/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

ccv + sc
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://overseas.live-ranking.com/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/total-ranking/youtube
>https://www.dousetu.com/daily_ranking/
>http://v-ana.com/
>https://playboard.co/en/

Hololive
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://twitter.com/holo_data
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://mipacd.github.io/chat-stats/excl-chat.html
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html

Nijisanji
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings

Susan has no mercy.

>>12522758
Fucking kek. This more or less corroborates my theory of
>multiple channels being subscribed at the same time by the same set of people

Numbers.
Fish went to superchat reading and half of her audience went to the collab.

>>12522758
First half is very similar to this.

>>12522896
For fuck sake, who the fuck is that ES chuuba breaking rules 1 and 2?

>>12522758
Christ Susan, look at their numbers!
>>12522838
Makes sense to me, pretty annoying.

>>12522325
>She'll be on Nun Bora level soon!
Bora wishes.

Here are the "neighbourhood" of Selen median of peaks for the month of October 2021

>2934 :: Roboco-san (hololive jp0)
>2878 :: Mashiro (nijisanji jp)
>2864 :: Ex Albio (nijisanji jp)
>2810 :: Yozora Mel (hololive jp1)
>2698 :: Amamiya Kokoro (nijisanji jp)
>2682 :: Selen Tatsuki (nijisanji en)
>2601 :: Yuzuki Choco (hololive jp2)
>2573 :: Suo Sango (nijisanji jp)
>2563 :: Bora Nun (nijisanji kr)
>2534 :: Kaida Haru (nijisanji jp)
>2519 :: Takamiya Rion (nijisanji jp)

If this doesn't make you respect and admire Selen numbers a little bit nothing would ever do it.
Sadly, as I said, it sadly didn't transfer to the branch, she'll be eating stake and throwing some bones for the peasants under the table to suck

>>12522896
Based Polka mogging everyone.

Been a while since I've seen this board get so fast.
Less than an hour gets a thread killed.

>>12523061
The "slow and steady" schizo is spamming the catalog with threads on the eceleb collab

>>12523061
>>12523133

>>12523061
Bait threads are getting spammed a lot today, probably some discord niggers. It's about that big twitch collab now, and that video with the Gura thumbnail also had 5 threads earlier today.

>>12523038
>ask for respect for only 100 difference
you wish

>>12523231
niji intern kun is mad

>>12523231
Good thing this board only has a janny for 4 hours a day.
I’ve seen pony and porn threads up for hours before.

>>12522896
5k+ for a NijiEN collab is not bad actually.
Good thing Elira and Pomu aren't streaming or else the overlap might have hurt it.

>>12523228
>>12523231
It's embarrassing how Nijifags are too desperate to shit on Holos.
I, for one, am happy that Hololive won't be a part of this.

So when will it be? Will we able to track their numbers?

>>12523483
Come on, at very least give Selen some credit, she has the highest median for all foreign branches for Nijisanji.
Here is the top 15 median peak CCV for Nijisanji foreign branches

>2682 :: Selen Tatsuki (en)
>2563 :: Bora Nun (kr)
>1721 :: Elira Pendora (en)
>1710 :: Pomu Rainpuff (en)
>1411 :: Millie Parfait (en)
>1324 :: Rosemi Lovelock (en)
>1314 :: Finana Ryugu (en)
>1286 :: Petra Gurin (en)
>981 :: Nina Kosaka (en)
>979 :: Enna Alouette (en)
>850 :: Reimu Endou (en)
>715 :: Roha Lee (kr)
>566 :: Hana Macchia (id)
>393 :: Ban Hada (kr)
>386 :: Ray Akira (kr)

10k got for Mumei. Today is a decent day for EN (at least three 10k streams).

is there a 2021 vers of this?

>>12523996
There is this
>pic related
should be the same data (median, mean, number of streams)

What happened? 200k+ to 80k

>>12523822
It's already almost over.
Elira and Pomu weren't streaming it.
Nyanners: 9.7k peak
Ironmouse: 6k peak

>>12523857
>only 10k for 1 POV collab
It's still early so it might spike later, but Mumei's fanbase probably overlaps with Bae's a lot so not much of a buff.
Feels like she could've gotten 10k pretty easily today anyways with Mori Doom as the only overlap.
A Way Out used to be a 20k+ single POV collab stream.

>>12524215
It just wasn't the same after the yab.

>>12524338
Which Yab?

>>12524215
Not minecraft, smaller numbers. Simple as.
>>12524338
200k is past 15? 30? streams anyways, so that cheating yab doesn't matter in this context.

>>12524378
It's really easy to google "Dream scandal", anon.
That's what 99% of people who aren't into Dream SMP know him for.

>>12524244
So CCV-wise, is it a phenomenal success like the nijifags claim?

Vshojo vs IRL streamers

>>12524244
>Nyanners: 9.7k peak
>Ironmouse: 6k peak
So much for a massive collab. Who the fuck even arranged this

>>12524557
>speedrun drama
That field was pretty much taken over by trannies (the regular "dick chopping" mentally ill kind, not the figurative insulting moniker thrown around), not even worth reading whatever happened

>>12524244
Twitch culture is so fucking weird. They could have 3 collabing in one channel and the ccv will be the same.

>>12524674
ironmouse did
if you want numbers for the whole collab there are guys like sykkuno, ludwig and valkyrae streaming it to 20k+ each

>>12524674
It was a debuff more than anything for the vtubers.

>>12524663
only on the jp side can compete with IRL streamers.

>>12524739
Arent those their usual ccv?

>>12522624
>Dorohedoro
Based

>>12524663
Why are there no NijiEN PoVs? Are their managers retarded?

>>12524797
theres no boost from collabing with them.

>Kuzuha already 1.1M
What the fuck is going on with him and what should the other Nijisanji livers do to recreate this kind of growth?

>>12524797
idk but there's like 100k+ people watching the collab, that makes it pretty big for something ironmouse threw together in a day or two

>>12524977
>and what should the other Nijisanji livers do to recreate this kind of growth
Stream every day (or close), with the same type of content which either is or becomes popular in Japan, and entertain the audience for the whole time without ifs, buts, busy schedule , IRL troubles or the likes.

>>12523038
>sub 3k
>respect
LOL!!! Where do you think you are Nijikek? We don't "respect" midgets.

>>12524895
Probably afraid it would leech viewers from their L4D collab.

That being said, someone explain Ironmouse's numbers to me. The collab actually somehow made Ironmouse's viewer count drop. Obviously the peak at the end there is a Nyanners raid but what the fuck is going on here otherwise?

