/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>caring this much about a stupid block event for fun
meds

>>12611280
i think its more about dramaf*gs wanting to fill their daily drama quota

>>12611280
it makes the board a tad bit more interesting to shitpost on.

>>12611204
Sana sandbagged the last relay but ultimately it was Migo's fault for whining for a pity point and Mio's for cucking and agreeing to it.

White won,

>>12611280
>for fun block event
>no you broke a miniscule rule lets reset the event 4 times

>>12611204
He is asking too many questions, send in the 35p

>>12611204
Don't forget to take your meds schizo-chama

>>12611280
I notice the guy who hates the pepepekoposter didn't respond to this post, I guess he's an underage American who only posts during daylight hours EST.

I don't think Pekora was involved in rigging. My guess is that Miko and Mio had decided beforehand that they wanted a tie, and would have made whichever changes were necessary to rig the final games such that one occurs. If White were behind by 30 points, they would have said that the last race counts triple.

>>12611204
the scores were extremely close by the end and the only way that would have happened is by chance unless you think Bae pulling off that incredible steal after the hoppers were fixed, Haachama deciding to complete her daruma run on a whim, and all the other crazy shit that happened was all planned and everything was staged from the start.

...But if you thought that then you'd sound kind of schizophrenic. You're not a schizo, are you, OP?

>>12611204
haachama and white team got plenty of pity points in the red-white light event.

White cheated, Red cheated, some points were awarded that were questionable and matches redone that shouldn't have been done, who actually cares about who "won". It was effectively a tie & they did it as a tie. The only losers are the ones who got upset over the results of a children's block game instead of enjoying the show.

>>12611776
This. I was watching irys and all of them figured out the trick to running early on red light green light by watching gura.
Then they get told they cant, even though gura still did as did peko and botan

>>12611737
Alright, I can believe that. But what are the chances that the last 2 who finishes the race was kiara and moona, the two who has the most deep lore in hololive rivalry?
It’s rigging and luck combined

>>12611204
>>12611737
Ya'll are nuts. There was no rigging at all.
A bunch of problems were had during the competition, from Gura having her points invalidated even though her team was losing, to the PVP going without a fix for two rounds.
It simply happened that the scores were very close at the end, and Mio and Miko saw an opportunity to capitalize on it and make it into "Friendship Wins" kind of thing.
Just relax, anon.

>>12611204
>Who is to blame

>>12611948
Are you retarded? Did you pass whatever public education you had? Are you legitimately asking that question?

>>12611280
If it's really for fun they wouldn't mind if someone won and didn't need to rig it like it's a soccer match

>It's just for fun so nobody should care if you win or lose, we are just having fun here
>By the way new rule that says for no reason this race is now worth enough points to force a draw
>And also the person who made this change is a competitor on the winning team
waste of my time

>>12611204
>The question would be, hypothetically if the roles were reversed, would the organisers allow white to earn more points
Yes. Next question

>>12612367
>>And also the person who made this change is a competitor on the winning team
I didn't watch the event but how is that possible??

>>12611948
>kiara and moona, the two who has the most deep lore in hololive rivalry
Anon, are you right in the head?

>>12612544
Miko & Mio host, they both leaders of red and white respectively, and they both agreed to the rule change. So there was nothing actually cheating about it. Miko would've done the same for Mio if white was down.

>>12611204
Now you understand why fans hate APEX tournaments so much and why Mario Kart tournament wasn't that well-received
The JP fanbase is overprotective of their oshi and doesn't want them to lose. This kind of rigging is necessary to appease the fanbase

>>12611280
redcope
don't play if you can't handle losing

>>12612740
>leaders of red and white
Those are ceremonial roles, they don't even participate in most events. If they were actually interested in representing the teams they would have consulted the participants (or at least the team leaders) regarding the points change.

>>12612544
>>12612740
This isn't theoretical either, if you watch the event she was the second worst out of the entire team (only slightly better than sana who didn't eat) and you would be delusional to think this wasn't on purpose

>>12611204
white lost the last race and also had pity points, it's a fair draw

>>12611280
WHAT DOES THE REDDIT FROG HAVE TO DO WITH THAT?

>>12612914
pity points where?

>>12612914
Did you remember to account for points from two rigged PvP matches?

