/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

ccv + sc
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://overseas.live-ranking.com/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/total-ranking/youtube
>https://www.dousetu.com/daily_ranking/
>http://v-ana.com/
>https://playboard.co/en/

Hololive
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://twitter.com/holo_data
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://mipacd.github.io/chat-stats/excl-chat.html
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html

Nijisanji
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings

>>12031561
Selen, Kuzuha or Kanae andSara for VSaikyou 4, how good would the numbers be? The points should be enough to enter as a team.

Any chance Dakooter will magically end up in HoloEN3?

>>12031641
>The points should be enough to enter as a team.
That's not smart, Kuzuha would suck all of the audience from his peers.
Having Kuzuha in a team with non Nijis, preferentially with Twitch streamers or Mildom streamers while the rest in a separate team would be much better for their collective numbers

>>12031641
She will get her regular viewership because they gonna die in the first 5 minutes in every game

>>12031799
Its VSaikyou not CR Cup. The only mildomfags would be some VSPO.

>>12031827
Its VSaikyou so skill level is lower. Also its community tourney so they won't die that early since Haru will probably do lottery for landing spots so there's no need to contest.

>>12031641
Not everyone is Kuzuha and gets 3x amount the views in tournaments. Think Selen would get better viewership than average, then again where's the entry ticket for it for Selen?
Also this team is stupid and probably impossible.

Pekora streaming today, lets see if she debuffs herself again or if she might get some decent numbers.

>>12031917
Kuzuha's amount of views depends on his team. Luckily, he usually has a good/interesting team. You got Sara for the EN/JP and if Kuzuha's no good for chemistry, put in Kanae. He can work well with Selen.
>probably impossible.
Why? Its Master/Diamond/Plat. That fits VSaikyou's point system.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MzE-t15nPYQ

Migo in 30 mins ...
>It's fking Mario
Nevermind

>>12031955
Gura is inclining and that's all that matters

Rushia at 20K with horse gacha.

>>12031955
>>12032016
It's pretty good, she has way less streams but keeps up with Miko. The huge inclines of Flare, IRyS (!), Luna and Polka are more surprising tho.

kuzuha should do a apex gacha stream and break 50k

>>12032019
25k, good showing.

Does anyone else think the whole Holo Sports Fes might net them the top 5 spots in daily ranking? I feel like it's the biggest Hololive event of the year so the hype is going to be really massive.

>>12032140
Horse pussy gacha never fails to amaze me.

>>12032140
Noone is fucking streaming and this is her usual timeslot and this is a buff stream for her because people want to see her reaction if she even gets unlucky

>>12032140
We have the winner of the day, stop the count everyone.

>>12032169
Gacha strong
>>12032131
I don't get the appeal of APEX gacha. Other gacha games I do but not APEX's. The legendary shit you get is all so lame.

>>12032233
Someone should tell Hololive girl to stream FGO gacha
Now that's the true test

>>12032372
good luck getting permissions for that

>>12032384
Well, if recent China yab is anything to go by …

susaaaaaan

>>12032442
She is malding lol

While preparing the combined charts for Hololive and Nijisanji, fetching the EN names for the streamers and all of a sudden
>Snow White Paradise El Santo Flow Wasurena Pure Princess Livre Love Heidern Dokodoko Yattaze Valkyria Passion Alfr Noel Chakoboshi Eluaria Frosia Made-in Bloom Elu
Fucking kek, thank God Nene's name is unofficial.

>>12032442
the comeback is real

>>12032442
Susan...why...
Well, Rushia is SUFFERING right now, just got spooked twice on one 10 roll...
She might break 30k off of just fucking horse gacha if her luck continues.

https://playboard.co/en/youtube-ranking/most-superchatted-all-channels-in-worldwide-weekly?period=1633910400
https://playboard.co/en/youtube-ranking/most-superchatted-all-channels-in-worldwide-weekly?period=1634515200

Uhhh can someone explain me how this indie mogged hololive 2 weeks in a row?

>>12031955
Pekora and Miko will always be #1 and #2 on these lists, lol. Destined to be linked together forever. Also, IRyS being the #2 EN behind only Gura (who is default #1 all the time) is pretty great for her.

>30K
I kneel to horse pussy.

>30k Get

lol 30k
horse pussy is too strong

but king will obviously take the day with around 40k tonight, too bad for rushia

>>12032603
makes me even sadder for the model debuff for irys, she works harder than council

>>12031955
Hours watched is the metric that should be the least taken seriously if mediocre holos like Flare and Lamy can grind a ranking that high just through sheer hours.

>>12031985
Surprising game choice for her. Might do good numbers since its different from what she usually plays although I'm not expecting it to top the day.

>>12032591
Holoshit has been reclining for a while, Nijisanji is the top company in Japan and even indies are more successful than holowhores now

>>12032622
Not done yet, she's still suffering and Mya hit even higher heights.
>12032591
Oh fuck off you know why.

>>12032591
She probably flashed her ass again, gets the boys going.

>>12032633
I like it as a metric since you need to be strong in both categories to rank near the top. You need to retain good viewership and put the hours in. That is why Pekora and Miko dominate this all the time. It filters out shitters like Ayame.

>>12032591
Who gives a fuck. Mentally ill paypigs who have open wallets aren't indicative of anything. That lame ass titty streamer convert will never get the viewership that Hololive gets. Fucking DarksydePhil still has idiots willing to give him money. That should tell you all you need to know about paypigs.

>>12032648
>>12032705
The holobrony goes into a mental breakdown when his carefully constructed fantasy world is shattered by reality

https://twitter.com/houshoumarine/status/1452940986036854786?s=21
>Marine’s return on the 30th
predictions?

>>12032741
40k

>>12032741
If nobody overlaps her then 50k. I know gen3 won't overlap her and she will do her comeback during primetime

>>12032726
If I wanted to watch former strippers I would go to chatrubate.

I have a feeling Hololive might win again

It's rare to see Rushia gets 30k playing games, what buff her?

>>12032815
no fuckin way
king + tournament never lose

>>12032633
>Above average CCV for holo

Mediocre holo

If its that easy then how come Kiara's not in top 10 she have long ass stream no?