>>12524977
>Highest CCV in Nijisanji
>First Niji to get 1M subs
>First Male Vtuber to get 1M Subs
>Him (a vampire) releasing a Vampire Cover on Holloween could've attracted attention

he is basically the Gura of Niji.
wanting others to replicate his success is like asking Ame or Subaru to get on Gura's speed.

>>12525131
She shares an audience with nyanners

>>12525186
Nyanners was playing Minecraft during the first few games though

>>12525131
ironmouse is on squad mode too idk how this works tho if both stream views count as one or two
https://www.twitch.tv/ironmouse/squad

>>12525131
>Probably afraid it would leech viewers from their L4D collab.
If that's the case, they're basically sacrificing long-term growth for a very short-term gain.

>>12525019
>100k+
Cant add Twitch viewers like that since they can multi-view and all will count to the numbers, unlike YT which seems to only count active tabs

Just take a quick look at the number for the big collab, they are getting around 128,000 at the moment across all streams (some members aren't streaming)
Sorry Holobronies, it looks like VShojo is taking the EN win today. Have fun with your 10k

Boring bait. I want something better!

>12525388
>using total
kek
>EN win
At least your insecure faggot ass knows that it will likely not beat JP

mixing Vshojo and NijiEN as a bait sure is a new one.

>>12525388
there's also valkyrae on youtube with 22k

>>12525388
Wut? The biggest collab in the western hemisphre can't boost the biggest twitch vtuber into beating an humble own playing some beaten game with her friend?

>>12525496
Vshojo is honorary Niji...?

>>12525135
He is not even in the same category as Gura. Gura's growth is like 5 times bigger.

>>12525364
>muting the stream still counts as a view
>legal viewbot by autoplay embed stream
>multistream e.g squad stream mode
>raids
>paid boost streams
>frontpage viewbot
cant really numberfag twitch

>>12525388
>A collection of twitch's biggest streamers along with some of twitch's biggest vtubers
>128k
Oh my sweet summer child. Just wait until you see the Hololive exclusive Sports Festival.................128k you say.........pfft

>>12525637
Imagine a squad stream mode during Hololive events on Youtube.

>>12525659
Eh. No Gura POV is a pretty big numbers nerf though, -20k or more off of the total just from that.

>>12525511
That makes it around 150 - 152k. Will the Sport Festival total CCVs even be able to beat it? I'm not feeling so good...

>>12525659
Just imagine if Hololive put the Sport Festival for Niji too. Easy 300k event.
They don't need it but it would be fucking big.

>>12525556
What i mean is wanting other nijis to grow as fast as Kuzuha is like wishing Kiara or Towa to grow as fast as Gura.

>>12525659
>>12525388
When HoloEN got 103k on the Among Us collab i wonder why Nijis are quick to disregard the achievement and yet they're so quick to praise this and use it to shit on holos.

>Twitch vs YouTube again
>n-no it's just falseflagging

>>12525786
No Gura and Marine it seems.

>>12525788
Their Practice Run alone (lots of members aren't there) got 120k It's sure to beat 150-160k

>>12525820
I love Hololive and wish the best for them but getting 300k is a bit too much.
200k+ is possible tho

>>12525659
>>12525788
That guy didn't take Valkyrae's numbers into account. 150k is going to be hard to beat. How many viewers did Holo's last year Sport Festival get anyway?
And 150k for what was planned by VShojo and Niji in less than 2 days is impressive nonetheless. How much did HoloEN's Halloween (which was in production for weeks) get anyway?

>>12525388
You know that Kronii is doing an unarchived karaoke today, right?

>>12524663
update version

>>12525907
I said with some Nijisanji's talent as guest, not even needing the boys there. There's a real possibility about doing 300k with that.

>>12525852
Yea, but at least Marine's viewers usually spread out to other chubbas like Pekora and whatnot, Gura's got a large chunk that just simply won't show up, more than any other EN, if its not on her channel either because they're not subbed to any other holos, or they're only seeing her off of recommends.
Ah well, it is what it is, seems like all of the ENs didn't want the pressure of being the main POV from what Fauna was saying, and only IRyS and Bae stepped up for their respective teams.

>>12524663
Missing Dream

>>12525933
222k (260k if you add Azki and Gura)

>>12525135
>he is basically the Gura of Niji
You wish kuzukek

>>12525997
Nijis being there would be a debuff. Nobody wants to watch that trash.

>>12525821
Hololive (especially Hololive EN) mainly collab among themselves so those collabs don't really help growing the VTuber scene or their own fanbase. At most, their collabs only helped keeping their fans around or pulling bored fans back.
On the other hand, VShojo and Niji collab with non-VTubers and broaden their networks. As a result, their collab helps both themselves and the scene in general grow. Of course this is more praiseworthy. Isolationism is terrible in this day and age.

Hololive Sports Festival 2021 https://youtu.be/wks67WHSGDw

Holy shit now it's holoEN vs whole EN streamer
How bad was niji yesterday?

>>12526255
Almost a top 10 sweep for Hololive.

seriously having no POV in that big squid event is so stupid. It's a good opportunity to get new eyes even if they have to face cringe AYAYA chat.

>>12526255
no Kuzuha and only two in the 10k ranking

>>12526095
same pov except Subaru instead of Haachama. Idk if its marines pov or fubukis pov.

>>12526168
>Isolationism
But it works.
And Niji didn't grow shit as they don't even have streams up. I hope people are bored enough to manually search for who was on the stream and give them a try

>>12525135
His success is not the luckbomb and perfect timing of Gura, at all. It's actually pretty corporate, aside from the luck of ARK.

>>12526168
>HoloEN is collabing with small time vsingers like Boogey Voxx to create a couple great songs
>NijiEN is collabing with absolute cancer twitch streamers
Yeah, I have a lot more respect for what Hololive is doing for the vtuber community.

>>12526255
Uh, It was a pretty solid trouncing.
>>12507238
*Tally from last thread

* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN *

Here it goes
>36,339: Pekora (Hololive)
>24,261: Korone (Hololive)
>24,117: Miko (Hololive)
>22,977: Flare (Hololive)
>21,898: Miko (Hololive)
>16,820: Shibuya Hal (merise)
>16,679: Botan (Hololive)
>16,638: Fuwa (Nijisanji)
>15,715: Nene (Hololive)
>13,843: Rushia (Hololive)
>13,477: Shibuya Hal (merise)
>12,990: Ienaga Mugi (Nijisanji)
>11,615: Sora (Hololive)
>11,372: Okayu (Hololive)
>10,847: Gatchaman (indie)

>>12526330
Copium

>>12523228
*sigh* this is why Niji get shit on in this thread
I swear, you give them an inch ...

