/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Microphone Copy Pasta]

Here's a few tips for all of you about microphones for all of you:

First:
-If you are starting, take a look at what you have around, maybe your gaming headset will be good enough to start.
-If you have a rockband mic laying around stored in some box, it may do the job too, stick a pantyhose on top of it to stop plosives, cut a hole on a ceral box to have it serve as a mic stand and voi-lá. This used to be the beginner youtuber special back in 2011~2013 and it worked very well.
-Check the noise reduction filters and equalization in OBS (or maybe use NVIDIA RTX Voice if your card is compatible) for some boost in quality.
The important is to start.
-Study mic technique, a lot of quality improvement can be done without spending a cent:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ty8YLqOmbV4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAKnCEsZ_og

After you begin and you look into into buying a mic to improve your audio quality keep in mind a few things:
-"pro" audio requires a lot of investment in equipment, acoustic treatment, mixing, etc. A lot of your favorite vtubers and regular youtuber and streamers don't have it and do just fine.
-USB mics are generally not the top end of the microphones contrary to what Blue's marketing team may want you to believe, but a good quality one is more than serviceable. If you're not that tech inclined and want an all-in-one quick solution, consider one.
- A good XLR mic, a boom arm, a pop filer and good audio interface will be enough. Don't get lost chasing "the best", don't get lost into the audiophole rabbit hole, it'll cost you a lot of for increasingly diminishing returns that most of your
viewers and won't notice.
- If you are on a tight budget, look for dynamic microphones, a Shure SM-48 with a windscreen, an XLR-to-USB adapter or a cheap audio interface will be cheaper and beat in quality most USB mics at thrice the price.
-Take into consideration your needs - lot of streamers, for example just use condenser mics because it's "studio quality" but can't get the quality they may potentially output or do anything that will really benefit from having one (like raw music vocals to for mixing).
-Going off from the last point, if you are not recording music (I don't mean Karaoke streams with some reverb kicked in, I mean actually recording vocals for mixes or professional voice overs) consider dynamic mics instead of condensers like most big streamers do, it'll save you a lot of headaches.

About Mic types, there are basically two that matter for you.
Condenser mics:
- A lot of people who do livestreams use these; They are your Blue Yetis, AT2020s and similar.
-Usually are called studio mics, and there's a reason for that. While give you a nice voice recording with a fuller range of capture, to make the most out of them you need a controlled, studio environment.
-They are more expensive by themselves, often require more accessories (not only a boom arm, but shock mouths and the like), and are often overly sensitive (which is why you get a lot of mouse and keyboard noises when people are playing).
-To make them sound the best they can will require acoustic treatment of the room you record (because they are sensitive and capture the sound waves bouncing on hard surfaces and that messes with your quality) or home-made recording studio/booth (or a makeshift one, like getting inside of a closet full of clothes or recording inside a pillow for).

Dynamics mics:
-These are the stage mics, most of you will be familiar with handheld ones stick with the little ball on top of it (but many can have different shapes and look as "studio-like" as the Condensers).
-They're usually very good at not capturing the noise that's not immediately in front of them, which is why they're used for concerts, churches, TV, and even presidential speeches (US presidents have been speaking into SM-57s for a many decades now).
- That means you don't really need to have an acoustically treated room and the clicks and clacks of your keyboard and mouse won't be picked so easily, which makes them great for home studios.
- While dynamics can get expensive, due to their construction they'll be less expensive than Condensers. The legendary industry-standard Shure SM58, for example, costs 100 bucks, and even the top models like the RE20 are way cheaper than the high end condensers that cost thousands of dollars.
- Dynamic can also be used for studio recordings - a lot of Rock vocals are recorded on Shure SM-58s because it's gritty; a ton of podcatst and radio studios use the Shure SM-7B (with Joe Rogan being the most famous example), NPR uses the Electro Voice RE27.
- Dynamics however are not as sensitive a as Condensers, they're not ideal for most musicians doing studio recordings unless we're talking rock/metal vocals.

Hope it'll be of use for all of you.
And sorry for double spaces but it's a lot of information and I wanted it to look organized.
Godspeed, anons!
And good luck!

>Dude doing my character design wrapped up today
Sweet, now I can-
>Still need to get it drawn by a L2D artist
>And rigged afterwards
>Need to figure out a stream layout
fuck
have a pretty cool anime dude that I can unironically call "MY character", though, at least
oc donut steel

>>1185530
At least you have a face for your character to start your social media reps with now

Comm is in progress so things are feeling more real...

2 questions for my progress and hopefully helpful to others:

1. Do you all think having a layout is really that important for a gaming-focused (no chat streams just yet) channel just starting out? Or put another way is there anything essential about it aside from visual branding - maybe making the screen more interesting if playing a weird resolution game?

2. Do you need a higher level of 'professionalism' to start on YT rather than Twitch (I guess thumbnails at minimum)? I have this idea in my head but not sure if it's really based on anything objective. I was wondering about other anons' experiences focusing on either platform or moving to one from the other.

>>1186110

1. I personally think overlays are kinda tryhard. They're only useful if you're playing a game where there's so much information on the HUD that there's no good place to put your model. If thats not an issue, just full screen the game and put your model somewhere there's dead space. A lot of hololive and nijisanji streamers do this.

2. no if anything youtube is more primitive than twitch. Less to keep track off in chat with no channel point redeems or subs/emotes until you monetize. As you noted, good thumbnails are key(supposedly) but that's about it. The stream title and description matter as well, but tags no longer do shit unless its a short.

>>1185530
>muh "I need X, Y, Z to start" rationalization
Shit or get off the pot. Or more accurately, start making content or fuck off. Wasting time and money trying to craft a prettied-up twitch or youtube channel or whatever won't do shit to get you an audience.

>>1185530
I hope you didn't pay more than $20 (actually make it $10) for this, because hahaha holy shit my man.
Where the fuck are the charm points on the design? It's some goddamn rando background anime character

>>1186110
I use a really simple layout because a lot of the games I stream are in 4:3 and I'd rather not have black space and I'm not stretching that shit out to widescreen
The overlay doesn't have to be anything special though, mine is literally a simple patterned background with space on one side for chat and avatar
Some people go reaaally overboard with their overlays where the game is only like half their screen space and then they have labels for followers, subs and shit, along with a big ass chatbox and it looks really unnecessary. I'd say simple is better personally

>>1186320
It could be the anon from last thread talking about having his character go through a whole "side character turned main character" arc

>>1186320
$25. This wasn't the only frame. Also, missing a couple features from the... greater design, those are in the other pics. Plus, this was basically a "I need a reference of some sort", once I go to whatever L2D artist I use I'll be pushing for more detail, I determined this was a cheap enough price to pay to have something more for a reference than, well, nothing.
>>1186250
I don't "need" those things, no. But I made a decent chunk of change on fucking Gamestop so have enough disposable income to set myself up moderately well.

>>1186488

Do you take constructive criticism?

I had a dream of having my own unarchived karaoke stream. I wasn't that great at singing, but chat was lighting up with people still cheering me on and everyone having a good time. then I woke up and cried because I'll never experience that irl.

>>1187769
Why the hell not? If you can stream you can sing. 100% of the shots you don't take, anon.

>>1184297
Do you guys plan to start streaming as soon as you have your png, or do you plan to wait for good rigging and everything. I can't wait to start as soon as possible, so I will just be a PNGtuber for a while.

what does /auds/ think of my audition tape?

https://files.catbox.moe/dm9yj1.mp4

>>1190639
This is gonna be one of those "every thread until you like it" things isn't it

>>1190571
Plan to start once everything is ready. People say that having a good design or having a high quality setup isn't important at all and that people will watch you as long as you have some random PNG and are interesting enough, but like c'mon, no one would have watched Korone or Fubuki initially if they were just jpeg's on a screen. Obviously they're cute and entertaining, but the main draw of Vtubers is that they're anime characters but IRL, that move, emote and react actively to whatever they are experiencing. If you're skimping out on that shit and are just a static image on the screen, and using crappy, free-to-use layouts like a majority of camwhores use, I feel like it kind of defeats the purpose and spirit of being a Vtuber. At that point you may as well just be a "normal" streamer or content creator.

