/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

no

yes

maybe

I don't know

Can you repeat the question?

Ask again later

No. Have you seen how the recent Niji EN is doing to appealing to an established market?
They'd have to have a standout talent that way outexcels any expectations, which I doubt. The Niji brand isn't going to carry them.

CAN YOU REPEAT THE QUESTION

>>11938451
Unless they roll a fucking god tier talent with their scouting, it's really fucking unlikely.

Given their difficulty with popularizing their recent female streamers, probably not

>>11938451
No, as it stands we have no reason to think they'd do better than the female talent. Who for the most part are much better than the numbers they are getting. In Japan Niji is the more normal and Holo the more otaku. Doesn't really work as well here as anime isn't normal, they'll just go watch normal streamers. Unless they strike gold at some boyfriend experience I don't see a niche for them or homostars.

Plus they'll be nepotism picks and from what I've seen there male friends are forgettable.

>>11938961
>Plus they'll be nepotism picks
source?

>>11939107
NijiEn bro. Like a bunch of em are all in Elira's friendgroup.

>>11938550
>>11938673
>YOU'RE NOT THE BOSS OF ME NOW

YOU'RE NOT THE BOSS OF ME NOW
YOU'RE NOT THE BOSS OF ME NOW
YOU'RE NOT THE BOSS OF ME NOW
AND YOU'RE NOT SO BIG

>>11938961
Everyone but Nina has connections to someone else in NijiEN and Enna in a Q&A confirmed that Elira is one of the talent scouts.

A Holo or Niji EN male branch will never work out

>>11939439
It'll work it just won't blow up. They'll hover around 1k viewers and never be able to break out of it.

>>11939107
At least two m*les from that one vtubing group that NijiEn keeps recruiting from are confirmed to be in.

>>11938451
EN market as a whole isn't ready for male vtubers, we're still in the phase where it's a niche and we expect all the girls to do nothing but play videogames. We're a couple steps behind the JP market where variety streamers and guys can do well.

>>11938451
considering the 3rd wave is already canibalizing their audience probably not unless this dudes are absolutely amazing and manage to get on the western fujo market or something which is somewhat unlikely. I expect niji EN males to have more or less holostars numbers after debut like 100-400 live on normal streams.

They'll do miles better than male EN indies if that's what you mean?

>>11938451
>Do you think nijisanji can acomplish anything?
No.
I'll wait for HolostarsEN

>>11938451
Only if they don't hire autistic white and Asian males. They need someone charismatic and entertaining, which is something they will never find among weebs.

>>11938451
No, the train has passed for that. I also don't trust NijiEN management having the best judgement.

Just waiting for the Raito EN to pop out.

>>11938451
They'll make them more common, but not significantly so. Some of the small companies like Phase Connect or Tsunderia might throw in one or two male chuubas. Hololive is run by prudes who hate men, so even if EN males are wildly successful, they won't try it.

>>11938451
No one else is willing to do it

>>11938961
Honestly the only way they or hololive will get a big boost now is for a massive EN male scout

>>11938451
>Do you think Nijisanji
no
they've proven themselves to be incompetent and their 3rd english gen is an entirely different league of embarrassment on its own

>>11938961
Hololive is pretty mainstream in Japan this days, at least as far as Vtubers go and it's not like nijisanji doesn't aim for nerd audience Tsukino Mito (niji Sora pretty much) made a whole career playing visual novels and doing other nerdy shit Kizuna AI is the only truly "mainstream" chuuba.

