/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

where wah
oi retard, you forgot something
>>12571182

ohh I need to shit

>>12665969
Adjustments aren't for another hour.

>>12665981
no adjustment today.

ohhhh konnui love

>>12665992
konnui hate

Ohhh Konnui

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Adjustments doko?

>>12666190
Come back in an hour, I'm still shitting

this is gonna be the longest shit of my career

dst hate. honk change it to 8:05

>>12666240
adjust your shit schedule

I want to bury my face deep inside Azki's pits

>>12666260
are you retarded? never mind don't answer that

HONK TURN OFF DST ADJUSTMENT YOU FAGGOT NOT EVERYONE FUCKING LIVES IN A SHITHOLE WITH DST

>>12666282
Yes, I am on the Nene oshiboard. How'd you know?

>>12666287
I woke up for THIS? for fucks sake I wanted to do adjustments and crawl back to bed after like 48 hours of nothing but autism

>>12666318
kek

but seriosuly honk and devs, there is no reason to follow dst fuckery.

>>12666411
Servers are on East Coast time. Why wouldn't it follow DST?

honk, move adjustment 3:30a.m. that's when I shit

Now that the dust has settled, why did bread turn into a huge fucking faggot?

>>12665989
>the game is dead
I’m finally free

>>12666462
Because
a. DST is retarded
b. The playerbase is across the entire world so following dst for fucking america literally fucks over everyone else.
Do we really have to go back through the entire timezone arc again? For fucking dst? We shouldn't be following dst, the adjustment time shouldn't be arbitrarily changing because some fucking timezone decided to follow a retarded as fuck concept.

>>12666462
because players agreed on a certain time once upon a time. it doesn't matter if a certain shithole wants dst.

>>12666499
bread's cunny is no longer being stuffed

Honk, make double adjustments for 1 week and then remove them for another week please it would make the game better

>>12666564

fuck you honk

Honk, randomize adjustments. Set something up to pick a random hour every day for adjustments to occur.

fuck honk

Give me Yogiri coin you bastard

>>12666543
bread's menhera arc?

honk don't follow dst it's a pain having to do adjustments at 11pm here

Honk, randomize adjustments over the entire week. Have some days with multiple adjustments and some with none

Honk make a schedule for your asmr stream you whore

honk remove adjustments

Looks pretty based to me, maybe stop living in Africa

Hi-

Adjustments will not be changed until bread stops being a faggot.

>>12666710
HOOOOOONNNNNNNKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK

>>12666678
Oh so its the literal opposite. 3rd world shitholes do not follow DST while every civilized nation does

Adjustment is finally back at 16:05, I am fine with it.

>>12666628
Yes, until someone marry her

>>12666710
somebody fuck the menhera out of bread please

>>12666678
>>12666738
Read it better, retards. The majority of the world STOPPED using DST.

>>12666779
none of the world that matters though, fuck off pajeet

>>12666678
Pretty sure Europe changes their clocks differently, though that may be American >education.

>>12666779
yeah, the aforementiond 3rd world "countries"

>>12666738
>3rd world shitholes
>Japan
>Civilized nation
>Poland

>>12666794
I'm sorry, American, but America is literally the worlds worst 3rd world country

>>12666794
your chink masters stopped using dst. pls adjust immediately

>>12666812
yes

>>12666779
The key is right there.
>Blue - Currently changes clocks and employs DST (as of October 2020)
>Purple - Previously employed DST but does not anymore
>Uncolored - Has never used DST or changed clocks.
I thought I was on /vt/ not /dng/.

>>12666812
>japan
>poland
Nobody from those two nations play nasfaq

>>12666863
holy fuck. are you stupid or something?

>>12666877
I beg to differ

>>12666812
Are you saying poland is not a civilized nation?

>>12666738
>>12666812
>3rd world shitholes
>australia

>>12666877
11PM adjustment time isn't good

Why wasn't there this much fo a kerfuffle over DST last time the clocks changed?
Wrong answers only, please, or you're oshi gets it.

>>12666877
im polish and i play this game hello nice to meet u

maybe my nationality is the explanation as to why im super retarded

>>12667100
the polish people don't exist.

Part of the reason why I don't care about my position on the leaderboard is because adjustments were always at an inconvenient time, anyway.
Seeing other people be inconvenienced as well amuses me.

>>12661554
Hello Devchama. I fell asleep.
>>12663100
>inflation problem
>problem
It's not a fuckin problem. Hyperinflation was a problem. Inflation is at a sustainable rate.
>>12663221
>asking for this unironically right after we had a day where Susan didn't post fucking numbers until 4 AM
ばーーーーーーーーーーーーか

>>12667259
>>asking for this unironically right after we had a day where Susan didn't post fucking numbers until 4 AM
That shit happens regardless and it rarely ever actually corrects itself like it did. It's the exception on how susan bullshit works

>>12667259
>>asking for this unironically right after we had a day where Susan didn't post fucking numbers until 4 AM
literally just do your reps, you don't need poi

>>12667057
same, honk please stop using DST

>>12667338
OK, but
>>12667057
>11PM adjustment time isn't good
Yet it's OK to want it at fucking 1 AM for a sizeable portion of the playerbase? The game's called "nasfaq"
>The NASDAQ Stock Exchange is open Monday through Friday from 9:30am to 4:00pm Eastern Standard Time (GMT-05:00)
Make adjustment 25 minutes later just to piss off the morons that keep asking for it at 1 AM.

>>12667617
Simple, it's intended for gameplay purposes to improve the game itself. I'm not doing this discussion but the meanings between that and the current problem are two different things.

>>12667100
slavs are a good people, don't let anyone - especially not fucking mutt burgers - tell you otherwise.

>>12665658

thus begins the week of probably not buying my oshi

>no polish gf to play nasfaq.biz with
why even live at this point its not worth it

>>12667100
>>12667892
you know what to do

>>12667683
you want it at 1 AM because it works better for (You) than 9 AM. you keep repeating this, you've yet to prove how
>people have 8-12 hours to act on the information blah blah
case in point - we don't see a massive fire sale on the leadup to getting susan'd, and I've pointed this out before
>>12667338
>just let susan fuck us all the time
great idea too

>>12667923
nta but i just want to remind you that timezones exists

Why does DST even exists

>>12667947
I know they do, but the ppl asking for 1 AM adjustment are worse than the moron states pushing for year-round DST
>>12667994
because my countrymen are idiots

This is by far the stupidest change that Honk made to the game

time to sell all my miko

Ooooooh sex, sosex

poat'em

>>12667923
>don't see a massive fire sale on the leadup to getting susan'd
Because it's just smarter to hold, nigger. The major thing it impacts is what people buy. Of course it won't cause people to sell because people aren't really selling at all period anymore.

