/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

ccv + sc
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://overseas.live-ranking.com/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/total-ranking/youtube
>https://www.dousetu.com/daily_ranking/
>http://v-ana.com/
>https://playboard.co/en/

Hololive
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://twitter.com/holo_data
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://mipacd.github.io/chat-stats/excl-chat.html
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html

Nijisanji
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings

Clear win

>>12138719
Thanks for the rundown anon.

Alright, give it up for Hal, winner for today. Do you still stick the indie tag on him at this point?

>>12139127
>Do you still stick the indie tag on him at this point?
Nope, he should be styled as "merise" from now one

Even has a vtuber wiki page
https://virtualyoutuber.fandom.com/wiki/Merise

Mio just wrapped up
So prob no more chance for Holo tonight

>>12139127
Yeah i guess since he didn't start officially with Merise yet

holobroonies btfo

>>12139127
honorary niji lol

>>12139127
Rather I don't understand why anons are having a hard time tagging him to merise, he's a co-founder...

>>12139127
What is Merise doing currently? Do they have talents yet?
If they have some actual other vtuber streaming under the tag then I am down for it. Feels weird.
Don't feel that strong either way.

>>12139127
Is he Merise or just staff?

Close but no cigar

>>12138981
Roboco is a Cover talent like Miko, except she was under the hololive brand instead of spun off like Miko

I can't believe it, I thought that the jinx post works only for niji....

>>12139204
Wiki has him as merise now. People here should consider that as well

How long until Merise has more #1 in the ranking than Nijisanji?

Pekora ended as well. She should've ended 20mins earlier, Mio could've won.
But i guess Hal deserve a win every once in a while. Too bad he's no longer indie since he's Merise now

>>12139095
>>12138748

This guy, I just tagged myself lol.

>>12139238
just great, people will now resort to actual vodoo magic.

>>12139212
damn that's a smooth curve tho

This is why Peko-Miko can into 50k (almost)

>>12139249
as long as they keep leeching one another on apex custom every day

>>12139197
2nd, 3rd, 4th and 5th aren't bad for a day unlike Nijis (like most days, always losing)

>>12139304
>damn that's a smooth curve tho
Meanwhile, on Subaru Micra
>god why?! MAKE IT STOP!

For coping holobros here, it seems Korone and Okayu are doing Mario Party. Will it have chance? Its too late now however

>>12139397
no way

>>12139397
>Mario
naw

>>12139397
no shot

>>12139397
thats past midnight

Jun's apex custom wins the day huh

>>12139397
for 35k+? No, low 20kish definitely doable.

OH NO NO NO NO NO NO NO AKI INCLINING!
>SHE CAN STILL WIN THIS BROS!

That was a surprisingly weak Ayame buff to be honest, considering how long she was gone.

>>12139498
It's not on her channel.

>>12139498
Ayame collab fee wasn't worth it.

>>12139498
Or okfams has to much of an overlap of viewers.

>>12139353
her stream was buffering a lot

>PREDICTIONS ON TIME TO 1M?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbKfZy5Jpgk

>>12139598
can't predict until I hear the song

K-King... :-(

>>12139648
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JedKBJVHhiE
Original version

>>12139598
6 days

>>12139598
Ayame is there.
Not Ayame channel though.
These are some pretty good singers though. Not really familiar with songs but I'll say Horse gacha song + 4 days.

>>12139659
He's even losing to Hal for overall wins of the month now...

>>12139663
Sounds shit. 2 weeks?

Moona's new KDA will likely reach 1m faster having Mori in it

Merise needs a single meme clip and they'll be blowing up globally. One single Hal can even beat the strongest Hololive members.

>>12139738
I want to see how fast is the cover with Mori and K/DA buff

>>12139598
If it was on Ayame's Channel then it could easily gain it on a day or two.
*Collab Cover Buff
*Holloween Themed Song
*First ever OKFAMS Song?
×Mio debuff (she's mid tier holo but everyone here is bigger than her)
I predict 4-5 Days

>>12139755
Ok ok , settle down.

>>12139755
>blowing up globally
>APEX
doubt

>>12139663
That is a shit choice of a song.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSw_0FmjmEE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Jz0hUbu1mw
If Mori can have these to 1m views in under a week she is literally a god. I doubt it though

>>12139598
how long did aqua's umapyoi take? longer than that for sure

>>12139784
Yeah, let's not get crazy here. He was lucky they put the collab on Mio's channel

>>12139755
Kuzuha should join Merise. Leave Nijisanji in the dust

>>12139769
is it mori or moona?

>>12139755
Don't be delusional, Hal can only get such numbers in major tourney or major collabs.
Botan mogged him once in a collab and he can't get consistent high CCV like Pekora, Miko, Marine and etc.

>>12139755
meds

>>12139776
>>12139816
Umapyoi took 8 days 13 hours and the original song is way better than OKFAMS

>>12139824
Moona. The only song on Mori's channel is 10/31.

>>12139659
take that shit out of here, Hal is the new king

>>12139810
>Boogey Voxx ft. Mori
e-celebs and twitter faggots mogged

>>12139810
On Boogey's channel? No way. They have like 13.5K followers on Twitter

>>12139755
I mean if not shitpost question, Hal will probably benefit more from a popular epic outplay montage more than memeclips since he is an fpstuber.

>>12139798
>>12139663
I thought it was Yoasobi.
Welp, that sucks.

>>12139854
Isn't the title Emperor higher than King?

>>12139863
Yeah not the collab with BGV unless it's a major banger. 5:30 length will also debuff the replayability. Prob gonna end up with the same pace as Spiral Tones

>>12139873
Hal is now both the emperor and the king

>>12139894
King of majisanji, Emperor of the indies. Ruler of Merise.

>>12139847
Who's got the list of time to 1 million? Just getting to 1 million used to be a pretty impressive feat but Suisei/Gura/Mori sort of reset everyone's expectations I feel.

>>12139810
Moona may not be top tier holo, but her songs in her channel reach 1 million pretty consistently
KDA an Mori buff should push it in in less than a week

>>12139894
>Hal is now both the emperor and the king
He was already the emperor (of all VTubers) and the king (of Indies)

>Hal
He's hardly anything without Apex and his god views. Kuzuha is still more consistent.

