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>>12354263
Previous thread

>>12367692
ccv + sc
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://overseas.live-ranking.com/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/total-ranking/youtube
>https://www.dousetu.com/daily_ranking/
>http://v-ana.com/
>https://playboard.co/en/

Hololive
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://twitter.com/holo_data
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://mipacd.github.io/chat-stats/excl-chat.html
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html

Nijisanji
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings

>>12367692
ccv + sc
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://overseas.live-ranking.com/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/total-ranking/youtube
>https://www.dousetu.com/daily_ranking/
>http://v-ana.com/
>https://playboard.co/en/

Hololive
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://twitter.com/holo_data
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://mipacd.github.io/chat-stats/excl-chat.html
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html

Nijisanji
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings

>>12367692 (OP) #
ccv + sc
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://overseas.live-ranking.com/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/total-ranking/youtube
>https://www.dousetu.com/daily_ranking/
>http://v-ana.com/
>https://playboard.co/en/

Hololive
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://twitter.com/holo_data
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://mipacd.github.io/chat-stats/excl-chat.html
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html

Nijisanji
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings

>>12367692
The face of someone who is always mogging everyone with her live viewers count.

Here are some numbers:
This is the 5th numbers thread right now
>>12367771
>>12368283
>>12368026
>>12367692
>>12367225

populating this one with more replies so that it comes on top

>>12367997
meant this.

>>12368697
Are they ignoring those messages?

>>12368809
Yes/no, sometimes they read them if they pop up during the stream and nothing else is happening, but there's no way to see them during SC reading, so 90+% get lost.
Most people don't stick around for SC readings anyway.

>>12368417
kek someone is mad

>>12368809
Mostly it seems. What a terrible idea, for someone with thousands of members its just low quality spam

>>12368894
what triggered the kuzuhaschizo this time

>>12368938
he's always mad

>>12368914
Yeah I at least do my part and never use it

Oh guess we're using this one, time to repost then, here's the updated superchats for 2021 so far to the end of October

>Hololive (JP)
Kiryu Coco* - $1,465,968
Uruha Rushia - $1,460,234
Houshou Marine - $786,500
Yukihana Lamy - $777,269
Usada Pekora - $741,192
Amane Kanata - $723,142
Momosuzu Nene - $593,492
Tsunomaki Watame - $533,833
Inugami Korone - $495,060
Sakura Miko - $463,441
Oozora Subaru - $455,408
Minato Aqua - $443,980
Shiranui Flare - $441,933
Shirogane Noel - $383,068
Nekomata Okayu - $380,677
Nakiri Ayame - $363,151
Natsuiro Matsuri - $318,521
Shishiro Botan - $299,901
Tokoyami Towa - $280,995
Hoshimachi Suisei - $248,575
Shirakami Fubuki - $244,886
Aki Rosenthal - $203,416
Akai Haato - $202,038
Ookami Mio - $201,947
Himemori Luna - $197,124
Murasaki Shion - $189,137
Omaru Polka - $158,287
Tokino Sora - $112,296
Roboco - $106,156
Yozora Mel - $61,521
Yuzuki Choco - $56,297

>Hololive EN
Mori Calliope - $670,807
Takanashi Kiara - $619,652
Gawr Gura - $549,032
Amelia Watson - $323,703
Ninomae Ina'nis - $286,326
IRyS - $126,307
Ouro Kronii - $114,829
Tsukumo Sana - $52,957
Nanashi Mumei - $47,068
Hakos Baelz - $45,870
Ceres Fauna - $43,331

>Hololive ID
Kureiji Ollie - $167,573
Pavolia Reine - $82,602
Anya Melfissa - $41,725
Moona Hoshinova - $38,312
Airani Iofifteen - $30,384
Ayunda Risu - $22,468

>Inonaka Music
AZKi - $38,146

>Holostars
Yukoku Roberu - $114,208
Astel Leda - $82,808
Arurandeisu - $71,939
Kageyama Shien - $70,214
Aragami Oga - $58,871
Kishido Temma - $51,409
Rikka - $43,187
Hanasaki Miyabi - $43,083
Kanade Izuru - $41,614

Not going to bother with the totals anymore since one of the nips already did it >>12360831
I'll post Niji some time tomorrow but probably just as a top 50 or something because calculating all the bottom feeders is time consuming as all hell
And btw Rushia already took the top spot today with a casual $6.7k regular Minecraft stream, that girl is scary

>>12368894
No way am i mad, those are some good numbers

>>12368417
Good, schizos can discuss their losses

>>12369062
thanks as always anon

>>12367692
I wanna do a number on her cunny

>>12366594
The same has been said for October

>>12369062
I joined after Coco, why are her numbers so high that she's still top, 3 months after graduating?
What about her streams made people throw money at her?

>>12366594
>debuts gen 6
it's over...

Mel going for the quick miko interaction boost to get to 4k. Respectable for mel.

>>12369062
Bro, Look how much Holostars earn, Yeah they might be 2 view streamers but jesus.
Just a casual $577,333 from them alone.

>>12369207
I can't remember

>>12369207
older audience demographic + built a superchat culture around various gimmicks. if she didn't graduate, rushia would have held top 1 over her from the normal grinding. her graduation was just such a mass of money that it took a while to catch up.
there's probably a lot more to it that you could use to explain, but i didn't watch much coco.

>>12369207
Anon, she made 3million+ dollars in 1.5 years, she'll be on these lists a lot.

As to why, she maximized meme donations, has a not so common leader personality that made the Tatsunokos follow her lead in a lot of ways, including invent all sorts of other meme donations and she also did long talk sessions where she reads every message and replies.

There are honestly too many things she and her fans brought to the table as far as making SC goes, to list a few:
- the blue flush
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6VKIvpFyWY
- rainbow SC weren't invented by them but got a big boost
- "buying" Asacoco products - she wasn't even monetized for a lot of these, so it was more of a meme that got out of hand.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFbXRaHePSc

>>12369207
her fans use it as a dick waving contest.

Daily top coming up in a few minutes. You guys surely figured out that time changed here in bongland, offseting one hour from the usual time

>>12369493
unironically this

>>12369518
yeah, it's actually weird how early events will be for a while.

>>12369470
Does anyone have numbers on the superchats from her graduation stream alone?
>>12369491
Interesting how she could make a culture like that in her chat similar to twitch.

>>12369062
At the beginning of the year people on vt told me that ENs would be at top of the SC ranking by the end of the year...

>>12369631
Those people have never played a gacha.
Japan is unparalleled in how much they flippantly spend on their digital hobbies compared to anywhere else.

>>12369207
Tatsunokos are mentally ill

Sad news numberbros marine might not participate in sports fest

>>12369207
It feels like just yesterday.... you whippersnappers don't know how it was...

>>12369587
Yes and No
The stream is the most superchatted thing on YT, possibly on any streaming platform.
https://playboard.co/en/channel/UCS9uQI-jC3DE0L4IpXyvr6w

But no, because she got an immense amount of SC after the stream ended in her Free Chat which was lost.
Wouldn't be surprised if it was another 100k$}

>>12369676
We herd the new, it's right after the 2nd Shot.
she wasn't going to be the captain anyway, but would be nice to have her for some rounds if the fever doesn't kick in.

* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN *

Here it goes
>34,579: Marine (Hololive)
>31,541: Pekora (Hololive)
>24,395: Miko (Hololive)
>20,829: Amelia (Hololive)
>19,847: Rushia (Hololive)
>18,797: Shibuya Hal (merise)
>18,682: Ina (Hololive)
>13,694: Calli (Hololive)
>13,398: Chihiro (Nijisanji)
>13,271: Shion (Hololive)
>12,981: Lamy (Hololive)
>11,319: Toya (Nijisanji)
>10,779: Fauna (Hololive)
>10,519: Fuwa (Nijisanji)

>>12369848
Chihiro for the absolute clutch with a singing stream nonetheless preventing a shutout for NIjisanji on the Top 10

>>12369848
Damn Marine beating Pekora... Pekora must be seething off-stream right now

Theory:
Cover was so deadset on not having any grifters in HoloEN gen 2 they ended up with people who didn't even care about numbers or earning. It's good to filter out those who only care about money but you still need some people with the drive to make some. They make money you make money.

>>12369988
Cover seems to approach their hiring with people who show the most potential and have a baseline level of talent and/or dedication.
As has been said before, SC is a pretty small portion of income for the company and talents and how they perform during sponsorships/events tend to be more important.
This upcoming NY convention will be their first event, I wonder who will take the lead.

>>12369988
people that unables the sc during sc readings

>>12369988
You can multiply their numbers by 5 to see how they stack up if they had been streaming the entire year.
Their numbers are fine for new debutees.

>>12370135
I'm not saying some aren't talented, I'm saying they really don't have the drive for the most part.

>>12369848
Hololive 10
Nijisanji 4
Not a banner day.

>>12370135
>I wonder who will take the lead
the more extroverts

>>12369256
>JP 6
>EN Outfits
That's like 10 days in the bag. That is, if they don't overlap on Kuzuha's birthday. The free portion of his concert could get 50k probably.

>>12370194
It becomes Kronii and the Ina tier midgets.
>>12370204
Hopefully not the crazy one.

>>12370229
>JP 6
/#/ lying or is there meat on this bone?

>>12369848
Wait... something's wrong... it's Monday!
>no Patra ASMR
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qXcnxPfmPc

it ended just a few minutes ago but peaked at 16,800 anon.
Is it because of the daylight savings change?

>>12370262
Miko's minecraft stream

>>12370268
Patra ASMR starts after midnight JST and counts for tuesday, usually

>>12370262
See >>12365343
The stream is still going so we can't confirm it yet.

>>12370262
Miko hinting it. They'll debut probably after all the events had finished meaning the 3 or 4th of this month.

>>12370301
Could have sworn i saw it in Monday lists.
Eh, anyway, it'll be there for tomorrow then, nothing lost.

>>12370331
3rd or 4th week*

>>12370310
Miko is known for joking around. Did she say something like "it'd be nice if there were more people" or some shit?

>>12368809
I found that some of them just disabled it. Pekora's is disabled, I think

>>12370235
These posts would have just been, "HoloEn gen 1 are complete failures if they're getting matched by gen 2 this early."
There's no winning.

>>12370357

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fw--kjLNd74

>>12370367
Im watching Miko too but I dont think I catch that. probably because Im an EOP and have no idea what she's talking about desu

>>12369848
>12,657: Ironmouse (Vshojo)

>>12370595
It would be amazing if anons submitted VShojo to live-ranking so they would appear in the dailies.
It is already hard enough to fetch holoEN2 by hand to fix when live-ranking fucks up, trying to get Twitch numbers is imposisble.

>>12370229
>JP6
Predictions? Can they all get 90k+?

>>12370559
Speaking of Dudul (which may or may not be here, an honor for this wretched hive), his Virgil clip may hit 1M soon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UxqEx1TF0o&t=19s

>>12369848
>No kanae or watame
This site is eating up a few streams, because those 2 were streaming before midnight and they were above 10k, and should be above Lammy.

>>12370705
>No kanae or watame
Both started before midnight JST and featured in their prev day rank.
https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/archives-ranking?date=2021-10-31

The thing is: they peaked after 1AM JST so they got shafted

>>12370331
NO, stop spamming about 6th gen it is not happening
Miko did not hint at anything she's just talking about what if more people join she has to split sport fes into 2 days
but never said anything about JP6
remember Lamy talked about JP6 and even prepared gifts half a year ago?
there is no confirmation or hint at when they come stop passing wrong information

>>12369062
Lamy has her birthday next month and at just $9k off Marine there's a good chance she'll finish the year as the second highest active vtuber which is just insane really

>he fears the JP6

>>12370784
The Selejo vs JP5 modding must have been legendary.

>>12370675
>>12370559
Also
>DUDULTV, YOU DUMB FOOL
Stop posting the full video on reddit and Twitter. Make a 10 seconds teaser for Reddit and Twitter and post the whole thing on your Youtube Channel.

it doesn't matter if it is not even monetized, you're an animator, animations go on Youtube so you can get big numbers to use as your portfolio.

>>12370734
That's a garbage site if it shafts the late nighters, I hope that anon finally gets round to making his own

>>12370734
That makes no fucking sense.

>>12370815
I've noticed artists really care a lot about Twitter metrics more than YT metrics. Somehow Twitter became the default artist social media

>>12370828
>>12370846
Sadly, it make sense. There is a cutting point needed no matter if it is 1AM JST or 6AM JST, a stream can't count for two days and you never know if it will peak after the chosen cutting point so this can never be fully avoided

>>12370734
Hmm, sounds like we should add them today then.

>>12370595
Checked the Ironmouse stream and yeah, just a really strong stream. No raids or anything.
>11,134 average viewers for the VR chat part.
https://twitchtracker.com/ironmouse/streams/43681141004

>>12370811
Very. But unlike Edengumi, Selejo never had a chance from the very start.

>>12367692
kys cumshart

>>12370849
That's because they're dumb. A tweet will disappear from EVERYBODY'S timeline in what, a weeks time?

A viral youtube video will continue making the rounds for fucking months, see Ayame Cover
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1W4c7ym49Y

She didn't even make an english title for a song whose title is a kana-ified english

A heavy hitting prime time tomorrow
>Marine-Miko collab
Seems like a shill stream
>Subaru-Botan-Korone Minecraft

So Corona is winding down, at some point it just sort of runs out of people to infect and people stop giving a shit. Happened a while ago in parts of NA, slowly happening elsewhere. So presumably Myth is going to take a major trip to JP. You are Yagoo.
1) How long do you want them in JP?
2) Do you try to do a live concert while they are there?
3) Do you have them guest at Bloom or do their own?
4) Does Mori get her own?
5) How do you do their 3d reveal? On stream? Or at concert?
Live events would bring in millions, how do you maximize value?

>>12370903
Adding them today causes the stream to be counted twice, both start date and on the day of the peak. You're going to answer "just add the peak regardless", but there will be anons who spaz out if a stream has 10k+ on both days. So for simplicity I agree that only the start day of the stream should count for peaks, it's logical in a data for toplist of the day.

>>12370849
>>12370926
Twitter is the main social media for artists though, it's been like that for the last 3-4 years.
A lot of them don't even post on Pixiv anymore, or just post a pack of works every few months.
Twitter is still massive and well regarded in Japan and they never got used to Facebook, so everyone gathers there.

>>12371015
>collabs
Illegal boxpushing.

I will laugh when they lose though.

>>12369848
Pekora unbeatable top queen female streamers as always

>>12370914
>seething this bad over an OPic
N
G
M
I

>>12371015
Yea, Lapis Relights shill stream.
>>12371027
1. A month
2. Yes
3. Guest at the first week, their own concert at the last week
4. Yes
5. Mori want to do 3D debut like Suisei

>>12371027
>Corona is winding down
The ride never ends, when will you people learn?

