/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

I KNEEL

KNEEL MOTHERFUCKERS

>>12337963
ALL HAIL AMELIA WATSON

HEIR TO THE THRONE.

>>12337963
she's so creative... using money to pay other people to do things... god i wish i was her...

She streamed 25+ hours on top of working on this.
No break days
Myth as a whole is too high effort compared to other holo gens.

La chica de la crativiad

>HoloJP status : eternally mogged
Explain youselves, now.

>>12338537
>stan lee wasn't creative because there were other dudes reee he didn't deserve billions

>>12337963

>>12337963
ame constantly raising the bar. eternal kneel

>>12337963

Remember the times when people wondered why she is in Hololive claiming she does so little or how she doesn't even sing?

ABSOLUTELY BLOWN THE FUCK OUT.
Ame is shaping herself up as the core of Myth.

Ame will probably not be too active ending November, early December. And then we'll repeat the cycle of schizos rrating it up again. No more taking the bait.

>>12338777
She was always the core, always doing work for the group behind the scene.

>>12338642
Yes.

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH QUIERO TENER SEXO CON AMELIA WATSON

>>12337963
How are JP ever going to able to compete?

>>12337963
We simply could not compete

>>12338642
>comparing someone who actually did the work originally to someone who paid for the work originally

>>12337963
I kneel.

>>12337963
FOREVER AND ALWAYS

I kneel to her
Thanks Ame for this amazing stream

>>12337963
Thanks Amelia

>>12339286
>stan lee
>did the work
ohnononi

itt: low iq niggas

>>12337963
Never stopped kneeling.

>>12337963
First of all I will not allow anyone to utter the name “Amelia Watson” without the title “Sheikh”

How are you fucking retards impressed by this? Seriously? I don't get it. Is this what Hololive has become? Is that all it takes to entertain you? Holy shit.

Been loving Ame since she supported Kiara during the Sparks shit.

>>12337963

>>12339550
Why are you so butthurt?

>>12337963

>>12339550
Seething tranny.

>>12339550
>Is that all it takes to entertain you?
My oshi having fun with her friends? Yes.

Fine, I'll masturbate to her

>>12339550
Wow, you're desperate for attention.

>>12339550
They're not. They're pretending to be because teacucks are desperate for a W.

>>12339189
Is there anything they've done in the past that's similar to this?
Im trying to think back but i mostly remember streams from Mid 2020s

i don't need knees anymore

>>12339688
I'm butthurt at the fact that Hololive used to produce quality content. And now we have fucking newfags supporting shit content when other streamers have been doing the same stuff daily. What's the point of Hololive anymore?

ILOVE AME!

>>12337963
How could one hold so much creativity.

>>12339550
Seethe harder, my oshi is the best.

Thank you Ame

>>12339952
It's always been enjoying your oshi you faggot. Them dicking around in psudo-3d because the vid has them trapped out of going to Japland to get a real 3d debut is heartwarming. On top of that, it's just cute fun , and if you've got a problem with that, I have no idea why you're here.

>>12339779
>her oshi needs a special stream to get along with her friends

>>12338537
You think she just walked up to these creators, gave them money and said, "Make something."?

>>12340180
Bae legs

>>12337963

>>12338537
Are you from Denmark? Because it sounds like you be living in Copenhagen.

>>12339550
Its another holoredditors overblow a somewhat normal stream

>>12339952
What, you didn't fall in love with the cheap models and elementary school Halloween activities?
It wasn't a bad stream, but holy fuck are some of you faggots easy to impress.

After this I realized that ame would shine much more as a producer than as a vtuber. Give this girl a promotion

>>12338632
they don't have to try because weebs doing their nihonga reps refuse to cut their losses.

>>12339550
>JP chuubas having full concerts and doing shit like putting together a sports festival and having island survival series
>A bunch of girls in VRchat is enough to shake the EN landscape
But if Cyberlive or Tsunderia did this nobody would even make a thread for it.

>>12339582
Sparks shit?

thanks omega for approving this collab

>>12339550
>in Germany we call this attitude "das seethencopen"

>>12339952
Another faggot who thinks effort and worksmanship makes them "deserve" anything.
No one gives a fuck because they haven't convinced me to care about them.
"Boo hoo I put three hundred hours into my artisan handcrafted audience experience and got only 80 viewers, if it was only me I could do it so much better. SO MUCH BETTER"
You could have built a full VR game and people wouldn't give a fuck, because you already failed at the first hurdle.

I kneel creatividad Ame

>>12340627
Seethe harder

>>12340219
>still believing holoen will get 3d
anon... i...

>>12340627
>JP chuubas doing rehearsed concerts VS EN just improvising and going along with the flow having fun

Fixed that for you.

>>12339550

>>12340627
>>12340541
This, I don't get it. It was a fun stream don't get me wrong. But is this what the whole EN group of a multimilion dollars vtuber company can do? How is this anywhere as impressive as the faggots in here are putting it?

>>12340627
>fat weebs praying for EN to never get 3D so JPs still have something over them.

>>12340541
that's more effort than 95% of people here would give, of course they're impressed.

>>12340910
not a truer word was spoken

>>12340727
Never said she didn't deserve it anon. I'm wondering why you guys act like this was the best fucking content she's ever produced?

>>12340627
EN wouldn't stand a chance trying to put together a Hololive-wide event of any kind.
JPs being the senpais means they don't have nearly as much red tape to push through to get things done. Ame would have to beg and plead for months before management would approve of large-scale JPxEN

>>12340627
If they do you should post something like this. In fact they should have a big halloween event right now right?

>>12340644
Ame consoled Kiara after Sparks had issues with release due to Cover fucking some shit up on the back end. Not only did they release it tagged improperly on multiple sites, they also put up the count-down for Irys on the same day. Go back and watch the EN collab that night and see how none of them mention the countdown but talk about Kiara's song a lot and meme it into everything with her to try and give it a boost. A few days later, Kiara mentioned that Ame talked with her privately and made her feel better about the whole situation.
>>12340757
A man can dream. There was a moment where Kiara, Gura, and Mori were sitting next to each other and Mori said
>"I'm gonna say some anime shit"
>"I really hope someday in the future we can do this, looking up at the stars, together in person"
Cheesy as fuck, but none of them had a cam on them or a fully live mic, so she was being pretty fucking genuine.

I will never, ever give her shit for taking time off streaming anymore. She can do whatever the fuck process she needs to do to keep this coming.

>>12340967
If this is not the best single thing Ame has ever done in Hololive then what the fuck is?