>>11939905
Bruh, they get less view because their fanbase is already fucking small, getting amazing entertainment not gonna get them anywhere as its already show that nijiEN talent is more entertaining that holoEN, holoEN gen 2 even had one of their member taking a break, so yeah, nijisanjiEN male Will likely stuck or go up as nijiEN fanbase really demand a male wave, this is the reason one of nijiID male even getting around 500-600 live view, he speak mostly English and nijiENfan that had no problem watching other branch come and watch him, he even had paypig after he got expose to nijiEN fanbase

Well t b h, we cant say anything yet as they still not here, and we talking about nijifan here, not Holofan how hate males,
Like, do they have chance to get a big niji audience? Probably as its already show that their fan demand males, do they have chance to get big audience from outside the fanbase? Maybe but we cant say anything before they come, ESL iknow don't shame me, i here to discuss

>>11939352
>Elira is one of the talent scouts.
There's no way this is a thing

>>11940556
>do they have chance to get big audience from outside the fanbase?
Honestly, I think they've got a lot of the same advantages as LazuLight did
A LOT of people were curious just to see the first big non-Holo corporate vtubers, and I think a similar amount (or more) will be very curious to see the first corporate males. It'll depend on them if they can pur those numbers to work, but novelty does a lot of the work early on.

>>11940814
It isn't, that anon doesn't understand jokes.

>>11940814
>>11940881
But... that's perfectly possible it's not like we didn't have nepotism hires in chuuba companies in the past and it tends to work well.

>>11939352
>Local autist can't into humor
Many such cases!

>>11940881
Wait, is the penguin also not actually the niece of mr nijisanji himself
ive been decieved
ill never forgive these liars

>>11940556
I hate how I agree with you but at the same time can't stand your post because it's the most obnoxious ESL writing I've seen in weeks.

>>11940881
Is it really a joke when Millie and Enna come along and shit on said joke

They will have a very dedicated borderline toxic mostly female fan community like holostars has. They will also get the shipper fag fans because holostars also has those retards watching them. I think they wont be taken seriously but this is nijisanji so maybe they stand a chance.

>>11940912
Them hiring people they know will work well with existing talent is real (and a thing pretty much everywhere, like it or not)
Elira going out to handpick all her friends and Anycolor bowing to her choices is a joke

>>11940834
as a nijisanji fan, i just hope "male wave" gets people who are entertaining, i don't care if they get a lot of views or not, i just want bros male vtuber, and I hope this male wave will get a handsome/cool/cute model

>>11940556
>its already show that nijiEN talent is more entertaining that holoEN
Nijifags eternally coping

>>11939697
Which group?

>>11940990
Well sorry, i skip grammar class and learn English from watching youtuber like PewDiePie

They'll be fine and at least one could be entertaining, but expect daily numberfag bait threads all over the board for about a month or so. Also expect Roberu-killer since they might switch it up from the usual Gura killer.

>>11941152
My opinion Will be a falseflag If I didn't know that holoEN collab was mostly always awkward and their content is Minecraft now which ngl make me less interesting on them now

>>11938451
god i hope so

>>11941232
>expect daily numberfag bait threads all over the board for about a month or so.
That happens anyway lol
>Also expect Roberu-killer since they might switch it up from the usual Gura killer
I hope there's a vaguely shark-ish boy who gets the biggest numbers of anyone in NijiEN, because I can't even imagine how those threads would go

>>11941185
Learn English from someone who speaks coherently like Northernlion instead

>>11941286
Just admit you dont watch holoEN, no need to embarass yourself with this godawful ESL

I'm curious why none of the startups I know of outside of the VERY small Amber Glow and I think MyHolo TV haven't done more male vtubers.

>>11941342
Man, i really Curious for the theme now, is Its gonna be fantasy again like all previous wave or Ita gonna be normal real world theme

>>11938451
The Western vtuber market is made up almost entirely of baizuo (thanks, Haato and Coco), who have no patience for male anything, even if they speak the same language.

I think the biggest problem is a lack of a talent pool. Most people who audition are going to be failed content creators and literal whos.
Any proven successful people won't sign up for this experiment and will continue streaming and/or making videos.
Males in the west are more successful doing normal facecam streams than niche VTuber stuff.
I don't expect amazing long term success, but they'll probably have a lot of initial interest due to being the first proper go at it in the west.
I think males have a lot more to prove since it's a new concept to most audiences. Women get to coast on CGDC and established anime tropes. Men don't have the same kinds of crutches. So it'll be a steep climb.