>>1191077
Counterpoint: no-ones going to remember the shitty test streams once you manage to find your minimum viable audience and gain confidence as a streamer. Also, it’s always possible to delete your account and start anew.

>>1191077
> no one would have watched Korone or Fubuki initially if they were just jpeg's on a screen

I dunno man, Mana had pretty solid launch without avatar.
ofc, there's argument to be made that 3 years ago avatar set you apart from the masses

Waiting for the last bit of my streaming setup, a transition animation, is taking forever.

I'm starting to think I should just say "damn it to hell" and start without it. I want a good first impression, but this is making me dangerously close to one of those "TBA tubers"

Daaamn it all.

>>1195160
I happen to know this exact feel. And it's absolutely a minor thing but it seems like it's just important enough to wait on and I hate it.

>>1190571
Personally I don't intend to stream until I've built a small following through traditional youtube content

Any femanon wanna become my sugarbaby and i pay for half of your equipment*. You gotta be female (female). You have to be willing to let me put in it in your ass when i want, you gotta be bra size c or larger and you gotta be skinny, if you dont live near me i can help with travel cost by looking up groupons for you, also you have to be willing to cosplay while we do it and you can also practice your anime voice too, so win win for you,also finally but most important, when people ask in this threads about us, you have to say im the best you ever had no one will ever compare. Also i cry after sex and need you to reassure me you love me, you dont have to mean it but you have to say it. Any takers?

*none of that fancy brand shit, only budget brands, also i only pay the pre shipping and pre taxes cost.

What should I do if the vtubers I ask advice from, have ended up becoming TBAers? Should I just throw out their advice and look elsewhere?

>>1190639
How did she know digi, seems like it was before he went >her

>>1195689
Some people give good advice without putting it into practice themselves. Take what seems to work and discard the rest like you would anything else.

>>1195200
I'm going to give it a little while since I want to get a logo produced anyway, but... I ordered the transition animation at the end of January and it was officially accepted on the 2nd of Feb.

I get that work takes time, but... the animator doesn't take that long to do each individual animation. The person just accepted a queue that is ridiculously long.
If I'd known it was going to be this long, I'd have gone for someone else.

>>1195474
Even as a shitpost, this is sad bro.

>>1184297
I'm seeing no-one really mentions it, but Live2DViewerEX is also another program on steam powered by cubism and it works really well. Has face tracking and a lot of effects if you want to mess around, and a model editor (I think it's pretty basic, though).
It's really cheap and gets updated constantly, I've been using it for a while and I would recommend it as an alternative to facerig and their shitty licensing scheme.

Oh shit oh fuck my fucking mic is coming today and I'll be out of excuses to not be practicing dear God I'm not ready

>>1196711
Why don't you just practice with me Anon?

>>1196924
Actually talking into a vacuum is what I'm most nervous about. I've been told I'm good at annunciation and moving a conversation along, but I'm not used to speaking at a mic with no other immediate response back

>>1196967
>he doesn't try to reason with his void waifu so that his void waifu reasons back into him

>>1196163
I've never looked into that, how would you say it compares to prprlive?

>>1185530
>male vtuber
>the model ist just a plain guy
>it's literally just a guy
FUCKING STOP DOING THIS
YOU HAVE THE POWER OF IMAGINATION AT YOUR FINGERTIPS, FUCKING DO SOMETHING WITH IT
GET AN ACTUALLY INTERESTING LOOKING MODEL YOU UNCREATIVE FUCKS
NO WONDER PEOPLE DON'T GIVE A SHIT ABOUT MALE VTUBERS CAUSE MOST OF THEM LOOK EXACTLY THE FUCKING SAME FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK

>>1197598
In the undoubted and collective opinion of everyone here, what do good male anime characters look like? Keep in mind that the customer base is mostly male and that male VAs cannot effectively voice a trap character.

>>1185530
Are you comfortable streaming yet? If not, fuck fancy graphics and layouts and just start doing your reps on a practice channel. Be a disembodied voice over gameplay footage and practice talking into the void.
Get all the shit for the chuuba channel sorted out in the meantime, so your first "proper" stream isn't a complete mess.

>>1197722
bara furry tbqh

>>1197777
Imma be real, senpai, bara furry dudes with gentle voices would be awesome to watch.
Not even furry or gay

>>1197722
LITERALLY JUST MAKE A COOL CONCEPT AND RIP OFF AN ANIME I'M SO SICK OF GUY IN HOODIE WHO IS LAIDBACK AND CHILL AND PLAYING THROUGH HIS BACKLOG

>>1197598
It's literally a case of them either 1) not having any confidence of their looks and want to rely on an avatar or 2) want to be fashionable and jump on the current streaming trend. At the end of the day, they're just wanting to be a normal Twitch streamer, and this doesn't work for v-tubing.

>>1197857
Name one anime character to rip off. Just one!

>>1197893
Kazuma
>NEET loser
>Secretly wished he could live out his fantasies
>Hikki shut in that gets a new chance to live out a second life as the loud-mouthing badass he always wanted to be
>Highly relatable, enjoyable comedic character that can be engaging in more serious moments due to his intellect
Literally a perfect fit for a Vtuber.

>>1184297
hello len

>>1197857
>RIP OFF AN ANIME
anon, i don't know if you know this but all male protagonists in anime are basically just self-inserts.

unless you're going for the middle school crowd with shonen jump type shit. that wouldn't even work as a vtuber because you're still just playing games and streaming, not kagebunshin no jutsuing in epic fight scenes.

>>1198031
>Kazuma
You mean a normal-looking dude wearing a plain t-shirt and windbreaker? That kazuma? Wow that's so radical and different from what you're bitching about

>>1196967
I would do some practice streams talking about your thought process as you play, anecdotes that come to mind, riffs on the scenes or plot if you're good at that, or whatever kind other kind of convo you're good at.

I wasn't totally sure about this whole thing bc I never streamed 'normally' before but doing that helped me realize streaming is pretty fun in general.

Also having consistent talking is good for pop in/pop out viewers and VODs.

>>1197488
Interface and settings are definitely better, also L2DV has a mobile companion app, so if you have a decent enough phone (if you have an iPhone, even better) you can use it for the face tracking so all the tracking is handled by the phone instead of your computer, specially useful if you have a mid-range system to save on resources.
>decent enough phone
I have a shitty Huawei P8 Lite and with a bit of smoothing the tracking is good enough.

>>1198526
>all male protagonists in anime are basically just self-inserts.

just go the battleborn route with character design, that worked out so well and successful for them, right?

>>1198620
Obviously I'm refering to his main outfit you tard, also I wasn't even the original anon you were arguing with but they have a point. Kazuma's fantasy/adventuring design is simple, but it still stands out in the sea of hoodies and messy-haired anime boys, mostly because of the colour contrasting and cowl casting a unique silhouette.

>>1199197
Oh wow he's got a cape, that makes it so much more unique. Never seen that before.

>>1199221
>>1199197
Oh and you wouldn't see anything below his shoulders in a stream so
Yeah

that anon 3 weeks from now
>why does everyone have a generic guy with a cape!?!?!

whenever i want to do anything, i always ask my followers what they think. is this a good idea? (i poll them on which game(s) i should try next, or simply ask what they want to see from me)
personally, i think that knowing the opinions of the people that watch and read your content is something important. also, i feel like this makes more engagement with the audience almost.