>>12139810
Moona’s songs gets to 1 mil pretty fast, so having it reach 1 mil in under a week is possible with only the K/DA buff in mind

>>12139810
Crown 15 days
Moona's KDA Cover 8 days
Mori's original song 5 days

Caligula's King is most likely hitting 10M tomorrow, making it 59 days. Previous record to 10M was Kuzuha's King (86 days). Previous holo record was Gura's Reflect (90 days), or Ayame's Goodbye Sengen (116 days) if we only consider covers.

>>12139946
>>12140072
>>12140099
How long did it take Moona’s Villain cover to reach 1 mil?

>>12140120
>59 days
lmao another record broken

>>12140120
K-King... :-(

>>12140120
There goes Niji's bragging rights in songs.

>>12140120
King, d-don't look

>>12140123
20 days

>end of life react clip translated
holo still have a strong capture on HK& TW
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVxAD0yqC3o

>>12140223
Holy shit that translated reaction has 3 times the views of the original reaction. The Hololive clip machine is on another level

>>12139971
Former king. He is not indie anymore.

>>12140120
probably 2 days, so 60 days total

>>12140223
Who the fuck is the colored bloke and why his reaction picked up this much speed?

>>12140263
it normally get boosted when 'they' are near the goal, i noticed

>>12140260
King of minors now, with "majors" being Hololive and Nijisanji for Youtube and VShojo for Twitch

>hololive loses
>now the thread is about song traction
Typical

>>12139856
Why?

>>12139863
The disparity between Boogey Voxx and Mori is enormous. Has there been an music collab with a bigger gap before?

>>12140389
Everyone is happy to see Hal win, I know I am.

Mel's orisong just reached 100k views, think there is a chance of a second strong push by unaware casuals if its advertised/performed during her Birthday Live?

>>12140389
>the thread is about
The thread "is about" whatever the fuck the 29 people currently actively posting is talking about.
You are one of those, talk about whatever you want.

>>12140479
>Everyone is happy to see Hal win, I know I am.
KNEEL BROS ASSEMBLE!!

>EMPEROR HAL, WE ALL KNEW BEFORE YOUR MAGNIFICENT AND SHOTALICIOUS PRESENCE!
Take this knee on behalf of the whole thread!

>>12140396
Disparity between followers on Twitter?
TAKU INOUE has about 40k followers

>PekoMiko gets 49k
holochads moves on
>hal wins by 402 difference, in a custom with 60 people in it
PRAISE US MOOREEEE

>>12140524
AAAAH MY KNEES

>>12140586
holobroonies cope

No medals for nijisanji today? declining
>merise
>vspo
they've got a lot on their plate

>>12139934
>>10533317
>My guess for Kuzuha's song is 3 days
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

Fastest Hololive Songs to break a million views (updated OP to 10/28)
REFLECT (Gawr Gura) - 10 hours (29m)
KING (Gura and Mori) - 11 hours (36m)
UNISON (Houshou Marine) - 39 hours
Off With Their Heads (Mori Calliope) - 45 hours
Roki (Mori Calliope) - 2 Days (0h 26m)
Goodbye Sengen (Nakiri Ayame) - 2 Days (14h 51m)
Kiseki Knot (4th Gen) - 2 Days (17h 0m)
Can You Do the Hololive? (All members) - 3 Days
Hololive Ochame Kinou (All members) - 3 Days
end of a life (Calliope Mori) - 3 days (9h 50m) **NEW**
GETCHA! (Suisei and Mori) - 4 Days (1h 45m)
RIP (Mori Calliope) - 5 Days
KING (Nakiri Ayame) - 5 Days
Goodbye Sengen (Minato Aqua) - 5 Days
KING (Hoshimachi Suisei) - 5 Days
Red (Mori Calliope) - 6 Days
Peko Miko War (Miko and Pekora) - 6 Days
Goodbye Sengen (Takanashi Kiara) - 6 Days (18h 37m)
Sorairo Days (Matsuri and Gura) - 7 Days
Ijimekko Bully (Mori Calliope) - 8 Days (10h 1m)
Umapyoi Densetsu (Aqua/Fubuki/Mio/Rushia/Marine/Kanata) - 8 days (13h 43m) **NEW**
Goodbye Sengen (Uruha Rushia) - 8 Days (17h 6m)
Fansa (Kiryu Coco) - 8 days (18h 0m)
Violet (Ninomae Ina'nis) - 9 Days (13h 40m)
The Grim Reaper is a Live Streamer (Mori Calliope) - 9 Days (13h 54m)
Mogu Mogu Yummy! (Nekomata Okayu) - 10 Days
Vampire (Minato Aqua) - 10 days
Turing Love (Moona and Pekora - 10 Days (0h 24m)
Bluerose (Hoshimachi Suisei) - 10 Days (3h 37m)
Ghost (Hoshimachi Suisei) - 11 Days
Envy Baby (Mori Calliope) - 11 Days (21h 3m)
Stellar Stellar (Hoshimachi Suisei) - 12 Days (14h 41m) **NEW**
DEAD BEATS (Mori Calliope) - 13 Days
Saga Jihen (Suisei & 3rd Gen) - 13 Days
Cry Baby (Hoshimachi Suisei) - 13 Days (1h 10m)
Veah (Haachama) - 13 Days (22h 24m) **NEW**
Live Again (Mori Calliope) - 14 Days
Ahoy (Houshou Marine) - 15 Days
Take Me Home, Country Roads (HoloEN) - 15 Days
Palette (Tokoyami Towa) - 15 Days
Odo (Murasaki Shion) - 15 Days (14h 11m)
Shitsuraku Petri (Nekomata Okayu) - 16 Days
Shoujo Rei (Hoshimachi Suisei) - 16 Days (2h 21m)
Hana ni Bourei (Nakiri Ayame) - 16 Days (2h 37m)
adrenaline!!! (Oozora Subaru / Shigure Ui) - 16 Days (4h 5m) **NEW**
KING (Pavolia Reine) - 17 Days
Weather Hackers (Kiryu Coco) - 17 Days (0h 14m)
KING (Murasaki Shion) - 19 Days
Envy Baby (Omaru Polka) - 19 Days
Cinderella (Usada Pekora) - 19 days (18h 26m) **NEW**
Usseewa (Murasaki Shion) - 20 Days
VILLAIN (Moona Hoshinova) - 20 Days
Aikotoba III (Kiara and Gura) - 21 Days
FLOS (Nekomata Okayu) - 21 Days
Ranbu no Melody (Hoshimachi Suisei) - 21 Days
RED HEART (Akai Haato) - 23 Days
HINOTORI (Takanashi Kiara) - 23 Days
p.h. (Nekomata Okayu) - 24 Days (19h 25m)
SPARKS (Takanashi Kiara - 24 Days (19h 49m)
Alice in N.Y (Sora, Kanata, Suisei, Marine, Flare) - 28 Days
Vampire (Omaru Polka) - 28 Days
KING (Tokoyami Towa) - 28 Days
Cursed Night (Mori Calliope) - 29 Days
Blessing (NePoLaBo) - 29 Days (1h 10m) **NEW**
Kakero (Hoshimachi Suisei) - 29 Days (10h 38m)
Plasmagic Seasons (1st Gen) - 30 Days