>>11941450
My guess is that they believe the Male Debuff is real, because they think Holos are the golden standard.

No, lmao. At best they'll spam vtubers and hope one sticks like the rest of NJ EN

>>11941450
For better or for worse, Hololive's idol model has been copied by others because of the huge success of Myth.
No one wants to rock the boat and try something different in case it backfires horribly

>>11941443
Bitch i come to this community from hololive and the only stream i watch fully is from holoEN before nijiEN born, i Mean yes i don't watch them everyday and mostly for collab and game i interesting with, but face the reality man, a solo awkward streamer vs a unity streamer? Like come on

Not happening. Only trannies and incels watch ENTubers.

>>11938451
If they can headhunt some popular Western e-celeb, streamer or youtuber. No one will watch former 2views no matter how good they are.

I think it would be a good idea to expand their recruitment search to non-vtubers, but I doubt they will

>>11941450
Most go for the audience that's already there instead of trying to create a new one. You can't necessarily blame them either since nobody wants to create a flop group that dies after a few months. Stuff like males has to come from the top before the bottom tries it.

>>11941790
>Looking for random nobody from western
Oh no oh no oh no no no

>>11941790
Technically they already did that.

>>11938451
if nijisanji or hololive decide to put out some english male chuubas, i hope we get one that isn't a twink or bishounen

>>11941450
Does myHolotv speak English? And what their avarage live view for male?

>>11941103
>Elira going out to handpick all her friends and Anycolor bowing to her choices is a joke
In the joke she controls everything sense sure. But right now it is 50% her friends, the continuing additions rather than a 1 or 2 buddies like most pull off make it stand out. A male or mixed gen has a high chance of featuring her friend despite already getting so many a gig.

Which means unless she has some amazing one I don't know about its unlike to set the world on fire.

>>11939352
It was obviously a joke you fucking idiot. Could she recommend someone? Maybe, as much as anyone else in LazuObsy. Did she recommend someone? We don't know. If they applied like nobodies did, they still have an impressive body of work to show for themselves.
>>11939697
Hanamori? Not a single recent male graduation/new hiatus for non health reasons. Someone being from there is possible but not "confirmed" or even very likely.

>>11941892
Pretty Barapilled of you.

>>11941919
I think Bae and Moon Jelly came from them and they both speak english, no clue on how the guys do.

>>11938451
This male project will die or live by the people. there is people interested in this, but how many?, I think this will have a slow start and only if people like this guys enough then word will start to spread and more people will flock in, but I dont think they will reach big numbers like the girls

>>11941948
Will this male wave launch next month? Nijisanji EN launches a wave every 3 months, maybe they're still in the monitoring/practicing stage right now, so its still to early to even discuss this

>>11942078
Yes. Pomu confirmed gen3 is coming next month

>>11941959
*based and barapilled

>>11941948
Could she recommend someone? Nigger six out of the current ten were from that friend group. And the joke she told on stream required knowledge of their past lives?
Fine, I'll accept that. Just, in return, when the male wave has two or three of her friends and one random can you post in the inevitable sticky that you're a fag that loves cock, please?

>>11940556
Holy shit, I could barely understand this. If this are the types of fans that NijiEN attracts then no wonder they're in the gutter.
>NijiEN? More like NijiESL! Kek

>>11942106
>next month
Source on this? Ethyria only came out this month, I doubt they'll release the boys in November but I'm willing to be proven wrong.

>>11942022
No surprise then, they come from "who" agency, just Curious if they have the same avarage as top nijiID male how speak English most of the time

>>11942155
Wave 4 consisting of indogs and flips lets fucking goooooo

>>11942173
Anon gen1 aka lazulight debuted 5 months ago
If anything whats more surprising is that they arent shitting out a gen each month

>>11941450
Guys have no reason not to stream as themselves, both weebs and non-weebs will watch normal guys. An anime avatar auto filters many, which is only made up for by it being a cute girl.