>>12371085
What could win over MikoMarine? Especially after their Among us ghost duo?

From Nijisanji, Belmond has a birthday on the 3rd.
He's a mid-level draw 2-4k viewers but will do ok if he has a birthday countdown. Nothing to take the day though.

>>12371182
It's a shill stream for some mobile game nobody ever heard of though, strong combo but that's a huge debuff

Here's some numbers you can have fun with
Money earned per hour streamed in october

Nakiri Ayame - $13279.09/h
Houshou Marine - 3166.23/h
Uruha Rushia - $1917.16/h
Amane Kanata - $1261.52/h
Akai Haato - $1093.69/h
Minato Aqua - $1091.61/h
Oozora Subaru - $953.32/h
Inugami Korone - $885.26/h
Hoshimachi Suisei - $868.20/h
Natsuiro Matsuri - $843.57/h
Shishiro Botan - $703.06/h
Murasaki Shion - $680.60/h
Aki Rosenthal - $625.25/h
Momosuzu Nene - $623.51/h
Mori Calliope - $554.53/h
Shirogane Noel - $532.80/h
Shirakami Fubuki - $505.54/h
Yukihana Lamy - $499.30/h
Ouro Kronii - $497.79/h
Gawr Gura - $487.40/h
Usada Pekora - $458.91/h
Tsunomaki Watame - $451.87/h
Yozora Mel - $440.62/h
Tsukumo Sana - $412.87/h
IRyS - $382.33/h
Himemori Luna - $359.19/h
Nekomata Okayu - $338.11/h
Takanashi Kiara - $337.21/h
Ceres Fauna - $329.70/h
Ookami Mio - $318.17/h
Shiranui Flare - $305.35/h
Sakura Miko - $281.28/h
Tokoyami Towa - $268.91/h
Hakos Baelz - $267.94/h
Nanashi Mumei - $247.65/h
Kureiji Ollie - $218.05/h
Watson Amelia - $201.34/h
Omaru Polka - $173.25/h
Ninomae Ina'nis - $167.90/h
AZKi - $152.00/h
Tokino Sora - $123.80/h
Moona Hoshinova - $108.64/h
Airani Iofifteen - $101.88/h
Roboco - $95.24/h
Ayunda Risu - $91.44/h
Yuzuki Choco - $55.19/h
Pavolia Reine - $46.77/h
Anya Melfissa- $40.10/h

>>12371275
Can you do it for nijisanji too?

>>12371275
>$13279.09/h

>>12371275
Ayame.. if only she streamed more, she would be mogging everyone

>>12371275
based ayame

>>12371275
very expensive enkou here

>>12371396
Nah, she is doing it right. Long droughts between her streams make her fans want to give her more money for her return. Stream to often and the donations become more spaced out. It's kind of like some exclusivity deal making the SC feel more valuable since she rarely streams consistently

>>12371275
>Nakiri Ayame - $13279.09/h

So this the current Sub count of the Council girls at this moment

Kronii 507k
Mumei 404k
Fauna 341k
Baelz 336k
Sana 215k
So what do you all think their sub count will be by the time Anime NYC panel

>>12369470
She'd still be on top either way from her own normal grinding if she continued. There were tens of millions we'll never even be able to count from the freechats. Her paypigs were a step above even Rushia's.

>>12371367
1. Kuzuha - $50/hour
2. Kaida Haru - $40/hour
3. Axia Krone - $25/hour
4. Fushimi Gaku - $15/hour
5. Kanae - $15/hour
6. Yuuki Chihiro - $15/hour
7. Elira Pendora - $15/hour
8. Oliver Evans - $15/hour
9. Leos Vincent - $15/hour
10. Selen Tatsuki - $15/hour
11. Lauren Iroas - $12/hour
12. Pomu Rainpuff - $12/hour
13. Fuwa Minato - $12/hour
14. Naraka - $12/hour
15. Furen E Lustario - $12/hour
16. Nina Kosaka - $12/hour
17. Nui Sociere - $12/hour
18. Joe Rikiichi - $12/hour
19. Ibrahim - $12/hour
20. Enna Alouette - $12/hour
21. Millie Parfait - $12/hour
22. Kenmochi Toya - $12/hour
23. Sister Claire - $12/hour
24. Rosemi Lovelock - $12/hour
25. Suo Sango - $12/hour
26. Hanabatake Chaika - $9/hour
27. Tsukino Mito - $9/hour
28. Kagami Hayato - $9/hour
29. Finana Ryugu - $9/hour
30. Suzuka Utako - $9/hour
31. Petra Gurin - $9/hour
32. Reimu Endou - $9/hour
33. Ars Almal - $9/hour
34. Elu - $9/hour
35. Lain Paterson - $9/hour
36. Shirayuki Tomoe - $9/hour
37. Ryushen - $7/hour
38. Honma Himawari - $7/hour
39. Rindou Mikoto - $7/hour
40. Shellin Burgundy - $7/hour
41. Takamiya Rion - $7/hour
42. Debidebi Debiru - $7/hour
43. Matsukai Mao - $7/hour
44. Kurusu Natsume - $6/hour
45. Lize Helesta - $6/hour
46. Sasaki Saku - $6/hour
47. Eli Conifer - $6/hour
48. Inui Toko - $6/hour
49. Amamiya Kokoro - $6/hour
50. Asahina Akane - $6/hour

>>12371275
>Nakiri Ayame - $13279.09/h

>>12371646
Eh? For real?
I was worried for Choco living in Tokyo on $55.19/h
But almost all of Nijisanji make below minimum wave (if these were their only sources of income)

>>12371236
I am still sad that no sheep for October.

>>12371646
Jesus, these people make less than a burger flipping job. They most likely make up for it in subs and possibly a flat salary from Nijisanji and other bonuses

>>12371275
She doesn't even need to stream more than that if the other members keep talking about her and animations like this are made.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDJ9IJEM1wE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQGLebUDb90
She probably has more hours in animations and clips from other Holomen channels than hours streamed these last few months.

>>12371646
whta?
this can't be right

>>12371790
That's what IRL and idol events do to you.
Fewer hours streams and most of those just casual "SC readings" at 4k avg.
But she got a concert AND an album!

>>12371822
Nijisanji does not give a flat salary. Look to memberships/merch/ shill shit.

>>12371774
that's
>minimum wage

>>12371367
Nah i don't feel like wasting a lot of my time just so people can copypaste two lines of it to make the billionth low effort bait thread.
What an incredibily fitting Captcha i got.

>>12371646
>kuzuha
>$77,185
>165 hrs
>$470/hr

>>12371774
im assuming she's given so little because she's given money from the same people for her whore shit, not sure about RBC though

>>12371646
There's something really wrong with your math, anon.
>31. Petra Gurin - $9/hour
Petra made $6,387 in superchats last month. She streamed 17 times last month, so by that math she would be getting $375/stream. By your $9/hour metric, she would be streaming for 41 hours each time.