>>12526095
This was before the Youtube Cut right?
It will be interesting to compare the numbers
Buffs
>HoloEN first time to participate
Debuffs
>Gura won't be streaming her POV so chumbuds might only watch clips

>>12526330
Could also say that Hololivers are actively hiring their fans for projects as well.

>>12526456
Not sure is a buff or debuff, Gura not streaming on her channel for a week.

>>12526456
There is no way Pekora will get only 55k this year.

>>12526536
Yeah and don't forget Holo's #2 Marine won't be attending.

>>12526306
probably don't have permission

>>12526210
whoever made that thumbnail knows what they're doing. Suisei's holding an axe, Gura's holding a trident, Korone's holding a bone, Calli is holding a skull, Ame is holding a magnifying glass, Subaru has a duck on her head, Noel is holding milk, Kronii is giving a flower to Mumei, Fubuki has a fox on her head, Fauna is holding a golden apple, Pekora is holding TNT, Watame has a sheep on her shoulder.

>>12526567
having no marine POV will probably funnel marine viewers to Pekora because 3rd gen.

>>12526567
I expect Miko + Pekora POV alone to get 150k combined

>>12525388
About 50% more HoloEN playing Among US
I was expecting more

>>12526597
>going to practice today
>not attending
Which is it?

Wait so what is the new POV's for the sportfest

>>12526604
The drawings were made by the same dude who did last year's thumbnail. The MC avatars were made by https://twitter.com/ando03280328 so he is the one to praise, even if I wanted the whole company like last year.

>>12526714
She's gonna have her 2nd flu shot today. It depends whether or not she will be fine tomorrow

>>12526747
Miko Pekora FBK Subaru for the JP teams, I think Moona for Red C, can't recall White C, but I thought it was Gura.

>>12526714
To be clear, she's getting the JAB, so she isn't 100% sure she's going to be okay the day of the sportsfes. If her fever takes longer to manifest she might be okay, but if she gets hit hard and fast, she won't be attending.

>>12526823
It's Bae and IRyS.

>>12526823
Forgot Aqua on the JP side.

>>12526823
Pekora, FBK, Subaru, Aqua, Irys, Bae. I hope Bae give the POV to someone else. Her ISP is acting up.

>>12526747
For Red team (POVs)
Pekora
Fubuki
IRyS

For White team (POVs)
Subaru
Aqua?(Not confirmed yet but probably)
Baelz

>>12526747
Miko
Mio(?)
Pekora
Fubuki
IRyS
Subaru
Aqua
Baelz
A-chan(?)

>>12526823
Irys is the main camera for team c red as moona have something else to do irl. Bae is the main camera for team c white. Team b white is probably aqua.

Bros let's not set our expectations too high so we might not get too disappointed if they fail. Times have changed.
I still expect them to have a 160-200k peak total. I really hope they break 200k though.

Gura not streaming her POV and Marine not attending might affect them.
i can already see the nijifags grudgeposting and coping.

>>12526912
A-chan will probably just share her pov with Miko like before. HoloMain channel doesn't host these events. They give the spotlight to the actual people that worked for it

>>12526912
It's just
Miko
Pekora (Red Team A)
Fubuki (Red Team B)
IRyS (Red Team C)
Subaru (White Team A)
Aqua (White Team B)
Bae (White Team C)

>>12526964
You mean they don't host it on the main channel which has superchats and memberships enabled?!

>>12526947
Anon, 160k is their regulars numbers streaming at the same time playing different games during primetime with maybe 1 group like SubaChocoLunaTan playing together. This is without Marine or Gura.

>>12526964
>HoloMain channel doesn't host these events. They give the spotlight to the actual people that worked for it
Not sure if this is intentioned or not, but I feel like it's a jab at Niji on how they organize theirs lol

>>12526964
A-chan won't be attending this year's sportsfes, since she has another plan that day

>>12527079
Yeah with me

>>12527079
Goddamnit, I guess I'm not watching.

Okay, to bring the thread back to taking about actual numbers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-u-Oi83VrQ

Unarchive kara, more than 4k waiting room
Can she break 15k?

Don't forget anons, the sportsfes is like 7 hours long.

>>12526838
wtf vaccine are they taking? I had Pfizer/BioNTech and it was just a sore arm for a day or two.

>>12527161
Why? she's not even the focus last year.

>>12527214
I think over 20k

>>12526964
>They give the spotlight to the actual people that worked for it
Yes, Cover doesn't lift a finger to help unlike Nijisanji where the livers have explicitly praised management for assisting in making their vision come true every step of the way.

>>12527214
15-20k. It's unarchived afterall. She's pretty decent. Nobody is really streaming anything exciting besides Mumei and Bae

>>12527214
I hope she sing Korean songs.

>>12527294
Anon. You clearly don't watch streams. In every fuck-up that these EN girls do, you have a manager in the way side fixing it for them. Ame already said the VR halloween event was possible because she had her manager around. JP Holos like Suisei have them pushing for new shit. Polka has her own staff. STFU.

>>12527294
I'm betting that Chihiro didn't get a single cent from any SCs that was sent to the main channel.

>>12527248
It varies, actually. I had Pfizer too, and while I didn't feel sick, I was in a pretty sleepy state throughout the next day day (not groggy in the slightest, though). I knew at least two of my colleagues developed slight fever, too. Yet my parents (70 and 62 yo respectively) who took the shot in the same day with us were totally fine

>>12527294
I bet you don't know who set up the server and program the command blocks for the event.

>>12527248
People react to the vaccines differently. Believe it or not, if you're unlucky enough, you could die from getting vaccinated. That's why they're supposed to ask you a bunch of questions; to determine whether to vaccinate you or not and how big of a dose.

>>12527400
What do you expect from threadreaders.
The managers are more like glorified personal assistants whose jobs are to make things the talents want happen.

>>12527400
>にじさんじ
>舞元「運営スタッフさんは自分が絵に描いた事を実現してくれる。二人三脚で(甲子園)企画した。しかもKONAMI様からのサポートもあって」
>舞元「企画するにあたって運営スタッフさんがこれでもかってサポートしてくれるそれが無かったらにじさんじ甲子園は成功してない」
>加賀美「自分たちが現場でノリで考えた案を出来ます!って実現してくれたりもっと○○したら面白いんじゃないですか?と提案してくれたり、ほんと3D周りのスタッフさんとんでもないですよ」
>加賀美「だから自分も絶対3D成功させようって気になる」

>ホロライブ
>マリン「運営は連絡しても返してこない。何度も連絡して進捗聞かないと企画が動かない」
>マリン「あっちから○○しましょう!みたいな提案は一切無い。全部自分たちで考えて自分たちで動かないといけない」
>マリン「外部の3D班や演出家や編集班を自腹で雇ってなんとかライブやってる」
>マリン「うわ運営録画流すだけで事故ってるよ・・・」

>>12527248
Moderna.