Then you have the issue of most female streamers touch on various levels of GFE, and holos idol aspect that differentiates vtubers from normal streamers has affected the whole thing.

>>11938451
they can't even make their current groups popular.

>>11942213
If they can speak good English, I don't mind, more better even, we don't have to be afraid of hidden SJW vtubers who slip into this wave

Can anyone actually name some good en male vtubers?

You'd think there'd be at least one popular by now. Not counting channel who basically use it as a rantsona.

>>11942472
Zen

>>11938521
>>11938479
>>11938526
>>11938534
>>11938550
>>11938673
>>11939249
>>11939269

>>11942472
Randon

>>11941342
Artemis hype

>>11942472
Bonnivier pranaja? He an nijiID but speak English most fo the time, He's still on vacation but he's fun to watch
For starter watch his birthday stream
https://youtu.be/-BJJHeJzPO0

>>11942240
Based Hololive poisoning the pool so male vtubers will always be a niche within a niche. They can't afford an EN Chronoir.

>>11942592
>EN
Seems to me like you are as disconnected to what that word means as is nijisanji

>>11942472
There's that orc guy, I don't watch him but he seemed okay from a video I saw of him.

>>11942472
Not really, the only one I can think of is a vsinger but there isn't really any male vtuber that can back themselves up imo. Sorry, cute girls only

>>11942651
I gave (you) a English speaking male vtuber, so, what the problem? Plus he a great starter for lite EN male vtuber, what? You rather watch retarded politics male vtuber on Twitch?

Only if they get a popular e-celeb or streamer to become a VTuber, I guess.

I can see faggots like Sykkuno wanting to give it a shot if it means increasing chances to collab with popular Niji girls or even convince a Holo collab.

But then again who's gonna be ballsy enough to give up their current streamer life to do a life of corporate vtubing

>>11942625
considering Mumei (a clinically diagnosed retard) made it in hololive they can pick any schizo from /vt/ and get positive results

>>11942897
if you really think a vt user would be a good vtuber please take a look at what happened with Koopa and Pippa. It's never a good idea to get a schizo from here

>>11938451
No. The western scene is stagnant and fully fixated on Hololive (+ Vshojo for the twitch users). Hololive exposure is automatic and immediate; Youtube's algorithm floods you with Hololive clips the moment you get curious about vtubers, even if you actively sought other companies or indies. Most people end up assuming that vtubing = Hololive, and Hololive = vtubing, and that everything else is store brand and low quality by default. Only a small fraction of the audience investigates deeper, and a lot of them still expect to find something just like Hololive. The rest of the industry has only them to fight over.

Nijisanji has a limited presence in the west, they don't have the power to popularize a thing. Nijisanji's male vtubers (or male vtubers of any other affiliation), even if they were stellar, would have to forge an audience organically over time. During this time, Cover could pull the rug from under them whenever they wanted just by releasing a Holostars EN branch, immediately validating male vtubers among the existing western scene.

>>11943000
What I'm saying is that comparing it to hololive is pointless as they will eat any turd presented to them,

>>11942078
We don't know. I personally think January is most likely, having early weeks or debut over the holiday season seems dumb.
>>11942138
Lots of indies know each other. Said group has Nijifans to this day, not surprising they would want to try out for Nijisanji. I would not be at all surprised if Elira had encouraged them to try out. They have plenty qualifications without being recommended, but she also could have recommended them. We don't know for sure and calling it based on a joke is stupid. Also there's no way she had an effect on Lazulight or Obsydia hires.
>required knowledge of their past lives
Enna and Millie have alluded to theirs many times starting from debut, it's not surprising coming from them.
No one in the group has exhibited signs of leaving for Niji at the moment so calling anyone confirmed is fucking stupid, see Petra, Nina, Selen, Finana. We can try speculating if we see indie male graduations. We don't know who applied. We don't know what the pool of candidates was; more than likely, it's some of the better indie male talent who aren't big. It's possible that it's just a bunch of nobodies from Twitch eternal 2view pool who we'll never notice, it's possible it's just Elira's friends. Btw I'm not posting in some shitcky for you.