>>12140667
Not even a silver or a bronze for Niji. Only Kanae and Kuzuha above 10k today as well...

>>12140690
Christ, you really dug up that post to shit on that's prediction? That's some dedication.

>>12140690
>My guess for Kuzuha's song is 3 days
this about Curtain? I haven't checked, is it still stuck at under 6% like ratio?

>>12140720
No someone asked for it so I did archive reps and updated the list. I just found OP's prediction of Kuzuha's first original hilarious (not even a bad prediction, his song just flopped horribly)

>>12140586
I mean, a win is a win, got to give them this one

>>12140796
I mean, no one is disputing it

>>12140524
uuohh... look like something interesting happen... I'm gonna kneel too to the new king.
t.ourist

>>12140580
That guy is literally a "who?' in the industry yet you Holotards are creaming like he's some sort of big deal.

>>12140690
So I was watching the MythED and thinking, did they use an actual anime ED song for this? Before I realized it was Violet. 9 days for octopus destination is actually really impressive. Kiara Sengen under a week also surprises me a little. Only 19 songs have ever done a million in under a week, so it's a pretty good benchmark

>>12140690
>Goodbye Sengen (Nakiri Ayame) - 2 Days (14h 51m)
Fastest Solo Cover for Ayame
>DABS ON THEM HATERS

>>12140903
Numbers aside, 3:12 is an incredible song and we Holotards are excited for his collab with Mori

>>12140258
speaking of reaction clips

>>12140903
>hololive gets hated for seemingly not paying attention to "whos"
>hololive still gets hated for collabing with "whos"
The fuck are you on about faggot?

>>12140120
Holo originals can rival FOTM covers is much more impressed.
Only KAMITSUBAKI can also do it

>>12141012
>>12140690 this

>>12140903
It's exactly a big deal, Mori collabing with a little known artist, giving them career boost. Your mind is in the gutter.

>this humble vtuber/clipper has a higher sub count and a higher VOD view count than many vtubers from major companies including all of HoloEN/ID/KR (and also Sana)
WELL ANONS?

>still didn't beat Choco Sub tutorial final boss tho.

Don't insert yourself sudafuck, your face looks like a canal

>this humble vtuber/clipper has a higher sub count and a higher VOD view count than many vtubers from major companies including all of **NIJI**EN/ID/KR (and also Sana)
WELL ANONS?

>still didn't beat Choco Sub tutorial final boss tho.

>>12140903
I don't know why but is common to see people talking japanese artists with a few thousands of followers like they are someone famous or relevant

>>12141058
Suisei got his song playing on the radio didn’t she?

>>12141115
He probably is making more money than Hololive's bottom tier

what the 10k charts dont show you

can Kiara break 10k with her pumpkin carving?

I hope people realized the fuck out how sleazy those Trash Taste dudes are, but it seems Vshojo and Niji fans are drinking their coolaids.

I especially really feel bad for Ollie. The poor girl has good intention of spreading vtuber culture but it seems she's being used by Connor and Sodapunk as a stepping stone. It's fortunate that these two leeches have stopped for now but we don't know yet.

>>12141494
>Ollie
Smart on school, too young for the real world

>Top results on a search for "Hololive" on Youtube, filtered by "This Month"

Doesn't look like Kenmochi is getting his 20k today, I swear he actually gets debuffed when he plays games.
Then again, Kuzuha didn't get 20k today either so it's a rough day for Niji overall.

>>12141644
5 Guras, 4 of those from her own channel.

It's 6 Guras if you want to count the one where Calli chops Gura's tree.

>>12141558
typical spoiled girls, naive as fuck. cant really blame her for everything. kinda sad position she's in

>Top results on a search for "Hololive" on Youtube, filtered by "This Week" and "Under 4 minutes"
Sushi surely got the clipping market on a leash

>>12141644
I think you would have a clearer view of who's on top if you use "Vtuber" or "Virtual Youtuber" instead

>>12141359
Most likely, her voice isn't nearly as bad when she's further away from her mic, and generally she gets better numbers when she does these types of streams. She's already at 9.6k

>>12141644
Here's the top 10 if you search
ホロライブ instead. Almost the same

>>12141734
Seriously, both Sushi and Sashimi are just helping Cover strangle the clipping market at this point, one for JP and one for EN

>>12141494
I don't know if these people have never tasted what rejection feels like (they've been on Youtube for years now, they should know what it's like to be rejected by companies or other bigger channels) or they thought that Cover would instantly suck their dicks as thanks for even noticing them.
Nothing against them personally, but the recent outbursts of Joey (over the Nene Playboy thing) and now Connor just screams them being insecure of Hololive's recent popularity and that they were not able to ride on it

>>12141886
? Isn't it the same dude, just Sashimi is the EN clips (untranslated) and Sushi is translated?

>>12141745
>I think you would have a clearer view of who's on top if you use "Vtuber"
kek, nobody uses "vtuber" in the west, mostly because it is too generic, something like using "musician" on a MV

Proof to that:
>Top results on a search for "vtuber" on Youtube, filtered by "This Month".

There is PMaru 3D debut, Nijisanji variety then MafuMafu and Connor, both clearly squatting on the tag.
About Connor, he will end up being Ironmouse undoing, he's trying to leech on her (and failing?) for months now.
Ollie surely dodged a bullet there

>>12141861
>Here's the top 10 if you search
Looks a little empty

>>12141359
10k get

>>12141903
>Nothing against them personally, but the recent outbursts of Joey (over the Nene Playboy thing) and now Connor just screams them being insecure of Hololive's recent popularity and that they were not able to ride on it
QRD?