>>just let susan fuck us all the time
Susan is only occasionally, moron. We went months without it and have gotten it a few times in the past few months. It's a random event that occurs that will happen regardless and it recovering has only happened once. Every other close time it has recovered before what would have been adjustment.

>>12668047

>>12668087
>drivel
None of this shit proves that a 1 AM adjustment time will "improve the game" other than a thinly veiled attempt to mask that it's a more convenient time of day for you. Try again.
>it impacts what people buy
It does not, not in the fucking slightest. People buy red until its green. Oshicoiners buy regardless. PERIOD. What a small handful of motherfuckers do with "muh insider information" once numbers are out isn't enough to even impact the graphs on the market, and you've got a few months of Market Report to look at if you don't believe me.

>>12667994
it was done in ye olden times so northern european farmers would get their daylight more in the morning active times, otherwise they'd have to be inactive for several hours because they couldn't see shit and their animals were still asleep as well.

>>12668047

>>12668047

breddy red. nice.

sports festival...
she's live to 70k people AGAIN

>>12668287
Shionyo...

>>12668047
>Buying 20 coins
>Selling 10
>Projected net gain of 34k per cycle
God I love the sports festival.

>>12668332
>net gain per cycle
que?

>>12668180
>Try again.
It does. Plain and simple. People picked it up on the week adjustment changed and people still complain about the problem even now. There is no need to make an argument because people have already made a clear case about this topic dozens of times throughout the months.

> People buy red until its green
Not everyone is fucking ultra rich who have no need to play the game. Most people who aren't sitting at the top still have to do smart adjustment plays and changing the time helps encourage it because right now if you want to do them you just wait for the numbers to come in. There is no reason to watch or track streams with the current time which was kinda, you know, the entire purpose of this game in the first place. The game is simply more exciting and interesting for anyone who actually still plays the game with the old time and not the new time.

But there is no need for the discussion since it's already been had tons of times and the devs have already decided on their opinions for it.

>>12668287
>nachoneko at almost 15% nice
It's fucking obscene how no matter what happens Holo and Mori always stay around 15% and 20%

>>12668287
>ame above 15%

>>12668369
What in the name of all that is decent are you buying and not selling? There's no possible way your SportsFes coins are at less than +3k right now, and that's all they'll make in divvies.

>>12668431
her last week was halloween so her divvies exploded. don't fall for it.

>>12668431
her last divs were inflated by halloween collab and the myth song, I bet in reality she is around 10%

>>12668442
prob multicoin

>>12668442
dude are you blind? The market is deep fucking red dig in

>>12668369
Not enough.

>>12668511
>Multibuying

>>12668536
I'll have to wait for the eventual break time, onsen trip and inevitable fall from heights to 5x mikochi, need to preserve some money here

>>12668582
>he can't into math

>>12668582
too poor to multicoin

>>12668582
>he's buying less than 150 botan today
stay absolutely poor

I might have spent way too much on the auctions

>>12668403
>wait for numbers to come in
>no reason to watch streams
>spending more effort and words to say "I don't want to say it, it's been said" than actually saying it
>saying it anyways
Why did you even bother making this post? Nobody fucking watches streams, this is /vt/
>"needing" to have the numbers to make "smart plays", leading directly into
>Not everyone is fucking ultra rich
Contradictions, much?
>being poor enough to benefit from having numbers to make "smart" plays
>been around long enough to remember "old" adjustment time
I doubt anyone like this exists. But they should just quit, clearly they fucking suck at this game. And their opinion doesn't matter because they're poor.
You want 1 AM because it's more convenient for you. Nut up and fucking say it you pussyfooting ninny.

Before I sleep
https://pastebin.com/nhrecTqc

>>12668621
You were warned. Why did you not listen?

>>12668712
gonna get some cheap braps soon yeah

>>12668681
while it's true that adjustments matter a bit less the more rich you get, the poor people get to ride our neuron-boosts by buying in early for absolutely free. basically we already pay tax for your gain.

>>12668681
Nut up and just admit you are an american who just doesn't want to have the old adjustment despite the obvious gameplay benefits from it.

i do not care for the financial repercussions.

>>12668782
if I don't check poi now, no need to check it at old adjustment times as well.
if you have the autism to check poi and plan out your "genius plays" 10+ hours in advance, you have the capability to just scroll through your subscriptions and do a quick evaluation what might do well and what won't.
It's not like a zatsudan will pull 30k+ people etc.
you learn that shit with time.

>>12668828
abayo kenzoku

>>12668760
I think there's absolutely nothing wrong with that
>>12668782
>no you
Seriously? Found the Australian.
They aren't "obvious", I just pissed all over your entire argument. Adjustment is at 1 AM FOR YOU right now. And you're pissing and moaning this loudly about it, of course I don't want it at fucking 1 AM for me.

>>12668888
quads of truth, now "old adjustment time" niggers can fuck off

>>12668619
>Botan
>Only 900~1200 lower than her usual pricetag.
I'm buying, but it doesn't seem low enough to justify buying more than 144.

>>12668828
>owned: 11
another one bites the dust
>>12668895
me neither, it balances out

stop shitting the threads adjustment retards

>>12668938
I need her for the stats first and foremost, also she's usually 8k-10k so this is like 50% sale.
>>12668948
we're playing a game here, fuck off

ohhhhh konnui

>>12668946
>bites the dust
why? they will get funded by matower. no need to worry for sakura

>>12668890
>>12668946
he got a 50m stimmy, he'll live.

>>12669025
>$12,908,911.5
>$484,848 expected returns
GOOD RIDDANCE

>>12669088
it was never about the returns.

btw, if anyone uses the "next adjustment" counter in their analysis sheets, you'll have to change the timezone of the sheet from +8 to +7 for it to work again
here's the code for that cell
=INT((TIMEVALUE(TIME(21,5,0))-TIMEVALUE(now()))/TIMEVALUE(TIME(0,10,0)))

>>12668895
They are obvious retard. You didn't piss over shit there is just no value wasting time repeating this timeloop yet again. Especially when the devs have already decided what they want to do. Go armdev if you want to timeloop at least people sometimes make funny posts from that.

>australian
Not everyone you disagree with is australian, dumbass.

