/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

ccv + sc
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://overseas.live-ranking.com/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/total-ranking/youtube
>https://www.dousetu.com/daily_ranking/
>http://v-ana.com/
>https://playboard.co/en/

Hololive
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://twitter.com/holo_data
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://mipacd.github.io/chat-stats/excl-chat.html
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html

Nijisanji
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings

>>12041013
>>12041085
>>12041212
>>12041237

Still catching up on the exacts but sounds like she is heavily scaling back roommate activities

- Erotica is out
- Streams cut back 50%
- Other content not on a set schedule

Definitely looks like she is gradually shifting gears and making Hololive her main endeavor, 2ch right now is in meltdown.

>>12042130
NND considers ear licking content as too sexually explicit now.

>TOP WINNERS OF THE DAY - OCTOBER 2021

1) Korone (Hololive) - 71k - Birthday 3D
2) Ayame (Hololive) - 86k - 3D Concert
3) Hal (Indie) - 57k - CR lottery
4) Noel (Hololive) - 101k - Outfit Reveal
5) Fubuki (Hololive) - 72k - Birthday 3D
6) Pekora (Hololive) - 45k - Minecraft (ENxSubaru)
7) Subaru (Hololive) - 93k - 3rd Anniversary
8) Pekora (Hololive) - 26.2k - Mario Kart 8DX
9) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 53.4k - CR Cup Tournament
10) Luna (Hololive) - 57k - Birthday 3D
11) Pekora (Hololive) - 52k - TotsuClubhouse51
12) Subaru (Hololive) - 38k - Card Unboxing with Luna
13) Kanae (Nijisanji) - 54k - Outfit Reveal
14) Pekora (Hololive) - 36k - Minecraft
15) Naraka (Nijisanji) - 53k - 3D Debut
16) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 33k - Blazing Sails Niji Tournament
17) Pekora (Hololive) - 39.4k - Judge Eyes
18) Pekora (Hololive) - 39.5k - Summer craft championship
19) Suisei (Hololive) - 83.5k - Outfit Reveal
20) Subaru (Hololive) - 26.4k - Minecraft
21) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 63.2k - Survival Island End Stream
22) Pekora (Hololive) - 32.2k - Minecraft
23) Hal (Indie/Merise) - 45k - Merise Announcement
24) Miko (Hololive) - 65k - Sportfes Announcement
25) Miko (Hololive) - 32.7k - Minecraft (Sportfes preparation)
26) Rushia (Hololive) - 30.4k - Umamusume gacha

>>12042130
>2ch right now is in meltdown(!!!!!)
>because of Mel
what is it with faggots and overexaggerating everything

>>12042229
Ah.
Yea that would be an issue for an ASMR streamer wouldn't it.
Okay, someone asked are we overestimating Ai's reach? I don't think so. Her contributions are more cultural and normie reach than as a streamer, because that wasnt really the meta back then. Nowadays things are bigger, but they're also more spread out so no one chubba reigns supreme in all categories.

>>12042130
If someone is curious, you can read the letter on /t/

>>12042130
>2ch right now is in meltdown.
wtf why?

>>12042292
>26) Rushia
new contender for that Christmas Collab

>23) Hal (Indie/Merise) - 45k - Merise Announcement
>24) Miko (Hololive) - 65k - Sportfes Announcement
>25) Miko (Hololive) - 32.7k - Minecraft (Sportfes preparation)
>26) Rushia (Hololive) - 30.4k - Umamusume gacha
How mad is kuzuhafag rn?

>>12042356
Ai is still riding off her success from her peak. Combine that with a management that has a ton of industry contacts means it’s the main thing keeping her relevant today.

>>12042229
PH is always an option

The christmas collab will be PekoMoon singing collab/karaoke session with 75k.
For both are a buff category and makes it the first on its field, which also adds the one year anniversary of the first time they talked on voicechat so is happening. 34p can't stop losing.

>>12042556
>PekoMoon
Moonfag...your ship is already dead...

>>12042130
>2ch right now is in meltdown.
Any threads anon? Sounds like a hilarious read.

>>12042389
Would be great, but i feel they don't have enough jokes together to keep the whole stream going.

Other possibilities:
>PekoMarine
most likely, could also be with multiple Gen3 members
>RabbitDoog
or some name like that for Korone - Pekora
>PekoSuba
2nd highest ccv potential - highest skit potential
>PekoTowa
have great chemistry but not the highest ccv. Botan could be a guest for a segment.

>>12042463
He's been king of 2nd place all this time.
We were too blinded by the times he got 1st to notice it.

>>12042602
yes, just like other's ship. but, making rrat here and there is not gonna hurt right?

For those who missed last thread

>>12033939
>>12038905
>>12039439
>>12039838

Will repost the top 50 here, the format is:
>median_peak :: company :: author :: gen :: num_streams
and the period, from July 17 2021 to October 25 2021 (which is the range Mado tracks Nijisanji).

>1) 32214 :: hololive :: Houshou Marine :: jp :: 32
>2) 31251 :: nijisanji :: Nijisanji :: jp :: 39
>3) 29064 :: hololive :: Usada Pekora :: jp :: 118
>4) 27633 :: nijisanji :: Kuzuha :: jp :: 98
>5) 23901 :: hololive :: Nakiri Ayame :: jp :: 11
>6) 23221 :: nijisanji :: Kenmochi Toya :: jp :: 19
>7) 20673 :: hololive :: Gawr Gura :: en :: 56
>8) 20243 :: hololive :: Sakura Miko :: jp :: 115
>9) 19165 :: hololive :: Hololive :: corp0 :: 15
>10) 17496 :: hololive :: Oozora Subaru :: jp :: 85
-- Top 10
>11) 17051 :: hololive :: Minato Aqua :: jp :: 35
>12) 15807 :: hololive :: Uruha Rushia :: jp :: 65
>13) 14331 :: hololive :: Murasaki Shion :: jp :: 25
>14) 13985 :: hololive :: Hoshimachi Suisei :: jp :: 41
>15) 13829 :: hololive :: Ouro Kuronii :: en :: 36
>16) 13241 :: hololive :: Inugami Korone :: jp :: 71
>17) 12656 :: hololive :: Amane Kanata :: jp :: 92
>18) 11783 :: nijisanji :: Tsukino Mito :: jp :: 36
>19) 11670 :: hololive :: Ninomae Inanis :: en :: 70
>20) 11590 :: hololive :: Shishiro Botan :: jp :: 86
>21) 11332 :: hololive :: Akai Haato :: jp :: 60
>22) 11304 :: nijisanji :: Kanae :: jp :: 130
>23) 11188 :: nijisanji :: Ange Katrina :: jp :: 32
>24) 11064 :: nijisanji :: Lize Helesta :: jp :: 40
>25) 10738 :: hololive :: Nanashi Mumei :: en :: 37
-- Top 25
>26) 10723 :: nijisanji :: Fuwa Minato :: jp :: 113
>27) 10696 :: hololive :: Ookami Mio :: jp :: 63
>28) 10114 :: nijisanji :: Ibrahim :: jp :: 94
>29) 9571 :: hololive :: Ceres Fauna :: en :: 46
>30) 9094 :: hololive :: Shirogane Noel :: jp :: 64
>31) 9065 :: hololive :: Shiranui Flare :: jp :: 96
>32) 8649 :: hololive :: Watson Amelia :: en :: 83
>33) 8614 :: hololive :: IRyS :: ensingers :: 71
>34) 8571 :: hololive :: Nekomata Okayu :: jp :: 71
>35) 8385 :: hololive :: Hakos Baelz :: en :: 54
>36) 8162 :: hololive :: Tsunomaki Watame :: jp :: 90
>37) 8089 :: hololive :: Yukihana Lamy :: jp :: 98
>38) 7960 :: nijisanji :: Yashiro Kizuku :: jp :: 67
>39) 7930 :: hololive :: Mori Calliope :: en :: 71
>40) 7921 :: hololive :: Momosuzu Nene :: jp :: 67
>41) 7861 :: hololive :: Shirakami Fubuki :: jp :: 139
>42) 7846 :: nijisanji :: Kagami Hayato :: jp :: 61
>43) 7726 :: nijisanji :: Inui Toko :: jp :: 25
>44) 6768 :: hololive :: Omaru Polka :: jp :: 82
>45) 6711 :: nijisanji :: Yuuki Chihiro :: jp :: 113
>46) 6455 :: nijisanji :: Sasaki Saku :: jp :: 38
>47) 6370 :: hololive :: Takanashi Kiara :: en :: 85
>48) 6140 :: nijisanji :: Mayuzumi Kai :: jp :: 48
>49) 6082 :: nijisanji :: Leos Vincent :: jp :: 97
>50) 6051 :: hololive :: Tokoyami Towa :: jp :: 103

>>12042890
>Senchou...