>>12527547
>thinking this serves as any form of argument whatsoever

>>12527470
>>12527512
they need to eat more leaf food
>>12527547
>matome

>>12527547
Why don't you put the fresh one, you know like what Suisei and Polka said about the management.

>>12527547

>>12527547
>I'll help you with shit but let me open up a stream to collect SCs and Membersheeps okay?
What a fucking kek
Marine had people helping her out during her 3D event especially when filming that telenovela.

>>12527079
She's getting railed by Omega in front of Yagoo.

>>12526168
Hololive gets their new viewers from the algorithm. They don't play the traditional way where you could only get new viewers from collabing with other people, they're playing their own game. It's the reason why other YT vtubers are having a bad time streaming on YT. Their streams are going to get recommended.

Mumei/Bae Collab still ongoing
Mori (Doom) still ongoing

Can my wife break 20k i wonder?

>>12527849
Mumei and Bae might stop to be on the chat if more EN members shill it, it could go to 20k. I expect 14k.

>>12527849
>Can my wife
I don't remember making this post but can she?

>>12527773
I think a part of that also comes from collabs but they are just more subtle. Like that wrestler with Subaru. Okayu with that comedian, Suisei with that musician, Pekora with her big jrpg numbers, Kanata pining about her gachi and so on so forth, It's hard to ignore them when they suddenly appear in different niches because they go viral

>>12527547

>>12526330
your point being?
NijiEN collabs with 2view indies all the time, way more than hololive

>>12527214
15-20k is a huge underestimation considering the numbers even Mori and Mumei get for unarchived karaoke. She'll hit 25k with very little issue.

>>12527032
>Bae (White Team C)
When did they talk about this?

>>12527947
Hololive going viral through non-streaming avenues.
Reminds me of when Sugita talked about how big of a fan of Pekora he is and he kept recommending watching her streams to his VA colleagues.

>>12527992
It means HoloEN doesn't have any reason to collab with 2view because they are already big but some do so anyways. NijiEN does it because they are so small and have no clout. But this whole collabs with outsiders is really only true for Ina and Mori. Ame and Gura only really collabed with their Mamas and Anya. I agree with hiring from your pool of fan artists though. I think it creates a lot of motivation.

>>12528103
Good thing he prefers Nijisanji now.

>>12526456
Pretty sure it was after.

>>12527248
The effect is varies from person to person anon
I got Astra Zenneca and that shit knocked me out for like 2 days
Consider Marine's a hag ...

>>12528188
Is Sugita part of Trash Taste now?!

>>12528188
Source or it didn't happen.

>>12528103
Hololive goes viral from the most random things.

Like that Lightning Mcqueen Kingdom Hearts animation that has the fortunate timing to coincide with Smash revealing Sora from Kingdom Hearts

Gura alone has 3 viral videos in the past 2 months. And that's only on the EN side. I have no idea if she's going viral in KR or JP.

https://youtube.com/shorts/L-RJQUZJdtA
How's the new shorts channel working out BTW?

>>12528188
True!! Everybody prefers Nijisanji now!! That is why their numbers are so much bigger than Hololive's.

>>12528282
She's a cake but she's just afraid to really dissuade people from believing the joke. It has been acknowledge before that she goes along with the jokes for her fans. Much like Rushia with the Pettan although Rushia really is Pettan.

>>12527913
Only Kronii makes an effort to prevent overlaps, these two won't stop their stream.
I predict she'll peak at 16k or 18k
>>12528010
Mori's Jump King

>>12528378
If it isn't featured in LIMC, it's not viral
Subaru had Dancing Duck
Korone had Eekum Bokum
Gura is but a speck in the vtuber industry. Despite being one of the most popular Vtubers, she has yet to penetrate the mainstream the same way Subaru or Korone has

>>12528428
Is Rushia just medium sized? I remember her talking about her mom being pretty confused at the pettan jokes.
>>12528378
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSzuyvJo3ls
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Y6yk1IprJA
Subaru goes viral with the weirdest things

>>12528552
>ankha dance but cat shark

>>12527947
This is why Suisei/Calli collab with outsider making music matters
I'm still waiting for that Eminem/Snoop track Calli, please make it happen

>>12528691
Calli/Gorillaz is much more likely.

>>12528610
Subaru is really good at baiting EOP clippers with her reaction stuff. EOP ccv's might not be stable but she could turn herself into a first stringer through those content.

>>12528348
Watch some streams holobrony, or if you can only understand clips you can simply search for Sugita Nijisanji clips in Youtube.

>>12528552
no one can beat this. This made them known in the western world.

>unity

>>12527849
17k now, my wife can do it!!

>>12529103
Mine shows 18.6k

>>12529103
But she was going to move out to live with me. It's why she's taking a break. She's my wife bro sorry.

BTW, its already 19.5k

20k!

is 25 / 30k too farfetched ?

Kronii 20k already

>>12528943
I'll consider this.
Coco, Subaru and Korone have penetrated the actual mainstream and can be considered viral
Gura's "memes" are virtually unknown outside the Vtuber community.

20k got. Nice one clock

>>12528188
https://twitter.com/sugitaLOV/status/1455026959587500037?t=Gan9fLNNUL92_OkNhwI_Nw&s=19
https://twitter.com/sugitaLOV/status/1453346862145044485?t=Xdl7grZtqZwT1XtGD0tjWg&s=19

>>12529290
If Mumei/Bae Collab ends early then 25k is possible.

Mori ended her stream

>>12528103
He did the same with L*l*

>>12529320
kek, going as far as to use pekora's verbal tic.

>>12529320
>using peko is proof of anything
I bet you were dumb enough to believe that Meiro ripped off Roa's verbal tic too.

Pathetic, EN can't even get that numbers usually unless they're baiting with >unarchived utawaku

>>12528188
>Sugita prefers Nijisanji now
Nijicope list anon!! Time to add another one to the list.

>>12529530
NijiEN can't even get above 10k with their unarchived karaokes.

I don't think EN should sing JP songs. They don't bring numbers.

>>12529320
this guy doesnt follow any holo/niji streamers lmao he follows sumomo and siro.

