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>>12238561LunaMarine
this is consistently the worst thread on this board
A lot of girls. Also no social distancing?
>>12238656But how do you quantify it to come to that conclusion?
>>12238656atleast it has a good median.
>niji big event is happening>thread is dead as fuckYou know the reason and so do I
so how did towa gift throwing do relative? Thought i heard someone say last thread that she had more 'flower boxes' than expected.
>>12238493>PekoMiko>CalliGura>SuseiMoriBlue x Pink duo strong
>>12238667there's unironically more girls than men, i'm blown away.
>>12238709If it would have beaten the free part of Suisei's concert this thread would have been full of bait and tribalism.
>>12238667>>12238771>Manjisanji is not a meme
>>12238771Look at the lineup and look up how popular the girl livers are lolI reckon Ryushen has more fangirls than fanboys too
can someone remind me the of watame concert's free part peak viewers?
>>12238771How the fuck can you distinguish between them from that pick?
>>12238656Truth hurts, huh
>>1223882428khttps://holo.poi.cat/stream/P_ptI5iH7Vg
>>12238829Hair?
>>12238830Aren't you ashamed of this post?
>>12238829their clothes and hairstyles, there's literally only one guy in the front row with the black mask.
>>12238857So this >>12238771 is about only several front rows?
>>12238771Sasuga fujosanji
>>12238561Pekora or Marine
https://twitter.com/sakuramiko35/status/1454376815624015875
>>12238763that's why ID is so trash, no blue no pink
>>12238921J-Jav!?
following the rule of Blue, what do you think will be Lamy's breakout moment?
>>12238667where are you guys watching?
>>12238934>no blueReine...
>>12238948her sold out sake and SC?
>>12238958Wrong thread to ask for restream retard.
>>12238958Go to catalog and look at totally-not-niji-intern-shilling Nijirock thread.
>>12238893Blue x Pink Superiority...
>>12238946we just cant stop winning holochads
My dad works in Hololive and he told me that JP gen 6 will all be blue haired girls who loves numbers.
Marine SCs 2.5 hrs before her stream starts
>>12239057No, it needs pink haired girls to truly maximize numbers.
>>12238709>Turns out 90% of this thread are just nijinigger's shitposing
>>12238980How is it a shill when there's a restream for a paid event?
>>12239057>unbraidedThey surely didn’t learn all secrets
>>12238778Okay, to it's credit, given the SIZE of the venue the numbers viewing the event online will be lower to balance it out no? (Playing a bit of devil's advocate to balance out the fact that there's not enough actual nijifans around)
>>12239088
>>12239088Sasuga horny (fake) pirate, guess this is to make up for a missing month.
>>12239104They can't even shill correctly.
Is Kiara not tracked on live-ranking?
>>12239110Yes, assuming they filled the 10k venue, there will be less people watching online and tweeting, hence the low number of tweets.
>>12239098my uncle works in Hololive ID, he told me that ID3 will all be pink haired girl that has music autism & speak like baby.
>>12238961Reine is more of a white than blue
>>12239104The one who made the thread and the one who restream are different people?
>>12239149Yep. Gotta be a manual add. live-ranking had a hateboner for EN
>>12239088No one will stream over her besides FBK and maybe Aqua.
>>12239209>noo you're not allowed to make threads about huge eventsFaggot I will post about Nijisanji all day FOR FREE my payment is seeing anons have FUN enjoying my favorite vtubers.
>>12238934Moona and Ollie are close enough in the color spectrum i guess.
>>12238921Miko cosplay looks blind.
>>12238667So is it hololive being paranoid or nijisanji being scummy? why does this concert have no social distanding measures?
>>12239278Among other things each prefecture have their own safety rules and the passage of time alleviate some of them
>>12239278>>12238667ILLEGAL VIEWS GATHERING
>>12239298>>12239278PHYSICAL BOX PUSHING
>>12239278depends, if a new breakout happens in tokyo then its nijisanji being scummy, if opening proceeds as scheduled then its Cover being paranoid.
>>12238934I'm more of a purple enjoyer myself
>>12239297which perfecture is this venue on? cuz hololive's is in tokyo.
>>1223914928k is still a hard number to beat. That is often enough to take a day. The question is if Marine's return can beat that. I'm not sure.
>>12239239Luminaria is sponsored so FBK should be ending on the hour.I don't think Aqua will squeeze two hours of Bandori. Is she doing more gacha? Title doesn't say so.
>>12239320I wouldn’t know.
>>12239278I guess Hololive just want to be seen as good boy on government's eyes. I hope Fes3 won't have social distancing and on larger venue.
>>12239320Yokohama https://www.yokohamajapan.com/things-to-do/detail.php?bbid=835
>>12239331> The question is if Marine's return can beat that. I'm not sure.Then you are a newfag, Marine will 100% beat that.
>>12239331100% sure Marine will beat that. I will bet my left testicle on it.
>>12239149I can't even get EN to show up on mine. I swear I knew how this site worked in the past.
>>12239342>I guess Hololive just want to be seen as good boy on government's eyeshaven't Cover been donating money and ventilator machines to help the COVID effort? I think they definitely want the government PR points.
>>12239359weird, clearly the government wouldn't agree with 11k audience before november.https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2021/10/29/national/japan-lift-10000-person-cap-large-events-nov-1-virus-cases-fall/
>>12239331>I'm not sureAre you retarded or ? It's marine not random niji member 42 and to show how even more retarded you are in 5 out of her last 10 streams marine peaked higher than what the niji rock concert peaked at.
>>12238656>me when my chuubas are failing
>>12238467Is this the new TWEWY?
>>12239278Wouldn't the decision be up to bushiroad and not cover?
>>12239331Marine can get 28K with a normal stream.
Anyone has Pekora and kuzuha's median this month so far?
>>12239408Well that venue is 10k.>Meanwhile, venues with a capacity of 10,000 or less will not be affected by the latest decision. Such facilities will be limited to 5,000 spectators or 50% of venue capacity, whichever is greater, meaning a facility with a capacity of 8,000 people can have a maximum of 5,000 spectators, and only 4,000 for events where spectators tend to shout.I think that's not 50% capacity kek.
>>12239382>holowhores are right wingFucking yikes, glad i started watching vshojo
>>12239331Marine's fucking median is 32k you newfag.
>>12239331not sure if baiting or being genuine
>>12239332Literally illegal view funneling.
>>12239469How big is their sponsors that they can get away with this. Fucking optional rules implementation.I know how big they are, but man.
>>12239471
TODAY IS THE DAY, ANONS! With Pekora playing some inferior choice and all EN girls under 22k there is no other stream to take the cake. THIS IS IT BOYS, you can put it down the winner for the day30) Nijisanji Channel, 28k+ (Nijirock)>THIS DOES NOT SLIP!
>>12239331Nice bait. Got a lot of anons to reply to (You)
>>12239367>>12239374>>12239447You're just setting yourselves up for grudge posting. It's a fucking art stream.
>>12239469How can they get away with this???!!!!
>>12239547Weak anon, too weak. The first one was good but now you are trying to capture lightning in a bottle again.
>>12239521JP government has nothing to stand on to enforce those rules considering they let the Olympics continue.
>>12239547Anon I like you but only do days that are not black and white like today
>>12239447Marine used to averge 20kI don't know how she grows to a averge 30k monsterHer ccv is even stronger than Pekora
>>12239547This is just mindless ritual posting at this point.
>>12239556>fucking art streamthat art stream gonna btfo niji mega concert kek
>>12239556It's illustrated zatsudan. Those have got very good views previously.
>>12239572I guess another Hal custom can theoretically take it. Is there anyone keeping track of him?>>12239590She streams less than Peko usually.
Over/under Marine's return. I got 50k if no one is streaming over her.
>>12239547This would only be funny today if Pekora managed to squeeze 6k more views in her disconnected stream before Marine's stream starts.
>>12238709Why is this thread so quiet now?
>>12239618Well because we know who will win today.
>>12239556>it's just an art stream.Why do people who don't watch Holo post here like they do watch Holo?
>>12239556It's a zatsudan in which she is going to draw what she did as well. It's one of the best things Marine does. I don't know why you are underestimating marine of all people.
>>12239636bro some of them doesn't even watch vtubers
>>12239590Less streams overall and does a lot of collabs.
>>12239636>Why do people who don't watch vtuber streams post here.FTFY
>>12238778What happened during the free part of Suisei's concert?
>>12239650If she loses I can rub it in your faces. If she wins I can just say I was trying to rile you guys up.
>>12239650Sounds like a Mito stream
>>12239670Nothing happened anon it was just that niji rock didn't beat the peak which Suisei got during the free part of her sololive. Hell it didn't even beat Watame's peak.
>>12239674Didn't Marine tried to join Nijisanji before holo. So honorary Niji?
>>12239674>If she loses I can rub it in your faces.sure, that's fair>If she wins I can just say I was trying to rile you guys up.now that's cope
Most of the livers in NijiRock are trash numbers wise. Not really a big deal since most people paid money to go or watch the real thing. Anything short of 100k for Marine is a failure.
>>12238709Nobody online?
>12239674k>12239696e>12239710k
>>12239711Aqua just started. Pekora was doing her sponsored stuff. Ollie was streaming earlier but who watched sc reading.
>>12239710>Anything short of 100k for Marine is a failure.Same anon here, I made a typo. I mean anything short of 10k. Sorry for looking like I was falseflagging
>12239710dammit, anon beat me into moving the goalpost bait.
>>12239738You can still do it. He took it back.
>>12239636How new? It's almost a custom here to downplay Holo streams.
>>12239710Poor bait. People are trying not to give it (You)s because it's so obvious
>>12239755I'll just call Marine later an honorary Niji.
>>12239759Why are they downplaying Holo numbers? Everybody knows they consistently get big numbers.
>>12239735Since you apologized for falseflagging, you are now forgiven
>>12239776Why is she called honorary niji? i though it was shigure ui
>>12239843Everyone is honorary Niji, anonThat's how worthless the word "honorary" is in this thread
>Marine is a honorary Nijiunsubbed.
>>12239843Answer your own stupid question
>>12239417Yes
>>12239789It's falseflagging holofags so they can laugh and grudgepost at Nijisanji and Nijiposters despite either making no such claims. No Nijifag expected more than 30k for the free concert and no one expected Marine to lose. I see lots of holofags coping that the concert is beating the shit out of hololive concerts in attendance, probably in digital tickets too.
>>12239843Probably some story about Marine getting rejected at Niji then applying to Holo.
>12239906Now THIS is a good bait
>>12239789To make their numbers seem more impressive, and to shit on the competition.
>>12239923meant for >>12239906Sorry i'm new to 4chan
>>12239923Kek it's the reasonable first 2/3 that lures you into reading the delusional last 1/3.
>>12239952kek what's the purpose of sabotaging my reply
>>12239469>>12239521>>12239558>How new?Cover can't get away with this because jp nijiniggers would blow it up, yes even though Niji does it they don't care.
I refuse to believe people are this socially starved that they have to resort to getting people to flame them to receive a little bit of attention.
actual retard
>>12240031Board is full of spics and seanigs, both groups just HAVE to get those (you)s, especially around this time of day.
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Back to numbershttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Jz0hUbu1mwPredictions on peak premiere CCV and views after 24 hours?7-8k and 350k
>>12240129350k is too high, 150k after 24 hours.
>>12240129350k would be possible on Mori's channel, but not Moona's. I'm guessing 200k.
>>12240129>premiere CCV>7-8klol noMarine's return is at the same timeOnly JPs and ENs watch ID and they will flock to Marine.
