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>be kiara
>collab with your oshi
>your oshi leaves disgusted and never collabs with you again

>be ollie
>collab with your oshi
>your oshi leaves panties drenched and collabs with you 3 times thus far
https://youtu.be/lXjcd_dcjkw

>> No.1228095

Not Kiara's fault. Blame Enma.

>> No.1228157

>>1227975
Imagine Ollie and Matsuri pissing on you

>> No.1228210
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>>1227975
that is life

>> No.1228242

Well, for colab with Matsuri all you have to do is say "Wanna play APEX?"

>> No.1229488

>>1227975
Why wouldn't she leave her drenched panties? It's Matuli we're talking about, that sort of thing tends to happen to her sometimes.

>> No.1229838

>>1228210
the difference...

>> No.1229916

>>1228210
chickenbros...

>> No.1230220

>>1228210
I cannot imagine being trilingual but losing out to Minecraft autism.

>> No.1230965

>>1228210
Have pekomoon fans ever recovered?

>> No.1231266

Pekora just doesn't seem to do collabs very often. The most recent one I can see on her channel is the Botan one from Jan 5. She's probably done a few group ones that are on other channels since then but it's not common.

>> No.1231313

>>1230965
No, they barely interract publicly
Fucking pecker too busy having 3D VRchat sex with Mooner

>> No.1232834

>>1227975
Now this is some shitposting I can get behind. I love both

>> No.1232915

>>1232834
>I love both
Why?

>> No.1233206

>>1232915
Not him, but they're both kind of the same high energy outgoing type, aren't they? Except for the viewer's potential racial prejudice they aren't really that different from each other.

>> No.1233233

>>1231266
Pekora hates foreigners. She only tolerates Moona because she can leech subs from her and treat her like a slave in Minecraft.

>> No.1233312
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>>1233206
My friends and I have always referred to Ollie as the superior Kiara. High enegy outgoing time but actually good

>> No.1233357

>>1233312
That's why I said
>Except for the viewer's potential racial prejudice

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>>1233357
Rrats, I'm pretty sure that Hololive ID is a SEA PsyOp.
I used to hate-

>> No.1233495

>>1233312
Aside of both being energetic, they really aren't that much alike.

>> No.1234180

>>1233495
It'd be nice to hear from someone who actually watches both regularly about the differences. I honestly doubt that anyone who goes for "better X" does when that claim comes in.
I personally can't stand Ollie so I couldn't really say how she is beyond the twitter & youtube chat simping spam she seems to throw at absolutely everyone.

>> No.1241312

>>1228095
It's never Kiara's fault is it?

>> No.1241416

>>1233206
Not quite. Ollie has more social awareness and knows how to treat her senpais respectfully despite letting her character go wild at times much like Marine. That's why everyone likes her in Hololive JP. Kiara on the other hand, too closely mirrors her character in that she rubs people the wrong way. Westerners find her rude, Japanese find her to be nuts.

>> No.1241490
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Is this the Ollie thread? Remember to watch her Minecraft stream tonight!

>> No.1241549

>>1241312
Fault at what? Do you think Pekora had such a bad impression that she went out of her way to block any contact and make up a story how she isn't allowed to play on the EN server of MC?

>> No.1241557

>>1233495
Ollie is a hard number fag, begs for collabs and spam messages the EN girls on discord. Shes the memes of Kiara come to life.

>> No.1241602

>>1241416
>knows how to treat her senpais respectfully
>I PEED LIKE A CHARGE RIFLE LMAO SO RANDUMB XD

>> No.1241606

>>1241557
Kiara being a numberfag was never the main issue people had with her, you know that right? Being a numberfag was used as an explanation for her more off-putting behavior.

>> No.1241612

>>1233233
I can't believe Pekora would use Moona to reenact the occupation of Indonesia...

>> No.1241620

>>1241602
That was great though, too bad Ame is a fucking cunt

>> No.1241630

>>1233233
>Pekora leeches subs from Moona
...

>> No.1241632

SEA monkeys are pathetic.

>> No.1241635

>>1241602
Ame is a gross gremlin by nature anon, perfect person for that.

>> No.1241665 [DELETED] 

>>1241620
Do SEA niggers really........?

>> No.1241672

>>1227975
>Ollie
>full of energy
>No drama at all
>Isn't hamstrung by awful managers

>Kiara
>Very needy
>Tons of drama
>Required to consult five different managers to use the toilet.