>>12611776
Haachama didn't get any pity points

I really hope this festival stops being a thing. It actively makes the community for it worse to the point Miko had to put out a fucking announcement for it.
That's not the sort of thing that you want to have in your fanbase.
This board melted the FUCK down when it looked like someoen couldn't be there over a scheduling conflict, then melted the FUCK down again when it got moved and they patted themselves on the back for having been the ones that made the attendee (whose own schedule remained unchanged) force to back down.

You literally do not deserve to watch this sort of thing. You're so fucking awful.
Fuck you.

I guarantee you any retard complaining about 1 a single bonus point for the FINAL GAME has nothing to say about Miko literally altering the fucking landscape of red light green light so Haachama could get 3 points for white instead of 0. Petty faggots.

>>12612821
>they would have consulted the participants (or at least the team leaders) regarding the points change
Who would have agreed to the rule change, because they're japs and idols

If Mio were to run a a Holo Koshien she would allow endless re-roll for character making

>>12613093
5ch enjoyed it though, it turns out we were the real retards all along

>>12613204
You didnt read the rules for that game did you...?
Atleast try harder to stir shit up.

>>3 points for making it to the end without dying no matter how long it takes.

>>12611948
>But what are the chances that the last 2 who finishes the race was kiara and moona
Everyone's anchor was their captains you dramafag

>>12613093
Nothing that happens here means anything. The containment breaks barely reach anyone in jp, who cares.

>>12613309
5ch is the opposite of this board. They hate competition and someone winning. They want this kind of thing. Everyone here loved the Mario Kart tournament with Suisei winning but 5ch absolutely hated it

>>12613204
white was getting dominated in the beginning so miko tipped the scales for them so they wouldnt get demoralized, she did the same at the end for the other side.
anything SEETHING at the final result is from the white team projecting

>>12613324
Haahcama literally got herself stuck you mongoloid. She couldn't earn the 3 points without Miko clearing blocks in front of her. And then later white team schizos bitch that Mio offers the same courtesy to red. How is this complicated?

>>12613669
>white was getting dominated in the beginning
Sure, but keep in mind that the very first race was rigged because instead of a clean C vs. C match, they put Amelia Speedson against Fubuki, the world record holder with more than ten times the detective’s experience with the event. She would’ve annihilated everyone if the obstacle race was run the same as every other event.

>>12613816
>complaining about pairing
Im talking about pity points that were awarded and restarts white team got when they were getting smashed.

>>12611204
Pekora did nothing wrong. It was the judge fault, not her
She just playing the game

>>12611204
Blame Mori Calioppe

Red won more events, red light green light was overweighed and cheated by botan. It's as simple as that.

>>12613751
How the fuck giving more points is equal to unstucking someone because your tour is fucked?

>>12613093
>it's just for fun
>scheduled ages in advance
>make sure you practice
>5 hours in the middle of the night
>no explanations of events to the non-jps
>400 ping
>redo events over and over because of a small tiny rule break that doesnt have any effect in the end
>just for fun
Its presented as something serious. It's treated as something serious when they remove the fun to replay the same boring pvp event 4 times with the same people, but then presented as fun and non-competitive when they give points away for free. If they laughed it off during the fuckups during the squid game and pvp event it would of shown that the event was just for fun, but instead they decided to be extremely autistic to the point where nobody even wanted to play anymore. Instead of making it competitive or fun they decided to make it the worst of both.

>>12613939
Its literally one point schizo

>>12613922
And PvP was cheated by read team. Your point?

This is worse than /sp/ seething kek

>>12611204
Orange team won!
Stop the Count!

>>12613954
That's a lot of words I'm not gonna read.
>>12613544
>>12613309
Then why'd Miko have to address it?
I don't know where the screamers that reach them are and wouldn't dare guess, but they're certainly somewhere.

>>12613971
Point being that both teams cheated, and a freebie point is completely fair in that position. Also
>PvP was cheated by red team
No red team member abused the cheat, unlike the cheaters in red light green light. Thats essentially equivalent to chammers getting stuck.

>>12613964
One pity poin that saved Red team and forced draw.
Also, it should be 10 points, like it was before last minute changes.

Last year was literally the same so nothing new

>>12613751
How is that her fault? Faulty map or buggy MC, you should not be able to get stuck like that.

The bare minimum points for finishing is the least she deserved.
If this happened to some more vocal, sore looser in this event they would whine until a rematch 100%

>>12611204
I perfected my rigging guys, you can't complain anymore right?

>>12614022
>reds don't used it
They had rigged dispenser. Did you even saw stream? Miko and Mio even repaired it live. after thrid battle.