>>12142024
previous thread, very recent

>>12142024
Archive reps last thread

>>12141494
Did something happen recently or are you timelooping?

>>12139659
>Valo
STOP RIOT
JUST STOP IT
Only gaijins and weeabos are playing it
...and some overwatch players
But will never reach the CS players

>>12141903
>just screams them being insecure of Hololive's recent popularity and that they were not able to ride on it
It's not that. I actually listen to their podcast and they ended up making the same "journey" as Nyanners

>started as part of the "rebel" rowdy internet crowd
>succeeded on that account
>got lots of "tagalongers"
>became big enough for said "tag alongers" to be able to convince them to either comform to the current standards (meaning extreme political correctness) or else you're a bad person

You can see the difference between their former selves and their present form to the point their whole past episode was them saying
>YEAH, WE CHANGED!
>DEAL WITH IT!
>WE'RE NOT 20 YEARS OLD ANYMORE!

It's pretty much what happened to Joe Rogan and Pewds as well and, in an example closer to home, what happened to Moot
You can be "rowdy" or you can have "normie friends" but never both

>>12142083
Check last thread, seems people are pissed about CDawgVA. I think there's a clip of him on YT talking about Hololive not being good streamers.

>>12142083
Archive reps, last thread.
Basically conversation went from rpr being a legit fan to people like Trash Taste people who were clearly in it to leech

EGGS BTFO!

>>12141941
look at that connor leech

>>12142083
tl;dr they're leech only use Hololive to boost numbers
Maybe anons hate against MorixTT collabs somewhat justified.

>Kenmochi and Kuzuha couldn't reach 20k today.

>>12142118
But it doesn't explain anything about them being bitter towards Hololive. It's not like Hololive is non PC anyway. In fact, Hololive is probably the most PC out of all vtuber agency and their fans are similar as well.

>>12142118
Pewds just ignores the shitters, he doesnt really conform to all their bs. Kinda same as gura or even mousey

>>12142093
Both Pegora and Gura had low peaks this week, must as well join the fun

>>12142255
Hololive refused to let them leech off them (blacklisted).

>>12142083
Did my archive reps just now and apart from the new Nene video, there's nothing new.

>>12142294
There's also a twitch clip from last thread here, unless you've already seen this.>>12138675
https://www.twitch.tv/ironmouse/clip/WealthySuccessfulPeafowlCmonBruh-BUqXwdethhH0qMMN?filter=clips&range=30d&sort=time

>>12142197
>look at that connor leech
FUCKING KEK, you think *that* is leeching

>LOOK AT THIS HERE
THIS is leeching on a pro level.

Again, Ollie dodged a bullet there and if it was Cover management forbidding her from collabing with them more
>THANKS MANE CHAN!

>>12142255
>being bitter towards Hololive.
Imagine unironically thinking this off of hearsay and 2 clips

>>12142339
Now imagine this with Ollie or Mori.

If there's one thing I can give credit to 4chan, it's the fact that shitty people will get exposed here and maybe reaching the normies as well.

>>12142185
11k 2 days in a row for Kiara.
This hasn't happened in a long time.

Also, she'd probably be a pretty successful irl/hand tuber at this point. Provided she'd still be in Hololive.

>>12142339
mousey should start charging him for all those views

>>12142339
Now though, what would IronMouse's manager think about this? Or does she even have a manager at all?

>>12141494
>Niji fans are drinking their coolaids.
What the fuck Nijifags? Don't you know a grifter when you see one?

Strong monthly growth for Suisei, best among the JPs.

>>12142412
Pretty sure they are all still independent i.e. RunGun just handles merch and lets them do what the fuck they want, just collectively under one banner.

>>12142440
Good growth of Council too. I guess the constant collab has helped them inclined a bit.

>>12142342
Yea, guess I gotta go through some of their recent vids just to confirm if they're really shilling Niji as of late, and to confirm some of the stuff that was stated last thread. Better to confirm hearsay than to assume its true.

>>12142416
Nijifags are contrarians. If Holofags hate it, then they love it.

>>12142337
That's an old clip and honestly, maybe because I'm desensitized from reading the same arguments in bait threads all the time, but it's just a "truth" even if it's something that shouldn't be said out loud.
HoloEN was right to cut them off tho since that's a pretty bridge-burning thing to say and they're pretty sleazy even in their own content.

>>12142440
Bae still being the top views Council, nice

>>12142547
I'm surprised that clip didn't blow out of proportion, given how Holofans are VERY protective of their members.

>>12142592
?

>>12142611
last column

>>12142537
The thing is, who cares?
Why do you think content creators would be tribal for Holo or Niji in the first place?
Just because they mention Nijisanji in the context of vtubers doesn't mean they're shilling them either, or else they've been shilling Hololive all year.

>>12142595
Pretty sure this is the first time the clip even made the rounds. I remember someone alluding to it previously but no one posted a link

>>12142667
ah

>>12142595
He’s kinda known and admitted to being an idiot who runs his mouth.
No one is really surprised when he says something dumb.

>>12141903
I honestly don't understand their beef. They're literally seething at unearned success of women and somehow they've escaped being called misogynists? Except there's enough proof of holos grinding as a holo or their previous career to qualify them as having earned their success

>>12142595
I think the EN fandom is tamer than the JP side, probably tamed by how freaking out like Kpop fans leads to a bad reputation.
Destiny straight up shat on Hololive and their fans 100x harder than Conor's careless quote and most of the responses to it was "lol boomer mad and salty".

>>12142670
Naw reddit already chewed it up and spat it out months ago.

>>12141729
We-re all naïve at one point anon, stop being cynical

>>12142366
They played Apex on and off stream a few times with Iofi and got so much "muh pure idols with a male" backlash on 4chan and twitter that Moona cried and took a break from streaming.
Outside of Ollie, who already has a bad rep here, they haven't tried to do anything on stream since, even though they've played off stream and hung out with Mori and Kiara irl a few times.

People live too much in a bubble here to look up stuff themselves and just regurgitate the same "he's leaching off Hololive" when he clearly hates the "fans" and, at this point, probably the corporate Hololive too.

