/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>1234567
rawr

>>1234567
>>1233683

>>1234567
A

>>1234567
>Gura is reclining
>Ai is inclining
It's over for the shark, she got too arrogant.

Prob not

>>1234567
Nope. She will most likely remain at the top as long as she wants to.

>>1234567
People thought that about Kaguya Luna, I don't think it's happening until it happens.
t. chumbud

>>1234567
shark

>>1234567
Me

>>1234567

>>1234567
cute shark

>>1234567
Annoying Orange counts as a vtuber so that'll never happen. Pewdiepie also did at one point so "of all time" will never happen for Gura. Also this >>1234683
Gura has the fakest fans of all time, don't watch or pay her as much as other fanbases do for their oshi.

>>1234567

>>1234853
>Annoying Orange counts as a vtuber so that'll never happen.
No it doesn't, in any capacity.

>>1234567
a

Honestly I feel like when she becomes the top, she’s going to constantly be alone. Won’t be surprised if she graduates from loneliness and or boredom.

>>1238538
When a vtuber is fired, what happens to their YouTube account? Does YouTube enter into a contract with Hololive and rip the account away from the worker when they are fired?

>>1234567
Mori could, if she really took the shit seriously

>>1234567
Management can and will. e z p z

>>1234957
How new? :^)

>>1234567
No, she's too unique. She's basically a perfect storm of compounding attributes that no one else can emulate in one single person. That's why even before joining hololive she had another youtube channel which already had more subs than the #1 holo at the time. Good luck finding another one of those who would fit into hololive culture. If there were someone talented and charismatic enough to dethrone Gura who isn't already a celebrity that doesn't need a vtubing career, we would know about them, they'd need to be an indie with like over a million subs already. It's never going to happen, at least not for a long, long time.

>>1239062
How new are you, election tourist?

>>1238820
Mori has done the most to boost her numbers between song releases and featuring on a well-known podcast, and Gura has done the absolute least and literally sandbags herself on purpose because she doesn't even want to be the biggest, and still has almost double Mori's following. You're deluded.

>>1239516
Late 2012. I am not on /pol/.

>>1239552
You mean 2016, like every other underage retard posting orange shit here because the mere concept of VTubers is offensive to them.

She'll dethrone herself, its only a matter of time sadly

>>1239589
Never posted in an AO thread, either. I am just not offended to him. I just kek'd at the fact that you felt the need to deny something so commonplace here.
Also, why did you think that was a serious question? Was it the lack of an /s? Did you think my spoiler was some February reddit meme? Didn't you do your virtual divegrass reps?

If Nyanners joined Holo EN Gen 2, she would probably eclipse Gura.
She won't ever join though, since she's in Vshoujo.

>>1239679
A number of criminals plead not guilty to crimes they did commit, whatever defense that's supposed to entail can be discarded. Claiming you aren't new while defending off-topic newfag spam and using newfag lingo like "kek" outs you clearly. Before claiming something is being denied, research the definition of VTuber first, it would enlighten you if you had a brain.

>>1239795
Lol not a chance. Guras old channel was already bigger than Nyanners.

>>1234567
it'll take pedobait to take down pedobait

>>1239817
Actual election tourist detected. "Kek" predates the frog association by years.

>>1240097
Origin of everything predates its widespread use you fucking retard. "Kek" is 2010s newfag speak used by election tourists such as yourself.

I do think some people (Mori, just by output) will catch up or even overtake Gura, but not anytime soon, and I don't think Gura will lose subs or monthly SCs.
>>1239795
I don't see that happen either. She would have to throw away a 10+ year old persona for ... what, exactly? Less creative freedom? Having to distance herself from Lewdtubers and her old VShojo friends? Probably getting criticized for being a traitor to indies because she ran to the biggest corporation? It'd make no sense even from a numbers perspective. But then again, I'm pretty sure I would have said that last part about HER as well.
>>1239817
What does any of this have to do with our chuubas or this thread?

>>1240163
It has to do with this faggot spreading lies
>>1234853

>>1240194
>>1153266

>>1240301
Yes, that's an off-topic thread. Well done, you can navigate the catalog.

>>1240154
>it only qualifies as widespread when it leaves the site and shows up on my favorite subreddits and twatter accounts
Absolute state of arrogant newniggers.