>>12529707
Try 3k

>>12529741
wait, I thought that was the yakuza guy who likes Siro.

>>12529707
>>12529530
Not Counting Debuts, did NijiEN girls even had 8k by themselves

>>12529799
Selen will, just you wait!

>>12529799
By themselves you mean no collabs? Pomu got 10-12k with her God Knows Marathon iirc or something

>>12529909
Oh cool. That counts then. NijiEN wins this time.

>>12529909
She did not. It was 4k-5k.

>>12529988
>>12529971
I take it back. Why do Nijiniggers have to lie to me?

>>12529909

>>12529971
>>12529909
>>12529988
Really? Pretty sure I haven't seen any NijiEN in the 10k+ Charts except their Debut.

>>12530056
5k is the new 10k huh

How many of you guys here jerk to nijicope list after cooming to numbers?

>>12530232
Everyone, Pekora included.

>>12530232
The numbers thread is basically the "laugh at nijikeks and their ever expanding list of copes" nowadays

>>12530232
That and the Kuzuha Vampire 1 million views tracking post. Both of them make me coom hard.

>>12530232
At least we don't cry ourselves to sleep every time Niji loses to avoid copium overdose.

VShoujo are pretty much #1 for EN vtubers since there OfflineTV friends right? Don't think Holo or Niji can compete with that.

>>12529909
Damn dude why do you have to lie?
Thank God we have multiple sites capable of archiving numbers or else Nijifags will claim Pomu mogs Gura.

>>12527849
24k now. Just imagine all the membership money.

I mean...
>>12524140
This really tells you all you need to know about the current state of v-tubing between Niji and Hololive. Numbers are numbers, and if I was an ad guy, I'd be looking at Kuzuha and then Hololive for big stuff. The rest of Niji is good if you have something that fits a niche, but for pure reach, the numbers do not lie.

>>12526168
All I'm saying is Hololive spawned NijiEN so any of NijiEN's accomplishments is to Holo's credit.

Millie and Reimu gets 2.5k on their karaokes. Kronii gets 10x the size of that.

25k got.

>>12530650
If I were a Japanese ad guy I'd look at their Japanese numbers and in that case I'd look at Nijisanji a lot more before looking at hololive because why waste money on advertising to people who aren't even in Japan and can't buy my Japanese products?

>>12530232
I told myself I was going to succeed in No Nut November this year. However as soon as I saw the NijiCOPE list posted I immediately creamed my pants without even touching myself. The NijiCOPE list caused me to lose No Nut November.

>>12526602
What the fuck is wrong with Niji's management? Are all their talents bunch of pussies that they couldn't demand for such a basic thing or just a matter of being restricted by a draconian contract like that?

>>12530812
Because even if you remove the EN branch, HoloJP still tops the chart?

>But only EOPs watch Holo
Cope. HoloJP chat is primarily Japanese.

>>12530950
EOPs don't chat in JP streams. Pekora has a mostly Japanese chat but 60% EOP viewers.

>barely 25k
That's awful. HoloEN's decline is severe.

>>12531009

Source: Trust me bro

>12531009
>60% EOP
welcome to the "Pekkers EOP viewership based on a fucking YouTube poll" time loop

>>12531009
You mean a twitter poll? Only a few have relapsed their numbers, we know Subaru has 94% Japanese viewers.

>12531025
Not as awful as Nijifags Karaoke lmao.

>>12531009
>source:my ass
Pekora never discloses her YT stats.

>>12531080
Probs the very skewed 'poll' that Pekora had that's clearly not channel metrics. The truth is we will NEVER see channel metrics on screen ever again after the Taiwan yab.

>>12531131
NijiEN is a fucking failure. 25k is a failure for a HoloEN unarchived karaoke.

Pekora has had a solid hold on the #1 spot for over a year now and that doesn't seem like it's changing. What's her secret?

>>12531116
That fag must be a clipwatcher and thinks that poll is a real stat. Even Pekora was surprised with the result because it must be very different than her YT stats

>>12530812
Even with EOPs, JPs still takes a large portion. 50% JOPs out of 10k stream is still 5k, more than most nijis can make and Hololive has more that 10 people that could get those numbers regularly.

>>12531235
By being entertaining and blessed with great comedic timing

>>12531118
Youtube Japan has the numbers and they promote Nijisanji a lot more than hololive because, surprise, Nijisanji is actually more relevant in Japan.

>>12530812
Anon. Most of Holo spons are Japanese. They announce a partnership almost every other week now. Even global products like Red Bull, Xbox and that new game for Guardians.of the Galaxy are using Holo to attract Japanese consumers

>>12530812
YWNBJ

>>12531009
Lol so you're telling me those JRPG that pekora play with 30k+ has 60% eop? We are back with that youtube poll timeloop again.

>YoutubeJP promotion now
roru roru

>Youtube Japan
Oh, this again

NIJICOPE LIST
>building a sub-culture
>slow and steady growth
>merch sales
>no longer showing off their achievements on their page because they have shown more humility
>percentages
>tournaments don't count
>fortune telling
>volume
>averages
>total CCV during primetime
>trailers are ads
>Google trends
>Holo EN was a desperate gambit
>Holo's forcibly acquired audience vs Niji's natural growth
>stop picking on midgets! fight someone your own size!
>pit Vshojo against HoloEN when you're losing
>pit HoloEN against HoloJP when you're losing
>pit former Holo against HoloJP when you're losing
>Holobubble is bursting
>foreign buff/global audience bad, muh local Nips good
>YouTube Japan trends
>Apex will only get more popular from now on!
>flexible creative freedom
>Holo's restrictive management will cause them to eventually graduate
>Cover uses bots
>Hal is honorary Niji
>Kson is honorary Niji
>Ui is honorary Niji
>Most vtubers are Nijisanji like and Nijisanji is part of greater vtuber community
>Nijisanji fans are more passionate about their livers and will leave dislikes to show their engagement
>Sponsorships are retarded
>Hololive's merch and sponsorship bad because companies underestimated them which means that they don't care about the cheap collab
>Koshien is not an event
>Nijisanji is solidifying their other markets while keeping their strong home market
>Pre-recorded lives are technically premiers and shouldn't count
>Cover is just lucky to have clippers and algorithm on their side
>Hololive invented unicorns

>>12531333
This is the new cope after google trends.

>>12531286
A full hololive collab tops out at around 100k, with at least half of that being non-Japanese viewers, while a full Nijisanji collab peaks at 200k all Japanese. It's not even a contest.

>>12531399
Pls add Sugita loves niji

>>12531333
Okay, that's cool. Hololive is still getting lots of sponsors despite that. Maybe the adertizers have numbers you don't.