>>12371646
Anons... it's fake, cmon
>>12359876
Kuzuha Oct superchats:$77,185
>>12371236
Hours streamed : 165
average per hour: 467.78$

>>12371646
Lmao everyone believing you

>>12370815
>>12370815
Sup anon,
Teasers shareability would be a fraction of what it is now, the hologirls look around on twitter content more than YT plus most production committees for animation use Twitter to scout

(All the extra work I recieved over the last 2 years was from Twitter and none from YT)

You could argue that more views on YT will bring more money... Nah, for short less than 1 minute clips I will maybe earn 100$ next month because watch time for this is low.
I just post on YT so people won't reupload it themselves lol

>Not a single EN stream scheduled for today
What am I even meant to numberfag

>>12371998
o7

>>12371998
That's why I'm suggesting posting a teaser on Twitter and full on youtube

I'm also a number brain no talent no social media experience chan dweller retard so of course take my opinion with the grainiest of salts

>>12371955
>There's something really wrong with your math
>Math
It is just a shitpost there isn't anything to it

>>12371960
>(Kuzuha)average per hour: 467.78$
>>12371275
>Nakiri Ayame - $13279.09/h
K-KING... :-(

>>12371880
>Nah i don't feel like wasting a lot of my time just so people can copypaste two lines of it to make the billionth low effort bait thread.
kek, you surely know >>12371646 beat you to the punch anyway

Might as well post the real deal

>>12372005
Monday seems to be an official rest day for most of EN, if not all.

>>12372073
All good

I was actually thinking if there's a way to make teasers work but in all options they would get maybe 15% reach at most.
Also making a short teaser of a 15-30 second video seems meh. It works way better with long productions or full music videos etc.

Remember that most people are fucking lazy on social media and just making them click one extra time or having to go to another website is already a big turnoff lol

Also I rather to build "a brand" on many different platforms than centralize and rely on YouTube which fucked and still fucks animators countless times

>>12372245
If anything it saved me the trouble, if the average poster here is gullible enough to fall for that bait there's no saving grace. If you're so curious about it, do it yourself

>>12371275
Goddamnit Ayame.

* NijiEN day, earlier today *
They're slowly getting the hang of avoiding multiPOV collabs overlapping among themselves
>maybe someday, somehow

Also they still didn't get the hang of this whole
>unarchived thing

It works wonders if your portfolio already have some 50M VOD views but if you just started having every other stream as unarchived
>IS DUMB AS FUCK
please don't do this

>>12372500
Here is the NijiEN peaks for all streams so far (excluding the debut streams for each) plus the 10 streams peak average

There is Selen UUUUUUP HERE then there is the rest going below 2k and slightly above 1k.

>>12372362
Just curious, how have these Holo animations impacted your professional portfolio? Gotten any new opportunities outside the Holosphere?

White C for SportsFes will be on Bae's pov

>>12373001
Won't someone think of the numbers?

>>12372350
Having a guaranteed uncontested streaming slot is so valuable, so many dead hours. Why aren't they syncing who has what days free?

>>12373063
Box pushing Bae's channel perhaps? Or just Bae will have less ping consider her location.

>>12372764
I do think that it did improve for me quite a bit after this year.
I don't wanna list them all out but I will just say that pre hololive I was heavily if not only relying on friends to help me get an job
I still reject a lot of offers as I'm not in a need of money and I want to have some free time to not burn out

>>12373001
Jesus christ.
People assumed the worst that Gura was going to pass it onto Ina, but Bae is much lower tier than either.
Irys and Bae aren't exactly most people's 1st choice for EN.

>>12373189
I wonder if the biggest viewer loss due to this is that Gura's viewers wont know that they need to watch Bae's strean. Or that they would rather watch another team's pov even if it means they wont get to hear gura.

>>12373342
We saw yesterday already that not having Gura stream hurts the overall numbers quite a bit.
Logically, there should be no reason why the most popular member isn't streaming... except for the most obvious reason that it's Gura so ofc she isn't streaming

Welp, at least we have our excuses ready if the EN sports fes numbers underperform.
Sad news for numberfags.

>>12373001
If I was their manager I would be threatening graduation. The culture of disdaining numbers in HoloEN drives me up the wall. Get the numbers you little shits. You have the power, fucking use it.

>>12372005
the other ENs

>>12374424
They've been getting good blockgame boosts lately

>>12374462
atm veibae is playing an indie horror game and melody is still doing zatsudan (before minecraft)

>>12374462
Vei's is playing From the Darkness and Mel's on Just Chatting just now but I'm sure there'll be more minecraft soon. Think there's about 20-30 people in their server now.

>>12371236
damn hours broadcasted of pekora and miko who are considered workhorses in holo look so small compared to other streamers

>>12374462
their numbers are always this high unfortunately

wish KFP would step their game up and tune into more streams

OCTOBER VIEW/TIME RANKINGS

See the picture for the numbers. Just look at the big table on top for the quickest results; or the one on the bottom for individual ranks..
>If you want a quick summary, most categories of jp vtubers are falling in october, when compared to september, as predicted with the end of the summer vacation buffs. Ens stagnated mostly.

>The group with best results were HoloID (big events) and Others (indies and small corpos [too influenced by heavy weights such as shbuya hal or kson]). Apex vtubers should grow a bit again with new apex season coming up next month as well.

>Meanwhile, the holo and niji ENs seem stagnated/falling overall (EN holo gen1 has no more anniversaries buff this month; and EN niji wave 3 was weak even with debut buffs, giving only small growth overall);
>VShojo had a small growth (as opposed to the small decline last month) - new members might give them a greater boost though; and Nimu is managing to keep her steam going so far.

>I’m using the metric (vod) views/time because it seems to be the best metric we can use for comparisons.
>There’s no way to calculate direct hours watched without having access to data analytics from inside each channel owner or bullshitting it; simply counting total views doesn’t take into account how much did they stream to get there (and they usually count small skits and music videos as well); and live viewers (on youtube) are very buggy and cut off a significant portion of that real number (for example, comparison between Miko’s twitch and youtube minecraft streams seem to indicate that 35% of her yt live viewers numbers are hidden [read the OP or the whole thread >>2253454 for anons discussion on the possible reasons for it) (not to mention that twitch max live viewers are constantly influenced by twitch raids coming from other channels).

>Reading and trying to compare all those ratios for each hour length would have been a pain for any of you, so that’s why I’ve already made the ranking tables, with ranks for inside each time length.
>The longer the stream time, the fewer vtubers that had any videos available to calculate.
>Never compare general view/time ratios of streamers who have very different stream duration averages - that’s why I painted those general rankings on the right in grey.
>Only compare data (or ranks) from the same time length.

>For combining those ranges from each time length, i inverted each position into a fraction (position/total), calculated the average of all available time-length fractions for each streamer, and then compared those resulting numbers: the smaller your fraction is, it means the higher yours positions were, so you rank higher.
>You can see a practical example (from may) here: >>4423534.

>Video types like short skits, short amvs/covers/original songs, watchalongs, members-only, sc-only, or private were not included for the calculations.
>Videos analyzed for 'this month' are from the time period of 01-10-21 to 01-11-21 (~2pm jst).

>You can see the biggest individual growth fluctuations with those vtubers who had some huge special stream (like 3ds, costumes, returns, tournaments).
>They can be big rises if the special vids happened on this month; or big falls if the special vids occurred on last month.
>On those cases you can see % change of one specific time length way superior than the rest for that vtuber.

>Collecting all this data was a whole lot of work, so no promises that I’ll be doing this again, or as big of a list.
>I don’t think I missed anyone too big, I left out the smaller nijisanjis, or holostars or whoever else because I don’t have the time to include them all - but I did include a few smaller ones just out of curiosity.
>Expect the list of checked vtubers to be cut by a good number on the next month.
>And no "now im suddenly a vtuber" trendhoppers were included either.
>Ayame and Marine and Shigure Ui were consired inactive due to only streaming once, and it being very buffed special events, like several other examples on prev months.
>If you think I left out someone relevant you can try convincing me to do their numbers as well, although if they are too small I’ll just tell you to fuck off. Or you can just calculate it yourself and post it here, not too hard.