>>1240521
Using strawman quotes also outs you as an election tourist.

>>1240535
>strawman
ah, a fellow gentlesir

>>1240619
No argument, as expected.

>>1240319
That's General Annoying Orange to you, maggot.

>>1240694
It's actually you swinging from a noose.

>>1240648
Your argument is that anon using slang that was popular site-wide in the early 2010s means he's an election tourist because /pol/ ran off with it in 2016. You never had an argument. Some shitposters came and posted a cringey old youtube channel to bait actual /vt/ users and you actually developed permanent butthurt over it.

>>1240733
Which is off-topic, unlike the /oag/. For what board-relevant topic are you here, again?

>>1240809
Yes, because anyone still using it is an election tourist, otherwise they would've been perceptive enough to realise that said term was cancer early on. Trying to ruin every single website you go on by spamming garbage is worth getting irate over. I know you have fun pissing in public pools but other people don't like swimming in them after.
>>1240886
"/oag" is off-topic actually. You being dead isn't off-topic because you're too deceased to be a cancer to the internet any more.

>>1240917
>noooo you can only use the ebin memes I say are in vogue
Anon can say kek all he wants, and I can post rage comics. Your autistic asspain is why anons still bother to post AO, so I guess I should thank you for keeping what you hate alive.

>>1241029
>nooooo- strawman
I said using a strawman quote alone outs you as an election tourist but that "NOOOOOO-" strawman template that's been spammed by newfags like you might mean you're even more recent than an election tourist, probably 2018/2019. The reason you post it is because you despise the concept of VTubers and want to undermine the medium through posting the filth you do. You aren't introspective enough to have any justification for it.

>>1239795
>actually believing this
Nyanners was already in talks with her friends to form VShojo by the time the auditions came out. Besides, as >>1240163 said, she wouldn't have wanted to limit herself to the idol thing.
And Blue Nyanners was already bigger than her even with the random stream hours and the constant sandbagging. RIP Blue Nyanners, even the Internet Historian confirmed her death.

>>1241097
No, anon, I started posting last week.
If you stopped your typical newfag's tryhard oldfag LARP, you'd realize how fun it is to embrace the latest cancer. The newfag influx is too great, none of them lurk before posting, there's no board culture left to erode.
AO never remotely threatened /vt/'s real purpose and was always an autism filter. If a few anons like you weren't around to throw a tantrum every time it was brought up, it would have died within the day.

>>1241097

>>1241219
Also not surprising, any newfags who weren't cancer wouldn't admit to being new, let alone actively being proud of ruining every website they end up on like a parasite. There was no board culture here because you retarded election tourists started spamming your off-topic children's live-action webseries out of spite immediately,
There is no fun in being a cancerous plague unless you're underage, which is clearly your case. /vt/'s real purpose is discussing VTubers, annoying orange isn't a VTuber, fairly simple.

>>1241112
>And Blue Nyanners was already bigger than her even with the random stream hours and the constant sandbagging.
It makes no sense whatsoever to me how Blue Nyanners got popular. Not to spit on her grave, I just want to understand low production value, low consistency, low quantity beats one of the most popular Twitch streamers who is better in all those departments, also has shitposts everyone and their mom has heard of, and doesn't shy away from lewdposting. I don't even understand why I cared more about Blue Nyanners than I ever cared about Nyanners.

>>1241325
You like Nyanners. You're not exactly a paragon of taste yourself. No authority to judge.

>>1241325
Because sen's content was more original and creative and had more personality besides just "haha popular song but LOLI", and she had an even cuter voice.

>>1241302
You can call me a 13-year-old who started posting yesterday, but at the end of the day Annoying Orange is here to stay.

>>1241325
Her curse of success. Wasn't she hinting about that in her latest streams before ending it all? She literally self-isekai'd to live a slow-life and is now the most known of the land.

>>1241398
I can say a lot of things because everything I posted in this thread was correct. Your closing statement that x cancer is "here to stay" isn't a revelation, parasites leech off a host until it's sufficiently drained of all that they can exploit, after that you'll look for a new host medium/interest/website to become an active detriment to. That is your mental ceiling, a net-detriment to everything you engage with.