Even if HoloJP had 60% EOP viewers then they'd still be beating Nijisanji's average median in japanese viewers since HoloJP gets 120k and NijiJP gets about 4k.

>>12531235
Talent in entertainment
Consistency
Hard work
Smart numberfagging
Pekora is an absolute beast that's only held back by one thing, and that's poor stream stamina relative to the other top dogs. She doesn't do super-long streams like Kuzuha can.

>>12531235
She's Entertaining plus she consistently stream and her chat interaction is top notch.

>>12531431
100k is the new 400k. I see.

>>12531431
Holo collab tops at 491k faggot

>>12531453
>adertizers
*advertisers
Shit.

>120k
*12k

>>12531399
I'm gonna coooooooooom!!!!

Why is there suddenly so much seething for Hololive right now?

>>12531515
That was Coco bringing in everyone including non-holo fans faggot

>>12531583
They are masochists that likes getting responses. Slow and steady guy should show up shortly.

>>12531449
Is that even a cope, who cares about one VA liking Holo or Niji

>>12531583
I slapped a schizo in the face with numbers, and now they're coping. Just another day...

>>12531643
Okay, let's cut that in half. 245k is still bigger than 200k.

>>12531583
Probably because there's only 2 niji manage to get 10k stream yesterday.

>>12531431
Gura Outifit got 194k
Usaken Summer Fest got 250k Total Views across multiple POVs
Sports Fest got 220k Total views across multiple POVs

Please stop spreading bullshit by saying Hololive's Ceiling is 100k

>12531431
Wonder why the NPB decided to collab with Hololive instead of Nijisanji when Nijisanji's defining event of the year is about baseball?
>His company's public head figure has never thrown a first pitch
roru rumao

>>12531643
So is Koshien, but they only get about 200k even with JP Baseball autism.

.

>>12531672
Still waiting for gen5 schizo, I miss that anon

>>12531431

Rikkun needs to strike while the iron is hot and hires Kson as a sort of special ambassador for Nijisanji. She can help them reach a bigger global audience.

>>12531745
They change collab partners every year retarded holo newfag, it was Niji last year, Holo this year and it'll be some other group next year.

>>12531643
>Attracts Normies
I thought Nijis are the ones that attracts Normies. Make up your mind

>>12531431
This will age so badly tomorrow. Why did you even type this?

>>12531583
Yesterdays top list was basically a Hololive sweep and HoloEN managed to have a great day with 3 streams over 10k and they didn't even need Minecraft to do it. Such a fantastic day for Hololive causes massive NijiSEETHE and NijiCOPE.

So what is the actual difference between vtubers and streamers like Dream/Corpse?

>>12530908
i don't know, but i would assume they were asked today and didn't have time to acquire permission.

>>12531431
Did you just miss the last JP among us collab anon?

25k lol

>>12531732
>Total Views across multiple POVs
lmao YouTube counts multiple tabs as separate viewers.
just watch a 0 video stream and you will see

>>12531453
You know I decided to check out their Twitter and saw that Noel is getting sponsored to eat on stream now.
https://twitter.com/shiroganenoel/status/1456160411741392899

>>12531800
Anime avatar filters a lot of people.

But the advantage of the anime avatar is you can attract people who don't care for traditional streamers. Lots of weebs haven't watched a single stream before vtubing blew up.

>>12531799
Don't forget that Myth basically took the day off and all of those 10k streams are from Council who Nijikeks like to proclaim as flops. That probably makes it burn just a little bit worse.

>>12531907
wait it's asmr ?

>>12531800
the latter can actually be entertaining without the anime girl gimmick

>>12531773
>nijisanji baseball autism
>not good enough for this

>>12531882
We already proved it doesn't please stop with the bullshit and accept reality.
Hololive mogs Nijisanji!
But does that make Nijisanji a failure? No, since they're fucking successful not just on Hololive's Level.

Atleast come up with better arguments

>>12531907
Some of their collabs never have streams attached. Just in the twitter sphere. Will Gen5 and Fubuki do a stream for that amusement park?

>>12531453
>60% EOPs
More than half of the english speaking population is asleep or at work/school when Pekora streams.
>SEA
Wasn't the narrative that SEA was Nijisanji leaning?

>>12531773
Yes cope harder I'm almost there

>>12531973
KU100 ASMR eating stream.

>>12531773
>Change collab partners
Nice cope for losing ground on the normalfag activity that your company is known for. Hololive does not have Sony's backing for your yearly holiday and they still got the sponsorship this year,

So did the Vshojo/NijiEN/IRL streamers collab bring anything interesting?

>>12531875
It's scary that after Gura, HoloEN has Mumei and Kronii that can bring over 20k for unarchived karaoke.

>>12532113
Only copious amounts of nijiseethe and sour grapes

>>12532113
ask VShojo thread

>>12532121
Mori too iirc.

>>12532005
>proved it

>>12532121
Mori too, but not consistently

>>12532121
Nijifags will call 20k+ for unarchived Karaoke as failure.
But when NijiEN ever gets 10k, pretty sure they'll boasts about it (I wonder when will that be LMAO, after a year or maybe never?)

Kronii looks like she's topped out at 25k unless she finds a second wind, not bad but that places her pretty firmly in the Mumei/Mori bracket for karaoke rather than up there towards Gura.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gY0-6CkLKYI

50k views in about a week is promising for a channel with only 500 subs.

>>12532121
Karaoke in general is a huge buff for EN and doubly so when its unarchived. IRyS does Karaoke every single week so its not nearly the special event for her like it is for the others but she still puts up great numbers for it. The next time Bae does a karaoke no doubt it will get at least 15k.

>>12532121
Mumei is comparable to Gura. Watch this bird get 1m views in a day when her MV drops

>>12532295
do you think she will get top 5 today ?

>>12532281
I made that claim. I do not like Nijisanji in any capacity, I am just saying HoloEN isn't doing to well nowadays.

>>12532199
Her last 2 karaokes hit 10k and 17k. It was the angst thing that hit 20k. It's about timing. Irys likes to cull her numbers by doing karaokes alongside JPs like Subaru and Pekora during the weekends

>>12532211
Wow, your dedication is commendable. But FAKE AND GAY.

>>12532295
Well yeah, no shit, lol. Even Suisei and Marine can't reach Gura karaoke numbers. Gura is the queen of it. Still a fantastic showing from Kronii.