>Cover manager damage control ITT
Ame won.

>>12341132
Year celebration was way better than this. This was a lot more goofy, but the tours they gave each other along with the family vacation shakey cam recording style that came from that stream was heart-meltingly sweet and blows this out of the water.

>>12340893
>whole EN group
Ame could have just not spent her money and would have probably earned much more from the streams she would have otherwise done plus a solo Halloween stream.

Ame is the actual manager and leader. The other 'managers' are just drones who get permissions and yell at people who are effectively their superiors

I appreciate the call outs to Haachama in both the level and the music video, honouring her as EN0. Would have been pure kino if they presented the heart on the pedestal, the statue moved to reveal her stood behind it and she joined them for the final parts of the stream.
Hopefully they can get her involved in a future EN collab.

>>12340627
I'll give them a break since this is the best they can do but anons getting excited over VR chat is pretty funny

>>12341092
keep dreaming nigga ayy lmao

>>12340627
You mean jp chuubas enjoying the full support of their organization, compared to en chuubas left hung to dry

>>12341272
It makes schizos mad that Ame can get things done even if she has to pay out of pocket while JPs get another stale concert or amongus collab

>>12341419
Makes schizos mad? I am just a passerby and can see Hololive is for filthy, easily impressed casuals.

>>12340893
Anon if you cannot understand the value of making a kino stream based fully on improvisation and doing things as they go along, then you have no place to even discuss this.
They just took a topic, did as things go and nailed it.
As a content creator this is a level very few people have ever reached and why content creators tend to plan out their streams and videos cause they can't go just let the flow lead them.
This right here was ad lib cranked to the max and you need to learn just what kind of talent it is to be naturally entertaining, in a group it is even more difficult to find that synergy to be entertaining as you let things just unfold as they are.

>>12340893
>But is this what the whole EN group of a multimilion dollars vtuber company can do?
The only thing that matters is that the members get a lot of time to interact on stream. This stream was great at doing that, tons of meme-able moments between all of them.
I really want to know what you think would be a better stream so I can explain to you how you're moronic

>>12341401
HoloMyth could go full rogue and no one would notice shit except Omega crying.

>>12341764
Omegatranny wouldn't even notice either he'd be busy jerking his ego on twitter

>>12341584
Anon, all I saw was a group of friends having fun. I can totally understand why it would be fun to watch, but they didn't put on an oscar worthy performance like you're putting it.

>>12341764
HoloMyth could go full Robotech but they don't have the GUTS.

>>12340627
You are really comparing JPs who have Cover studios to make their shit and 3D models and also some of them even gets patrocined with a bunch of girls without more support than manager's ok?

>>12341897
> Sports festivals
To be honest the sports festival looked like it took more work to prepare than this stream.

>>12341862
just admit that you don't care about anyone in HoloEN, I don't know how you could care about HoloEN and not love every minute of that stream

>>12337963
i didn't watch the streams tonight because i'm hanging with my gf, what happened? what am i in for when i watch the vods? whose POV should i prioritize?

>>12342118
Watch Ame's

>>12339952
>I'm butthurt at the fact that Hololive used to produce quality content
Such as?

Desu I enjoyed this and all the different NijiEN streams too. This Halloween was pretty sweet.

>>12342118
Let's just say that it's worth watching

>>12340541
>What, you didn't fall in love with the cheap models and elementary school Halloween activities?
You're a faggot if you don't think either of those is fun

>>12340464
kek

>>12342202
>Such as
I like this, really goes to show that Hololive hasn't done shit. Asacoco, their shitty original songs? Overrated corporate shit that Holofags eat and regurgitate.

>>12342269

>>12340541
I enjoyed the stream, wasn't impressed by it, but it was fun to watch, but I WAS impressed by the MV for myth or treat. You could tell there was love and SOUL put into that. so many nice touches. Song fit nicely too.

>>12342024
Sports festival is a great event, also Summer festival (Even being 2 minecraft things and also having 40 membera vs 10 also helps) , is not like JPs are brainless, is just that they for their concerts have a lot more help with everything than EN never had

So HoloEN proved that they don't even need Cover's 3D?

>>12337963
I’ve knelt so hard my knees are in the center of the earth. Anyone got a spare set of knees it’s hard as hell to walk like this?

>>12340627
>JP chuubas having full SCRIPTED concerts and doing shit like putting together a SCRIPTED sports festival and having island survival series
>>12340627
>A bunch of girls in IMPROVISED VRchat is enough to shake the EN landscape
Yes

>>12342636
FUCK COVER
FUCK YAGOO

>>12342269
Want shirt

I wonder what the timeline is

Probably started on this like a month ago I'm guessing?

>>12342636
All HoloEN has done is expose JP for being pretty bland.

>>12342716
>SCRIPTED sports festival
Your schizo headcanon said so doesn't make it real, anon.

>>12342958
SEASON 2 BABY!

>>12340893
but the multi-million vtuber company didn't do anything...

>>12340893
>How is this anywhere as impressive as the faggots in here are putting it?
Please understand. EOP board can only watch EN streams and every single JP stream without clips filtered them.

>>12343363
>weebs still coping with their nihonga.

>>12344431
Name one good moment from the stream then.

You never see JP do anything like this because none of them are as creative as Ame.

>>12344724
Korone and Nene are, but the entire JP branch is being held back by their "idol" faggotry.

>>12344724
Here's something interesting. You noticed the blocked part in the reception area? That will be jp portal. All of these are just a core to more holo content including jp senpais.

>muh creativity
>muh best stream
>can't mention a single memorable moment out of the stream.
the absolute state of EN nigger

>>12345189
That's not how streams work retard. You're thinking from the mindset of a clip watcher, where a stream can only be interesting if it has clip moments in it.

>>12340464
yooo

>>12340464
Holy fucking based

>>12345304
Then tell me what's good about it then? Wiggly 3D VRC avatars are just bells and whistles, not the main attraction. If it's just typical 3D streams with inside jokes, chuuba playing around with their avatars, and skits with karaoke and singing then it is no different from JP 3D streams, except this time, you can understand it 100% so your mind tricks you into thinking it's superior.
3D streams are no different than performances and if there is nothing memorable about it then the general level of enjoyment is nothing but a flatline of "okay quality"

>>12345689
Careful anon, please, it was the greatest stream of all time because it came out of Hololive. I could name you at least 2000 moments from that stream that were just straight soooo kino but I won't.

she's cute and/or funny

>>12338537
This is an ame thread, why are you talking about Mori?