>>12669295
>complaining about timelooping
>was part of the timeloop
>retard
>t. retard
reddit spacing, repeatedly
"obvious" - can't point them out

oh I see it's time to fuck off back to the other autism game

>>12669255
where the hell is that

>>12669393
apparently the haaton(?) who brought that thing to the thread was from hong kong we found out when tampa rebuilt it with me

flash1: Buying stun seed 3k

>>12669393
I didn't put it back into the "revised" wallet analyzer because from what I can remember, it wasn't time zone agnostic and required some user input. Just tried it right now and it returned "67"

>>12669348
>reddit spacing
Nigga, at least use it right if you want to shit on me.

Reddit spacing isn't properly formatting your paragraphs.

It's this sort of shit.

Which makes reading posts actually physically painful to read.

It's cancer but so is using the term reddit spacing when it isn't really bad.

Suck my dick.

Post wallet

>>12668600
NTA, but he's right. The coins in the red today just don't have returns high enough to justify multibuying unless you're in the top 10.
I'd say that maybe Botan is viable, but that's about it, a case could also be made for Nabi if her price recovers quickly but
>multicoining Nabi

>>12669469

>>12669461
I mean on the sheet...
>>12669552
>spoiler
kek, haaton code at it's finest

>>12669555

>>12669573
you know you can customize it however you want, right?
just punch that formula in and change the timezone, or find out how the magic works for EST

>>12669666
>returns (net worth) around 10%
Mikopi...

>>12669666
I know I know, I was just wondering if there was already a cell with the time that I'd missed, I also have my sheet rigged up a bit with some shitty math and graphsthanks for the bubbles idea, they are very useful

>>12669255
>>12669461
The Time Until Adjustment on the Haatontrader was actually me. I slapped it together using sheet magic, but I couldn't tell you in full confidence how it works. No idea how it got to CN time; I'm in ET.

>>12668734
Auction was fun

>>12669552
I just realised the haaton sheet still exists. How long has this 'revised' sheet been around for?

>>12669561
>Shion, Botan and Moona with an almost 19% return
>not worth it to multicoin
nowdays that's a pretty good return, you should at the very least have those on 2x until they go back up in price

>>12669666
I don't think you ever shared your version in the thread, so outside of us seeing it in your screenshots and me seeing it when we were fuckin around with rebuilding it, it's all you.
I did err on the side of keeping it as close to the "original" as possible, and in dark mode.
>>12669751
>>12669810
I just tried
=INT((TIMEVALUE(TIME(9,5,0))-TIMEVALUE(now()))/TIMEVALUE(TIME(0,10,0)))
and it returned -6.
>>12669861
Archive sez >>9226170
>Sat 04 Sep 2021

>>12668468
>>12668477
Too late, I already bought the fud

>>12669911

>Haaton is a chink

>>12669870
If you add multicoin costs to the 'second' coin, making it shoulder all of the multicoining price (i.e. the difference between 1x and 2x), you will see that its price effectively multiplies by 1.45x.
Shion's 2nd coin has roughly 12.7% returns. Not as good as one would think. At those ROI, I would be much more comfortable with multicoining a coin that has very stable returns, or that had a single bad week.

>>12669911
Yeah, I had to do some finagling to get it to return the proper Cycle count, but I did eventually get it working on my end. The Haaton that made the sheet didn't have any issues that I was made aware of, so I assumed my pale attempt at black magic was working.

>>12669870
Oh, I forgot to add: they are absolutely worth buying. Just, not multicoining, unless you have excessive amounts of liquid and there's no deal better than 12.7% ROI.

multicoin FUD is so you'll stop driving the price up and they can buy more cheaper
don't listen to them

>>12670102
Nah, I have to give some genuine advice in the thread from time to time. Otherwise FUDs would be ineffective as no one would ever believe anything written here.

>>12670102
The strongest FUD is the truth.

>>12670057
I think I know how to make it work everywhere, all the time.
Adjustment...09:05 EST. 14:05 UTC. 12:05 AM in Brisbane...
and it didn't fuckin work.
oh well

mogu...

I hate you guys. YouTube keeps fucking recommending Necromantic now.

>>12671332
Become Fandead

>>12671332

>>12671332
doki doki waku waku

Good morning, I am buying Towa.
>>12663341
Tower pls...

>>12671332
>He wasn't already on the Stack train
I fucking love Stack, bros.
OP's back, btw.

>>12671406
I fucking hate this image

>>12670029
>>12670068
Not him, but I was trying to look into that and now I don't know how the hell multicoin works, opening a new tab with just shion at no credits, step 1 and 2 gave me
>$6,683.75
>$15,915.73
First one is easy, it's just her price x1.05 ($6,365), but the second one doesn't make sense to me
>if it's $6365 x1.2 (20% tax) then that's $7,638, but that adds up to $14,321,75
>if it's $6365 x1.25 (25% tax) then it's $7,956,25 which adds up to $14,640
>if it was $6365 x1.3 (30% tax) it would be $8,274.5, totaling $14,958.25
and then, if it instead scales of the $6,683.75 (already x1.05 of original price)
>$6,683.75 x1.2 is $8,020.5, total of $14,704.25
>$6,683.75 x1.25 is $8,354.6875, total of $15,038.4375
>$6,683.75 x1.3 is $8,688.875, adds up to $15,372.625
How in god's name does tax work

>>12672159
Retardchama... you missed the easiest one
>her price $6,635
>you are buying 2
>$6,365 x 2
>$12730
>you are paying 25% tax
>$12730 x 1.25
>$15,912.5

>>12672317
Dammit, thanks

>how does Multicoin work?
It doesn't, devs fucked up the formula and it's actually so bad it never makes sense to multicoin.
Devs are retarded, nothing new.

>>12672159
Base price: $6365
1x price: $6365 x 1.05 = $6683
2x total price: 2 x $6365 x 1.25 = $15912.5
"2x coin" price = 2x total price - 1x price = $15912.5 - $6683 = $9229

$9229/$6365 = 1.45, which shouldn't be surprising.
Paying for 1 coin, you pay 1.05 times the base price. Paying for 2 coins, you pay 2.5 times the base price.
Thus, the cost of adding the "second" coin would be 1.45 times the base coin.

>>12672543
if you want to fuck ms honk you need some dere in your tsundere

>>12672543
t. poor

>>12672543
If you think like that, you missed out on some good trades my friend.

Imagine having a reserve of resources and information that people have worked on and never using it.

>>12672706
BBB...
First of all, it's 25%, 35% etc. since the 5% tax is added to the multicoin fee. I won't enter a discussion if it should be like that, but it works like that empirically.
Secondly, this only considers profit via price difference. Not a shortcoming, but it is worth noting that multicoining can also be used for long positions geared towards dividends.