>>12042890
One thing that was left uncommented
>5) 23901 :: hololive :: Nakiri Ayame :: jp :: 11
>6) 23221 :: nijisanji :: Kenmochi Toya :: jp :: 19

Sasuga he and she-Ayame!

I thought Luna might get a decent buff from doing a cooking stream, but she's barely getting into the range of her usual late night gaming streams. Turns out she doesn't have a camera on.

>>12042890
This is why I hate that pirate

>>12042933
>Stream less
>Only comes back when there is something big happening
>Pulls good numbers
How is this allowed?

>>12042890
>The only one above 30k
Dusty Womb...

>>12043164
Speaking of, Toya streaming right now, over 18k.
At least for him we know he's been very busy with the idol unit he's in.

>Cauncil getting their first gigs
Thank God, freenig Myth to finally get some numbers

>>12043936
Also
>CrunchyHime collab when?

>>12043988
I can taste the seething already...

>>12043988
If it happens before any NijiEN collab , the entirety of the board will be 100% bait , seething and tribalism.

* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN *

Here it goes
>30,386: Rushia (Hololive)
>28,273: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>25,856: Pekora (Hololive)
>24,753: Miko (Hololive)
>17,984: Miko (Hololive)
>17,240: Patra (774 Inc.)
>15,606: Subaru (Hololive)
>13,924: Kanata (Hololive)
>13,577: Mel (Hololive)
>12,783: Suisei (Hololive)
>12,475: Kanae (Nijisanji)
>11,482: Tamaki (NoriPro)
>11,344: Fubuki (Hololive)
>11,335: Amelia (Hololive)
>11,187: Botan (Hololive)
>10,643: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>10,409: Lauren (Nijisanji)

>>12043936
NijiEN doko

Oh yeah, all this con arc reminds me of comiket. What happened to it? Isn't it the biggest anime convention in the world? Hololive/Nijisanji must've jumped on it, right?

>>12044350
>10,643: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>10,409: Lauren (Nijisanji)
Valo Kuzuha & Red Kuzuha sugoii

WELL ANONS?
>PREDICTIONS?

>>12044350
>Lauren made the list
Is this his best ccv since his debut month?
Don't remember him hosting any collabs on his channel to get similar views.

>>12044368
>Isn't it the biggest anime convention in the world?
It is but mostly because of doujin. Comercial ventures are present but it is not the main draw of the convention

>>12044480
80k

>>12044426
This is getting out of hand
>OG Kuzuha
>Valo Kuzuha
>Red Kuzuha
>EN-she-Kuzuha
Is Nijisanji leaning too much on Kuzuha-tachi?

>>12044368
It's going to be happening this year on the 30th/31st.
Imagine the amount of pent up doujinlust that's going to be unleashed, it's been ages since comiket 97. Gonna be interesting to see what gets thrown up on Sadpanda the month of January, usually a good gauge of what's popular as people rush to upload.

>>12044480
I predict she'll still sound a bit hoarse, but she's trying to speed up her return before the Minecraft sports fest and that she's bored not streaming.

>>12042463
>kuzuhafag

>>12044480
50k I would say

>>12044603
Samefagging for a sec, 30/31st of December*

>>12044368
What’s funny is the con arc was started by Kiara and KFP

Falseflag or not, this will never cease to be funny: >>12034710

>>12044480
something goes wrong

>>12042933
How can he be called he-ayame if he streamed almost two times more in those ~100 days?

>>12044350
>rushia winning with horse pussy
>patra asmr mogging
>motherfucking MEL on the charts
>ame's back
>not a single niji girl made it

>>12044718
>con arc was started by Kiara
Only for EN. Not only Hololive was present on Comiket but Miko even sneaked into it in person disregarding management orders for her to keep away
>because her voice is easily recognizable, it seems
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PL743z4o1Oc

>>12044845
The one thing I don't get
>HOW THE FUCK LAUREN IS A BOY'S NAME?

Is it supposed to be french, like Ralph Lauren?

>>12044480
The return buff was really diminished by how many there were this year.
Shion, Lulu, Shiba, Aki and Mel didn't have it much or at all.
Only Ayame during the summer and Haachama really had it, and for Chammers it was more because people were gathering thinking it could be a graduation announcement, then dispersed.

But if anyone where to have it, definitely Marine.
75k if people clear the slot and come to her chat.

>>12044845
Nijigirls are on Tamaki's channel

>>12044911
https://www.verywellfamily.com/lauren-name-meaning-origin-popularity-5191027

>>12044911
It's one of those that more recently become popular as a female name
>Origin: Lauren has been traced to Latin and >French origins.
>Gender: The name Lauren started as a traditionally masculine name, but has since grown to become a popular unisex name.
>Pronunciation: law-ren

https://www.verywellfamily.com/lauren-name-meaning-origin-popularity-5191027

>>12044480
40-50k, since i dont see no guests

>>12044966
They were somehow splitting since there were 3-4 different streams for that collab.
Do you know wtf they were doing?
Tried to watch it but looked like they were either watching videos or watching each other in delay.

>>12044480
70k+ or I subscribe to Kuzuha.

Speaking of returns, it's been 4 months

>Who?
Amemori Sayo from Nijisanji

>>12045150
No idea. I've pretty much stopped watching her streams since it's the same thing over and over.

>>12045504
She's performing at NijiRock event in several days after all.

>>12045504
As to why she decided to hold her "return" stream at 1:30 AM?
I don't know.
It's only her 6th stream all year.
At least she had 14 videos in 2020.
https://playboard.co/en/channel/UCRWOdwLRsenx2jLaiCAIU4A/videos

>First on twitter now on stream
>Numberbegging
Dare I say based in the # thread?

Who's the strongest not-company indie number wise?

>>12045754
>image size
anon... your pizel reps.

>>12045769
Hal won 2 days, but in the 2nd he was announcing that he's making a company, soooooo....

>>12045769
Is Pmaru an indie?

>First on twitter now on stream
>Numberbegging
Dare I say based in the # thread?

>>12045925
Numberfagging is only fun when everyone is making bank. At that level it seems like an invitation for drama

>>12045769
>not-company indie
Hal

>>12045888
>but in the 2nd he was announcing that he's making a company
I'm waiting to see if it's a company or if it will end up becoming another "agency" (but not)

>>12045925
Sad!

>>12045925
>midget numberfagging

>>12045635
Interestingly, again, Amemori and Kyoko just like Kaida haven't had 3D debuts yet, but their models are ready for the event.

Don't know if there will be a free portion to chart for that day, so we can only guess that it will do well numbers wise, like usual.

>>12045769
Hal is corpo, Shigure is inactive, Pmaru is inactive, that makes NIMU the biggest vtuber indie

>>12046012
>>12046072
Honestly I can see Nina banking on people joining in on the "fun" competition and boosting both of them to 100k as part of the race. Will their audiences see it as such? Prob not

>>12046091
>Hal is corpo
No he's not
>not yet

>>12046164
he's always been corpo with a big staff behind him, hes just making it official now

>>12045769
unironically nimu spacecat. if you still consider her as a "traditional vtuber" ofc.