>5k people waitingJesus this might peak 70k
>>12238948It should have been her and Aloe but Aloe is rip
>>12239464>Pekora : 27824 (32)>kuzuha : 26589 (29)
>31) Mel's 3D concert vs. Kuzuha & Gen 1 concertWe all know the first wave concert will get #1 and Kuzuha will get 2nd place. Mel has no shot, the guests aren't gonna pull in much. I feel like holidays are worth a lot more than regular days. Maybe winning a holiday counts as 10 wins.
>>12240349You forgot to falseflag and say that you only expect 20k ccv so that you can post "I KNEEL" afterwards
>>122403491.5million yen already according to hololyzer and 7.4k likes already.
>>12238948>number 9 in most super chatted worldwide a year and little over 2 months yeah, she's more than fine.
>>12240399>1.5million yenThis is gonna be filthy.
>>12240387>kuzuhaAugust: 35k > September: 29k > October:26k
Getting my knees ready(TESTING)>I K-Kn(TESTING)>I K-Kne(TESTING)>I K-Kneel
Anyone has miComet's VARK tweet number?
>>12240399Jesus, a month worth of Ichimen load.
>>12240387>kuzuha : 26589 (29)That's actually quite high considering how many sub-20k valorant streams he's had recently.
>>12240129peak premiere CCV will be low because Marine’s starting at the same time but there might be an influx of views once she’s done
>>12240457>29kHe was 26k last month
* Niji numbers and next hour schedule *Very average
>>12240396The concert is the free portion of the live version dumbass. It's going to be Kuzuha > Mel > Gen 1. If this doesn't come true I will post my breasts. Feel free to grudgepost.
>>12240517The entirety of NijiKR is doing a Minecraft Squid Game mod collab.The numbers won't be pretty.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uC43P-ygMocSomeone is farming SC kek
>>12240533no one wants to see your gyno anon.
>>12240535>The numbers won't be prettykek, I explicitly discarded any streams (from the Mado numbers I scrape) under 10 views as potentially bugged. I think I’ll have to reconsider after this
>>1224051769 nice
>>12240545retirement plan
>>12240457He's back to his normal numbers even with multiple tourney buffs
>>12240491Well, median is median, just means he's also got a lot of streams above that to balance it out.
Marine return backed up pretty much everybody else into the 10PM JST slot. It won’t be pretty for the midlevel.
One interesting number update. Right now there are people in Marine's waiting room than the highest currently live niji stream.
>>12240625Huh, Iofi not overlapping. it is weird somehow.
>>12240628I think you dropped a word there, anon
>>12240628More*
>>12240646There are no people in the niji streams anon.
>>12240642kek
>>12240646Yeah just saw it.
>>12240625Anyone else think it is kinda scummy that everyone stops streaming when Marine is streaming? They should just do the normal streams.
>>12240700They're showing their respect to Marine
>>12240642so it's risu turn to overlap at Mel tomorrow
>>12240700That’s not how this bait is formed in this thread. Let me fix it for max (you)s>Any other NijiEN fan also think it is kinda scummy that everyone stops streaming when Marine is streaming? They should just do the normal streams.
>>12240700Izuru.... is debuting... in 3D....
Izuru is going to take the gold today..https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruE9HQ6NgIA
>>12240757Already past Tenma, so not the runt. Yes, we jest and jeer the they are midgets, but 2views around the world are SEETHING that these faggots get to have an event that gets 7k+ viewers, more than they'll ever hope to see.
>>12240757>>12240796I’ll be happy if he crosses 10k. 7k+ right now
>>12240796Star's 3D must be Cover's experimental 3D to be applied for Hololive's 3D later.
>>12240821There's only Fubuki streaming now for Holos so there might be some on the edge Holofans who will check it out.
>>12240817what are the numbers for their 3d debuts? Has anyone broken 20k?
>>12240740I'm not baiting, I just think management forces them to inflate numbers.>>12240724Marine isn't that respected as far as I know.
>>12240757>>12240796>Less than 10kPoor Izuru. He deserves more than this.The Holostars hype is completely dead.
Between Nijisanji male and Holostars, which is more known worldwide?
>>12240796Holostar 3D is better than the girls....
All these stale bait. Can't you guys make something better?
>>12240396No anon, you already used up all of your "Acting stupid bait" points.
>>12240898Stop being mean to Holostars...
>>12240877>I'm not baitingUh huh>I just think management forces them to inflate numbers.retard>Marine isn't that respected as far as I know.dangerously retarded
>>12240929By saying that, you mean Nijisanji males has more worldwide fans.....How can you be any more wrong?
>>12240877Anon please take your meds...
>>12240879Was there ever any hype?
>>12240545She said she'd disable SC like last time she did a double. But she might still catch some of the pent up troll Aka Supas at the next stream.
Man, once NijiEN males debut, Holostars are fuckeddddd
Yagoo please update the girl's 3D with homo's 3D tech...
NijisanjiKR… :-(
holostars are the real slow and steady people. they didn't want to rely on the girls to give them the push and decided to change fate by trying to incline all by themselves.
>>12240971There wasn't, Holostars is a dead project that will never reach its height because bad management. Sooner or later, NijiEN males will swoop in and take ever female vtuber fans. Holostars do not deserve to exist anyway. Fuck them.
>>12240921New material is needed.Wait for the Vshojo debuts later this year.I don't think Sony's going to make for good bait on the other hand.
Does this has legs to beat 10k?
>>122410308k 20 minutes in. Yeah it does.
>>12241026Sony would give some material at least. Not against Holo and Niji but maybe some of the smaller agencies will have some graduations.>>12241030I think this is supposed to be a shorter one so nah.
>>12240898Both are unknown worldwide
>>12240992Wth, those are decent numbers for them, especially since they're all splitting.Then again, yes, they all get way higher numbers when playing International ARK.
>>12241026Vshojo is going to mog all these has-beens. There's a reason why they are invited to one of the most prestigious vtuber events of the year.
>>12241058Looking at the free part of NijiRock, I've seen a fuck ton of EOP comments.
>>12241052It will be so funny when Connor's vtuber debut makes the charts.
>>12240946>as far as I knowKey words here.I don't pay attention to HoloJP/ID/Council, only HoloEN.
>>12240992Gaon has the most CCV because that's the "main" POV, but Hada is clearly the top dog in NijiKR now (excluding Bora ofc who isn't even in this event lol)Those NijiEN collabs paying off.
nijisanji KR captilising on the squidgame meme is genius, highest numbers on average across the board kek
>>12241108Educate yourself before posting stupid shit then, EOP
>>12240855Nope. Highest was Roberu, who peaked at 17k.
>>12241113I'm not sure if its better to not have Bora there because everyone would just watch her, or to have her there to bring much more attention to it.
>>12240879Isn't like Izuru one of the Stars known for disliking EOPs?
>>12241094>Tons of EOP commentsThey make english comments on the top, retardIt's like only 5% of it
>>12240898Holostars. Every Holofag knows Holostars is the male branch of HoloPro. They're a group, a unit with its own name. Even if people don't watch them, they know of them.
>>12241163https://streamable.com/bylkq8
how big
>>12241118kek, not really. Not across the board at least. Here is the median for most id and kr>171) 314 :: nijisanji :: Mika Melatika :: id :: 57>172) 288 :: nijisanji :: Roha Lee :: kr :: 18>173) 281 :: nijisanji :: Ban Hada :: kr :: 47>174) 275 :: nijisanji :: Siska Leontyne :: id :: 72>175) 271 :: nijisanji :: Shibuya Hajime :: jp :: 80>176) 266 :: nijisanji :: Taka Radjiman :: id :: 53>177) 257 :: nijisanji :: Nagi So :: kr :: 33>178) 251 :: nijisanji :: Miyu Ottavia :: id :: 28>179) 243 :: nijisanji :: Naruse Naru :: jp :: 55>180) 233 :: nijisanji :: Ray Akira :: kr :: 30>181) 212 :: nijisanji :: Xia Ekavira :: id :: 60>182) 212 :: nijisanji :: ZEA Cornelia :: id :: 38>183) 207 :: nijisanji :: Amicia Michella :: id :: 55>184) 202 :: nijisanji :: Nari Yang :: kr :: 79>185) 186 :: nijisanji :: 나세라 / Na Sera :: kr :: 36>186) 175 :: nijisanji :: Nara Haramaung :: id :: 50>187) 174 :: nijisanji :: 하윤 / Ha Yun :: kr :: 38>188) 161 :: nijisanji :: Azura Cecillia :: id :: 61>189) 160 :: nijisanji :: Jiyu Oh :: kr :: 45>190) 160 :: nijisanji :: Hyona Elatiora :: id :: 51>191) 157 :: nijisanji :: Suha Min :: kr :: 53>192) 154 :: nijisanji :: Rai Galilei :: id :: 20>193) 146 :: nijisanji :: Seffyna :: kr :: 97>194) 142 :: nijisanji :: Ara Chae :: kr :: 22>195) 129 :: nijisanji :: Chiho Han :: kr :: 48>196) 123 :: nijisanji :: 고야미 / Ko Yami :: kr :: 36>197) 119 :: nijisanji :: 이온 / Lee On :: kr :: 37>198) 107 :: nijisanji :: Riksa Dhirendra :: id :: 62>199) 106 :: nijisanji :: Siu Lee :: kr :: 43>200) 103 :: nijisanji :: Reza Avanluna :: id :: 77>201) 98 :: nijisanji :: Layla Alstroemeria :: id :: 73>202) 93 :: nijisanji :: Hari Ryu :: kr :: 44>203) 91 :: nijisanji :: Etna Crimson :: id :: 25>204) 76 :: nijisanji :: Derem Kado :: id :: 57>205) 66 :: nijisanji :: Nagisa Arcinia :: id :: 43>206) 64 :: nijisanji :: Song Mia :: kr :: 28>207) 64 :: nijisanji :: Gaon :: kr :: 27>208) 57 :: nijisanji :: Kiru Shin :: kr :: 25>209) 34 :: nijisanji :: Kendou :: vr :: 12I would say most are underperforming
>>12240898Cafeteria-in-my-soul and winning son Roberu might be relatively known among Hololive fans even if they probably never seen a stream of him.
>>12241118Combined numbers still a midget compare to no.1 kr vtuber on twitch right now.
>>12239547>he doesn't know
>>12240971There was at the start, but they quickly ruined everything by revealing the 3D concert. That made it obvious that every Star was getting a 3D. The concert should've been revealed in November after Astel's 3D.
9.3k on marine's waiting room 30mins before start
Jesus, people are delusional thinking Holostars are more well-known than Nijimales for EOP. News flash, the average vtuber fans know Nijisanji as the second best vtuber company now.
>>12241224? what are you on about?They announced that there would be a Stars 3D concert by the end of the year since March.
>>12241264wasn't that the promise at the beginning of the year that every star will get 3D?
>>12241260kuzuha and kanae being the main fucking culprits,as well as akina
9,427 waiting
>>12241260>the average vtuber fansI agree with you for the most part but any vtuber fan that onboarded after HoloEN (and in the western market) may not even know what Nijisanji is. More than that: there are Gura-only vtuber fans that may not even know what Hololive is.
>>12241264That's what I said. They revealed the fact that everyone would be getting a 3D way too early.Even the order was clear from Shien onwards.
>>12241260>Is kuzuha more well known than "Winning Son" for EOPs?I don't know...anon...Idk...
>>12241260Holostars used to be 40-60% EoP, i think just Tenma and Myabi had less than that, but interest passed in time, as they do in the fast media consumption west, and some of the stars stopped pandering to kaigais.50% out of 1k ccv is still less than 15% from Kanae's 10k ccv of course.Overall i agree, more EoP KNOW about Nijisanji than stars but Stars had/have a good percentage dedicated EoP fanbase.