>>1199268
Nah, he won't be satisfied till everyone is an overblinged anime protagonist with two multicolored (in different ways in each eye ofc) eyes, with some shonen spike hair with an elaborate helmet, fangs, facial hair, a cape with pauldrons, a stupidly detailed shirt/blouse, a couple asymmetric pieces of armor or clothing, and also a super saiyan energy glow around him.

And THEN he'll come back and go
>REEEEE WHY IS EVERYONE USING AN OVERDESIGNED WEEBSHIT CHARACTER WHY CANT WE JUST HAVE A NORMAL LOOKING GUY CHARACTER????

>>1199433
you just reminded me of all those sonic OCs with horrifically clashing colors from early 2000s, thanks for making me gag just in time for lunch

>>1195784
they were literally engaged before he trooned out and decided he needed a "man in his life". She's fucking Ethan Ralph now and LARPing as a trad christian waifu to grift off the Killstream audience

>>1199268
>>1199243
Its the reason why I took a unique look. Since 2d doesnt move below the shoulders, using what you have to make a decent design that stands out to the eye helps.

Kazuma look is a basic, but unique design among the hoodie wearing demon/catboy/lolrandom dude design

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAozi82icds

>>1199221
Oh you're just baiting, okay. May as well keep talking about why Kazuma's design works anyway to help out other anons lurking.
>Easy to draw for fan art
>Bears similarity to other already existing characters from other franchises (mainly Rance), fitting since they share some character traits
>Can clearly tell he is a fantasy character just from looking at him, meaning people who tune into an episode of Konosuba randomly don't have to read backstory on what's going on
>Mixture of relatable features for self inserting (normal hair colour, scrawny physique) and anime protagonist elements to signify his importance (Bright greens and golds, blue eyes)
There are lots of Vtubers, so it's important to stand out. Character design is actually quite complicated, and requires far more thinking than just picking your favourite colours and clothing you like and slapping it onto an anime boy. Certain anime characters are popular for more reasons than just the cool things they do, so everyone SHOULD be looking to them, or other popular fictional characters, for inspiration. Wear a hoodie if you want, but just don't be suprised when people find your appearance boring.

Keep it interesting friends!
>>1199346
That's healthy to an extent. Getting an idea of what exactly your current audience enjoys about you and your content is great, and getting feedback and ideas for future plans is also good. You should be careful you don't give them too much control though. Catering to your audience is important, but sometimes they might not even show up despite you doing what they wanted, and you stand the chance of alienating new viewers that aren't "in the loop" as long as others. This is why the analytics tools are great, since by views, line graphs and other info you can determine what is and isn't working without directly risking interacting with them.

>>1199717
>why Kazuma's design works
everything you listed applies only to a pre-written and scripted plotline for a story driven character arc.

it doesn't work for a vtuber. no one is coming into your channel asking "wow, i wonder how this vtuber is gonna play a protagonist during his streams" or "i wonder what plotline will be fleshed out in this episode"

>>1196163
>>1197488
I struggled with the chroma key on Live2DEX due to the way it puts the model on your desktop and it took me a while to find the windowed view option since the settings are distributed too many different places throughout the app IMO. I think it's supposedly lighterweight than PrPr so I would like to comparison test, PrPr is just easier for me to quick start when I want to stream more immediately.

Considering all the investments anons are making in here, a few bux for different app options was an easy buy decision even before I was sure I wanted to do this.

>>1198676
Is the app stable in your experience? I stupidly never noticed it was available for Android until now but it does have that 'in development' tag on it.

>>1199717
Literally what >>1199759 said. You started saying it in >>1198031 , but I wasn't sure if you were really so retarded as to be going "so here's all these character traits you'd never know from looking at a character's appearance, anyways all these things that have nothing to do with appearance are why [design] is bad!" Funny you're saying I'm baiting when you're pointing at Kazuma as the "ideal vtuber character" during a discussion ABOUT VISUAL CHARACATER DESIGN when 95% of his "appeal", by your own admission, are immutable/intangible personality traits.

>>1199717
>why Kazuma's design works
Kazuma is a generic bland protagonist that is completely uninteresting and serves as basic self insert.
His design sucks. I don't know if he is a fantasy hero or generic medieval farmer's son #37.
As a fanartists I have zero desire to draw him because shit is so generic and unchallenging, same for most I know. If I ever drew him was to bait brainless idiots like (You) into following my account and support my patreon.
>and requires far more thinking than just picking your favourite colours and clothing you like and slapping it onto an anime boy
The most popular male vtuber design in the world is a white-haired, red-eyes Neet wearing an adidas track suit.
The one's who follow him are an office slave with generic salaryman clothing, a farmer, some dude in highschool uniform, some dude with a vest and a manly voice, some spike haired dude with a blackand red jacked wearing sunglasses, a generic blonde fantasy knight and a generic looking barman.
Besides, this advice is immediatly contradictory to your example, because you tout generic-as-fuck Kazuma as a great design and immediatly tell people to pick designs that aren't generic as fuck.

>>1185530
That's a pretty plain design, anon. Not the type to stand out in a crowd or attrack much attention. Don't know if that was your intention, but looks like a VN npc

How do I shill myself?
I'm not planning on streaming for now, just making videos (you might remember me from a couple of threads ago, the not-strictly-a-vtuber question) and I suspect just throwing it into the void wouldn't be enough to get more than a few views.
Any suggestions? It's garbage but I'd still like to give this video some sort of exposure.

>>1197722
Wasn't there a trap character already? Who voices them?

>>1200448
>Twitter
find hashtags and keywords related to your content that others are currently using. upload short clips of your work, tagged appropriately, and just tweet 'em out like twice a day (you can even schedule them to set and forget)

>Tiktok
same thing as twitter

>Reddit
find appropriate ones, toss them up, but don't "shill" yourself, instead ask for advice and pointers because you're new and just starting out. it'll trigger their savior complex and they'll come out and support you.

>>1200016
There's a vtuber I follow that LITERALLY did this already, and has grown a small following. ZenNoKiseki

How well-received would a vtuber that looked sorta like Sig be (basically broad, strongman and bearded, rather than typical ikemen/bishounen looks)?

>>1197893
Sunred
Mechazawa
Favaro
The dudes from Redline
Monokuma

>>1200734
Like Gilzaren III?

>>1200865
Nah, Gilzaren is still pretty ikemen with his build. Note how his shape still has that traditional bodybuilder V-shape taper to it. Strongman build is more 'barrell-chested' and broadly shaped, like a big ol' kegger of a burly bastard.

Actually, facebook is suck.

>>1201090
So what like this? Hard to say. You might attract the bara crowd more than anyone else plus the handful of chicks who are into dad-lookin' fuckers.

>>1201090
See your point, anon. I know Minamoto Genki, Glizaren, and an indie I follow DragoBancho
was the only one I know of that rock the buff more muscular look.

I'd be down for more strongman powerlifter type vtubers.

What is the market rate for an L2D or 3D model commission these days?

>>1201309
Same. They'd definitely be a pretty niche market value in their own right. Shame that there's probably not a lot of room for personal input when auditioning at Cover, or else I'd pitch something like that to them as a form of "Look, there's an entire market of fujoshi out there and teen girls with daddy issues just waiting for you to market this to them!"

>buff avatar, wimpy ass mid 20 white boy mouth noises

>>1201386
>>1201309
If there are any other indies doing this gimmick drop some names/links. As a femanon I think these designs are cute and non-threatening kind of like Aru-papa or other ojisan type designs, I wish more guys who aren't actively trying to be lewd or Mr Cool Guy or something would try it, especially if they can pull off a pleasant and at least somewhat fitting voice tone.