>>12340974
allegedly there was a lot of red tape just for the EN x ID MK tourney. there is no way any kind of large EN x JP collab happens from the EN SIDE.

>>12342716
>A bunch of girls in SCRIPTED VRchat is enough to shake the EN landscape.
FIFY

The way she deposited the fee into the artists bank account, and then had them do everything ....
My god, bros. Could Ame be any more creative and innovative?

>>12345162
unfathomably based if true

>>12346072
I still can't stop reading MK as Mortal Kombat instead of Mario Kart

Woah, why the producer/writer deserves any credit?
The tech supports & the actors did all the work!
Yes, I'm being sarcastic.

>>12345162
fuck, god please no

People always try to imply others are "better" but they never pull out a single example because it's all based on pure hopium.
The times they thought they had something it was only when they were parading other people's models around like Codemiko and Snuffy. And yet you could never learn anything about the actual chuuba from these threads aside from how "natural" their expressions looked or how "smooth" they moved. I've seen enough examples of what this board thinks counts as hololive killers to dismiss it.

>>12337963
VSHOJO also did a VRchat stream

>>12340893
>multimilion dollars vtuber company
They didn't do shit, ALL of this came out of Ame's pocket which is why it's so impressive
She commissioned models for all 11 members, commissioned several different sets and stages, commissioned props, hired Sarasin to make a song for them, got Mori to write lyrics to song, and hired Kanauru to animate an MV. All with her own fucking money and she put it all together in a fucking WEEK (7 days)
What did the JP branch with 100+ staff members, company money, High poly 3D models, top of the line VR gear, and in house studio do for halloween? nothing they played fucking amongus

>>12348196
>halloween? nothing they played fucking amongus
That's like asking why asking EN didn't celebrate Tanabata. Halloween is barely a thing outside of the Anglosphere.

>>12338632
They have real 3D in the studio but it certainly moggs any other EN group there is.

I just don't want this to be the peak of HoloEN.

>>12340337
Thank you.
Every project starts with a vision, then a draft, plan, schedule, creation, etc.
Vision is what Ame creates, therefore creatividad

>>12337963
Eternally bow to Ame. Not a fan of her content but she is the hands-down innovator of EN, always pushing the envelope of what they can do with the shit support they get from management.

itt: spic thread

>>12349708
Fuck off I do alot of stuff!

You simpletons are easily impressed

>>12341092
It's still baffling to me, I timeloop every time I hear about it because I still just can't wrap my goddamn mind around Cover shooting Kiara in the foot like that after sinking supposedly thousands into an original song that doesn't even get management support. Every time I see anyone defending Omegle I can't take that shit seriously after such horrible mismanagement.

>>12340541
>What, you didn't fall in love with the cheap models and elementary school Halloween activities?
>>12339952
>I'm butthurt at the fact that Hololive used to produce quality content. And now we have fucking newfags supporting shit content when other streamers have been doing the same stuff daily. What's the point of Hololive anymore?

its almost like youve never watched the 3d content done by vtubers before, it's all about at this level. just enjoy your entertainers being cute.

>>12346072
>EN and ID aren't idols
>JP is
>JP managers protecting their 'brand' from low IQ IDs and ENs who might fuck it up

>>12350268
Why else would I watch vtubers?

>>12349314
But what did they do for Tanabata or Obon?

>>12340726
kek

>>12349314
It's not like they ever did something so impressive for any occasion whatsoever.

>>12339550
Based. They're really angry now.

>>12351982
>so impressive
Don't tell me you think this is impressive?
Even discounting concerts and Minecraft stuff, the 3D collabs/gameshows are much more fun and memorable than this.

>>12352319
A few people dancing on a stage is far less impressive than this. They told spooky stories over the campfire, chased each other in a labyrinth, had tons of fun overall. JPs never did anything like this, not even in 3D, because they were always restricted by a single tiny stage with some interactive objects.

>anon wants the quality of EN collabs like the JPs like live 3d concerts and shit
Are you fucking retarded? There are still travel restrictions.

>>12340893
>I don't get it.
That's okay, one day you will Data.

>>12352433
>spooky stories over the campfire, chased each other in a labyrinth, had tons of fun overall. JPs never did anything like this, not even in 3D, because they were always restricted by a single tiny stage with some interactive objects.
Sounds less fun when it's more like the girls actually interacting with each other and just playing with pre-created assets and each other's avatar.
Compare that to 3D stuff when have stuff like Sankisei posing as magical girls, doing athletic challenge or enacting soap opera stuff. It's fun because it's actually them interacting with each other within the physical space.
Hell, having stuff like punishment games like the electrocution game with Pekora and Rushia or the whole freak out when Noel revealed her rings during the after-concert talk actually felt more "alive" over basically playing around with VRC assets.

>>12348196
>she used money to get a product
>she used money to get a product
>she used money to get a product
>she used money to get a product
>she asked her friend to do something
>she used money to get a product
Impressive I guess.

>>12352708
Except this is being done completely online, no one is physically present near each other. This lets them actually move around a fully-realized digital space instead of standing in place. Physical interactions might be less prominent in this format, but the potential is limitless to what they can actually do. You're describing it as "just playing with pre-created assets", but that's the same thing JPs are doing, except they actually have to be physically present for it. For me, it's more fun to watch girls explore an open space rather than do what amounts to stand-up routines.
The problem is not that Cover can't do what Ame did. The problem is that Cover should be doing this, and things even better than this. They should be providing high-poly models with state-of-the-art rigging, complex assets, and everything else. But they're not doing anything, so watching Ame do such impressive things by herself obviously makes people point at Cover and ask reasonable questions, such as "Where is the money going?". These are the biggest vtubers in the world, they deserve better.

>>12352708
>when Noel revealed her rings during the after-concert
The fuck did i miss? are those the rings her and flare were hyping all those months ago?