I don't even think it's Kiara's fault.

>> No.1241704

>>1241602
Let's not pretend she didn't say that to Amelia "Gamer bottle" watson. She probably thought she was in good company.

>> No.1241713

>>1241602
That was funny tho

>> No.1241748

>>1241713
>>1241704
Do Zombros really.......?

>> No.1241762

Which vtuber is likely to use a piss bottle?

>> No.1241779

>>1231266
Pekora's notoriously one of the most introverted members of Hololive, right behind Aqua.

Well, not like the newfags in this thread bother to look further than "HAHA FUNNY RABBIT", so it's no surprise they don't realize it.

>> No.1241799

>>1241762
Probably the one who made a joke about doing it

>> No.1241804
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>>1241665
I think anyone with a functioning brain would want Ollie to pee directly down their throat with the force of a charge rifle.

>> No.1241829 [DELETED] 

>>1241804
Shes a shit skin so no thanks.

>> No.1241846

>>1241748
There's nothing wrong with a piss joke.

>> No.1241853

>>1241602
She probably thought Amelia would appreciate the humor considering the types of jokes Ame makes.

>> No.1241867

>>1241846
Other then it being absolutely lowest common denominator humor.

>> No.1241889

>>1241853
So basically she knew nothing about Amelia or the lore she had built on her stream, showing lack of respect for her sempais?

>> No.1241901

Srly separating JP and EN minecraft servers was a huge mistake

>> No.1241910

>>1241889
Amelia will always be a trashy whore anon, you can't erase that.

>> No.1241957

>>1241910
Watson Whore!

>> No.1241963

>>1241853
She never watches her collabs then. For fuck sake, even Haachama behaves when she is with Amelia.

>> No.1241971

>>1241549
>>1241312
>>1228095
what're these enma head cannon i keep reading about?
Did something happen to the enma that was slicing off people in l4d? turned out to be the devil?

>> No.1241986

>>1241910
No the trashy whore is the zombie who begs for collabs, annoys her sempais constantly, throws herself at everyone in a shit attempt at yuri baiting, hooks herself onto a holostar boy like a whore then has to back peddle with some HAHA JUST ONIICHAN LOL bullshit, and constantly integrates her toilet usage into streams.

>> No.1242022

>>1241901
No

>> No.1242033

>>1241971
Just brainlets trying to get some idiotic narrative going.

>> No.1242038

>>1241986
No anon, Ame is a literal whore. Do your roommate reps.

>> No.1242063

>>1241986
[insert clip of Coco talking about old men reveling in her diarrhea in a recent stream here]

>> No.1242064

>>1241867
It shares that level with sex jokes, which I doubt anyone cares about.

>> No.1242068

>>1228157
based

>> No.1242078

>>1242064
Yes which is why Vshojo is held in such high regards on this board

>> No.1242080

>>1242038
>ame
>literal whore
someone clearly hasn't

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>>1242038

>> No.1242100

>>1241971
This specific one is talking about Pekora saying she wanted to go on the EN server and being denied. Don't think she gave any more details so we don't know which side said no and also there's obviously more than one Enma anyway. The one who played l4d2 with them is probably the one Ina is friends with, who I'd bet is NOT the one blocking collabs

>> No.1242107

>>1241672
Idols don't use the toilet.

>> No.1242119

>>1242100
This
There are several managers and it's clear that multiple have to agree for them to do anything. There's probably one 'no-fun-allowed' twitter bitch who hates Japan, hates Hololive, and everything to do with the company, but took the job begrudgingly and hates everyone there.

>> No.1242153

>>1241971
Pekora stated she isn't allowed to play on EN's Minecraft server, effectively confirming there's a pull from the EN side to block JP collabs, and considering Enma is the only face we have for the management, all the blame fell there.

>> No.1242177

>>1241602
>>1241889
>>1241986
It was funny and I'm 100% sure Ame was just being shy, like she is in most collabs. Ollie is cute and I hope they collab again soon.
t. teamate

>> No.1242206

>>1242177
They clearly liked eachother these tards just read too far into things

>> No.1242222

>>1242107
https://youtu.be/5mUtQ35YlFs?t=54

>> No.1242223 [DELETED] 

>>1242177
T. SEA nigger you mean.

>> No.1242239

The part people don't mention is JP collabs were probably slowed because Kiara fucked up so bad at doing them at a rapid pace.

>> No.1242250

>>1242153
Could've easily been from the JP side.