>>1201657
Obviously you wanna match your voice to an appropriate character design.

Then again, if you (not you specifically, the figurative 'you') are so utterly lacking as to not be able to recognize which character your voice would best suit, then vtubing is probably not a good career path.

Does it have to be iphone x or is any generation after fine too?

>>1201807
I have a pretty chill, relaxing tone of voice and am Scandinavian. If I had the money to put towards something like this I'd totally try to set myself up as an indie, styled after a Nordic troll.

Basically take this kind of look and alter it to look a bit more like Sig or Reinhardt up there.

>>1201807
>non-threatening
what the fuck is wrong with the female brain

>>1202042
it helps avoid nice guys

>>1200734
Same as with every other design.
It depends on how well you can match it with your performance more than anything.

If you sound like a beast and can exude cool uncle energy, it'll work and you'll get a following. If you can't, you won't.

>>1201807

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/932604019

skip to the last interview

Do you think this quality of chuuba design and rigging would be worth $1000 total?

https://youtu.be/_xJlJednpgw

>>1202069
>>1202215
You talking about another guy I follow, Randon?

Here's his channel:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMfMBbR9UBNvUyN8fujbJVw

>>1202215
randon is super chill and his streams are pretty comfy

>>1202069
rape is good and often funny desu senpai

Thoughts on going with a slightly less polished art style, but going all out on rigging?

>>1202042
Same anon, since I am here in the first place I can't speak for what all girls want to hear but I would rather watch a fully in-character male Vtuber (regardless of gender an overall more specific and niche character type always helps with this) than some dude who might as well be the latest streaming groomer/coomer just with an anime picture over him.

Also 'nonthreatening' is pretty much the core concept of boys-marketed-to-teens for the last 50 or more years so I think it's relevant from a business POV. I'm not really into true 'fujo' stuff but a lot of it falls into this bucket with all the varieties of actual and implied male/male ships - the implication is sexual aggression/initiation is not directed at the girl audience member, they're just voyeuristic of it.

>>1202440
If that's the model, I'd say to give a few more passes on the face. It's proportionally a little unappealing. Some light tweaks would make it shine.

>>1201807
Been working on that type of vibe, since Belmond and Aru-Papa were some of my design inspirations. Wanted to have that older ikemen design. Still working on the vocal coaching to provide me with a beefier voice to match.

>>1202585
No, that's just some work from the artist I have in mind. I think the slightly uncanny look might suite the character, and I have a soft spot for gothic lolita. But I should probably just go for a more experienced artist.

>>1202440

I'd rather have memorable art than polished art. Doesn't matter if some bigshot japanese artist does your art for thousands of dollars, if the concept is forgettable.

>>1200734
A lot of it is going to hinge on your performance and voice otherwise you'll end up coming off as mismatched as the ugly bastard vtuber.

>>1201336

Full body live2d art+rig = ~1000-1500usd

full body 3d rig that isnt vroid garbage = 1500-2000

This is for quality. You can get fiverr garbage for 100 bucks if you have no standards

I am a little worried this will reveal my chuuba, but I want feed back from anons.
My chuuba is heavily inspired by Franken Fran and has some surgical and mutation oriented gimmicks, and is over all a little on the edgy side. If the stimulus check works out (USA anon here), I was thinking of kicking off my channel with an animated music video covering(and lightly parodying) an edgy song, and hiring a Fiverr musician to do the mixing and tracks. Is this a stupid idea? Is being unashamedly edgy a death sentence?

>>1202813
You need to strike a balance between self-aware without being a cringy "haha isn't this so ironic fellow kids?" type.

Also, something being kinda edgy doesn't mean it isn't also kinda cool, so make sure you're always cool at the same time.

>>1202813

as long as it isnt another fucking king cover, you have my support

>>1202868
Hmm, thanks for the feedback! The edginess is sincere, but I also realize that it might be a bit much to others.
>>1202874
Coincidentally it's more of an industrial song, not really typical idol or weeb stuff at all.

>>1202440
>>1202706
That looks like someone put a dress on a paper scanner to be honest and the inexperienced shading is incredibly one-dimensional. The hair is going to cause a lot of problems in rigging too. Except for the teenage-angst details to the eyes there's not really any originality to that outfit at all either that you wouldn't be able to find elsewhere, furthermore the artist has no apparent knowledge of how ruffles and frills work which is probably absolutely essential for gothic lolita clothing.

>>1202813
>>1202868
think about how kongou acts like an absolute chuubibyou but because he plays into it as a genuine thing it comes off as cool rather than try hard
I think if you really commit to a style like that and treat it as something genuine it really helps your character

>>1203122
>because he plays into it as a genuine thing it comes off as cool rather than try hard
i actually hate that attitude because it's the one most weebs default to when roleplaying a character for some reason, he just takes it over the top and i genuinely cannot stand it.

Someone I know that wants to vtube got this as their avatar for 25$.

>>1203155
Lol

>>1203148

Same personally I can't watch kongou.

But as an entertainer it's better to be all or nothing. A viewer that stumbles into your stream either loves you or loathes you.

That's 100 times better than inoffensive but also utterly forgettable. Being forgettable is a deathknell for streaming

>>1203148
I can definitely see why it would be off putting to some people but I probably find it to be charming
I think it's just one of those cases where you definitely can't please everyone but I think for the people who like it it's very enjoyable
>>1203155
I mean... I guess that art is worth $25? Can't imagine he'd find someone that would want to rig that.

>>1203148
Take an improv acting class, anon.
You don't do half energy, and you don't hold back. The most basic thing people learn when they study acting as a skillset is to fuckin'... go for it.

>>1202767
At least I can hang out with Marine then!

>>1203155

Oof

>>1203155
is.... is it rigged well or something?....at least?...

>>1203155
>Mom can we have Joker?
>We have Joker at home

>>1203369
It's only used as an emote in their discord server nowadays. He's using a VRoid preset black hoodie with preset white hair model now unfortunately.

>>1203435
This is the first time I've ever had to say this:
I can see why he'd do that. Vroid is way better than his other option.

I hope to heaven that I never have cause to say such a thing again.

>>1184297
>Who exactly are your targeted audience?
I want a mixed cross-section of audience, with a slight slant toward more witty or intelligent people.

>What kind of community do you want to foster?
I want a community that I can tease, and that will tease me back. I think wholesome ribbing is a sign of true friendship.

What if you want to chuuba because you're lonely?

>>1203487
that sounded really gay like you were asking me to tease your asshole with a ribbed condom.

>>1203493
You'll fit right in with everyone else.
That's a very common reason for wanting to get into it.

>>1203513
I've been known to flirt a bit.
I try to avoid being crass, though. You should as well. It'll improve your vocabulary at least.

>>1202698
> vocal coaching to provide me with a beefier voice to match.

Does that even work? From what I've heard it's possible to slightly elongate the vocal cords but after puberty things won't change much. I was told that it was better to dial in onto the natural sound for your voice and focus on improving the general sound of that instead even if it is higher pitched.

>>1203493
like half the holos became idols because they wanted to make friends

Does anyone want a fellow anon's genuine feedback on their chuuba or channel progress as a viewer? Sure it's just my opinion but I think it's important to have some confidence and pride in yourself. I'll be gentle.

>>1203550
To explain, you need to understand the difference between PITCH and REGISTER.

Your REGISTER won't change--your approximate natural middle point is locked in.

You can train to widen your PITCH almost infinitely both higher and lower, though you get diminishing returns after a bit.