>>12353266
>This lets them actually move around a fully-realized digital space instead of standing in place.
Which is just Alt Minecraft, then.
>You're describing it as "just playing with pre-created assets", but that's the same thing JPs are doing, except they actually have to be physically present for it.
Not having the actual physical objects and chuuba there to interact make it less life-like and immersive. Imagine if all those 3d collabs are just on VRC then we wouldn't have moments like Mio actually vomiting stuff, Marine actually physically exhausted dancing or actually slapping Aqua around. Having actually interacted with each other is just plain better than having them awkwardly wearing a VR headset pretend to do that within the virtual space, with SD form to put.
>The problem is not that Cover can't do what Ame did. The problem is that Cover should be doing this, and things even better than this. They should be providing high-poly models with state-of-the-art rigging, complex assets, and everything else. But they're not doing anything, so watching Ame do such impressive things by herself obviously makes people point at Cover and ask reasonable questions, such as "Where is the money going?". These are the biggest vtubers in the world, they deserve better.
All of that went into JP, hence big concerts, big sponsors, actual TV appearances. None of the EN are as big as JP's superchat/live viewers number nor worth the effort of providing them with high quality rigs when the return barely matter. Business-wise, JP just plain bringing more money when their images can be plastered on supermarkets, trains, sports leagues and card games while EN, while reaching a wider audience compared to JP due to the language barrier, isn't reaching deep enough compared to JP.
Basically, when it comes to fame, JP is the equivalent of actual anime characters, mid-tier seiyuu/celebrities, and thus, investing in them would bring more revenue from actual big payers like corps and businesses wanting to use their images while EN is still streamers and thus, existed on a singular niche where the income only coming from their paypigs.

>>12339286

Do your /co/ reps anonchamma, Stan Lee did nearly nothing

Wait what? I haven't watched any hololive videos for the past 3 months and don't want to screw up my search history for now but did Ame did another 3D walfa stream? Why does she keep using money for those garbage models?

>>12353382
You missed the NND after 2nd fes concert talk last year or are you just a newfag?
https://streamable.com/0hnl76

>>12353808
Oh boy, I can't wait for another Holostar 3D model! They sure bring a lot of profits for hololive.

>>12354083
They are holding a concert. They also are part of the larger collective that gets sponsorship. Liquors, candy, radio shows, chips and a whole lot of merch. I don't watch Holostars but you can't really discount them since they do bring in spons money as well.

>>12354083
>Oh boy, I can't wait for another Holostar 3D model! They sure bring a lot of profits for hololive.
Unironically more than EN, as in businesses in Japan would be willing to pay to have them promote stuff, especially fujo-esque media. Meanwhile, the most you'd have for businesses in the West to actually feature anime-related stuff is through Twitter interaction. Hell, the whole reason Xbox first interact with Gura's twitter was because their media guy was into anime somewhat.

>>12353808
>Imagine if all those 3d collabs are just on VRC then we wouldn't have moments like Mio actually vomiting stuff, Marine actually physically exhausted dancing or actually slapping Aqua around
Out of all those examples, only slapping would actually require physical presence.
>None of the EN are as big as JP's superchat/live viewers number nor worth the effort of providing them with high quality rigs when the return barely matter
Kiara and Gura make more money than 90% of Hololive. Gura has the second biggest live viewer number in the history of Hololive, second only to Coco's graduation. It's all on Playboard. You are beyond fucking retarded if you think that goddamn homos are more important than ENs.
>>12354209
So you are beyond fucking retarded, got it.

>>12354238
I love the smell of seething EOPs in the morning.
>Kiara and Gura make more money than 90% of Hololive
Now this is pure cope. Sit down kid. You're done.

>>12354238
Mori is highest SCed EN and she's at 12th. You have the whole Gen 3 minus Flare who is 13th, Lamy, Korone, Kanata, Aqua and Pekora. Why do you fucking lie. Kiara is 20th while Gura is 23rd. There's several Holos above them.

>>12354354
Then why Kiara gets chosen as the ambassador of ToA, not Suisei?

>>12354360
>Lamy, Korone, Kanata, Aqua and Pekora
They are all above Mori. Subaru, Miko, Watame, Matsuri and Noel beat the shark in Total SCs.

>Creative
But vshoujo started doing it earlier and much more interesting.

>>12354382
Retard. She's the ambassador for the fucking global audience. Not fucking Japan. Did you even see how fucking abysmal her spons numbers was? 2k CCV or some shit? Pekora who got sponsed to do that Judgement game got 30k+ CCV

>>12354354
Check the fucking website, retard.
>seething EOPs
Of course it's a /jp/fag defending his pure maidens from evil gaijins. What are you even doing here?
>>12354360
Number 12 in total superchats worldwide is Kanae, a Niji. What numbers are you even looking at?

>>12354382
Because Suisei's main feature is that she's the JRPG player of EN. Meanwhile Korone is on Sonic, a much bigger name than Tales. Fubuki, Subaru on that new Guardian of Galaxies while Pekora and Noel got sponsored by Square fucking Enix.

>>12354459
This is total of all SCs regardless if you are a Vtuber or not worldwide.

>>12354455
You didn't answer his question. Why was she chosen over Suisei? Especially for a global audience, something much more important for an international company like Bamco.

>>12354382
Because Kiara speaks EN. Name me an EN content creator that would be a good fit for Tales and has numbers too? They aren't many good western content creators for JRPGs.

>>12354455
So I know FF is the biggest JRPG franchise in the west but what comes after it? Persona?

>>12337963
I KNEEL
I CAN'T STOP KNEELING

>>12354502
Are you fucking for real? They obviously targeted the EN audience thus Kiara. If they wanted to choose Suisei then it's because they want the nipland to watch her play it.

>>12354494
And Ame & Gura got a sponsor from one of the biggest mobile games globally with 60 million downloads per month. What's your point?

>>12354435
>interesting
I dunno but just looking at this pic really doesn't prove your point.

>>12354502
He did. Because its for global. Just like in this board, we post about Kiara and not Suisei in the global thread.

>/jp/ niggers come in and shit up the thread with their inferiority complex
YWNBJ

>>12337963
Me and my oshi will always kneel to the protagonist of HoloEN.

>watching girls flail around with 3d models and giggle for hours
I...IM GONNA KNEEEEEL
IM KNEEELING AAAAA

>>12354546
The cope is fucking real hear.

>>12354546
>mobile game
>number of downloads mattered
lmao. Maybe when they actually got sponsored by Granblue or Uma Musume.

>>12354554
Its all just /vt/ anon. You got baited and I got baited. Wazoo.
>>12354435
I'd honestly prefer if the HoloEN girls stuck with their VRchat models instead of playing around with the mushroom and shark/frog shit.

>>12354554
Best part is they force themself to acknowledge homos just to cope.
It's hilarious.

>>12354459
I'm here to put inferior EOPs in your place. You will never be relevant. EN will always play second fiddle to the main branch.

>>12354546
>60 million downloads per month
Bro thats not where close to the biggest. Mobile games are huuuuge. Don't be like delusional NijiENfags who think they are bigger than Mafumafu.

