/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>1219316
I don't care, on the reverse, I'd want to know your thoughts or why you'd think anyone would.

>>1219316
>to mostly minors
lol

>>1219316
Are you talking about horse game?

>>1219316
i don't give a shit if kids gamble

>>1219316
Who cares. Kids were all ruined by twitch anyway.

>>1219316
>It's an interesting topic imo
It's a troll topic

>>1219316
Don't let your children any electronic devices until they are 14

I don't know why you ask something like this here because stans don't give a shit about anything, literally, their favorite vtuber can be a serial killer and they will obsessively defend them no matter what

It's shitty, gacha is shitty. But gacha games are the most popular ones in Japan by far so this isn't even a discussion, go take it up with the Japanese government who will do absolutely nothing because I'm sure they're all getting nice kickbacks from the big mobage companies.

>>1219316
Where are their parents?

>>1219316
They promote whatever they want, if retards go with it, then it's their choice. No one gives a fuck.

>>1219316
I agree, they should promote marriage and reproduction instead

>>1219439

>>1219360
The vtuber demographic is mostly teens, he's not wrong there, a 15,16,17 kid is still a minor

>>1219316
The kind of minors that shouldn't be exposed to gambling are very young kids (<14) and I don't thing that there are a lot of sub14 kids watching Hololive.
With that being said, claw machine streams are literally the same and Sasaki Saku from Niji streamed a one of those token machine games

I kind of doubt the audience is mostly minors to begin with. If you look at the closest competitor in Nijisanji the vast majority of their viewers are between 18-34 with the biggest chunk being college aged. Although with Hololive being successful globally maybe their demographics are radically different now.

Not my problem. Gachas and gambling in general is huge in Japan, society seems very accepting of it.

>>1219511
>15,16,17 kid is still a minor
Do Americans really?

>>1219526
What country do you live in that 15 is considered a legal adult? Somalia?

>>1219511
For Gura maybe but for the rest of them the majority is in their 20s with a suprising amount of ojisans, they wouldn't make any money if it was just kids watching

>>1219439
I don't really care what entertainers do in their off-time. A lot of them are pedophiles, deviants, fucking weirdos, whatever. I only pay attention to them because of a particular talent they have. If Scorcese is raping goats when he isn't making movies that doesn't mean shit for how much I enjoy Casino.

>>1219544
You can drink beer at 16 in Germany

>>1219527
They're this permissive of online gambling but playing poker for real stakes is illegal. Moron country.

>>1219316
Kids dont have enough money to gamble away for it to be a problem.
And if they are fucked out of some sum of savings, it's a good lesson for later in life

>>1219316
#Ad

>>1219316
it's worse to have kids watching some big twitch streamers that promote weird politic ideologies or a deviant view of sex

>>1219316
And everyone else is playing genshin impact, next question

>>1219554
You're still a minor. Age of adulthood in Germany is 18.

>>1219316
caring about "minors" is a spook

>>1219526
>>1219554
19 year olds are minors in Japan retard

>>1219621
>>1219641
Is gacha more important than beer or age of consent?

>>1219316
Most countries already have legal restrictions on minors spending money on gacha.
Also it's not gambling because you don't get money back and you can't lose. You're paying for pixels and and you can't not get pixels. Sure you mightn't get the pixels you wanted, but you're not walking away with nothing.

>>1219316
Kids are dumb, and if provided with money, will waste it anyway. Rather they use and learn a few lessons about money sooner than later in their lifes.

>>1219439
Unironically true

>>1219645
Age of consent, drinking/smoking, marriage, military enlistment, school withdrawal, familial emancipation, independent living, ability to make legal agreements, gambling ect are all different depending on the country and state/province you live in, but 18 is a pretty standard age for being considered an adult in developed countries.

Gacha isn't gambling. Just because something has random elements, it doesn't make it gambling. Once you spend your $100 on pulls you are never seeing that money again regardless of how lucky you are.

>>1219316
it's no different than people peddling Pokemon cards to kids online.

>>1219316
they ask their idols to dance on weird curry, not surprising if they would whore them out soon

>>1219316
It's their money to lose, but watching gacha streams is not interesting at all to me.

>>1219929
Autistic technicalfag missing the point as per usual.

>>1219316
>Be gacha addict
>Discover Hololive through Azur lane
>Gives up gacha to simp to vtubers
I'd say vtubers cannot efficiently promote gacha due to conflict of interest. If you are a vtuber addict, chances are, you have no dedicated gacha game anymore.

>>1219439
>stans
Consider suicide, my negro.

>>1220089
What's the problem? That gacha games make spending money too much fun?
STOP HAVING FUN SPENDING YOUR MONEY.

>>1219316
From the Nip context? Sure. THE ECONOMY, and all that biz.

>>1219316
Is it really any worse than promoting simping? They're both fake happiness derived from emotional manipulation for a monetary cost.

>>1219439
the word you are looking for is gachikoi

>>1219316
Yes, in fact I encourage it. Gatcha games are to weebs what lottery tickets are to poor people. People who allow themselves to bet exploited by these games, when they are so blatantly money pits, deserve to be milked of every last cent.

>>1220221
Love can at least inspire you to change for the better, gacha gives you nothing but a short jolt of the most basic pleasure.