>>12241280Yes, there are also a lot of EOP fans for Fuwa and even fucking Maimoto as well. 4chan anons need to realize that there is a whole lot more EOPs for Nijimales than Stars.
umm, I thought you guys said Cover has bad tracking technology. this seems pretty good to me
>>12241348they improved since the roberu fuck up
>>12241030Huh, he reached 9.1k. I didn't expect that.
>>12241348Stop talking about 3D tech in a numbers thread
>10K waitingI fucking kneel
>>12241348Yeah, not much to do with numbers, but that 3D sparkler was really cool.
>>12241339Maybe the best way to measure it is through clip views? What's the highest Holostar clips compared to the highest Nijisanji male clip?
>>12241348Its been improving. Stars 3d is absolutely their testing ground for better 3d for Holopro, and it shows. It's about time they upgraded their shit.
>>12241340Nijimales are slowing gathering their own legion of EOPs, Twitter, FB and even Reddit are filled with them
>>12241348The 3d is too good now. And jezas that firework blew me away
>>12241386That's why I'm all for NijiEN actually debuting males. They have been building a rather solid foundation to introduce corporate male vtubers to a wider audience. This might prove a success.
>>12241260But what counts as knowing "NijiMales"?
>inb4 the seething anon stuck in 2019 pitches in that it’s not actually good Timeloops man, timeloops
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Jz0hUbu1mw 2k waiting
>>12241430Uh, big male members of Nijisanji of course.
>>12241372>>12241375it's because some people here won't stop sucking niji's 3D and how it's so much better than cover's when they're around the same level. I want to use this comparison to see whether this improvement will lead to more people watching the next 3D.
>>12241433huh, 2k waiting. Not expected. Are people using it as some waiting room and will just switch to Marine immediately after?
>>12241431seething 2019 anon here, eat my ass dipshit, it's about fucking time I've seen improvement, that firework put a smile on my face.you better apply this tech to the girls as well or im gonna seethe and mald
Holy shit that 3D testing for holo anon still not giving up on posting
>>12241456Leave them be anon, they're fucking delusional thinking Holostars are worthy of that.
When will the next CrunchyHime stream be? I don’t want to miss the numbers
>>12241348Yeah it's good
>>12241386>even redditfucking where?
>>12241450Casuals and EOPs are probably prioritizing this before switching over to Marine after since it’s just a premiere
>>12241499The Niji reddit has started getting more and more people in there.Sadly for them, they are getting tribalfags that are very willing to do the whole Holo vs Niji thing on Reddit.
>>12241521good, tribal fags going to reddit is good for humanity.
Marine 50k ccv possible?
>>12241444So, that's Maimoto, Gilzaren, Chaika and Belmond. Yashiro looks kinda beefy as well.Dunno if they're more well known than Holostars, desu.
>>12241521There's still only 40k subs and most of the posts on their front page have less than 20 comments.It's not at the stage worth taking seriously yet.
>>12241570Possible? Yes.Probable? Yes.Likely? Yes.Will happen? Yes.
>>12241448I know, but it's all bait.Anyone with eyes could tell, Cover took the lead in 3D since Suisei's in April (or Flare's in June) 2020 and it took Niji till Hoshikawa's to catch up. Since though, they've been insufferable about the "tech gap", when the models are still more detailed for Cover, but Niji does have way better sensors and usually more interesting concepts.It's a thing to bait with though.
>>12241570No. I still say she will win the day but not by much. She only has 13k right now. Not HoF numbers if you ask me.
>>12241424Depends on what a success is. Can they be profitable? Probably. Will we see another Same-chan? Probably not.
next VARK
>>12241521It's still super small fry.I always feel bad seeing Akane posts, she could get triple votes and way more exposure from the r/virtualyoutubers instead.
>>12241678Well that'll be the less popular VARK by far
>>12241678ssseeeeeeeeeeeexxxxxxxx
>>12241521anon, you do know there are sites that track subreddit stats?https://subredditstats.com/r/Nijisanji
>>12241579I was honestly surprised that their reddit didn't pick up in activity that much. I thought that with NijiEN debuting, not to mention someone like Selen picking up an audience, they'd at least supplant r/virtualyoutubers in daily active users. The fact that it didn't and is not even in a tracjectory to do so is weird. I'm not sure why but the brand itself seems to be hard to sell to western and overseas fans for some reason. I wonder if the name (nijisanji) is just too japanese compared to Hololive which you couldn't differentiate from a normal brand?
>>12241709is this thread gonna start numberfagging reddit now KEK
>>12241678Huh, nice to see Mel doing more stuff. I hope she does actually stick to it.Kuroneko's model looked good though.
I still think it isn't likely that Marine will get more than 30k people. You do realize that 40k CCV is a lot of viewers? I think it is silly to think she can get 45k. I know some people think less than 50k is a disappointment but 55k is really good. Falling short of 60k is nothing to be ashamed about, setting you sights on 65k was just too high.
>>122414333K now
>>12241709>127 comments a dayThat's even less than some threads in here
>>12241749Wonder if it is gonna hit 6k during the song itself.
>>12241733We don't?>>12241755/vt/ has 10 times the number of posts that than the hololive subreddit(55k vs 5k). Like it or not we run this shit.
>>12241260More known in SEA and a few outside
>>12241733It's numbers. Why not lol.Not that there is much to numberfag. Hololive reddit has more activity than virtualyoutubers, which has more than Niji.I think Hololewd has more than Niji?
>>1224174780k
>>12241776Does that number count comments?Post here is not the same as posts there.
>>12241776Well the fastest running threads are basically used as a chat surrogate anyways.You won't see people spam Gosling images on r/hololive during an Ame karaoke.
>>12241747Eheheheheh. >>12241763Maybe, but the fact that it's at the same time as Marine's return is just very, very unfortunate. Had it been 30 minutes earlier, they could've caught a bunch of people waiting for marine to check it out.
>>12241832holy shit, the waiting room along might be enough to beat the thing KEK
>>12241781This is way better than I thought, Kuzuha really is a pillar Nijisanji can count on, he needs a better translator and everything will be set.
>>12241792Yes, hololewd gets more comments per day than nijisanji
>>122418322.1 mil yen SC with 2 minutes left till the stream starts.
>>12241832I don't know anon, I'm not feeling it.What if the entirety of Japan sunk to the bottom of the ocean all of a sudden? Wouldn't that affect her numbers?
>>12241678Should have swapped Aki for Choco instead, could have gotten a bit of buff from shippers.
>>12241810I just checked, r/hololive gets only 2.5k comments a day
25k waiting
>>12241858according to nijifags, hololive is only watched by dirty foreigners so that numbers won't get affected at all
>>12241781>UAEOil princesses...
The waiting room already won the day.
>>12241872>/vt/ 50k posts a dayREDDIT MOGGED
>>12241193I wonder if their median is affected by the ongoing SKT match of league.
>>12241709I've always been curious but never bothered to search. Damn r/holo has nearly double the post votes than lsf, despite having less than half subeven on reddit, holofags are engaging
>30KAlready win unless miko MC stream bring more nimbers
>>12241920AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHA
>>12241920
Welp, Mori just spoke Korean in the song.Sorry NijiKR
>>12241986rip korean branch
>Marine return stream at 36k and still at the intro screen
>>12241986kek
already 40k at intro
Over 40k watching and she's just now appeared.
AHHHHHHHHHHH STOP THE COUNT
>>12241726The interaction isn't there.Other than Akane, none of the livers post consistently.Sometimes she has 1/2 of all comments that dayhttps://www.reddit.com/r/Nijisanji/comments/qhq6j5/what_japanese_song_would_you_like_me_to_sing/I tried it back in the day, but it's not much you can work with. Most posts are picture reposts and schedules nothing you can comment much on. A lot of the oldheads where the Niji gatekeepers who caused the fandom to dry up in the west and hated memes.So - artists don't know about it to post pictures there. - Livers don't have much to say to cause interaction - Few memes, though, more after EN started - no fan participation contests like on Hololive redditHell, even the hololive subreddit plummeted after Coco and the rest stopped showing up to engage.https://subredditstats.com/r/hololive
>>12240196>>12240495They called me a madman (1).
>>12241986the funniest part is that you're probably right
46k.
Marine return +>Flarealready 50k
>>12242042Akane has the second most posts on the subreddit over it's lifetime. That's insane.
>>12242049I kneel. Guess more people decided to check this out before bouncing over to Marine.
>>12239556How are you feeling, bro?
>>12241986Hands down to ID, that was awesome quality
>>12242114Nothing. I didn't know she was such a draw when no one else is streaming.
>>12241986Rip KR market, HoloEN mogging everyone without even having an official branch.
>50k
+ Towa+ KanataLater Shion, maybe Fubuki, Noel or PekoraThis is getting out of hand
>>12241726Niji subreddit tried to limit meme content early on, which killed any growth.Also there was no Coco redirecting fans to the subreddit with a meme review.
It's been a long time since I've seen Youtube "span viewer" bot with 2.5k / min throughput.I'll put the new over/under on 80k>REVISED PREDICTIONS?I say it beats 80k but stop short of 100k
>>12242185Queen of the CCV : Houshou Marine
Battle of monthly ccv : Ayame vs MarineIf marine does not stream tomorrow.
>54,931 watching nowholy fucking shit
CCV is still increasing!
>>12242171They clearly don't need it even, just higher more KR streamers for Holo EN and have them talk once a week in KR for the clippers.
>>12242185Looking like it'll hit 70k at this rate. Still inclining steadily.
>>12242208I'll go under and say 70k.
>>12242208Depending on who else will call it will reach easy 75k
>>12242208It will be lucky to hit 70k.
>>12242049What a nice surprise
Will Marine pay the Ayame fees?
>>12242205Nijisanji>killed clippers>killed memeswhat's next, they are going to hire memes?
>>12242170we get it you are newhave some shame man
>>12242257Are you serious about this anon? She's already 58k
>>12241747I can't believe this is actually happening...
im definitely gonna jerk off to marine's numbers at the end of her stream
>>12242243>>12242246Probably not reasonable but, Marine also hasn't streamed before in October so, could she bead Ayame's month end CCV?>2) Ayame (Hololive) - 86k - 3D ConcertTop of the month for CCV per stream will be 2 1 time streamers.
>>12242283Don't give them ideas anon. Their manager is browsing this thread.
>>12242224Lol, she has a stream scheduled already.Ayame takes this.
chill the fuck out newfags, it's Marine, nijisanji killer when Aqua retired
>>12242293>at the end of her streamAnon, plz, if you don't have your dong in your hand right now doing it to the chart growth you may be gay
N I J I C O P EIJICOPE
>>12242103>>12242185>>12242220>>12242224>>12242230>>12242231>>12242243>>12242246It's a collabDoesn't count
>>12242291I'm starting to think I should have used bigger numbers for my shitpost. I don't want to get BTFO in 20 minutes.
>>12239547remember yesterday when faggets were saying this could compete with marine?
>60k 12 minutes inI don't think it will stop at 70k lads
And to think Nijisanji almost had Marine at one point
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>>12242314don't be too hard on yourself. this wouldn't have happened if she didn't do call in. by herself she would have gotten 40k easily but by having guests she elevated numberfagging to heights
Lol, Holofagas trying to spin something as pathertic as a Reddit when their Holostars are not performing up to standard. When Nijimales debut, the reddit is going to be brimming with life that the pathetic Holo sub is going to kneel for the rest of its life.
>>12242299marine has 3 streams already coming this month - return, amongus, some drawing. So median will ignore this one
>>12242320I thought it could desu since Kagami is there, though I don't follow Niji at all.>>12242334I'm down to be wrong for Senchou.
>>12242334Remember when Marine was pulling 40k for regular old zatsudans at the start of the year?