>>12354534
But I thought Suisei was a super-popular mega-star with amazing numbers, and ENs are nothing compared to her. She's Japanese, after all. So how could that filthy Kiara be chosen over her in any context whatsoever?
...Could it possibly be that there's some other thing that you are missing completely when you proceed to fellate Japanese vtubers for no reason other than your blind weebery?
No, that's not possible.

>>12354613
B-BUT MUH SPONSORSHIPS
HOMOS WERE SPONSORED ONCE
THEY ARE MORE IMPORTANT THAN HOLOLIVE ENGLISH
NO, I'M NOT COPING, AND THEIR BRANCH IS NOT DEAD

>>12354616
It doesn't really matter. They are all working for the same company anyways. This is the second worst kind of tribalism. The worst kind is when a schizo gets upset that their oshi is playing with other gens or other vtubers in general

>>12354616
You mean third fiddle from the super successful homostar, right?

>>12354677
Language tribalism is best tribalism. Anything not out of a JP branch is subhuman trash. That goes for Holo and Niji.

>>12354524
1. Pokemon
2. Final Fantasy
3. Dragon quest
4. Shin Megami Tensei
5. Tales
This is based on total sales but I think it pretty accurate for western popularity.

>>12354646
Why would any fucking marketing department choose a girl that can't speak English be the ambassador for the English aspect of the game? Are you fucking retarded??
>>12354673
EN barely gets sponsored. JP vomits sponsorship 3-5 times a month every month. It's actually exhausting.

>>12354646
>But I thought Suisei was a super-popular mega-star with amazing numbers, and ENs are nothing compared to her. She's Japanese, after all. So how could that filthy Kiara be chosen over her in any context whatsoever?
Bamco paid for third grade celeb while Square gets the cream of the crop.
May as well ask why Kiara put so much effort into her idol works while Suisei's constantly tops Oricon and mogs her everytime

>>12354736
>Dragon quest
Lolno. I'll put fucking Earthbound above Dragon Quest.

>>12354633
>>12354591
>Number one game in the Apple App store’s RPG section.
>Beating even Genshin Impact.
>Doesn't matter.

>>12354748
I'm sure we'll get Holostars gen 4 aaaany day now. They bring in sponsorships after all, what could be more important? And I'm sure Hololive EN won't ever get another member, they don't bring sponsorships, so they'll be graduated soon enough.

Sponsorships are important.

Very important.

>>12354748
Btw. Fubuki, Mel and Suisei got to promote a Tales game a few months ago. https://youtu.be/yg1xjLtghx4
>>12354817
Shut the fuck up with your cope. Nissin used HoloJP on national TV to promote their curry.

>>12354919
And Taco Bell used Gura.

>>12354546
>small time virgin EN whores get sponsored by mobile game that fucking nobody plays
>big household name JP chad Aqua gets sponsored by fucking Toyota, Red Bull and Nissin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMYdPvmFkAE
Sit the fuck down. JP exists on a different plane of existence.

>>12354919
So Hololive EN should not get any help from Cover at all because JP promoted curry that one time, and now the entire company's resources should be funneled into homos above EN.

Jesus fuck, you people really did go insane in that /jp/ echochamber of yours.

>>12354914
Holostars have been asked about this several times and they have said multiple times that they don't want another gen. Debuting another one will hamper their growth. Cover seems to be fine with that and they are getting enough spons. They do get SCs and merch tie-ins. And they are also holding a concert. Their main channel gets more activity than EN main channel btw and they put out a lot of content. So if you are trying to diss them. You are really not doing it right.

>>12354961
She also did a lot of amazing partnerships with China, but we don't talk about that anymore, for some reason.

The only thing EN is good for is to provide English narration for JP's end of year concerts.

>>12340464
OOOOOOH

>>12354961
>>12354981
>>12354935
Chumbabies sure are bitter aren't they. Nissin, Pokemon, Bleach, Netflix, Square Enix, Vark, Bushiroad, Bandai Namco, Nendos, Red Bull and Sega to name a few. There's also that Baseball League. There's a fuck ton of mobile games, magazines and merch deals like the Capcom pairing they do now.

>>12354992
>Holostars have been asked about this several times and they have said multiple times that they don't want another gen
Yup, that's totally the only reason why. They were printing money in every way possible, but Yagoo decided to listen to their pleas and never do another gen, because he's such a gosh darn nice guy.
Do you people really believe this?

>>12355057
Are you saying that Gura didn't get a Nendo?

>>12354992
I'm still waiting for the proof that Holostars are more 3D-worthy than EN because they bring more money, & not because of the travel & song restriciton.
BTW, Ame already has her proper 3D model from her fan & she is just waiting for permission from Cover.

>>12354736
I don't know what the fuck are you people arguing about but this list is just retarded. Shin Megami Tensei doesn't go there

>>12355029
EN should stop collabing with JP completely until YAGOO gets his shit together and starts giving them some serious money to work with. EN should also get third gen as soon as possible so less westernes would eatch JP. Everyone would be happy.

>>12355097
THEY SOLD LIQUOR GOD DAMN IT
IT'S NOT A TECHNICAL ISSUE OF NOT HAVING EN IDOLS IN JAPAN
IT'S LIQUOR
SHUT UP HOMOS ARE PURE JAPANESE VTUBERS FOLDED OVER 1000 TIMES, THEY ARE SUPERIOR AND THAT'S WHY THEY GOT 3DS

>>12354817
What is that game again? The Pokemon MOBA one that fizzled out of public consciousness faster than Far Cry 6?
Pretty sure the top 10 grossing of the last quarter is
>PUBG Mobile
>Honor of Kings
>Genshin Impact
>Pokémon GO
>Roblox
>Candy Crush Saga
>Coin Master
>Garena Free Fire
>Uma Musume
>Fate/Grand Order
https://www.fastcompany.com/90682170/these-10-mobile-games-are-topping-global-charts-right-now
>>12354935
For a split second in an animated ad. May as well be a pop culture reference to pander to zoomer.
>>12354981
>So Hololive EN should not get any help from Cover at all because JP promoted curry that one time, and now the entire company's resources should be funneled into homos above EN.
No, because if Nissin which is the biggest instant food corporation and one of the biggest in the world was sponsoring your talent streams, you'd prioritize that over a foreign branch that has yet to catch any attention from any sponsorships on the same level.
Homo and EN are essentially both behind when it comes to priority for Covers, with good reason. The difference is due to Japan's not weird out by anime characters on their products, Homo got much better chance of getting sponsorships of similar nature compared to EN

>>12355059
>Yagoo decided to listen
of course. yagoo is based and he cares for his talents. what's so unbelievable about that?

