/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

I will have my own kingdom.

>>11964868
Kinda based if you think about it

>>11964782
EN has absolute horseshit management.
Everyone except for the girls personal managers need to get axed.

If this is all she's doing, if it really takes up all her time to stop it happening, I forgive Omega for being a lazy chuunibyou.

So holoID can collab with NijiID but they can't collab with NijiEN as well (the Ollie-Selen collab).
Seems like Cover just blocks the EN branch of Niji for no reason

>>11964782
because nijiJP actually has audience whereas nijien audience just holoen audience

>>11964868
This fucker right here.

>>11964868
G..griffith?

>>11964868
Based Omega making nijileeches seethe

>>11964782
>holoEN is not allowed to collab with NijiEN
I wouldn't be surprised if that's the case, but still - citation needed, anon. Guesses and speculations aren't necessarily facts.

Omegatroon is a fucking /jp/ reject who is still mad that Nijifans bullied him to tears.

i don't know OP

>>11965177
everything my ass says is law. now dig in

>>11965091
basically this, there's literally 0 benefit for Holo to do this, and I say this as a nijifag

You need to be at least 1/5 of the division's lead chuuba's concurrent viewership to collab. In this case, Gura's.
NijiJP can stand with HoloJP, so collabs happen.
NijiID can stand with HoloID, so collabs happen.
Unofficial rule.

>>11965177
"not allowed" is probably too strong language but Cover management seems to discourage outside collabs with people the Holos have no pre-existent connections with based on how rare outside collabs are in comparison to every other vtuber company

>>11964782
The people they have permitted were either already in the scene as the current persona for a long time. Mainly yab free or yab magnets but have a track record of being professional collabs like gundou. NijiEN has litle to no clout to vet. Only Selen is doing her reps in showing she's actually a good collab professional collab partner outside of her own circle

>>11964782
>be nijiEN
>constantly attack hololive
>buy ads on hololive streams all the time for your shitty streams
>one of them even recently doxxed a holojp vtuber
>wonder why you get blacklisted from collabs
Gee I sure do wonder

>>11965177
Pray tell where am I to pull this proof from? Am I not allowed to infer or speculate that something is amiss because of past collabs (how long it took for EN to collab with VShojo) or based on previous events (how long it took for EN to be allowed to interact with JP). It doesn't take two brain cells to tell that something is happening behind the scenes and it seems to only affect EN, even though a lot of the previous blockades mentioned before have fallen now or been eased up.

>>11965091
I'm not sure on that. I do see some names in chat with Niji and Holo in their name but I don't see significant drops in views when one or the other pop up. Maybe an increase when it's dead hours for one or the other but nothing that shows that big of a boost.

>>11965683
Who did they dox?

>>11964782
oink oink

>>11965685
The only blockade they had was with Coco. Mori spilled that already. Kiara herself had talk show specifically to interview her Senpais anonchama. Only Gura was the only that were not collabing outside her gen because as far as her collab with her mama and umisea should already tell you, she doesn't do her jap reps. Atleast she's trying now for Shion. The fucking cunny

>>11965793
Coco

>>11965793
some graduated whore

https://streamable.com/3ykpbk
https://streamable.com/0h7m69
https://mobile.twitter.com/PomuRainpuff/status/1452472533891043329
https://twitter.com/takanashikiara/status/1452477416811728899

the JP market is already saturated and established, and Nijisanji and Hololive are close in numbers, at least in Japan, that's a whole different story for the EN market, the market is relatively new and is still growing, right now nijiEN has been a fucking fiasco, so there's nothing to gain for hololiveEN in a collab with nijiEN

>>11965876
Oh, so one of the ones that was no secret.

>>11966059
Most vtubers arent a secret if you do your reps, doesn't give you any merit to dox them.
Especially if you literally just joined a branch 10 days ago

>>11965031
>she
Kronii already leaked that omega is a fucking man

>>11965177
see >>11965928

>>11964782
Petra + Mumei
Elira + Kronii
Finana + Fauna
Pomu + Gura
Rosemi + Sana
Nina + IRyS
Enna & Millie + Kiara & Ina

>>11965091
This hasn't been the case for a while. The NijiEN views don't drop drastically when the holos are streaming, and they already have dedicated fans and clippers.

>>11965031
IRyS and Kronii already confirmed he is male

>>11964782
Why are you guys so desperate for a NijiEN Collab? It's not like the EN girls are desperate for one..maybe just Kiara but still not a big deal

>>11966018
but holoID can collab with nijiID even though HoloID is way bigger than nijiID and HoloID can't collab with NijiEN either

>>11965186
Omega's actually based is what you're telling me

>>11965928
I don't enjoy Kiara's content but that collab would have been nice to see.

>>11964782
> risking losing viewers for the rival company
> collabs would open holobros' eyes and make all of them watch nijisanji chuubas instead
nah

>>11965928
I bet Kiara wants to collab with Niji because all the girls there collab so well, but Hololive collabs feels so stiff.