>>12046202
>he's always been corpo with a big staff behind him
Being a self employed professional that hires a lawyer, an accountant does not makes one "corpo".
I'll go further: any person that works for himself and do not have a good lawyer dealing with his contracts and a good accountant minimizing his tax exposures is a big fool and is being taken advantage by Uncle Sam / Ojisan Tanaka and by his clients

I tried to DM a lot of vtuber animators and begged them to do one for Nijisanji, but it seems they just want to do Holo instead. I also convinced them with money but they just refused. I'm just a little miffed that Hololive has so many viral animation yet Niji has none. Is there any way to change the status quo?

>>12046161
They only debut like 2 weeks ago, they have almost the exact same audience still... granted, they are the type of audience to take a joke too far, but if they reach 100k in less than a week with this, there won't be time for that.

>>12046316
>Is there any way to change the status quo?
There are three

1) Join Hololive
2) Learn to draw and animate
3) Be Selen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7Bfn6QWGMo

>>12046091
>la monstrosidad
pic related downgrade, I hope she dies
>>12046300
ill never get why this anon keeps sucking on jewish corpo dick

>>12046316
Animation is incredibly expensive because it is boring, tedious, repetitive work that still requires quite a bit of artistic talent. 2snacks, Dudul, the Myth ED animator etc are making passion projects. You literally can't buy that. The problem is the people with the ability to make one can use that time much more productively on other work or their oshis.

>>12046449
Anon, you surely aren't implying that hiring a lawyer and an accountant as an independent contractor makes you a "corporation".
Is English even your first language? Corporation has a specific meaning and it is not
>anyone I don't like

>>12043936
Didn't they kinda land a big one there?

>>12046443
That reminds me, does Nijisanji even let people use their official models like Hololive?

>>12044350
10-6

Not a banner day but not embarrassing.

PUBG pulling some good late night numbers

>>12046091
>>12046449
Why are her arts so cute while her 3D model is ugly as fuck?

>>12046575
She went to Nyanners 3D guy.
Basically scraps any resemblance to the original design in favor of facial animations.

>>12046515
AFAIK they don't have officially released MMD models like Hololive, but as far as you abide by these guidelines
https://event.nijisanji.app/guidelines/
I don't think there would be a problem.

>>12046569
>king still wants to win tonight so he switched to among us
How desperate is he now?

>>12046575
Because she had a cute 2D model before
but jumped on the 3D bandwagon with the same artists that made Snuffy's model and has just been copy-pasting it on 10 other vtubers.

>>12046688
disgusting

>>12046485
he literally keeps all his staff from his days of upd8, anon.

>>12046688
The tech is good but the models keep getting weaker.
Anything below the head is basically identical, regardless of the original's proportions.

>>12046575
she fell for the vshojo retarded giant-head-baby meme models

https://youtu.be/h58GDofFy_8
TTRPG will be on Gura's channel after all. Can it get 20K? Last episode got 11.9K on Ame's channel.

>>12046688
I hate the ArtGun 3d models, what a terrible trend. They look so bad, I don't care if they have 6DOF tongue tracking or whatever

https://youtu.be/gn_jf1bVnkQ
At least 13k

>>12046869
>TTRPG
No one wants to watch this shit anymore
15k the most
Above that I will eat shit

>>12046688
>>12046449
kek

>>12046933
This will be the ultimate test for Matsuri

>>12046933
Sure, not even Matsuri's debuff is enough to repel the gacha addicts.

>>12046869
>Mori's failure project...

>>12046933
Don't know about that. I'm betting bellow $20k.

>>12046973
Eat it and record it as well yeah baby

>>12046491
It's not anon. It's some third rate con attended by just 500 people

>>12042292
>4) Noel (Hololive) - 101k - Outfit Reveal
>19) Suisei (Hololive) - 83.5k - Outfit Reveal
hmmm

>>12044862
Along with her big numbers this is why she is Elite. Based Miko!

>>12047184
The giant milkers are too powerful.

>>12046316
You have to get animators to become Nijisanji fans and be willing to spend weeks animating something that will get little views.

>>12047054
The point of TTRPG was 1) gen Unity 2) let Mori play WoD TTRPG in Japan because even more so than the rest of the world, no one even knows wtf Wod even is in Japan. No one sane does a long, multi part TTRPG series with Hunter: the Vigil if they want numbers. I literally can't think of much else that would be more filtering. It's actually my favorite content though mostly due to the threads.

NijiEN doesn't really get invited to any cons huh? At least invite Selen, it's not like she's that unknown.

>>12044603
Can't wait to numberfag how many doujins I jerk off to till I shoot blanks

https://twitter.com/ino_tac/status/1452605874044686339
might be a mori song collab

>>12044603
Maybe there will finally be a flood of vtuber doujins.

>>12047358
iirc lazulight got into a con that holoEN attended too
i think it was one of the early ones

>>12047459
They got invited to AnimeExpo and some other one I forgot the name of.

>>12047416
How did you assume it was a Mori Collab song?

>>12047184
Coomers vs. normal people.

This guy seems to have made the same "mistake" Dudul did in that he has two versions and the full MV plays on Twitter which splits views like crazy. But this one is going to be popular for sure. Hand drawn illustrated work like would probably be $20-30K given the length, quality of illustration (high), frame rate (low).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-s-7MggLHw

>>12047358
the way it works is that Fans ask the con and if enough interest is shown then they invite them

>>12047685
She recently said she's releasing 2 new songs and she liked that tweet. If she doesn't mention it at the end of the TTRPG tho it's probably not hers.

>>12044845
Imagine me just woke up to this ...
Oct is truly spooky month

>>12044911
The same way Kamile is a men's name, anon

>>12047949
Easy peasy 30k

>>12047416
Mori said that her collab song will be with a Holo member

>>12046933
I hope it flops so she can assure herself that apex is a no go.

>>12047179
How could they afford HoloEN? Is this just so Council can get some reps?

>>12049316
The fact a fan made this for free is insane, it but it must have been many, many hours of works. Myth really engenders affection in a way the various NijiEN gens or Edengumi don't quite seem to. Cover just gets so much free art and advertising, if the girls are smart they'll react to it on stream and start the clipper feedback cycle all over again.

>>12050161
Gura retweeted it is a good start.

>>12043936
isn't it a bit soon to be doing con gigs? They's only been around for a few months.

>>12050568
Their schedule is clearly more relaxed and it most definitely won't be in person, but remote (they aren't ferrying the aussies all across the ocean for that)

>>12050161
Kiara and Mori hires their fan artists for projects as well.

>>12050161
it is definitely VERY high quality, i'm gonna share it around, it deserves recognition.

>>12046078
Really disproves the stuff people say about Niji letting their underperformers flop when this event has arguably the absolute tiniest midget numberwise in all of Nijisanji JP in Todoroki Kyoko

Interesting. The MythED is stuck at 8099 views for a while now. Even tiny videos like this get throttled.

>>12051472
>Todoroki Kyoko
Let's check at >>12039439

>166) 434 :: hololive :: Rikka :: stars :: 64
>169) 347 :: nijisanji :: Todoroki Kyoko :: jp :: 31

You are right, one of the few NijiJP that has a lower median peak CCV than the smallest of the Holostars.

Maybe the question just moves one notch tho: why did he get his and some of his peers above him didn't?

>>12051621
>Even tiny videos like this get throttled.
It's a long standing bug, even before the recent shenanigans.

It used to get frozen on some arbitrary number
>301 views

Of course it happens since forever because
>pajeet hands typed this code

>>12047949
Most holo animators share full ver on twitter. 2snacks, kanaru etc. Having a short clip with "watch the rest on youtube" will have worse twitter shareability.
If anything dudul should start adding his yt link to main tweet

>>12047949
This, Dudul and 2manysnacks animations are fucking insane. Seeing >pic related on that final frame was absolute kino. I know a lot of anons consider HoloFantasy as the golden generation of Hololive but HoloMyth has got to be insanely close to them in standing. At the risk of people calling me a tribalfag, I laugh at any falseflagger even remotely comparing VShoujo to Holomyth. PinkCat and her friends have never been able to drawout this level of dedication to any of their simps.