>>12242293She's got good numbers for that
>>12242353>Female in nijiWon't successJust look Luna's past and look her now
>>12242366Holy cope
>>12242353Nijisanji recruitment team fucking sucks. They need to spam waves after waves of livers to even have a chance.
>>12242353I thought that was Pekora?
>>12242367Why didn't you add "as a NijiEN fan" to make your falseflag more obvious?
>>12242422Lol. Looks like they are letting the audience do the recruitment for them.
64k now. 70k is only a stones throw away. Not bad.
>>12242367Niji subreddit don't even discuss the males that much lol.
>>12242365She will ENTER
ok ok lets get some real numberfagging going here. Who do you think will give her the biggest numbers? Pekora call? Aqua? Rushia? Maybe surprise Gura?
The growth stopped. Looks like 70k was impossible, 65k would be lucky too. Kneel.
>>12241627
>>12242490No one is fucking calling, that was just the intro.The stream is her explaining her drawings.
>>12242490Theoretically? Gura of cuorse.Would Gura do it? I am not sure actually. Gura has a video for Ollie of all people, someone too scared to even talk to her straight.
>>12241747KEK
>>12242490Peko and Rushia seems like a good pull.
Marine is not even reaching 70k nowFail Fail Fail Fail Fail Fail Fail Fail Fail Fail Fail Fail Fail Fail Fail Fail Fail Fail Fail Fail Fail Fail
>>12242494Marineschizo on cope levels not before thought possible.
this boomer pirate is just so powerful
>>12242490>>12242515Umisea will show upMark my words
>>12242494kek>bitches don't know about the "spam check stall"
>>12242437Its a 5ch shitpost/rrat for some reason it reached here.I think this is the first rrat, no proof or anything and everyone just believed it. >>/jp/thread/S27361330#p27362037
>>12242515Are you serious about this?
>>1224249470k still very doable, 66k now, but yes it's slowed down...Better said, YT finished analyzing the viewers already in the stream and is finally displaying them.
>>12242579The too scared part? It's mostly a rrat lol.I believe it but I'm not gonna bother pulling up stuff for defending it.
>>12242591she still hasnt shown her drawings of stories about her break
>>12241726I’m not surprised, they were trying to gatekeep the subreddit since before it got acquired. Although I’m not a fan of the shitty memes, it’s a good way of encouraging participation and growing the fanbase of the brand.Almost none of the talents post on there so all that tells you is that they don’t really care too much about the western side.They did a lot of shit to inhibit growth and it worked.
>>12242619Im talking about the numbers part.
>>12241726To be fair r/virtualyoutubers is just filled with indies shilling themselves these days, and with the amount of indies on the market these days it's not surprising it's getting more activity.
66k will probably the peak unless more guests shows up. reddit EOPs are probably being filtered right about now
>Turn off all streams except promotion>Not even 70kWhy?
>>12242574That even contradicts reality. Pekora joined hololive because she wanted to become an idol like her oshi.
>>1224253367k now. Tick tock Marineschizo.
67k now
Matsuli doing another apex gacha stream already? Isn't that a bit soon?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uC43P-ygMoc
>>12242663kek
>>12242579I mean, yes. Gura calling would give her a big incline since they haven't talked one on one on stream before. It would be a boost for novelty and Gura.
>falsefalg upon falseflags upon falseflagsyou retards know at this point you're arguing with people who's on the "same" side as you, right?
>>12242687This is because her card got rejected last time. It is pretty much decided at the end of that first one that a revenge stream will happen.
she is reclining
>>12242701if gura does call in it would likely be with ina
>Zatsudan: Marine >>> Pekora>Singing: Marine >>> Pekora>Gaming: Maring > Pekora>Comedian: Marine = PekoraDo you think Marine is a better streamer than Pekora?
nijiID is really allergic to numbers huh
>>12242687No, it got brought up last thread but apparently her card was stopped due to 'suspicious activity's so she had to stop her last gacha stream. Should be fixed now hence the 'revenge gacha' stream.
>>12242701More than top JP holo in Japan primetime?
>>12242701>>12242739Why would they call in when this isn't a totsumachi?Get with the program.
>>12242660It used to be a Nijisanji board and would constantly shit on Hololive, then it became a Hololive board when HoloEN dropped and the Nijifags got overrun, now it’s just where indies shill themselves.
>>12242740>Do you think Marine is a better streamer than Pekora?No. Pekora is by far the best streamer in Hololive. That said Marine is a better all around entertainer and manages to get similar numbers through sheer charisma even if she doesn't do as much optimization for numbers as Pekora does.
>>12242740>StreamerWho stream consistently anon?
>>12242765Yes. More than Pekora. Not more than the entirety of gen 3 but that is cheating.Not that it matters. It's not a totsu.
She stucks at 67k
>>12242656What is it with nijisanji and hobbling their own growth? I joke alot about nijinigger but it really does feel like nijisanji fans are filled with bitter salty fucks who do everything without their power to limit their popularity, and then seethe endlessly about not being as popular as hololive
Huh, Fubuki is still on and she has 3.6k watching lol. RELEASE THEM FOX
>>12242740Don't forget:>Collabs : Marine > Pekora
>>12242796I don't know anon her last stream on japan primetime doesn't scream big numbers to me.
>>12242833she has been dealing with some bug from her capture software. she could have finished long time ago if she wasnt having that
>>12242842Then go ahead and guess differently anon.
>900KMoona already getting the song boost.
68K8K
>>12242811For whatever reason, Nijisanji attracts a bunch of console tier elitists to their fanbase, I’m not sure why.If you ask Holofag about their fav talents they will tell you who and which clips to watch as an intro.If you ask a Nijifag they will tell you who and why they’re better than Hololive.
>>12242743That's really good for them, not even Hana gets 1k nowadays.While she declined, the branch overall increased, with multiple people, even Taka getting 400 regularly.
69K
>that 3k rise when the picture came
Marine is showing her comic now. 70k imminent.
>Senchou shows bare legs and yuri>jumps almost 2k
>>12242997>69kPerfect numbersStop the count
>Marine shows her draw>70k instantly
There it goes
>>12242533oh no no no
70k get
>>12242533>>12242666kneel
>>12242533MarineschizoBTFO BTFO BTFO BTFO BTFO BTFO BTFO
>>12243024>Jakarta time?
>>12242915>If you ask a Nijifag they will tell you who and why they’re better than Hololive.Ah they are everywhere even when no one asks>LSF post about holo>r/holo post about holo>holo clipsthey'd insert how nijisanji is better. they can't help but wanting attention
Time to move the goalpost Marineschizo
fucking 71k now
KNEEL BROS ASSEMBLE>I K-KNEEL!
Marineschizo in shambles (and also salivating, I swear they have this odd love/hate relationship with Marine and they're probably membered to her for quite a while too)
>>12242740She is more talented individual. But if we are talking about being streamer then Pekora hands down is the best in holo
I still remember when Nijifan compared Marine to Lain 2 months ago lmao
>>12242740>Gaming: Maring > PekoraI disagree
Jeesus, she speaks too fast even for Taishi to translate.>Highest average wpm in Hololive?I know ranting Ollie and Risu are way faster, but on average Marine takes it.Will have to watch the clip of this.
Reclining again.
>>12243115True, Pekora tend to pull the audience particularly gen3 MCHC
>there is no Pekora in her draw
>>12243135>Reclining>Jumps to 72kMarineschizo, time to call it a day you've had too many L's
>>12243166kek>implying a hikki would leave her home for no reason
900k channel vs 55k channel.How long will it take for Moona to overtake Boogey Voxx?
80k never ever lol
>>12243166Pekora is a shut-in. it would be a big surprise if these two did meet somewhere
marine really is the queen of zatsus
>>12243166>expecting Pekora to appear in an irl meetanon, Pekora only left the house 3 times this month and it was for the Gen3 concert prep.Marine's probably saving those stories for after the concert.
I have to say it was an EXCELLENT choice of songs for Moona and she picked up an amazing ensemble.The korean part by Calli is just rubbing it in too, clearly targetted at a specific audience. Sasuga Moona!
>>12243211Based moving goalpost. Might even stick this time
>>12243070I remember watching Pippa a while back and she was talking about Hololive (she’s a fan), and her entire chat went “Nijisanji is better”.
this schizo needs meds for real
>>12243166Pekora minmaxes her social interactions.
>>12243200views are still being processed for that video so, by tonight probably.
>>12243247Man that is just sad.
Why are there so many people shitposting here instead of just watching Marine's stream?
>>12243070And yet at the same time they gatekeep like crazy, even on the subreddit>>12243216They did, 3rd gen went for a meetup not too long ago
>>12243211100milion never ever lol
That person is just funposting.
>>12243200A day, lol. You fucking know this shit is getting looped by KR bros and all sorts right at this moment.
>>12243267I don't understand Japanese and need to wait for the clips
>>12243267>Why are people shitposting instead of watching vtuber streamsFTFY
>>12243267Have you heard Marine speak?
>>12243247sasuga toxic fanbase, fucking disrespectful
>>12243211daaamn u told us now antihow are we gonna comeback from this? uwu
>>12243247Link? I wanna screenshot so I can rub it in their faces in the future.
>>12242740>Zatsudan: Marine >>> Pekora>Singing: Marine > Pekora> Dancing: Pekora >> Marine>Gaming: Pekora > Maring>Comedian: Pekora > Marine There I've corrected the list for you, no need to thank me.
>>12243305it all part of their slow and steady growth plan.
>>12243166neck yourself faggot
Here comes the numbers rabbit and titty knight picture...
>there is no pekor....
Nijisanji isn't doing bad for this hour either.
>HATERS AND LOSERS BTFO
>>12243247Sigh...I swear they the seething 2views have poisoned the indie scene against Hololive. Not to say that EN managment is completely innocent (they're not), but with the amount of garbage spewed you'd swear they personally slapped all of them in person. >>12243267EOP Board anon-chama...
>74Kpekola buff
75k5k
numberbunny brings more numbers.
>>12243348>LizeCome to hololive please. She seems like a perfect fit for holo.
>>12243247Why is their fanbase so toxic? This is exactly why I stick to Hololive.
>>12243267basically this>>12243125I'm watching the images but only catch 20% of what she's saying.They're finally admitting that Pekora's hot irl btw.Didn't they mostly try to avoid this topic?
>>12243348Lize is a staple on the daily top these days.
>>12243348...WHO WOULD WIN ANON, WE NEED YOU ON THIS ONE STAT.
>>12243387She might. Lulu is gone now after all.
>>12243247Link for this?
>>12243348>Lize is not doing bad for this hourftfyalso is ibrahim going to an apex toruney or why the sudden burst of that?
>>12243398I think Noel already talked about Pegor's breast size in passing at one point.
>>12243398Marine describes every holomem as a sex goddess so she's not exactly a reliable narrator lol
>>12243349Pegora so stylish, if she chose that for outfit, kneelers will migrate to her
>Pekora Momo niku>Pekora Shiri nikukek, you guys better do your japanese reps as well, the numbers are good but the talk is even better
75k seems about right, very nice incline
>>12243267watching streams would actually be a detriment to analyzing numbers, which are the purpose of this threads you'll get your judgment clouded not by the hard figures generated by the stream, but by the content itself which is difficult to compare and quantify properly.My number predictions has been accurate >70% of the time and I havent watched a single stream since april this year.
>>12243439looks a bit like suisei's outfit.I think they'd need to redesign her a bit for that outfit to work though...
>>12243424Ib plays a lot of Apex, probably more than Minecraft normally, and his numbers are always in the 4-7k range. Nothing impressive when he gets better numbers just talking or doing random stuff.
>>12243387You know the whole trio would be welcome, but Niji would have to keep the models.
>>12243439Did Marine draw that based on Pekor's irl clothes? I don't nihongo.>>12243464Based but also cringe.