>>12032836
bad gacha rolls + rushia menhara = good numbers

>>12032836
It's a gacha stream, japs love their gambling.

>>12032806
>The holobrony gets even more angry
Who cares about empty view numbers if none of them actually care enough to spend money on you anyway?
It’s what happens when underage kids watch you play Minecraft a little too much, you get the underage audience.

>>12032726
A fool and his money are easily parted. Keep defending paypigs.

>>12032633
It's a good metric to show their "effort" and result

>>12032839
Its pubg not APEX. Even his Valo tourney numbers were not upto APEX tourney numbers. Who are his team members for this pubg one? Anyone big?

>>12032836
nip gacha autism

>>12032741
40-50k

>>12032930
Keep crying holobrony

https://bonanza-base.com/shop/ywshop
what is this

>>12032790
>>12032949
Serious under estimation. 80k minimum.

>>12032741
If she was a true numberfag she would wait until November to maximize her hours watched for that month.

>>12032987
e-ma is a throat lozenge, they hire idols usually to do theme songs for them from time to time.

>>12032898
Imagine being proud to be a paypig. One day you will realize you are the saddest existence there is of a human being.

Jesus christ you idiots stop responding to the obvious bait, you can do it later after the primetime.

>>12032987
Why does holo get 3 reps

>>12032591
ask a troll question,
get troll answers

>>12033043
I’ll defend anything that makes holobronies like you seethe

I just checked kuzuha previous vcc pubg number and he got like 10-20k. I don't think he gonna win today either.

>>12033043
one day you will realize you are replying to bait

>>12032726
based indiechad putting holofags in their place. Don't ever feel like your work isn't valuable in these threads.

>>12033085
>why does the biggest vtuber group get multiple reps
Gee, I wonder

>>12033134
Holobronies are too stupid for that

>>12033136
Face streamer titty streamer convert. No different than pewdiepie or sodapoppin.

>>12033129
how long ago was that though?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YA5NdIUwT4Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YA5NdIUwT4Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YA5NdIUwT4Y

What's your options on this kind of recap stream?
The fact it's in JP time sure would suck some of the viewer from other girls stream, no?

>>12033129
not tourney

* current streams on Nijisanji *

>>12033085
Have you checked the view numbers? Sora's shaking hips mogged every non-holo. Last I saw, Sora, Aqua, and Suisei was in the hundreds of thousands while the rest were in the 10s of thousands

>>12033170
holocope

>>12033170
But that’s literally all of hololive
Do holobronies not even know the whores they’re watching? Holy kek

>>12033170
based

>>12033226
holobronies don't know anything, pay him no mind as they cope about getting BTFO by a hafu with no corporate backing.

Will Kson go the Hal way of creating her own vtuber agency?

what time is it in jakarta

>>12033248
Hal's working with Niji AND CR, two very popular things in JP. K-son probably not getting work with Niji due to China.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSowdwODds4
Duck Marvel shill stream
Cast your number anon

>>12033258
google exists to answer questions like that anon

>enter thread
>baits flying left and right
Why would that be, one may wonder…
>oh…

>>12033204

>>12033296
forgive the king, his back hurt from being mogged by baby miko for 2 days now.

>>12033296
And seaniggers hour

>>12033299
now give me the non holos

>>12033175
3 months ago.
https://youtu.be/Mr_s9ThrNms
>>12033189
It is though. It pretty much same as the last time.

>>12033296
If you win:
>NijiJP vs HoloJP
If you don't win:
>HoloEN vs HoloJP
>Vshojo vs HoloEN
>former Holo vs HoloJP
What's next? Do they ever run out of bait?
That was such a shitty comparison too considering Rushia got back her throne for SCs for the month

>>12033244
That's really the sad thing about Kson. No matter how hard she tries, she will never be Japanese, like any other burger. The tragedy of our life time.

>>12033315
I've looked at Mito's, Mirai Akari, Hime Hina, and Kyo channel but I can't find it.

>>12033337
lol ya nobody mentioned anything niji within those hours at all

>>12033244
Holobronies are basically all EOP /v/ tourists

why are holobronies so obsessed with nijiniggers when they're getting BTFO'd by an Indie vtuber? Their numbers are so pathetic holy KEK

Where's the Nijicope anon? We have another one for you
>kson is honorary Niji

>>12033299
I last saw Suisei and Aqua at almost the same numbers. I guess hornyomis are too starved

>>12033420
gotchu

NIJICOPE LIST
>building a sub-culture
>slow and steady growth
>merch sales
>no longer showing off their achievements on their page because they have shown more humility
>percentages
>honorary *insert name here*
>tournaments don't count
>fortune telling
>volume
>averages
>total CCV during primetime
>trailers are ads
>Google trends
>Holo EN was a desperate gambit
>Holo's forcibly acquired audience vs Niji's natural growth
>stop picking on midgets! fight someone your own size!
>LARPing as Vshojofags
>Holobubble is bursting
>foreign buff/global audience bad, muh local Nips good
>YouTube Japan trends
>Apex will only get more popular from now on!
>flexible creative freedom
>Holo's restrictive management will cause them to eventually graduate
>Cover uses bots
>Kson is honorary Niji

>>12033432
its because of a recent clip https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAA62BCVjak

It's actually so sad that one of the biggest Vtubing companies gets destroyed by a hafu larping as a yakuza mob boss. Why do they let cover take 50% of their superchats again?

Nijifags coping too much these days
Nijiwhores can't beat Holos? They'll use other chuubas as if they're also Nijis

Well i guess having weak-ass new EN Gen 3 and getting mogged too much this October is hard

>>12033435
You forgot about Hal.

>>12033420
Virtual Real would not like that.

>>12033134
hes replying to himself, he already knows

I'm pretty sure K-son just lived in the US and isn't a hafu btw. You can go continue on but just wanted to point that out.

>12033458
>Kson>Holo>Niji
Stop hurting yourself.
>>12033469
Well that was supposed to be part of "insert honorary Niji here" but guess it's time to make a list to pad it and make it seem longer

How come Gura doesn't get as much superchats as Rushia? I thought she was supposed to be the biggest vtuber in the world?