>>12051979
Fan made a Reflect MV because Gura's own version is still on the work. And I remember someone uploaded a high quality animation about Myth members fighting a berserk Ina.

>>12051979
Well as subjective as that may be, from a strict numbers perspective Vshojos market cap so to speak seems much lower than HoloEN. Maybe its an artifact of how Twitch counts views but collabs/events within Vshojo don't seem to hit the numbers you would expect

>>12051910
Artists seem to heavily favour Twitter, it's become the defacto artist social media somehow, despite it's absolutely ass searchability.
>>12052091
https://twitter.com/mazumaro/status/1452984037727825936
This shitpost by that animator has 12K likes and he's already been noticed by Cover

Here is something very interesting: YuujinA (AChan) not only IS a vtuber but she is a mid tier vtuber with very high stats

>Mean Average of Peaks: 15,467
>Median Average of Peaks: 7,191

These numbers would put her on the top 50 right between Toko and Polka.
This is crazy

>>12043936
Saw someone in the archive say that AnimeNYC is a small con (~300 people).
AnimeNYC had 36k people go in 2019

>The Emperor and he-Ayame staking their claims

>>12052213
She is doing this in the official channel and only one time per month

Can anyone explain why someone with median less than 15k is called as emperor by these retards ?

>>12052588
Doesn’t make her any less of a vtuber and once a month give or take isn’t the same frequency as Shigure?

>>12052726
She's a VTuber but she can't be compared with someone who gets a similar median CCV while streaming almost everyday

>>12051736
>she
and honestly, it might be the SEX design again.

>>12052687
theyre not very bright

>>12052687
Because if they get it multiple times per week, it puts them in the top 30-40 streamers in the world.

>>12053079
Pfffft. Mio has a higher median than the Emperor nobody is giving her a title. The only reason we even notice is because he's a male. It's like giving a trophy to loser of the WNBA semifinals.

>>12053436
Meant to say Mio is top 30-40 worldwide

>>12053436
So the "Emperor" as these retards call him is not even in the top 20 median among all vtubers ?

>>12044480
80k+ hopefully. Its competing with nijirock so win not guaranteed.

>>12054047
They are going to broadcast a free part of the show like suisei's sololive right ?

i still find hilarious that nina is on her way to surprass millie on subs and ccv

13k for a ttrpg stream is pretty good right?

>>12057870
for the 5th episode of the ttrpg yes, it's better than the last episode (11.9K)
for a Gura stream in general tho, it's basically a super debuff game

>>12057870
2-3k higher than the last one (on Ame? channel). Not much of a buff considering Gura usually doubles or triples Ame's average viewers. Most of the Gura-only casuals are being filtered because they haven't followed the whole series and it's the 10k diehard fans of the TTRPG series and a few thousands stragglers on Gura's end. Also helps that Council mostly died off and isn't streaming against it like last time.

>>12044279
>bait
>seething
>tribalism
I can't wait.

>>12058151
The official WoD channel on Twitch has another Vampire campaign that gets 1000-1500 peak ccv. So accounting for YouTube Mythbreakers is the most popular WoD stream by a factor of like 10. I had to use Vampire because as far as I can tell no one has literally ever streamed a Hunter: the Vigil campaign.

>>12057998
The channel doesn't matter much, only viewers who are up to date with the story will be watching

So this is what a good series looks like for numbers?

Mind you, she was already a 56k$ superchat earner (in 3 years) as a sub 100 viewer streamer, but went to 400 viewers peak, 2k more subs and 4k$ extra with this series.

>>12060306
I can't believe there were shitposters here saying Pekora was faking her falls in Jump King to pad out time when this girl literally did 13 12-hour Jump King streams.

>kuzuha playing minecraft with ecelebs
are ecelebs boring or what is up with those numbers?

>>12061279
>king less than 10k

Disgusting, get this pretender out of my sight.

>>12061279
It's hardcore minecraft at 6am to 8am JST.
He also had to close the last stream since it was close to exceeding 12 hours so this is a new frame.
What numbers were you expecting?

>>12061279
>Apex man not play Apex

>>12061425
12-15k is his usual EVEN at this time without playing apex
is the first time i see minecraft being a debuff specially with the collab partenrs he has right now

>>12060306
who dis

>>12061569
>>12061425
nah youtube is buffering in some places
you can see kroni going from almost 7k to 3k

>>12061569
It has been 13 hours and just an hour ago, he had 15k on his old frame.
If he keeps streaming, he'll get his 12k when people wake up.

>is the first time i see minecraft being a debuff
Look at Leo's Hardcore minecraft numbers, they were awful.

>>12061896
his first MC hardcore was fine.

>>12060306
missed the name in the screenshot
勇凪エレナ / Elena Yunagi

>Kuzuha-san, please onegai, play some minecraft. Think about the numbers. If they can do it, you can do it too!

>>12060772
Comparing with Kanae who was treating his jump king as a pre birthday zatsudan for half of it. He took about 20 hours and did it all in one stream.

Pekora taking 27 hours seems about right for someone with Pekora's skill level and investment.

>>12061425
I think Ina guerilla middle of the night Minecraft stream numbers would be reasonable. So 18k or so?

Youtube is not friendly at this moment huh

>>12062488
18k for Ina? That wouldn't happen unless there was a bunch of people on the server doing shenanigans and she was one of the only POVs. Normal Ina MC is like 13k.

>>12062488
At least pretend to be fair when making comparisons. Now you're just being silly.

>>12054047
>Its competing with nijirock
>betting on niji rock to take the day
you guys never learn huh

>>12062488
Ina has shown many times that she can get good numbers in JP times/EU times so that wasn't too surprising.

Kuzuha and most NijiJPs have a mostly JOP audience so their numbers understandably fall off the later it gets. It's already impressive that he can hold 20k till 4-5am JST.

>>12063034
Fake soul vs Real SOVL

>>12054047
Free parts of concerts haven't been doing that nuts recently. Nijirock's roster also isn't that insane in terms of popularity.
>23k for raindrops
>28k for Watame
>42k for Suisei
In a weird way, you would prefer for there to be less views on the free stream anyways, since that might mean more people are watching on SPWN/NND.

vshojo current numbers

>>12061279
Who were the ecelebs?

>>12049998
Vtubers aren't as big as you think they are.

>>12063625
The big FPS streamers like Stylishnoob, Shaka, Spygea..etc

>>12063316
Suisei’s can be explained by SPWN taking an absolute shit for the first half of the concert.

Mori's last song is almost at 3M views on YouTube and 1.5M on Spotify in less than a month

>>12064054
*Shrug*
It just feels so....normal for Mori's songs that it kinda just glides right under the radar, when many other holomem originals languish to hit 1m.

Here's something interesting

Rain Drops Biography:
17818 Physical Sales
986 Digital sales

Suisei's Album:
18687 Physical Sales
6831 Digital Sales

Even Gura couldn't save that shit of a series

10月1日~10月25日

9,177,359 るしあ Rushia
8,247,475 スバル Subaru
6,686,351 ころね Korone
4,727,234 かなた Kanata
4,596,161 わため Watame
4,528,489 ぼたん Botan
4,292,954 ぺこら Pekora
4,236,353 ラミィ Lamy
3,320,401 ルーナ Luna
3,093,415 フブキ Fubuki
2,687,349 ねね Nene
2,571,536 みこ Miko
2,553,604 ノエル Noel
2,483,648 フレア Flare
2,339,802 あくあ Aqua
2,183,973 トワ Towa
1,879,157 おかゆ Okayu
1,791,344 シオン Shion
1,660,326 あやめ Ayame
1,637,837 すいせい Suisei
1,007,117 まつり Matsuri
*909,114 アキロゼ Aki
*767,354 ポルカ Polka
*608,794 ミオ Mio
*591,595 はあと Haachama
*478,228 そら Sora
*472,874 ロボ子 Roboco
*283,679 メル Mel
*176,750 マリン Marine
*145,569 ちょこ Choco

9,269,253 Kson

3,958,226 Mori
3,468,181 Gura
2,911,728 IRyS
2,798,439 Kiara
2,200,261 Kronii
1,971,769 Fauna
1,309,873 Baelz
1,177,941 Sana
1,156,210 Amelia
1,085,383 Ina
*875,337 Mumei

>>12064852
Sorry anon, what was the context for 'digital sales' again? was it overseas + local and itunes/amazon?