Also, there's Jenma, Calli and Kiara's manager.

>> No.1242255

I'm starting to feel a little bad for KFP and Kiara
Like there's 6 new threads a day ripping into her

>> No.1242315

>>1242239
I think (total speculation) they were slowed because JP is unironically a drama farm currently, CoCo zhangs, Pekoras panic attack, Haachamas break, Mels mismanagement and sexual abuse. EN is clean in comparison.

>> No.1242340

>>1242255
Made by the same people!

>> No.1242377

>>1242340
Wouldn't be surprised if more people have hopped on for the ride. I'm sure orangefags for instance have noticed the obvious theme

>> No.1242397

>>1242223
You're trying too hard to fit in

>> No.1242457 [DELETED] 

>>1242397
You will never be white

>> No.1242496

>>1242457
different anon here, what kind of response is that lmao

>> No.1242511

>>1233396
Card, now.

>> No.1242536

>>1242457
Neither will Kiara the mixed goblina with nasty teeth. All the racial taunts in the world won't make people like Kiara more than Ollie. In fact, attacking her so superficially will probably only garner more sympathy since she is a nice person.

>> No.1242580

>>1242496
>>1242536
>A minute apart
>different person btw

>> No.1242600 [DELETED] 

>>1233396
Can you share the koi card bro, so i can make her have sex with futa Korone

>> No.1242609

>>1242536
Isn't Kiara full Australian? What makes you think she's mixed?
Not that it matters and you both need to take your meds. This board is no place for racism.

>> No.1242887

>>1241602
but my funny peepeepoopoo vtuber

>> No.1242988

>>1242609
>This board is no place for racism.
tell that to Japs who all constantlyu assault Ina because she is korean
every single jp holo bullies her non-stop

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>>1242988
This is a funny rrat because Ina gets along with the JP holos better than anyone else in EN. Even Pochi and the ID girls love collabing with Ina.

>> No.1243191

>>1241665
>>1241829
>>1242223
>>1242457
Pff

>> No.1243209

>>1243129
like most rrats here it's completely true_________

>> No.1243330

>>1241665
>>1241829
>>1242223
>>1242457
Based jannies

>> No.1243382

>>1243129
You can't hate something that is so flat.

>> No.1243599

>>1242255
I don't get how she has so many Antis, it's so weird.

>> No.1243666

>>1242315
>sexual abuse

What???

>> No.1243676

>>1243599
idk especially since I cum to her roommate like twice a day

>> No.1243708

>>1243599
Probably just the same handful of autists constantly lurking to strike the moment Kiara's mentioned.

>> No.1243749

>>1243599
>so many
it's not that many, somehow she managed to attract the most autistic schizos to hate her
it's the same situation as /v/ where one autist pics a game he dislikes and constantly spams threads 24/7

>> No.1243872

>>1243599
It's just the same dedicated schizos.
It's just more apparent cause anything that isn't /hlg/ is too slow to bury them.

>> No.1243973

>>1243666
It was almost a year ago but Mel's manager was a scumbag and Cover wouldn't help her until she brought in a lawyer.

>> No.1244025

>>1243666
Dunno about any sexual abuse, but she was harassed/stalked by someone she knew.

>> No.1244072

>>1243666
mel raped her manager with a broom up the ass
Yagoo had to pay the cops to look the other way
There's an AV of it too, titled "I wanted to become manager for an entertainment talent, but I got splinters in my rectum and now I have erectile dysfunction"
The cameraman left the AV industry, traumatized

>> No.1245140

>>1233206
They're completely different in that Ollie comes off as a lot more natural and genuine and is actually entertaining. Kiara feels a lot like she's playing a character, Ollie feels like she's basically herself turned up to 11 unless you think Ollie's going to do things like do pratfalls nobody can see and risk hurting herself for her viewers.

>> No.1245229

>>1233233
Kill yourself fag

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>>1233233
pretty crazy how pekora made that comment about Nanking being justified after the whole Cover-CN thing went down

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>>1244072

>> No.1250821
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>>1227975
this is a fair observation but pekora has collab autism while matsuri gets drenched panties after receiving attention from any woman whatsoever

>> No.1251637

>>1243973
I thought the manager stalking her was meant she never actually went to Cover because she didn't think they'd do anything or that it wasn't safe going that route (because her manager might find out) and that Cover never actually learned of it until she went to an attorney.