>I didnt proofread this, if something mentions september is because i forgot to update the text or pic.
>i think on last thread someone asked if i would update those names. Definitely not for this month version, as it will likely mess with some formulas. Give me a full list of those names youd like changed and ill see what i can do for next time. Short lists will be ignored.

>ill reply to myself with that top vtubers history pic

>>12374996
me again, and here's the vtubers ranks history, updated. This one is not supposed to be perfect especially for the past years having worse sources, but it gives a good indication I guess.
Remeber that everybody might be jumping two or three positions up, because shigure, marine and ayame were not present on this month’s ranks - considered inactive
As things of interest, I could list:
- kronii had her best position ever tied with her debut month
- rushia had her best position ever
- subaru had her best position ever
- suisei had her best position ever
- ina had her best position in a year
- noel had her best position ever
- nimu had her best position ever and best of twitch as well (third month in a row)
- irys had her best position ever not counting debut month
- polka had her best position ever not counting debut month
- naraka had her best position ever
- Mchi Komame a small jp indie got to top 50 by appealing to the taiwanese apparently
- nyanners best vshojo position ever
- nyanners got in but ironmouse got out (#52), so still no double vshojo in the top 50

what's this talk about gen 6? I'm lost, who said what?

>>12374996
based

>>12373189
>>12373342
they probably like bae for a 7am stram for burgers since she is also firendly to jops

>>12374462
teir minecraft buff already passed
vei is playing some horror game.
Also yesterday they had a VR chat collab in iron mouse channel but didint pass 12k

Some weird streamers up at this hour.
Miko and Luna also only recently ended stream
Kiara also streaming to 5.4k for the YT top of the hour.
Veybey takes it overall, with over 10k
>>12374424

>>12374812
Shaka probably sleep during stream so...

>>12375242
it's not that weird considering that veibei is apparently polish or something right?
Only Nene seems odd to be streaming, though there is people I don't know there.

So Kiara stepped up and saved ENs skin tonight. And a mc stream as well, should get decent numbers considering.

>>12375136
Miko was talking about how it's getting crowded, might need to split the festival in 2 days next time.
Anon understood it as talks about JP6th gen or ID 3rd, but we won't know until someone competent translates the moment.

>>12375136
Delusional 35p

>>12375298
It was weird for Mel, Kiara and Miko to be up at these hours, they usually stream earlier, but the Minecraft grind.

>>12375354
Kiara is always opportunistic and she also seems to feel genuinely bad when no one in EN is streaming during primetime. Last time there was a completely dead day like this she did a guerilla stream too. How does this happen with 11 streamers? No idea.

One of the few consolations for Haaton is that, AT VERY LEAST, Haachama will stream Haachama Sundays on Sunday
>WELL?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dk9sbDguyP0

Are you ready for Haachama Sunday on Sunday, November 2nd, 2021?

>>12375298
Nene couldn't sleep so she decided for some singing practice instead.

>>12375298
Vei is ethnically half Polish but she lives in Britland.

>>12375242
Pomu had 2k at one point, she's been slowly declining over the hours but Kiara starting up knocked off several hundred from her audience.

>>12374006
Why do you think Jenma loves Kiara so much? Too bad Kiara has too many self inflicted debuffs that it drives most casual viewers away.

>>12374996
Thanks for the work as always.

>>12375039
Similar to Gura, Kronii has a big global fanbase. It makes sense that her VOD will do better than most, but I didn't think the second best EN vtuber would be a top 3 contender when her CCV is 2/3 of Gura's. Marine is returning, so I doubt Kronii can stay in top 3, but it's safe to say that she is a top 10 resident.
Mito has been declining lately. I take it the nips are bored of her format, so it makes sense that she is seeking overseas fans.

>>12375039
chinga tu madre nimu

>>12375039
I am a reletive newfag to numbers but how much of a paradigm shift was the summer of 2020? I admit that was when I got into vtubing and hololive in June of 2020 but I didn't pay attention to numbers until recently. Nijisanji was dominant but by the time Summer rolled around it had shifted and by autumn it was a mogging.

>>12376274
>Kronii top 10 resident.
eh, based on her taste for weird indie games, that sounds kinda unlikely. But shes also a pokemon/animalcrossing/minecraft addict, so who knows

>>12376753
Hololive started to blow up in Spring 2020. Summer and Fall were just continual increases until Youtube decided to castrate their own system in early December.

>>12376924
It feels like the era of Nijisanji dominance just ended without ceremony. It looks overnight and not really a long battle. One day it's mostly Niji with some hololivers and then a few months later they are in the minority and a few months later they chopped to a nub. Nijifemales were fucking beasts at one point.

Oh, Bae is streaming the Sports fes POV since she volunteered and no one else wanted to do it...

>>12377047
Is Nijifemales number falling or Hololive number increasing so much? I don't understand how Nijifemales are declining

>>12377047
well january to march 2020 looks like the the greatest struggle, but then gibara fell

>>12377047
Must be sad to care so much about numbers. Even more when those you refer to have like 3k averages.

>>12377308
there's no such thing as nijifemales anon. It's not like hololive where hololive and holostars are different agencies under cover. Male and female are literally in the same company, sometimes even in the same wave like Tomoe, Fuwa and Gwelu.

>>12377354
>Must be sad to care so much about numbers

>>12377394
I mean why female niji somewhat in decline when male niji has good numbers at least top one? Is that just my imagination?

>>12376924
>Hololive started to blow up in Spring 2020
>>12377047
>It feels like the era of Nijisanji dominance just ended without ceremony.
If you guys want to see the history of both companies in one chart, that would be this one
>pic related
It is based on this list >>12360831 for 2021 data, and a similar nip made list for the years before.

It pretty much tells the whle story of how nijisanji started ahead and how and when Hololive blown up and grew to an absurd point.

>>12377599
Graduations hit Niji females hard. Gibara and Lulu were pretty strong, and they haven't developed new talents to replace or surpass them. Kuzeha is his own thing. If he leaves Niji males and Niji in general will look a lot weaker as a group

>>12377599
Most of the female have good numbers though. There's some females on the lower end much like males in the lower end, with Hajime and Naru being the lowest in the branch.

>>12377662
Here is the same chart, but for the cumulative values. The month to month data doesn't show the whole picture as this one does

>>12377662
>>12377712
Here is the cumulative for 2021 alone. The difference just keeps growing, without Nijisanji ever making a comeback even for a single month

>>12377709
Does Kiara have good numbers? I mean in an absolute sense yes of course, she's made life changing money in a year. But she's graded on the Hololive curve and mocked as a midget. She has more ccv and views than 95% of the females on that chart.

>>12377666
>>12377709
So it's just an illusion because they have Kuzuha who skewed the numbers so much in favor of male Niji

>>12377662
>>12377712
>>12377763
I don't think nijisanji ever had the superchat culture of hololive. Spending in it seems really low, to the point where NijiEN can get on the top easily since the superchat culture in the west is different. And when you see who nijien surpass, you know that nijien isn't exactly more popular than Kanae, Mito, Himawari, Sasaki and others, without even counting voice packs and that kind of stuff.