>>12243403>These days.Lize has averaged 10+k for a very long time.
>>12243499yes
>>12243485>>12243439Imagine if her next outfit stream is a literal unbraided Peko.
Maybe it was a mistake of me to include "vs. nijirock free chat" against Marine return. That's another dirty spot on the holy top winners chart.
>>12243493Can’t imagine how expensive and how much of a shitstorm that would be.
>>12243503will be a slaughter
>>12243267Are you implying that posters here actually watch streams?
>>12243513Gallons would be spilt that night.
>>12243499No
>>12243493It doesn't matter if they change model desu. Their personalities will carry them + hololive buff = bigger numbers.
>>12243519free part portion*
>Octoberniji: 5holo: 22others: 3
>>12243354the funny thing is that those 2views will gladly betray themselves if there is at least a small possibility to get inside hololive, see the fauna shizo
>>12243547gen 6 predictions: Lulu, Gibara, and who else
>only 75kWhat a dissapointment.
>>12243563Pekora alone destroy niji in this daily wins.
>>12243200>Be Boogey Voxx>Record a song with the biggest musician vtuber in the world.>A day later, release an original song that completely shits on anything Mori Calliope has ever done in her whole life.What did Boogey Voxx mean by this?
Sana and Baelz could honestly be the next Marine and Pekora if they worked hard, stream consistent and ask for guidance from the two themselves. Unfortunately though..
>>12243577I know anon, I know, but you should stop feeling bad about yourself and enjoy the big numbers that's happening right now!
>>12243577Stop falseflagging you sound like a tard
>>12243598Uhh. No. What Pekora and Marine bring in terms of numbers is hard to replicate.
>>12243592Wrong thread for this bait, we only care about numbers.
>>12243577Based goalpost mover, never give up. >>12243571Not happening. There's no way Lulu would join Hololive, her reasons for leaving make it clear she'll likely never join a corp ever again. Gib would be a just a gigantic shitstorm, and Im pretty sure Hololive would avoid it.
>>12243571Gen 6 expectations is that Cover doubles down and just brings in the retired .Live members
>>12243547Why would they get bigger numbers just because they switched to Holo?
>>12243598Pekora and Marine is just too uniqueRushia too.
>>12243590As she should, as she's bigger than any of them. Every loss to a Niji is a smear on her resume.
>>12243592post numbers or get out
>>12243598You need a good gen to have the same effect Marine and Pekora have. Plus lots of luck.
>>12243598Sana's model is too much of a debuff.Baelz can though if she works smart and hard. It's too bad she can't lean more on the chaotic personality that people were expecting for her.
>>12243592Boogey Voxx bait is pretty rare. You should make a new thread for it. Might get them few listeners trying to analyze the lyrics.
looks like the peak is 75,965, definitely taking the gold today.
what are marine's SC numbers looking like for nowplayboard isn't even tracking the stream
>>12243659Because we already have an example. Luna.
>>12243647Such a waste, I really like Kiso Azuki's 3d model.
>Kuzuha shows up, >brings up everyone's numbersSo this is the halo effect in play huh?Also, Petra should consistently stream in JP time at this point. At least 2 times a week.
>>12241260Only freaks like us that consume vtuber content on a daily basis even know what the fuck a Nijisanji is. Every casual Hololive fan knows about the Holostars even if they don't actively watch them. Holostars are unironically more popular and known worldwide than Nijikeks.
>>12243592Pretty good bait. You should post it somewhere else though like what the other anons said.
I prefer Lulu, Sara, Lize, Rion and Honma
>>12243598Neither of them have anywhere near the innate charisma Marine has. I don't think either of them have the sense of how to make top quality stream content like Pekora does either based on how they've both basically thrown shit at the wall randomly for their schedules since debut.
>>12243727Maybe she improved a lot in streaming. That's why she has better numbers now.
>>12243637>>12243697>>12243698In terms of numbers, it's very hard to replicate them. It basically came down to lots of luck and being on the radar almost everyday during the vtuber boom last year. But Honestly, Baelz and Sana have the qualities similar to marine and pekora. Just being a clone to them for the EN audience could guarantee 10k+ on normal streams after 6 months at the least. Sana being able to draw, banter, talk and game while Baelz being able to also talk and game too but unfortunately, they really like debuffing themselves for gods know what reason.
>>12243659Because holo brings more numbers. I mean look at luna look at her numbers and she is pretty much above average number wise if we compared it to niji. If she stayed in niji she would be sub 1k
>>12243715Hololyzer shows 3.2m Yen, nice welcome back payday.
>>12243200At this moment15k views22k likes
>>12243598Possible with Baelz but doubt with Sana since she really seems to hate numbers and not into a lot of popular stuff. Marine gets into trends too, its not like she's all just zatsudans.
>>12243767yeah and maybe nijisanji commit more crimes
>>12243803The holos should go on vacations often. Except for my oshi of course.
>>12243777Sana basically voluntarily killing her own numbers is bizarre to me. I know she has a day job but so does Ina and it seems becoming what I could consider a top tier streamer has only improved her standing as an illustrator. As a numberfag it annoys me. If I were a Holo reject I would be seething endlessly.
>>12243787You can't just say it's because of holo name>>12243767
>>12243777If im not mistaken alot of fans thinks polka would be pekora 2.0 and yeah it didn't pan out.
What combination of Niji talents debuting as HoloGen6 and getting sucess would cause the most seethe for Nijifans?
>>12243767>Lize helesta debuted on march of 2019>Luna debuted in the year 2020>Lize at most, doubled or tripled her ccv>Luna x10/20 her ccv>Luna has more SCs despite debuting laterHonestly, it's not a meme that vtubers/indies could find much greater success being on Holo due to the access/exposure of the fanbase. If what you do is niche, there would still be people watching you. Petra piano got around ~2k, Luna electone got around ~4-5k
>free ad for mel's 3D live on marine's streamMel can do pretty well tomorrow.
>>12243200Korean are still watching DK vs T1btw...highest single POV : LCK Twitch >52KTotal POV : 2332412( excluding China platform)
>>12243837She will get BIG NUMBERS on her return stream
>>12243871Uh....including ex-Niji or no?
>>12243853Polka also deliberately debuffed herself by not having a consistent schedule and basically just guerilla streaming all the time. The girl had Yagoo on her show and didn't advertise it at all. She has no idea how to market herself
kek, talk about a poor timing to schedule your return>Uruha-chan, think of the numbers!
>>12243777Individual quality is not enough, they need to be a good generation together to get huge numbers.
>>12243887LCK Twitch >520K
>>12243493Just leave Toko behind please. She's always the weakest among the three by far and the reason she can keep up with them is because she's been leeching off both Niji and Holo fanbases.
>>12243787It would pretty much kill Nijifemale side desu.They took a massive hit losing Roa, Gibara, Lulu and all their connections,
>peko marine MC collab numbers
>>12243901Eh for VSPO 4k is pretty good
>>12243880Luna’s dead hours (euro hours) streams gets 4-5k as well now. Was surprised when I found out.
>>12243852Her niji model is also a debuff.
>>12243853Yeah, though it's not totally her fault. Gen 5's momentum was killed by Aloe graduation and Holomyth debuting 1 month later.
>>12243853>alot of fans thinks polka would be pekora 2.0Polka is Pekora minus the work ethics plus the unbraided hair.That killed her numbers
>>12243934This model is sex
>>12243892Include ex-Niji.>>12243882ILLEGAL BOX PUSHING!
>>1224392980k
>>12243951It doesn't fit her voice anon.
>>12243934I like that better than her current one
>Fubuki frame instead of Marine for Red B sport fes>Marine might not be able to make it to sport fes, she realized she had a 2nd jab appointment a few days before the event
>>12243659Hololive knows how to develop talents.
>>12243939Pekora has hikki autism focus buff, Polka has irl fat laziness debuff.
>>12243951Yeah, but it doesn't suit her voice.
>>12243853The thing that makes Pekora so good is her consistency and her natural chaotic behaviour, chaos just happens it's not forced(or doesn't feel like it).Polka has a similar chaos vibe as pekora, but she doesn't have her consistency. Bae seems to be pushing for the consistency, but she seems to lack the other quality.
>>12243659Because Hololive is more popular. Not hard to figure out anon.
>>12243933Thats back to the kind of numbers she was getting pre-December nerf
>>12243934This should have been IRYS' model.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QT4fYk6aR9kAmoung us collab tomorrow
>>12243647Sio… dat ass…
>>12243951In motion is was pretty bad.... but then again, have any of you actually seen the Niji collab yesterday? Holy hell, how is their 2D tech still this bad? Even after all the brushups, other than Maizumi, everyone was static, then jittery like crazy.
>>12243987Exactly. Just look at HoloMyth as an example. Management managed to whip them up from 4 nobodies into 5 top streamers.
>>12244062those haven't been great for numbers since the initial novelty wore off.
>>12244067in house rigging pls understand
>>12243981Nah, she just didn't want to be captain.Pekora, Flare and Miko talked about it too.
>>12244021Baelz exudes the bullyable aura Pekora and Miko have, I think its possible for her once she can get better at playing a smug and mischievous character, she's done some pranks at least in Minecraft.
>>12244021>but she seems to lack the other quality.Speaking of that having her as "Chaos" was surely a miscast. She fits the RatGirl voice alright but one could argue she's the most orderly of all Council.It debuffed her hard at the start, people were expecting "Haachama level" of chaos and instead got pretty much a Flare level of order. It was a disappointment for many, but she won her audience over with her charmGoes to show how hard being a "Haachama" is. You can't teach, you can't fake, you can act, you need to BE that on and off stream
>>12244067Link? I want to compare
About KR numbers.They're spending a lot on the JP branch too.
>>12243981So it'sMiko (Main)Pekora (Red A)Fubuki (Red B)IRyS (Red C)Subaru (White A)Aqua (White B)Has White C decided yet?
>>12243908This aspect is underrated. Gura can collab with Kiara and they pull 20k midday NA. Their collabs on music and streams reinforce the algorithm. Each member contributes their niche portion of the fanbase to the whole. This is why Selen is somewhat hamstrung. She’s not the Gura of her gen simply because even Gura benefits significantly from collabs/events with her genmates
>>12244067>how is their 2D tech still this bad?Wait, that was rigged?I thought it was like those animations from voice chat that "light up" the png of the person that talks, except moving instead of lighting.
>>12243957Uh...maximum seethe would be Gibara, Lulu, Roa, Meiro and Mito (okay yes I know Mito leaving would be the equiv of Fubuki leaving Hololive, basically not happening unless something truly BLACK happened) With that set of 5 going to ahololive, it would be a death knell for Nijisanji, that their competitor could take the toxic pair of Roa and Meiro and get it to work, 2 ex Niji that quit, and their flagship female. Like, such a group going to Hololive would mean Nijisanji engaged in something so BLACK it would make upd8 look like saints.
>>12244099>Speaking of that having her as "Chaos" was surely a miscast.Are you the one sperg who keeps going about this? There is no "casting" their lore has no impact whatsoever on their streaming personalities. None. Period. You're acting like Hololive gives them a role they need to play and it's simply not true.
>>12244062>Marine>Aqua>Suisei>Miko>Fubuki150k max total ccv atleast more than this
>>12244108WON KRW 23 1037000 100,716円
>>12243871not impossible but Imagine Pmaru.
>>12244101https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbvzMrmdkAIBut yeah, this is par for the norm in Niji collabsEven Finana, who has good rigging was afflicted here. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gvUm_qjCx0
>>12244101It's on mayuzumi kai's channel. I watched it for a few second to see what made it get 20k but closed it afterward. The models weren't moving properly as intended, blame it on how many people there are on screen. Maybe compare this to Fuwa's last morning show, I forgot whether they are using live2d or png but there was 10 livers+ present.
