/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

faggotry stays in the after-thread if you REALLY need to post it here instead of going to the dedicated board for it

suichan wa?

>>11935931
きょうもかわいい!

>>11935825

>>11935977

Polka's Husband is the fucking worst player i ever seen.

>>11936144
>Reine
This reminds me. Is Reine Investment Center killing himself?

>>11936227
the one dude I found in the first page looks like he just really likes Indogs, multicoin makes wallet like that possible.

>>11936155
I agree. He is a fucking retard.

>>11936144
>this one is actual terrorist shit too
>I am not going to translate it
>it is extremely ((specific))
>and it kinda slaps

>>11936155
Not only is he a garbage player, he's also a garbage human that can only shit up the thread. Polka's Husband killed the thread.

>>11936295
>spoiler
holup

>>11936295
all just clobbed together from burgers happily posting them on /wsg/

>>11936345
You misspelled mogu.

>>11936155
Hope he quits soon. Might have decent threads finally.

>People keep saying i killed the thread when it was mogu and his merryband of faggots
ogey

>>11936285
>>11936345
>>11936412
The samefag here couldn't be anymore obvious

Konnui love

>>11936487
>Anyone who doesn't like me is a samefag

>>11936487
just ignore the retard

>>11936487
all me

>>11936461
But you are part of the merryband of faggots, you faggot.

>>11936381
I was there the summer that album dropped. The ((soldiers)) it was meant to "scare" were unironically blasting this shit and groovin to it.

>new bread
>already this much shitposting
>polkafag
See you next adjustments

>>11937262
No one cares about you

>>11937372

>>11937501

>>11937691
>Konnui value fun
Always knew Konnui is the best of us

>>11936645
wrong thats me

>>11937753
forgot image becuase i'm retarded

>>11937777
cant be lying with those digits. guess its him.

>>11937777

>>11937691
>always susan
>another long susan today
>buying market
>sell mori
>post gura
>suisei soon
>hello kiara
>/nasfaqg/ enough edition
>need top
What could it all mean?

>dude complaining about thread quality and how how "certain" people are killing the thread is literally just pretending to be other posters like husband, samefagging his posts and just hates on other posters to start shit

Hello, whoever is running the "real oshiboard" can I see the numbers for lolicon award? I feel like I do not meet the requirements to be on it.

>>11937691

Reminder that oshicoiners pissed on the market

>>11938349
I laughed

>>11937691
>koronesuki already abayo
koronesuki...

SMILES CAN YOU PLEASE SPEND ANOTHER 10 MILLION ROLLING GACHA??!!! PLEASE PLEASE SMILES PLEASE I NEED TO CLIMB THE RANKS I BEG OF YOU DON'T OVERTAKE ME JUST SPEND THE MONEY ON GACHA PLEASE ONEGAI SUKI SUKI

>>11939307
but ure 5 mill above me

>>11938069
>nooo it cant be husband he's a good guy!!!
So we're saviourfagging that fag now? Next thing you'll tell me that wrestling is real and that Mori cares about hololive

>>11940066
But wrestling is real. What do you think it is, magic?

>>11940191
Magic is also real

>>11940204
SHUT THE FUCK UP RIGHT NOW
SAY IT IN RED YOU GIGAFAGGOT

Hi-
Just wanted to ask something. Do you guys really want a wedding mechanic?

>>11940304
>not a new ip
try again
Yes

>>11940304
I WILL MARRY KONNUI

Giving the "certain" guy attention is already a bad move, then next people will argue if he's really the one behind such posts or not.
I don't care if its really him or not but that's exactly what he wants, that guy loves attention be it the bad kind or good kind of attention. Remember that he took so much pride about his cock that he edited it thrice, even sent a cock edit litter link in Ina's supers.

I do remember him samefagging, plus sending an image as a proof that it's him.

>>11940304
Can we just have a 'bro' mechanic? Enough of the gay stuff

>>11940386
just say no homo before your marriage

>>11940333
>trips of three
well konnui doesnt even have a choice anymore. invite me to the marriage!

>>11940394
No, no I don't think I will.

>>11940333
No, I will marry Konnui!

>>11940420
>Weed get

>>11940304
No, it's a meme.

>>11940386
>He doesn't trade pantsu with his homies.

>>11940649
No I don't

when is cypher getting banned?

>>11942165
When you post your cocklet.

>>11942586
i'm a female, you fucking faggot

>>11943121
post tits or gtfo

>>11943134
honk??!!

>>11943134
Based honk

>>11943121
ywnbaw

>>11943134
honkchama...

>aggie killed the thread
oh nonono

>>11944379

I wonder if we should put it in the OP
"Don't try to keep the thread alive with shitposting which doesn't even concern the game - let the thread die, whoever wants to discuss something will make a new one"
We don't need to be up around the clock unless people want to share something or ask for advice. Autotraders are loaded up and running through to next adjustment though.

>>11944816
on the contrary, tomatoes.

>>11944931
TOMATO LOVE

>>11944816
Creating a thread an hour or two before adjustment would be nice, let it die when it needs to.
>>11944931
Sincerely, fuck tomatoes.
>>11944948
And go fuck yourself.

Which Oshi has the most based Oshiboard?

>>11944973
Imagine being a tomato hating faggot, stop being a kid and eat your fucking tomatoes

>>11945071
Pekora, obviously.

>>11945071
The oshi that actually runs a company in-game, obviously.

>>11940304
no

>That one shitcoin you have a huge stack of because you keep buying to lower your MPP
pic related for me

>>11946096
>He isn't multibuying to lower the MPP even further

>>11946096
it's the essence of the crab

>>11946096
for me it was mumei until yesterday

>>11946096
Baelz isn't even that much of a shitcoin.

>>11946881
shhhh

>>11940304
No

>>11946096

>Play stellaris.
>PC fans run normally.
>Open nasfaq market page.
>PC fans spin as fast as they can, loudly pleading for me to close the tab.

Remember that one /nasfaqg/ CAH deck the thread brainstormed a week ago?
Well, it's time to put it to use. We'll be playing the "Massive Decks" clone of Cards Against Humanity, link to the game is posted below. Cards used will be the base deck and the /nasfaqg/ deck. After the game is over, you'll get an opportunity to re-evaluate shitty cards and add new ones.

https://md.rereadgames.com/#L0G

The password is chocoball.