>>12672936
Both of these things are noted in the report that nobody reads.

>>12672998
read hard big red buy more big green sell more simple as

>>12671467

>>12673093

Some good questions and suggestions were brought up!
>>12664484
>>12661696
>>12661633
I was thinking more in the lines of dividing rolling between different collections or themes than doing limited events, since we don't want to deprive new players of collecting their oshi's paraphernalia. We might do something for special events in the future though.

>>12663100
Crafting is definitely something we want to implement in the future and iirc honk has advanced some of the backend code already. Regarding inflation, we are monitoring market prices, but we feel a correction is not needed at this point in time. The big problem we want to avoid is having the divs-adjustment relation being too skewed towards either side and right now we are still in a fine spot I think.
On the gatcha rolls, we might have a larger bundle roll or an "animations off" option, but 100 is excessive. Fight me on this one but gatcha becomes less rewarding if you instantly get everything you want.

>>12663221
>>12663286
We have asked before the thread's opinion on returning the adjustment time back to 1 AM server time, and the answer was a huge fit so we are holding the change until we have either a server-side trader or we gather enough support from the player base to change it. Devs are still divided in this regard but I'm of the opinion that plays become more interesting when no one knows the stats in advance. What do you think about it? This change would probably come bundled with a volatility increase as well. About the saving time shift, it happened during a time devs were somewhat busy so sorry for not addressing it earlier. It's not that hard to change, do you want it to return to one hour earlier?

Sometimes I'm late to respond due to my weird timezone but I always read the thread so be free to AZKi away whatever is on your mind. Thanks for playing the game.

-Dev the third

>>12672998
Second thing - fair enough.
First thing - it should be included on the chart, otherwise the chart is just plain wrong.

>>12673181
>or we gather enough support from the player base to change it.
You don't have my support, don't change it
but thanks for your hard work

>>12673181
Instantly getting everything would be a 1000x. Smiles did like, 7 thousand 10x rolls so far.

>>12673181
Understandable but what about not being able to bid the same item but with different sellers? Animations off sounds good, but can't we atleast go for 50 rolls?

>>12673122

>>12673373

No /vt/ in the match today but /jp/ is playing very first match on divegrass for anyone interested.

>>12673298
Yeah, not being able to bid is definitely a bug, we're looking into it. Regarding rolls, 50x is reasonable. I'll raise the issue at the next dev meeting.

-Dev the third

>>12673181
>I'm of the opinion that plays become more interesting when no one knows the stats in advance.
Consider the Following: 99% of the playerbase doesn't do their reps anyway, even when we had an anon doing a chart that explicitly told you "buy this; sell that". I would argue that the change to adjustment time doesn't impact the target audience in any meaningful positive way. You're not gonna see rep-doers suddenly surge in the leaderboard over shitters that have never so much as opened Poi in their life.

>>12673181
I am once again asking for lower multicoin tax and bigger amount of coins at the same time

>>12673584
lower multicoin tax only for selling

>>12673181
>I'm of the opinion that plays become more interesting when no one knows the stats in advance
Which is why I really want our old adjustment time to come back. I missed actually checking streams or schedules for big events and it actually paying off. Now we don't even have the need to do that.

Are ogey_rrat and Yogiri Ltd. still active?

>>12673699
No, they haven't been playing for ages. Tower stop fucking suiciding. Ogey and Yogiri have been at those coin amounts for ages now.

>>12673726
I mean, there's no Yogiri to buy

>adjustment shit again
How about we just fucking move the adjustment to the 19th hour? Just do it like 5 minutes after Poi updates. Who fucking cares about late stats, we gotta prevent people from having information. Why fucking settle for 1AM when everyone has stats by then? Move it to the same time as Poi's update so everyone is blind.

>>12673762
Chowa...

If you change the fucking adjustment time I'm gonna blow up the Nasfaq Office I swear to you

>>12673827
It's already being moved an entire fucking hour for third world niggers who don't live in a nation with DST

>>12669735
it's like that when you have money from divvies over, the stat is inherently dumb and broken

>Family posts auction
mfw trying to resist bidding

>>12674331
I'm just selling off hats I don't really want, I'm trying to make it be only the girls I really like. Don't do it.

>>12673827
Is that- is that my soundpost?
Exquisite choice, sir.
Also, fuck moving the adjustment back. I like sleeping through the day.

which is the most disgusting oshiboard and why is it baelz'?

>>12674687
your oshi's

Leave the aqua hat alone
>>12674687
Kronii's is worse, it even has rean in it

>>12674721
at least kronii's has two people with the right marks and one of them has the hat too

>>12673499
Here I'm not talking about the mechanics as these can be tweaked until we get the desired effect. From a design perspective, we would like for anons doing their reps to find better opportunities than those who don't. If we agree on this then it makes sense to 1) Reduce statistic certainty and 2) increase adjustments until it matters. Obviously, we need to test it and develop some numerical models to simulate market growth and run-off thresholds so our decisions don't have unintended effects, but I believe at this stage what's important is for us to agree on what should be the ideal functioning of the market.

>>12673769
Unfortunately Susan doesn't care about adjustments so the API updates somewhat randomly in the span of 5 hours. 1 AM is the earliest time when all holo statistics have been reliably updated.

-Dev the third

>>12673769
this is very good bait

bread is a faggot

>>12674839
Just remember that NASFAQ was originally to help people watch streams and enjoy Hololive more, which isn't happening anymore at it's current state. People can just open up poi and buy coins for 8 hours, or used to be 8 hours, it's 9 hours from now on.

>>12674839
>we would like for anons doing their reps to find better opportunities than those who don't.
Because of overbought and coin volume, reps doesn't matter AT ALL. I stopped caring about preparing for adjustment a long time ago. As soon as you hit as low as 70 coins you're already pretty much ready for anything, at 144 you have no reason to care, you can react to anything without planning for it. And a ton of players are already way above 144.
You talk about reps mattering as if we were still in april.

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>>12675120
want to have sex?

>>12674839
According to the Info page, the design philosophy of NASFAQ indicates that the "ideal market function" is that knowing what is going on with a wide range of streams should give you benefit more than those that do not know what is going on. In this, we agree. I do not, however, agree with the notion that pulling the adjustment time closer to API update time serves that idea. The idea is predicated on the premise that there is firstly: a significant edge to doing your reps over not doing your reps, when the data does not indicate that any such edge exists, and secondly: that enough players will do their reps for the change to have an impact on the market, which is a dubious argument due to the first counterpoint.