>>12614013
Oh I mean some exist but I was just pointing out 4chan is way worse about caring over nothing

>>12614089
Did the reds know? If not, then they didnt abuse it.

Can >we, whitefags and redfags, at least agree that the whole event was fucked? Squid Game was rife with glitches and ping issues, hoppers/dispensers/I-don’t-know-my-Minecraft-terminology were broken until the last do-over in the pvp event, and arrows did diddly squat to anyone in the elytra event. The obstacle course was the closest this entire event got to a fair and legitimate contest, and even that one had last-second changes made to screw with anyone who’d practiced on it before the festival.

>>12611776
?
Theres no time limit for that game
Her 3 points are legit

>>12614108
Anon, it meant white couldn’t steal from them, which is what you’re supposed to do after all the ores have been mined.

>>12614108
Whites still couldn't take anything from their dispenser so they were fucked
Losing by 4 points out of 200 when you literally can't steal from them, but they can steal from you.

Look at Luna trying to use Reds dispenser

>>12614101
>Oh I mean some exist but I was just pointing out 4chan is way worse about caring over nothing
That's very fair.
Maybe eventually we'll manage to settle into watching this the way we watch 4chan cup. That had yeaaaars of salt too but eventually became decently relaxed.

>>12614192
>>12614196
Anons, if you dont know about something being broken you cant abuse it. So what red did wasnt abusing an exploit, unlike what white did.

>>12614239
Ignorance and lack of malice doesn’t change the fact that the event was completely broken in favor of Red, anon.

>>12614280
No red member abused the exploit in red light green light. If they did, the results would have been different. So we have white knowingly abusing an exploit, and red being unknowingly helped by an exploit. One is worse than the other.

they should have a decider match in csgo

>>12614340
If shit wasn't busted then results would be different too.

>>12614280
Also, red literally won more events yet had less points in the end, because red light green light was overweighed. Is that not in favor of white team?

>>12614340
>No red member abused the exploit in red light green light
Gura learned it from watching Pekora, anon. You’re going to try to convince me that Pekora didn’t know how things worked?

>>12614431
Pekora didnt abuse it after it was disallowed, unlike Botan and (possibly) Ame.

>>12614410
It was in favor of those who won that one.
And Miko/Mio can't see future

>Have 6 team
>Makes it a boring 1v1 instead of a full league/tourney
>Had to rig it to give it a sense of competition because they can't balance the teams
Interest dropping instead of increasing as the events past by because of this

>>12614410
>in favor of the team with the worst ping
lmao

>>12614410
That event was literally made to tip the scales since it was a certain amount that proceeded to the next round.
It could theoretically have been only Red team in the final round or vice versa.

>>12614491
>It was in favor of those who won that one.
>And Miko/Mio can't see future
So? Doesnt change the fact that RLGL was overweighed and cheated by white. It would be pure bullshit to say that the 1 point was unfair and not say that red team winning more but having less points wasnt.
>>12614563
It was in favor of the person who won it.

>Practice for hours over the course of a week.
>Arbitrarily adds one point to red team score to force a tie
Every white team holo that actually sat down and practiced should be furious.

>>12614593
Yeah, which is bullshit. Having literally one event determine most of the game is inherently unfair, and it would have been unfair whoever won it.

A haiku:
Tribalfags malding
Unitychads are winning
OP is a faggot
>inb4 people say op is two syllables

>>12614619
Do you realize that Red team won like 80% of the matches all put together? The only reason white was even in the race was because point allocation was all over the place. Red light green light was worth way more points than any other game for no reason. Red was the better team. Red won more games.

The true culprit is the friends we made along the way.

>destroys tribalfags with one simple trick

>>12614505
The white vs red format is like an ancient and sacred thing for Jap, it dates back to the Genpei War in 12th century

>>12614431
Did you watch? Pekora accidentally did it for a few blocks, immediately stopped, wondered why she wasn't killed, thought it was wrong and was a bit worried about accidentally cheating but didn't use it again. Gura intentionally abused it.

>>12611204
Blame Aqua

>create content for everyone to enjoy
>everyone has fun
>unitychads enjoy stream
>anon is mad
could there have been a better outcome?

>>12614710
Does Miko strike you as a mathematical and statistical genius?

If you expect each sequence of the games to be of completely equal value in terms of win/loss and points rewarded for appropiate performance im sorry to say you came to the wrong event.