Basically, it's like any other skill. If you practice basketball 9 hours a day, every day for a year you're going to be really fuckin good at it. Sure, most people who go pro will have a natural edge on body type or negroid-ity, but a hard worker will still get very close to that level. You can, with proper practice methods and enough effort, get the pitch you want.
Really the only thing is how much effort it's worth. Trying to go a full octave or more up/down could take a year of ridiculously dedicated training, and you have to ask yourself if that's worth that level of effort for your project.

>>1203550
Its like what this anon said >>1203627
As stupid as it is to say this, but I've worked in customer service and and learned to speak from the nose alot. Your register is what it is, but speaking and projecting from the diaphragm can give you a more consistent voice.
I use voicemod to slightly give me a touch more bass. Keeps my voice sounding natural without sounding shit

So who here has already debuted? Give me some examples. So I can laugh at them.

>>1203865
me but I never did that stupid tba shit nor did i have a designated debut stream

i just started

>>1203892
Please shill yourself

>>1197722
>what do good male anime characters look like?
Chad that can kick everyone's ass in the room and steal everyone's woman while doing it. WTF, you really don't know what masculinity appealing?

>>1203865
I'm coming up on a month of streaming by the end of the week
I might post myself here at some point but I don't think I'm ready to do that just yet

>>1203940
>he thinks what incels view as "masculine" is what a vtuber audience will view as "masculine"
bet you also think you know what type of men are attractive to women as well

Requisites to being a successful vtuber;

-Be confident! which you're not
-Be interesting! which you're not
-Have a nice voice! which you don't

>>1203865
>>1203865
I debuted in August of last year. Not 100% ready to shill myself, since Im still a work in progress with my mic and content yet.

Mainly playing games as content, but playing the random obscure and new mecha, fighting and horror games, not bandwagon shit. Did that with Fall guys and hated it.

>>1204100
That pretty much everyone in the community.

>>1204100
>you're not confident yet
>you don't think you're interesting to yourself
>you don't have a nice voice because you're not used to it

>>1199934
Yep, you can choose between connecting to your system via local network or USB, though USB will obviously work better. I only struggle a bit with the sliders for the expression settings because my phone is pretty small, but other than that it always recognizes it instantly.
>I struggled with the chroma key on Live2DEX due to the way it puts the model on your desktop and it took me a while to find the windowed view option since the settings are distributed too many different places throughout the app IMO
True, some settings are a bit obscure to find sometimes, but overall you can manage. There's also a lot of documentation for the app and there's video tutorials by the dev on how to connect to the phone app and all.

Documentation: http://live2d.pavostudio.com/doc/en-us/
Dev's channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXsCqZFNLrrHZ_AyExLL1dQ/featured

My fellow Americans, it looks like the bill with the stimulus checks passed. Not to be political, but yay! We can get premium chuubas and rigging!

>>1204555
doesn't it go out in like late March / April? with the hype that's already going on, it might be pretty difficult to secure a commission spot. it's pretty rough for the higher quality stuff even now.

>in these threads like a week or two asking about stuff
>couldn't think of an actual "character" so thought about just streaming as myself with an avatar for the most part
>felt off about it so lost interest and drifted away from it
>suddenly today everything 'clicks' and I know the character I want, backstory, an idea of what they look like, how the different interface screens will look, how they'll function, special interface functionality I'll need to make, some bot functions...
Fuck I don't know what happened but its like a fire has been lit. Couldn't fucking stop thinking about it all day. Now I'm on weekend so I can start planning properly and figure out if this is just a flash-in-the-pan interest or something worth dropping a bunch of money on.

>>1204100
Jokes on you

I'm so confident that it's obnoxious
I'm so interesting that it's damaging to my health
I have such a nice voice that I get called "ma'am" all the time on the phone, even though I am a guy... which is really annoying.

>>1204647
Good luck anon, hope you stay motivated

>>1204555
Yay, nothing.
I don't want to get all political either, but that bill is less than 10% actually going to Americans
It's the worst kind of disgusting politician crap. Should've gone with the Republican plan, which nixed all the foreign aid and would've given every American 10k instead.

Would you want mainly people from /vt/ watching your streams or is your preferred public elsewhere?

>>1204885
I want everyone.

>>1203913
thanks fren but i'm too chickenshit to do so here, i'm also a literal who

live tonight though maybe we'll cross paths if the stars align

>>1204885

I think /vt/ approval is the closest you'll get to knowing if your content is good. Twitter is a circlejerk for trashtier vtubers and reddit has a savior complex and obsesses over mediocrity.

If you're shit /vt/ doesn't pull any punches.

>>1204885
i'll take anyone as long as they have a good time and can tolerate my presentation style wherein i rant about good design elements for like four hours at a time honestly

>>1204885
I would want /vt/ anons, because they are both more sincere and less sensitive.

>>1195474
It sucks this bait didnt get more (you)s

>>1204885
i wouldn't mind having /vt/ viewers but i don't think i want that to be my only audience

>>1195474
I'm not female, but I'm in.

>>1204100
>-Be confident! which you're not
No, but I can fake it really well.

>-Be interesting! which you're not
You got me there.

>-Have a nice voice! which you don't
This I actually do have.

>>1204100
W-watch me succeed with none of these traits!

>>1205309
I believe in you anon!

>>1205337
T-Thanks Anon! I don't.

>>1205383
Come on anon, enough with the self pity attitude. If you didn't believe in yourself even a little bit, why would you even be trying? You obviously have enough drive to at least see where it goes and to try and have fun.

Are any of you even actual women?

>>1205542
yo mama is a woman

>>1205578
Damn bro.

>>1205578
Based

>>1205542
No, but I'm not pretending to be one either.

>>1202767
I would unironically watch this vtuber

>>1205542
I can say for sure that >>1201807 is a woman since not even a troll would use "non-threatening" to define a model, that's something only a real woman would say

>>1205422
It's the last thing I want to waste my money on before suicide.

>>1184297
>face tracking software
>no mention of vtubestudio
why this again OP?

>>1205542
No
I'm just a cute boy with a cute boy avatar for streaming.

>>1205741
The OP also doesn't mention non-optical tracking methods either.
It's massively incomplete as a list.

>>1205542
no
i'm just a masc guy with an anime girl avatar because I like how she looks lmao

>>1202069
then wouldn't you want it to be threatening????

>Female talent driven business
>barely any females (female) in the thread
Oh yeah, this place is totally gonna make it.

>>1203262
Kek

Do I need to worry about copyright infringement or whatever if my character has an official logo from an established franchise displayed semi-prominantly?

>>1206540
We polled a few days ago and it's like 40 percent girls here

>>1206693
depends on how popular you get and whether or not they notice you

>>1206693
That mostly just seems like a ticking time bomb. As soon as you have the money they'd hit you as hard as they can.

>>1206693
Hello Kitty bandaid vroid girl?

>>1205669
He could review H-mangos and animations.

>>1206693
that is a lawsuit waiting to happen.

>>1207510
>>1206929
>>1206849
So how do like, normal themed youtube channels monetize?
Star Wars Explained streams like, every week, monetized and with superchats and the star wars logo prominently in frame, yet are totally fine. What makes it different once Live2D is involved?

>>1207655
I assume in those cases its because the channel is a transformative work that just happens to be using those licenses. If you have the logo just as part of your character/interface but isn't really "doing" anything with it, then thats just kinda co-opting the logo.

>>1207655
those fall under fair use because they're "transforming" the work. they're not just slapping on a star wars logo, the content they're making is actually a discussion/commentary about the star wars piece. they're not just tossing the logo up there and going about their lives.

>>1207692
>>1207689
Ah I see. Okay I'm not as worried as I thought then.

Without getting too specific I'm doing a similar framchise-centric channel with content that focusses on it, and streaming on the side. The logo is small enough too that worst case scenario I remove that layer from my L2D model

>>1207775
Odd that its part of your actual model, but other than that it seems about normal for specific brand discussion.