In summary: You COULD pull the adjustment time back to 1 AM, but it doesn't serve the game's design philosophy or the desired market result to any meaningful degree. You'd just be changing who can be there for adjustment plays and who can't. If that's what you're shooting for, then by all means, but if you're looking to change adjustment time in order to make competition fiercer, I daresay you're going to be sorely disappointed.

>>12675134
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>>12673827
Based Arson Enjoyer

I agree with the rest. Reset would be good. But after all the game's problems have been solved.

>>12675034
I'd still fuck him

Reset doesn't even fix anything

Ah fuck I havent been buying mori

>>12669911
there's a very simple reason I don't share the sheet
It's useless for people actually playing the game because it ignores K*ara entirely.

>>12675631
NTA, but I don't buy Kiara either. Could you please be so kind as to post the sheet?

>>12673887
In Yurope it's even dumber because we do have DST but every year at the 31st of October, it never changes.
Basically thanks to the burgers we had one week of 14:05 adjustments and are now back to 15:05

>>12675303
>him

>>12675689
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1VJQkAZQdJNxsEpoCQaZubyovwV4XB0x1yekcRZJar9I/edit?usp=sharing
view only, make a copy if you want to use that jank

>>12675927
Thank you very much.

>>12672706
if you talk to players, imagine you talk to your manager. they only understand two colors (red/green) and you need pictures to bring the point across, the picture doesn't even need to fit the occasion.

>>12676026
just keep in mind every single tab in that is JIP (jank in progress), not meant for sharing (=unusable / unfinished / wrong math) and used at your own risk.

is Luna broken in the autotrader for anyone else?

>>12676108
I'll keep that in mind, thanks.
So far it's looking very soulful.

>>12676119
She's shaded as if she's not trading, but she trades normally.
Dunno what the baby's problem is, but it seems like every update bugs her.

Cypher hit 200k coins today

>>12675048
Now that you say it, I actually have been curious if the others are still even watching majority of the streams or streams at all.

As for me, Nasfaq was something that pulled me back in to holos last April but I have been losing interest again ever since August, and now, I just do not watch Hololive at all but cannot quit playing the game because of how far I have gotten.
I used to be a 35P and just check Mikochi's stream every now and then while just checking poi for what to and not to buy, but even I stopped doing both of those. I also knew about the holosports but couldn't even be bother checking it, I was right about ignoring it though, it seems it was a borefest compared to last year's.

Be honest, just how many of the players here actually still even watch streams?

Takeshi you fucking jew

>>12676034
I don't buy that it's worth it to 5x something that's down 50% with the plan to hold.

>>12676478
This is the crunch time of the year for me right now, so I can't watch much of anything, but I try to catch what I can to run in the background while I work.

>>12673181
>>12673258
its about 111200 10x rolls now for me, and I wish we had 100x man please devchama

>>12676629
That's understandable. I tried doing that too but I really just can't get the mood to even play them as just background noise, feels they aren't as fun as they used to be.

konnui love

>>12677126
Why can't you just make it so I can always love your posts, stop editing my posts about Towa/Tower.

>WU (3 hours ago)
>GF making fried chicken
>Make chicken tendies for lunch
How's your afternoon, /nasfaq/? Been selling some IRyS and Miko to fuel my GF stack.

>>12677544
nobody actually watches Ayamy lol

>he isn't watching ayamy right now
even for a thread of dickposters that's very gay

>watching irrelevant boring trash
I already have Kiara for that

I am once again kindly requesting a Takodachi gf (this could be us)

>>12679459
but anon, there aren't any takos in the picture

>>12679459
Are you gay?

>>12679474
Absolutely nobody ships Fubuki x Ina
Although... I think there might be a tiny bit of potential there?

>>12679620
Then if you really want a tako gf time to pull out your wallet and commission some artist for some nice fubukixina art

A network, those arcs represent the buy to sell ratio of the given coin/player. Rean bought 1280 and sold 412 coins. 1409 $Marine were bought, whilst 37 were sold.

smiles=faggot

Like a bolt from the blue, it's time for a quick Afternoon Review.

It's currently 37 cycles into the day at the time of writing.

Top 5 Downward Trends (per Cycle average):
>Miko :: -$54.67
>Aqua :: -$50.72
>Baelz :: -$47.10
>IRyS :: -$43.16
>Fubuki :: -$36.37

Top 5 Upward Trends (per Cycle average):
>Botan :: +$38.77
>Amelia :: +$36.90
>Suisei :: +$36.16
>Shion :: +$35.79
>Flare :: +$33.85

5 Closest to Pre-Adjustment (based on current PCA) (ignoring Civia):
>Mio :: 4
>Ayamy :: 5
>Towa & AZKi :: 6
>Kanata :: 28
>Calliope :: 35

Biggest Crab Award for the day goes to Ayamy, who adjusted by -$3.85.
Average change per cycle is +$6.67.
Average adjustment today was -$773.97.


The full details can be seen in the F.U.C.K. Report archive, under Afternoon Review.
Quick poll regarding this report: Is it at all useful or interesting? Would you rather see different information at this time, or is it missing something? I don't mind putting this out, but I don't want to waste the thread's time cluttering it up with more numbers if they aren't doing anything.

>>12680154
I dont get it, why these specific people?

>>12680363
it's people who have been selling their oshi/most held coin

>>12680314
>spoiler
You're a crucial part of the thread sir. Gambare.

is that rat lover multiselling her?

wah!

>>12680497
LE WAH ISNT INA SO KAWAI ? XXDD

>>12680519

>>12680519
a.. are you lost?

>>12680546

>>12680568

>>12680497
congratz1

My daily routine
>wake up
>turn on my computer
>open web browser
>"4chan.org/vt/"
>click on catalog
>ctrl+F
>"nasfaqg"
>click on thread
>post a reply
>"Ohhh Konnui love"
>close browser, turn off my computer and go back to sleep

>>12680154
smiles wtf

>>12673181
>>12675048
It's literally this one Anon that wants 1 AM adjustments back and asks for it. Nobody does their reps, and nobody watches streams.
Why do you want nasfaq to be some kind of saviourfag holy grail?

>>12675083
This guy gets it.

>>12675149
As does this guy. I really wish 1 AM Anon would nut the fuck up and just admit that 9:05 AM ET personally inconveniences them and stop trying to make this more than it is.

>>12674839
It will increase the amount of potential Susan-ings by some non-zero number, as evidenced by Susan not getting her shit together until 4 AM just a day or two ago.