>>1241325
at least senzawa wasn't a hypocrite unlike pink cat y'know

>>1241481
Sounds like a cope invented by a spastic young man who physically can't not reply to bait.

>>1241515
>cope
Case in point, you can barely function without another instance of twitterspeak in every subsequent post, you've supplanted the entirety of your already near non-existent vocabulary with the same derivative list of newfag slang. You haven't defended a single statement and got your psyche summarised with zero-effort.

>>1241325
Charisma is a mysterious thing.

>>1241563
Not the autist, but /oag/ is literally the trollface of /vt/. And watching you get filtered is glorious.

>>1241640
You mean the wojak of /vt/, the context of trollface and its usage is lost on you, which is why you don't understand your own comparison.
Take your own advice and get out of /vt/ with the rest of the election tourist cancer and go back to /pol/, or better yet just leap off a high-rise building and save the internet your presence.

>>1241383
You may actually be right about the personality part. I guess it's similar to how Haachama's botched lore streams were so extremely soulful and kino.
>>1241437
I know that a lot of people on here think she seemed rather depressed back then. I haven't seen much of her streams, mostly the shitposts (and by far not all of them either). I wouldn't call her the most known however. That title still goes to Kizuna AI, though I reckon she's past her prime.
>>1241595
I guess charisma could also be it. So how does one exude charisma to the point it's a bigger selling point than what most chuubas achieve through talent, creative work, and being as convenient to watch through schedules and production value as possible?

>>1241758
>how does one exude charisma to the point it's a bigger selling point than what most chuubas achieve through talent, creative work, and being as convenient to watch through schedules and production value as possible?
Unironically memes. Besides charisma, she also has a knack for memetic content, even when she tries to hold herself back.

wait until vtuber market matures in india

>>1239516
you sounds like a soi boi libtard

>>1239552
only red dit fags try to make it seem like the different boards of 4chan are like different websites. Its all 4chan and it all hates niggers. Deal with it libtards

>>1234567
>Meme loli, the first in the EN market
Just wait for more popular channels to come up with vtubers, they'll eclipse hololive with USA-targeted characters and hololive can go back to being a peaceful small indie company

>>1239415
how does gura have charisma? she's almost as unapologetically boring as ame. she's another bland skank hiding behind an anime avatar

I don't think the shark can ever be topped.

>>1245351
>Ame
>Boring
Are we even watching the same person?

>using libtard unironically
where did these niggers come from?

>>1234567
Nice digits

Who is the fastest growing holo after Gura? Mori? The only way I could see Mori getting close is if one of her songs blows up harder than RIP and OWTH and Gura somehow starts reclining. That or an even bigger anomaly from a future EN gen surpassing her

>>1255204
You do realize that subs don't really mean much when they come from the west tho, right? Kiara already explained, that for example the japs really think through who do they sub for and actually watch those, while EN's target audience mostly consists of people who sub for everybody for any reason even if after that they don't watch a single stream or video from them. This is why when you compare the view numbers from Gura, those aren't nearly as good as her sub count would indicate. But if we're just comparing numbers with loads of dead subs included, sure, she probably won't be dethroned, but is there a point in this kind of numberfagging?

>>1255348
What exactly do you consider dead subs? In Mori's case, it might look like she has many dead subs since she doesn't get that many stream viewers for someone with her sub count, but what about the people that subscribe to her for her music? Her music videos get millions of views and their views keep increasing everyday, which in turn makes her earn more money due to ad revenue. Are those dead subs too? Gura also has more than a few vods with over 1 million views so I don't think live viewers really matter that much if people are still tuning into their vods.

>>1255204
>Mori?
Yes. If anything, she's currently on pace to pass up Fubuki, Pekora, and Korone.

>>1255747
Yea, too many people fail to factor video views, and focus too much on live stream audiences. YouTube cares whether videos are being viewed, regardless of when people do so.

>>1234567
Gura > Nyanners
Fuck that fake ass nigger cat.

>>1234567
Anyone you say?