>>12377709
where's pomu

>>12377763
The most amazing part is as a vtuber matures it seems alternative income streams become more and more important: members, ads/premium, sponsorships, concerts, etc. It's most obvious when the talents explicitly cut back on streams to prepare for concerts, music, etc but it manifests more subtly too. But despite their talents devoting more and more energy to these things the SC income keeps growing.

>>12377779
Yes, of course. In the same way that if you pick many of those and put against other JP agencies, they'll be much above.

Nijisanji can fight with hololive with having high numbers here and there but holo already is on another level with their popularity on both japan and overseas. If this was a battle to have more numbers, Nijisanji already lost due to that. Thankfully for them it isn't but in terms of fanboy wars, there's not much outside of big events like 3D debuts, tournaments and special events.

>>12377870
She isn't japanese. No matter how much she wishes she was

>>12377870
I'm Pomu

>>12378026

>>12377298
She and Irys are pretty good with Minecraft cameras and at capturing moments, so they're good choices.
Numbers thread is just upset that she won't bring Gura or Ina numbers.
Then again, Bae has more of a fanbase in JP prime-time so, who knows... no it definitely won't be Gura numbers.

>>12377779
>But she's graded on the Hololive curve and mocked as a midget.
People mock Kiara because Myth is just too strong in general, but overall, Kiara is mid-tier in Hololive.
>1.2 mil subs
>Song covers and originals that perform better than 75% of Hololive. Many Holos would love to have as many 1 mil covers/originals as Kiara
>5-7k CCV with 2k floor
Her CCV is meh because of game choice and people who are awake in her timeslot don't like her, but she has explosive potential for 18-20k+ streams with variety content.

noel and lamy come in to fill the night, en management probably gave a heads up to jp management, noel never streams at this time

>>12377902
Doing other things encourages people to support the streamer more. Look at Mori she's the worst streamer in EN but a superchat beast.

>>12377709
wheres hololive median list?

Name - October / September (Gain)
>Gura - 22,336 / 23,657 (-1,321)
>Kronii - 11,514 / 9,694 (+1,820)
>Ina - 9,565 / 10,784 (-1,219)
>IRyS - 9,199 / 8,424 (+775)
>Mori - 8,616 / 9,084 (-468)
>Fauna - 7,941 / 9,755 (-1,814)
>Mumei - 7,904 / 10,622 (-2,718)
>Amelia - 7,004 / 6,503 (+501)
>Baelz - 6,783 / 6,198 (-586)
>Kiara - 6,553 / 7,024 (-471)
>Sana - 3,752 / 5,190 (-1,438)

>>12377709
I was doing a little research since i only know Ars, Mito and Kuzuha in Nijis.
What the hell happened to Yuzuki Roa? She looks like red gura

>>12377779
>But she's graded on the Hololive curve and mocked as a midget.
That's mostly because people are dumb and innumerate.
Here is the combined Top 50 for Hololive and Nijisanji for the month of October (filtered by channels with at least 5 streams, sorry Empress Ayame).

With her stats for October Kiara would make into the Top 10 streamer channel for Nijisanji. She's also in the Top 40 of the combined list.

Even graded on a curve Kiara is AT VERY WORSE mid tier.

>>12375039
based nimu

>>12377902
That was kind of the good part of Hololive's transition into non-stream revenue.
A big criticism the Niji JP fans had in mid 2020 was that the top branch of their Vtubers barely streamed anymore, because they were overworked with concerts, sponsorships and other jobs.
On the other hand, apart from the overbooked Aqua, Hololive's spread out those jobs among most members.
There have been pockets like fall 2020 when Kanata barely got to stream, or this month for Suisei, but then you also get people like Watame who still streamed ~100 hours per month while making an album, PVs for all those songs and preparing a solo live show.
Those mostly being "2nd sting" as far as streaming goes. Unless they have health issues, Pekora, Miko, Subaru and Korone always stream even during those busy weeks.

>>12378626

Wow, 38 streams for Luna. Did she ever stream this much in a month before? Well, good for her anyway.

>>12378576
>Baelz - 6,783 / 6,198 (-586)
?
Think this was supposed to be a +, or are they inverted?

>>12378626
Hololive Main Ch, Marine and Ayame aren't included and yet it's still 32Holos/18Nijis

I'm not baiting or shitposting, but i never knew Holos dominates too much.

>>12378319
Well, Noel usually starts game streams at 8-9AM, so it's not that far away.
Lamy has her morning stream about then too,

>>12378887
yeah its a + but watev when are the holos getting a cool-looking graph? how come nijis get the cool stuff

The only numbers that matter are that Watame has streamed nearly 30 hours this week even though she took a 3 day break this week.

>>12378943
4 Nijisanji vtubers that average 10k+ vs 14 Hololive vtubers that average 10k+

>>12378626
Towa.... what a shameful display

>>12379042
I'd make it if I had any aesthetic sense or could use gimp in anyway.

>>12379042
If you believe enough, you can make it anon.

But seriously, it would be way easier with 1/3rd of people, even with all the other branches, just need to gather the images.

>>12379042
Holos already have a lot of sites though, but i do wonder why is this nijisite not listed here?

Hololive
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://twitter.com/holo_data
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://mipacd.github.io/chat-stats/excl-chat.html
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html

Nijisanji
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings

>>12379145
hey dont blame her if marine and ayame were there then towapi wouldnt even have to appear

>>12377709
It'd be interesting to see a Holochart in this manner with the same number ranges.

>>12378626
>>12378872
>>12378943
Here is the complete list for October 2021. Here are some takes

1) AkiRose outranks Matsuri
2) Towa outranks all of Edengumi
3) Moona outranks all of NijiEN
4) Selen, Suo Sango and Bora Nun are all on the very edge of HoloJP
5) Astel outranks all of NijiEN except Selen and (by a very little margin) Elira
6) Bora Nun outranks every Holostar but the 3rd highest KR (Ban Hada) is outranked by every Holostar

>>12378626
Will Ayame even appear in here? The damn girl almost never streams lmao

enschizochama...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-c-mj8xVKg

>>12379421
Empress Ayame, plz

>>12379391
Thank you very much for this!
btw do you use JST Time?

how do we stop the blue women

>>12379181
NTA but I got this far before giving up. Centering text seems like a nightmare.

>>12379336
I'm sorry rpr san

>>12379391
wow, thank you anon!

>>12379803
>btw do you use JST Time?
Yes.

>>12379905
Don’t bother doing it by hand. I could do it automatically and may even do it tomorrow.

>>12379799
Ohh shit where are my manners, i'm sorry Empress Ayame
>>12379893
Didn't Mori already passed Pekora? It seems Rabbit still want to hold on to her silver medal

>>12379391
Nijisanji dominates that thumbnail. I can barely see the yellow and orange.

By volume Nijisanji does win.

>>12380105
ₙᵢⱼᵢcₒₑₚ

>>12380206
>would you rather have 50 $20 bills or 150 $10 bills

>>12380255
That would be an apt comparison if all public data didn’t point out on the opposite direction: >>12377662, >>12377712, >>12377763, >>12377662,
>>12360831

>>12380338
>SCs are the only revenue stream

>>12371998
Hey dude, get that money. The real numbers.

>>12375136
just checked, its a couple of mentions with the obligatory 'not that i know anything'
https://youtu.be/eAHD5uny1DQ
somewhere around 1:33:50 to 1:34:10

>>12380369
you are right, good thing sponsors are chooshing hololive too

>>12380461
It's even and Nijisanji gets more japanese ones. Some convention in Saginaw and a shitty korean cookie gacha isn't at Nijisanji level.