>>12615001
Ok sure but then don't bitch about 1 bonus point at the end. White team people acting like they got robbed when they won 20% of the total games. Fuck off with that.

>>12608652
They should lean into muh rigged wrestling next year. At the climactic final PvP event, someone who dropped out earlier because tummy hort reappears, presses a button that detonates all of the TNT that was secretly built into the pitch, then half of both of the teams reveal they were secretly imposters and help her steal the trophy, and the final event becomes a capture-the-flag PvP battle of both teams versus the turncoats across the entire event area.

>>12615042
That one point changed final outcome.

>>12615231
Yes, it made it much better.

They should lean into muh rigged wrestling next year. At the climactic final PvP event, someone who dropped out earlier because tummy hort reappears, presses a button that detonates all of the TNT that was secretly built into the pitch, then half of both of the teams reveal they were secretly imposters and help her steal the trophy, and the final event becomes a capture-the-flag PvP battle of both teams versus the turncoats across the entire event area.

>>12614808
This. It was very obviously accidental, not something she meant to do and didn't do it again. Despite this she owned up to it and told Miko about it despite it being an accident, regardless of possible repercussions. Gura started fucking running a whole 3 seconds before green light even popped up, repeatedly. Quite a big difference. Too many people on here don't watch streams or bother doing their research and just parrot shit they see other people say.

So who won this shit? I missed it. I was drunk in a shitty LA club and the girl i was talking to and dancing with started lezzing out with some butch dyke and ruined my night. Then she went left both the dyke and me. Fuck nightclubs, all you get is blue balls, also fuck dykes, fuck Kiara too for being a dyke and also being Kiara.

>>12615510
You'll undoubtedly get tons of people who will tell you white won, but the tournament organizers said it was a tie, 300-300, and that's all that really matters (other than the girls having fun).

>>12615252
K-kino....

I feel bad for the people who spent time practicing for it to just be a joke finish, I feel bad for the ENs who had to stay up all night on an extremely laggy server just for all it to be for nothing. This clip sums it up honestly

>>12615510
bunch of boring block game nonsense. Nobody won, no point to it.

>>12615510
Noone asked for your blog post. Go sleep to sober up.
Also, it was a tie

>>12616057
You feel bad for ame. Smh. Understanble

>>12616057
Anon here just learned how to project.
Everyone is happy with the tie, what's important is the individual events, not the overall result.

>>12614151
They need to start planning earlier than like a week beforehand. Seems like they though they had most of the work done from last year and didn't need to think as deeply about this year despite this year being more complicated overall.

>>12616118
I dont wanna sober up, i wanna not dance with a closeted dyke who leaves you for some butch bitch. No wonder no one likes Kiara and yurishit, what kind of bullshit is that.

>>12616030
Sounds retarded, i hope Kiara had a bad time, fuck yurishit.

>>12616070
Clubs are nonsense too, 120dollars to go in and get cucked by a butch lesbian and drink shitty drinks. I want my money back. fuck kiara.

I think this night ruined my lesbian fetish.

Did you rike it nigga~?

So other than Gura's bullshit did anyone else blatantly try to cheat? I don't consider abusing a bad mechanic to be cheating if no rule existed against doing i to be clear.

Put boxing 1v1. Ring surrounded by lava then its fair and fun

>>12616185
>Ame is famously competitive
>wow nobody wins and nobody loses in a monotone voice
There is no way she is happy with the tie, I doubt Gura Ina or Kiara are either

>>12616689
It was obvious from the start when Ame was moved into the wrong category in the obstacle course just so they could deny her a gold.

> Claimed the game isn't important, but rigging to fake "equality", which escalates the shit even worse
what a political move

>>12611280
Fuck you pekofrog poster.

So I have been busy, I didn't catch the event and I am not reading through this whole thread of autists and schizos.
Anybody want to tell me why all of those autists and schizos are mad and if it has any basis in reality whatsoever?

>>12611480
>Not checking that the hoppers were working correctly
>Hopper is actually screwed up.
>Fix it and it works as intended for the next match

>>12618168
>Uhh yea there is meat in the hopper
>I'm going to think about this for 10 minutes
>Hmmm Let's do it again

>>12615252
>Wrestling
Please think of Chimkin...