>>11946096
ive been thinking of dumping everything into baelz for a while now for if i want to go afk for a month, like this graph screams of "will spike one day for no reason"

>>11947227
https://decks.rereadgames.com/decks/N9G08
Here is the /nasfaqg/ deck in use, in case people wondered.
I'll be waiting for a healthy couple of anons to join before starting.

>>11947227
>>11947291
might be better to schedule this with a few days of advance, i would totally join

>>11947227
I'll be honest, I have never played CAH because I never had anyone to play it with, how do you play this?

>>11947150
bitcoin miner, unironically

>>11947332
you are drawn a hand of meme sentences, just mix them in the best way to answer a prompt question

>>11947324
Noted for the next time, if it happens. I'll notify you in advance for a precise time and date.
>>11947332
A 'black card' is randombly chosen, containing a prompt with a blank. Players then choose one of their 'white cards', filled with some type of response to fill the blank. One person is the "Card Czar", and they judge and pick whichever white card creates the funniest/best combination with the prompt. At the end of the round, you draw another 'white card'. Next round, the Card Czar changes, and the whole process repeats.
Whoever won the round gets 1 point, get 10 points and you win the game.

>>11947372
the only thing that makes sense to mine in a browser is monero

>>11947332
what all the other anons said. it's mad libs but with cards instead of free response

>>11947384
>>11947430
>>11947481
Sounds simple enough, I'll join and try playing it

We'll be starting once we hit 12 players, or in 6 minutes, whichever comes first.

>>11947515
alot of us are watching meme football right now

>>11939790
gap is already closed because you have way more coins than i do (16k more), just spend some money on gacha, you'll want to craft the new hats soon...

>>11947539
But /vt/ isn't playing

>>11947539
I'm actually also watching it

>>11947539
I know, but /jp/ and /vt/ isn't playing right now, right? I normally watch divegrass whenever a team I like is on.
We have 10 players already, which is why I said 12. When we schedule it the next time I'll try not to overlap with other events.

>>11940304
yes

I love Tower!

>>11940304
I wan marry honkchama

is there a list of all the hats in the game?

>>11948559
Ame's Hat
Aqua's Hat
Botan's Hat
Calliope's Hat
Fubuki's Hat
Gura's Hat
Haato's Hat
Ina's Ears
Ina's Hat
Kanata's Hat
Kiara's Hat
Marine's Goth Hat
Marine's Gyaru Hat
Marine's Hat
Matsuri's Hat
Miko's Hat
Mumei's Hat
Nene's Hat
Noel's Hat
Okayu's Hat
Pekora's Hat
Polka's Hat
Rushia's Bun
Shion's Hat
Sora's Hat
Suisei's Hat
Towa's Hat
Watame's Hat

>>11948559
inspect the 24th player on the leaderboard

Page 9...

>>11951353
>19:00:00

>>11951468
19th hour poster lives on through our hearts

gg ez

We desperately need more cards for the /nasfaq/ deck, since the base CAH game is kind of lame.

>>11952941
yeah, absolutely. could maybe expand it a bit outside of nasfaq

>>11951353
>19:00:00

At least make every coin a card

>>11953003
General /vt/ memes and Holo stuff, probably. If we can hit ~100 black cards and ~400 white cards, we'll be able to play it as a standalone, probably.

Hello!
I come with a useless report for you!

Here are the holders of ranks 20, 50, 100, and 250 and those immediately above and below them!

Remember to save some liquid for the rest of the week! You do not want to run out by tuesday!

>>11947150
Same here

Alright, so I've been giving the discussion we had the other day some thought and this is what I've arrived at
>The problem
As stated the other day, divs is the best and easiest playstyle, day trading might net more profit somehow, but it's tedious as fuck, and it's a very low profit
>The problem 2
day trading is cancer because you can only buy/sell 144 coins without hurting said profit
>Moving your assets and tax
So currently we do have a way to move more than 144 coins a day, the problem is that the taxes are waaay to fucking harsh, I think that you could remove taxes for multicoin SELLING and ONLY SELLING, without too much trouble, why? You might ask, well, selling is different from buying, normally when you sell you want to immediately buy back to profit from divs, the thing is that being limited to only selling 144 coins means jack shit for anyone moving around assets and capital, let people sell more without a drawback, if you consider that selling 288 Towa at $14k is better than holding her until divs (where she'd stabilize at $10k for example) then let the guy do it.
The problem with 144 selling (and buying back later) is that it's haunted by the divs lifestyle, they are so good that you WANT to buy back because the profit you made selling is very small, removing this limitation allows for riskier plays and for another type of playstyle to be born, you could have people who keep their divvy playstyle and people who take the riskier approach selling and moving a high amount of coins
>Why not doing for buys too?
The problem with killing taxes both ways is that it just becomes divs + this playstyle, you would just sell a lot buy a lot and go back to divs, I do think that maybe making it scale a bit lower could be a good idea (but that needs to be reviewed thoroughly)
>Example
Let's look at Moricoin, let's say she jumps 30% (from her current $12800 to $16800) and that you have 1000 of them, with the old system, let's say you sold 100 coins, taking $14k as the average price through the day you get a total of $1.400.000+ $2.217.040 (divs from 856 coins at $2590), meanwhile, not selling would give you $2.590.000, do the math and basically you gained $1.000.000, take away the 5% because you are going to re-invest that into divvies and you get $950.000, and sure, money is money, but that isn't going to help you climb ranks, $950.000 is fucking nothing looking at the leaderboard.
Now let's say there was no multicoin fee, you could go wild, do x3 and sell 300 (100), now you get $4.200.000, take away 5% and that's $3.990.00, you've made more than divs! and if you invest that wisely you've most certainly have surpassed the returns anyone who didn't sell would have gotten!
>Isn't this just the same but just selling more?
Now, while on paper it might look like that you need to consider that you can't just skip numbers like you did with divs and generate money passively, you would need to look at what return % the current coins are and if it's worth it to buy in or not, with just one coin it might not seem like much, but make that 10 coins and now you are talking about moving $30M or $40M a day + allows you to have a much higher control on shifting your assets around, hell you might not even be able to spend it all before divs day!
>Going back to multicoin (Buying)
This huge influx of money also means that you can now look at the multicoin and consider it an actual viable option instead of just suicide for retarded oshicoiners or a weapon for oshiwars, see a moon ahead, sell big, buy with taxes, and get huge returns that trump said taxes! I still think that lowering this might be good too but you need really look at that carefully to not fuck anything up, after all these two parts (no tax on sell and tax on buy) complement and limit each other quite nicely.
What I really like about this is the risk and reward that comes with it, if you want you can ignore this with no repercussions and keep on climbing through divs, or you could do some risky plays, that if they work, will launch you higher up or help you close the gap, but you also can get bogged if you make a wrong call.
And that's pretty much it, would love to hear your thought on the matter and whatever, also sorry in advance for the wall of text.
>attempt at TL:DR
>Divs too strong, daytrading shit timeloop
>Here's why killing multicoin selling taxes (ONLY SELLING) fixes day trading
>you get more money that offsets the loss from divs
>you are encouraged to make riskier plays
>the influx of money can make multicoin buying viable
>it doesn't force you to play this way, you can stick to divs life like usual (aka playing it safe)
and I think that's pretty much the spirit, if you could read it all I'd be a happy lad because I'm shit at doing summaries.