>>11966183
I know about that, which was why I asked for citation since Kiara only mentioned that she asked for a collab with someone, and was turned down. Not only she didn't specifically mention Pomu / NijiEN there, she didn't even say it was HoloEN management who turned her request down either.

>>11966403
They already see them from all the ads nijisanji is buying and putting on live hololive streams

The more you beg, the harder it happens. So stop begging for collabs, have some dignity

>>11964868
Shut up and spread that bussy

>>11966225
I don't get any of these but Pomu + Gura makes no sense and Enna & Millie + Kiara and Ina would be putting one of the quietest Holos into a collab with three stacies.

>>11965683
"constantly attack"

fucking WHAT? the girls have had nothing but good to say about Hololive

>>11964868
>I used to rule the world

>>11966501
> from all the ads nijisanji is buying and putting on live hololive streams
wtf, that's dick move

>>11966639
Nope

Keep begging

Because a lot of the chuubas in JP are friendly as roommates. Can't say the same for EN. This goes beyond Holo and Niji as well. NijiJP does collabs with groups smaller than them, yet NijiEN hasn't collabed with Tsunderia, Prism, Phase or Cyberlive.

>>11966695
NTA, but that was only true until Nina joined.

>>11966712
don't believe this retard >>11966501
it's youtube putting them on vtuber related videos

>>11966225
Why the hell do you want to put my dorky Nephilim together with that leftist rrat spouting menhera?

>>11966478
Come on anon, it's simple deductive reasoning. Both sides have expressed interest in collabing for months, so it's easy to assume the collab she's talking about is with Pomu. On the issue of who blocked it, on one side you have a famously restrictive management which Kiara has complained about before, even back when she was trying to collab with Veibae, and Mori with Milky Queen, not to mention the whole Coco situation. On the other, you have Niji management which greenlit a collab with Vshojo even after the whole Gmod copyright shit and has allowed the girls to collab with other companies plenty of times, Finana's gonna be collabing with Shiki from Prism this week for example

>>11966965
>youtube puts ads for https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtFpa3LWA_U on live streams and only hololive streams magically and not a single other indie vtuber or ANY japanese vtuber including nijisanji ones
Whom the fuck are you trying to fool retard? Targeted ads have been a thing for at least 5 years now

>>11964782
Are you sure that wasn't NijiEN turning down Kiara's offer instead in order to avoid hurting their Chink market?

>>11967243
Doesn't really make sense seeing as they collab with HoloJP all the time.

>>11967220
Based retard

>>11966947
Selen has collabed with Re:Act and WACTOR
Also, picrel

>>11967220
Tags Anon, where the fuck else is Nijisanji going advertise it's audience on gun videos, maybe on some FGO or gatcha of the week? CoD, Assassins Creed? It only makes sense that Nijisanji's ads would show up on Vtuber videos on all levels because they want an audience that is looking for Vtubers.

>>11967053
Shhh

>>11967202
>Feesh collabing with Shiki
Based fish.

>>11967426
Thanks for confirming what I just said that they are buying ads for hololive streams
Fucktard

>>11964782
Management is retarded, that's why. They have incredible talents and a huge market at their disposal, but the faggots are too lazy to get permissions and will shoot down whatever the girls want to do. If it were up to management, HoloEN would be 100% Minecraft and Karaokes

>>11964782
all of this because fox mentioned Coco isn't it?

>>11964868
Does anyone have the Omgeatroon being bad at his job list? Fire this cunt already.

>>11967511
JUST for Hololive streams? You are below room temperature IQ. The ads would appear on ALL Vtuber's videos

>>11967202
Mori got her collab with MilkyQueen in the end, and we both know there is a very good reason for Holo management to blacklist Veibae after her shit, though. It's not like HoloEN has never collab'd with any VShojo member (outside of Vei) before.
Heck, if anything, >>11967243 would make as much sense as HoloEN management decided to block Pomu for no reason (I'd understand if Kiara wanted to collab with Nina, but Pomu?)

>>11966225
nigga just put names in a random order. none of these sound good

>>11967595
>The ads would appear on ALL Vtuber's videos
so far the proof is there that they appear on holos stream / video, if you had the non holo one you're free to post it here

Isn't Omega the manager only for the Council girls? Why is he being brought up here?

>>11967293
NijiJP and HoloJP, you meant. I don't remember any collab between NijiEN and HoloJP before. Different management teams (be it NijiEN / NijiJP or HoloEN / HoloJP) might have different principles.

>>11967595
>why yes they are indeed buying targeted ads
>n-no t-they're j-just buying it f-for the v-vtuber tags n-not hololive o-ones specifically h-haha...
Dumb fucking retard

Pomu has proven she'll leak personal information for views so if there's a shred of professionalism in EN management (I doubt it) they'll continue to forbid it.

Not sure why we need to have this thread daily when it's clearly HoloEN's questionable management.