>>1206346

Nice guys are extremely threatening. They go from M'lady to fucking whore you think ur better than me ill kill you so fast the second they think you're snubbing them

>>1207775
if it's just on your character, you may run into trademark issues because it's possible that someone might think you're licensed or officially sponsored by that company. and that's another set of legal issues. i don't know why you're bothering with it so much though.

Where's a good place to advertise high quality L2D models?

I've made like 5 of them now but only 3 are actually extremely high quality enough that I can advertise with them.

I think you guys underestimate how valuable an interesting model is. Give it a unique trait for rigging and you're going to capture people's attention immediately.

>>1207997
twitter, tiktok, youtube, reddit, the usual places where weebs with excessive disposable income thirst after commissions

>>1207930
>>1207966

>Odd that its part of your actual model
It works in it's context. It's not actually the logo of the franchise, but the logo of one of the franchises militaries

>>1208023
Honestly I didn't think about reddit, but that might be a good place to try as well, thanks

>>1207997
This thread.

>>1207997

It's not that most people underestimate uniqueness. Most people are fear-driven and risk averse. They shy away from anything that might get hate, and thus the end vtuber model is brown haired isekai protagonist #52151231 or blue haired shojo protagonist #95123563

i'm not surprised that the non gaming stream series that i do seems to consistently pick up the most amount of chat interaction and views regularly but it feels really nice when people jump into the middle of things and tell me that i'm doing a good job explaining the things i'm talking about
regardless of whether or not i make it in the end, this feels like i'm at least in the process of making it

>>1207943
gotcha.
the word you wanted is confident i think

I don't want to apply to be an idol; I want to apply to Cover management to fix their sorry excuse of company. How do I do that?

>>1208188
Oh yeah?

I unironically can make Hololive tier models, but I don't think 4chan is the place to get clients. I've been selling my models for around $1000, the last one ended up at $2000+ because they wanted tons of arms.
Maybe I could throw a trash email to someone if they're really curious.

>>1208208
That's a pathetic mindset in such an oversaturated market.

You guys really got to start going big or go home by this point. The Vtuber community is in an insane crunch and good models/rigs are becoming far more expensive than usual.

Iron Vertex just raised all of their prices and still can't train newbie riggers quick enough to handle all the demand. One of my clients is literally willing to pay $4000 for an insane rigger.

Now's the time to step up you fucks. Get yourself a model with like fancy glowing effects, stars, gems, wings, blooming flowers, fucking anything original. I beg you.

>>1208542
Be a japanese salaryman

>>1208746
Do you do rigging as well? I'm interested in eventually commissioning someone for an abomination variant of my chuuba, inspired by the monsters in Saya no Uta and Tetsuo's final form in Akira. I'd like it to pulse and gush a bit, and have at least one eye moves with my own. I was worried that I would have to figure out how to draw and rig on my own to get something like that.

>>1208746
Yeah just make a throwaway if you want, or link to twitter or whatnot.

>Get yourself a model with like fancy glowing effects, stars, gems, wings, blooming flowers, fucking anything original. I beg you.
Well I definitely wont be wanting any of that. I still gotta hammer out the details for what kind of design I want but it's gonna be more muted, in a sense. Colourful and bright wouldn't fit my content style. My main inspiration for the design concept is George Kamitani's Dwarf from Dragons Crown. I would spend nearly any amount of money if I could get him to do a design.

>>1208923
I don't rig since it isn't a valuable enough skill for me to put time into. It's more profitable for me to focus on what I'm already a professional at then spend a year learning how to do actually GOOD rigging. Average rigging is not enough.

I have designed and drawn one monster before. It was a successful, but truthfully stressful experience since it required a lot of learning. The biggest problem for monster designs is two things-

1- Finding an artist that will not be repulsed by your offer. For some reason, people really hate monsters, and I assume that is because a lot of artists like to stay in their comfort zone. After my experience I can see why that would be the case, but honestly I pride myself a lot on any modeling job.

2- FINDING A FUCKING RIGGER. Good fucking luck. There is only one monster rigger I know of and it's definitely going to cost anyone to have something decent made, my own client hasn't even had their model rigged so I can't confirm the quality you could get with whoever I recommend.

Seriously good luck to you man. I love monsters, but they're rough since this is such an unstable and experimental market.

>>1209000
>George Kamitani's Dwarf from Dragons Crown
Very neat ngl. He has some really strong shapes and cool proportions for his designs going on.

I guess I'll give it a shot. I only have 1 slot free anyway.
veetoobah@gmail.com

>>1209517
>Very neat ngl. He has some really strong shapes and cool proportions for his designs going on.
He's my absolute favourite artist, I love all of his work. Not sure I want to actually call in a commission yet, but do you give previous work examples if requested? Via email of course, not in the thread.

>>1209692
I can't imagine it's possible to get anyone to spend money on a model without providing examples, so yes
Probably going to have to figure that out.

>>1210004
Honestly the best idea may be to grab a branded email, spin up a twitter/whatever, and just use that for that specific services. Have your best examples displayed prominently and whatnot. Though as its vtuber models, I imagine you may need to get their permission depending on how your licensing works.

You're all cute

>>1210653
N-No u

>>1210653
t-thanks

What's the point of waiting for this dumb rigged avatar and stuff, I think I'm just going to start streaming and linking my shit absolutely everywhere to build hype

>>1210760
I'm waiting for a nice artist to come along to make me a PNG, then I can start!
...any day now

>>1210760
>What's the point of waiting for this dumb rigged avatar and stuff
...You mean, the vtuber model? The basis for a vtuber? I mean, sure you can stream and whatnot but its going to be missing a core part of being a vtuber.

>>1210760
Soulless cringe my dude

>>1210813
Just be a disembodied voice over gameplay footage to get comfortable talking into the void, then when you've got your chuuba shit sorted out either rebrand or start fresh and begin building debut hype

>>1211027
I suppose I COULD start with my mspaint tier concept art...... but that would be embarrassing

>>1211201
Isn't there one japanese vtuber thats been rocking an mspaint tier model for a while now?

>>1211201
>>1211241
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq8u9iiEXAWPqFiI93is8qg

>>1211241
yeah but its at least slightly rigged and they are a "girl" so that's easy mode. i am a male with a male avatar so i don't get bonus points

>>1211343
Fuck your bonus points. One point is a hell of a lot higher than zero you get for not streaming. I wouldn't go with the mspaint model, myself.

>>1211384
>spoiler
yeah so we're back at square one

>>1211469
When you say "a nice artist to come along", are you actually out looking for one to commission? Or just hoping a drawfag or something will do art for you randomly?

>>1211489
I've looked around but I never felt like I saw an artstyle that I thought my design would look nice in. But I guess I'm being picky. Not to mention finding an artist isn't easy in the first place

>>1210653
Shut up, baby, I know it!

I thought of becoming a vtuber so I could stream me drawing badly but my pc is too bad for it

>Have multi-armed monster girl OC that'd be perfect for VTubing
>3D artists won't touch her with a ten foot pole because of the extra arms
Is my only option truly going the L2D route? Or should I not even bother because I have the male debuff

Who is the best Live2D artist for loli-esque[/spoiler designs?

>>1208923
>Do you do rigging as well? I'm interested in eventually commissioning someone for an abomination variant of my chuuba, inspired by the monsters in Saya no Uta and Tetsuo's final form in Akira. I'd like it to pulse and gush a bit, and have at least one eye moves with my own. I was worried that I would have to figure out how to draw and rig on my own to get something like that.

Your model idea tends to trigger Youtube's AI and cause it to hand out TOS violations like that one Haachama video. Better keep it to Twitch.