>>11956502
I agree, we need the Great Reset

>>11956574
That is not what I said...

>>11956502
reset it is

Like a bolt from the blue, it's time for the Numbers Review.

Here's the R.I.C.H. report for today:
>Total Shares in circulation amount to 4,131,838, a 1.62% increase from yesterday's volume
>Average shares per coin is 72,488. There are 26 coins above this average.
>Pekora currently has the highest volume, at 246,338 shares, or 5.96% of market volume.
>Civia currently has the lowest volume, at 8,901 shares, or 0.22% of market volume.

Top 5 Volume Increases (of 37):
>Fauna :: +8.1%
>HLuna :: +7.3%
>Aqua :: +6.3%
>Iofi :: +5.9%
>Shion & Aki :: +5.2%

Top 5 Volume Decreases (of 18):
>Mel :: -7.1%
>Melfissa :: -4.4%
>Mumei :: -4.3%
>IRyS :: -3.4%
>Moona :: -2.4%

2 coins (Ayamy, Rushia) had a net 0% change in volume today.
9 other coins (Towa, Flare, Ina'nis, Pekora, Risu, Haato, Kiara, Matsuri, Nachoneko) had a sub-1% change in volume today.


Here's the R.I.S.E. report for today:
>Starting Liquid is estimated at $84,426.30, which is a decrease of 11.87% from yesterday's estimate.
>Total Market Value for today is $41,672,813,948.47, which is a decrease of 11.23% from yesterday's Market Value.
>Average Value per Share is $10,085.78. A total of 17 coins are above this average.
>Pekora currently has the highest value, at $3,608,605,362.00 in total market value, or 8.66% of market value.
>Nabi currently has the lowest value, at $70,191,202.50 in total market value, or 0.17% of market value.

Top 5 Value Gains (of 14):
>Mumei :: +55.9%
>Pochimaru :: +9.9%
>Roboco :: +8.4%
>Choco :: +7.9%
>Ayamy :: +6.6%

Top 5 Value Losses (of 43):
>Risu :: -37.9%
>Amelia :: -35.2%
>Aqua :: -28.5%
>Suisei :: -27.2%
>Hololive :: -26.5%

19 coins had a sub-5% change in value today.


Here's the F.R.E.E. report for today:
>Today's Superchats totaled to $123,356,272, which is a decrease of 52.5% from yesterday's Superchats.
>The Broker made $106,632,321.27 today, a decrease of 21.01% from yesterday's salary.

Top 10 Superchat Increases (of 27):
>Aki :: +26.5%
>Reine :: +10.7%
>Mio :: +9.1%
>Amelia :: +7.6%
>Watame :: +6.1%
>Nachoneko :: +5.9%
>Aqua :: +5.8%
>Iofi :: +5.6%
>Calliope :: +5.1%
>Haato :: +4.9%

30 coins did not receive any Superchats today.

Today's Numbers Review brought to you by UNITY.

The Financial Underwriters of Comprehensive Knowledge would like to remind you to stay informed, shitpost responsibly, and FUD accurately.

>>11956502
just reducing the multicoin rates would be a nice change for people in the top 50

instead of removing multicoin tax, make so that transactions not involving money are taxed less
buy 5x coin a = 50% tax
trading 5 coin b for 6 coin a = 20% tax
unfortunately this would need to account for either fractional values of a share or a way to give out change which would be taxed at 50%

>>11956502
I'm one of the people who brought up the issue with the lack of selling, as such, I do agree with the entire post, but I don't think fees should be removed entirely. I think a notable reduction would be the better decision and see what impacts that may have before a 0% selling fee is implemented.
The biggest complaint I really have is the fact that not selling spikes can't really cause you to change positions or at least, not months down the line where anon's $600k profits finally add up, and I think this change can help curb that.

>>11956502
Where’s the web-server trading bot, honk? Just have it turn off automatically after every 24 hours. It would make daytrading less tedious.

>>11957389
>chocofren likes Moomay
What did he mean by this

Here's a chart referencing today's prices against their prices on the last day the market was "stable".
If your coin's in the blue, you should probably stop buying/selling.

>>11959073
I like everyone that isn't Veibae or Nina Kosaka, but I frequently will make the image I post for Numbers Review a high market performer for the day.

Warning: Large Image Ahead
How can it be the News Hour without HOUR NINETEEN to tell us?
>"I have dreamed a dream and now that dream is gone from me"

>>11959506
There's no such thing as a stable Towa price.
>>11958750
Following this up, the last time there was a decrease in volume of shares was >>10813286, and before that there was >>9852228 which was a marginal increase and after that there was >>9308714. Now I know, volume will always go up, simply because of the need to buy coins, but on mega green days like yesterday, usually due to Susan fuckery, the volume should not be increasing like it is at least, though there may issues with numbers due to time's of reporting from Numbers Review.

Bros, I can’t answer the captcha to make nasfaq acct……lend this gosling some help

>>11960628

>>11960215
You do know the entirety of Numbers Review going back to late June is archived in the OP, right? You don't have to specifically hunt down the posts in the archive.