>> No.1251736

>>1241986
I don't hate Ollie like you do, but I feel refreshed to see that there is at least one other anon who doesn't like her.

>> No.1252275

>>1251736
Me three. Way too much of a zoomer for me, and basically leeching everyone off at least in chat.
Plus the fans are massive hypocrites, basically hating on other chuubas for the exactly same things that they like on the zombie.

>>1245140
Speaking of, you don't sound like you really watch both to make a fair judgment on that.

>> No.1252418

>>1242239
holy shit you niggers not everything bad that happens in hololive is because of kiara. Heres a shocker for you, cover is a poorly run company that stumbled ass backwards into success almost exclusively because the one good thing they can do is hire talent, which includes kiara. This board has an unreasonable hate boner for kiara because of literal seething trannies from /cgl/ and if thats who you want to get your narratives from than youre a fucking faggot that should an hero

>> No.1252881

>>1252275
I watched Kiara the first few months and gave up because I find her fake and not entertaining. I'm still loyally watching Ollie because I find her genuine and entertaining. KDF really are hypersensitive towards any negative words directed at their oshi.

>> No.1253147 [DELETED] 

>>1241490
and support indogs? nah
i have no problem with ollie but i have problems with indog fans. if she leaves the ID branch and joins EN or JP or whatever then yea, fine.

>> No.1253175

>>1252275
I watched Ollie the first few months and gave up because I find her fake and not entertaining. I'm still loyally watching Kiara because I find her genuine and entertaining. Zoombies really are hypersensitive towards any negative words directed at their oshi.

>> No.1253243

>>1253175
It's true what they say, fans really do reflect their oshi and KDF prove it every day by scouring /vt/ for people not kissing Kiara's feet so they can get mad and cry about how persecuted they and their waifu are.

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I watch both, I like both. I don't care.

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>>1253243
....yeah KFP are the problem, not the samfags, falseflaggers and SEAnogs

>> No.1253319

>>1253243
Why do you let an entire fanbase live rent free in your head? Just watch you "better kiara", no one gives a shit about your opinion and that's reflected by their respective success.

>> No.1253346

>>1253243
It's true what they say, fans really do reflect their oshi and ODF prove it every day by scouring /vt/ for people not kissing Ollie's feet so they can get mad and cry about how persecuted they and their waifu are.

>> No.1253489

Ollie > Worse Ollie (Kiara)

>> No.1253518

>>1253243
>KDF prove it every day by scouring /vt/ for people not kissing Kiara's feet
Not hard for them to do when at any given time a lot of the threads are ~80-90% vitriolic shitposting about her by schizo sadcase faggots like (You).

>> No.1253543

>>1242250
Kiara said she and Calli have different managers, and neither of their managers are ENma. She also said each manager is in charge of 2-3 girls.

>> No.1253650

>>1251736
I tried watching the Apex collab with her and Ame, the constant screaming and forced energy was excruciating. I don't know how Ame put up with it.

>> No.1253714 [DELETED] 

>>1253543
>Kiara said she and Calli have different managers
Really?

I only ever heard them saying Jenma is in charge of Calli and Kiara. So I thought jenma = 1 person.

In any case, who are the other girls Kiara's Jenma is in charge of? I heard Kiara actually lived together with jenma for a couple weeks because she had to move because some stalker shizo found out where she lives and followed her around whenever she left the house.

>> No.1253747

This Kiara "shadowban" shit is the dumbest thing

>"I don't show up in search"
What a shock! You picked a generic name like Kiara, where there was existing content (even worse, music). All of HoloEN gen 0 picked a more unique name: "Ame", "Gura", "Calli", "Ina".

>My videos aren't showing up in "sub boxes"
>Notifications aren't being delivered
Your videos likely have trash CTR and Watch Time. That means viewers who use home (NOT subs feed) won't get your videos recommended. That means viewers in the "occasional" notification state won't be sent notifs for your content.

Saying this as someone who works in this space: this isn't a "shadowban". This is just underperforming content that's been getting an artificially boosted sub count via onsite promotion from more successful channels.

>> No.1253790

>>1230220
She can speak many languages except autism

>> No.1253898

>>1253714
Yeah, she said it in one of her recent superchat streams. And if I remember correctly, Calli made it very clear there was a Jenma and a Genma at some point. No idea who the other talents their managers are working with, though. Kiara refused to say.