>>11938451
Doub it, especially at the point we are right now, even if they were good, they would just get overshadowed hard by the girls and their armies of worshippers.

Why do you guys want male vtubers anyways? Just watch the hundreds of male 3D streamers out there. Vtubers, for better or for worse, have been cemented as a thing for weebs to have imaginary girlfriends.

>>11943270
we need male representation in the west, unironically. It's crazy that the west is focused only on females in the vtuber sphere. It's fucking sexist

>>11941806
Pretty much, even Nijisanji went that way with EN.

>>11943270
I don't want to see a real guy's oily face. I want an imaginary bro who gives the same vibes as the anime heroes I like and relate to. I want hot-blooded shounen battle vtubers, smart and calculating nerd vtubers, Hachiman vtubers, etc.

>>11943270
I burn out watching vtuber in 2020 because the only thing i watch is hololive, i can not stand watching only female group anymore, i want the bros and their chaos in nijiEN

>>11943466
You want EN Ex Albio?

>>11943270
It depends on a viewer's mindset. If you like how things are now then you'll never want guys around, but that will eventually halt progress and things will get samey. There is another step vtubing can take, but whether or not males becoming popular is that step is to be seen.

>>11942213
NOOOOOOOOO

>>11943002
Feel like they could have had a slightly easier time if they had debuted earlier since exciment, hype and expectation would have been a little lower I feel.

>>11941450
Everyone knows that EN girls work and they're a safe choice. Dudes are still too experimental.

>>11943270
2d males are cuter than 3d ones.

In this thread - lack of eliras gigantic breasts

>>11942472
If you actually look into it there's a couple somewhat popular indies, other than that it's subjective but you'll probably find someone branching off of the popular ones. I think the main issue is that it's still young in the west and the discussion surrounding it is a lot of "BFE male debuff only fujos and homos watch men twink model get cucked Kuzuha Kanae bro streamer". I heard that pre-Niji's male successes a decent bit of the JP side also believed male vtubers couldn't succeed. And to this day male vtubers are much smaller than female vtubers everywhere outside of Niji"manko"sanji. I think that if they get good streamers, NijiEN will inevitably end up with the biggest EN males next year. They probably won't blow up, but they have the wind on their side.

>>11941933
>But right now it is 50% her friends
Ehhhh, kind of
Rosemi knew her, but I don't know if they were super close. Afaik she was more friend-of-a-friend as indies (that friend being Pomu).
And either way, Her, Pomu and Rosemi all got in on the same audition, so it's not like she would've had any say there regardless. The main ones are Millie and Enna, and even then I think it was more Millie being a big indie herself and Enna coming along because they were close enough that they did a duo audition (along with her being a good utaite), with them having preexisting friends as a side bonus.
Really, I think people knowing each other is just that the indie scene (especially pre-HoloEN indies) was never that big on the top end and was super collab happy, so there's always a big chance people will have met before as indies.

>>11942138
>six out of the current ten
Elira. Pomu, Rosemi, Millie, Enna, ?
Who's the sixth?

no

>>11942235
Lazulight and Obsydia came from the same audition, them being close is an exception.

>>11939249
Based and redditpilled.

>>11938451
Maybe as an option for streamers, but not as far as I'm concerned. They'll just be the same as what's available now, just with a PNG instead of a face cam. Also, consider their options.