You also missed a day where volume went down. There was a decrease of 1.29% of total shares on 9/27.

>>11960628
Do your reps, Gosling.

>>11961076
I control F'd "% decrease" to easily find the days with negative, I do know about that with Numbers Review, I guess I missed one though.

Sure, but can I interest you in a Mel Get Ready RTA?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXpK93IuDkA

>>11956502
the best part to all this being you're also tackling the coin amount epidemic

>>11958750
>I'm one of the people who brought up the issue with the lack of selling
What’s wrong with holding?

>>11966024
There's not any inherent issue with holding, in fact, it's a perfectly fine strategy. The problem is that when you hold instead of selling feel an impact of your actions.
I hate to constantly single M for this but he's admitted to it before, when Towa mooned like 40%, he only sold 20 when he had a pile of 1.2k+, but he'll probably sit in the top 20 for the next few months regardless. That's dumb, if the point of the game is to trade and move coins based off their performance, holding runs contrary to that. I'm fine with dividends being important and metacoins realistically, as that makes sense, as having money makes the game fun, but if you don't feasibly have to play the game with adjustments in buying and selling, it's pointless.
That's why I'm in favor of the multisell (buff?) making it so selling is more viable. See >>11706459 for what I mean on selling being near pointless.

>>11956502
I think what you say is a pretty good solution, I'm too dumb to think about the numbers and all that, but it checks out on words, hopefully someone with excel magic can run numbers to see if it breaks the system or anything (or even a dev himself show up and tell us if it would be possible)

>>11966352
you should feel an impact* mb on that typo a little confusing

>>11966024
Holding as your personal strategy is valid and neccessary to climb the board in the long run, simply because there is only so many coins you can buy during one week and you accumulate more dividends holding over several weeks or building up a portfolio over months.
The issue is simply that it's so meta, around 95% of players do it.
This leads to coins like Peko having volumes in the 250k range, which for one thing makes them less volatile overall, this in turn means you can easily buy/sell 144 in a given day without much of a price change. This happens to most coins right now, simply leading to ever-growing stockpiles of coins and here's the problem: The market is less affected by ANYTHING each day.
Look at Tampa for an extreme example of a play which will come into fruitition soon enough, or more precisely whenever Marine generates views again and spikes to absolute insanity in market value and divvies, that's nearly 2-3k coins added over 3-4 weeks which will contribute to a grand total of +80M in total market value if she stabilizes around 20k again, 20-30M of that added in the past weeks.
That's one rank he'd gain right now, maybe not even that.
People now claim the game got boring because cause and effect are growing more and more apart. What you start doing today might take effect in a month if you seriously found some magical play which nobody thought about (bull fucking shit), otherwise you're looking at aggressive and autistic daytrades. Not even doing your twitter reps and watching every single stream will make much of a dent anymore.

>>11956502
Seems like a great solution, I don't know if I'd remove all the tax right away but reducing it would definitely help a lot, I really like the idea of risk/ward because this would let you make actual yolo plays and make bank if you win, sounds fun as fuck, and as mikofag said, this also tackles on the fact that there's too many coins out there, hell it might even bring down the volume to a point where volatility matters with enough time, I rike it

>>11967387
This is basically the gist of it, implementing something to allow for more market fuckery by encouraging larger selling of coins.
The fact that the actions you take now you won't really feel the impact of especially at higher ranks until months down the line is the biggest issue with the game right now and the multisell buff helps you to have more control over your fate.
For reference, I legitimately mass multisold a bunch of coins and multibought a bunch of coins about a month ago for 6s of every coin on top of constantly multibuying Towa since then, and I'm still the same placement with 2 or 3 (i think, ame, jim, koishi) overtaking me in that time frame.

>>11967832
well the big question now is, how much would divvies/daily price changes have to change for that to actually becoming reality?
Let's look at this wallet because I know it the best. Current coin count is 38840 which means ~53M in divvies this week if the divs don't change at all from last week and are paid out today.
You can not predict weekly dividends so you diversify your portfolio. I'd have to be sure volatility in divvies is high enough that a temporary sell-off justifies the sale at all. I would happily part with 1000 peckers for instance, but I'd have ot re-invest those 15M somehow in a way that I get 2.5M in divvies either way. Right now, entirely possible - just buy holocoin, right?
Well, even holocoin isn't volatile enough for that to hold water with how exeptionally red it was today, I'd also have to sell for the whole week to not die in taxes and if the play is good enough I also won't be the only one doing it, which already diminishes profit to a point where I won't bother and instead just wait for the next round of divvies to accumulate.
Right now I autistically yolo into EN2 expecting a divvies "spike" over the next few months when they accumulate some subs and better prices, hopefully (Susan you WHORE). Maybe those Sanas who right now have their exceptionally fat tits weighing down my whole profile somehow make up for it? $388,117.76 in divvies for $12,076,849.75 paid is such a bad fucking play, but I do it anyways in the frantic hope it's rare enough to matter, while at the same time not being affected much at all, to the point that I can meme it into being the plan all along to crab myself just this thread: it actually isn't.

>>11968906
Mikofriend, you say too many words for a poor guy at 2 AM, I can't follow right now but from what I'm understanding, you are saying that since divs don't change/vary too much then the people who actually try to sell would have a bad time buying back in once the others caught on since they'll be multicoining too, thus moving the coins too much and fucking with the profits
Now going from the example the guy gave maybe you would just have to give up on buying back in and go full day trading, although that was with a 30% spike that he made more than divs (but that was also Mori coin which had some of the best divs)
You would have to find the balance between holding some liquid for plays with multicoin (buff), some for spending on divs coins and constantly checking % returns to see if it's worth it
So with that in mind maybe the coins volume problem won't be fixed but it at least should affect it a bit thanks to people deciding to dump a moon coin and since they are moving away from divs they'd reconsider investing back on that coin, effectively driving down the volume little by little

>>11969718
>2AM
St. Johns/Greenlandbro?!

>>11956502
You've gotten some peanut butter in your chocolate. Let's focus a bit more. Pardon the Reddit spacing.