Vtuber stuff isn't his main content. Hell, his fujo fanbase would probably be just as mad if he put any "potential love interests" on the main channel.
https://www.youtube.com/c/CDawgVA/videos

About Joey i don't know enough what he thinks on this. Saw that Nene video and it looked very petty. He was trying to play it up for laughs, but still.

>>12141734
Probably because he pretty much translate whatever instead of having an oshi like Soju with Rushia or Jin with cat

>>12142789
>literally seething
Meds.
If you want actual seething, look up Destiny's rant on Hololive and Hololive fans.

>>12142537
Iirc it was 2-3 months ago during an episode of their podcast where they talk about streamers. Joey and Garnt say they've been watching less Vtubers and more Streamers in general, and Joey says he now watches more Niji because they are more like the average streamer and Garnt for VShojo. Take it as you will; although their takes there aren't as egregious as the ones in the Nene Playboy or the Connor clip

>>12142546
Spoken like a true expert of nijifags and nijisanji. This thread is too knowledgeable.

>>12142440
I miss the days when 50k new subs was considered a weak month...

>>12142879
Mori maybe, Kiara no.
Someone brought up the possibility of her collabing with them and she seemed disgusted.

>>12142948
Myth was the tide that lifted all boats

>>12142339
His editor manages this channel all on his own and they split 50/50 and he also edits for Mouse now. Stop being retarded

>>12142903
You mean methstiny?

>>12142595
a clip blew up a while back where he was bashing Hololive fans for being too protective and not considering the girls people.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jR9sNVWHUZU
re-upload

It did blow up on reddit and youtube, so it was very well received.
Only here people made a fuss about it.

>>12142903
Don’t think anyone has seen Destiny and his fans as anything but a joke for a long time.

>>12142914
Eh, sounds like some pretty normal takes? This place amplifies things and spins them into rrats...Though the Playboy vid and the old connor clip just sound like Joey and Connor being dumb idiots.

Incredible, /vt/ doesn't watch chuuba streams but somehow people in /#/ watch anitubers.

>>12142371
That requires "normies" to believe the words from /here/ in the first place

>>12142948
>50k
weak under 1m, strong above 1m

the difficulty increases as you go higher, well Gura is an exemption

>>12142879
>Vtuber stuff isn't his main content.
FUCKING KEK

He has 81 videos in his channel. 20 (a full fourth) of them involves Ironmouse.

>>12143076
That's why I said take those ones as you will. People finding out later they find enjoyment in another brand/product shouldn't be held against them. Although any mention of VShojo should raise some eyebrows given their close connection with one of the members.

>>12143021
>His editor manages this channel all on his own and they split 50/50 and he also edits for Mouse now.
How does that makes it "not leeching"?

>blame it on the editor
Go away CDawg

>>12143095
No one here watches vtuber or anituber streams man.

People just post out-of-context clips that vaguely prove their leeching narrative and then fight about it.

At least the Hima-Polka collab went well.

>>12143149
Two members, Gigguk’s gf/wife is in vshojo. There’s also mousey.

>>12143191
>At least the Hima-Polka collab went well.
OH NO NO NO NO NO
>HIMA LEECHING FROM PEKORA
THAT'S WHAT THE VOICES IN MY HEAD TOLD ME!

I don't know who any of these people are. I know they aren't numbers.

>>12143139
>Main
That's just the stream highlights channel.
But i guess you don't need to read a full sentance when you're rushing your "gotha" fuckshit.

>>12143217
>Gigguk’s gf/wife is in vshojo
Wut?

>>12143238
>I know they aren't numbers.
Here are some numbers for you
>one Oreo's shake has a third of your daily calory intake needs
It also has "trans fat", that will make you transsexual

Just letting you know

>>12143233
>Polka turns her back
>Leech couldn't hide her true intention

>>12143191
I don't understand why Hima will be sticking on.

I haven't heard a peep out of the JPs about it and her latest stream had the normal number of dislikes (30-50). Maybe people care less about this than we thought.

>>12143314
Hajime

>>12142879
holy over-exaggeration schizo, are you conner's bf mayhaps?

>>12143283
>But i guess you don't need to read a full sentance when you're rushing your "gotha" fuckshit.
That delicious salt will be put to good use.

If he is not leeching how come he is clearly leeching?
>CHECKMATE CONNORFAGS

>>12143238
Yes, i hate this non-numbers drama tribal shit

On the numbers side, Kiara had a pretty good week.
apart from the Warioware dated stream, her lowest were 6k but she was heavily overlapping.

>>12143314
How the fuck are you in /vt/ yet don't know Garnt's wife is in Vshojo

>>12143407
The power of not playing JRPGs for a week.

>>12143407
>a pretty good week.
True, and her pumpkin stream is even a solo over 10k which is AMAZING for Kiara.

>>12143186
because he produces content for both of their channels it's not leeching

>>12143407
>1 mil subs
>part of the most popular Hololive Gen
>average 6k CCV
How the fuck are these good numbers?

>>12143394
She has a long history of collabing with Holos, don't think this will do anything bad to her.

>>12143394
>her latest stream had the normal number of dislikes (30-50). Maybe people care less about this than we thought.
D...did you really think reality is tribal and it wasn't just a /vt/ thing?

>>12143407
Yes, back to numbers.
When Kiara isn't debuffing the SHIT out of herself with part (x) of a jRPG she gets decent to good numbers, not too big of a surprise.
If only she was better at jRPGs and didn't need to spend so much extra time on them.....

>>12143505
Based anon timelooping this retarded shit to get the thread back on topic

>>12143459
They're doing her a solid or something?

The most she streamed in a month was 14 hours (the same as Kuzuha last night) and in the past 3 months she has a total of 8 hours streamed.
If people call Hololive practices "nepotism" WTF is that then?

Where's the daily list?????

>>12143505
>Be in the numbers thread
>Still don't know perspective

>>12143497
Sorry anon, I can't hear you over the SLUUUUUUURRRRRRRRPPPPPPPP sound

>>12143596
disgusting numbers

>>12143459
Probably someone who doesn't know what a "Garnt" is or who is in vshojo, like me. Not all of us are drama miners. I admit I do checkout drama but only JP related vtubers.
>>12143507
People thought her comments were praising hololive too much and playing along too much. I can't believe /vt/ is being more schizo about this than 5ch.