>>12033469
Again. Hal isn't strong like the top tier Nijimales. Don't use his godviews of tourneys.

>>12033315
Found these by clicking the #e_ma... On Suisui's video
Siro - 84k
Mito - 280k
Mokota Mememe - 66k
Kyo hanabasami - 48k
So only Mito got higher than Sora, and the rest of the participants I haven't gone looking really closely.

stop replying
>spamming/flooding

>>12033501
chumbuds cope about SC because they're too poor to SC her unlike any other chuuba.

>>12033198
It's the girl that kicked the other girl off that ball.

>holobronies throwing bait
>holobronies immediately blame Nijiniggers
look at the last 300 posts in the last thread, 100% Hololive, there's no actual Niji fan in /#/

>>12033577
What happened to the Nijifags then?

>>12033577
fuck off VOMScancer, this is a holochad thread. I know you shitters are behind every bsitpost on /vt/

How many of these holo/niji tribalposts are samefagging?

My guy, you're so good at replying to yourself you should just start a solo talk show instead of seething over numbers over girls and boys playing an anime character behind an avatar.
Come on now don't give up yet, Kuzuha still has a chance, have faith in your king :-)

>>12033602
>people are putting nijiniggers in their place that means they're samefagging.
Kill yourself back to your containment threads.

>>12033602
>Replies: 125
>Posters: 39
Says everything you need to know about this thread

AYYO WHERE'S THE BLOODY NUMBERS

>>12033661
all me

>>12033420
Not only that, Pekora, Gura, and Miko are honorary Nijis.

>>12033701
also me

>>12033685
Kuzuha 20k PUBG probably. It's Kuzuha so who knows, he could still take the day back.

>>12033589
Why are there supposed to be Nijifags at holoboard?

>>12033730
RUMAO, IT'S OVER NIJINIGGERS. THERE'S NO WAY HE'LL EVEN CROSS 15K LET ALONE 20K

Hololive is basically inspired by Nijisanji's style of streaming so all the Holo members are Nijisanji, thus making Nijisanji win all the months in 2021. This means HoloEN is also part of Niji, that means Nijisanji has the most subbed and most viewed vtubers in the world.

>>12031641
Wont happen. total team point is 16 pts - 18 pts max. Master rank is 8 - 9 pts, d4 is 5 - 6 pts, d3 is 7 pts, d2-d1 is 8 - 9 pts. Selen is master rank so that puts her 8 - 9 pts, Kuzuha and Kanae are both D3 so 7 points each.

>>12033781
This means that Eileen wins again by default.

>>12033760
kek

shill stream breaking 10K

Once again holobronies let the non-existent nijiniggers live in their head. POST NUMBERS OR GTFO.

10k on suisei collab with holostar and fbk. Pretty good i must say.

>>12033783
Just pull off the CR Cup trick of letting judges determine the points because not everyone plays like those in their rank.

>>12033835
Suisei breaking 10k isn't anything new tho. Collab should get close to 20k.

>12033829
(You)
Quite literally.
>numbers
Rushia 30k beat that. I BELEEB

>>12033835
Wow, Holostars actually inclining and I'm not saying it as a joke. Cover is pushing them hard for the concert at the end of this year.

>>12033857
Hal already does that.

In the next 5 minutes, there will be kuzuha "mogging" miko post and then another 5 minutes later, there will be rushia "mogging" kuzuha post. Why am I getting a dejavu?

>>12033881
homostar debuff. Fbk for example didnt manage to get the 10k on her last stream with oga

To bring this thread back to numbers, here is the unified Median of Peak CCV :: July 17, 2021 to October 25, 2021
Here is the format median_peak :: company :: author :: gen :: num_streams

>1) 32214 :: hololive :: Houshou Marine :: jp :: 32
>2) 31251 :: nijisanji :: Nijisanji :: jp :: 39
>3) 29064 :: hololive :: Usada Pekora :: jp :: 118
>4) 27633 :: nijisanji :: Kuzuha :: jp :: 98
>5) 23901 :: hololive :: Nakiri Ayame :: jp :: 11
>6) 23221 :: nijisanji :: Kenmochi Toya :: jp :: 19
>7) 20673 :: hololive :: Gawr Gura :: en :: 56
>8) 20243 :: hololive :: Sakura Miko :: jp :: 115
>9) 19165 :: hololive :: Hololive :: corp0 :: 15
>10) 17496 :: hololive :: Oozora Subaru :: jp :: 85
-- Top 10
>11) 17051 :: hololive :: Minato Aqua :: jp :: 35
>12) 15807 :: hololive :: Uruha Rushia :: jp :: 65
>13) 14331 :: hololive :: Murasaki Shion :: jp :: 25
>14) 13985 :: hololive :: Hoshimachi Suisei :: jp :: 41
>15) 13829 :: hololive :: Ouro Kuronii :: en :: 36
>16) 13241 :: hololive :: Inugami Korone :: jp :: 71
>17) 12656 :: hololive :: Amane Kanata :: jp :: 92
>18) 11783 :: nijisanji :: Tsukino Mito :: jp :: 36
>19) 11670 :: hololive :: Ninomae Inanis :: en :: 70
>20) 11590 :: hololive :: Shishiro Botan :: jp :: 86
>21) 11332 :: hololive :: Akai Haato :: jp :: 60
>22) 11304 :: nijisanji :: Kanae :: jp :: 130
>23) 11188 :: nijisanji :: Ange Katrina :: jp :: 32
>24) 11064 :: nijisanji :: Lize Helesta :: jp :: 40
>25) 10738 :: hololive :: Nanashi Mumei :: en :: 37
-- Top 25
>26) 10723 :: nijisanji :: Fuwa Minato :: jp :: 113
>27) 10696 :: hololive :: Ookami Mio :: jp :: 63
>28) 10114 :: nijisanji :: Ibrahim :: jp :: 94
>29) 9571 :: hololive :: Ceres Fauna :: en :: 46
>30) 9094 :: hololive :: Shirogane Noel :: jp :: 64
>31) 9065 :: hololive :: Shiranui Flare :: jp :: 96
>32) 8649 :: hololive :: Watson Amelia :: en :: 83
>33) 8614 :: hololive :: IRyS :: ensingers :: 71
>34) 8571 :: hololive :: Nekomata Okayu :: jp :: 71
>35) 8385 :: hololive :: Hakos Baelz :: en :: 54
>36) 8162 :: hololive :: Tsunomaki Watame :: jp :: 90
>37) 8089 :: hololive :: Yukihana Lamy :: jp :: 98
>38) 7960 :: nijisanji :: Yashiro Kizuku :: jp :: 67
>39) 7930 :: hololive :: Mori Calliope :: en :: 71
>40) 7921 :: hololive :: Momosuzu Nene :: jp :: 67
>41) 7861 :: hololive :: Shirakami Fubuki :: jp :: 139
>42) 7846 :: nijisanji :: Kagami Hayato :: jp :: 61
>43) 7726 :: nijisanji :: Inui Toko :: jp :: 25
>44) 6768 :: hololive :: Omaru Polka :: jp :: 82
>45) 6711 :: nijisanji :: Yuuki Chihiro :: jp :: 113
>46) 6455 :: nijisanji :: Sasaki Saku :: jp :: 38
>47) 6370 :: hololive :: Takanashi Kiara :: en :: 85
>48) 6140 :: nijisanji :: Mayuzumi Kai :: jp :: 48
>49) 6082 :: nijisanji :: Leos Vincent :: jp :: 97
>50) 6051 :: hololive :: Tokoyami Towa :: jp :: 103