>>12244150I am not said sperg, and "cast" in this context was in the general sense.My comment is apt tho, people were expecting chaos, you can walk back and "read the room" back then.I agree that lore is irrelevant after debut day
>>12244157around $900+
>>12244176>>12244189to be fair that's a thing everyone struggles with, there a reason most holos use static avatars during large collabs, the airserver system they use can't handle it otherwise
>Flare: 13k>Okayu: 12k>Watame: 9kSo much for all the doomposting about overlap after Marine's stream.
>13k & 12k on flare/okayu collabPretty good considering marine still hold 40k+ hostage.
>>12244193>My comment is apt tho, people were expecting chaosNo they weren't and if anyone was they're literally retarded since you can watch a single Hololive stream and know that the background lore has very little impact on the streaming personality if anything. When's the last time you heard anything about Botan living in some Tokyo slum?
>>12244189mayuzumi has somalian internet or some shit, that probably didn't help
>>12244257>No they weren'tMaybe *you* weren't.
How much evidence do you think Cover will need before opening up a new foreign branch? Or will they continue the strategy of recruiting a bilingual EN instead?
Junbros…
Good opening numbers for the Minecraft
>>12244223That has nothing to do with the rigging itself then
>>12244307Lmao
>>12244294I think its more about getting competent managers that speak the new branch´s language
>>12244307Graduation stream when??
>>12243519Lol, you don't know how these things go so blowouts are fine.
>>12244092I feel that Kronii is better at playing smug but bullyable character
>>12244284I wasn't and nobody else was. One sperg keeps trying to push the idea that Baelz isn't "chaotic" enough for her character which is fucking stupid since the character develops AFTER they stream and grow their personality. Pekora wasn't always a crazy Minecraft mad scientist looney tunes bunny.Simply pout Baes numbers have nothing to do with matching some imaginary character trait you've made up and everything to do with a lack of consistency and some terrible game choices in her first few weeks. She's grown considerably after she's been allowed to collab with some JPs
>>12244319A lot of streams going on right now.Also, jees, haven't seen a +600 reply numbers post in a loooong ass time.
>more holoEN pandering to koreafuck off, stop leeching. it's disgusting. anycolor laid the foundation for their own buildings, not yours.
>>12244132Yep, AmeSame boosted both Ame and Gura.
>>12244398Marine's return even helped the number thread itself to incline
>>12244404:)
>>12244223I don't think they have used the airserver thing in a year. Airserver error screen used to popup now and then, but I think around the start of this year they implemented a room system in the hololive app. All of the models are now on the streamers side and only moves are sent over the network.
>>12244137Just imagine the seethe. Pure bliss for dramafags.
>>12244404
>>12244404Sad bait. You should post this again when this thread is on page 1
>>12244404If Nenes streams are any indication the Koreans absolutely go wild for the smallest amount of pandering and already like EN quite a bit so this is going to get Mori a lot of KR interest
>>12244294The question is which branch is worth it? They can cover a lot of potential branches with bilingual EN without the hassle of having a specific branch.
>>12244398>haven't seen a +600 reply numbers post in a loooong ass time.Literally two threads ago
>>12244373She lacks the drive to be pranky to others, not to mention she's kinda one of the more skilled and smarter ENs that she'll be able to be successful in her actions most of the time, compared to Baelz who has said it was her first time finishing games during the 1st week.
>>12244137Roa AND Meiro. jesus anon.
>>12244373Yeah, but her voice doesn't really fit the Rat Girl Design. Unless her VA chops are really good.
>$35k in SCs>75k in viewersThis is why HoloJP reigns supreme over HoloEN. HoloEN just doesn't have this kind of weight or skill. Not even Myth sniffs Gen 3.>>12244137In your dreams, fag. That will never come close to happening. Also Cover likes picking mental patients they can control easily.
>>12244137Poaching Niji members would be more trouble than its worth. They'd have to deal with seething Niji antis for months.
>>12243647Which .live member would be good for gen6?
>>12244284if you were, then you are too new to hololive. Go back and look at the lore of all the jp holos, the lore given by the company,, look at how they started, and look at how they are today. Even then EN side does care more about lore than JP side, but more as something the streamer and audience can play with and mix to fit their personality, not something they have to conform to. a representative of chaos that's the most orderly person on the council sounds just fine in anycase for usual holo hijinks
>>12244457I mean niji made a whole branch and they didn’t care. So clearly it isn’t as simple as that
>>12244137It would hamstrung them, yes. But I still doubt it kills them. 2 of Nijisanjis main strengths is that their fanbase is compartmentalized (hence why box-pushing doesn't work as good for them) and that their most popular livers are males. 5 females leaving (even if it includes Mito) wouldn't be enough. The only thing that can kill them is a legal scandal that gets authorities involved. And I'm not talking something like tax evasion even. It'd need to be big enough that association with the brand becomes toxic for any company.
>>12244528It's the EN vs JP schizo again.
>>12244294If its profitable. Even yagoo said it>Our overseas business is not yet profitablehttps://note.com/tanigo/n/n8dc4df1f6001
>>12244487I know. That's why I don't include mischievous. Still, I can see that someone can bully Baelz in horror games like Shishilamy horror collab. Mumei is probably great for Botan's role
>>12244459ES or RU for views numbers
>>12244453sauce on pic?
>>12244547It's like the Towa TMT meme. But there's hasn't been something as spammable yet for Baelz.
>>12244536Rene.
>>12244582if ID is profitable I guess the bar is really low then
>>12244594No idea, it's in the reaction image folder that I rediscovered, which probably means it's close to a decade old
>>12244529Yes, but the question was maximum seethe including ex-Niji, and well funded ounhabe to admit, that would cause just about as much seethe as you could get.
>>12244558We don't need to kill Niji. We just want the maximum anger from Nijifans.
>>12244582In November 2020, of course
>>12244307Jun is reclining…
>>12244398Ollie's numbers have been really bad lately, I wonder what happened
>>12244678council sucked up all the eops
Some more numbers news. Nijisanji returns to spamming tournaments with Splatoon.https://twitter.com/nijisanji_app/status/145443319850351821552 players and there's a tournament lottery tomorrow.
>>12244604Haven't really paid attention to much of her viewers but around the board its starting to be a running gag for Baelz to be ignored/forgotten on collabs.
>>12244550Nijis formula simply isn't that good. Hololive markets itself almost as interactive anime with people creating derived works and encouraged to build on the in universe interactions. Niji is far more like regular streaming. Hololive is replacing slice of life anime for most of its viewers while Niji is trying to compete with regular twitch streamers.
>>12244528>This schizo doesn't know Mori got 10k in yesterday's jump king stream
>>12244582He talked about HoloCn
>this threadAnd you guys wonder why people hate holofags so damn much. It's not even numbers, it's about boogeymen. Nijifags talk about their favorite livers, holofags talk about Nijisanji. I can't wait for you guys to settle down and start kneeling tomorrow when you will get mogged.
>>12244137>Meiro and Noel in the same company.Kek. I'd love to see them collab.
he's mad
>>12244536Siro. Speaks nip, english, and even german. But .live dies if she goes
>>12244720Pekora had 60k viewers when she beat Jump King. How many did Mori manage with her pseudo totsu stream?
>>12244720You are in the losing battle with SC comparison. Don't do it anon.
>>12244695Looks like Hololive just lost November.
>>12244695Its their annual splatoon tournament dont expect big numbers from them till December - January 2022
>GIVE ME N>GIVE ME I>GIVE ME J>GIVE ME I>GIVE ME S>GIVE ME E>GIVE ME E>GIVE ME H>GIVE ME T>GIVE ME EWHAT DOES IT SPELL?
>>12244695Mogging does not endhttps://youtu.be/trlVHJTeQxk>3k waiting, 21 hrs to go
>12244794Kek.
>>12244590kyOresu for HoloES
>>12244824>Premiere
>>12244824>premiereWell doesnt count kek
>>12244854Eh, time to 1 million should still be good. Female Kuzu buff, Popular song.
>>12244781A Heavenly king kneeling to hololive even past their prime would probably cause alot of seethe.
>EN outfits>Pekora outfit>MC sports festivalAny other big number events happening in november?
>>12244738Correction Nijifags seethe and anti livers who sing the Niji theme song without earning it. Hilarious that you try to portray yourself as poor viewers who just want to enjoy your vtubers when you've earned a well deserved reputation for being a completely cancerous fanbase. Why is Niji so unpopular? Gee could it be because Niji fans attacked clippers who tried to translate the content? Could it be because it's a notoriously insular and hostile community that actively rejects outsiders and viciously attacks any talent that earns their ire?Stop trying to act like a victim and suck up the results of your actions as a community.
>>12244824Where is contrail after having a premier of 10k+?
>>12244854>>12244869>premieres don't count when it's not HoloCope seethe etc
>>12244824>Can only get views on meme FOTM covers.Well at least he knows that his original sucks ass so he's focusing on what gets him views
>>12244824Is he going to sing in a girl's voice for it?
>>12244784Mori already made in top #11 all time SC in one year and monthCope and cry more loser
>>12244904They pumped him full of HRT for it
>>1224482410 million in 30 days.
>>12244890lamy birthday ?
>>12244904If he does I'll kneel so hard my legs will snap, that would be perfect alongside the 400k celebration.
Marine sucked so much air out of the number room nobody noticed Kuzuha is pulling 25k on a zatsuCan he beat the NijiRock for highest Niji stream today?
>Holo JP vs Holo EN>again >when there's only one winner which is Hololive
>>12244850Would be both for ES and RU. But she is probably to yabe to get in.
>>12244920Anon. Yes mori is doing really well and she is a monster in SC but she is behind 3 jp3 in SC this year. Don't timeloop this shit again.
>>12244890Is Pekora Outfit confirmed?
>>12244929>They pumped him full of HRT for itNO KUZUHA, DON'T EAT THE VEGGIE BURGER!Also>shadman
>>12245015No.
>>12244947Nah, about an hour in, don't think he'll get another 4k. Could be wrong though.
>>12244947he gets more numbers from doing literally nothing than he gets from valorant, LoL, and tarkov (during that one period when he played it a bunch)
>>12244784I was not expecting her to beat the game yesterday
>>12245015confirmed to be coming before the year ends but no date.
It will be interesting to see how many KR fans Hololive will bring in with the new KDA cover.
>>12245072Christmas stream reveal. Now that would be bomb.
>>12245037>literally nothingHe's talking about tomorrow's new outfit and celebration
>>12244738
>>12244890HoloMyth 3D Debut
>>12245135How would I know? I can't speak japanese
>>12245169Maybe in November 2022.
>>12244738You nijifags got mogged 25 days this month already, nijibros...
>>12245135yes i know but that's not why people showed up, is what i'm saying
>>12245169november of this year, anon
>>12245199>muh gold medalsJust a cope you fags came up with since you can't draw a big audience unless your shitty management bullies you're most popular livers into quitting.
>>12244959>YabeWhy? bf?Mumei and Fauna are fine, bros
>>12245191>>12245212Trust me. it'll happen 100%. I got insider info
>ESL>LiverDamn we got a lethal combo here
>12245274>you'reoh no no no
When is the thread gonna die? I want to post top winners already.
It's finally complete, Calli joins the rest of Myth in completely capturing KR attention
>>12245274SNIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIFFFFFFFFFFFFF>that delicious smell of COEP in the morning
Bae got 100k views in 9hrs for her cover. Not bad, rrat
>>12245314In about one hour or so
>>12245274
>>12244824>It takes king to become the best niji girl
>>12244896go back newfag
Can NijiKR recover?
>>12245284Nope, right winger.
>>12245339It is an amazing cover, I almost didn't recognise her voice
Mel only needs to trash her old model to incline, that shit looks so old already.