>>12065075
A little expectable but still hard to believe Gura and Irys are on top of Kiara (for now).

>>12064852
ka ching!

>>12064852
Assuming he's linking oricon data, there's no oversea sales or sales from any online platform that Oricon doesn't track.

>>12065068
She can't save the ccv nor the vod views, well youtube buffering is part of the blame but I don't think it will look a lot nicer than this.

>>12065283
Japan only.
Includes the following stores:
iTunes Store / オリコンミュージックストア / mu-mo / music.jp / mora / LINE MUSIC / レコチョク

>>12063811
Its always the FPS community. Wasn't there some JP MC event thing and most of the participants were the FPS crew of streamers? I think only 1 was an MC content creator and they didn't bring on Kun either.

>>12064564
Nah, this one's overperforming almost every other Hololive song other than the big 5.
Ochame Kinou, RIP, Reflect, Gura-Mori King and Ayame's Goodby Sengen

>>12062655
>>12063025
Here are Ina's Minecraft peak numbers for the last 30 days, including one collab with Mori. The stream before that one is Umisea
15,765
18,776 (late night guerilla stream)
15.645
17,859 (Mori collab)
14,427
So Ina, the EU hours drawing vtuber, averages 16494 ccv for her Minecraft stream. Surely the King can easily top that?

>>12065068
>shit of a series
>Literally the 2nd most popular TTRPG and most popular WoD playthrough in the world.
Ogey

>>12065333
Kiara sort of tanked her numbers for the last month shilling Tales of Arise, though she got a sponsorship she really wanted and some really sweet merch. Still can't believe she got a Master Core

>>12065333
IRyS is inclining!

>>12065516
Yea...
Some anons are likely trying to compare this to a normal myth collab, but for a TTRPG the numbers dwarf basically everything out there except for...Critical Role.
I think it's fine, it offers a way for Mori to keep engaged, fosters Myth unity, and is a break from simply playing games on stream.

hololive have gone past the 'just streamer' reputation with all these conventions
>AX lite
>DoKomi
>Mega cons
>Fan expos
now AnimeNYC, aligned with celebrities

while we know who (2) have been dusted. next year with 3d, a live performance is possible

>>12065487
MC is a buffgame for Holos, PUBG's not a buffgame for anyone currently.

So, re-did the list with Hololive videos over 1 million view, this time including Stars, topic, group and sub- channels.

The remaining members are these, in the format
Name biggest video number of views date posted

Yozora Mel 吸血鬼が「ディスコミュ星人」歌ってみた【ホロライブ/夜空メル】 634,623 9-Mar-20
Aki Rosenthal 【3DMV】シャルイース /Aki Rosenthal【ホロライブ|民族調オリジナル】 980,722 29-Jun-20
Himemori Luna 【#姫森ルーナ3D】姫森ルーナ3Dお披露目なのら~!【#JointhefutureJP】 643,569 19-Jul-20
Airani Iofifteen Alien Alien / エイリアンエイリアン Cover by Airani Iofifteen / イオフィ 598,552 15-May-20
Tsukumo Sana 【DEBUT STREAM】BIG STREAM #holoCouncil #hololiveEnglish 879,435 23-Aug-21
Hakos Baelz 《DEBUT STREAM》- LET'S GET THIS PARTY STARTED! 936,291 23-Aug-21
Hanasaki Miyabi [Cover] Universe [Kanade Izuru/Hanasaki Miyabi] 162,796 11-Jul-20
Kanade Izuru 【Cover】Love me, Love me, Love me / Kanade Izuru 650,556 29-Jan-21
Arurandeisu 【 #アルランディス3D 】アルランディス3Dお披露目会場はこちらです【アルランディス/ホロスターズ】 137,308 29-Aug-21
Kishido Temma 【歌ってみた】ヒロイン育成計画【Covered by 岸堂天真/ホロスターズ】 106,667 12-Jul-20
Yukoku Roberu あゝオオサカdreamin'night / どついたれ本舗【Covered by 夕刻ロベル・岸堂天真・アステル】 827,820 29-Jun-20
Kageyama Shien 【歌ってみた】KING - Kanaria / covered by 影山シエン 778,334 27-Sep-20
Aragami Oga 【歌ってみた】DADDY ! DADDY ! DO !【荒咬オウガ & Ayunda Risu】 383,382 15-Jan-21

With the mention that Bae and Sana's debut stream both passed 1 million views 3 times, but YouTube reduced their numbers below it. Kronii's debut even passing 1 million 5 times.

The only member not on the list anymore is Yuzuki Choco... because she had a 1.2 million view 360° ASMR video on her Sub channel.

>>12065856
As long as they get 3D, anything's possible honestly. They'll transcend Kizuna AI and could do world tours (Only Mori that is)

>>12065563
So off the top of my head she got:
Free game copy, Exclusive hoodie, exclusive chess set, Master Core, PS5, iPad pro on top of whatever sponsorship money she got.
Then they followed it up by sponsoring her to shill their upcoming gacha game.
>>12065766
For those who don't know, Critical Role is made up of professional voice actors (Matthew Mercer, Laura Bailey for example).

>>12065856
still not at this level
>https://dotesports.com/streaming/news/ninja-jacksepticeye-pokimane-and-more-will-co-star-in-ryan-reynolds-free-guy
>https://www.dexerto.com/tv-movies/twitch-streamer-el-rubius-reveals-role-in-uncharted-movie-with-tom-holland-1680895/
>https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/15/sports/soccer/ibai-llanos-lionel-messi.html

>>12065400
>>12065406
That makes her d-sales even better. I wonder if overseas eclipses that number at least.

>>12065944
I can imagine Kiara and Gura doing this. Kiara for being the "idol" and Gura mentioned in her stream that her dream for joining hololive is having a concert like Hatsune Miku.

>>12066014
This will never happen because of the nature of the medium (2D anime streamers).

>>12065487
Anon, you should check your numbers since you're missing 3 Minecraft streams.

Numbers

>>12066014
This. Anons gotta realise that vtubers are still niche.

>>12066108
well theres disney/pixar/dreamworks

>>12066014
At best, Hololive's highest achievements is an anime and probably a game. That's it.

>>12066166
>11k zatsudan
Kronii doesn't deserve that

>>12065916
Like last time, some interesting tops:

Most videos over 1 million:
hololive ホロライブ - VTuber Group 140
Gawr Gura 36
Houshou Marine 32
Mori Calliope 26
Hoshimachi Suisei 25
Usada Pekora 17
Minato Aqua 16
Nekomata Okayu 14
Amane Kanata 14
Akai Haato 12
Inugami Korone 12
Murasaki Shion 11
Kiryu Coco 11
Shirakami Fubuki 10

Most streams over 1 million:
Gawr Gura 33
Usada Pekora 13
Houshou Marine 9
Shirogane Noel 8
Inugami Korone 6
Kiryu Coco 6
Uruha Rushia 6

Most songs over 1 million:
Hoshimachi Suisei 25 (+3 from the topic)
Mori Calliope 21 (+9 from the topic)
hololive ホロライブ - VTuber Group 20 (+8 from the topic)
Minato Aqua 12 (+1 from the topic)
Amane Kanata 12
Nekomata Okayu 10
Murasaki Shion 10

Most shorts/random videos over 1 million:
hololive ホロライブ - VTuber Group 117
Houshou Marine 16
Akai Haato 8
Shirakami Fubuki 3
Inugami Korone 2
Kiryu Coco 2
Kureiji Ollie 2

Only Suisei Marine, Mori and hololive main channel having 2 videos over 10 million views.
Suisei will have 5 videos over 10 million by the end of the year with no one else looking to close that gap.