>>12143596
>Ayame
>He Ayame
now
VShojo Ayame

>>12143596
>>12143637
There are "unofficial" Vshojo members like Snuffy who stream more with Vshojo than she does.
It's hilarious.

>>12143596
Wait until they force Cdawg and Nux to join Vshojo with Haruka Karibu in November.

The salt that will flow through /vt/ could rebalance the oceans.

>>12143655
>people
dont refer to one schizo spamming shit as plural

>>12143596
Vtubing was just a joke to her, it was pretty surprising Vshojo was desperate enough to take her in at the time.

>>12143628
His ccv seems to be recovering from the last time I've seen it

>>12143628
youtube doesn't recommend his stream to people in time. He's not a streamer anyway.
What are you gonna do next? Talk about XQC YT clip views?

>>12143677
>VShojo Ayame
SHE WISHES!

Both she and he-Ayame have their medians way over 18k.
>hers is 3k
not even a midget, Ayame had more watched hours in her past 2 streams than Vshojo-Hajime had in her whole "vtuber" career

>>12143677
her numbers arent good for even vshojo, ayame title DENIED

>>12143742
Can skitzo can lead to many.
Remember in the jp days when that 1 dude would make the same Ayame hate every day?
He got his point across for some here.

>>12143727
Unless he was replying to himself there is at least two.

>>12143596
I was so confused when this happened, because they clearly don't talk much off stream either, not even with Garnt.
Hime hasn't slowed down her other content which is the basis and only streams randomly since debut. Don't think she likes it.

>>12143926
>Hime hasn't slowed down her other content which is the basis and only streams randomly since debut. Don't think she likes it.
Isn't she the one that made that retarded
>HUR DUR, BAD CHEAP COSPLAY OF GURA AND OTHERS
video?

That surely didn't help her out with the weeb community, either the vtuber one or the cosplay one

>>12143981
Yes, she did a few vtuber cosplay videos.

Stop believing that /vt/ is "the community" though, there are at most 500 people here in a week.
Looks like it was an ok performing video and there was no twitter or reddit backlash whatsoever.

>>12143724
>Wait until they force Cdawg and Nux to join Vshojo with Haruka Karibu in November.
Will never happen unless they create VShonen

>>12143757
He was 20k at some point
>>12143757
Valkyrae is simmilar ccv to gura

>>12144410
Not even then for Nux
Vei would quit if he joined, she can't stand him

There's no real way to track SCs made during members only streams, right? I member a few holos and it's a sea of them every time. I've seen more than $4k in Miko's current stream but the SCs don't stay up long enough for me to for real. Many member's only vids aren't archived either. There is more money being made under our noses and it drives me mad.

>>12144319
To make this about numbers: this surely gotta sting
>male cosplayer making more views than female one
Only in this niche, that's for sure.

Here is my main criticism about her video
>making something beautiful and well thought takes a lot of work
>making something shitty and pretending it is for fun takes no work

It is the bane of modern "art", takes a real genius to make a beautiful sculpture, but only a retard with connections to put a cross in a toilet

>>12143724
>>12144410
I think Vshojo has some sort of rule in which you need to be a full time vtuber to join them. Maybe thats why Hime had to be created. So nux would pass, but cdawg would not, unless he created a new persona (never gonna happen)

>Don't care about the numbers. Once you start caring about it, you're gonna go crazy dayo.

>>12143628
I know it's not a major source of income but the fact Kiara has nearly a million in SC (maybe over with members) despite her otherwise "weak" numbers always shocks me. She has a core fanbase and is in a bad timeslot that is relatively protected from overlap as Hololive expands. Not a terrible model really.

>>12142592
But putting way more effort than Kronii

>>12144518
If you cared you can simply tally up the SCs you see in a stream.

>>12142879
>backlash on 4chan and twitter that Moona cried and took a break from streaming
that was ollie retard

>TOP WINNERS OF THE DAY - OCTOBER 2021

1) Korone (Hololive) - 71k - Birthday 3D
2) Ayame (Hololive) - 86k - 3D Concert
3) Hal (Indie) - 57k - CR lottery
4) Noel (Hololive) - 101k - Outfit Reveal
5) Fubuki (Hololive) - 72k - Birthday 3D
6) Pekora (Hololive) - 45k - Minecraft (ENxSubaru)
7) Subaru (Hololive) - 93k - 3rd Anniversary
8) Pekora (Hololive) - 26.2k - Mario Kart 8DX
9) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 53.4k - CR Cup Tournament
10) Luna (Hololive) - 57k - Birthday 3D
11) Pekora (Hololive) - 52k - TotsuClubhouse51
12) Subaru (Hololive) - 38k - Card Unboxing with Luna
13) Kanae (Nijisanji) - 54k - Outfit Reveal
14) Pekora (Hololive) - 36k - Minecraft
15) Naraka (Nijisanji) - 53k - 3D Debut
16) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 33k - Blazing Sails Niji Tournament
17) Pekora (Hololive) - 39.4k - Judge Eyes
18) Pekora (Hololive) - 39.5k - Summer craft championship
19) Suisei (Hololive) - 83.5k - Outfit Reveal
20) Subaru (Hololive) - 26.4k - Minecraft
21) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 63.2k - Survival Island End Stream
22) Pekora (Hololive) - 32.2k - Minecraft
23) Hal (Indie/Merise) - 45k - Merise Announcement
24) Miko (Hololive) - 65k - Sportfes Announcement
25) Miko (Hololive) - 32.7k - Minecraft (Sportfes preparation)
26) Rushia (Hololive) - 30.4k - Umamusume gacha
27) Pekora (Hololive) - 50k - Minecraft (PekoMiko)
28) Hal (Merise) - 35k - Apex Custom (Stacked Pros&Preds)

>>12144610
Too hard. I want everyone's numbers. Some of these vtubers are getting way more than we think.

>>12144604
Rrats are that Kronii is finishing up VA work for projects she started before joining Hololive, on top of mental health, hence the sparser schedules. Would certainly explain a lot.
Bae though, definitely putting in the work and it's showing.