Core Problem: Daytrading is not an appealing option for players due to players not being able to easily identify and overcome the tax differential in profits. Even if there were no adjustment or dividends, this would still be a problem.
>That sounds basically the same as what I said; why bother rewording it?
Isolating minute issues, no matter how connected to other issues they seem, helps to solve the problems with the whole. Introducing other complications makes the solution potentially more complicated than it needs to. In many cases, a simple solution at the exact right point of contention can cascade into the rest of the system falling into place. This is one of the many reasons I advocate that the current dividend system should be mostly left alone. In isolation, it's not doing anything wrong: other issues in the system are causing it to become a pain point.

The solution you present attempts to incentivize players to liquidate en masse more frequently by removing the multisell tax, with the intent that they be able to curry better profits by not having the tax involved, and thus be able to reinvest in stronger positions.
First, I'd like to congratulate you on inventing self-perpetuating inflation. Even if everything works exactly as you say it does (I'll get to it), what you are proposing is turning the passive inflation that we have right now into active inflation where players are incentivized to bloat the market.
Secondly, you've overlooked the intelligence of the masses. I know it seems like most players are fucking morons, and sometimes they are, but it's not hard to see green sell 5x. If you're below the point where selling 1 coin is less useful than holding for divs, you aren't going to sell 5x either, with or without taxes. Multisell Taxes just make a bad decision outright suicidally retarded. I would wager that this is on purpose to discourage people from doing exactly what you want them to do: selling lots and reinvesting en masse.

As a counter-suggestion, I propose my usual suggestion of "increase transactional volatility". Get more coins moving back to pre-adjustment faster during the day, muddied by players being unsure of whether to cut off trading and hold, or flip their transaction and go the other way. Right now we can go 12~20 hours before returning to the previous adjustment's value. That's a lot of time for a coin to stay stagnant, and it results in players feeling like there's no influence on the market. This change will improve player perception of the market, incentivize paying attention to coin movements throughout the day, but not exclude players that want to make adjustment plays and dividend plays almost exclusively.
As an additional measure, I propose an "Adjusted MPP" value be included in the coin's tooltip data, which includes the taxes. This will make it easier for players to identify when they're ACTUALLY profiting, and thus make it easier for daytrading to be done under the current system. This is a feature that can be replicated with personal chart traders, so if you've got one, mod it and tell me how this feature works, because I'm curious how much of this is an Awareness issue.

Let's try and gloss over that the ACTUAL core problem was, is, and will likely always be "I can't autism hard enough to beat Cypher". You may not think it, but your brain does.

>>11970169
I will not doxx myself
fuck

>>11970320
>As an additional measure, I propose an "Adjusted MPP" value be included in the coin's tooltip data, which includes the taxes. This will make it easier for players to identify when they're ACTUALLY profiting, and thus make it easier for daytrading to be done under the current system. This is a feature that can be replicated with personal chart traders, so if you've got one, mod it and tell me how this feature works, because I'm curious how much of this is an Awareness issue.
Elaborate.
I'd have no idea how to mod that in when I have multiple sessions of a coin going from 3x to 2x to 1x a day mudding up the now-worthless number I love to manipulate down using precisely that loophole.
Or do you just mean +5% tax?

>>11971093
Well, the 5% tax alone would be a good start, but tracking the multibuy taxes might be more difficult to just add in on a whim.

>>11970320
Not him, but I like the idea, but was in favor of still having a fee even if reduced, so I'll respond on the basis there's still a fee, though not an absurd one like it is now.

>self-perpetuating inflation
Yes, you are right that selling the coins will increase overall liquid in the market, and as such they will result in more market movement, however, wouldn't that just forcibly shift coins up/down faster like in your volatility argument later on top of the overbought mechanic stopping from too much inflation? I'm not really all too sure I see the supposed inflation you're talking about.
>Multisell 5x Green
Again, this is why I'm in favor of the reduced fee, to prevent completely mass selling with no repercussions, but encourages a greater amount of multiselling when compared to multibuying. I doubt the devs did the thing you mentioned and rather did it to maintain equality between the multicoin features, buying/selling though.

>volatility
I think this is legitimately fine as we're due for another volume adjustment since the last one was from Rushia which I think was 4 months ago now. However, my biggest issue with this, is that increasing volatility results in it being harder to sell your coins, and as such, more likely to entail holding which I think partially goes against the spirit of the game. Volatility changes unequally punishes selling when compared to buying due to the existence of dividends. There is no legitimate downside to possibly triggering an overbuy on Hololive/Gura/Pekora with increased purchasing as their dividends will forever be more solid than others, compare that with me being able to sell less of random Iofi purchase.
>MPP
I haven't cared or looked at MPP in months, do whatever you want with it.

>cypher
I do not think it is possible for a newfag to ever beat cypher if he continues playing even with the world's greatest autism. Cypher makes a top 100's entire net worth in dividends alone now.

>>11968906
Why is there a need to diversify your portfolio if the top performers every week are the same? Never understood this obsession with diversity on the thread

>>11971588
old habits die hard, others will make marginal profits off moons and they impacted the game heavily at the start. Look at mogu for an example to how it looks when you don't diversify, your rank is flipflopping with your coin. And you gimp yourself on plays you can make.

Hello i want more hats, need more hats i got every hat but i need more hats

>>11971854
mogu killed himself 5xing

>>11971859
>Hello i want more hats, need more hats i got every hat but i need more hats

with all these talks about volatility, does this mean that we can unleash coco-tier volatility once upon a time?

>>11975447
make it $10 per movement

>>11975506
>>11975447
yeah, that'll show'em
>50 players decide to Multibuy for a total of 150 coins per cycle
>+$1500 in the first 10 Minutes
>or ~50% if it's Aki
Imagine the Sells
>Big Event
>200 players get some of a coin
>-$2000 upon first cycle
Volatility in Nasfaq is a double-edged sword. Make it too low, and "too many" [definition needed] people profit from one movement, make it too high and the only times to play Nasfaq at all if you want daily guaranteed deals would be 9:05am EST, the question being how prices will develop if that were to be the case, at least the premise of the game would be completely circumvented.
This would lead to a kind of real-ish market scenario where one oshicoiner would maybe multibuy for several people to continue selling later on, it would be wildly different and I'd predict even less fun.

>>11976162
it will be fun and exciting for an hour

>>11976162
PND IS BACK BABY!