>>12611204
Miko asked for the bonus point after they had already lost. It's as simple as that. Why? Because she fucked up the first relay and thought she had lost the contest for Pekora.
I have no idea what stream everyone else was watching but everyone clearly thought white had won even after the draw, except for Miko who was literally crying from the relief.
It was a lame thing to do but at least Miko doesn't have to stress over how mad Pekora might be with her.

>>12613971
And PvP was cheated
>>12614089
>They had rigged dispenser
>>12614192
>white couldn’t steal from them
They didn't cheat, the dispenser worked fine >>12617393 Red won PVP fair and square

>>12613093
I really hope Hololive English stops being a thing. It actively makes the community for it worse to the point 4chan had to make a fucking board for it

>>12611280
pekofrog poster is right for once

>>12619465
>4chan had to make a fucking board for it
God I wish newfags like you leave this board
You actively make worse and then say retarded shit like this

>>12619465
Why did you leave /jp/ then you fucking scum

condomates are so fucking mad

>>12611204
Imagine your big yearly event being a competition that you consciously rig the outcome for because there can be no conflict in the sterilised post-Coco Hololive.

>>12621011
What an absolute travesty. If the scores are about tied that just calls for a bonus competition, even if it devolves into a bloodsport. A winner should've been decided. It wasn't. And that's terrible.

>>12613093
Nah. I still want onne next year but only JP or even ID. The ones seething are mostly EN fans, so maybe next year they can seethe again, for a different reason.

>>12615042
No, they would have demolish red at all the ppv, won most of the relay, won red light, practically tied at flying. Don't say non-sense

So this event was another convenient tie? Holo sports festivals are trash

>>12611204
Miko

>>12611280
pekofrog poster is wrong for once

>>12612042
>ya'll

>>12621543
Imagine pretending to be Japanese

>>12619465
Imagine Gatekeeping so much while pretending to be Japanese too

>>12611204
>Everyone should play nice so let's just tie the scores
Sounds exactly-exactly like Mio's line of thinking, and Miko would just go with it. People know Mio here mostly as just sexy wolf hag here but she really does have that overly-protective nanny/mommy air about her.

>>12626770
That's cause she is the one mommy type chubba in hololive and perhaps one of the more recognizable mommy types

>>12613954
Basically yeah all the practice streams and redos of events implies they were taking the whole thing pretty seriously, but then to just give pity points to tie them up throws it all out the window. Literally everything would have been all fine if they just didn't fix the score at the end.

>>12626633
this
>>12612042
you have to go back

>>12611280
>Event is advertised as a competition, a rare thing for hololive events.
>Spend days building and balancing the games
>Give time and encourage teams to practice
>Get a whole new server specifically so the lag is less of an issue
>Fans get hyped. some even say they gonna postpone or skip irl shit to watch it, nobody tells them is rigged and competitiveness is not welcome.
>LMAO IT WAS JUST FOR FUN, NOBODY WAS SUPPOSED TO WIN KEK
Anyways I'm blaming management. I don't think the girls wanted this, especially the ones who practiced and the ones who helped building and balancing shit, not mentioning the competitive girls. Now theres nothing to look forward for the next year event. We could be looking at a three on a row next year or the start of a comeback but no we may as well expect another draw, nobody fucking won.

>>12611204
Want to know who to really blame for this?
Aqua, Watame and everyone else who cried during the Mario Kart tournament.

Miko didn't want to see them cry, but this is how competition works. So the solution from her was to get rid of the competitive aspect and just make it a tie.

From now on, don't expect competitive stuff from Hololive. Hell I never heard of children complaining and crying on stream when Nijisanji had their baseball/mario kart/mahjong/smash bros tournament.

>>12611280
Pekofrogbro, you’re not supposed to be this based

>>12621537
Naked battle to the death between team captains.

>>12627373
I hate nijisanji with all my being buf if that is the reason. I will begrudgingly give them a based.

>>12611280
FPBP, i kneel pekofrog poster

>>12627373
Idols crying is good content but Miko wouldn't know anything about either idols or content anyway.

>>12627373
>Want to know who to really blame for this?
>Aqua, Watame and everyone else who cried during the Mario Kart tournament.
Fubuki cried during the 2019 Mario Kart tournament and they did another one.

>>12614013
Jesus christ, either do your eigo reps or attention span reps because that post takes fifteen seconds to read.

>>12627781
Because Mario Kart 2020 was hosted by Towa who like competition.

There was a clip recently from this stream https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71QcIjlIUD0 where Miko asked viewers to watch them like parents watching children and not get too serious. But the clipper conveniently didn't show when she said "Hololive members too" (they are taking this too seriously), probably referencing the Mario Kart tournament.