>>11967750
No, he was hired at the start of EN, he was the first hire. He manages Ina as well as the general project as a whole. He has also been called Enma and AncientOnes.

He is responsible for most of the bad things that happen for EN.

>>11967750
Newfagchama he isn't even their manager, he's the producer in general for all of EN

>>11967750
Omega is not even a manager. He is a music director

>>11967750
He is HoloEN director, not just Council's manager. Kiara and he himself said he has been there since the beginning of HoloEN. I don't know how much power he has, though

>>11967906
Hololive Production is the company name you retard that has nothing to do with anything.

>>11967907
Any is too much, he's shit.

We need a list of timeloop threads.

>>11964782
NijiJP and HoloJP target 2 specific different audiences, and thus can both benefit from collabs.
NijiEN made the overly safe choice and simply doing Hololight, no risk, initial boost from getting a % of Hololive audience, but no room for growth. Thus, collabing isn't beneficial at all for Cover, understandably.
They could at last have included a few males in the first gens, they really bowed down to what Cover decided vtubing should be.

>>11967717
Tsunderia fags have talked about seeing Nijisanji ads in the past.

>>11967846
>>11967870
>>11967906
>>11967907
aight, thanks for clarifying

>>11968222
>Tsunderia fags
Those exist?

>>11967595
Look at this nijifag trying to weasel out their corpo's pathetic excuse of leeching.
These are the same people that screams for unity.
Always remember around nijiniggers, never relax.

>>11967957
still not a manager

>>11968203
Don't attach Mayu to this garbage post.

>>11968376
He has the same power as upper management, he's not a manager in name but he still takes most of the decision for the EN branch

>>11968313
The boogyman are in your own general anon. Idolfags and unicorns will destroy Hololive before a 'scary' Nijisanji collab would.

>>11968304
We try...

>>11968487
why would a music producer get to dictate what their talents get to do outside music?

Guaranteed it's because of Omega, HoloEN has barely collab'd outside Hololive.

>>11967846
>He
Isn't Enma confirmed a woman? If she's Enma, then she is not a he.
I thought Enma was different from Omegs

>>11967615
They didn't block Veibae. Vei backed out of the collab by herself after people blew her little drama up

>>11968512
yes just like how a gasoline would destroy a car, you fucking retard.
without those idolfags and unicorn, cover wouldn't even be this popular.
those clips that made holo popular were not made by a sane individual i tell you that

>>11968612
Anon he's not a music producer, he's the branch producer, we already know he's top management from his interview on the first year of EN

>>11965876
Who doxxed?

>>11968707
>Isn't Enma confirmed a woman?
There's no way to confirm this, even if you want to believe the talent's words, or else you would somehow have 3 female managers just for holoEN that somehow haven't fucked up everything

>>11968779
Apparently you know more than literally everyone else considering that Irys MV is the first time omega was ever mentioned

Why are there so many people pretending to care? The NijiEN threads are fine with it either way, HoloEN threads are fine with it either way, but then all of the sudden a bunch of fags come out of the woodwork suddenly caring.

>>11968777
Oh how the narrative keeps changing. Idolfags, Unicorns didn't build shit. Clippers brought in casual otaku who flooded into EN. Idolfags and unicorns are responsible for the restrictive policies that destroy EN's ability to do anything outside of Minecraft.

>>11965683
>buy ads on hololive streams
How fucking young do you have to be to not understand how ads work?

>>11969021
What I want to know is why are people on this board even seeing ads in the first place

>>11966964
How would you know if you don't watch them? Pomu recommends Hololive members all the time.

>>11968980
It's called a drama board for a reason.

>>11968954
Newfagchama, everyone knows omega is the producer from the interview, talents themselves confirm omega is top management, this isn't some schizo rumors that only circulate in this board, it's confirmed facts

>>11966964
Nina constantly attacks them?

>>11965072
Inb4 Moona will collab with Millie first lmao

HoloEN is a gilded cage.

>>11969006
HoloENs collab with males though...

Unicorns make up a very small part of the fanbase oustide of this board and many unicorns here are LARPs. A huge percentage of this board has never even been to /jp/, your fighting a very old battle here

>>11969101
>it was real in my head
and you have the nerve to call others schizos

>>11968980
There's nothing else to discuss.

>>11969119
Unfortunately Millie already burned the bridge with HoloID when Moona told her to audition for HoloID gen 2(or 3) and she would vouch for her
Kind of ironic that HoloID didnt get a nepotism hire but NijiEN did because of her

>>11968512
The same way how "idolfags and unicorns" "destroyed" 48/46 idols by making them some of JP's top female idol groups and selling million single a day for almost a decade and counting, right?
>>11968760
Damn, if they allowed Kiara to collab with Vei who shit-talked Hololive on stream with a bunch of nonsense and half-truths, how badly must they think of Pomu to block her?

>all this drama because the least watchable EN1 didn't get her way
I'm glad these collabs aren't happening. Some people just need to be told no. The less shitshows and drama the better.