>>12380369
I am not claiming that. There is no evidence that contradicts the publicly available data tho.
It also genuinely doesn’t look like revenue scales linearly with the number of streamers, that’s preposterous, to imply one Hajime contributes as much to Nijisanji bottom line as one Kuzuha.

>>12380570
>nijisanji level
you mean the shitty mobile games? you are right that's a really low level

>>12380614
We have no documented proof Nijisanji is top heavy.

>>12372500
Eh I assume those are karaokes? That is supposed to be their main content so getting a few out there should be fine.

>>12380570
>It's even and Nijisanji gets more japanese ones.
LOL

>>12380415
maybe Nenetradamus was right after all

>>12380692
This is a sad line of discussion, resembles a person clinging to the belief he’s still wealthy while trying to stave off the repo men evicting him from his home.

There are people in this thread capable of putting forward a case showing that Nijisanji is a great company and financially viable in the local and foreign market.
That person is not you, please stop defending Nijisanji, you’re doing an awful job

>>12378610
It's a complicated story. Roa and Meiro had an incident. Roa initially was seen as the bad guy but she ended up being the victim. And by that I mean in the eyes of the fans, since in the eyes of Anycolor, Meiro was the one who broke contracts.

>>12380105
Another one added to the list

This is doing great. Interesting to note that the growth has been pretty stable without the "dead window" that affected Kuzuha yesterday.

>>12378943
Imagine your surprise when you look at the entire industry and see that Hololive and Nijisanji take up the space of most of it and the two basically have their own monopoly. React, 774, Noripro, Vspo and other agencies in JP are way too distant of them.

>>12380937
>but roa ended up being the victim
nope, both were retards and deserved it

>>12380949
>without the "dead window" that affected Kuzuha yesterday.
Both in the live streaming CCV growth and the VOD views growth, when a certain threshold of rate of growth is met, Youtube “stops the count” and check for improprieties

>>12380949
it is somehow beating mori's Graveyard

>>12381025
I agree with this one

>>12380949
Wonder what new sets, props, 11 new costumes and rigs, music, art, MV etc cost all together. Five figures easy. Even 3D animation is usually 10-15k/minute if they make the assets for you too, though I suspect they got a modest fan discount

>>12380687
.... you know that most of hololive sponsorship are also shitty mobile games right?

>>12381028
There was no hard freeze for Kuzuha, which is what that "check for improprieties" usually entails, it was simply Japan (and SEA) going to bed and having no EOP audience.

>>12381134
I know you clearly know shit

>>12381058
Graveyard is basically a good song that’s a collab with literal who’s (no disrespect to BV but they had 50k subs before the collab. Mori’s has multiple streams with more ccv than they have subs) and a minimal MV

This is a full gen collab with a fully animated Mv full of fan service. It was never a contest. Catchy song too

>>12375039
>4 members of Council in the top 25
HUUUUUUUURRRR /vt/ led me to believe that Council was a flop. Could /vt/ have lied to me!!!!!

>>12380937
What's intriguing for me is that Roa didn't graduate and yet she is still nowhere to be found (its been a year according to her fans)

And there's a trivia in the site
>"On 17 March 2019, in collaboration with MapleStory, she streamed with Otogibara Era and Suzuhara Lulu playing MapleStory 2 together.[2] She then streamed MapleStory M the following days after."
Lulu and Era graduated and Roa is MIA. Damn i wouldn't want Holos to do collabs of this game

>>12381337
MapleStory... it's been.... too long.

>>12375039
I'm an arslander, literally never heard Nimu's voice

>>12381337
Hmmm. And JP6 rumors floating already. Would it be worth the shitstorm? For any of them? Has to be tempting. Did Lulu face any backlash or was she just too small?

>>12381672
lol. Imaging if Lulu, Roa, and Gibara manages to make it.

I doubt Lulu makes it in tho. She doesn't seem to want to go back to vtubing, plus she already has stalker problems that Cover won't want ot deal with.

Getting Roa is a win though.

>>12381672
>And JP6 rumors floating already.
All because Miko said she might split sports fes into 2 days next time because of too many participants?
There's always the chance JP6 drops next week, but come on.
0 chance Lulu joins anyways if her issue with Anycolor was stalkers.

>>12381672
Lulu didn’t, she just went to facecam streaming like nothing happened.
Gibara got absolutely shit on.

IF NijiEN could collab with the big JP livers (management agrees, they can pay the collab fees, etc) do you think the stream would be a big hit or just average? Let's say with either HSKW or Mito.

>>12381764
>She doesn't seem to want to go back to vtubing
because she made a mistake joining nijis instead holo, with holo she'll have the family she wanted for so long and ofc more idol stuff for her!

>>12381778
Why is Gibara hated now?

>>12381824
The EOPs in the NijiEN fandom don’t know shit about NijiJP.

You anons surely know that Roa is still releasing voice packs regularly, right?

>>12381824
>HSKW or Mito
Not top streamer, with kuzuha on other hand.. see selen with kanae, need to collab with manjisanji not nijisanji

>>12381848
Because when she graduated she said she was quitting vtubing for something else she wanted to do in life, but she came back as a jpgtuber.

>>12381840
You clearly don't know lulu if you think she wants to do idol shit.
>>12381824
Man you really insist with that shit of collab fee huh? Amazing what this place does. Same level of the "sasaki bullied Luna".
Also, Kanae, Mayuzumi, Oliver, Chigusa and Sukoya had collabs with EN. Kanae had 3 times with Selen.

>>12381892
She is indeed still lauching voice packs. She's just not streaming. I guess at this point she's going to be like the ghost who doesn't stream since 2019.

Selen is the only nijiEN that knows what the fuck she's doing. She's honestly wasted on them.

>>12382167
>Getting mad at rrats
NGMI

>>12382091
Why do they always lie like that... it just make them look worse. It always bother me how those things happen, including on graduations where the vtuber just come back at another company.

>>12382222
> Selen is the only EN who knows what she's doing
> Millie did it first weeks ago
Either you are a holofag, a retarded dragoon or both.

>>12382222
>giving leeches a pass
>know what's she's doing
also thanks, now every cunt will demand getting featured on related oshi channel

>>12382167
The list grows if you add the one time when Elira was watching Koshien with Belmond and others, Finana with that FF14 stream too.

>>12370849
Twitter is social media for Artists. Iirc they use it to look for potential up and comers or for building connections.
If you watched that one Trash Taste episode where they interview a legit industry animator, he has said that they have hired people through Twitter

>>12382288
Holochads dont follow Hololite midgets

>>12382249
The alternative was telling the truth and saying she's quitting because it's a black company. Better not make enemies and leave on "good" terms.

>tfw kiara Minecraft practices for sport festival not getting 10k
She played alone?

>>12371579
No. Before graduation announcement rushia is in a 3month win streak against coco and have around 50k-60k SC lead.

>>12382249
The industry is full of menhera.

Did Mori pass Pekora yet?

>>12382222
I sure hope Kiara doesn't try and copy this idea.

>>12382288
>retarded dragoon
redundancy

>>12382522
>>12382288
Only know them because of this place but i'll never watch, sub, sc, member on any Nijis.
Call me tribalist but i only care for Holos.

>>12382222
You already made one thread and got bullied for it Nijinigger. Fuck off

>>12381776

Don't think I've heard of any issues with stalkers recently for Hololive, guess they're doing a good job now?

>>12382222
Good way to set yourself up for a shitstorm later on.
This is basically an official endorsement.