>they get some talentless rando weebs
cringe
>they get normal well adjusted individuals
boring
>they get popular entertainers
I didn't watch them before, I won't watch them now.
>they get spicy chubas who push the limits
Will be strategically me2'd with false accusations and be forced out by the kiwifarms and for-profit gossip rags masquerading as journalism.
>they get a bilingual chuuni based bro with an honorable personality, voice modulation that makes him sound like a robot, and a brave style avatar
The mask would eventually slip and he'd reveal himself to be a cynical piece of shit just like everyone else tainted by modern society, or he'd be canceled for being too wholesome for this sinful internet.

There is literally nothing they can do that would succeed at winning me over in the long run. My tastes are distinctly "80s boomer who claps hands any time red and blue lasers show up on screen."

>>11941755
HoloCouncil already provides those unity contents. HoloEN has done multiple collab with the other branches, both on-stream and off-stream collabs. NijiEN can't offer anything much different from HoloEN and VShoujo, and it gets harder since the NijiEN management gets stricter lately.

>>11941919
yeah they speak english, Virion is the male, he's quite good, gets about a solid 50 average

>>11941806
>You can't necessarily blame them either since nobody wants to create a flop group that dies after a few months.
>says this when the KR branch exists

i hope they fuck up and drop a spicy gamer word on their debut

>>11943488
How much have you spent in 2020? It doesn't seem justifiable to a release a wave to temporarily satisfy fence sitters, who won't commit any financial support to maintain the program.

>>11938451
If they manage to get a non-ESL version of Kamiya Jew, that might break through the market

There's a lot of male utaites/vsingers with incredible talent that could easily try out for wave 4. I wouldn't be surprised if any of them had a connection to the former utaites that are in NijisanjiEN right now.

>>11945388
Thats just one anon, depending on who they get the female otaku who seem to be the ones that mostly buy merch when it comes to male vtubers will open their wallets if they enjoy the talents.

>>11938451
Honestly, I think it'll help even if it doesn't.
Currently no real EN company has a male branch for some reason, some of them like Tsunderia actually is open to men and have encouraged men to apply but were flooded with female applicants over males.

Niji is big enough that people will at least give them a chance unlike the 2views on twitch. They also have enough experience to know how to push men.
I don't think we'll get a Kuzuha or anything. But I think we'll get a few 1-2k view males and that'll encourage more males.

>>11945837
Shroud gets in Nijisanji LET'S GOOOOOO

>>11945837
i really do hope male vtubers get more popular

>>11943000
What happened with koopa?

>>11945837
It's funny how close this is to the pre-Niji JP scene too
...except Niji's first male was a failure, and would you look at that it worked out anyway. Which I have to imagine is how this'll go even if everyone hates all of Wave 4 (which I doubt will happen).
I'd say you'd think people would learn from the JP scene having the EXACT same "there's just no market for male vtubers" attitude, or even people going "there's just no market for EN vtubers" pre-HoloEN, but I know most people on this board are too new to remember that.

I still think people are underestimating how hungry people are for male vtubers. I think their debuts are gonna attract people specifically for curiosity sake. All they have to do is make a good impression with their debuts.

No. Why watch a male vtuber when you can just watch the infinite streamers on twitch?

The only way I can see this wave succeeding is if ichikara waives the collab fee with the established niji JP livers

>>11946268
One day someone will believe you, fee anon

>>11946198
>implying
nice try holokid.
there WERE male vtubers pre-nijisanji that were very popular. baacharu was kicking it with siro before sora was even born.

>>11946356
There are male EN vtubers already too. Doesn't change that the scene was much more female focused, much like the current EN scene.
Surprised you didn't mention Noja Loli desu, you'd think him being in the 4 kings would be more notable. Guess even you can tell babiniku are different.

>>11946493
I thought about it, but if we're speaking male vtubers then babis are only halfway there. they still bank on the female design.

>>11946198
>Niji's first male was a failure
I think a full male wave for the first one might be for the best because of this kind of thing. Doing 50/50 at the beginning might have split them up, but debuting only one might have put him in a weird spot. Many people would be disappointed because no one can live up to ten different ideas of a good male vtuber at once. It gives more male-male dynamics (no need to worry about people taking something weird because a woman is involved) and more different personalities and variety at once. And I doubt Nijisanji can scoop up 3-4 Hajikis at once, but you never know...