My character sheet has gone mildly viral on Twitter
I'm really excited. Nice things keep happening to me. I may be able to make this vtuber thing work after all!

>>1213048
You think so anon? I am inspired by Haachama, but I was thinking I'd be fine on YT because a blobomination wouldn't register as anything on the AI.

>>1213241
Good for you anon! That's awesome!

>>1213323
Now I just need to avoid telling the public what I think about the Chinese! or the Jews. or the gays. or the blacks.

>>1213530
under what possible circumstance would things like that ever come up during a regular stream?

>>1213530
Maybe you can fake a funny foreign accent so that people give you the benefit of the doubt?

>>1213721
>>1213724
I was kidding just now, anyway.

That said, a lot of not-so-subtly based people are following my Twitter, so I'm guessing people have found me out.

>>1213724

unfathomably based solution

>>1213833
>>1213530
>>1213241

I think I know who you are, you're doing "reps" right now arent you?

>>1213253
"gore" thumbnails will set off the AI instantly.

I have finally found the artist I want to commission for my Live 2D model, and the rigger I want as well. They are even friends and typically work together. Now once my lovely concept artist is done, the ball will get rolling!

>>1214926

never thought I'd live to see the day 4chan becomes a bunch of rigger-loving traitors

How do you go about hiring people without doxxing yourself?
Can't do the paypal business thing legally here without doing an extra thing that would doxx me anyway (Unless theres a workaround, but I'm a nobody so doesn't feel right talking to my established countrymen chuubas)

>>1184297
What's the best tracking program if you're using a usb camera instead of a phone?
It is a pretty good camera if that helps.

>>1215437

prprlive is probably the best you can do right now

But Vtube studio is adding webcam support at the end of March, that will almost certainly be better than prprlive

>>1215437
prprlive + game animoji dlc has been working really well for me

Unfortunately I have run out of funds, so it seems I will be going by way of Kano-chan for a little while.

>>1215379
This probably isn't what you want to hear but I just paid one of those PayPal invoices you can pay with a credit card rather than logging into my account. I assume the recipient can still see the payment details associated with that card, so in my case I am just trusting their professionalism as an artist since they have been chill to communicate with. With the popularity of anonymous VTubing I would think its in most artists' interest to be cool on this point unless they're really immature or you intend on yab'ing out on stream in a way that would make someone want to reveal your info.

What would be some good lines for a vocal demo? I have 0 talent in writing.

>>1215379
You're not getting doxxed unless you make it big which won't happen anyway.
But if you really care just don't hire furry artists or other cheap artists and you're fine.

>>1215476
Any way to get this to work without Steam/as a standalone or do I need to set up a different account with family sharing on if I don't want people I know to see me using it?

>>1217082

sorry anon prprlive is steam only for the foreseeable future.

>>1215379
It's basically unheard of for professionals or freelancers to give up client information. Most patronage sites don't expose payer information to creators, so if you're looking at some artists, do some research into alternate methods of payment they may be able to accept.

Other anon mentioned PayPal invoices - I've used these before and they do expose the client's name to the business.

>>1214080
I can neither confirm nor deny!

The spike in popularity is handy though.

Easiest shit in the world to both commission and rig while still being substantially unique (for now): A motherfuckin' slime.

Seriously. Think about it. All you need is to make the eyes and maybe a tiny little mouth that moves along a spherical surface. Transparency of the slime body is optional.

And that's it! Cash in hand, motherfuckers.

>>1220320
done already

>>1220320
Non-humanoid model is a huge debuff, though.
Humans are naturally wired to recognize and be drawn to other humans.

>>1212926
Any of them. Lolis are just anime girls but shorter

>>1215379
No one you hire would dox you unless they never ever want to have any business again anyway.

Instead of spending the entire budget on an artist who specifically creates cut PSDs, what about saving some of the money you would have spent on the art and commissioning an uncut image from an artist instead and using the money you would have spent on a really good rigger who can cut the image and fully rig it?

>>1226424
Probably costs the same amount of time if not more, so it depends on the rates of the artist and rigger in question.

>>1224036
UglyMuffinTop...

>>1226424
Wouldn't a 'cut' image be lower quality by default than a properly done model? I think the route I'll go is to get a full reference sheet done then pay someone to make a model based on that.

>>1226865
>Wouldn't a 'cut' image be lower quality by default than a properly done model?
....no? why would it? it's the same picture, but all the moving parts are just on separate layers.

Anyone got a decent live2d tutorial?
I'm trying to do a model from scratch but it always looks kind of off while using a template

Trying to find examples for gruff/older male designs is a pain in the ass. So many commission artists just show off cute anime girls. I mean, I know *why*, its just a pain.

>>1227869
How old are you talking? Like pizza dad or just not a high schooler?

>>1227843
Live2D has a ton of simple tutorials on their main website https://docs.live2d.com/cubism-editor-tutorials/top/

>>1227910
I'm thinking late thirties to forties region for the design sense. And a more medium build instead of slim, especially as a dwarf.

>>1228019
Try some of the stuff posted so far: Sig Curtis, Reinhardt from Overwatch, the Dwarf from Dragon's Crown, Gorons, etc.

>>1228044
Oh no, I meant finding examples from artists that I can commission. I have a bunch of reference images already together along with more specific ideas I want. It's actually finding who to commission thats the hard part. Dwarf from Dragon's Crown is the main inspiration. Mainly because I love George Kamitani's art.

If I want to be a male mecha pilot is it better to wear a pilot suit or casual mecha clothing like pic related?
I like the idea of wearing a pilot suit more but since that way I could put a helmet on as an accessory but I doubt there are many mecha fans among vtuber watchers.

>>1228099
Oh! That's easy: Look for artists that primarily deal in gay shit like bara. It's an unfortunate reality that the only ones who will draw that stuff at a high enough level are the ones who want to see them get deep dicked.

>>1228124
i see a couple on twitter, but very few of them do commissions, and of those, even fewer are currently open/accepting.

>>1228122
You could always start with the pilot suit and add an alternate casual outfit option later.

>>1228196
Try Pixiv. Alternatively try scouring places like Sankaku for the bara tag in order to narrow down artists. It'll take a fair amount of scuffing until you find an artist for something this niche, but it shouldn't be impossible.

>>1228124
Well... I guess that makes sense. I'll take a look in that area too. I assume it'll mostly be a western thing as well. IIRC George Kamitani's artstyle is heavily influenced by western stuff like Frank Frazetta.

>>1228279
Yeah I know it'll take some work.

/auds/ whatever you do dont end up like her
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFgqFUMxJVo

Avoid leeches, and discords at all costs

>>1228522
>western vtuber
>entire content is nothing but shitting on other western vtubers
>I'm not like other girls- i mean, i'm not like other western vtubers!!
when will this trend stop?

>>1228522
>I guess I have the need to categorize myself
>LGTBQ+ genre on her vtubie profile
I wonder why.
Also why does it say she debuted in 2018 when her oldest tweet and video are from December?
Seems like a filthy liar to me.

>>1228792
Its a trend?

>>1229504
More like a lifestyle for this particular generation of desperate snowflakes. Every generation has its attention whores who need to be "more super original than the other super originals" that they simultaneously are all exactly the same as to the point where they might as well be factory-made.

Before this it was the furries. Before them it was the emos. In this case, however, it definitely peaked during the Tumblr era and hasn't stopped since then. I imagine it's because unlike furries and emos, the alphabet brigade was able to infect the mainstream enough to force legislation on their behalf, and as a result that gives them a false sense of power.