>>12144631
>Hal: 3 wins
>Kuzuha: 2 wins
uh oh

>>12144520
>>12144410
>>12143724
Even Ironmouse posted a video about it, but they've been talking about it for months.
This is how i know you guys don't watch streams.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFfcVu8FNks

>>12144732
>you guys dont watch vtubers
>posts a clip from clippernigger channel

>>12144630
Moona might not be the one who cried after being called out by fans, but pic related was the reason why she stopped communicating with Connor ever since.

>>12144803
My mistake, i don't watch clips so i didn't know that wasn't official.
But it should be to your understanding.

>>12144831
am i supposed to know what the fuck that picture is about?

>>12144943
Moona’s biggest gachikoi got upset, she did a guerilla members only and apologized.

>>12144631
Last few days

31) Mel birthday

Is Marine's return on the 30th or 31st?

>>12144630
>he's not a member and doesn't know
the state of this board.

>>12144943
newfag.... you do not know the story of sir Alfred Ridder, who led a righteous crusade to protect his oshii from the foul darkness of anituber leeches.

>>12143407
>>12143470
>>12143542

Do you think Kiara will get better number on her JRPG streams if she just plays off-stream to understand the game and stream the juicy part later?

>>12145221
Oh my fucking god yes. If she spent any amount of time just grinding/understanding game systems off-stream it would make the streams both more tolerable and also less lengthy. I'm pretty sure she won't though, because I remember her saying she didn't want to do that (Grind off stream).

* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN *

Here it goes
>34,992: Shibuya Hal (merise)
>34,590: Mio (Hololive)
>28,623: Miko (Hololive)
>22,453: Gura (Hololive)
>22,340: Subaru (Hololive)
>20,573: Korone (Hololive)
>19,576: Pekora (Hololive)
>18,877: Gura (Hololive)
>18,769: Kanae (Nijisanji)
>17,554: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>16,727: Gatchaman (Indie)
>15,923: Rushia (Hololive)
>14,645: Flare (Hololive)
>14,068: Aqua (Hololive)
>11,882: Kanae (Nijisanji)
>11,421: Kronii (Hololive)
>11,320: Ina (Hololive)
>10,976: Kronii (Hololive)
>10,138: Fubuki (Hololive)
>10,121: Chihiro (Nijisanji)

>>12144631
There's literally just one 3D debut this month and it was a shitty one. Did niji tone it down so they could buff it later during december?

>>12145221
>>12145268
The fact she doesn't do that is silly considering that's pretty much SOP.
Pekora does, doesn't she?

>>12145321
>34,590: Mio (Hololive)
>28,623: Miko (Hololive)
>22,453: Gura (Hololive)
>22,340: Subaru (Hololive)
>20,573: Korone (Hololive)
>19,576: Pekora (Hololive)
Pretty strong day for Holos. Wait till Marine comes back.

>2 Kroniis, 2 Guras, 1 Ina
Sugoii

>>12145321
Hololive 14
Nijisanji United 6

Not that bad. I've seen worse.

>>12145360
Pekora managed to avoid doing so in FFX until the very last boss, where she did some VERY MINOR off-screen grinding to unlock dual-cast + Holy on Yuna, because she just straight up didn't have enough DPS to beat the final boss the stream before. Pekora is a professional though, so she knew she needed to balance actually being able to beat the boss vs steamrolling it, hence only minor grinding. Keeps the tension up when you just squeak by on the major bosses. Of course, Pekora also actually knows how to play jRPGs instead of dumb-bruteforcing them like Kiara tends to do, so...

>>12145360
IIRC the only game Pegor did that was Final Fantasy X, but it was a short grind anyway just to gather enough materia and exp to prepare for the Jecht fight.

Nina passed Millie in subs (from socialblade)

>>12145473
Kinda wished she unlocked Anima first and completed all the aeons before facing Jecht.

>>12144676
I'm fully aware of that, sometimes my oshi gets more akas in member streams than regular streams, but I'm too lazy to reveal it plus I'm only membered to men anyways

>>12144508
Wait, Vei is based?

>>12145321
>34,992: Shibuya Hal (merise)
>34,590: Mio (Hololive)

Damn, if only the collab was stream on Ayame channel ...

>>12145542
>laughs in OmegaAlpha

Which is better, a short edited video of the product that you're shilling that could get video up to 1+ million views after a week or an hour long shilling stream. Which one would be worth more if you're a sponsor?

>>12145715
Hour long, easy peasy.

>>12145714
That's a lot of sub for a dead channel

>>12145769
Aloe

>>12145351
Considering they're made the Kaida, Amemori and Kyoko 3D models to use in events, they clearly had models prepared and could have sped through some of the older guard to get their 3D debuts on stream too.

>>12145321
6 20K+ streams and Pekora didn't make it there, pretty rare.

>Ina again alone in her slot
Another 11k+?

>>12146037
Probably, she won't even have much competition.

>>12146037
When did Ina become a regular 10K+ on non drawing streams? She's like Subaru, sort of snuck up on people

>>12146203
She has always been like that. As long as she doesn't play "debuff" games (basically anything that western people don't particularly care about), she will go above 10k.

>>12146037
Mmm, I say 10k probably, 11k maybe.

>>12146365
Both Korone and Kiara finished streaming.

>>12145321
I saw holostat catching Gura's ccv at 24,075

>>12144831
>implying she's still not getting her throat fucked by him off-stream

>>12146422
if it doesn't change the position it doesn't get changed. Sometimes even when it changes, if it is down enough it is more hassle than worth

Honestly, most of the threads in the catalog are some of the topics spoken here and the same pics are even used too.

>>12145041
the one who took a break after was ollie. all moon did was the unnecessary apologize and move on.

>>12146500
This place used to be a containment zone, but some people got pissy at the troll op images and left to make their own numbers bait thread.

I don't remember for what occasion but, we had 6 other topic numbers thread going on one day.

>>12146573
The holodex images almost guarantee a bait thread.

>>12144831
>>12144961
>>12145097

Ain't that the creep Menhera gachikoi who keep DM-ing the Roommate because he's trying to protect his Fantasy,
and getting jumped by everyone on twitter, then he stopped being her Gachikoi and delete his twitter account?

>>12146625
why do you thing he's a 4chan hero?

>>12146679
Ah, i get it... Damn I'm slow

>>12145542
Huh? They still haven't gotten to 100k yet? Does anyone have date when Lazulight and Obsydia crossed 100k cause their subgrowth feels slower than usual.