I remember Kiara having to go to Jenma's place to stream for a few weeks because she was having troubles getting internet hooked up when she first moved to her new place in Japan after the first paycheck. I don't think they were living together, though.

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>>1253489
reminder: all you have to do in order to make the indog seethe, is pic related

>> No.1253923

>>1253543
Calli named her manager J, and there's a design out there on Twitter

>> No.1253983

>>1253908
Do KFPinoys really?

>> No.1253984

>>1253147
That would just bring her indishit fanbase over to the JP/EN side. They must keep her.

>> No.1254038

>>1242609
>This board is no place for racism
Go fucking back, you dont belong here.

>> No.1254083

>>1243330
Trannies cant be based.

>> No.1254114

>>1254038
This used to be case before the China yab. The threads in /jp/ generally agreed that politics weren't supposed to be brought up and that we were here to talk about the girls or shipost.

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>>1228157
God I wish

>> No.1254392

>>1228157
damn...
DAMN

>> No.1254447

>>1253650
This, one time Ame does playing along, Ollie goes full chimp. Full stream just full of that will be painful.

>> No.1254449

>>1228157
They'd better eat asparagus first.

>> No.1254596

>>1234180
I know this is a bait thread, but on the offchance someone's interested:
I think the main difference between Kiara and Ollie is their age. Ollie lacks the life experience and the tactfulness that a proper adult has which makes her more innocent and pure in a sense. She's got that pure confidence that only young'uns have. Kiara, on the other hand, has experienced how shit can life be firsthandedly, and that weighs on her personality a bit, especially when things are not going her way. It's like having an imouto and an oneesan for siblings.

>> No.1254688

>>1243599
95% of them are just shitposters doing it to bait KFP. The remaining 5% belong to butthurt Moonafics

>> No.1254853

Why it's so easy to bait KFP? Is it because majority of them are SEAmonkeys?

>> No.1254891

>>1254596
Thanks, that's actually a pretty good comparison. And fair. Not really something one could expect from a thread like this.

>> No.1254915 [DELETED] 

>>1254114
Ok retard, people said nigger constantly and they'll continue to do so because its the right thing to do.

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>>1254853
they are really easy

>> No.1255034 [DELETED] 

>>1254915
Fag and nigger are 4chan vocab, not politics

>> No.1255092

>>1254853
They always remind me of jp/hlg/, both are so easy to bait. I wouldn't be surprised if they are self-hating SEA.

>> No.1255097

>>1255034
Sick mental gymnastics, its all politics.

>> No.1255150

>>1253266
Based man of the world.

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>>1242255
Schizos found their perfect target. They get off to making Kiara and kfpkeks life hell. Some of them go as far as wanting her dead. All this couldve been prevented if they just took their meds.

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>>1253747
>doesn't show up in the subs feed
>doesn't show up in notifications
>doesn't show up when you're a member
>even if she's live. and you do all the above, she doesn't show up
>doesn't show up even if you specifically search for 'Takanashi Kiara'
>hurr durr not a shadowban
The only person dumber than you is me for responding.

>> No.1255895

>>1255364
>explanation as to why the "shadowban" theory is retarded, causes of what's happening
>"no ur wrong"
stay clueless friend

>> No.1256158

>>1244072
Million dollar lost tapes.

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>>1253747
Are you from Hardware Unboxing antis backed up by cooperation?

>> No.1256242

>>1254853
>KFP
>majority of SEAmonkeys
but the narratives are always SEAnig shitting on KFP, don't you think its weird?

>> No.1256338

>>1255895
Your explanation was retarded and unfounded, she was completely invisible unless you were specifically in her page pressing F5. Even with the supposedly useful bell button and all, compared to 40 other who were showing up just fine even if they were small channels or spicy content.

>> No.1256360 [DELETED] 

>>1242609
Fuck you nigger

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>>1256242
anon, they are self-hating SEA (mostly flips)

>> No.1256417

>>1241971
It's a narrative. These retards are just speculating.

>> No.1256424

>>1242153
Show proof

>> No.1256479

>>1230220
are we talking abt iofi?

>> No.1256482

Ollie is not doing that fake genki voice she does with Matsuri right now. She does sound genuinely happy when praising Matsuri and Matsuri in turn is giving her affections like a chad. I like this pairing. They feel like friends now.