>>12532398
Delusional

>>12532121
Mori does it consistently for unarchived. She also pulled IRyS who usually only gets 9-11k for archived karaoke to 26k when they collabed.

https://holo.poi.cat/stream/h_FcfU32GWI
https://holo.poi.cat/stream/RkedZGqWQrQ
https://holo.poi.cat/stream/X1QGDBpzPEc

New tweet from Don Quijote
https://twitter.com/donki_donki/status/1456471337040547843
Their 2nd run (pre-orders) sold way more than they expected.

>>12532412
LOL suuuuuuure buddy. I believe you.

>>12532281
>Selen gets 3k-4k stream
>Nijinigger : OMG she's like Pekora/Kuzuha of her branch

What do you mean 10k? They fucking brag about 3k stream of selen like its some sort of god tier numbers here. In reality thats lower than ratgirl zatsudan on pekora's timeslot. Kek

Donki x Holo campaign still exceeding expecations

https://twitter.com/donki_donki/status/1456471337040547843

>>12532412
Lol, no one takes your bait

>>12532430
>Her last 2 karaokes hit 10k and 17k
The 10k one was a rebroadcast, the 17k one was her practicing the same 3 songs for 4 hours it wasn't an actual karaoke. Her last 3 unarchived karaoke all went to over 20k. See >>12532477

>>12532366
The only good thing about Irys's karaokes is the fact she gets SCs unlike these unarchived. Her unarchived though are great but i understand why she does it less

>>12532121
It's very dumb to discuss the numbers of their first few Karaoke as if they will remain steady.
Ina,Mori,Kiara..all these used to get a fuckton of Karaoke views (even accounting for any bug/recline cope) for the very first few. Once the novelty wore off, only Gura remained with huge numbers, and even she doesn't have the same as she used to.

>>12532547
Based on this, I'm certainly excited to see what HoloMyth x OMOCAT would do for the collab.

>>12532432
I don't think it's fake, but the issue with YouTube is that whatever culling they use is likely dynamic, meaning that for below certain thresholds it likely doesn't bother to check for certain things. Fucking stupid ass website and their opaque fucking bullshit 'spamview' filter.

>>12532432
open a 0 view stream and you'll see the same result, dummy retard?
also
>does YouTube filter viewers
yes
>does YouTube not count 2 views when a viewers watch 2 different streams in 2 different tabs
no proof

>>12532477
Anon Irys only has gotten 9k twice in karaokes. All are above 10k

Kronii is singing Korean now. It looks like we will have another 300k+ views on the Korean side again boys.

>>12532465
>Even Suisei and Marine can't reach Gura karaoke numbers.
But why?? Guras voice is absolute shit

I have adblocks on. It counted my view temporarily, and then it deleted my view. Youtube filters adblock users and multitab viewers.

>>12532573
This is Kronii's 2nd Karaoke tho (3rd if you count the Members Only Karaoke).
Her First Public Karaoke got 29k and this time it got 25.9k.

>>12532733
She summoned them. Tons of Korean in her chat now, lol.

I love that the thread is filled with seething for Hololive now.

>>12532780
Gura sings in English and she does it very rarely

>>12532780
The absolute gayest post in this thread

>>12532780
>But why??
Part of the reason is that Gura karaokes are a lot more rare so they have much more of a special event feel
>Gura's voice is absolute shit
Oh, you are just a troll, ok.

>>12532780
She rarely does it and its unarchive.

>>12532811
Yes. This is why I said first few, anon.

>>12532842
As is wont to happen whenever nijiniggers get mogged

>>12532465
Suisei and Marine only does archived karaokes on prime JST for JOP though. Imagine that 4am JST Suisei's unarchived English only songs, but at primetime NA and weekend JST. She will 100% pull Gura's numbers

>>12532805
not the case for me, I waited for like 5 minutes
still got counted

>>12532430
Are you ESL or retard nigger that doesn't read title? Mori did a rebroadcast stream for her unarchived karaokes and that still hits 10k+, half of what she got in the original stream

>>12532917
No, I was quite serious cumshart, suisei has a better voice than her

>>12533063
Both are great singers. Suisei has strength, and Gura is mellow. No need to pretend you listen to them.

>>12532780
Mumei is a better singer the Gura.

Here, have some wild speculation.
This is what the Hololive plushies have been competing with.
One day of sales for the album.

>>12507238

* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN *

Nov. 11 JST
>36,339: Pekora (Hololive)
>24,261: Korone (Hololive)
>24,117: Miko (Hololive)
>22,977: Flare (Hololive)
>21,898: Miko (Hololive)
>16,820: Shibuya Hal (merise)
>16,679: Botan (Hololive)
>16,638: Fuwa (Nijisanji)
>15,715: Nene (Hololive)
>13,843: Rushia (Hololive)
>13,477: Shibuya Hal (merise)
>12,990: Ienaga Mugi (Nijisanji)
>11,615: Sora (Hololive)
>11,372: Okayu (Hololive)
>10,847: Gatchaman (indie)

>TOP WINNERS OF THE DAY - NOVEMBER 2021

1) Marine (Hololive) - 34.7k - Karaoke
2) Pekora (Hololive) - 42.5 - Minecraft (Sport fest)
3) Chronoir (Nijisanji) - 48.9k - Announcement

>>12532534
Because 3k is actually God Tier for nijifemale

>>12533056
Nah. She's not consistent and karaokes wasn't a regular thing for her until now. Her numbers before those 20ks were lower. She had lower with Milky for both karaokes they did. She only did 1 karaoke 2 months prior and 1 during her outfit reveal

>>12532465
>>12533001
I want a Gura Suisei Karaoke stream.

>>12533063
Oh look its another last samurai who thinks everyone who doesn't agree with him is a cumshart, because clearly the salty disingenuous nijiniggers weren't bad enough

>>12533326
>3k
is Niji female's average. it's not exactly godtier.

>>12533326
>3k

??? Lize gets 10k-15k on her stream

>>12533284
the Plastic love trend has died down a lot and that single is like 30 years old

>>12533284
10k+ on multiple plushes, for OVERSEAS, where it wasn't even properly advertised on reddit or by any official EN accounts.
Christ. How many fucking orders did they get Japan?

>>12533225
It's debatable. They both sing like your regular indie with a ukulele with whispery voices and autotune. I mean I guess that's what popular nowadays as unique but a lot of girls sounds like that. Their original songs is what really makes it or breaks it.

>>12533284
Lol, Hololive got mogged by a dead meme from an old hag.

>>12532805
>>12533011
I gave it 5 minutes, and I removed my adblock. I was counted as a viewer for the first 10 seconds, and then youtube decided to label me as a spam viewer (incognito?) and removed my view.
Go redo your test again, anon. I already did mine.