>>11946679
What happens if the next one after this wave is also a full-male wave like VΔLZ?

>>11946850
They'd have to find an EN Kaida, EN Genzuki and EN Nagao which is gonna be exceedingly difficult to find.

>>11938451
>>11946850
>>11946969
https://youtu.be/YeslhbFsxc4

>>11947086
>niji females
>And I BIRTHED you from my VAGINA!
>I could literally feel your little fingers clamp around my vulva as I push your body out from my UTERUS!
>Your thick penguin skull forcing my pussy lips wide open as it forces it way out of my VAGINA and into nijisanji!
yeah... about that.

>>11947086
>Half boy
>Aki
>Loves your brothers
>Akina
I laughed

>>11947086
Why is it so fitting that Kaida is the one singing?

>>11947210
I... don't really get what you are trying to say here...

>>11947086
Kenmochi has a thing for feet...??

They will all be hafu canadians

I doubt EN NijiMales will ever come close to the popularity that the nijifans on this board expects.

>>11945837
>>11946198
Feels like you guys have just started to ignore the flub gen "gura killers" 3. That was hyped up to no end but showed the niji audience being spread thin. People already have endless options for male streamers, the whole but they're anime doesn't have the same draw as it does with girls.

>>11948354
I like the Niji guys we already have and I agree, they'll be a novelty but it takes months and maybe years to break into popularity, plus they're joining the game pretty ""late"". Maybe people thought the same about Nijisanji and Hololive when they started, that no one would care about them as much as the Heavenly 4, and they were proven wrong. However the growth the JPs experienced isn't ever going to be created in EN (male wise) because they're not doing anything new, they're hopping on the coattails.

>>11948276
Trust the plan. Together, they will have the most homosexual offpako vtubers have ever had. Together, they will leave an everlasting mark on the history of Canada. Together, they will do their part in worldwide Nijisanjification. Become Nijisanji.

>>11946493
>Doesn't change that the scene was much more female focused
And it still female focused

>Canadian
Gimme at least 1 British boy with a thick accent that they can't hide.

>>11948411
>hurr durr gura killers
only holobronies care.
gen 3 was a flop because 3/4 were bad picks.
millie is decent, but the other 3 range from disappointing to terrible. and they're constantly collabing with each other bringing the better ones down.

I don't care where they came from or what they said in their past lives, if at least one of these dudes is one of these, I'm on board:
>An unhinged otaku, the sort who can recognize an idol through a picture of her knees
>A film buff who, when presented with anything, says it reminds him of this eastern european short he watched through a bootleg DVD
>The cute BFE-bait twink model's performer has the biggest gap moe interest ever, some dudebro shit like MMA or weird shit like antique restoration
>Artist with the most non-anime style ever, I'm thinking Geiger-like but I can settle with Mignola-like
>Fighting game fan for the occasional saltmine online matches stream shitting on every character that's not his
>Tabletop RPG nerd who lost count of how many slave elves he put in his campaigns, regardless of setting
And yes I know these are exagerated and unlikely but no, I don't want to hear that these are unlikely, let a man dream, damnit.

>>11948537
Much less so than it was. Especially in Nijisanji, unless we're just going to pretend there's no reason for all the "manjisanji" shitposting here and the "mansanji" shitposting on 5ch.
I wouldn't say it's actually male dominated or anything, but no one's going "there's no way a male vtuber can be popular!" there.

>>11948411
WAVE 3 is doing just fine, only holofags and shitposters say "gura killer", kill yourself

>>11948629
Nijisanji is the only place where men are popular at the same level as women. Roberu, Tenkai, Itou life, and Meika talked about it. Even then, the first male vtuber (as in exclusively vtubing content) in the world got 1 million in Q3 of 2021. When so many other women got 1 million a long time ago.