>>12033914
You forgot
>unusually high expectations for Holo numbers

>>12033881
It's a shill stream, it rarely got high number. Also Roberu is there.

>>12033857
his rules since the start of vsaikyou

Wow red kuzuha is actually above kanae.

>>12034019
This thread is filled with Chumbuds, you can't expect them to know Japanese.

>>12033949
It's usually the opposite.

Mel 8k Mario Party collab

>>12034062
OH NO HOLOBROS, MIGO IS GETTING MATING PRESSED BY THE HOMO VAMPIRE.

>>12034062
I thought he was doing a tournament today?

>>12033939
>2) 31251 :: nijisanji :: Nijisanji :: jp :: 39
Actually how, I thought the tourist central galore always gets insane numbers

>>12034041
Kanae's not THAT strong without Kuzuha.
>>12034019
Rules can change. CR Cup didn't implement that method I mentioned until Bora in one of the Cups iirc because Ojiji said he couldn't ignore someone who had double hammer. So Bora was given Masters point despite being a Dia.

>>12034074
Even the low tier Holo can get this number....This is fucking strong

>>12033939
....
34/50 for Hololive.
...
In the top 10, only Niji main channel, Kuzuha and Toya.
Mito, Kanae, Ange, Lize for 7/25 spots.
...
...
...
I'll let you draw your own conclusions on how that bodes for Nijisanji.

>>12034097
>>12032933
Its pubg, which is no way as popular as it was a few years ago. Who's on KZH's team for this?

>>12034074
Is it multi pov?

>>12034108
no the rank points have always been there he wont change it. And its not CR where they can team up with pro players.

>>12034138
Its a collab. Speaking of, do we actually know what Kuzuha usually gets if its SOLO APEX?

>>12034159
Single, Mario party always single POV as far as I've seen.
It's still climbing too, will be breaking 10k in a bit.

>>12034166
It doesn't matter if there's pro players. I'm just saying he can do a PR Cup move and go like "actually this player should be worth this amount of points despite their rank" to make the Selen team I suggested work.

>Mel breaking 10K
Brings a tear to my numberfag eye.

Nijisanji numbers right now

>12k for shill stream with homo debuff
Not bad. Those dislikes though...

Strong set of streams for Hololive so far
>Matuli…

Please wake up!

>>12034219
King and peasants.
What would happen if Bora was a NijiJP instead?
>>12034236
Nothing burger. It'll be all gone after this stream kek.
As if dislikes are gonna do anything, comet already got her money

>>12034198
do you know how many high-ranked apex vtubers are out there? he doesn't want a repeat of high rank players stomping low level vtubers. see pic

>>12034236
Dude, that number of dislike is nowhere near the like though, don't make a mountain out of a molehill.

>>12034284
>What would happen if Bora was a NijiJP instead
Both Bora and Selen could easily be in some “NijiWorldGamers” unit with the rest of JP FPS and would fit right in, both in style and numberwise

>>12034219
>Holodex not picking up Kuzuha
Did they do something to him on the site? Or did admins finally realize he's a fake?

>Cooking simulator
Is this a debuff game for pegors?

NOT SO FAST
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-3yxfISwDQ

>>12034290
Do you even understand what I posted?
>"actually this player should be worth this amount of points despite their rank"
He can just say THOSE high-ranked apex vtubers should be worth what they ranks are.
>>12034236
No such thing as homo debuff. Incels can just rage and jerkoff. Just leave the Hololive fandom guys. WINNING SON always wins.

>>12034339
Kuzuha this is your chance!!!! pekor playing overplayed kusogee aaaaaaaaaaaaa

>>12034339
normal numbers, nothing special

>>12034304
It's still an order of magnitude greater than normal, both in terms of total and in terms of like/dislike ratio.

>>12034343
>>12034339
Its usually a debuff game but for pekora i think it may actually be good.

>>12033939
subaru cementing herself as one of the big girls lets go

>>12034339
well ogayu got 10k+ playing it the other day, so a slight buff?

>>12034236
>12k for shill stream with homo debuff
It's normal numbers stop Exaggerating this shit

>>12033939
So 6k median gets you top 50 chuuba.

Here is what should be the illustration in the article about
>box pushing
There is virtually no difference between Mel and the rest of these steamers with regards to what kind of audience she could get. If she puts herself out there more often and gets the support of her mates she can incline to the same average level of the rest.

>>12034373
>order of magnitude greater than normal
her solo after talk has 221 dislikes
this collab has 734 dislikes
same order of magnitude

Why don't Hololive push RoberuxSuisei like OreApo? Get that couple tete demographic. MiComet is more of a sibling-vibe anyway.

>>12034421
cherry pick harder, surely nobody can just scroll through her videos page on playboard to check

>>12034373
dislikes mean literally nothing you weapon.