I still think you could take their "concern" regarding reps and make an interesting mechanic out of it, were you so inclined. These are NYSE's hours for reference:

>4:00am - 9:30am — Pre-Trading Session
>9:30am - 4:00pm — Core Trading Session
>4:00pm - 8:00pm — Extended Hours
Those obviously don't cover all the hours in the day, and nasfaq shouldn't "close"

Multi-coin would need some tinkering to not be suicide should something like this be adapted to work with nasfaq, but if you were to try and scale the hours:

>1:00am - 9:05am — Pre-Trading Session
Adjustment happens at 1, but volatility remains frozen until 9:05am. Fees are doubled across the board - base 5% is now 10%.

>9:05am - 7:00pm — Core Trading Session
Volatility "unlocks", there is no 5% fee. There should be some kind of "check" that can account for semi-Susans and stats being late. This also could allow for both early and late sub-ticks to be considered.

>7:00pm - 1:00am — Extended Hours
5% fee

WRT to sub-ticks, if a sub-tick goes through at 1 AM, it would "last" until 1 AM the following day. If it goes through at 9 AM, it lasts until 9 AM the following day. That adds an additional element of risk to the "Pre-Trading Session". As does the 2nd check at 9 AM for Susan related shit.

>>12680599

>>12676478
>>12677574
I will watch a stream I wouldn't otherwise watch if (You) guys are fangirling about it in the thread. Ayamyposter has gotten me to watch more than one of her streams. Otherwise? Nah, am busy. I kept a few memberships for the chubas whose content I either enjoyed a lot or still enjoy, if anything, to get the next badge...
>>12673489
Thank you, 50 seems reasonable indeed.
>>12674839
Volatility seems like it hasn't scaled "properly" with coin volume, but without seeing the numbers behind it, I'm just blowing smoke out of my tuchus. Some kind of "volume/time" based scale on volatility would be bretty good. If everyone starts a run on a coin, it should tank harder. If, relatively speaking, "nobody" is buying a dip, it should move more slowly. For it to not be "broken" it would have to both track current volume of that particular coin vs. current total market volume i.e. the current transactions on that coin represent a disproportionate amount of total transactions AND somehow scale with some arbitrarily defined "historical" volume/time measure for that particular coin. It's making MY head spin, but I imagine the Dev that handles those equations will pop a chub thinking about it.

>>12680314
>Towa & AZKi :: 6
But you fail to see she's moving away from her pre-adjustment, your metric is actually quite fraudulent!

Think they're neat, but realistically they don't have much use, as if you're not on the trends already hours after adjustment, you're legitimately retarded. Think "closest to preadjustment" is kinda stupid, like for Towa here as I mentioned, everything else is nice to see though like trends/cycle averages and the average change per coin. Think removing pre-adjustment will remove that clutter issue you're worried about. I'd personally advocate for just recording any true moons like IRyS at 17k for later reference because the all time tracker only records the data at end of day, which IRyS will be only a little above her previous price at adjustment, which doesn't really show you what you were actually getting.

>>12680599
>>12680546
do not disgrace the priestess like this tako, continue in this fashion and you will be deflapped

>>12680665
>Why do you want nasfaq to be some kind of saviourfag holy grail?
I'm just stating what the game originally was for. It's also on the info page, so I'm not the one wanting nasfaq to be some holy grail.

>>12680739
NTA but if you are gonna start posting cancer like >>12680519 you should be ready to get replied with cancer as well

>>12680729
Also, jesus, I made that post and that fucking image makes her chest look massive what the fuck actually variable size Towa

>>12680822
Towa has fat tits, Bibi chooses how big they are.

>>12681076
Bibi does good work

Another network

>>12681202
>another hourglass that is large enough to notice
good job, keep on buying

>>12681202
Can you do another auction transactions?

>>12680782
And the info page also says this:
>Remember, sometimes it's not the biggest Holos that will make you the most!
How often is that true?

The game was originally for EN2 debut, wasn't it? Because of all the "buying/selling x" posting during EN1 debuts. Shut her down boys.

>>12665914
Jesus I'm not an armpitfag but HOT DAMN

>>12680729
I actually have a way to determine if a coin has moved beyond their pre-adjustment value and kept going, but I haven't implemented it because I've been lazy.

Part of this is because I personally feel that Numbers Review isn't as useful as it once was. The original point of it was to track inflation, but since inflation has been properly curbed (and I've optimized the Numbers Review process) I've been looking at new ways to help track the market's movements that might be helpful. I understand that Numbers Review may not be useful for its intended purpose anymore, but it is still a cornerstone record for the market, so it's in no danger of going anywhere.
One avenue that is pretty unexplored is average adjustments and transactional volatility. I feel like people don't exactly understand how much a coin does and doesn't move at its most volatile. Numbers Review is purposefully taken at a fairly stable point of the day, so it can't reliably show that.

>>12681317
fuckin lol
that meme was dead long before EN2 debut

>>12681317
>How often is that true?
It's common back then but it's really rare now, sadly.

EN2 debuts didn't have much posts sadly, EN2 just took way too long to debut.

>>12675083
NTA, reps need to start mattering again. Reps counting made the game more fun. At this point, it's just a game of who has the most efficient spreadsheet.
>>12680686
>Some kind of "volume/time" based scale on volatility would be bretty good. If everyone starts a run on a coin, it should tank harder. If, relatively speaking, "nobody" is buying a dip, it should move more slowly.
This doesn't remove the problem of not being able to move your funds around quickly enough. In the end, we will still contently spend whatever amount of time it takes to bring that green or red number close to zero. We will ALWAYS have enough coins to do it and then some, at least in the top 50, and that's boring.
Selling 144 of my 3000 stack isn't going to do shit for me by the same time tomorrow (multisell is a meme by the way). At least not much. We cannot prepare 3000 coins, for instance, when we know about a big stream coming in three days (that was announced three days in advance) and sell them all on the day after the stream. Being in the know a few days beforehand, a few weeks even, means nothing. Because you don't have a reward for getting that information. You'll just sell a small bit of your stack and be done for the day. Yes, you will make a profit, but so has everybody else with a half-decent net worth.
The early game was made fun by gambling 50% of your net worth on one coin for a single day's adjustment, then dumping it all on that same day. You could have had weeks to prepare, you could have bought all the opportune dips. If you did everything right, that day was your payday. You won for that day, better than everybody else. Now what do you have? Set +144 or set -144 on your cumbersome stacks like everybody else (yeah obviously you'll set it to less than that sometimes, sometimes more if you're willing to multibuy, but you get the point).
How do we go back to funjustments except for allowing us to buy/sell a much greater amount of coins per day (with much lower multicoin taxes of course)?
That's enough of my paragraphs. If they're drivel then they're drivel. Thank you if you read them.