>>1256519
>pink cat bad
yeah, im thinking based

>even Kiara tells Gura to stop holding back her cuteness

>>1234567
incredible luck and dead subs, thats all she has

>>1241698
top kek it must be painful to be you :^)

>>1270314
It's painful to be using the internet for 17 years and seeing it get progressively more inundated with retards while seeing the degradation in real-time, so you're right in that regard. Hopefully you become perceptive enough in the future to come to the same conclusion.

you just got baited by someone saying annoying orange is a vtuber. stop wishing for anyone to kill themselves, have fun instead
yeah i also know the internet for almost as old as that but my case is very specific anyway that doesnt matter

>>1234567
HAACHAMA, bitch

ive never watched her videos. one of the least interesting vtubers.

she isnt a weeb anyway. shes just a reddit memester and just use some japanesee materials to jump on the internet trend

I can be a pussy and reply to someone indirectly without quoting them too, it's really amazing how you can do that.

>>1234567
CHECKED

>>1240163
>>1241112
I just said Nyanners wouldn't join Hololive because she's in Vshoujo, you shitheads

>>1276971
Which is why I said "I don't see it happen, EITHER" and then elaborated on why I agree. (You)'s don't mean I disagree with you, so what is the problem here? The other post took the first half of your post at face value to make a point about why it probably wouldn't happen, but that's not my post. Also,
>I just said
My post you are responding to was already more than a day old. I don't think this was worth bumping.
>>1272636
>have fun.
Unironically the best thing you can have here. You're doing everything right, anon.
For me it's also been 17 years but from my perspective, 4chan was never good. Just because you are the head of the human centipede doesn't mean you continue to produce shit. Only now it's also responsible for a lot of mainstream fandom culture and meme culture.

It's worth mentioning that 4chan was once good, and your endless apparent resource of cynicism to deflect any accusations of actively, deliberately making it and the rest of the internet worse are inexcusable. The internet in the 2000s was an infinitely better place to be, irony hadn't yet infected everything and ruined sincere content, original content and memes were being used instead of the same hideous pepe/wojak edits spammed over and over, politics wasn't forced into every discussion, each community was segregated and air-tight so you could always find a niche interest or website that you wouldn't have to fear being actively undermined by normalfags, and the quality of discourse was much higher due to forum culture dominating rather than social media "culture".

>>1278698
>4chan was once good

>>1234567
>will anyone be able to dethrone her?
Yes.

>>1279853
Yes, it was. In fact, it was excellent. I know it's easier to denounce the quality of something than back it up and the post-cynicism post-post-ironic post-brain cell internet epoch we're currently in doesn't approve of stating that some things did indeed used to be good, but that doesn't change the facts. Anyone with a brain who was there for the 2000s internet would realise its infinite superiority.

>>1282193
>in b4 longcat
While a lot of memes became concentrated here, but a cesspool of shit wasn't a good thing. The level of retardation was off the charts back then.

>>1234567
Given that plenty of YouTube channels have double or more than Gura, it's doable.

>>1282771
Definitely.

>>1234723
the folks behind Luna ran into legal issues and negotiations fell though. she aint coming back sadly

>>1234567
Depends on what EN gen 2 is like. If it's another famous anime meme person where it's obvious by the voice who it is they might surpass her. Dakooters pls

>>1234567
Very cute digits

>>1234567
i do have to wonder if she may regret being a vtuber. before this she had hits reaching up to 25M views and could do it whenever she wanted to. now she has to stress, albeit over nothing, but still she could easily go back if she wanted to.

>>1285516
What if Gura starts experimenting with video shorts of her own?

Gura sucks to watch because her entire vtuber personality is fake. The fake giggles piss me off and annoy me.

>>1285806
if she starts making short meme songs again the link to her past will become suuuuper clear

>>1239795
>If Nyanners joined Holo EN Gen 2
Not a chance, both Antis from Japan and Antis from the West would cancel her because of her yab stances/past. Plus she panders to those retarded vtweeter normie trash and Hololive definitely doesn't see that as a good thing. Culturally, she does not fit well with Hololive or with Japanese weebs in general. Even eceleb garbage like Pokimaine would be a better person to hire than her. Everyone would lose faith in Hololive if anything like that happens.

>>1286016
She told the members she's thinking about it already, both short non-professional covers and short videos.

>>1238713
In case of Hololive their entire YouTube channel gets deleted. Most likely Hololive owns the YouTube channel by contract with the vtuber and their decision has always been deletion so far. You don't need an extra agreement with YouTube itself for that

>>1238713
Just look at Aloe's account. You'll see nothing