>>12034394
Only taking in account Holo and Niji. There are some streamers outside of these two majors that could make it into that list and push a couple of them out of the Top50, namely
>Hal
and big maybe
>Patra
>GatchamanV

>>12034444
Stars don't exist to Hologirls unless absolutely needed. Shit bait.
>>12034373
>numberfagging dislikes
Can you not? It means nothing
>>12033939
Now I really want to put Vshojo in this just to see who's actually top 50 in the world. Alas.

>>12034444
>Why don't Hololive push RoberuxSuisei
Because they know who pays their bills at the end of the month.

>>12034421
1.3% vs 6.2%
a significant increase

>>12034469
It means there are some 700 or so mentally deficient retards who get mad because she has a male on her channel. Why so defensive anon?

>>12034444
>OreApo
What the fuck is that?

>>12034539
holobrony-kun...

>>12034508
>WATCH OUT WATCH OUT WATCH OUT!

>>12034416
She lost to a fucking babiniku yesterday. She will never be in the same league as the other Holos and no amount of box pushing will change that.

Hololive is winning again today right?

>>12034508
STOP THE COUNT!!

>>12034539
It shot up Hinano from VSPO. A coupling could shoot up Roberu. We've seen that male interaction doesn't affect Suisei's numbers many times already, with this being the most recent. Literally no downside.

>>12034508
rumao, he won't beat rushia. His content will never be as good as hers.

>>12034571
Roberu is winning, yes.

IIRC, Mel has ended her NND account for good. If she puts in more work into being Mel, there's a serious chance she can still incline.

Ganbatte Mel-chan!.

I'll kneel to Hololive's box pushing if Mel can get 7k average CCV

>>12034508
Bros i think he might win today
Rabbit is playing a shitty game already played countless times by other holo.

>>12034508
He's steadily gaining. If he clears 30k he could take today if Pekora just gets normal numbers from cooking simulator.

>>12034583
based falseflaggerchama

>>12034539
>Doesn't know OreApo
Kys EOP-kun

>>12034583
same anon here, sorry, I misspoke. I meant he will likely beat Rushia based on current progression.
Sorry for looking like I was falseflagging

>>12034612
to be fair you could have meant MC by that description

>>12034618
I'm not falseflagging, he won't do it.

>>12034626
Fuck off, Rushia is just better than this homo.

>>12034578
Don't be stupid, it's impossible. A long termed relationship will definitely kill Suisei's numbers across the board, and you'll have to get Suisei to agree with it to begin with.

>>12034578
>Literally no downside
stop dragging suisei to this homobeggar

>>12034612
Does it count as a collab vs solo?
>>12034658
It won't. Is Suisei losing subs right now? No. Is she losing views? No.

>>12034505
fbk - chink antis
suisei - unicorns, ansuta antis
im@s - VA scandal
pretty weak dislike game considering all the shit going on

Yeah, not gonna lie. Yesterday I was caught by surprise but a lightning won’t strike twice (or thrice now) in the same place
>THIS ONE DOESN’T SLIP
I’ve seen enough, you can call it now, Kuzuha wins the day

>26) Kuzuha (over 30k) - PUGB

>>12034578
Anon, do you want Roberu be murdered by Anemachi??
Don't underestimate a yandere siscon

>>12031561
Is the pic from Kakegurui?

>>12034603
7k is too high
that's basically lamy's number
4k is possible if she actually streams

>>12034710
nice try VOMScancer, but you can kill yourself now.

>>12034654
a FPS stream > a shitty soulless gacha stream

>>12034721
Yep

>>12034699
One time vs long termed
You bet your ass that her numbers will start dropping once you actually sail the ship.
>lose CCV
>lose subs (probably)
>dislike ratio
>lose SC
>lose album sales
And you say there's no downside.
>>12034710
Imposter, get out.

>>12034721
ch 72

>>12034710
If only Pekora plays a minecraft or other better game rather than cooking sim, she could easily dominate today
Such a shame

>>12034719
Nicememelolz

Better (very) late than never, here's yesterday's superchats, featuring the highest total of the month so far and someone I seriously never though would appear in a number thread chart

>>12034701
>fbk - chink antis
she got like 40 dislikes in her last stream

Kuzuha win, I shit on holo.
Rushia win, I shit on niji.
Simple as.

Holo already won the month so I don't care if Kuzuha wins the next 5 days in a row.

>>12034416
>>12034603
Mel just needs to stream more. She won't get great numbers but she can definitely improve just doing that. And not getting banned again, of course.

>>12034756
has any jps played smol ame before? its been a buff game for pretty much everyone

>>12034756
This, we need to convince her to play minecraft instead.

>>12034744
What indication is there that anything you listed will happen? Why do you think that will happen? Are you disliking her stream? Unsubbing from her?

>>12034776
me but with kneeling

>>12034771
>shartemis
what the fuck people are still giving this faggot money?

>>12034710
K-KING, I KNEEL PREEMPTIVELY TO HONOR YOUR UNAVOIDABLE VICTORY TODAY!

>>12034786
nta, but i am

this is his real competition, and its not looking that good

>>12034710
Honestly, it would be embarrassing if Kuzuha loses this. PUPG used to be his speciality before apesex and he has the tournament buff to boot.

>>12034780
I want Niji to play Smol Ame

>>12034774
They go all out when Fubuki is doing something sponsored or is in someone's elses channel. Suisei was getting spammed A LOT before her mods woke up, and it was the kind of spam that seems to always follow Fubuki.

>>12034555
>>12034619
oh wow this shit seems like a big deal huh? how's their number when they stream as OreApo? I hope they got high number

>>12034771
How...?
>>12034774
Chinks jump to any drama or controversy and add fuel to the fire. Not a lot but still a considerable amount.
>>12034786
And your assumptions are all delusional. Use common sense, shipfag

>>12034805
Nice try nijinigger, but Rushia can't lose.

Suisei album sold 1412 albums this week.
Total: 18687
566 digital album sales this week.

>>12034786
to be fair the best guess on why Aki isn't popular with nips is something similar

>>12034474
eh close enough to get the general idea.