>>12146721
See anon, you just weren't thinking stupid enough.

>>12142169
The only reason hes saying that is because most Holomems ignore him and other e-celebs on Twitter & elsewhere. Many other smaller vTubers are more willing to give him the attention he feels entitled to.

>>12145321
>>12146006
Rare day for Kanae to beat Kuzuha too. That usually never happens when both stream on the same day.

>>12146743
Slower than Petra for sure, I think it took her less than a week.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNIhngowViI
50k to go

* Niji streams right now *

>>12148084
So Gwelu is going to have over 300.000 extra hours streamed this month because of that 1 meme stream?

>>12148283
top watched hours of the month as well

>>12148302
Top hours streamed, you surely mean. 7224 hours streamed.

At an exaggerated 200 CCV average for the whole period would make 1444800 hours watched, not enough for #1

>>12148283
44 * 24 * 30 = 31,680 watched hours

>numbers thread in charge of mental maths

>>12148534
Damn, I'm slippin bad.

>>12148612
My own screenshot even...

>>12145542
Nina is the most interesting out of wave three and she also streams a crazy amount. Millie just had design buff and was overhyped by other flips when in reality she's just a pedestrian ESL streamer that's decent at singing but not really too much else.

>>12148744
Is Millie still doing tagalog streams? if not, i guess it will leave the flips disappointed and eventually leave her.

how much did ina get last RE stream?

>>12149405
11320

>>12149405
11k
this is the second part so is gonna be less since most people already saw the game. probably 8k

>>12149484
It's funny I always thought that Ina grew to 10K+ but she pretty much always got that after New Years, she just plays absolute debuff games constantly. Sometimes I wish the girls would just hardcore numberfag for a while, just to show they can, but I suppose that's part of their appeal. Mori, Kiara, and Ame all love to play debuff games, and Gura until recently had poor scheduling

>>12149707
She is the Watame or Lulu of her gen.
They all were very consistent in numbers while streaming at their main time frame.

>>12149484
unless it is the doll part

>>12146203
>When did Ina become a regular 10K+ on non drawing streams? She's like Subaru, sort of snuck up on people
Not really, she always got at very least 10k for the most part
>pic related, every single stream of Ina tracked by Holostats, highlighted are the ones over 10k

The only times she fails are
>multiPOV collabs
>debuff games
>Matsuri

>>12150478
btw, I just cooked a way to make this type of visualisation almost effortless

Here is all Pekora streams, with Minecraft in yellow and ARK in purple.
>THAT ARK SPAM
It ALMOST killed Hololive. It may have killed Aki and Choco growth for good, with Choco only inclining out of it with ASMR

>>12151182
In this image it is visible that Pekora doesn't lean on Minecraft as often as people would think

>>12145452
Why do you guys keep including indies and other companies with Nijisanji's score?
Accep reality, its:
Hololive: 14
Nijisanji: 4
Indies: 1
Merise: 1

>>12151282
because you're responding to an obvious shitposter.

>>12151182
It's impressive that only 2 times this whole year she's had back to back Minecraft streams, and one was the Usaken summer fest.
also

>I just cooked a way to make this type of visualisation almost effortless
Tell me more

>>12151182
Peko and Marine are the bastions of number consistency. You can almost pencil them for a sure 20k everytime. The fact that they both came from the same Gen that also happens to have an SC Queen like Rushia just cements HoloFantasy's status as Hololive's golden generation.

>>12151182
>THAT ARK SPAM. It ALMOST killed Hololive.
Calm your tits anon, at the time the Ark numbers were really good for Hololive and it's one of the strong eras of the UNITY growth.

It had its good ~2 months, but yes, seeing Choco and Flare play Ark 6-7 times a week in June was overkill.

>>12151182
Here is ARK Rosenthal incinerating her vtubing career in a simple trick
>numberfags will hate this!

Here is a simple thing
>anything you can see from the thumbnail in this resolution is likely a problem
That purple blob, damn!

>>12151553
See >>12151592, it nearly killed Aki

>>12151466
Flare and Noel are also no slouch, they're getting good SCs
Sasuga strongest gen

>>12149815
9K before doll, the possibility is high

May someone explain why Ark spam almost killed Hololive? I remember it's the game Coco introduced and created many collabs. For me Ark it's just a boring game to watch for streaming.

>>12151613
anon... this narrative doesn't work on Aki since you can clearly see in the image that those are her best performing videos that week outside of events.
She was the only one still getting an Ark buff well into summer 2020.
Hell, even this year, apart from the very latest she's getting 4k for Ark streams regularly, when the normal zatsu/gameplay streams around it are ~2k.

>>12151730
Like >>12151553 and >>12151738 said, it’s likely an hyperbole by the anon that said it.
Holos played a little, got bored and moved on

>>12151730
It indeed was extremely strong in the first 1-3 months.
The HoloARK even tripled the game's active users on steam in that period.

I can imagine playing Ark after everyone left would only be a novelty, but i don't see anon's problem overall with it either.

>>12142879
what nene video?

>>12151852
Walk one thread back, it’s there with context

The RE8 "baby" incline.

https://youtu.be/qNIhngowViI
The name of the song is "KING (vrtix Remix)"
And the owner is "Magic Music Record"
How did it happen?

* current NijiEN streams *

>>12151944
>Germans!
Anyway, what happened about 1h 5 min in for that dip?

>>12152094
>Artist: Kanaria,Gawr Gura,Calliope Mori
Interesting, they might have some copyright ownership for this remix version if people want to cover it.

Reine doesn't have this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfI8sxSFtuE
So it might be because of the extra lyrics.

>>12152094
>"Magic Music Record"
I bet these guys put it on contentID on their version
https://youtu.be/T0ZSN9nl7TY
(Awful mix btw)
and code that pajeet coders touched made the mistake

>>12152309
oh sheeet.

>>12152103
It really is turning into Selen and the 9 dwarves.

>>12151944
Passed 10k right as Fauna's starting stream

>He-Ayame is hurting his median to help his mates to secure a place in tomorrow’s top
What a nice bloke!

>>12152522
Lol did they put it on Spotify and monetize it?

HOLY FUCK, is Finana shadowbanned or something?
Dropped on to check if she was reading superchat but no, smack in the middle of the gameplay.