>>11969324
that's a joke dumbass. She can't join holoID, she can't speak Bahasa so the group collabs will be very awkward

>>11969324
She can't speak Indo you fucking retard

>>11968304
Yeah, I'm watching Miori right now, and Meruru is my oshi. Though I watch plenty of Niji EN as well. Holo EN can do what they want, but due to that they will be missing out on all the other EN corpos linking up with one another. The longer it goes the harder it is to break into the vtuber mega community that has grown outside from their fortified walls. They ought to hope that viewers remain surface level and don't bother looking at anything beyond Holo.

>>11966448
she wants to collab with them to be the first one to do so, nothing more

just look at how she hasnt done any vshojo collabs since the nyanners one

>>11969324
>that HoloID didnt get a nepotism hire
ID3 will be Reine friends gen

>>11969480
>>11969454
So? Just learn it should take no time if she's so "
talented"

>>11969324
Then Enna couldn't join. What's the point in being a nepotism hire if it's just her?

>>11969324
"Burned the bridge" but they interacted quite a bit in twitter and so friendly too. And she still speaks with Moona offstream.

>>11969555
You first, EOP-kun

>>11966228
>hasn't been the case for a while
Dragoons are HoloEN watchers. Selen's viewership tanked when Holo started streaming

>>11966159
proof?

>>11969454
>>11969480
HoloID speaks more EN than indo
Nobody gives a shit and the vtubers there even less so. They fucking hate indogs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbyQaZZMDkM

>>11969600
You're not supposed to bring that up.

>>11969671
stop pushing your dumb narrative, Moona speaks Bahasa a lot in every stream especially in all ID collabs

>>11964868
Based tard-wrangler.

>>11969760
Thats nice for her, is that why she is hanging out with bolsheviks over her fellow countrymen?

>>11969490
Holo doesn't need the vtubing community in Japan and they don't need it in the west either. They've proven that the best method is to use others to build yourself up and then cut them all off so only you can benefit. It's cold, but this is just business.

>>11969671
>Hate Indogs
>First group song is in Indo
>Make a folk song medley who caters to Indonesian
>Self translate most of the time except Reine and her first song is in Indonesian
>Still have Indo viewers
Hope they keep going like this so stupid children won't littering in chat.

>>11969838
watch her birthday call in stream and say that again

>>11969838
There is no rules that she should play with only her countryman dumbass

>>11969671
Fuck I love watching this every time it comes up.

Has her chat started behaving themselves after that rant?

>>11969857
Every region is different, every place has its own introduction and growth. You cannot fully compare EN, ID, and JP.

>>11969964
Not once did I mention that she should only be speaking indonesian. The main reason for that rant Ollie is doing is because of those indogs trying to enforce that very thing. They've been harassing her manager for MONTHS and trying to force the ID girls to only do ID streams and only stream in ID prime times. both Moona and Ollie called the indogs out by the way, its just that Moona wasnt as mean as Ollie.

>>11970103
The ones who keeps pestering them about it either newfags or not even watch them so fuck them either way.

>>11970179
And where did i say that she should only speaks Indo? Or are you answering wrong anon?

>>11964782
NijiJP is as huge as HoloJP. NijiID at least provide some local fans for HoloID, (although Niji livers with some exception like Bobon has been losing to literal Indies and local companies), HoloID has nothing to lose because indogs liked Holo's "international prestige". NijiEn are midgets, way below Vshojo. HoloEn won't give them free publicity when Niji have nothing to offer. HoloID won't be able to collab with NijiEn either because they owe their prestige and fame from HoloEn.

>You can only collab if I gain something.
When dud this board get so soulless?

>>11964782
>collab with someone with 1/10 subs
why would they?

>>11970507
>owe their prestige and fame from HoloEN
Lmao the ones who keeps supporting ID the most is HoloJP.

>>11964868
Why do people keep claiming it's Omega when Omega is in charge of Council?
It's usually Gura and Kiara talking about the funs things that management won't allow them to do. If that's the case then the problem here would be Jenma since she manages them both and Ame.

>>11970179
imagine a holoEN that speaks Japanese 90% of the time, how would you feel?
Wait you fags shitted on Kiara for speaking too much Japanese at the start of her debut

>>11970179
It's a spam meme like please try saying Ara Ara or hi honey but with actual retards mixed in saying that they are proud of not knowing English and will never learn English.
https://youtu.be/RLiq-bAuYK4

>>11970759
Damn if only EN is not boosted by their privileged languange.

>>11965072
I guess this is has to do with NijiEN being an impending final yab, maybe we'll see holoID collab with NijiKR first before NijiEN since Bora has proven her branch credibility to Cover

>>11969671
If you see how Indonesians act on their streams/posts/twitter, they're a bunch of asocial fucks so it's understandable the girls cringe out over them.
>>11969873
>"I don't know how to run a business."

>>11970757
Omega is in charge of EN in general

>>11970757
Omega is in charge of the whole EN branch.