>>12034780
Didn't Subaru play it before?
>>12034827
Now that's a special kind of leeching lmao

Hal won't get 10k isn't he?

>>12034903
she mentioned it on her morning zatsu before but i dont think she played it

Predictions on Peko's Numbers?
will she get around 25k+ or her minimum 20k

>>12034859
Aki isn't popular because she got sick shortly after debut and generally had badluck early in her career. Also anons from /jp/ leaving her once she started getting bigger.
>>12034830
At least, I've shown OreApo as an example of success. Suisei maintains her numbers, Roberu shoots up like Apollo.

>I N C L I N I N G
>N
>C
>L
>N
>I
>N
>G

>>12034444
ok you're pushing it. Forced couple shit is the worst kind of entertainment

>>12034859
As in Akirose? Has she collabed with a male before?

>>12035014
She's going to get 50k easily and DESTROY both the homo and Rushia.

>>12035020
Hololive is entirely different from OreApo, and here's the hard truth: Suisei does not give a shit about the Stars, and there's no way a forced ship would work out ESPECIALLY in Hololive.

Migo is doing MC.

https://youtu.be/SGXcBGQ-NmU

Shrine Maiden wants to give vampire another ass whooping i see
I think we know the winner today bros

>>12035056
Yes, there's that one dude who plays guitar on her cover streams

>>12034852
How much for the integrated sales?

>>12035072
A forced straight ship won't work.

>mikokura later tonight
will she score a hat trick for October?

>>12035090
>11am
Wont break 20k

>>12035090
Probably another SportFes-prep stream

>>12034852
The stock issue was real then, they surely lowballed it didn’t they?

>>12034771
Watame got $14k for her sololive aftertalk, why are Hoshiyomis so poor?

I come back to the thread to see people actually replying to a shipfaggot talking about forcing straight ships. What the fuck happened to you retards, there's streams happening with numbers on them.

>>12034578
Roberu's shown 0 significant growth from any of the women he's been shipped with, actually the women got boosted a bit (Kuku)

>>12035152
I apologize, in return I'll kneel not only once but TWICE to whoever takes the day

>>12035152
Tbf, it's indirectly related to numbers as in how a forced ship might affect it in the future.

>>12035106
2271 points

>>12035072
But WHY do you think that? Look at the pitiful number of dislikes. Look at the pathetic number of rage posts on this board.
>>12035173
Because the women's he's been shipped with are small too like Kuku or the ninja who's an oldie vtuber.

>>12035099
>10:00 PM
Love when we get actual proof that all the bait posts in this thread are from SEA monkeys

Pekora opened strong

>>12035266
Bruh, you were the only one that replied to that post unless you're samefagging.

>>12035237
Look. First of all, find a talent that's actually INTERESTED in this shipshit first. Throwing Suisei seems like an odd choice when there's a perfectly good candidate that would be ESTATIC to be paired with Roberu.
Anyways. NUMBERS.
I don't think Miko will break 30k again, unless Pekora ends midway through Miko's stream and boosts her. Also, I doubt Pekora breaks 30k on Cooking Simulator, but I could be wrong.

Calli’s in, how does that affect the numbers?

wait, kuzuha can't reach 30k+??

>>12034958
merise debuff

>>12035237
Simply appearing on the same stream as a guy she's already had a radio show with is nothing.
If a Hololive girl/guy pairing could get away with the shipbait Kamito does like fucking researching WEDDING RINGS for Hinano on stream, that will be one in a million of a day.
Then you can look at shit like how she got dislikes merely for having the STREAM of another male open on another window, shipperfags getting mad their woman was being unfaithful in her pretend relationship. You want that for Hololive...?

>>12035208
Any notion of pushing or forcing a ship in anyway is enough to completely dismiss the idea wholesale as it defeats the purpose of ships in the first place let alone bothering to state the obvious ruinous effect it would have on numbers. Proper ships are a much more interesting numberfag discussion but really difficult to quantify and mostly can only be looked at in retrospect.

>>12035363
Well, depends on what team she goes on, but she should add at least 4k to whatever team she's on.

>>12035237
Suisei is not the right person to actually form any ship because she doesn't do any sort of GFE. She doesn't like them. She doesn't even though SC readings. She said it herself that she doesn't get relationships so her suddenly being shipped to a dude will instantly smell as forced BS to prop up the low numbers dude. This will only make people upset about the situation and just not like them. Fans know she only collabs with dude for professional reasons or when there is another girl around.

>>12035363
Depends on what Miko does with the teams.

>>12035150
watame cried

>>12035150
Hoshiyomis bought her merch and CD instead.

>>12035356
Baelz...I don't like her accent. I'd rather watch two people I want to watch.
>>12035395
The dislikes aren't significant at all.

>>12035502
She does that everyday.

>>12035150
>Why are Hoshiyomis so poor
>sold 20k of her album.
lol.

>>12035363
Maybe a 5-10k boost to any team. Mori has never been the MC streamer skillwise

>12035542
>two people I want to watch
out you go, shipfag. Didn't even address the other points.

>>12035444
Anon, any girl can be GFE like how any guy can be BFE. For some Selen is far from GFE, for others who love that kind of girl, she's GFE.

>>12035463
the teams are even, they might pull mori to the commentators team to help with english for the en part

>>12035579
Anon gave a very good idea
>HalfTime show feat. Calli

>>12035569
You never addressed my points at all either. I asked what indication you had that things would go badly. I've shown it can work with stuff like OreApo at least. You've just said a bunch of shit with nothing to back it up. If you just want to hate, then be honest at least.

>>12035574
No.

>>12035574
Again. Suisei is not the right person because she isn't interested in any kind BS that you want push. Her fans will smell it from a mile away. It will fucking cringe everyone that actually watches her. We are talking about a girl that wants to be acknowledge for her talents and not some shipping BS

this is what happens when your eggs are all in the APEX basket.

>>12035621
Just go read fanfiction you fucking woman. There's an entire general for it.

Get the fuck out Vspofag with stupid shit

>>12035579
>even
No

>>12035706
E-Emperor…

>>12035666
I wanna add to what anon says but isn't one of Suisei's main appeal is being an actual idol and stuff.