>>12523843
>top in each branch are just apex streamers who collab with their jp apex streamers
lmao why does apexsanji even bother hiring non apex players?

>>12533530
She will be in gen 6.

Mumei/Bae Collab ended.
Kronii is currently on 26.5k

>>12533536
>using no view chuubas as test subjects
This is funny

>>12531773
Guess we'll find out next year if they go for VSPO or 774.
extremely unlikely

>>12533530
> 10k sales in one day
> dead meme
The hag is dead, but the meme is still going strong, anon.

>>12533375
/#/ getting mogged by /hlgg/

>>12533530
Yeah Gura revived it

>>12533748
we have already gone through that months ago faggot

>>12533754
The power of the shark. Everything she touches becomes a viral sensation. Even 30 year old songs, lol.

>>12533011
There's absolutely some fuckery on YT's part WRT tabouts and culling, and its not consistent.

See Pic. This is from Marine's 3dLive where the sound was fucked, so they had to do some quick fixes and restart it from the beginning. There was nothing but a static screen, but the stream was still going. Sound comes in, and bam, sudden influx of viewers who's only notification that things were back would that the sound is back.
Same thing with concert free-parts of concerts where the number jumps up once they move from the looping start to the actual live, etc.
Fuck I HATE YOUTUBE SO MUCH sometimes.

>>12533871
>>12517979
New stats from last thread nigger

>>12533884
Anon. The song has been a meme for a long time now.

>>12533930
Another example is Ame's Outer Wilds stream

POLL POLL POLL

https://youtu.be/A8vq_XkX5bM

Predict MC sportfest numbers for watoson-kun numberbros.

>>12534013
*practice

>>12532805
tested it only counts as one. multiple tabs and multiple browsers too.
Heres example chrome, edge and firefox

>>12533474
how retarded are you, that 10k for album sales is japan-only

>>12534096
>>12532805
>>12532211
WHY. YOUTUBE. FUCK THIS SHIT. AT LEAST BE FUCKING CONSISTENT WITH YOUR CULLING BULLSHIT.

LET'S COUNT THE VOTES PEOPLE

>>12533985
The Gosling face stream.

27kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk

>>12530618
>you will never have PTSD flashbacks to the countless koshien posts where Pomu has 100k+ CCV
>you will never be the Numbernigger constantly baiting Holofans every time Holos get good numbers
What a precious, pristine life you live, friend. Stay pure.

>>12534096
Thank you for the effort anon. But i'm sure that coping nijifag will just ignore it. They're too high in copium.
>>12534013
It might get Kronii's Numbers so 15k-20k is doable

>Kronii sings KING
>Her viewership gets to 27k
How in the fuck is that song still so powerful, lol

>>12533474
Regardless, always good press when a big chain like Don Quijote is publicly going "yeah, we didn't think it would sell THIS well."
Curry Meshi lead to their spring sponsorship boom, I wonder of this will lead to another big boom of sponsors.
On the EN side, the Omocat collab could be huge as well.

>>12533687
It's cruel actually.

>4 minutes
>18k votes
>66% of ccv
love eops

>>12534302
I think the Omocat thing is going to be massive. So many EN fans are chomping at the bit to get Hololive merch but don't feel like paying a million dollars shipping or waiting 6 months to get their stuff. I just hope they are properly stocked.

>>12534290
And people enjoy listening to her failing songs and make weird sounds from embarrassment. lol

fucking pomu koshien of all thing

>24k likes
>27k viewers
That's a high like-to-viewer ratio

>>12534189
20k votes with 27k CCV in about 5 minutes. For an unarchived Karaoke stream. Which likely means lower viewer chrun than usual.
Yes youtube, I totally believe your poll has more than 70% fucking engagement, fuck your shitty ass CCV bullshit.

>>12534290
Awful rendition of King too.
I can't wait for the singing training arc for Kronii, it's going to be beautiful, like Subaru's.
If her numbers don't fall in a few months, she might even incline.

>>12534448
Its nothing we haven't seen before.
It happens literally every HoloEN stream actually.
Does anyone have the screenshot of the GAWR karaoke where Gura had 42k viewers, 44k likes?

>>12534477
>Awful rendition of King too.
Option discarded

>>12534536
Awful might be a strong word but it wasn't exactly good. Kronii isn't a good singer BUT she has the voice for it so the potential is there. If she takes voice lessons I could see her being a force.

>>12534096
anon the number was 2 there

>>12531583
>suddenly

>>12534713
How many tabs did he use, anon?

>>12534272
what is there to ignore?
it works on my machine

>>12534622
It feels like the voice is the biggest factor for karaoke? Holos with distinct voices (from most fans perspective) tend to attract viewers to check out how the "voice" will sounds like in different songs.

>Kronii beating the highest peak ccv from the squid game collab

Kronii's poll is getting 27k votes now.

27188 as soon as she started singing an English Song

>>12534392
If they manage to sell out of the merch it will certainly turn some heads.

>>12534968
>while making autistic noises.

>>12534829
so does youtube count multiple views from the same user or not?

>>12534968
Wait hold on, Valkyrae peaked 29k once.

For anyone curious.

>>12534948
Seeing as Pekora gets 20-25k with her karaokes and Flare/Okayu/Moona/Watame get around 8-10k, it's pretty evident that popularity of singer + uniqueness of voice are 2 factors that are more important to numbers than singing prowess. This is before going into the Nijisingers who get like 2k CCV.
The only Holos I think that gets debuffed by singing are Miko and Choco lol.

Why did the votes on 28.3k but her peak is just 27.2k??
The poll was just 19mins ago

>>12534968
Last time I saw, Dream was at 80K.

>>12535090
I had to look up that channel. It has one default view. Tester anon only counted once.

>>12535193
That isn't anything sus.
19 minutes is a lot of time for viewer churn.
Getting 66% viewer participation in a 4 min poll is BS tho.

>>12535162
Miko gets around 15k for her karaokes. Not a huge debuff for her. Also, don't put Miko in the same class as Choco. Miko isn't a bad singer at all.

>>12535193
YT ccv fuckery. No way you have more votes than ccv.

>>12535162
Migo....
Yea, there are plenty of talented singers in Niji, but they will never get the numbers that Holomem get. Feelsbadman.
>>12535090
Culls, but it appears that whatever they're using to do it isn't perfect and that sometimes a user can count for more than 1, but it tries to make 1 viewer = 1 view. aka, PAJEEEEEEET HAAAAANDS

>>12535193
>>12535263
>>12535254
30k Votes now on a 20mins poll