>>11976162
This would seamlessly lead into the discussion that we might want to consider looking for a way to have it both:
A real-life oriented order system where the ask and bid price are actual buy and sell orders by players BUT remember this would kill adjustments which arguably are the whole fucking point of the game.
If we demand this, we take the coin price completely off any real life values and dividends are the only way to see if your purchase performed well in real life, too.
Of course this would limit coins on the market to what's on the market right now, no more magic broker writing out IOUs endlessly, or in other words: Cypher would jew us all, either out of our money or out of our market share.

and yes, my vacation is over so I am stuck procrastinating here again. thought newer players might be interested in the old effortposts without having to scour the archives.

>>11977231
A suggestion to counter this is coin pools. But it would still end up with cypher jewing us all.

>>11977458
We'd need suggestions on what to base them on but yeah, if we want a soft progression from today's game it would be coin pools somehow dictated by a metric Poi gives us per day.
Which in turn can already be solved with volatility, in a sense.

>>11977458
coin pools just limits the moderates and the poor imo, if pools are introduced, there must be a big incentive to sell rather than forever holding more like removing divs perhaps

reset? reset.

>>11977945
its nearing a year of play, call it a "season" and keep the older leaderoards next to the current one let people keep their hats and a bonus golden coin (with coins with crowns on those who still held board of directors in the final scramble) of the one they oshid at the end

>>11977945
>>11978278
Stfu and gtfo

>>11977945
>>11978278
don't really see the point of a reset unless a new mechanic is introduced, resetting for the sake of a reset is a bad idea because it seems like people are against the idea of doing the same thing over again

>>11956502
So that's why I don't really move from ranks at all except if it's divie day. Well, I don't really play to gain ranks now but to get more coins of my main coins.
I've been moving my coins daily, changing it from those who dropped hard and selling it the day after to buy more of my main coins, I always just go back to my usual rank after selling those coins.
Maybe I should stop doing it while the tax for selling is still big or still exists and just go straight into buying more of my main coins instead

>>11978639
youre complaining you have no impetus to play cause you will never beat cypher
this solves both issues, it gives cypher a bright shiny medal permanently on the site, but gives everyone a fresh chance ot beat him

>>11967387
>Not even doing your twitter reps and watching every single stream will make much of a dent anymore.
Sadly, this is true. The market before requires you to constantly check twitter, vods, and even watch out for unprivated videos whereas you don't need to do anymore with our current market.

grugg buy all coins wait for profit

>>11978761
No it basically says fuck you and everything you did to climb the leaderboard to all the oldfags

>>11978761
>a bright shiny medal for a year of autism
yeah im botting next season

>>11978827
>>11978828
why is beating cyper your main goal anyway i thought the point of nasfaq was gruug see number go up, grug happy, hoard coins of your oshi to feel some connection to her

>>11978722
>changing it from those who dropped hard and selling it the day after
>I always just go back to my usual rank after selling those coins.
This has always been my playstyle since the start and could say the same. So it's not me doing something wrong, it's the market changing

>>11978885
it was always a "make your own goal" kind of game, oshiboard was added because time in market >>>>>>>>>> optimal play for 1-2 weeks and people already felt left out when my board was crowned by 60 coins. I buy those on several positions on the daily now.
The only ones who ever dominated the leaderboard are mogu, followed by yfp and then cypher, both instances were caused by the top oshicoining a.k.a. refusing to play optimally in favor of doing something else.

>>11978722
>>11979022
except that you already pay tax when you buy, not sell (at least 1x)
and JUST holding is not an option either, every Leaderboard bracket has an expected ROI target roughly related to coin count one needs to hit, exceptionally high coin counts in a bracket are ALWAYS tons of shitcoins/mamas, if someone is in a bracket
a) with a lower than average coin count
b) and his stacks not being in a spike
it would be an exceptional daytrader with tons of liquid, a rare sight.

>>11979120
uh-huh, so it's like that huh. I understand everything now. better to not do trading if doing it with normal coins since selling them wont net as much and it won't be worth holding them but instead, it's better doing it with the coins that are worth holding? Or should I just drop daytrading all together?

>words words words

Hello can gacha spendings be tied to one id rather than be seperated by username pls honk i beg you

>>11978885
i don't, what i mean by botting is the medal reward is so shit that i shouldn't have bothered playing and just bot the fuck up if im going to lose my networh every year

>>11968906
>Miko
>11.4%
Weak

>>11979272
Buying for selling: Every coin
Buying for holding past Divvies: only those which return at least 5% of their purchase price in divvies as a rule of thumb so they at least pay their own taxes in the first week.
As high as possible for long-term of course.

>>11979358
>Buying for selling: Every coin
That's what I've been doing... Maybe everyone is just doing the same too which results my eternal crabbing with the exceptions of dividends day when people zooms pass me

>>11979353
our crown is at 13% and was at 10% most of his time.
Place 2 (3) suicided to 100% only to now begin playing again at around 90%
Let's be real here, I can't yolocoin around 12% ROI when I can multicoin and there's much better coins around so I only buy my 35 daily or more under 10k while yesterday I pumped like 300 fucking Maririns.

>>11979484
let's see that wallet so I can take a look at the people around you, maybe that helps

>>11979570
Won't post wallet but 44 ~ 55

>>11979674
don't be shy.

>>11979570
While you at it also do a review on my wallet. Should be 61.

>>11979723
There's only one with aqua oshi in 44-55

>>11979522
Hey i was curious how my circular graph thingy looks like now, thanks!!!

On a side note can we get gacha spendings based on id pls

>>11979723
49

marin... come back....

>>11979674
my old home, you are surrounded by oshicoining oldfags doing memes.
Since I have a good guess who you are:
- the dudes around you have way higher coin counts in general, the two exceptions curiously holding a ton of calli and peko each. So you really see where this is going. Unless Akutan somehow blooms into a graceful high-tier coin your best bet to stop crabbing would be to haul money at those. You all have equal tons of Senchou, might try to invest here as well if it's cheap. The deals you made to buy the coins are average all around, for something you can start doing at the next convenience try re-investing Haato and Sana into higher-tier coins on discount.

いなちゃんと子作りしたい!
口内責めしてはぁはぁ言わせたい!
トロ顔をさせたい!