I barely understood the rules because they were explained in Japanese, and went to sleep before the end, anyway.

Was it actually a tie, or did they just decide the points would be the same because it was close? If so, who actually won?

>>12628023
Winning a round of the relay race gave 10 points and because team red would have lost because of one point even if they won the last relay race Mio and Miko decided that the winner will get 11 points

>>12627373
>Aqua, Watame and everyone else who cried during the Mario Kart tournament.
My oshi made a bank on these tears, this is why MK had everyone's perspective and this shit only had few autists showing their, if this was actually serious tournament everyone would be streaming to capitalize on these tears.

>>12627373
>Want to know who to really blame for this?
>Aqua, Watame and everyone else who cried during the Mario Kart tournament.
The last sports festival was a tie before Aqua had a mental breakdown about losing Mario Kart.

But if them crying is the reason for making the festival less competitive. Then that's just debuffing the entire thing in general. There is no such thing as friendly competition.

It's way unfortunately Nijisanji benefitted from this.

After thinking about it some more, I've realized a tie was probably for the best because they're all women.

>>12628072
But that was decided before Red won? If so, seems like a legitimate tie to me. Not like that was the first rule change made on the fly to make up for something stupid, and the point distribution between events was really stupid.

Ties suck for everyone
Nobody ends up being happy

>>12627859
>Jesus christ, either do your eigo reps or attention span reps because that post takes fifteen seconds to read.
And it would still not be worth my time.

>>12628414
Going into the final relay race the score was 300 white-289 red. Scoring up to that point had been fair, but since it was so close Mio and Miko notified the final racers that if red won the final race, they would tack on one(1) point, and it would be a tie. This, combined with the final race being extremely close led to a pure kino end to the event. Anyone who tells you different needs to take their meds.

>>12628932
So functionally White won for real but red got a pity point to tie nit.

>>12629020
Functionally it was scripted as fuck and anyone who denies this is unironically a social autist
>miko throwing because if red first won they wouldn't be able to tie up in a believable way
>mio throwing so that red wins
>calli forgot about the script and threw her own team, sana had to throw again so that red continues winning
>chicken throwing against moona of all people

>>12629020
There was fuckery all throughout. If you don't count that pity point, you ought not to count Miko helping Haachama finish Red Light Green Light, and the three points they got from that, which would make the final score 299-297 for Red.

Or we can say the rules are whatever the fuck Miko and Mio say they are, and it was a tie.

>>12611204
The margin of error increased after every restart. There was no way to calculate a definitive victory while taking that in to consideration. Only if the point difference was greater or there were no technical issues (eg. the hopper) would a definitive victory have be possible.

>>12628459
They're trying to avoid what happened to Aqua in the mario kart tournament

>>12629521
How about you actually watch the fucking stream or even know the most basic knowledge about that shitty block game, haachama's keys were stuck from pressing shift too many times, miko breaking the blocks would've actually made her lose, it wasn't miko that "helped" it was mio who told haachama that her keys might be been stuck.
So how about you fucking kill yourself you dumb EOP scum.

I'm glad Gura took what happened so well. She got ousted for no reason in the red light/green light game, had to replay the PvP game several times and won, catches up to Callie to and almost delivers the complete win to White. Old Gura would have been seething silently and close to tears.

>>12611204
>everything was botched, fucked, and not working
Nothing with declaring a tie since nothing besides the first two events were clean, even then there was some scuff.

>>12629933
You dumb bitch.

It was never clarified what happened. There were suggestions that it might be something wrong with her keyboard, but that was about the hankaku/zenkaku key, not sticky keys. If you're going to try to be an aggressive asshole over the facts, at least get your facts right.

But either way, it's not clear how she started moving again, just that it wouldn't have happened without outside interference from the hosts.

>>12628932
>Scoring up to that point had been fair
Only if you ignore the fact that the first 2 pvp rounds heavily favored red due to an improperly orientated dispenser. I get why they didn't want to redo the first two rounds again since it was already dragging, but they should have thrown the pvp points out instead of letting them stand.

>>12630533
Or declare the whole thing a tie so no one gets too upset about the farce.