>>1219316
I'm not, fuck gacha cancer.
Still not worth throwing a shitfit over I guess if they're just doing it to earn some extra bucks. I do find it hard to care about holos who are known gacha addicts though, like Suisei or Ina.

>>1220482
>Suisei or Ina
Dirty Takamori hands wrote this

>>1219316
hololive is just one of many people promoting gatcha
in case you haven't noticed, they actually have gacha games being promoted on billboards in railway stations and on major buildings in akihabara etc.
gacha's here to stay for Japan's companies, look up how gacha games took over konami and how hideo kojima was put to the side because gacha games proved to be more profitable and took less money to make and sustain

>>1219439
>stans
Kill yourself kpop fan

>>1219917
>USA
>Developed country

>>1219316
>NOOOOOOO NOT THE HECCIN MINORINOS
I don't give a shit about other people's retarded kids

>>1220566
I really don't give a shit a bout Mori or Kiara either.
What do they have against Suisei anyway? Wasn't aware that was a thing.

>>1220671
Morifags seethe when you tell them that Suisei has the best voice in Hololive

>>1219316
i have no reason to be angry at gacha cause is all free to play

>>1219316
Kids are fucked whichever way they turn. Kids-oriented media are designed to propagandize, brainwash and scare the fuck out of them. WAP is declared song of the year. Drugs, violence and sex are abundant in media and unavoidable. Oh, but gacha is the dangerous one.

>>1219316
Yeah, I'm pretty cool with it, I hope everyone who's braindead enough to get addicted and throw away lifetime savings on a game does it cause it's the only thing people like that are good for

>>1219439
Go back to whatever shithole you came from

>>1220659
kek, stop making fun of burgers pls

>>1219439
>stans

How is playing gacha promoting gambling? Do you also think hololive is promoting murder cause their talents play gta v?

A fucking casual board. Kids want to collect shit and its not even new. In Japan, almost all kids were desperately collecting and consuming Bikkuri man, Card dasu, and literal real gachapon. In the west, pokeman trading cards and shit were/are that. If you don't have such an experience as a kid you are just either a poor third world monkey or a boring puritan child.

>>1220909
They do actually paid streams by the companies to promote the games. Not that I have a problem with it.

>>1220639
Stans, gachikoi, fanboy, simps etc etc etc
All of them are the same cancer, sick people iving in a parasocial relationship with their favorite "someone"

>>1219316
Fuck the kids, anything done in their name is a cheap emotional tactic. Gacha, card pack openings, toy unboxings, lootbox openings, Genshit and the like are only going to get more common in the west. Get used too it, shits too profitable to crackdown on.

>>1219316
>Minors
You're a fucking retard, maybe parents ought to pay attention to their shitty kids

>>1219511
>The vtuber demographic is mostly teens

I have no idea how you came to that conclusion, simply watching any of the streams you'd see far too much money being thrown at the girls for their viewership to be anything but the coveted lonely 25-40 year old single male with lots of expendable income demographic.

No they are degenerates and should be taken to the sex dungeon.

>>1221381
Not disagreeing about the demographics you are talking about but the people giving the money are the minority of viewers.

Why the fuck would anyone give a shit about them shilling something that exploits weak willed retards, when the very nature of their job entails the exact same fucking thing?

The demo for thsese Vtubers vary depending who you are watching. That is also part of why they get the sponsorships that they do. Lamy, Noel and Aki got liqour sponsors because they have a mature audience. Fubuki, Marine and Pekora get gacha sponsors because their demo are mostly young adults. And so on and so forth.

I don't care if they play gacha games. As long as they are paid well.

>>1221491
Then Pekora's own viewer survey should be better proof: Her two largest demographics are viewers in their 20s and 30s, and they're 93% men.

AKA the coveted lonely 25-40 year old single male with lots of expendable income demographic, which vtubers are deliberately aimed at.

>>1221592
Disclaimer: These are from a poll she posted on twitter as opposed to analytics from YouTube.

>>1221645
None of them are ever gonna show youtube analytics after the taiwan yab.

>>1221717
Even if they did how many teens actually tell the truth when setting up their google account instead of just lying to bypass age filters, pretty sure if I was still using my original google account it would say I am 40 by now (actually mid 20s).

>>1222760
So you're saying that majority of those 93% are all under 18 or something?? You are stretching your argument so that it can fit your narrative.

>>1219316
>Falling for sponsorship streams
They deserve it
I'm glad my oshi at least makes them interesting

>>1219316
They are company, their first and foremost role is to make money. Gatcha games are not illegal in most parts of the world, too. So if a company producing gatcha games will want to collab with Cover and YAGOO will find it to be a good business idea then why the fuck not?
And don't even start moral talking, morality is subjective and you can't say what should or should not be according to just what's in your head, fag.

>>1221589
Marines fanbase is diverse but im sure shes specially popular among 25-40yo japanese millennials because of her topics. clip faggots never translate those japanese old school internet/otalu topics because they are unknown things in the west and hard to localise but its the strongest part of her appeal.

>>1223049
No, I am just saying that whether the data is from youtube analytics or a random poll it doesn't matter as it is about as unlikely to be accurate one way or another

>>1219507
I WONDER

>>1219439
Expert level board comprehension

>>1219316
>app stores do age-gating
why do you care so much about minors anyway, are you a groomer?

>>1219554
Being able to drink legally doesn't make you a mature person anon.

>>1219316
Hololive is not for children
See gura saying fuck the kids