>>12355059
Anon. HoloID is getting a new gen. Fucking HoloID. Ollie is comparable to Astel in SCs and CCV btw. Both above $100k. Roberu is over $200k.

>>12355097
Noone is fucking arguing that EN doesn't deserve a 3D. Just because Holostars are less profitable doesn't really change the fact that they are profitable.

>>12355230
I'm asking why Holostars get it first, which JOP said is because they are MORE profitable just like the main branch & not due to travel restrictions.
Go & be reasonable to them, not me.

>>12355113
Why doesn't it? I am including "mainline" titles and Persona if that is your problem.

>>12355269
So you don't watch streams and the news apparently.

>>12355158
>because if Nissin which is the biggest instant food corporation and one of the biggest in the world was sponsoring your talent streams, you'd prioritize that over a foreign branch that has yet to catch any attention from any sponsorships on the same level
No, you fucking dumb fuck. ENs don't have 3D (or anything else) because they're not in Japan. That's fucking it, that is the only goddamn reason. Cover only operates in Japan, and they don't give a shit about anything else. If they were a smart company, they would do things differently. If they were a smart company, Coco would still be around. But alas, they are not a smart company. That's why Gura is stuck with a shit rig. It's not because fucking Roberu is bringing them more money or attention. It's because they are literally incapable of doing the right thing. Think, for fucks sake, and stop fellating Yagoo. He has no fucking idea what he's doing, and he proved it many times now.

>>12355298
Yes, I watch the news about the lockdown, nothing about oh-so-successful Holostars.

>>12355333
Read your own fucking responses. You were initially talking down at Holostars for not getting Gen4. Anons was only defending why they didn't want to have another gen. And then you do on a tirade how they don't deserve 3D? Are you on drugs???

>>12355376
In case you can't figure it yet or haven't taken your meds yet, or both, you are talking to two people. I never bring anything about another gen.

>>12355409
Then you are inserting yourself in a whole argument by inserting your whole stupid ass because you don't know shit and wants to be spoonfed? Alright.

>>12355432
No, I bring a new argument & you can't continue so you go back to point your old one.

I can't wait for the time next year when these "bu-bu-bu- 3D only nippon desu" retards run out of excuses and it's Amelia fucking Watson who gets HoloEN 3D while YAGOO sucks Homostars dick and Homostars fans wring their hands.

It's one thing to say that VRchat and chibi models are a nice concession at the moment since they can't use proper 3D models and setups. It's another fucking idiotic thing to say that it mogs HoloJP.

The moment that EN gets actual 3D models and get a glimpse of a 3D studio they will drop the chibi shit right away, you will get better tracking, body language and even coomers will get possible upskirt shots. Even if fans are polled you bet your ass that they won't give a shit about the smoll models anymore.

>>12355269
I'm asking why Holostars get it first

Because they came first.

>>12355301
Literally use your brain for a second, anon.
Profit = Revenue - Cost
That's the basic formula behind every business decision since time immemorial.
EN just simply don't bring enough profit worth of the cost of paying for 3D in multiple countries/locations or bringing them together for days to rehearse. Meanwhile, the cost of utilizing the current asset that is JP and improving upon it is far less than that and brings more profit.
Gura, even at her most profitable, is less marketable than Marine or Subaru or Pekora or any mid-tier and up JP when they can actually participate in sponsorships and activities like concerts. Hence, Marine got several figures as with Gamers and the rest of Sankisei while Gura got a nendo.
Investing in EN just isn't profitable.
No one said that Cover is an outstanding company but any businessman would choose to put more investment into JP than EN or ID when JP are pretty much small celebs tiers and due to moe culture, actually more legitimate than EN or ID, which is more of a novelty niche at best. Maybe when Westerners stopped treating anime with "oriental pedophile cartoon isn't Japan weird haha?" maybe EN would get more focus.

>>12355495
absolutely incorrect and keep your love of soulless shit to yourself

>>12355493
What are you fucking on about. It has always been a given that Myth will get their 3D. Holostart's 3D doesn't really fucking matter into that equation. Much like how HoloID will get their own 3D. Fucking Indies have 3D. Cover is just autistic about holding it in Japan. Why the need to inflate anything? Myth probably would have had their 3D debuts if they were in Japan. Gen5 fucking had theirs last January this year and both gens debuted a month apart.

>>12345689
>Then tell me what's good about it then?
It makes you seethe

>>12355495
Smol Ame has better mouth & finger tracking, & even includes tongue tracking. Ame already has a very good 3D model with a pantie with lace & a fluttery skirt, & she wants to buy a tracking suit. The only thing on her way is the debut.
She even still uses 2D Smol Ame because she can spin & bounce easily.

>>12355493
>you're wrong! You'll see!
So you have nothing but pure cope?

>>12354646
please stop comparing suisei to your EN whore

>>12355580
If if if. And like you said, Cover and YAGOO are retarded. They don't do shit for EN but funnel money to Homostar failures. Use that money to people who actually matter.

>>12355549
ID already confirmed they will get 3D models if it's not due to covid, anon.
Are you gonna convince yourself ID is more profitable than EN now?

>>12355674
>Use that money to people who actually matter.
So, not the irrelevant EN whores. Got it.

Good ass bait

>>12355549
Anon. You are thinking way toooo hard. Renting a space for 4 girls for a few months is pennies compared to the amount that they can earn from online ticket sales alone. You bet your ass that they will hold a concert once they debut with merch as well. Gen1 for crying out loud had their own paid concert. Holostars will get theirs. Suisei and Watame got their Solos. Fuck 2 Holos do Vark concert every month. It's possible but restrictions are just the only reason from getting anything done apparently.

>>12355674
That's what they did. Homo got more potential in Japan with the investment in them thanks to actual worthwhile sponsors while EN will bring the same amount of money since their only source of profit is paypigs and superchat and third tier sponsors

>>12355733
>worthwhile sponsors
Name five.

>>12355698
So Homostars are more relevant than EN? It's OK to like dick but let's not be delusional.

Reminder, Ame even hired an artist to do concept arts.
Nothing in JP can even come close to this.

>>12355854
You mean pay someone to make something for them??? Most of them do.

>>12355882
Being a producer? They wish.