>>11969117
no. The only thing she's said about anything was that she enjoyed Nijisanji for being more free.

>>11970903
>>11970916
Huh interesting, never knew since she never officially stated anything as far as I know.

>>11970814
then stop pushing out ID branches

>>11971181
Why would you even care?

>>11969324
>>11969671
Keep coping, millieniggers and lyricafaggots

>>11965683
>buy ads on hololive streams all the time for your shitty streams

>>11969576
What's the problem with it? They can always collab together unless you're one of those tribalfags.

>>11969760
>Moona speaks Bahasa a lot in every stream
she speaks English a lot of the time, especially during free talk streams, and her most recent collab with Reine was almost fully in english

>>11971863
I watch her Minecraft streams and she speak Bahasa a lot

>>11970635
Corpo dick sucking that came from /v/.

>>11964868
Is this the motherfucker that blocked Coco from EN collabs?

>>11972008
Yes.

>>11971944
https://youtu.be/bDQUDy8VpPw
her most recent solo stream is almost fully in english, even her Moona Boona where she had to do some storytelling was in english (aside from the collab)

>>11970759
Damn fucking straight we did and we did it again with Baelz

>>11970757
>in charge of council
Wrong.

>>11964782
blame Omegafaggot, you aren't allowed to disrupt his lore

>>11968803
Nina

I can't wait for Kson to pull the rug

>>11972624
I can't believe Nina told everyone Coco/Kson's real name and address and she's still employed... what a black company.

>>11971542
Well at least you have a screenshot, which I cannot say about the people accusing Nijisanji

Omegaaaa focking dickhead. And he has even own avatar like who cares about him what a nuisance on twitter yapping and attention seeker.

>>11964782
[citation needed]

>>11964782
Who wants to see that anyways? Holofags and Nijifags hate eachother

>>11973775
See >>11965928

>>11970635
Nijis are really desperate to have their triple digit tubers leech off HoloEN.

>>11964782
Ask holoEN management, why ask it here?

>>11973835
I hate Nijifags, I don't hate Nijis. I wouldn't have any issue with that collab (wouldn't watch it either, though)

>>11973888
Retard

>>11973888
I only care about Kiara x Pomu collab. Kiara already gets the lowest in the branch so it wouldn't even be leeching. I want to see two girls sperging out over idolshit even if I don't care about it.

>>11974034
Keep begging for viewers.

>>11971542
>Posts a clip channel ad
Retardchaama what is this supposed to prove lol

>>11965024
After all this time it's certainty starting to look like EN's management is fucked. Every other branch is fine, collabs with indies and everyone all the time but EN has been isolated for a year now.

>>11964782
Why do you care? Do you have not enough collabs as it is? You need some awkward 1 on 1 collab between girls who don't know each other? I'd much rather have one more kino stream with people who already have established relations.

>>11975380
Kiara and Pomu have been talking to each other, both publicly and behind the scenes, for 5 months now.

>>11975412
Kiara just wants to be the first person to collab with NijiEN just like when Kiara said she was the first one to collab with Vshojo.

>>11964868
Does YAGOO have any authority to over-ride or veto any decision-making from Omega?

>>11975750
Omega isnt a manager so, there is nothing to override >>11968376

>>11964782
Why it have to be HoloEN? Why NijiEN don't try with HoloID or Holostar first?

>>11976503
Omega probably blocked it for the whole holopro

>>11976503
HoloEN is the one who wants the collab with NijiEN.

>>11975750
Yagoo doesn't keep track of stream management but more on the technical and business side of things. So he probably doesn't even know what's going on or fan feed back, particularly from the EN side.

>>11976503
Blame Kiara and Pomu for this whole mess

Which would cause more asshurt, NijiEN strikes a collab with HoloJP before HoloEN or is HoloEN scores a collab with NijiJP before NijiEN?

>>11975797
dude Omega is at the top of the EN branch

>>11969671
no! moona talking in bahasa indonesia most the time shut up
she better talking in her language but you do not watch her!

>>11976571
>>11976503
HoloEN is probably blocked from collabing with Holopro not just holoEN.
If that's not the case we would see a NijiEN-HoloID collab already

>>11976693
that's true though
https://youtu.be/9bP34QmHIKc

>>11968876
there is. this board just told me every staff and manager is a buff guy, what's your argument?

>>11971137
>

HoloID is always seen as the easiest branch to leech of by English and even japanese Nijifans.
I was kind of pro-unity, but this is already crossing the line

>>11977053
That's because their networking skills are crazy. They can cater to EOPs while also can be extended holoJP at some collabs, they even super close to holostars which is hard to expect from EN/JP because idolfags

>>11965928
>https://streamable.com/0h7m69
What was it?

>>11977297
A clip of Kiara singing a couple of lines from Diamond City Lights, from her Warioware stream.