>>12065487
Even ignoring the 3 streams you missed >>12066116, Kuzuha has done 2 minecraft streams in the past 3 months, the Minecraft JP event and last night as the 3rd game at the 10th hour of their stream marathon.
Peak for the event: 26k
Peak for Minecraft last night 15k

So Kuzuha, the Apex streamer who never plays Minecraft, averages 20.5k for his Minecraft streams, one of which was at 5am JST, so yea he can top that.

>>12066166
>king at 6k
big kusa

>>12065478
Huh. You're right, dang.
It's a good song, and the gap between Red and this one probably contributes, as well as the covers also boosting algo reach.

based Kuzuha killing his median. numberfags btfo

>>12066320
Single bad stream doesn't kill the median. Spamming Valo would do it though.

>>12066166
he always get 10k anytime any game he play they said, won't dip below 10k they said

>>12066242
Well the Myth collab ended

Today's superchats

>>12066277
>averages 20.5k for his Minecraft streams
Not anymore. 7k 30 minutes in kek. That's gonna tank his median albeit.

>>12042773
>RabbitDoog
>or some name like that for Korone - Pekora
Isn't there also some conflict/drama for the two of them?

https://youtu.be/Dawc9ryU6vg?t=108
Which one of you gave bucket head the info?

>>12066273
GURA MOGGED GURA MOGGED
MEMESHART IRRELEVANT

>>12066577
Axia's birthday is today huh

>>12066577
kson gang why u no sc more than fandead?!

>>12066673
He could be /here/ and lurks in /vt/ for data and rrats

>>12065478
Need to include GETCHA! in there for the big 6. While it's not as fast to 10m views as Goodbye Sengen, it has been aging as well as if not better than Goodbye Sengen.

>>12066241
I can see the myth girls doing some VA roles in mainstream movies

>>12066673
Wait, stream hatchet only records one stream a day? That sounds retarded.

how does Sora not get corrupted by the amount of power she has over the girls? no matter how big the other girls are, they still have to listen to her since she's their daisenpai.

>>12063571
back to normality

>>12067084
....Oh. Seriously?
That would explain why Pekora's numbers were hard-nerfed, considering she had multiple days of multiple streams.

>>12066273
Keep in mind, 34 of those 36 videos on Gura's channel are stream VODs, and majority of Marine's 1m videos are her short shitposts.

>>12067120
She’s a doormat.
She pretty much said that in holotalk, she just does what other people tell her to do

>>12067084
Nah, Mikos one was accurate.

will the collab ban give better number for niji en3?

>>12067239
would it benefit her if she was more proactive? she's in a dilemma since she wants to collab with her kouhais but she doesn't want to make it seem like she using her status to get the collab.

>>12067120
They have a lot of respect for her but you never see her order anyone around outside of the rare promotion event.
Most of the time she stands alone, or just with 1 other member. She's just as shy and reserved as most of them, needing others like Flare, Roboco or Iofi to lead the way.

>>12066242
11k zatsudan marshmellow stream... isn't that gura level?

>>12067217
Doesn't matter. Hololive official has more 1 mil view videos. GURA AND MARINE MOGGED.

>>12066665
>Isn't there also some conflict/drama for the two of them?
No, they talk to each other.
you just need to watch the streams to know this shit.

>>12067475
that Polka collab was fun to watch due to Polka's past life. I want Sora to collab more with her kouhais and incline as well

>>12065856
i'm still waiting for a Disney Animated Movie Starring Gawr Gura as the lead role.

>>12067511
Gura got 20k for her Marshmallow QnA (Bathroom stream and Trident AFK)
11k is FAR from Gura level

>>12067511
It was around 7-8k but got a boost once the Myth collab ended.
For EN, i guess it is on Gura Level... Can't even remember the last time one of them read Marshmallows outside of NijiEN3.
For JP marshmallow reading is a bit of an event, so Holos at Kronii's ccv would get more of a buff than this.

>>12067567
Not gonna happen unless Disney gives Kingdom Hearts permissions.

>>12067541
I know you are acting like that retard this morning but seriously you are not doing great.

>Pegora plays Apex, gets 21k
>Kuzeha plays MC, only 10k
Bots offline

>>12067750
Chumfaggot cope. Imagine thinking Gura is the "VOD Queen" when she's getting mogged by a channel with 1/3rd her subs rumao rumao

>>12067683
Phase Connect got to stream Kingdom Hearts so Disney just hates Hololive apparently

Another day, another mogging by Kronii

>>12042292
which month has Niji won so far? if they haven't won one yet, which month is the closest?

>>12064852
>76 million gross from album sales alone
I'd bet my ass Suisei & cover accumulated 200m yen minimum for this project
>merch
>concert
and their ads probably didn't cost 20m

A lot of people in the thread seem to be underestumating HoloEN's ability to grow. You know they have only existed for just a little over a year and already reached this high, right? We don't even know their ceiling. Seeing how HoloMyth keeps surprising everyone, I think doubters in this thread will eat their words soon.

>>12049319
>vocal collab with holo
but can be composed by Inoue

>>12068452
how many ads did they even run? the ads I've seen here are fan ones where they put the girls on their local buses.

>>12068452
From Japanese only sales*

>>12068591
that's how /vt/ is

>>12068452
I don't know about 200M but maybe it would be safe to assume that the people that album did buy the ticket but that is usually not the case so generous estimation is $1.5M. Bushiroad and SPWN gets a cut so maybe they get $1M clear of everything after cost? I sure hope Suisei gets more than just 30%

>>12068621
>truck
>billboard
>train station
ad spaces and all in very limited duration, not everyone caught the billboard

>>12067329
NijEN3 has a collab ban? What's the point? Why do these non-Idol companies just copy Hololive blindly

>>12068761
wait, is it possible that the fan-funded ad ran longer than their actual campaign kek

>>12068621
They did an ad campaign like a week before the concert I think?
>>12068783
Sounds dumb considering Wave 1 didn't have a collab ban.

>>12068783
I believe that their 'collab ban' lasts until the first full-wave collab they do. Waves 1 and 2 did theirs relatively quick, but wave 3 hasn't done theirs yet.

>>12068385
Koshien Month

>>12068591
You're kidding right? they already peaked. It's all downhill from here.

>>12068783
I think the ban is between branches only but not include gens in the same branch? Hope I'm not mistaken. Does anyone track NijiEN or the whole Niji's inner collab policy?

>>12068878
They already did a full collab on 10/15
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sc1G1Hhq2Ao

>>12068783
That's just an excuse. The most likely reason was probably they haven't paid the Niji guy in full yet.

>>12068117
King of Second place

>>12066577
I think number thread has made me unfazed, this guy really just earned 16 thousand USD for having a fake birthday and it's totally normal now. And Rushia earned half of that simply for breathing.

Updated Niji Numbers

>>12068591
Depends on what type of growth.
In terms of CCV and whatnot, nothing will ever match q4 2020 for Myth ever again. The perfect storm of Debut + first big Corpo En Vtuber + Covid lockdowns...for them to reach heights of that level would require a confluence of events outside of their control.
In terms of reaching a wider audience and being more well known? Well....it's not impossible, but that's something that takes time and whatnot, when they haven't even fully consolidated their current gains.
TL;DR - Let's wait another year then have this discussion again.

>>12068761
It was also in T.V but I don't think they paid anything for those appearances

>>12069018
Yea, comment deleted for being dumb, I should've checked before I typed that bullshit since I had my doubts.

>only kronii is streaming
nijibro it's your chance

>>12069081
Rushia was because of horse gacha. Her normal is like 3-4k I think.

>>12069035
Paid? You need to pay to do a collab?

>>12068969
You are either retarded, or your life is so worthless that you resort to saying dumbshit just to feel like you know something

>>12069035
Shit post aside, the guy is a 2 digit streamer.
>>12069101 (me)
From what I gather about their numbers since they debut, people mostly decided to just stick with Lazulight and Selen.

>>12069101
The Ethyria girls are averaging less than 1k...

>>12069204
Damn, Kronii is getting 11k for just a marshmallow stream way out of her debut buff, and without any big event / celebration either. People are this hungry for drama, eh?