>>12245274How much is flop?
>>12245369There's nothing to recover in the first place.
>>12245363Kuzuha carrying the company once again.
>>12244582The official reason they released for cutting off the CN is that it was not profitable. Everyone knows the real reason.
Good micra numbers
>>12245418Literally Bora holding the entire thing together.
>>12244824>>12245363>>12245432I will fuck his bussy for sure
>>12245460She’s not holding anything together. It’s just her and a bunch of 2views basically
can Marine keep her #1 in general? Just one hour left for jp day to end
I'm sorry holo streams, but not gonna stop listeninghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Jz0hUbu1mw1 million in one week
Some NijiKR must feel like shit huh. They were made to get an audience in KR, yet some English speaking pioneers just swooped in and stole all of their thunder.
Views finally caught up!Likes mogged!
/#/ is inclining!
>>12245037It could have something to do with Valorant, LoL (when has he even played it?) and Tarkov being debuffs.Also chat interaction, which he hasn't done in a while.
>>12245536It’s really good. Can streamers play League of Legends or it’s behind permission hell?
Question:Why Holo's originals can rival covers?Top 70 Holo: 30 originals 40 covershttps://youtu.be/LJ9qc7WNggATop70 Niji : 10 originals 60 covershttps://youtu.be/dkKPuVi19SI
>>12245567NIJI MOGGED
I'm already seeing Korean comments on the group cover lol.
>>12245567>NijiEN…
>>12245536>>12245563Oh thank god youtube is finally done with their view checking. The pace was fucking dogshit for the first 2 hours (13k on first hour, 9k on 2nd hour)
>>12245567/#/ is unironically Vtubers/Random at this point.
>>12245631Cuz there's no other place to discuss numbers related to vtubers. Can't discuss shit at reddit or you get downvoted to oblivion.
>TOP WINNERS OF THE DAY - OCTOBER 20211) Korone (Hololive) - 71k - Birthday 3D2) Ayame (Hololive) - 86k - 3D Concert3) Hal (Indie) - 57k - CR lottery4) Noel (Hololive) - 101k - Outfit Reveal5) Fubuki (Hololive) - 72k - Birthday 3D6) Pekora (Hololive) - 45k - Minecraft (ENxSubaru)7) Subaru (Hololive) - 93k - 3rd Anniversary8) Pekora (Hololive) - 26.2k - Mario Kart 8DX9) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 53.4k - CR Cup Tournament10) Luna (Hololive) - 57k - Birthday 3D11) Pekora (Hololive) - 52k - TotsuClubhouse5112) Subaru (Hololive) - 38k - Card Unboxing with Luna13) Kanae (Nijisanji) - 54k - Outfit Reveal14) Pekora (Hololive) - 36k - Minecraft15) Naraka (Nijisanji) - 53k - 3D Debut16) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 33k - Blazing Sails Niji Tournament17) Pekora (Hololive) - 39.4k - Judge Eyes18) Pekora (Hololive) - 39.5k - Summer craft championship19) Suisei (Hololive) - 83.5k - Outfit Reveal20) Subaru (Hololive) - 26.4k - Minecraft21) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 63.2k - Survival Island End Stream22) Pekora (Hololive) - 32.2k - Minecraft23) Hal (Indie/Merise) - 45k - Merise Announcement24) Miko (Hololive) - 65k - Sportfes Announcement25) Miko (Hololive) - 32.7k - Minecraft (Sportfes preparation)26) Rushia (Hololive) - 30.4k - Umamusume gacha27) Pekora (Hololive) - 50k - Minecraft (PekoMiko)28) Hal (Merise) - 35k - Apex Custom (Stacked Pros&Preds)29) Pekora (Hololive) - 26.8k - Minecraft30) Marine (Hololive) - 76k - Return stream>Final deciding match for the end of october31) Mel's 3D concert vs. Kuzuha & Gen 1 concert >Last day winner gets 100 gold medals (kek jk)
>>12245579They have perms for it.They just don't want to.
>>12245536It's great and loopable so yes, definitely not impossible
>>12245681r/holostatistics
>>12245589Because Mori (moreso) and Suisei are original views monsters. You cannot find any other vtuber that put out originals with consistent views as those two.
>>12245720Unfortunately comparing to Niji would be NG, sides pretty sure that some of those posters lurk/participate here.
>>12245788Ah general comparison, yeah that won't work.
Has Life-sensei made it to midget leagues now?
>>12244824kek kuzuhas cover is already losing people on waiting room3k -> 2.5k
>>12245788Honestly, what would happen if someone here made a twitter account to post only holo vs niji numbers using graph anons stuff and daily charts
>>12245579Calli used to play LoL but she isn't interested anymore Riot probably would give Hololive a license but seems like no Holo wants to play it
>>12245844dont even suggest breaking containment, retard
>>12245844That sounds like a good way to get a bunch of angry tribalists on your ass for very little gain. Not like the graphs arent reposted on the jp imageboards anyways.
>>12245579League sounds like a fate worse than Apex unless if you're tyler1.
>>12245844There's a few of them actually, literally taken from here and credited to 4c. pops up on 'hololive' keyword through tweetdeck
Good all around numbers on this MC stream minus mio i guess.
>>12245925give miosha time, shes only 20min in still
>spacing streams out 1 hour at a timeOne of them lurks here...
>>1224556345k let's gooo
>>12246064none of them stream for just 1hr though
U-unicorn bros?! this can't be happening
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Jz0hUbu1mw>Literally doubled the views in the last 30 minutes comparing to the first two hours.At least youtube is done with their bullshit
>>12246064and I am the anon that suggested itstaffkun, you here? 1 cup of whiskey is enough
>>12246102not a vtuber fuck off
>>12246064There goes their "impromptu collab" cope.
>>12246099Well, they don't but at least they're starting to learn that overlapping 2 or 3 streams in the same timeslot doesn't work
>>12246128cope.watame is only getting 12k
>>12246138Orders from management due to decreasing viewership.Selen is good though.
>>12246099The objective is not pressuring your audience who to watch first, and when the former wraps up, the viewers can migrate no problem
>>12246088>>12246103Wait until DK vs T1 is over
>>12246102Pretty good.
>>12246199Didn't even think about Worlds Semis going on. Moona you might be a genius.
>>12246102no one cares about the reverse tranny and its friends now fuck off and post chuubas
>>12246230LCK civil war, probably the real final.
>>12246246meant for >>12246103
Marine got over 4 million yen SCs btw, Playboard hasn't picked it up yet (happens sometimes if an account doesn't stream for a while) but hopefully it will before today's chart is released
>>12246280Has Marine surpassed Pekora's SC yet?
>>12246352In total? Not yet.
>>12246064SEA timezone...
>>12245829Well people popped in to look as he announced it, 3k 20 hours out is not sustainable
>>12246102numbers look like they are not in any sort of competition for top stream today, what are you trying to prove with this?
Holo tsuyoi.
>anon circling back go SutopuriSad!
>>12246280>4 million yenShe got her money back from unison.
>>12246396Emperor Hal, I kneel!S-Sultan… :-(
>>12245844I wonder if there is a way to centralize all of the numberfagging, besides archive reps. I know we have a million websites to get data for individuals but most people in here are interested in more than that and like comparisons.
>>12246418>unisoncost her 10 million yen
>>12245844>what would happen if someone here made a twitter account to post only holo vs niji numbers using graph anons stuff and daily charts>>12246429>I wonder if there is a way to centralize all of the numberfaggingAnd that’s, kids, is how cancer is formed Please stay in the containment thread in the containment board in the containment site
>>12246429A numberfag here making a website on the same level as piyo but with daily charts for top vtubers, midget charts and a betting ring where we can bet fake cash like nasfaq on predicting who's getting the top 10 everyday
>>12246456>in the containment thread in the containment board in the containment siteThat kinda makes me feel bad. Can we go lower?
>>12246491>Can we go lower?Yes. Kneelers are the containment posters
>>12246483>NASFAQSounds like a pain, also stop bullying that thread it's already at the brink of death
>>12245567This is unironically the best place to discuss vtubers on this god forsaken site.
>>12246483That'd blow up so much, I bet the site traffic would be 90% Japanese in a week. I would like doing over/unders and futures more than guessing top 10s. Top 3s like in horse racing would be better. Fuck getting anyone to handicap this shit accurately though.
>>12246435Cover paid for half of it.
>>12246483Could always add who is getting what sponsorships.
>>12245589Because people don't care about Niji songs. Their originals all perform terrible. People aren't interested in their awful cover songs either but those get carried by the algorithm. They show up in the recommended feed of people who watched the Hololive version and that is the only way people even look at Nijikek garbage songs.
>>12246510Nasfaq thread is an alternate version of number's thread, we all talk about numbers. Why don't just merge it and make a site where we all can bet who gets the highest numbers.
>>12246596Imagine the seethe and how uncontrollable it would be.
>>12246596We need a casino more than a stock market.
>>12246596The archive reps will become tideous
>>12245736Watame is pretty consistent but unfortunately couldn't get as much views as Suisei.
>>1224608868k (+23k in 30 minutes)
what was kuzuha's audience gender demographics again?https://twitter.com/hashtag/%E3%81%8F%E3%81%9A%E3%81%AF%E3%82%8D%E3%81%82%E3%81%8B%E3%81%93%E3%83%BC%E3%81%A7?src=hashtag_click&f=live
>>12246820All me
>>12246820
>>1224682030-40 years old women
>>12245820Didnt he get 12k on pokemon? If he’s relatively consistent with 8-12k he’s hit mid-tier holo level, which is high-lever niji and everywhere else. No need to say midget
>>12246820so trannies?
>>12246064ILLEGAL VIEW FUNNELING
>>12246483>bettingAnon was right. This thread feels very close to /sp/
>>12246064They have been talking about trying to do this for months now. Selen got them all to setup a shared calendar a while back so they could avoid overlapping where possible. Just a lot of the time it isn't possible.
>>12247032it is a nice idea until you're the one who didnt pick prime time first
>>12246064Cowards
People were discussing why Nijisanji fans are so salty and obnoxious all the time. The answer is simple. There are very very few genuine Nijisanji fans. The vast majority of their fanbase is made up of contrarians watching them not because they like Niji, but because they want to be different and watch something else while most people are enjoying Hololive kino. If you ever met one of these people you would know that they tend to naturally be miserable assholes in their daily lives too.
>>12247056You know Selen has dibs on the prime time. Elira has seconds. Pomu thirds.The rest is first come first served
>>12247056And when some of the bigger members like Selen regularly streaming 4-6hrs and Elira frequently streaming 6-10hrs it really doesn't matter anyway.
>>12247056Yeah, they need someone to carry a big stick to keep everyone in line. I can imagine some people feeling bad because they keep getting in debuff slots. That is why we need a way to analyze who gets the best numbers in particular slots. I sure hope some anon figures that out, it'd be a great help.
>>12246230Another LoL song by Imagine Dragon was released on 28 Oct and is already 3,6 m view. Can the youtube algorithm somehow find this song related to Moona's The Baddest & recommend it?
>>12247076>contrarians watching themoh sweet summer child, they don't even watch any Niji. They're all false flaggers
>>12247113Go away, nijiintern
>>12247178>everybody but me are falseflaggers!
>Recently, Bae's korean clips have more views than other members even like Gura & KroniiHer cute personality makes her like the mangnae of the groupIf you know K-POP you will know that I'm talking about.
>>12247113Don’t know why they didn’t do it from the start.HoloEN decided as a group to do it before debut to help each other’s numbers.