>>12382697
Based

>>12382091
what niji talent was Aloe accused of spreading rumors about? Was it Gibara?

>>12382545
You are delusional, I get it.

>>12382249
Maybe she just failed at what she wanted to do and went back to what worked.

As a holofag I want nothing to do with anyone who has been in nijisanji or has said anything about nijisanji. Those mentally ill fuckers aren't going to ruin another one.

>>12382697
ULTRA BASED HOLOCHAD

>>12382825
There were so many rrats about Aloe i have no idea what was true or not and i forgot most of the rrats at this point.

>>12382825
Kudo Chitose iirc
Aloe still has antis going after her.

>>12382852

>>12382954
Luna was a mistake and we all know it. As a proud matsurisu I can't help but prey for her graduation every night.

>>12382852

>>12381337
>its been a year according to her fans
Does she still have fans?
even shiba doesnt have many anymore

Ina, your numbers...

>>12383089
its either holo projects or Christmas event commissions

>>12383069
https://twitter.com/hashtag/ロアート
Plenty.

>>12383163
Ina’s never really slowed down on her priestess duties, I’d bet it’s both.

>>12382597
Nah, at that time she was winding things down already and doing less supacha readings and shit. Even then I don't think there would've been any period at all where she wasn't in the lead it wasn't for Playboard not counting the freechats right. One of them was what, fifteen million?

>Holo > Waktaverse > KR indies > NijiKR
Niji is always last place...

>>12383249
a good design can take you long ways

https://twitter.com/_omocat/status/1455323771523510282
Thoughts?

The difference is sickening

>>12383540
Holy shit this is a big one.

>>12382697
Dangerously Based

>>12383540
omocat is a shop?
i tought it was an artist

>>12382988
Matsuri collabs more with Nijisanji than Luna.

As an honorary Nijisanji, Matsuri should graduate Holo already and go to Niji. We would take Toko as a trade.

>>12383341
.... this is just a bunch of clippers, retard.
> Niji is always last place...
I didn't know only hololive and nijisanji existed.

>>12383673
They made Omori and they also do a bunch of clothing and accessories stuff.

>>12382988
>Nijisanji hater to a strong degree you don't even want to watch anybody who associates with them
>As a proud matsurisu
>Nijisanji simp and fangirl Matsuri
oh no no no...

>>12383735
They're talking about the KR vtubing scene retard.

>>12382697
funny how you faggots were criticizing nijiniggers for that earlier today and now three retards agree on it kek 774 winning yet again. Just wait until a few years when they take the space of both.

>>12383795
Retard, learn to interpret. The image has a ton of clippers. And the statement about nijisanji being last also is wrong when there's more than just two agencies in this market.

>>12383540
AAAAAAA I'M BUYING ALL OF THEM

>>12379374
Why you guys don't pick this template and make it for hololive?

>>12383540
nijis merch>holos
be it quantities and qualities

>>12383874
Retard, the clippers represent the general popularity in KR of the companies/indies shown in that image.

>>12383540
This is really good. Great way to get Hololive merch into the hands of western fans without them having to pay the outrageous shipping costs to ship from Japan. Not to mention the 6 month wait.

>>12383798
>774
That was random. Are you perhaps 774 schizo?

Risu is doing her NNN series again. Incline incoming.

>>12384031
nothing more quality than voice packs and phone screen wallpapers eh?

>>12384031
I know this is bait but niji merch is non existent

>>12369207
Some trivia

>>12384159
Can't even sell them all, kek.

>>12383089
I have a feeling that this is going to a very low number month for Hololive overall

>>12382771
One of these clippers just has to fuck up and Selen will take a little hit. Not directly but still.

>>12384120
People forget that Risu was once out performing Moona. She is a popular Holo (especially for an ID) its just that she is lazy as fuck and never streams so fans kind of tuned out. If she started regularly putting out content again I can easily see her inclining in a big way. Doing a fan favorite series like NNN again along with her new voice actor thing is a big step in the right direction. Lets go Risu.

>>12383089
She had a REALLY busy past week. Let her get some hush money.

>>12382988
And you call others mentally ill.

>>12384031
You can make that argument for nijiJP/ID, but there isn't any nijien merch beyond voice packs.

>>12384369
Not even birthday merch...

>>12383540
Didn't Omocat have issues with their Omori deliverables? I hope they don't get delays on this.

Mumei doing a study stream and labeling it as ASMR.
Smart girl.

NijiEN numbers.

>>12384353
>hating a slimey, two faced bitch who abandons everything that loves her
>being mentally ill

>>12384041
Yes.
>>12384159
Anon I looked at the JP/ID store and they have it. Only EN doesn't have it yet.

>>12384602
>male wave is actually just Gwelu
based

>>12384602
>dont starve
are they having mods at elast

>>12384425
they probably only will get it next year, among other stuff. EN stuff is harder to set up than JP and ID where it's just one country. Same reason why hololive have the same problem.

>>12384738
No mods.

>>12384602
Goddamit. Stop doing multiPOV collabs ya dum bitches! Is everyone from NijiEn so strapped for money that they have to hussle this much..

>>12384602
People listening to someone study is getting 4 times the views as the entire branch is...

>>12384794
is already a debuff and they just make it worse by playing vanilla

>>12384887
Nijikek always losing

>>12383540
thank you for brining this to my attention

A couple months ago I wanted to see what the effect on adding new gens had on superchats both for the individual talents as well as the branch as a whole.

Here is the data so far.

>>12384738
holoEN mods.

>10k for mumei study stream
>beating entire wave 3 nijien maybe even nijien as a whole this time
Wtf

>>12384031
C O P E
S E E T H E

>>12385254
reminds me of fubuki's void stream.

>>12384794
>>12384738
Talking about mods. Selene was asking for l4d2 mods for a collab
Did she get anything?
Part of HoloEN popularity also comes from the constant feedback loop and use of community content on their streams to promote themselves and others.

>>12385348
I thought mods were a no go just for weird legal reasons?

>>12383089
Ina got the sponsorship!

>>12383089
>>12385444
OH you are right anon. I thought Colorful stage just sponsors Niji? What happened nijibros?

>>12385254
Even if everyone from NijiEn streamed, I doubt they'd beat Mumei since their audience cap is still 6-7k

>>12385254
I don't even hear any sounds, wtf is this LMAO
why am i still watching

>>12385444
i'm curious if holos are paid the same amount as nijis or not. There's a chance that gura also got the sponsorship though.

>>12385085
I wonder if the new membership messages really had an effect on SCs.

>>12385386
you need the developer permission to play mods, yes

>>12385386
It's on a per game basis.
Also a KFP is the one who made the mods for DST.

>>12385581
Sponsorships like that often have explicit ccv/views/download incentives

>>12384776
Hololive overcame that problem though. Shipping might be a bitch, but there's still plenty of holoen merch. If merch really is so central to nijisanji then they should have found a way to make it happen as well.

>>12385598
thatd mean the number of memberships possibly went up, but we'll never know that

>>12385581
I sure hope Gura did. She still loves Miku, and this would actually fit her.
And holos are definitely paid more or else Cover is doing something very wrong.

So, does loli l2d model increase chances of chuuba's success? What do the numbers say?

>>12385598
Moonrunes and Numbers hurts my eyes.

I swear after my board exams i'll study japanese

>>12385554
Turn on some audio enhancing shit like Dolby Atmos

>>12385851
Use yandex for it. It is just company names.

>>12385848
There are more actual lolis in Nijisanji than Hololive.
Go have a look at their numbers.