>> No.1256493

>>1256242
>>1256416
another proof >>1248236

>> No.1256498

>>1227975
it's almost like Matsuri loves doing collabs and Pekora hates them

>> No.1256532

>>1241557
anon, that's just how she love her senpai + extroverted bringing

imagine if you have the chance to chat any holo you want

>> No.1256541

I never really got into Ollie, and every time I feel slightly interested in checking her out I remember how literally every Ollie thread is a Kiara anti thread and it turns me off. I know the streamer can't be faulted by her fans but part of the fun of Hololive is discussing on /vt/ and it feels like it's not worth trying to "get into" a girl if her fans are this toxic.

>> No.1256573

>>1256541
Yeah I can definitely feel this also. Luckily there aren't that many holos whose fans are as openly hostile towards other fans within the same company.

>> No.1256619

>>1253147
what happens with the indog fans? they stole your mother from your family?

>> No.1256627

>>1242119
I thought there were two EN managers, Enma and JEnma. Enma manages Trinity and Jenma manages TakaMori.

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>>1256493
kfp please explain

>> No.1256666

>>1256424
https://youtu.be/KrUU4Fap92Y?t=30
OGEY

>> No.1256671

>>1253747
Plz tell me this is pasta

>> No.1256677

>>1256541
Do you think Ollie and Kiara are aware of this? As far as their interactions goes, they seem to be okay with each other. I hope they collab soon. I think it will be good. What is interesting to me about Ollie though is that she collabs with indies and even with an ex-indo Idol.

>> No.1256708

>>1231313
Did they really have been playing VRchat together? i know moona played vrchat with her member before and someone from other thread mention about pekora and moona vrchat? it is it just shitpost?

>> No.1256717

>>1256671
This ain't true because Kiara was mostly bitching about her vids not showing on ayone's sub box which is true because I am subscribed to her. She only showed up again after vids for the past 2 months were removed so YT obviously detected that the issue was in those vids. Whatever the reason is though I don't know. Maybe troll false flags

>> No.1256730

>>1256708
it's real

>> No.1256773

>>1256717
I can tell it isn't true, I'm just hoping that anon isn't actually retarded enough to believe it lol.

>> No.1256783

>>1242100
>Spoiler

There's Enma (handles Ina, Ame, and Gura; the one most anons talk about), Jenma (manages Kiara), and a third manager who's in charge of Mori.

>> No.1256838

>>1242119
>>1256627
>>1242250
>>1253543
>>1253714
You guys know that Kiara's "idol meeting room" is her bathroom, and that Mori's "scythe swinging lessons" are english classes. So when they say Enma/Jenma is their "manager" why do you believe it ? It makes no sense, no company has a manager for every couple of individual contributors. Enma and Jenma are here to keep them in check during streams and help them with menial tasks, but they're not the one making the actual decision. I imagine HoloEN's actual manager is overseeing multiple gens/branches. Enma/Jenma are used as interface between that guy and HoloEN because he probably doesn't speak english.

>> No.1256923

>>1256677
>she collabs with indies and even with an ex-indo Idol.
Same as Moona. Moona collabs a LOT on other indies channels and was a local Indo idol.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Zr8H4B3MYM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUdUv1Y4SqM

>>1256838
How do you know it's a higher up's call? They could be delegating those types of decisions to the low level mane-chans.

>> No.1257066

>>1256923
>How do you know it's a higher up's call? They could be delegating those types of decisions to the low level mane-chans.

Not really. Image Directives and PR are who makes the decisions here. Managers are simply the enforcers of those orders from the top-down. If you really want to blame anyone then it will be the director Tatsuo

https://cover-corp.com/about

He handles all the profit making business decisions and since this is a small company of atleast 50 employees, he clearly has direct influence

>> No.1257125

>>1256923
>How do you know it's a higher up's call?
Because those are pretty big decisions that are affecting Cover's or the streamer's brand, which they are trying to control to a certain extent. You'd need a lot on knowledge on the company's mission statement, culture and business goals. Like when Kiara was told that it was "too early" for her to release an original song. To know that, you need coordination between branches for timing and if you can allocate the resources needed. I don't expect Jenma to be able to make such a decision.
Of course Enma/Jenma have some wiggle room and on some stuff are probably only given general directions. Like "don't let the streamer say yabai stuff". Which is why you often hear streamers say "uuuh I'm not sure if I can say this ahah" and then having to check with Enma/Jenma, but I doubt they really know any better.