I've heard from anonymous sources which may or may not exist that auditions will be opening soon. If their contracts permit it, there's no reason HoloMyth and Council can't apply.

i think deepdown Lazulight is what Kiara dreams of
she wants galpals, not just colleagues

>>11976557
The chicken causing trouble again

>>11977169
When I saw the comments of japanese Nijifans (translated) and they were targeting Ollie specifically, I felt disgusted. They are just treating her like a stepping stone. It's different than some comments here in /vt/ that says selen is a good collab partner for their shared apex autismo, which has some basis into it at least.
Ollie is someone who keep attracting "friends". I'm legitimately concerned about her.

>>11977549
lmao Ollie CCVs are shit, no one can leech off her

>>11964868
Sacrifice.

>>11977638
I wish. Say that to those nips.

>>11977549
Heh, she really should choose better "friends" she doesn't even interacting with her sisters anymore. Most of her collab partners looks like doesn't care about her. Save the ones from NijiID or Maha5.

>>11977549
Kek, then you weren't there for Ollie's rpr stream where he brought Selen up several times and she went quiet/pretended she didn't hear, then later on when he brought her up again she said Oh... yeah.
She doesn't want to play with her.

What's wrong with no collabs with shit talents?

>>11977802
Most of her collab partners are males anyways, seems she's trying to get a e-boyfriend than anything.

>>11977916
t.omega

>>11971137
>She

>>11977822
>She doesn't want to play with her.
more like she can't play with her

>>11977916
Kiara's part of Hololive whether you like it or not

>>11977549
>>11977822
The weird thing is that NijiEN fits more with the likes of Iofi with her otome tastes and Risu and her bizarre shitposting, the signs were there, hell even Moona are more likely to collab with NijiEN than Ollie

>>11977822
Considering ollie follows selen on twitter, it's doubtful. More so it's management not going to approve collabs, so if she talks about selen, her chat would keep pestering her on something she can't deliver.

>>11977822
Ouch.

>>11977822
I guess she rather play with Hada instead, Ollie loves NijiKR

>>11977792
what they think don't really matter.
NijiEN has no Jap fan anyway

>>11977549
Even the nips can tell Ollie is a naive tard lol

>>11978001
I regularly see jap comments in NijiEN chats

>>11977966
But she never interacts with Selen or the rest of NijiEN either unlike ID1 which actively tweets at NijiEN on twitter

>>11977802
This. Outside of Holos, Maha5 and NijiID are the most sincere
>>11977822
I'm not the one who wished for Ollie selen collabs. it's awkward for rpr to bring up other people like selen, Shibuya Hal and that VSPO girl and seeing Ollie barely able to respond. Rpr was talking about his interactions with Hal and Ollie going "oh yeah" then she later admitted not knowing who Hal is.
>>11977964
You wish. Moona and Ollie produces many clips already.
>>11977966
Makes sense
>>11978001
Even Elira and Petra?
>>11978060
Right? It's so well known.

>>11977822
Yet they've had friendly exchanges over Twitter even though there was zero need to interact with one another. Think they'll allow her to mention someone like Selen which is the Niji gaining the most traction? Though I'm glad ID has more flexibility than EN so at least the girls won't feel as caged.

>>11964868
HOLY BASED BASED BASED
this producer is super based I kneel Omega thankyou for keeping MYTH and COUNCIL safe from rummor spreading bitches like Nina also the Nijisissy fanbase ruined Aloe

>>11964868
yep. pretty much. came here to post omegatranny but u did it for me. fuck this nigger. fucking expat with no talent got put in position of power and is tripping

because you touch yourself at night

>>11978231
>You wish. Moona and Ollie produces many clips already.
WTF do you mean by that?

>>11964782
Have you heard of "catfights"?
Well, most who are taught by the American system often tend to initiate them, due to superiority complexes.
Not to mention that ever since ancient times, women's DNA has tribal instincts, aka, "Protect your own, disregard the alien".
It's in their nature basically.
Also there's the legal stuff so, no collabs for now.

>>11978502
I forgot to add "with Indies". They're very humble despite their position as number 1 and 2 of HoloID, so it's weird for these two to be tribalist. Lke some Anon have said it's probably the management (I think it's not ID or En/Omega, its higher manager in JP)

>>11978001
They wouldn't do JP chats if no JP people showed up.

>>11965024
>>11967514
Why? From a management standpoint they're doing amazing, absolutely nobody expected them to compete with the JPs but they are, so saying they're bad managers is objectively wrong. They gain nothing by doing collabs with 2views except risking yabs, so they'll only do it with people they can trust not sperging out like ironmouse, pikamee and milky if they really want to. Anyone mad at this is a jealous seething faggot demanding hololive to share their success with their 2views oshi for no good reason.

>>11978599
Ah I see but even without the block I just didn't find something to relate from Ollie with NijiEN to do the collab, hence why despite the push for Ollie-Selen APEX, she didn't find it appealing to her

>>11976547
Content is not Yagoo’s area of expertise and micromanaging collabs and overruling his producers and managers would generally be a terrible idea. That said Omega seems like someone who got lucky his talents blew up and who overestimated their own contribution to the branches success.