>>12348196
Some of those things aren’t impressive. Vrchat streams are big on twitch and you can get a model commission for like 20 bucks. And those are high quality ones with accessories and high detail, unlike the walfie meme shit.
Same goes with VRC maps. It’s streamlined thanks to inhouse map building software and a lot of the models/resources are public use. Literally drag and drop.
The only impressive thing she did was the MV. That one probably cost a hundred

>>12355854
>hire this hire that
So she did nothing but spend money

>>12355692
>Are you gonna convince yourself ID is more profitable than EN now?
Unironically the cost will be cheaper due to all the members all within the same area anyway.
>>12355723
You are talking about paying the living expenses, renting with good security, singing and dancing lessons from English fluent teachers who know idol shit, a practice studio for 4 people for at least 2-3 months, all while guaranteeing that their streaming activities aren't interrupted.
Logistics while, that is too complicated and not even guaranteeing profit seeing how many EN fans would even interested in idol stuff and not just pure streaming?
Even for a normal 3D collab, it would likely take at least 2-3 weeks of rehearse for an event like that.
>>12355854
Yeah, maybe when she actually visited a sake brewer to test the product like the drunk trio of Noel, Lamy and Aki did for their merch.

>>12356031
Yeah, she gives her SC money back to the fans & artists, & she barely gets any.
Unlike those JP.

>>12356031
Yes indeed, the work managers and producers should be doing with much larger budget, not one vtuber with her own money.

>>12355942
>yagoo retweeted
m-maybe he still cares....

>>12356116
Barely a drop in a bucket. Maybe when she actually commissioned something equivalent to this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDWcMZUQgFs
>>12356141
Seeing the CCV of this is enough to prove that it's just not worth the cost.

>>12356093
The travel cost from Indonesia isn't that much different than from America/Europe.
>visited a sake brewer to test the product like the drunk trio of Noel, Lamy and Aki did for their merch.
Maybe when they can organize the biggest charity event from a vtuber just to help others, not for their own merch.

>>12356190
Ofcourse it's worth it. Fans fucking love it. It's also worth it if even a little in forums people start question if Cover actually is full of shit? What if even in Reddit someone would ask why is only one chuuba and her money behind this. Imagine! Reddit!

>>12356093
Anon. I hate to break this to you but that's what HoloJP has been doing aunce last year. A lot of their holos juggle those lessons. That's why there was decrease now in gen3 activities because they are preparing for their concert. It's going to be easier for en if they live in one place unlike holos other holos that don't live in Tokyo.

Just give the girls real models for VRChat. The technology is there for proper virtual 3D collabs; people do fucking pole dancing in VRChat.

>>12355942
All 3D concerts that were free from a Holo were self directed and self produced so far.

>>12356190
There is no point when Cover is already affiliated with Good Smile. En already said each of their nendos and whatever will be released eventually. Gura was just prioritized

>>12356242
>Maybe when they can organize the biggest charity event from a vtuber just to help others, not for their own merch.
>charity
No one outside of Americans would fall for that meme, anon. Next, you will tell me the UN Peacekeepers actually keep the peace as well. Work smarter not harder.
>The travel cost from Indonesia isn't that much different than from America/Europe.
No, I mean hiring a single place in Indonesia that all member can be for practice is cheaper since most of ID is in a close area, anyway.
>>12356279
Not with these numbers. Certainly for such a big event, the fucking Among Us somehow gathered more interests than this supposed big collab of whole EN gens.
>>12356328
Yeah, but consider most of them living within the larger Tokyo area that they can come and go with train, and the pretty much no renting cost/living expenses needed when they can basically crash at each other houses for one or two nights before leaving

>>12356438
Do you know how kuch Suisei earned for her concert and Album sales?? She got about $500k from album sales alone.

>>12356438
Anon, they need to travel to Japan for the 3D concert. Whether they want to practice hard like Nene or what kind of dance they want is up to them.
>actually keep the peace as well.
More than a brewery, for sure.

>Much tl;drs.
I'm here just for the kneel.

>>12356562
Just /hlg/ seething, like usual.

>>12356584
Hey you. You got more of these?

>>12356004
You need to treat Cover as a huge obstacle too. Ame can do all of this because she keeps prying on the rules to the point she can be considered a manager too now.

>>12356674
What exactly is considered "yabe" here that needs to be restricted? They got perms from VRchat and the model are cute chibi. What hoop does she need to jump?? Was she planning to put Kiara on a noose or something?

>>12356739
Using programs outside of Cover's when Cover is still a tech company.

That feeling when a lot of these pro-JP baiters think they are Japanese despite EN trying something new for a change.

>>12356537
Yeah, because she's an actual singer and her fans are actually into the whole idol aspect of her. I doubt EN fans would do the same and seeing the whole internet meme of "toxic idol culture", I doubt they would pay as much.
>>12356559
Having the all members in the same area of Indonesia would already provide other solutions such as having practice classes there or having all of them on the same flight, which would reduce the cost far more than EN which spread from Europe to Canada.
Certainly an effort provide more benefit than "charity stream", people can have the drink of with images of their oshi and the girls can satisfy their drunkard side. Meanwhile, barely anyone cares that much for that animal charity stream Ame did. If helping people is worth that much, I would rather watch and support indie actually in the profession of helping people like Athena or Niji like Sukoya.

>>12356784
>That feeling when a lot of these pro-JP baiters think they are Japanese despite EN trying something new for a change.
It's just sub vs dub argument. I don't want to be Japanese nor care for Japanese. I just want good quality for the media I consoom and JP's stuff is just superior to EN's.

>>12356777
And very proud of their Live2D which seems to be going absolutely nowhere. And low and behold, when they are trying home 3D they give it first to JP talent, not in EN who could use a fucking break and deserve some tech. But fuck EN.

>>12356828
Not sure if tons of Apex, Minecraft and obscure Japanese stuff is considered superior outside of concerts.

Did I forget how many Apex streams there are in JP?

>>12356804
Anon. EN has Mori. She literally has more gachis and views for her MVs compared to Suisei. Gura is the same. Reflect has 10M views. Kiara, Ina and Ame will be just added numbers that will pad it further. Remember that Gen1 had a concert with lower amount of views and popularity.

>>12339550
Based and accurate lmao
I loved the stream but you are correct. In the grand scheme of things and especially when comparing to things the JP have done, it's not anything amazing.

>>12338537
based

New Ame in the AM when? New podcast when?

>>12356904
Minecraft is actually quite fun when there is enough interaction and it's basically zatsudan lite. Collab streams are fun since JP interactions are never as awkward or delayed as EN.
Karaoke streams are fucking amazing for how many /m/ songs and anisongs there are. Maybe one day an EN will sing actually sing Tobe, Dunbine, Zambot OP or SKILL.
Also, no EN streams even reached the level of kino like Noel/Pekora DQ casino streams.
>>12356916
How many of those viewers would actually pay for the tickets or actually buy the albums, though? Free stuff will inevitably gather more views compared to those having to pay. Combined with EN-only viewers as well, just looking at chat will show how many are willing to support their oshi with how lopsided the green and grey names are.