>>12627998
>Because Mario Kart 2020 was hosted by Towa who like competition

Poor Towa suck with a washed-up hags who want nothing other than a boring hugbox
No wonder she enjoys playing with outside people more than with any Holomem

>Expecting anything competent coming from Miko.
You are all fucking retarded. And Mio still suffers from her miso soup inferiority complex so she obviously just went with all of Miko's decision without thinking.

>>12630017
>replay the PvP
Gura's side only won because IRyS shit the bed so hard the game was over at the start.
They would have lost if the hopper didn't magically stop working at the end of the original match.

>>12628932
>Scoring up to that point had been fair,
>Peko gets to stunt as she moonwalks through redlights
>gura and ina do the same thing, but somehow now it's a problem

>>12627998
There must have been real money on the mariokart tournament. No other way to explain the reactions.

>>12630625
Imagine me misjudging Towa and not realizing that she is based. Now if she can play something competitive other than Apex. That would be Kino.

>>12616689
She's not the only one, but she had a chance to show what she's made of, challenging Fubuking herself. She came out short, but it is what it is. Everyone had a chance to show what they're made of and everything that comes with it, choking included.
It's not because it's a tie that erases everything they did, it enhances it because every single competition lead to it being a 1 point difference.

>>12630696
Because of JP favoritism.

>>12627373
Deron cried a bit after her team got assraped in Koshien. You know, these people behind avatars are actual adults and not children to be coddled, you don't even treat children like this when they lose.

>>12630437
>reddit spacing
You dumb fucking cunt, at the end of the day it doesn't matter, what matters is that it was her keyboard's fault and being given a tip on why it might have happened isn't interference from the hosts. I would agree that if miko destroying the blocks helped her move again but that was not the case at all, now being awarded an extra point because a new rule was added simply out of pity, that's fucking interfercne.

>>12626770
FUCK I NEED TO BREED THIS HAG

>>12630761
Deron cried a bit right, but didn't fucking cry like Aqua. Literally my son cried like that when he was 3. I dare you to find me a clip of a Nijisanji member crying like this

>>12630696
Pekora accidentally did it once, realized what was up and didn't do it again. It's not remotely the same thing, you schizo fuck.
Besides those matches weren't worth points, just classification to the event that actually gave points. Gura would've made it if she didn't choke and die at the very end.

Points were fucked the whole time. The first, second, and last events were worth peanuts. Over half of the points came from Elytra, which was worth five times as much as it should have been. Red Light Green Light should have just thrown all of them on the field at once, shouldn't have had tiered scoring that e.g. gave 2nd and 3rd the same score, was worth twice as many points as it should have been, and on top of it all, was broken.

One extra point in the last event was not where things fell apart. Everything was fucked to the point where if they wanted it to be a serious fair competition, the entire festival should have been done over from scratch. But that would be a stupid outcome because it wasn't a serious competitive event. So a tie was perfectly reasonable.

What they really ought to do in the future is scrap both Red vs White and cumulative points entirely. Make it a little more Olympics-ish, have a fuckton of teams with five or six members each, and just consider every game individually in a vacuum.

>>12627373
You fags do realize that Aqua fans went after Towa for a while after all this, right? Miko didn't want a repeat of that.

>>12630967
Anon, you should go learn how to be a functional human being.
The girls had fun, they had a chance to compete, they tried their best and it showed. Most people came into the event having trained. The PvP matches every team had their own strats, the teams with strats on the ball throwing won, the ones who practiced the obstacle killed it and so on.
They showed it mattered, they competed to win, the result was the best possible and that is it. Now keep seething.
Blaming two girls who been organizing pretty much the entire thing by themselves, for the sake of the others and the viewers, over 'muh points' is completely retarded, you schizo.

>>12630885
Way to backtrack, faggot. And no, it wasn't clear that it was the keyboard, and yes, it would still be interference no matter what help was given from the hosts.

And by the way, "Reddit spacing" is a meme concocted to bait newfags into outing themselves. This is how we've always done things here, newfag.

>>12630885
It doesn't matter because the help that haachama got was being allowed to finish the race, it was already over and even if it was the fault of a bug you can't just let someone finish the race whenever they want, otherwise literally everyone below the top 5 would have tried to stall and finish whenever they want instead of exploding like retards

>>12631620
You realize there's no such thing as 'the race was over', right. It's over when there's no one else in the field. 11th+ Get 3 points, it was written in the rules. Both she and Marine got awarded 3 points.
You also realize you get 5 points from 6th to 10th, right. So there's an incentive to finish top 10.