>>11970920
I remember when people tried to say Nina attacked Coco and that turned into a big nothing burger where it was just Nina stating the difficulties of doing a stream outside of your main language and just pointing out what was already an open secret.

>>11969179
>HoloENs collab with males though...
EN collabs with men less than HoloJP does at this point.
It's literally just Mori who did it a few times, and she can't compete with how often Matsuri, Towa or Fubuki do it.

>>11964782
You seriously going to use one of NijiJps top vtubers collabing with one of HoloJps lowest viewed vtubers as an example of allowing collabs? My guy, just look at Pekomiko. Cover straight up pulled up the ladder for their top girls when it comes to collabing with outsiders. And they're smart to do it, only so many gachikois to go around, better to keep the collabs in house where the money will go to the company which will also filter back to the girls in terms of concerts, new outfits, new songs, etc. The fact that you retards don't realize this makes me laugh.

>>11979571
>one of NijiJps top vtubers collabing with one of HoloJps lowest viewed vtubers

>>11979782
Still one of Niji's top vtubers. While Polka is, at best, a mid tier Holo in terms of views. Plus, Holo's get the EOP and seanig buff.

>>11979571
lol I'm sorry but both the current Polka and her previous incarnation is magnitude bigger than Honhima, and I'm not even a Niji-anti.
An example of low-tier Holo would be Roboco or Aki.

>>11979889
Might want to look at her previous life's views before talking out of your ass anon. HonHima is one of Niji's top girls, not a dude so she got the Niji debuff but Hima is comparable in views to Polka's past life.

>>11979862
3k average isn't top tier Niji, dumbass

>>11980044
Yes it is fag, face it, HonHima, respectively is closer to the top of the Niji hierarchy then Polka is too the top of the Holo hierarchy.

>>11980044
Also, literally look at her subs, and compare it to every other Niji out there. Even the bully panda doesn't have more subs then her.

>>11980078
Are you retarded? Furen, Ars, or Yorumi are all bigger than Hima.

>>11980184
HonHima literally has 100k more subs then Ars. You were saying?

>>11980184
You have to be trolling at this point, none of those girls have more subs or more views on their vods. Either that, or you're a straight up newfag that doesn't know who hima is.

>>11980221
You're one of those people who say that Ai is one of the top 3 most popular Vtubers aren't you? Let me ask you a question, is Matsuri bigger than Mito or IRyS?

>>11980293
Might want to look at the vod views for Ars or any of the other girls you lsited and compare them to Hima before you keep making dumbass comparisons anon.

>>11980293
Matsuri is bigger than both of them 10 years ago.

>>11980314
Hima: 3k CCV
Sasaki: 5k CCV
Sasaki is top tier, Hima isn't

>>11964782
Omegatranny. Nothing else. That power tripping fucktard want to be like gatekeep his absolute circlejerk where he can control everything. It's a typical Discord trannys mindset

>>11964868
Fuck this Discord tranny.

>>11979571
What the fuck is your point?
"uh yeah they collab with NijiJP but those Holos aren't popular enough so it doesn't count"?
Suisei is definitely one of the top Hololive members and seems to collab with Toko more than anyone in Hololive.
If she is "allowed" to do it then most of HoloEN especially Kiara should be able to do it too with your headcanon.

Holos collab with their friends. A lot of their friends are already in hololive. There's nothing wrong with keeping things in house. Nothing was lost.

>>11964868
Trannies and woke cretins destroy everything they touch. Also they are absolutely control freaks. Holo en is already dying.

>>11980314
No I will not compare by VOD views because that's a stupid fucking unreliable metric. In the first place, if you compare Yorumi and Hima when they collabed in Back 4 Blood, Yorumi has higher VOD views. And I don't see how you can make that argument with Ars when she regularly has more views than Hima. But still VOD views is a stupid argument, normally people talk about CCV

>>11964782
Here we go again... nijiENbeggars on the clock. Are (you) guys really that desperate to increse your relevancy? Go ask vshoujo to collab first, then holoID, and then you got to play with the big girls

>>11980453
Suisei is a straight up special case and more importantly, is a strong enough streamer where she won't get mogged by her competitors if she has an outside collab. Not the case with Kiara anon, Pomu would straight mog her and cause her to bleed even more viewers. Besides, HoloJp management has to bend the knee to vtubers like Suisei cause them graduating would hurt, no one cares if Kiara graduates, she doesn't have that leverage.

>>11980543
Lol, what is this cope. Half the time CCV views straight up disappear. VOD is more reliable.

>>11980692
Ok. Ars still has 10k+ more average views on her VODs than Hima. What's your point?

Remember when NijiJPs were trying to be our friends and Ars/Honma were welcoming us with open arms? NijiJPs hate us westerners now.