>>11979749
this right here is your main problem (right now).
14% of your networth is bound into a coin returning less than 1% weekly. Meanwhile, 10% are bound into a coin returning 2.5 times that amount. Your pekos cost you a third of what you spent on Ame and return around the same. The picture is as clear as the solution, you'll need to decrease those Ame% somehow. Which doesn't mean selling Ame, but you might want to aggressively counterweigh it with other coins up to at least Mori's amount.
Also I hope those Risu are being sold right now, much more to get from re-investing.

>>11980612
Pretty sure youre talking to shionyo based on >>11980141 rather than lemony. im pretty sure the latter is asleep right now aswell

>>11980612
do mine please, I've been crabbing at 53 for the past few months

>>11980827
yeah, after writing that up I also found that snippet of info, doesn't change the verdict much because he didn't change much since last time I rated his wallet. Apparently his love for shitcoins knows no bounds, now there's bad divvies queen Ayame in the mix as well lining up with all the Mamacoins weighing him down.
At 3000 coins more than him right now I make 24M more in divvies, just the oshi position makes for a nice comparison:
$6,588,318.83@$39,640,608.00 paid for my 4410 Mikochi vs.
$6,950,437.54@$73,996,564.70 paid for 8447 Shions.
At this deep an investment it's getting cucked by the game-tier of しょうがない, but this one you can easily improve right now by only selling Ayamy - would've been even better if that was on her recent spike - and re-investing in not even the lame meta-coins like calli, peko etc. but in simple gudcoins like Shuba, Luna, Kanata, Mr. Koro of which he owns zero each. Now would be the time, if they're planned for long-term profits it can only be a sale and the chance for the biggest profit with Ayamy just sailed by unless a fucking miracle happens, and every week you hold those it's like holding 3M in liquid.

>>11980877
you are the typical example of having bought the correct coins at unopportune times. Doesn't matter if it's $6,578,622.33@$39,754,287.00 paid for those Pekos, I do similar ROI with Mikochis.
That Balance tells me you are hesitant to go into good cheap coins or weren't here for around divvies when the market was quite populated with tons of good deals to abuse, your ROI% looks good but you could be much further into the coin count by now if you opened some other opportune positions. EN2 is a good one to look out for, even if their usual div% isn't that high, they are quite volatile still so even if some bags form here and there you can exchange them for each other or better coins sometimes.
All in all you have the right idea, all you need is to be more bold with investing into opportunities. In your case since you are highly selective of which coins to hold at all, consider multicoining 2x-3x depending on the deal.

>>11981240
Can you check 62? I wonder, if my situation has improved since last time.

>>11980792
Oshiwar during hyperinflation crippled my growth a lot but I've been trying to diversify my wallet and lower my oshi %. Thanks for the review anon

please don't encourage the mpp schizo, he can't be reasoned with

>>11981414
unironically it's getting worse, that's some heavyweight bag coin you got there.
I hope you are heavily investing in the cheap suiseis right now. Everything else looks fine, you just need more of everything for good prices, 9k Kanatan kinda hurts as well.

>>11981510
go ahead, write counter-reviews. I'm waiting. Use my wallet if you don't want to pick.

>>11981010
Ok do me again

probably the last time, its smiles btw

>>11981539
Figured as much. Thanks for the advice, though.

>>11981622
do the same thing you did before you became suicidal, that worked well. GMPP looks fine, you could easily crab where you are.
Those 12k Mikochi will haunt you in the long run unless her divvies go way up, $13,804,096.59@$110,987,368.80 is pretty sad, but about the best you can do right now I guess? I dunno man, at that price right now there's not much anyone could do

Finally the civilized talks about numbers during prime yuro hours are back

>>11981622
don't super 35m for a start

>>11982200
supers = credits so that's fine, his crippling gacha addiction and 5xing mikochi (?) killed him

>>11982259
he just like the coin

>>11982301
oshicoin responsibly

>>11982313
>oshicoin
>responsibly
Lol

>>11982349
until another faggot above me in rank suddenly oshicoins mikochi and the eternal cycle starts anew
I'll outlive them all if I have to.

>>11982480
when the big play is outliving them all, when will cypher have fun nasfaq?

>>11982517
I'd claim he's having fun collecting his oshicoin Dollar-chan, otherwise you'd see sudden influx of SOVL in his wallet

>>11982576
truly the strongest oshi

cucks

>WU
>Fap to GF
>Back to sleep
Hope the coin I invested on Saturday does great today

>>11983057
Kmr is here for your girls again

>>11981010
O-Ojou will moon when she streams!! If she streams...
I see, so it would be better to invest on Shuba, Luna, Mr. Koro and Kanata. I had them before but I always sell them to 0 after buying a 100 when they drop like what I do to all my other coins. I just own big stack of my other good coins from the usual boggening because I thought they would moon after but bogs more instead.
As for Ui and Nana... Still waiting for that 3D and Nana's supposed mooning 4 months ago...

>>11983464
but even Ui 3D will only last a day enabling you to sell 720 at most and at a huge loss at that

>>11983664
I'll zoom past others' ranks for a day!
But main reason is I just really love Ui's design, it's just so cute and EROI

>>11983942
It's a shame she had to be degraded into a shitcoin...

>>11984021
She could probably become a really good coin if she streams more but that's fine too since I can HOLD her for a really good price AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA IMAGINE

>>11983664
Take multicoin prices down by 3/4 and increase max multicoin to 20
NOW HONK NOW, I JUST REALISED HOW FINANCIALLY RUINED I AM

i beleb that one day, she will be a meta coin

adjustment time! cmon grab your friends!

crabnation

>>11984510
Ui is such a SEX UWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
https://files.catbox.moe/ndyo64.mp4

>>11984955
ui insulting me while using her feet

>>11984834
boring adjustment I guess. no susan, no gween

what did you tell the devs to "fix" this time?!

>>11938217
post wallet lolicon

post 'em

>>11985709

>>11985709

honkchama, can we have sort/filter on leaderboard?

>>11986055
filter for what?

>>11986175
A faggot filter to remove people like cypher, tako instruments, konnui...

>>11986175
oshi icon

>Let's save koronesuki
>Rushia barely goes up
>Eveeryone sells
What did they mean by this?

>>11986307
people gave up, she will never be saved

>>11986356
>she

>>11986356
>she
he's bread's husband... he gets to pound cunny

>>11986307
if everyone else is selling then I have to aswell!