>>12631174
And you should go learn how to recognize constructive criticism. I didn't blame anyone for anything. The #1 goal was to put on a good show, and #2 was for the people involved to have a good time. Both were obviously accomplished.

The problem is when some of the viewers take it too seriously and cry foul, which they obviously don't want. If they want to avoid that in the current format, there needed to be more work done on point distribution between games. But the better way would be to just avoid making the whole thing a single large-scale Us vs Them competition. That wouldn't require any balancing at all, makes the viewers less hostile, and prevents people from trying to find small issues that contribute to the overall final score and change the winner. Because there is no final overall score.

>>12631174
I don't know what's with /vt/ and calling literally any sign of negativity schizo, meds, etc, and you're a retard that's arguing about a completely different thing

>>12631794
>constructive criticism
Maybe you should learn what THAT IS first, because that ain't it, chief.

>>12631776
I mean they're not just gonna wait until the heat death of the universe if Haachama doesn't start moving again. If she was all on her own, that event would end either when she figured out how to free herself, or they just decided to give her a DNF.

>>12631926
The race was literally over, the count didn't start again until haachama got free from the bug herself

>>12631794
>But the better way would be to just avoid making the whole thing a single large-scale Us vs Them competition.
Just have the hosts come out and say "Yo, some of our girls are playing on 400+ ping, lmao just sit back and enjoy the comedy, nerds"

lol

>>12632094
>lmao just sit back and enjoy the comedy, nerds
>but let me balance these events in such a way that the only possible result is a tie
I'm sure everyone had a lot of fun watching miko trying to fix all the bugs on the main stream and making sure both teams win

>>12632089
You realize it's the girls who 'start' and 'end' it by clicking on the command block buttons, right. There's no such thing as 'it's over'.

>>12631926
Sure thing, bud. Just tell me where my criticism wasn't constructive so I can work on that.

There isn't really any good way to deny that the points were fucked. That's fine because as far as the goals went, the point totals didn't actually matter much. But the event could still be improved by either unfucking the points or reducing how much viewers are going to care about the points.

>>12632237
So if haachama got stuck forever would they simply have waited for her to get unstuck and let her resume the race as normal?

>>12632594
If she REALLY got stuck in a way she couldn't get out, they'd probably just count her as dead. But since it was a simple fix, they just let her continue, there's no mystery there.
As long it's not in bad faith, like stalling to waste everyone's time, there's no harm in it.

>>12632692
The event was flawed from the beginning anyways, you have to put a time limit or else there's no point in not going as slow as possible if you're behind

>>12632985
Anon, the scoring is. 30/25/20/10/10. Beyond that is 5 points until 11th+, who gets 3 points. So yes, there is incentive to be top 10. There's nothing flawed, it's a simple concept called risk-reward.

>>12633430
Whoa 5 points instead of 3, which 3 people missed out on because they were retards and which would have won their team the game (if it hadn't been scripted)

>>12633939
I'm sure they're retarded for trying to win, you do you anon, you do you.

I just finished watching Red A and White A pov. Starting White B now. Which one should I not watch? I heard White C was salty as fuck. and the Hakotaro wasn't good as cameraman

>>12635535
They lost an easy as shit and broken as hell game so yes they are retarded or maybe their loss was on the script

>>12631802
Calling things schizo is /vt/'s downvote

>>12636088
meds

white cope is fun

>>12637627
Based bbc bro

>>12629380
BHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA schizo retard

>>12611204
Gura for cheating

>>12615510
woah slow down Joey Diaz

>>12614939
Nop

>>12611280
Fuck me pekofrog poster

Mori rigged the entire thing she’s too powerful bros

Jesus Christ, if your oshi saw what you guys are saying in these threads...

>>12648447
Is this the fabled 6%?

I am to blame.
I called Yagoo last minute and told him I wouldn't tolerate Miko's soul crushing defeat by one point when she put so much effort into this event.

>>12611280

>>12611280
Fpbp

>>12611280
Based

>>12614158
>Her 3 points are legit
No it's not. Miko used god mode to get her stuck so she won't die in the middle of the game but forgot about her for some reason, that's why you see haachama left out in the open when everyone was at the finish line. Miko was literally giving her free points for white team.

>>12612992
>pity points where?
Red Light Green Light
PVP with all the fucking restarts especially for Gura's team.

>>12611280
Fuck you Pekofrog Poster

Bump

>>12611280
fbp

>>12611204
This was artia's fault, as everything else that has happened last year