>>12069146
Of course, I'm all positive for HoloEN's ability to grow. Since covid ban is being lofyed, I don't see it as an obstacle, but rather an opportunity for Holo members outside of JP to finally be able to have their 3D debuts on stage. It's still a buff that none of us can predict.

>>12066458
>10.3k
Still true

>>12069164
The one on TV are by accident (ad truck passed a news reporter) and in top 10 music list. They didn't pay for those.

>>12069442
HoloEN will get a third boost with their 3D streams, most of them seem like they actually want to use the 3D models in the streams unlike the JP side.

This is gonna tank her average for the week...

>>12069437
She hasn't really dished any that I've heard. Honestly, it's the voice. Having a nice voice is the most important thing for a vtuber's success. All of these companies should scout voice actresses. Design is really important too, and personality is as well. But voice, man, it's all about the voice.

>>12065944
Cover dragging their feet on Myth 3D has the potential to be one of the biggest blunders they have ever done. The potential of Gura/Mori concerts and stuff like that is just too much. They are fucking it up and they need to find a way to get it fucking done. No more excuses.

>>12069146
Council for what it's worth is a success in terms of monetary gains. If you just use Irys as the chuuba to compare any chuuba post-June 2021 any holo debuting and is getting the same level or faster growth will be considered a success. So far only Kronii has outperformed Irys as far as CCV and SCs are below average but not abysmally so. They should are all expected to earn $100k around 3-4 months. But they have to stream pretty regularly like Irys did. They also need to find reasons for viewers to throw money them like karaokes, milestones, celebrations, game achievement endurance and whatnot.

>>12069639
Stop blaming cover retard, ask your embassy

>>12052941
Why? Ayame and He-Ayame do and they stream to about the same frequency.

>>12069101
7k ceiling remains

>>12069680
Council for what it's worth is a success in terms of monetary gains. If you just use Irys as the chuuba to compare any chuuba post-June 2021. Any holo debuting and is getting the same level as her or faster will be considered a success. So far only Kronii has outperformed Irys as far as CCV and SCs. The rest are below average but not abysmally so. They should are all expected to earn $100k around 3-4 months. But they have to stream pretty regularly like Irys did. They also need to find reasons for viewers to throw money at them like karaokes, milestones, celebrations, game achievement endurance and whatnot.

-Typos

>>12069437
>>12069636
No top or mid holo is streaming right now in JP or EN. She is considered a mid to top performer so people will tune in.

>>12069680
Kronii's also debuffing herself for wanting to finish most of her games which are also fairly repetitive (Hollow Knight, Hades) and games that are pretty text based (Frostpunk, Untold Stores).

>>12068783
This is why I think HoloEN management blocking NijiEN collabs actually makes sense. When they're blatantly trying to do Holo-lite with NijiEN, why play into that by introducing them to your audience for free?

>>12069807
All of Council (except Sana maybe) debuff themselves pretty hard on SCs but I guess having the diligence to always keep them open and go through them every stream is a skill like any other.

>>12068385
>January
niji: 12
holo: 17
others: 2

>February
niji: 8
holo: 19
others: 1

>March
niji: 11
holo: 18
others: 2

>April
niji: 7
holo: 22
others: 1

>May
niji: 4
holo: 26
others: 1

>June
niji: 5
holo: 25
others: 0

>July
niji: 13
holo: 17
others: 1

>August
niji: 15
holo: 13
others: 3

>>12070168
the baseball thing was in August, right?

>>12069926
>>12070091
They don't have SCs on when reading SCs. Irys always have them open. They don't do archived karaokes often. Irys has them weekly. Fauna does have her ASMRs. Sana has to grind her platform games and see the win to get the fat akasupa. Bae, well a lot her audience sounds fucking young. Maybe she will earn more money through sponsors. She does stream a lot and can sing so she should do more karaokes. Mumei just needs to do more streams. People do SC her no matter what. Kronii needs to atleast do 1 game every week that people like watching like MC. This zatsu is also a hit for her fans so she can do more of these too.

>>12070235
yes

>>12070604
>>12070168
>>12068877
jesus christ...
niji barely won that month even with their biggest buff

>>12067329
They can't even do a collab ban right...

>>12070709
reminds me of that rrat that managed the IN
branch are the same ones managing the EN branch.

>>12070689
It was also a pretty buff month for Hololive too with all the anniversaries, 3D Lives, and the Council debuts. It was just a buff month in general for vtubing.

>>12069639
Nah they are just building anticipation. Not like you can spam 3D debuts or concerts.

>>12070775
It's Noor, and it isn't an rrat is it?

>>12070808
I'm convinced that if council debuted one girl each day, hololive would've won that month as well

>>12069639
>dragging their feet
It's not Japan's fault for shutting down their borders due to coof. Plus, I'm very hopeful their 3D will be good seeing how stars3D improved everytime. Miyabi was perfect.

>>12070837
Dumbass in here think no 3D now is a bad thing. Wait u til it happens, the seeth is going through the roof

>>12071049
The main thing they need to fix is the awful framerate in their 3D streams. It's pathetic.

>>12070168
fucking may-june holy jesas

Is there a reason why Niji 3D lives aren't as watched as Holo 3D?

They should just announce 3D for Mori and IRyS in the meantime while saying that the rest of Myth will get them when the situation improves. People will get over it, EN fans are pathetic pushovers anyway.

>>12069776
Ayame was exclude in the October chart

>>12071082
small indie company, please understand

I don't even care that much about the en girls getting 3d debuts apart from the fat numbers on the day, I just want the covid restrictions to die down enough for cover to relax so the jp girls can do random 3d streams with whatever they come up with to do like they used to.

>>12071172
Flash back about Pekora's new outfit incident. (exclude her new year's kimono)

>>12071172
Mori wouldn't accept it

>>12071172
Mori would say no and then it would make IRyS look bad if she accepted ahead of Myth.

>>12069790
Sounds like NijiEN can release wave 4 in a few months with no problem!

>>12071355
A few? Anon, December is only a month and some change away.

>>12071082
Subaru's was smooth

>>12071507
Subaru's was pre-recorded. Niji's 3D quality is also terrible when they are not pre-recorded.

Just speculating here.
So Lazulight debut and almost a month to the day, Nijisanji announced Wave 3/4 audition.
If they follow the same pattern, they might announced another round of auditions (for a female wave) on Nov 9/10 or Nov 16/17.

>>12071355
I'm excited for NijimalesEN. Not to watch of course, but it'll be a new frontier for numberfagging.

>>12070168
jesas niji only got 1 gold medal..

>>12071093
october is going to be like that soon >>12042292

Amelia finally has a schedule now. Is the burnt out finally ending?

>>12065944
>transcend Kizuna Ai
>world tours
Kizuna Ai already had a concert in the States though

Sometimes you can get random (EN/JP) indie ads on gura's channel.
I think it would be better to stream while turning on the ads.

>>12071228
I think their studio is always booked. You have to book it months in advance. They have to get a new studio for 3D to get the spontaneity that you want

>>12072411
A virtual tour that didn't take place in any concert hall or stadium iirc.

>>12072411
That tour ain't doing shit, and she doesn't even speak English

>>12071325
IRyS has no reason to reject a 3D debut since she isn't stuck with a group spread all over the world and unable to report for performance. Everything is easily justifiable with the correct marketing. Cover just doesn't know what proper marketing is...

>>12072552
>>12072553
https://kizunaai.com/en/news/live/1271/
Now that's just moving the goalposts. What is it with HoloEN fans and the uncontrollable need to cope as much as the nijifags do whenever someone so as much mildly implies that HoloMyth isn't super groundbreaking in every way?

It's masturi's time to shine! Now we can see, how bad was the damage? Can she still kill it with a apex gacha stream like she used to? Stay tuned!
https://twitter.com/natsuiromatsuri/status/1453195469501308933

>>12072703
In a way, many fans would be expecting her to get 3D because she's the Vsinger sooner than later. Some even thought that she would debut with 3D already. However, Irys is still growing her fanbase and is really really young as a Vsinger. She doesn't even have a full setlist to even do a 3D concert on her own channel unless she sings covers. I won't be surprised though if Myth and Irys already have a 3D in the works. We will have to see. Fucking HoloStars man all got 3D.