I know Opera GX is such a fucking joke it's beyond being a "meme tier" browser, but, uh, it's really light on resources for nasfaq.
After you spend a solid fifteen minutes fucking with its settings to disable all the unnecessary shit it's doing out of the box.
Shame that it's such a bloated POS that it's using 500 MB RAM and 10% CPU with no tabs open whatsoever. Could've had something there.

>>12681390

>>12681442
>Selling 144 of my 3000 stack isn't going to do shit for me by the same time tomorrow (multisell is a meme by the way). At least not much. We cannot prepare 3000 coins, for instance, when we know about a big stream coming in three days (that was announced three days in advance) and sell them all on the day after the stream. Being in the know a few days beforehand, a few weeks even, means nothing. Because you don't have a reward for getting that information. You'll just sell a small bit of your stack and be done for the day. Yes, you will make a profit, but so has everybody else with a half-decent net worth.
Stop it Anon, you've moved beyond murdering "bring back 1 AM" Anon's argument, beyond raping their extended family members, and are now squarely in "genocide" territory. Can't have you making sense like that now!

>>12681436
Opera GX is not a joke, it's a super useful and functional browser with a ton of built in functionality.
You have everything you could need at your fingertips with Discord, Spotify, Youtube etc integration. Really, it's probably the best browser on the market and it's completely free.

>>12681442
I personally have made atrociously fat stacks off of stockpiling Risu for months in preparation for this month. I was even called out more than once for doing so, but I'm selling shares I got for no more than $3k for $15~25k.
Was that retarded? Absolutely. Will I be doing it again? Hell yes.

>>12681567
Risu's an exception and you know it.

>>12681442
Why did Enter post instead of newlining?
The volatility scaling was meant to go hand in hand with the idea of "trading hours". So it would include the changes to both the fee structure as well as volatility depending on the time of day and introduce some more elements of risk at every step. It would require changes to the way multi-coining works to be viable anyways, and multi-coining is currently only a hair away from "completely useless." There's some room for something interesting there, but I'm too stupid to flesh it out beyond random rambling.
Because if "oh no having muh numbers for 12 hours makes it less fun" has any legitimacy, I'd rather at least try and flesh that idea out with some kind of concrete game mechanic that makes things interesting for everyone and adds some depth to the game vs. "9 AM inconveniences me, change it back"
>early game
Yes, it was fun to hedge it all on a bet or a hunch. I say we exercise some patience, puts/options should hopefully bring some of that fun back, and I think Devs should wait until its ready.

>>12681595
I suppose, but it's not completely unreasonable to save well in advance for events you know are going to happen.
>Birthday
>Anniversary
>Generation Celebrations
>Sports Festival
>New Outfits
>Unprivated streams for older chuubas
These things happen all the time. It becomes less about "can I liquidate my stacks" and more about "can I invest early enough that just base inflation makes my stacks so powerful when these events hit that it is literally impossible for me to suffer a loss"

>>12681398
Appreciate the work you're doing and tracking data, glad to see you're not curbing it anytime soon.
I do agree that average adjustments and volatility aren't really explored, but that's also because people don't really care all too much, seeing Botan is moving at $38.77 per cycle may allow me to basically buy until a certain price point with manual calculations, but again, no one really puts that much effort anymore, especially with spreadsheets and just plugging round number into autotrader and not touching it.
Normal inflation has moved to coin inflation which is usually the better of the two types of inflation imo, so tracking it is probably more important nowadays. Like for cypher now having 200k coins I'm not all too sure the best way to track coin inflation is, think the metrics you have now are good, I think something in numbers report tracking the progress of average transactional price changes would be a solid addition. i.e. Botan going from $38.77 a cycle from a big negative to $27 a cycle from a big negative, due to the volume increasing in the future. Probably could reverse engineer the cycle/transaction formula with enough data

Why does DST even exists, do you people age slower or faster

>>12681812
>Probably could reverse engineer the cycle/transaction formula with enough data
I effectively solved that a month or two ago; I've been quiet because the devs implied that having the formula out there would make the game too stagnant, a notion I agree with. It's also possible that I'm just outright wrong due to overlooking critical information, like I was with the dividend formula.

>>12681760
retard

>>12681563
>You have everything you could need at your fingertips with Discord, Spotify, Youtube etc integration.
I don't need any of that and I read that as "there are constantly half a dozen unnecessary Electron apps running in the background that bog it down"
You can already do that in Chrome or Edge or even Firefox. It's called a "pinned tab".
>completely free
Because (You) are the product, picrel
elGoog having all my data is one thing, but giving it to a bunch of Chinese tech companies and VC funds isn't exactly better.
Guessing you're the one that was recommending it before, I finally got around to trying it. Again, after you unfuck it a bit after installing it, the UI is snappy and they're clearly doing something with resource management to get individual tabs running "lighter" than they would in Chrome, but all the rest of the baggage ruins that.

>>12681967
Tupac, that's literally the shill script for OperaGX. You're getting jebaited.

>>12680686
Based fubbuf poster

itt: retards

>>12681967
literally just limit the amount of CPU/RAM it uses, the browser lets you do that

Tupac's takes are usually retarded or annoying but I can't hate the guy because he actually caught up on the rankings and is actually cool. Unlike that one fag.

>>12682084
who?

>>12681905
Not like the transactional formula is as useful as the dividend one is, it'd be different if it was the adjustment formula, which I think you probably could have at this point. Only formulas that are truly bad to be known are dividend and adjustment ones, not sure how the transactional one would lead to something bad. Unless I misinterpreted your post and you meant that you've "solved" the adjustment formula, and not just simple cycle by cycle formula.

>>12682002
I am picrel then I think they're serious man. I know of at least one player that actually, seriously uses it.
>>12682026
I understand, but I don't think you understand. Limiting what it does with resources for what I want it to show me means nothing if it's gobbling a ton up just to exist. When I open it, and do absolutely nothing with it, it is already using 10% CPU and ~600 MB RAM. No open tabs. That's insane.
For reference, Chrome being woken from the crypt and presumably checking for updates and trying to sync a million things was using 10% CPU and 200 MB RAM, and that's with the bloated "New Tab" page showing me weather, suggestions, etc. still enabled. GX was just showing me a black, blank tab after I disabled all the "suggested" shit.