>>11980623
>if they're one of the less popular Holos it doesn't count
>if they're popular it doesn't count either because they're special and too strong
yeah ok

>>11980793
Just another day for nijicope

>>11980793
Cause right now HoloEn has only two gens. Once more gens debut and Kiara bleeds even more viewers and stops getting carried as hard by the HoloEn brand, they'll let her collab with others. Cover obviously doesn't Kiara fucking it up by sending those viewers to Pomu instead of other Holo girls.

NijiEN can't really collab with nijiJP though. To get the "big" chuubas like Mito or Kuzuha they need to pay a collab charge. NijiEN and JP aren't really the same company.

>>11980926
Burack compeni hate!

>>11980926
No way this is fucking real.

>>11980926
If it really is then god bless NijiID staffs for paying Mito for their anniv

>>11980993
>he trusts a holobrony
Selen did collab with Kanae

>>11968203
So, you don't like them for actually not being retarded with their English branch?

>>11980784
Ars is doing eigo streams again and Hima has never stopped putting her youtube descriptions in English as well as saying good morning in English though.

>>11980993
It's not retard. Selen literally collab with Kanae.

>>11970635
Holofags have always been soulless. They support shoving homos into a virtual ghetto so the girls wouldn't lose money. JP holofags actively caused the situation by outright harassing first gen homos on their debut. Imagine getting excited to join Hololive only to see fans hating you and disliking your debuts before even hearing your voice lol

>>11976642
>This is the nigger who didn't even bother replying to Coco messages on discord, outright ghosting her and not even saying "no"

>>11980926
True.
Selen had to fuck Kanae in order to collab twice with him. He's the second biggest Niji after all and quite expensive

>>11981366
>Selen got to fuck Kanae and play Apex with him.
Wtf. Selen is too powerful.

>>11981458
Always has been

>>11964868
fpbp
nijiniggers don't deserve anything from us

>>11964868
This is very shortsighted. If you limit your chuubas' collab circle just to a few select people they will eventually get bored and it will result in burn out and chuubas just clocking in and out to get their wage and this is where you actually lose viewers.
JP management is much more experienced than EN. Ollie collabs with literal 2views and still grows, not losing anything.

>>11982115
EOP is not like Japan. They are NPC thru and thru.

I wouldn't be surprised if the anon complaining about YouTube ads is actually omega. It's something he would do

>>11982156
You will never be Japanese.

>>11977822
Rats aside, Selen is probably the only person who would dominate Ollie's personality.

>>11982257
You will never be white

>>11980898
Wait did anyone ever mentioned that Cover is willing to debut EN3 in the near future tho?

>>11982452
No. Or at the very least not for an entire year.

>>11964782
They are allowed to though
People just don't want holos to collab with shitty nijien trash
I'd rather drop vtubers than watch a holo collab with someone like Nina

>>11982378
Notice how you typed this in a real language?
It’s because you’re not Japanese and never will be.

Funny how it's only niji fans who want these collabs so that their girls can leech off of holos
Holo fans don't want these

>>11966159
Omega is a stand in for multiple managers, she's not just one person

>>11982641
Stop spreading this shit. That’s conjecture you read on 4chan.

I know /vt/ is dumb as shit but cmon. He tweeted he was the first hire. And he doesn’t even fucking do anything how can you possibly think there’s more than one person on that account

I hate omega so fucking much.

>>11982491
Then what should Cover do if >>11982115 is right? Are their monopolized branding alone is sustainable for their fans to stay when their choices dwindled due to burnout breaks?

>>11984390
EOP fags leaving is always a plus, so Cover should do nothing.

>>11984433
I'm talking about holoEN to be specific and if EOPs left that means forcing them to be like Petra so idk if it's really gonna be good

>>11965288
>literally 0 benefit for Holo to do this
So the management needs actual business profit calculation to permit interactions with other vtubers (as supposed to, you know, just keep away the yabs)? That's horrid. For all I know if JPs want to interact with other chuubas they just do that most of the time.

>>11982115
If you're okay with an audience of cancerous twitch kids who cheer for male or eceleb collabs then yeah that's the way to go

>>11965031
>She

>>11982828
>And he doesn’t even fucking do anything
How different he is when compared to say A-chan for example, didn't she's been promoted to higher management in holoJP now?

>>11967583
>>11978342
>>11980528
cope, seethe, dilate

>>11978831
Pomu has far less yab potential than Ironmouse or Nyanners.

>>11987075
But she a holoreject tho

>>11987527
Reject because she had 0 streaming and content creation experience at the time of EN1 auditions, not because of any yabs.

>>11984390
Hire the concil... Look how gura and mori's mood has improved since the concil debuted. Kiara on the other hand, has been excluded from the benefits of having someone to interact with (on a personal and professional level) and you can see how she is being affected by loneliness. Frankly I find it extremely unethical to only allow talent to interact with those who have passed the company's selection process.

>>11980564
they did with Vwhores + Pika and it became a disater

>>11986085
>he said this as Hololive fan.