>> No.1257204

>>1257125
And people are just plane retards. If you just do a little digging you will see everyone that is directly involved. You can see them on Linkedin.
A-chan who was just graduated out of H.S. became a manager. Do you think she's tasked with big decisions like director level decisions just like that? She probably has list of dos/donts that she got from her boss. The only thing that the manager can do is to appeal in behalf of their Idol. This is why we have dumb managers handling Lamy and Botan.

>> No.1257231

>>1257066
>at least 50 employees
on wantedly they're listed as having 111 members

>> No.1257359

>>1257204
You sure you mean Linkedin ? Cover CORPORATION has only 4 people and you can't even see their profile. Japanese people don't use Linkedin

>> No.1257652

>>1250821
This. Matsuri just craves validation in any way possible.

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Ah Kiara, hopefully I'm not disturbing you too badly. Yes, I just wanted to share a glass of wine with you now that the big collab is over. Did you have fun playing Fire Emblem? At least in that game you have some chance of hooking up with someone. I heard you also addressed the pointless drama around the translation of 'pff' that occurred? I didn't manage to catch it live on air as I was collabing with Pekora-senpai as you might know. Don't worry though, I'll catch the VOD later just like you will probably do with our stream too? Pff, don't mind me I only jest. By the way, did you hear that we might be offcollabing with Pekora-senpai at some point? We planned on visiting Akihabara when I visit Japan. An eccentric hub of Japanese otaku culture for sure. I take she offered you an offcollab as well? She didn't? How peculiar...
Well, I see that you are quite the busy bird so I won't take more of your precious time. After all, you'll be soon returning to Austria so you need to make the last few weeks count. Oh, and I send a little something to you in Discord, be to sure to look at it. It might've been posted already on Reddit, but I thought you might want the high quality version. Don't stay up too long today, wouldn't want to have your eyes all red in the morning. Matanee~

>> No.1258071

>>1253747
is Kiara really shadowbanned? I'm not a sub but I still get the streams and vods on my recommendations.

Anyway Kiara is acting a bit harsh with her viewers on Twitter, people were suggesting how to avoid shadowbanning and she replied with a literal copypaste to almost everyone who dares telling her what it could be. Mel and Choco were shadowbanned for months but I don't remember them being like this on Twitter, Mel even find the BANpire jokes funny.

>> No.1258138

>>1258071
She just got unshadow banned around 12 hours ago.

>> No.1258158

>>1257728
This is a good post on /vt/.

>> No.1258364

>>1258071
I'm not following her. How did she reply?

>> No.1258424

>>1258071
You should provide some sources for your second paragraph.

>> No.1258446

>>1228210
This is just sad

>> No.1258610

>>1258364
I went to check again because I just saw it on my timeline and it's not THAT big of a deal but you can see her viewers were suggesting things that could prevent her from shadowbanning her because they wanted to help. Most of them are unaware of how YT can be a bitch with shadowbanning so they told her to try swear less or not use lewd thumbnails. Basically they said this and Kiara replied with a "That's not the issue" and another got a "Again, not the issue", she should had at least explain to her viewers that she knew the reason lol

You can see Kiara was really pissed about it. I'm glad to hear that she's unbanned tho, YT was shadowbanning Mel for like an entire month and then they did again on September or October.

>> No.1258620

>>1258610
She talked about the issue on stream. Twitter KFP being retarded again.
It was a securities issue.

>> No.1258631

>>1233233
Shes stated a hundred times she's super anti-social and doesn't like working with others but Hololive, learning english, and Moona especially have been helping her socialize more.

>> No.1258638

Moonatards really hating the goddess Kiara.
go masturbate to your chink jihadist oshi

>> No.1258674

>>1257728
what are you doing here go back to /jp/

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>>1258638
gladly

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>>1258674
No

>> No.1258781

>>1258620
she did? oh well, then Twitter being retarded as always

Kiara has a lot of retards on Twitter, like that guy who post a Spongebob pic edited with vagina. Idk how that's the most liked post on that tweet

>> No.1258816

>>1256627
There are at minimum 3 EN managers:
* Enma is at the very minimum Ame and Ina's manager
* Jenma is Kiara's
* Calli has her own unnamed manager
The only question left is who's Gura's manager, most think it's Enma but we have no confirmation

>> No.1258934

>>1258638
i'd be right happy to

>> No.1259163

>>1258816
She's in Central time isn't she? Wouldn't be surprised if she had her own just so there's one in her timezone.

>> No.1267412

Why indog like this

>> No.1267516

>>1228210
Better luck next time moonafag Indogs!

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