>>1229504
yes, they join discords and twitters expecting everything to conform to their headcanon of what Hololive looks like. then they quickly find out that everyone is just in it for clout and get salty about it. a couple of weeks later, they're ranting on twitter about how western vtubers aren't exactly like hololive, about how much they hate the fake uwu voices westerners do (despite HoloJP also doing fake uwu voices), etc. etc.

this video won't stay up that long once the rest of the vtweeters find it and start harassing her on discord and try to shitstir on twitter.

>>1228792
Isn't this just the rebrand of Kitsune Katsumi? The same vtuber/model creator that was found using other people's assets in models she sold and made bad models then blocked the buyers after getting the cash? Nah, especially when she's on her live stream saying she's "disappointed " in customers that called her out because she did a shitty thing.

>>1228122
mecha pilot vtuber here. you can go in a lot of directions. You can go with a specific style similar to mecha pilots or you can go with a merge of styles.

What would you think of a vtuber whose gimmick is that they're a guy from Ancient Greece who wears a toga and thinks they're a philosopher, but is actually just a retarded pseud?

>>1230693
With enough self-awareness, this could be good. You can use that as a vehicle to teach the audience how to tell pseuds apart from non-pseuds

>>1230693
tell me what your daily stream would look like because a character background doesn't tell me anything about your content

>>1230297
Kazuma?

>>1230803
Honestly that's sorta the problem, I don't play any streamer games. I guess I would take recommendations from people who follow me. I do want to stream VNs and manga readalongs though.

>just received the files
>can't bring myself to open them
The real suffering has only just begun

>>1231245
as long as you don't come off as an undergrad who just took their first philosophy class and want to spout holy knowledge, go for it

>>1231245
The hell is a "streamer game"? Just play what you like and stuff you know about. That way you can bounce off it well. Just playing games because they're popular would be suffering.

>friend wants to be a Vtuber and asked me for input since I was thinking of the same
>has a clear idea and aesthetic for his character decided already
>I have no idea what I want
>as he asks me questions about his design something clicks and I finally figure out what I want from my own
>solid ideas are finally forming in my head

sometimes all it takes is talking to somebody.

>>1231245
So long as you're enthusiastic and can make talking about it sound interesting and engaging, I don't see any problem at all. Fubuki and Marine have an entire 'radio talk' segment where they just talk about their hobbies and interests, with Fubuki gushing about shit like her glasses fetish (which has even become a meme as a result) or how she adores post-apocalyptic aesthetics (the nature growing over destroyed cities, in particular).

I'd argue that you could make almost anything streamworthy, so long as you know how to work with it.

>>1231830
Literally, yes. The moment you get outside of your own head and start talking about your ideas the clusterfuck inside your brain starts to unravel and you start to think clearly.

>>1231230
Lmfao. Nah, I'm the first Mecha Pilot vtuber, Jin

Hey anons, can you help a retard out? I'm trying to screw around in vtube studio with a model I had used in facerig, as I've been able to upgrade to an iphone for actual good tracking. However trying to use the model seems to default to a frown expression and I'm not sure how to activate the other actions if it's at all possible. I just want to know from someone more learned than me if this is something I can fix on my own, or if this attempted switch is more complex than I thought and I'll need to get back in touch with the artist I commissioned from.

been slowly trying to learn how to rig my model, the process is tedious and I have no clue what im doing half the time but it's been fun to learn

>>1233551
Tell me about the buttons on the coat. What do them mean?

>>1232956
probably something you can fix yourself in the vtube studio model settings. Ask in their discord

>>1233551
Please just be a flat girl.
Heart pupils make me hard.

>>1233551
It looks really nice stationary, I hope it looks as good animated!

So these three chuuba girls are part of their own group called 3 Little Pigs, and they work together and what not. What I don't understand is that if you can by full body Live2D art for $500, and then hire their rigger and get the best package for $300, that's only $800. Why would you choose the "collab" option for $1000 when you can just hire them one at a time and save $200 bucks? The collab might be worth it if it came with extra expressions, or if the delivery was quicker.

>>1234054
Also these are only 2 of them, there is a 3rd girl but she doesn't do chuubas yet.

>>1234054
Seems strange, but maybe then it guarantees all three in one commission slot instead of hunting for 3 spots?

>>1233551
Cute design.

Do you have a YT/Twitch/Twitter yet? I want to follow.

How do you all usually plan your stream layouts? I was going to fire up an account for a UI/UX wireframing/prototyping service to get all my layouts figured out before getting the actual imagery/design done for them.

>>1231258
Post em here, anon

Any one have recs for live2d artists and riggers?

>12 days until my first model sketch arrives

It's like waiting for Christmas but if Christmas had a chance of being awful and you find out you wasted a thousand dollars on an artist that can't properly convey your vision. My palms sweat from both excitement and paranoia for the worst case scenario

>>1235204
Depends heavily on what you're looking for design-wise and your price range.

>>1235204
What's your price range for each

>>1235237
I'm in the under $600(for both) price range, and want pretty aesthetics but am not too worried about stunning gimmicks.

>>1235220
... You paid a thousand for a pre-sketch? I shiggydiggy.

>>1235269
No I paid a thousand upfront for the whole rig

>>1235240
Sorry, forgot to reply to this post. I was hoping for under $600 in total. For half body, with minor ear movement but no big gimmicks.

>>1235306
You can definitely get halfbody rigging for under 300 but finding an artist in that similar range is going to be a lot harder

>>1235298
>>1235269
Technically 900 actually but I'm rounding up

>>1235298
ask them if they can provide progress pics? artists who know what they're doing will give you updates to make sure that it's what the commissioner wants it and to make minor tweaks and changes before it's too late.

>>1235357
Yeah I'm going to. The process doesn't actually start for 12 days. I'm just simplifying things for the sake of the post

>>1235480
sweet, good luck on your journey anon, hope it's the best for you

>>1235526
Thanks friend

>>1235333
Hmm, maybe I should just go with bust up rigging for now, and devote $400 to the artist.

>>1235569
>>1235306
I hate to say it anon but you are probably going to have to go bust up exclusively for art too in that price range. Maybe somebody else can point you in a better direction than I can

>>1235637
Eh, that's okay anon! Maybe I just need to save up for longer instead.

To those of you who are active streamers and have three digit viewers (if you exist ITT).
Was there a moment in which you went from a nobody to someone with a following? like a trigger?
Or was it just a steady climb?

>>1233607
they're mostly just to add some color, and I wanted to sneak a dreamcast logo into the design
>>1233971
sorry anon I'm a guy
>>1233982
thanks anon! it's been going pretty well so far I just need to get a better grasp on how deformers work
>>1234343
not just yet, I promised myself i wouldn't get distracted by the social media game until my models done, so hopefully soon

>>1236426
>I'm a guy
even better

>>1236426
>sorry anon I'm a guy
Nice, 10/10 design.

>get my commission in
>it's exactly what I wanted
>about to try it out
>suddenly think of a way better character
someone please describe to me what I'm feeling because I don't have the words

>>1236852
Overthinking. You are overthinking.

Anon I'm sure your design is great. Just to say "well a better one exists" is silly because yeah obviously a better design exists. A better design will ALWAYS exist. Don't let it keep you down because at the end of the day all that's going to matter is your passion and the work you put in.

>>1236852
You're just having anxiety and a "grass is always greener" moment. Ignore it.

for people not ready to share their full design could we see some silhouettes?

>>1235348
Dude, what?
I got two entire character sheets from a popular/famous artist for about half that, totally finished.

You're scammed, son.

>>1236134
It helps to know people.

>>1238272
No I know where each dollar is going. My character is layered almost to the point of absurdity and I'm going with somebody semi-high profile

>>1238272
Which one? That sounds like a good deal from what I've seen around.

>>1239502
Yeah that's an incredibly good price

Somebody make new

>>1240020
>>1240020
>>1240020
new