>>12357072
Never. Watch streams.

>>12337963
No, what happened?

>>12357115
Why would I watch a person who abandons everything so easily?

>>12340627
yes because no one watches them

>>12357102
Maybe if you are a DQ fan which in the west. Good luck finding a fandom for that. Even Kiara's WoW streams had more significance than DQ casino.

Wow... Never knew there were so many ledditors on here, this is something only their kind would get excited about.
Its just your shitty same old vr gimmick you pay others to do.

>>12356004
>100$
I wish half the shit I commissioned was 100$

>>12357154
I don't know or care. You asked, I answered.

>>12357211
Imagine finding a vtuber that can do rigging and model making without paying someone.

>>12357102
How many will buy an all myth album? You can already take a guess just by SCs alone. Why do you think Watame got a concert on her own?

>>12357154
Because she told her viewers she abandoned it & the reason for it. Unlike most other streamers that keep dangling it for months.

>>12357199
And a mix bag of JP playing Among Us have more significant than the best effort of Amelia and the rest of EN for this 3rd grade 3D stuff.
Considering Noela and Pekora's love for DQ got them sponsorship from SE and even a tour of their HQ, it certainly broughy more benefit for them and Covers than 99% of what Kiara had done. If EN is any smart, Ina should have begged for GBO2 permission to actually get some real cash cow sponsorship.

>>12357102
>No EN streams even reached the level of kino like Noel/Pekora DQ casino streams.
Kek.

>>12337963
never doubted her, god bless Ame.

SHUT THE FUCK UP AND POST MORE KNEELING PICTURES, JESUS CHRIST

>>12357325
Cope. Name a more pure fun collab streams comparable to that from the EN side that results in a bunch of fan arts, animation and clips.
EN streams are just simply forgetable compared to pure SOUL that are JP streams

>>12357299
That's because of Japanese companies and their nationalism that mixes in with their profits

>>12357245
Beatani? And I pretty sure there are many indie who could do it too.

>>12357428
How about games?

>>12357451
Imagine thinking 2views count

>>12357409
Smug pics are better due to the amount of seething from /jp/ in this thread.

>>12357458
Noel's Nioh streams are pure kino for how autistic she was with roleplaying, mixing in her knowledge of real life kendo and Sengoku era trivia.
Better than most of EN's game stream. The only thing even close is the CCA and Hathaway watchalong from Ina, both from her passion with it and how much Tomino's works filtered /vt/

>>12357439
The result is the only thing that matters. Maybe one day, most of EN stream are just insignificant to JP streams.

>>12357508
Roleplaying you said?

Why do the EN's not have official 3d models yet?

>>12357549
No visa.

>tfw you will always be japanese

I will kneel for one reason and one reason only, the acknowledgement of haachama... AME I FUCKING KNEEL YOU WONDERFUL SISTER!

>>12357536
JP's CoC streams > WoD as well. But Noel always insisted on using heavy weapons like Mace in her DS's playthrough or Odachi in Nioh

>>12357581
And Ame has a 100 agility character to the point she can kill herself & break the game if she runs straight for too long just to stay in character.
And she played it for the 14th time, & counting.

>>12357631
Maybe when Ame can actually do her drug/detective/time traveller gimmick comparable to Noel reciting her shu-ha-ri lecture from her kendo days when playing Nioh.

>>12337963
What did she do exactly? Besides cuck her fans, that is.

>>12357729
She knows about quantum physics & clipping mechanics just fine, don't worry.

>>12357729
Here you go, anon: https://youtu.be/C6WsvUe0NWw

>>12357468
Corpo will never let their talent do that, 3viewers or more indie had enough money to have a professional do it for them. What you want simply impractical.

>>12357755
Reading about it on wiki and barely even mentioned it these days doesn't count, anon.
>>12357772
So is playing Detective game.
Certainly not comparable to Noel's insistence on a single weapon despite getting her ass kicked by a boss for 7 hours or explaining actual Japanese martial arts philosophy

>>12357846
You ever heard of #Ameway? Because I never heard of #Noelway even once.

>>12357846
Why would an isekai world knight know jack shit about Japanese martial arts? That's not character lore, that's just roommate shit. You had something with her using bludgeons in Dark Souls, but not with Japanese wooden sword fencing. If you want Ame sperging about her personal niche interests, watch one of the streams where she goes on about aquariums.

>>12357575
>mfw she didnt acknowledge her cousin Amatsuka Uto.

>>12357929
She mentioned her cousin Uto when she had her big 3D stream. I don't remember the details, but I think she said it looked cool.

>>12357887
The fuck is Ameway?
>>12357888
Her roleplay in DS is with the settings of being a knight. In Nioh, she incorporated that with her kendo knowledge due to the settings as she considered odachi to be closer to mace than kanabo which is more warhammer.

>>12358044
You'll know if you actually watch Ame, /jp/chama. Not some obscure JP chuba saying some obscure niponshit.

>>12358044
Alright, well on the off-chance you're not arguing entirely in bad faith, if you really want kino autist roleplaying from the ENs, you should check out the WoD character intro stream on Gura's channel, where the shark does TTRPG stuff for the first time better than any first time player I've ever seen.

>>12358118
>>12358200
Nah, I don't watch any chuuba who don't know what Newtypes are, hence the only EN I occasionally watch is Ina. Besides, none of her content appealed to me.
>>12358200
I remember Holmes was an actual character in her lore back during her first few streams, did that ever come up again?

>>12358309
Then you can't tell which one is better.
And as someone that watched both of them, I can say nothing from Noel come close to Ame's dedication to Bowson, or even Sun Station or Anti Chamber.

The fucking enfags fight and bring anyone on holoJP down

>>12358309
>Nah, I don't watch any chuuba who don't know what Newtypes are.
Jesus Christ, you really unironically mean that, don't you?

>>12339550
this.everything was just lukewarm at best

>>12337963
When I saw this I laughed and thoguht this is a joke but when i saw some of the replies >>12338320
>>12338442
>>12338566
>>12338632
im wondering if these people are real or not. are they in on the joke or do they actually believe ame is creative for using OBS filters? xD This website attracts a lot of reatrded people so I genuinely dont know anymore.

>>12339189
I can't tell if ur serious or not

>>12337963
yes i unironically am