>>12682012
okay retard

>>12681955
>>12682012
Fascinating contribution to the discussion. Great job.
>>12682222
Holy fucking based, checked.

>>12682123
who indeed

>>12682084
I haven't been posting actively for a week or two now. I piped up in this thread because of the OP.

>>12682213
It doesn't use that much you're retarded, plain and simple.
I have twenty NASFAQ tabs open on Opera GX right now and it's only using 900mb.

>>12682359

>>12682253
>retarded ramblings
>discussion
meds, now

>>12681760
If you meant to reply to me about the adjustment time, I couldn't care less. Yes, it's nice to sleep later. No, I don't care if it's early in the morning. It will not stop be from playing, I try my best to at least SOMEWHAT centre my sleep around this game. I can easily change the time that I sleep. I go back to being there at 6am? No problem. Having the numbers for a long time doesn't really matter. As I was saying, if you know something's coming in a few days you can buy accordingly. Anyone that looks at the numbers will still be picking up the scraps. I'm talking about being able to sell what you built up over a few days in a single day, more time than those who looked at poi had. It's a reward of its own, disregarding those who only rely on poi as the losers of the day.
>puts/options
I'm not that familiar with those terms unfortunately, I've been largely talking out of my fat arse. My fat arse that holds my soul, at least. My soul says that I liked the ability to efficiently make gains. Basically, I want to make the money and keep it. I want to DUMP Mel, or whoever else I choose HARD. Because, in a perfect NASFAQ, I knew she was going to have that concert, so I spent half of everything I had building up to sell on that one big day of hers. Do you get what I'm saying? I want to make the choice to buy the coins, I want to be ABLE to sell those coins on the day she moons and thus keep my profits.
The game feels boring because you have very little sense of accomplishment now. There's no plan (except for NNN really) to make money anymore apart from fucking dividends and the gacha-auction pipeline. There is less thought, less risk, less volatility in terms of success and failure. (You) can't do much to advance above the rest OR fall behind as a member of the top 50. Commendable advances are made over months now instead of weeks.
>>12681761
Yeah, you can save well for these but so can everybody else. Most people have a decent stack of pretty much every coin. You won't be able to do shit since it's only a one-day event. NNN, however, is an entire month's worth of selling. These are not the same.

>>12681278
including all auctions? no.

>>12682611
why are there two apostrophes in my name

>>12682611
>Lunchtime Investment Firm is alive
What the fuck?

>>12682611
holy fuck kenzokus

>>12682457
Another priceless contribution.

>>12682611
Nice, 10q anon

>>12682138
I haven't numerically solved adjustments, but I've noticed certain patterns in the playerbase that make it very easy for me to identify a coin that's overbought/oversold. That's probably a side effect of staring at too many numbers for too long, though. My autistic brain has probably already solved adjustments and I just don't know it yet.

imo, there is no need to fix adjustment, gameplay-wise, adjustments/divs are a good source of reliable income, it's sole purpose is to build liquid consistently so that players will keep on playing ie the resource mines.
>but where's the fun?
options, wherein folks can either go big or go homeless in a single transaction

if you want people to care about adjustments again just up the volatility, until that happens no other change you make will have any difference

>>12683472
But that just makes the 'large, cumbersome wallet' problem worse. Higher volatility just means you get to sell less coins. You will feel EVEN LESS accomplishment than you already do.

>>12683522
nope, that just means you sell before adjusment strat becomes viable again.

>>12681436
just use edge and win

Page 8. Is there a new bread being baked?

>>12683562
I don't see how that will even make a dent in my coin stack of 2000 or whatever. Yeah, I can sell 40 more coins. Great. My net worth will still fall with that coin the next day. I still cannot trade efficiently enough for the game to be fun. This solves nothing for anybody who is not poor.

>>12683567
I don't know who was the one that introduced EDGE for NASFAQ back then but I still use it till this day

>>12683669
>Higher volatility
you lack imagination. 500%+ volatility will do the trick

Okay but how do we fix the shitcoins having shit gains

>>12683744
>500%+ volatility
Great, I can now buy and sell 10-20 of each coin a day. There is no risk, no movement still. Everybody will do the same thing.

>>12683809
maybe they should do better content

>>12683809
shame the girls to stream more

>>12683827
Tell that to Mori yet is always on the top

>>12683567
>>12683674
For me it was during the haatonsheet arc, server was getting bogged and trades were being delayed unless you used the cancer sheet, then a saviourfag appeared with edge, I got 144 for 3 days in a row and never looked back

>>12683868
but have you seen her tits? god damn i don't blame them

>>12683820
don't look for risk. it's intended to be risk-free, players are saying that they want risk, but when the devs tries to change anything, players bitch

>>12683925
That explain Ina's price

>>12683937
The players saying that there should be risk in the market and the player bitching about risk are different players in most cases.

>>12683959
What did you mean by that?

>>12683959
>>12684035
You've angered the flatkeks have fun with this one

>>12683937
I know the early game wasn't risk-free, and I know that was fun. I will embrace any change to bring that back happily. Except a reset. Multicoin? Cool. Oh, you're going to tax it and make it ineffective? Not so much.

>>12682659
im retarded, thats the reason

>>12683995
i dont think so, they want risk but at the same time, the risk they want should make sense ie easy to figure out so they reject it. no one really gives a good idea to introduce risk in the game except maybe a new feature pls honk make options like a high stake gamble

>>12684078
Reason for what? Please explain.

>>12683567
>>12683674
>>12683899
you know what's ironic? I run nasfaq in FF now myself and only use Edge to look at the pretty graphs
glad it's been working well for you though, kek
>>12683671
it doesn't look like it

honk I need to get rid of this disgusting Kiryu Kai badge

>>12684240
>it doesn't look like it
I'll go ahead and stick something in the oven, then. Might just be heating up leftovers, though, since I haven't finished the big SportsFes shitpost OP.

>Mori
>super talented
>great and entertaining streams
>beautiful model with incredible rigging and tracking
>one of the best coins in the game that is always good to buy
>Ina
>she can draw you know!!
>some boring ass joke every 5 hours of dead silence in the ugliest fucking game you've ever seen
>not the prettiest but she's cute sometimes, shit rigging, fades to the void from time to time
>biggest shitcoin to ever exist, only takos buy it, but the coin is so fucking shit that they often suicide after getting high amounts of it
Do I need to say more?

>>12684320
Mori x Ina tho

>>12684320
this is all true

>>12684320
Ina's so flat too, it's disgusting

>>12684320
Why are you like this

>>12684377
but he's right

>>12684375
Yeah, you might as well just get a guy as your oshi