>>12247076I think it is more likely that you don't interact with many genuine fans. If most of your exposure to them is in threads like these, shitposters in hololive threads and the threads clearly meant to incite arguments in the catalog then I can see why you might think that. But if you go into a Nijisanji thread, besides maybe the /jp/ one which is extremely hostile to newfags for historical reasons, and talk about Nijisanji you are probably going to be quite welcome. Lurking the EN thread and the Niji spoonfeeding thread on this board I have seen plenty of newfags get helpful recommendations. A lot of people in those threads don't even bother looking at the catalog because it always has bait like that.
>>12247292>If you know K-POPI don't
>>12247292Maknae is the right word anon.Maknae = youngest of the group
>>12246867>high-level everywhere elseThat's beyond God tier "everywhere else". You know there are dozens of thousands of vtubers who won't see three digits in their whole life, right?Hell, if he actually got 12k with Pokemon, that would make him high tier even within within Hololive.
>>12247292>mangnaeIt's maknae
>>12247238It'd be really funny if anyone in the biz lurks this thread. I can understand other threads but not this one. We don't even have real numbers, just Susan's voodoo.
>>12247076true about most western fans
>>12247113I don't really get how it is supposed to be helpful though. Elira starts a stream at 6 she is probably still going to be there are 2am. Selen starts a stream at 8 she is probably still going to be there at 2am. No matter where the smaller ones go the bigger ones are always going to overlap them unless its in completely off hours only.
>>12247305If most of your exposure to them is in threads like these, shitposters in hololive threads and the threads clearly meant to incite arguments in the catalog, NijiEN threads, NijiJP threads, 5ch threads, /jp/ threads, any comment section of any Nijisanji video, any comment section of Nijisanji clips and anywhere else in the internet where Hololive is mentioned in a positive way or NIjisanji in a negative way then I can see why you might think that
>>12247076>So nijiniggers are edgy
>>1224679483k (+16k in 30 minutes)It's starting to slow down
>>12247305>don't interact with many genuine fansCorrect. First off, they are contrarians who know Hololive is better but they have to feel special. Second, I have a very low opinion of Nijikeks and wouldn't give them the last penny in my pocket if they were starving on the street.
>>12247324That’s actually really interesting. Anyone remember those reality shows with kpop stars working on a farm? They’d have stars from a huge group, a veteran who’s not as popular but well liked, newbies trying to make a name for themselves. There are a lot of parallels to newcomers collabing with myth and JP. If KR fans start using kpop/variety analogies it will make engaging the KR fanbase. If they do a few KR streams, covers, and learn basic phrases they will eat that up. Hell they already are
eugh its over for T1
>>12247498>know Hololive is better but they have to feel special.>people can't have a preferencethis is why I hate holobronies
>>12247357>We don't even have real numbers, just Susan's voodoo.Well, that's probably all they have on their competitors as well.
>>12247425It helps people know where their sweet spots are. It doesn't fix everything but if streamers hit their sweet time slots consistently then it can really help them stop the bleeding.>>12247442I just ignore nijifans to be honest, niji shitposters speak my language and they argue in better faith than real fans do.
>>12247442>>12247498You post a well thought out response about why someone might have a bad impression of another fanbase and you get this disingenuous drivel in response.
>>12247529Ehhhh. Leaks are common when you have hundreds of talents on hand. Hell there have been direct Niji to Holo transfers and everyone is making deals with everyone. Artists sponsors partners etc will get a glimpse of numbers and that stuff gets shared to some extent.
>>12247572>you get this disingenuous drivel in response.
>marine still getting fat akasupasjesas
>>12247636It's SC reading. So much for protecting her voice. I'm surprised Hololive did so well this month without having their 1b to Pekora's 1a.
>>12247506Thats invincible youth if im not mistaken. The cast is usually 1-2 comedian, top idols, rising star/idol usually.
>>12247572
>>12247654if only dumb HoloCouncil would leave their sc open on their sc readings..
>>12247587They should just give us the numbers. I mean just /#/. We'll keep it in house and do some nice analysis on it, it won't break containment. Just some graphs, charts, and tables.
>>122475062 days 1 night?
Now that marine is set free, what will become of november? Full of marine and pekoras?
>>12247654Cover has an embarrassment of riches in terms of talent. Their top 4 (Peko, Marine, Gura, Miko) Has a legit claim to being the new age Heavenly kings while on Nijis end, only Kuzuha (when in tourney mode or APEX) even has an argument.
>>12247336>high tier even within within Hololive.Nah. 8-12k is firmly mid tier holo. Top holos easily break that level and are better off aiming to break 20k consistently. Then there’s Marine and Pekora
>>12247717I actually don't get why they unable sc during sc reading, yeah maybe they don't want to stay 1-2 more hours reading but we are talking about your main income here, after all they don't have personal merch yet
>>12247667That was it! It had two girls from Girls Generation who everyone else looked up to but the younger ones ended up pretty popular too. I think that’s exactly the feel random Minecraft collabs give me. The farm work/building is just a nice framing device. I also remember there was an episode where they were helping the military with something and a bunch of 18-19 year old soldiers were trying not to lose their shit the whole time. I think nijikr failing gave people the wrong idea. KR loves exactly the type of content HL especially creates. They just need to tap it correctly.
>>12247827Those shows are phase out nowadays anon. Alot of fans don't want their male/female idol to interact. Also alot of company produce their own variety /reality show either in YT or vlive. Also alot of retarded idol fans hate it when a comedian makes fun of their male idol.Lets not talk about kpop since they are different breed of numberfag.
elite baby does it again
>>12247800Those 4 could last longer than the last heavenly kings because they took the time to cultivate a good fanbase by streaming
sudden miko incline from okayu and flare ending. Anyone remember what the niji concert free portion got? was it 28k?
>>12248028The what now? I don't remember silvers.
>>12248021The Kingslayer.
>>12248021Hololive can't stop winning!Can she beat NijiRock?
>>12248082if marine ends there is a real chance.
Nijisanji was the originator of outward expansion but Hololive is the one who perfected it. Why did the spamming gen strategy work in the past but not now?
>>12248099>>12248082It's past midnight. The numbers are reset.
>Subaru on voice chatTHIS IS ILLEGAL!
>>12244824It will genuinely be the biggest Vampire cover.That's one of the big songs this year that never got a definitive cover.
>>12248130List is made from herehttps://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/archives-ranking?date=2021-10-30
>>12247076no waaaaaaaaay
Bae got 100k in about 10 hoursBGV & Mori - Crown got 100k in 30 hoursMoona's baddest is almost at 100k tooKiara will release a cover tomorrow and Mori a new original song
>>12248120>Mito drawing in a huge audience>Not many VTubers at the time since back then VTubers=3d>Paradigm shift from full 3d to live2d allowed Anykara to spam livers like no tomorrow so they could satiate the growing audience for chuubas.
>>12248162Depends on how motivated they are to rep that, they lost interest on contrail
Speaking of recent covers...
>>12248120First move advantage, they were the first popular streaming group. It was mostly prerecorded videos back then.
>>12248021Migo stop mogging reclining king aaaaaaaaaaaaa
>>122481829hrs
Wait, nijirock lost to the faggot princes?
WHERE IS YOUR GOD NOW, JUNFAGS!?
>>12248384I assume the majority of people would watch it on niconico.
>>12248384Nijirock was also for fags like you.
>>12248396is Pekora going to marry Marine instead now?
>>12248120Because Nijisanji excelled when the entire thing was new. Then Hololive came along and did it better.
>>12248021People laughed at me when I said that Kuzuha wasn't Pekora tier at all and was more Miko tier in reality. Turns out he can't even beat Miko anymore, hahahaha. A false King.
>>12248442jun is already married
>>1224802828k stream, around 35k tweets.
100K get after 4 hours. 1 mil in a week?
>>12248396Spoonfeed me. Why is this oji-san that is currently polling his audience on how big boobs his viewers like this popular? What is his target audience anyway?
>>12248582nip pewdiepie
Here comes the bigger numbers question.How much more 'art' with Kuzuha's Sanya get after this?
>>12248549>35k tweetsthat's weak, turns out there were less viewing on NNDWatame & Suisei in comparison was going wild both in twitter and spwn chat
>>12248574a weekend release is always string, but cover numbers drop off during the week.Even if it gets to 1 million in 10 days, it'll be something.
>>12248506Pekora's median is 27k, Kuzuha's median is 26kHow is he not Peko tier?
what happens to kuzugayfags, when kezuha becomes tranny?truly deserves the lgbtq flag
>>12248574Mori Calliope powaa
>>12248574i dont think itll go faster than Villain, unless the koreans really want to boost it. That song was nothing special to me
>>12248623Well you can argue that there are 10k nijifans who attend the concert so they can't tweet that much.
>>12248623It was a bunch of literal whos anyways. I feel sorry for those who thought it'd win.
>>12247818The JP started as 2-to-3-digits streamers, and they didn't get much until mid 2019 came in while EN started as 5-digits streamers. Different numbers form different cultures. Kiara tried to emulate the JP experience, and she got shit on a lot, so it seems like the Councils are going for Gurame's casual approach instead of Kiara's. Their numbers won't be as pretty as the JPs, but they'll get the 'inoffensive' trait, which boosts their mental defense against anti damage. This trait doesn't worth much if they can develop Kiara's 'thick skin'. Kiara cries a lot to get thousands in SCs, and then she'll stream for five hours the next day.
>>12248656Pekora don't pull this kind of number.
https://twitter.com/numarisou/status/1454397700057690112That's a lot of people.
>>12248695>mental defense against anti damageMatsuri is the master of that. Some of her streams got 1/3 dislike ratio but she doesn't seem to care that much.
>>12248606https://azure-gallery.net/illusts?query=%23SanyArt&cp=true&r18=true
>>12248747thats a few thousands
>>12248724do you know what median means?
>>12248783sounds like youre dodging his argument
>>12248724Does Pekora do unannounced streams in the middle of the night playing debuff games?
>>12248783give standard deviation.
>>12248747I see empty seats too
>>12248747Good for the Nijis, packed stadium for a rock concert is nice.Worried about that distancing, with how much Japanese companies overreact to things, if anything happens all future concerts will be canceled.
>>12248803what? If Kuzuha gets a 10k stream (that's not his peak btw), he's gonna get a 26k+ stream next.
>>12248817K U Z U C O E PUZUCOEP
>>12248839Yep just like they overreacted after Rain Drops concert
>>12248819that's your job. I've already given you a stat, it's your turn
>>12248817that's just coping. Miko can peak 20k+ playing mario kart at dawn jstor do i have to plaster Pekora's first attempt on jumpking, a real kusoge?
>>12248574With all the other stuff happening today, finally heard it.Just as cringe as expected, but everyone did great.Number wise, with EN's constant incline in the KR scene and Calli speaking so much of it, this'll do great numbers.Most interesting is if Moona and Risu get a big KR boost now.Moona already has Villain to sponge up Baddest viewers and Risu spoke some KR too.
>>12248852>10k stream (that's not his peak btw)look it up yourselfhttps://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/archives-ranking?date=2021-10-26
Marine's finally done, almost $40K in SC.
>>12248912>>12248724very consistent numbers when you turn off 10k bots
>>12248574Can't wait to see the top five weekly cover filled with Calli. Calli, Calli-HoloID, Calli-Suisei, Calli-Gura.
>>12248947my knees...
>>12248915what the fuck are you talking about
>>12248968kek
Kuzuha outfit 70-80k.Mel 3D 50-60k.
>>12248915it's a pretty generic cover.No one would care about it if it didn't have the Hololive brand
Woth how much Holo box-push, I expect any streams with Marine will have a return buff for 2 weeks. This means the Holo Sports Fes is going to massacre everyone else.
>>12248968Won't beat the weeks there were 11 Suisei covers in the top 50, but will knock a few out.
>>12249020Nijicope when their livers can't eve sing Kpop
>>12248968OKFAMS can compete with some of these.