How long does nijiEN or the other overseas branch needs to grind before they can get their own 3D debuts and a trip to Nipponland? 1 year or 2 years? Minimum $200k on SC?

>>12072772
Anon, no where in there does it say it takes place in those two cities.
>This tour will consist of 2 shows, one set in Los Angeles and one set in New York.
It was just a thematic online concert.

>>12072703
NTA, but in my experience, no matter what your intention might be, showing any sort of treatment at work that can be interpreted as unjustified and unfair can be ground for drama. I'm not talking about outsiders / fans, I'm talking about the employees / Holos themselves. It's not like it's unprecedented either - they already have Pekora pulling a menhera act and stopped streaming for a week after her project proposal got rejected, while (according to Pekora) some other Holos' similar projects were accepted. EN-wise, there is at least Kiara who passive aggressively complained about a bunch of stuffs, too.
Last thing Cover need is another Holo complaining, yet how can they make sure that every other EN members will be fine if IRyS gets her 3D first (even with the logistic explanation)? It's better safe than sorry, and that's why it's unlikely for IRyS to get her 3D before Myth (unless somehow it looks like Covid restrictions for the vaccinated aren't going to end within the next 5-6 months, which is neither the case in Japan nor NA)

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>>12073089
Iirc 50k subs for a new costume, 100k for 3D
Lazulight is already good for 3D, but there are still a lot of older Livers that have not yet gotten their 3Ds, so Lazulight is at the very end of the line. Unless Anykara wants to prioritize them for a special EN event or something (but I assume the older Livers will be pissed they got passed over for the newbies)

>>12072540
Yes another studio would be a good idea, but one of the big reasons there's such a booking backlog is because cover are so careful about number of people in the studio that they schedule every worker and talent that uses it which delays everything around when all the relevant people can be available.

>>12072772
That Virtual tour boosted VShojo more than it helped Ai-chan kek

>>12072703
There's even precedent for a single member of a group getting 3D well before their peers, Rikka. He got a 3D debut like a year before the rest of the stars so he could do music performances. Maybe they could spin it that way if IRyS got invited to some big vtuber concert but the EN fanbase are so schizo over myth getting it they'd whine no matter what.

>>12073496
And then Ai never worked with Vshojo again.

>>12073548
The tour was only back in May, how frequently are you expecting that kind of collab?

>>12073089
3D debut backlog means at the very soonest end of 2022

>>12073249
I just want to add another example with Pekora not having a new outfit while her genmates already have multiple versions already cause many nousagis complaining over a year and everytime a member gets a outfit people will just bring out Pekora demanding for explanations.

>>12073245
Because of the pandemic restrictions still being in full swing at that time. Still doesn't negate the fact that she was working with an American company to organize a concert targeted at a non-Japanese audience, and it's not the first time she's participated in something aimed at a more global crowd: https://vocadb.net/E/2906/porter-robinsons-secret-sky.. Whatever HoloEN does, it's not going to be breaking new ground despite their greater popularity.

>>12073932
A Kizunafag is trying so hard to prop up their dead horse. I applaud your blind efforts.

>>12073540
Rikka is a first gen Holostar, right? Irys is absolutely not a first gen HoloEN.
Irys isn't going to want to take the first EN 3d live from Myth, it'll cause controversy and potential hard feelings and you don't want that kind of cloud hanging over what should be a celebratory event. She doesn't even have enough songs for a good concert anyway (not to mention the fact that her music career is trailing her streaming one in relative popularity) so what's the rush?

>>12074494
No one's propping up anything, just pointing out HoloEN isn't going to do anything drastically unheard of and become gods of vtubing in the process. But I guess I shouldn't have expected any objectivity from the thread that actually believes HoloEN saved the entire company from dying.

>>12074600
>it'll cause controversy and potential hard feelings
The very existence of the EN vsinger already did that by virtue of having her songs and MVs paid for by the company while everyone else has to do and pay for everything themselves.

>>12074678
True, so why further irritate that with another perceived line jump? What Cover needs to really do is focus on getting Irys an actual hit or two, because her musical output right now doesn't stack up to the numbers of any of the musical Myths.

>>12069480
Witchcraft is real. When do we burn Cover at the stake for being Satanists?

>>12074600
I never said she should.

>>12074747
Her musical output doesn't even match Mori who had to self finance and find her own producers for her music while working 3 jobs.
I honestly thought that they would have pumped out songs faster for IRyS but I guess I was expecting too much.

>>12074678
*Caused Kiara to Seethe.
Calli just shrugged as she knows how these things go as you give up money an creative freedom in exchange for the company paying for and dictating direction.
>>12074669
Well, they're fools to think that they 'saved' Hololive, but HoloEN definitwly moved ahololive from "strong competitor to Nijisanji" to "Global leader in V-tubing". It also helped them weather the Taiwan yab a lot better than they could otherwise, but speculating on that is a bunch of "what ifs".

>>12074951
>I honestly thought that they would have pumped out songs faster for IRyS but I guess I was expecting too much.
They should have tried to replicate monthly cover/OG song model of Mori. But I guess she's just too strong, you apparently can't even replicate her with a whole team. Mori is as much an aberration musically as Gura is on the streaming side.

>>12074951
Mori has the advantage of being able to pick and choose who she works with and has the money, same as Suisei in this regard. IRyS is stuck waiting for Hololive (and by extension Cover) to get things organized, and you know how slow corporate shit moves at times.
>>12074818
Try, and you likely just end up blessing them in some way. Whatever voodoo witchery their luck operates on is something beyond mortal ken.

>>12074747
Irys is not that talented. Hiring her as a Vsingle is a mistake

>>12074951
>>12075122
>>12075142
To add to this, there are more cogs in the music production process for IRyS. She can only provide the vocals and have to rely on other parties for backing track, lyrics, mixing, and MV. Meanwhile Mori does her own lyrics and MV (most of the time) on her own.
This saves A LOT of time of communication between sides (lyricist and composer, lyricist and IRyS, IRyS and composer, and finally IRyS and MV maker). Add Japanese work + communication autism to that and you get a far slower pace that IRyS has no control over even if she has full creative control by funding everything herself.

>>12070840
It doesn't have any proofs other than Finana talking about how she met Noor during her audition (and never again after that but for some reason this part always get forgotten)

>>12075122
Watame shit out original songs, but it didn't do as well as Calli.

>>12075403
Noor live in the burgerland?

>>12075301
I'm more concerned with quality than quantity. Her songs did worst than Moona's

>>12075503
To be fair, Moona's song is really beautiful, honestly much better than any of IRyS' so far.

>>12075503
I blame the incompetency of management. While I am not the biggest fan of HERE COMES HOPE (both version of Caesura of Despair are better imo), many people loved the song. The fact that it did not receive a MV in the debut week is a travesty imo. They chose to trade the digital sales for less hype / exposure on youtube, and it hampered her numbers.
Meanwhile look at Mori with Your Mori. Basically the same as IRyS with Caesura of Despair EP, but the major difference is how she already secured the biggest / 2nd biggest (below Suisei) music fanbase in Hololive. Couple that with the fact that TGRIALS and Bully both received above average MV, the two songs did better than most Hololive originals which have MV at release. This is the power of an established fanbase which was the result of Mori having all 4 of her songs in the first EP premiered with a MV during debut week.

>>12074669
Awww have we pissed you off little guy?

>>12075738
If you think you can be better at management, please make one.

>>12075832
Omega, stop reading vt and get back to working on your vsinger's music.

>>12075503
Eh it's a late MV, everyone already listened to the song before. Same reason why Stellar Stellar is slower than GHOST to 1M.

>>12075832
I offered a reason why IRyS' originals did worse than Moona's that is not "quality" and >>12075702.

blaming management for IRyS music flop the thread