>>12035706
disgusting, get that midget away from my sight

>>12035020
I don't like that excuse
>>12035056
Sure, a good few times. There's a gorilla too. I meant roommate shit though

>>12035708
Keep seething incel

>>12035621
>it can work
Maybe. But it must not be forced by fans

>>12035706
Funny because he used to do vsaiykou for PUBG.

>>12035542
Matsuri could probably be talked into doing it if you don't like Baelz.

>>12035778
well PUGB was the go to game back in the old days..

>>12035728
oh I only looked at the C teams. Then depends on what competition theyre going to do, to see if one team can have an extra. Ina mentioned wanting to do some squid games shit, wasnt clear if it was just a joke.

>>12035728
Well, if they slot her into white A, would she survive having to try and talk in JP for the entire SportsFes????

>>12035779
Matsuri's not a big enough draw to shoot someone up tho.
>>12035771
I'm not forcing it, I'm just saying it would be a good move for Hololive.

>>12034852
Any updates for Biography and Prism? Please???

Every time I have a chance to check in on Towa’s stream, they are sitting in a menu - is this why King hasnt hit 30k yet?

>>12035779
Choco, Matsuri, Aki, and Roboco are the only people that would be okay to do this kind of shipping BS. The astelxrobocoxchoco was fairly entertaining.

>>12035897
King sama dont look!!

>>12035832
But you all push that this is an idol group, clearly only non Holos benefit from het shipfagging. Not even ID can do it.

>>12035779
>Matsuri
Shipfaggot is trying to make the boys incline not make the girls decline into obscurity... Well. They're not mutually exclusive.

>>12035854
>The astelxrobocoxchoco was fairly entertaining.
It was, but there was no shipping tho. And for the duration the both of them bled their regular audience, reaching the all time low for both.

It was Astel’s fault, but not because he’s a boy (he’s a good boy) but because he is good at APEX and his POV was the most entertaining. Considering all voices were heard in all streams it was a no brainer.

>>12035897
Don't tell me a run-of-the-mill Horse gacha stream is really gonna take number one today...

>>12035854
Thats because it had a training arc storyline with it being Choco's first tourney and Astel having a non-Holostars team. Tourneys are all about team atmosphere/storylines like the Hamsters getting that kino ending win. It would not feel as good if they had won a bunch in scrims.

>>12035832
Who cares. A good ship can incline both parties like in your example.

Most unicorns left Matsuri since the hand incident and the fact that she keeps collabing with males on her own.

She's the safest bet if Hololive wants to force a straight ship

>>12035832
Ehhhhhh, there's too many unicorns by now in holofanbase. It's not just Hoshiyomis who would riot, practically every unicorn in each separate fanbase would seethe, since they would worry that their own oshi would be forced into a straight ship.

>>12035897
uh, wasn't he supposed to get an easy 40K+

>>12035925
The idol group part of Hololive is just a meme anyway.

>>12035995
GFE part isn't meme though

>>12035995
one thing is collabing with males, another is shipping them together

>>12035977
Matsuri just lost fans because of APEX. Her fanbase were not raised to like that shit so her suddenly loving it last year and continuously going deeper was just bad for them. it doesn't help that her teams aren't entertaining like Towa's.
>>12035990
Its PUBG not APEX. Look at Hal's numbers too.
>>12035977
>practically every unicorn
OMG A FEW HUNDRED PEOPLE WILL DISLIKE STUFF. WOW SUGOI.

So with Selen hitting masters that pretty much means it’s impossible for her to participate in tournaments with her skill level (she was 3 stacking with a pro and pred).

>>12035832
maybe, maybe not. Its not up to managers to force though, and if it came across as forced people would dislike it regardless and numbers would suffer.

>>12035851
Some people got disconnected when they started the second round so they had to restart.

>>12035995
No it isn't. The idol journey buff is in full force for Hololive.

>>12035977
If there is an unicorn hoshiyomi then he is an idiot since Suisei has been collabed with man since last year.

just stop replying to the guy. it is clear that he has no social intelligence to know why forced shipping idoltubers its a bad idea.

Stop replying to the shipfag already, he's derailing the thread
We might as well discuss shit like Hololive collabing with Jun or some other bullshit that'll never happen

>>12036093
SEAfag unicorn, you hate to see it.

>>12036093
Fucking hell
Not the other anons, but force ANYTHING is bad idea
Period

>>12036114
>Jun
Thats a whole other thing. His issue won't be because he's a dude but because his fanbase shits on vtubers in general. Its like xqc's fanbase, can't control them.

>>12033939
Hololive isn't that dominant, especially at the top. You'd think they'd have all the top 50 with the way the board talks but they only have 34, 9 more than half and half.

>>12036153
>his fanbase shits on vtubers
if that ever happens this board will blame Nijifags like usual

>>12035832
Retard. Read your own fucking words. "Good move for Hololive" means management forcing two people to a ship. Regardless if this what they want. Suisei will never fucking do this kind of shipping. She's not interested. She's focused in her singing and streaming career that does not involve devaluing herself by pretending she has feelings for a man. That girl actively asked to remove the jiggle physic on her boobs so that people will pay attention to her singing. Fuck off.

>>12036182
and this doesn't count all the Twitch vtubers

>>12036182
Nijisanji is using their male power now as seen with ROF MAO.

>>12036189
People who know who Jun are know his antiV fanbase. They infamously target Chii-chan.

Pekora is the strongest.

>>12035832
I bet you would have approved of TakaMori right at debit.

>>12036204
>But it must not be forced by fans
Retard. Fans are not management right? Take your own advice.

>>12036182
Well, 34 is more than half of their roster, no?

>>12036182
Why are you fucking here in numbers if you can't fucking do simple math.

>>12036229
Mindless shipping is whatever. I think this could be strat to incline the boys without much affect on the girls. The unicorns have little power. Hololive isn't small like pre-2020.

>>12036251
>forced by management
Does it make it any better you fucking swine

>>12036182
I mean....in the top 10 Niji has only 3 spots, one of which is their Main channel, and the other belonging to someone who doesn't stream often to get those numbers. The other is Kuzuha. Beyond those 3, everyone else is sub 15k, with the next highest being Mito at 11k.
That's kinda not so great a look, especially given where they were in relation to Hololive even a year ago.

