanons. If you provide no links, images, or studies in your next reply and reply yet still just to get the last word in, you are a gay homosexual.

>>12733015
You don't need statistics to know that poorfags don't spend their money as much as richfags do. All you need is to have common sense. That is not a headcanon, that is a fact. The one making headcanons here is you, thinking that all poorfags waste their money on extravagant shit. In fact you should be the one providing the statistics to disprove common sense.

>>12733254
>You don't need statistics to know that poorfags don't spend their money as much as richfags do. All you need is to have common sense.
> In fact you should be the one providing the statistics to disprove common sense.

www.cnbc.com/amp/2017/08/25/heres-why-lottery-winners-go-broke.html

tl;dr, most poor people are poor because they’re retarded with money.

>>12729300
And since the earth is not flat there is no justice in it

what about this?

>>12735123
why is its discontinuous at points?

>>12728786
If breasts' calorific storage capability was the only factor in their perceived attractiveness across the economic spectrum, poor people would also find obese women more attractive than models. Also if you think Ina is one of the more genuine holos, I pity you.

>>12728786
The richer someone is, the less likely they are to have empathy for others. They're also less likely to feel pleasure from cozy vanilla intimacy. However, excitement can still be found in abuse, whether psychological, emotional, or physical. The richer someone is, the more likely they are to enjoy abusing someone as they enjoy feeling powerful more than other people, this is one reason why they're richer in the first place. It follows that the richer someone is, the more likely they are to prefer frail, undeveloped, childlike features as they become more excited by someone if they look easier to overpower and abuse. This is the main reason why men of higher economic status prefer smaller breasts, at least in the extreme cases. Obviously, obese women with K cups are only going to be attractive to the dumbest, poorest men because that's all they can get.

>>12735123
ah yes, gura and kronii