>>11986531
I promised I would never sell rushia and I'm not about to break that promise now

>>11986381
>>11986438
only a woman will make that kind of deal anons

>>11986778
>woman
>holding up to deals that do not profit them

>>11977458
>1635148956281.jpg

Can I delete my superchat?

>>11985709
My bibi died.

>>11987232
>[Deleted]

>>11985309

>>11989825
>almost 19k Towa

Buy more booba and stop buying Towa.

>>11990314
This goes under the assumption Towa is a loli though, I understand she doesn't have a large chest but I don't think it warrants for me to place on the lolicon board.

>>11990378
Tower is already on the medium board.

>>11990927
Again, this is why I asked for the numbers for lolicon board as I wanted to see what numbers for who that's being multiplied to end up for me being on the lolicon board, I don't think Towa should be accounting for such a large amount, especially when all my other coin amounts are below 1k besides Towa.

>>11990378
>doesn't have a large chest
Towa is flat as a pancake.

I pulled your numbers used for determining which category each player falls under (highest is picked).
Booba: 0.004975037515626388
Medium: 0.007963274704070719
Pettan: 0.008262098895940328
There might be hope for you yet lolicon - buy some* premium medium coins. Polka, Aki and Aqua rate highly for that category.

* I don't know how many - I am too lazy to check.

>>11991098
>flat as a pancake
ogey. Towa's model and official art frequently portray her as small but not flat. There's also the case of rurudo's variable size statement, but that doesn't even matter really.

I honestly don't have anything against loli, but my issue is with the fact that when you look at my wallet, there is no reason you should presume "ah yes, this is a lolicon". No one would ever define Towa as a loli, and if they did, they're mentally deficient.

"Susan" bog is coming tomorrow. It's something that I usually trigger when i need a discount.

>>11991499

>>11991402

>>11991880
Small

>>11991905
Yes, but not flat as a pancake.

>>11991920
Still flat

>>11991402
All the numbers used were based on people rating booba sizes. They might have been mentally deficient since they voted that Towa had bigger boobs than Anya.

Anyway I am going on hiatus now. I hope the sheet doesn't break in the meantime.

>>11991985

>>11991985
>calling small chests flat
I swear massive anime tits have thrown off every person's sense of reason when they call small chests flat.
>>11992040
That's because of the rigger vs artist issue with Anya, where she was meant to have a small chest but ended up with a larger one.

>>11980612
Wrong guess but thanks for the tips!

>>11992867
lemony...

>>11992867
take them to heart if you want to crab like the oldfags

I miss shionbro

>>11993029
how he's literally in this thread

>>11992919
onyon...

hey dragonanon, if you're still here, analyze my wallet onegai.

>>11993228
buy my hat lemony!!

>>11993494
do you sell NEKO hats

>>11993752
i will roll 20 million $ for it, in the meantime i can sell you 5 akutan hats

Hello!
I come with an early report for you!

Here are the holders of ranks 20, 50, 100, and 250 and those immediately above and below them!

Remember to not pick up cone snails or blue ringed octopuses if you see them! Those animals are very venomous and can kill you!

>>11993862
>Remember to not pick up cone snails or blue ringed octopuses if you see them! Those animals are very venomous and can kill you!
What?

>>11994187
jeez anon just don't pick them up. He's trying to look out for you yaknow. least you could do is thank him for the heads up

>>11994187
can't you read? don't pick up cone sails or blue ringed octopuses, they're venomous and can kill you

>>11994187
If you handle these animals carelessly you could get stung or bitten by them. Cone snails and blue-ringed octopi are very venomous and being stung or bitten can easily lead to death without immediate medical attention.

>>11993318
You should be good, J**
at least as long as Sui stays a goodcoin, if that's over you might plummet to shit but thank god the pride of hololive will stay expensive

>>11995122

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6zn2NrbM7c
So there's actually Qur'an recitals

>>11993029
He was here before Shion's stream

graphs anon doko?

>>11995978
i need a graph that shows every cypher's trade since adjustment

>>11994232
>>11994236
>>11994275
Oh I see, thanks for the heads up

After much thinking and a lengthy discussion with my philosophy professor, I have come to the conclusion that I love Gura
Thank you for listening to my confession

>>11999528
Pedo

>>11999653
no, no, no, I hate kids. I love Gura though

>>11999528
>A lengthy discussion with my philosophy professor
You can't not elaborate on that. Elaborate.

>>11994187
kneel to him you ungrateful faggot

Top 3 buying/selling some coins

Standing on top of this building, I can see the city stretching over the horizon, awake and full of life even at this hour. I pull out my pocket watch to look at the hour.
"03:21"
It should start now.
The earth starts shaking. An already seen scene plays in front of me: the Haatotron emerging from the ground and ready to raze the city into ashes. How many times did I see this? And how many times have I tried to stop it all alone? It doesn't matter anyway; the final result is always the same. I can't stop it without him, no matter how hard I try.
Why did he have to go and leave me here, facing all of this alone? While I'm asking myself all these questions, the Haatotron already started his work of destruction. I can hear people screaming and crying everywhere as flames engulf entire buildings, painting the sky crimson red.
As the destruction of the city ensues, I look down at the blank page of a book. This clue is the only thing that could lead me to him. I don't know why or how, but I'm sure it will bring me to him. After all, if I weren't sure about this, I wouldn't have stolen it.

>>12002289
>lorepost

>>12002289
>Haatotron city destruction chapter
>image
Kino and based

>>12000516
Why does yfp trade so little coins compared to cypher and mofu?

>>12003499
If I recall, they tend to run more liquid on average than other Top 20 players.

>>12003499
because he doesn't need to sell tbf. cypher selling shit is just acquiring more of his oshi or botting

>>12002289
>an investigator will never write a story about you two
>an investigator will newer draw said story
AHHHHHHHHH PRIESTESS YOU NIGGER TELL ME HOW TO GET AN INVESTIGATOR TO DO THE SAME FOR ME

ah? earthquake?

>>12007103
What city?

>>12007103
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 02:00:01

>>12007177
Probably this one >>12002289

Where is the new bread?

I ate it; it's over

>>12009700
YOU FOOL

Nasfaq is dead

>>12010816
'no'

gago gura isn't real, she can't hurt me

mep

>pomu