>>12036253
It's only like 70% of their roster. I guess hololive isn't a ticket to the top 50.

>>12036290
No, the boys don't want to leech off the girls. They talked about this several times in streams.

That's why they're forging their own success by building connections outside of Hololive.

>>12036290

>mindless shipping is okay

ogey shipperschizo

>>12036327
still the better ticket

>>12033939
We should calculate the average value any Holome/Nijimem provides and see who has the most value above replacement. Sorta like WAR in baseball but with less voodoo.

>>12036343
This
People mostly talk about the girl, but honestly the boys are not into this whole shipping shits either
Most of them aren't the BFE type as well, if I remember correctly

>>12036182
>they only have 34
34 out of their 48 total members, including ALL the branches. Nijisanji has less while having over 3 times the amount of members.

>>12036320
>you can't count Kenmochi
>we can count ayame though

>>12035854
Holos don't need to whore themselves to live comfortably.
Maybe we can pair up Homostars to Niji females instead to appease their fans who've always been begging for more Holo Niji collabs.

>>12036327
If you remove ID 90% of JP and EN are there pretty much. They don’t have 50 talents to fill all those slots

>>12036327
Does your average chubba NEEDS to be top 50 to be successful even?

>>12036327
Meanwhile nijisanji is 9% of their roster.

nice thread you have here, numberschizos

>>12036446
They are already doing that

>>12036327
fun fact, hololive could never get a full top 50 because they don't even have 50 members

>>12036366
I said its whatever. I don't care for it. Kiara and Mori already had good numbers and exposure.

>>12036423
What, I never said you can't count him, I'm saying the same rarity buff that Ayame has also applies to Toya. If you removed both it'd look even WORSE for Niji.

>>12036182
>top 50
>next youll say that they dont have majority in the top 100
they barely have 50 vtubers at the first place anonchama, check the top 20.

>>12036543
Takamori got some excellent very popular fanart to the point Mamaloni has now done multiple MV for Hololive. Casual fans eat that stuff up

>>12036502
it's always funny to bully some nijikeks

>>12036565
Removing both the company channels and Ayame and Touya , only kuzuha will be there in top 20 from the Nijis right ?

I cannot believe we have a fucking schizoshipper here. This is a new low.

Toki no Sora at 6600 outside of Minecraft. Sora-chan, I kneel.

>>12036490
I think a better question is how do the talents that debuted in the last 2 years or so rank? It filters out pioneers like Choco, Roboco etc who laid the groundwork but who aren’t on top now. But for a new talent trying where to go the success of recent generations is more relevant.

>>12036423
We've been through this already he did not make the cut for enough streams to create an average that month. FAGGOT

>>12036669
It all started with that stupid oreapo thing..

>>12036682
It's a shill stream tho

>>12036662
Those will not change the percentages though. There is no point.

>>12036682
It’s been a bit delayed and taken a while but Sora, Mel and some of the other low tier Holos seem to be creeping up a bit. They’ll never be top tier but 4-5k ccv Holos are probably doing very well for themselves.

>>12036662
No.
Mito, Kanae, Ange and Lize would move up to 17th-20th, for 5/20, but Kuzuha would be the only one in the top 10.

>>12036748
hopefully Mel's halloween event will give her some good growth.

>>12036756
Fucking typo. I meant top 10 as well.

>>12036686
Dude. Just look at All the new gens that Niji and Holo has released this year. That will tell you who has more foothold CCV and SC wise.

>>12036804
Mel needs to stream consistently.

>>12036669
That better be a very dedicated (You)farmer, cause I don't want to believe that he unironically believe that a forced straight is going to increase Suisei's number.

>>12036804
It should give a good showing if nothing else. Quite a few stacked guests.

>>12036739
That is even more impressive since shills are infamous to do worse except when you are a fucking Pekora and Suise (apparently)

>>12036877
And he's gonna reply to you calling you out because he wanted the stars to incline instead
And the timeloop begins

>>12036848
Edengumi are killing it in SCs. HoloCuncil aren't even close.

uh oh kingbros don't look at the chart now.

>>12036877
No, their argument was that Suisei wouldn't be affected significantly but that it would boost Roberu...
Except the entire thing is stupid because neither party is interested in this stupid shipping shit and the fact that there were so many replies means they were successful at derailing the three or they're a genuine schizo-shipfag. I'm not sure which is worse.

>>12036950
Numbers for comparison? Not that you should compare JP to EN but why not.

>>12036950
and nijien suckass so it's canceling out edengumi momentary success

>>12037063
NijiEN does better than Council too in SCs.

>>12037072
and this is a flat out lie.
NUMBERS please.

>>12036982
>Ctrl+F "ship"
>45 result, mostly at the bottom
Yeah, definitely (You) farmer

>>12036950
Retard. They have been streaming since late July. Only Lauren doing exceptionally well compared to Irys who is close to their debut timeline. Leos is just above her by $2k

>>12037107
Well the whole discussion popped up during the stream. It wouldn't pop up before it.
>>12036940
This. The argument was Roberu goes up and Suisei doesn't suffer much since unicorns have no power.

>>12037183
>Suisei doesn't suffer much since unicorns have no power.
This is assuming unicorns are the only one that will get mad if they go through with the force ship

>>12036950
Lauren and no one else and even then he's slowed down a shittton. Debut + Apex gambling + bday + cover and he has nothing else.

>>12037183
Here's a case in point: Comment section for Calli and Rikka's collab song.

Jesus, so what is the current top streams for today anyway? Where's chart bro?

>>12037183
There's also those who see management fucking up and leaving, as well as those who just don't like forced ships since it's cringe.

There's also those who will see that Suisei is going back on her words and proclaim her a hypocrite.

There's so many ways to piss off the fanbase.

>>12037310

>>12037375
Rushia's normal fucking gacha stream took the day.
MY KNEES

>>12037441
It's not over yet, Kuzuha and Pekora are still going and Miko is playing minecraft later.

>>12037441
There's still Miko MC, it MIGHT make it past 30k. Really depends on how long Pekora intends to mess around in the kitchen.