>>11948614
I had a brainfart and suck dicks, I forgot the term is roomate and not performer.

>>11948442
The thing is you can pinpoint where they were able to succeed. Take "EN will never work!" Well the huge success of english clippers and growing EoP audiences showed that was wrong. With the males, the clamouring more seems like small pockets thinking it'd be neat. Are JP males or EN indies gaining ground? Not in any notable way. There isn't actually a demand. A male making it depends on that underdeveloped fujo audience rising up, or someone who can break the barrier becoming anime Ninja/whoever is it right now. The niji model of roll the dice a million times till the latter happens is probably the only shot.

>>11948587
I don't actually think that's the case.
>>11948761
You underestimate western yuemejos and fujos

>>11948708
Almost all those women are Hololive members with massive EOP fanbases, and the other 2 were the biggest of the 4 kings era. You can't point to gender as the big factor there.
And you're not completely wrong, but saying it's only [one of the biggest companies in the whole industry] is a weird point to make. Especially when they're main competition is, you know, an all female group. Like yes, theres a female bias (otaku like cute girls, duh), but my point is no one can go "Females only, no one will EVER like a male" like they do for the EN scene, and you'd think they would use the history there as an indication that that's a weird stance to take.

>>11948852
I guess view counts do as well, cause by the looks of it none are actually clamouring like people were for girls. The interest in JP girls was undeniable. Where are the fujos?

>>11942213
> that one schizo Hoshiyomi flip on LSD got in
now that would be entertaining

>>11948614
I want a gigga nigga DBZ chad black weeb.

>>11948935
Don't look at any site that's straight male dominated sites or boards for starters

>>11948935
They mainly reside in Twitter and Tiktok and hide under the K-Pop and shounen anime hole

>>11948708
gamebu, which was one of the bigger companies pre-holo was half men too and they were fairly popular.

>>11946679
Maybe, but I don't know, I feel like even if they debuted 1 at the start things could have been a bit easier, since expectations and pressure would have been lower at the time compared to right now, and it would have let them ease people on the idea of male vtubers and them being able to coesxist with females on equal grounds and as part of the same group (instead of leaving them in a separate one) and give them more time to adjust to the scene and set the grounds alongside the girls

>>11949121
Damn, an unapologetic shonentard would be fantastic too, getting unironically hype over the most overused tropes ever.

>>11948935
Plenty of female vtubers fans (and vtubers) have talked about wanting to see more men in vtubing.
specifically non fem-boy men.

outside of 4chan and hololive, vtubing has a heavy female bias even in the audience.

>>11943529
Unironically yes. EN Ebio would be great especially with his shitty games

>>11948852
No, you overestimate them. Yume/fujo culture in the west is splintered. Not sure how else to call it. There is no spending culture the same way JP girls do it, it's nowhere near as profitable. There's not enough fans. A fair amount of joseimuke apps that have EN servers, die. Elira even had her favorite boy idol game's EN server die on her (A3!) after she spent so much money and time. They're also loudly volatile instead of quietly. JP fans tend to hide on their locked accounts, whearas Western ones will not hesitate to rake you over the coals publically.
You can point at how popular Chronoir and other boys are in English speaking fanbases, but because anons don't know how fucking massive yume/fujo pandering is in Japan, it seems like a lot in English, but it literally will never come close. You're looking at an ice berg. And no, women getting lots of retweets on shipping memes on Twitter isn't an indicator of a large yume/fujo western fanbase that would want to watch vtubers and support them aside from retweeting borderline lewds of them and going about their day.

There is also the fact that the majority of Nijisanji men, don't actively pander towards these types of female fans as their main content. Some guys do ASMR, some guys do voice acting, some guys do singing and dancing, some do fujobait, but in the end their main content is still consumable for wide audiences. It's why Kuzuha still has 70% of his viewers be men, despite a +10% increase to his female watchers 2020 -> 2021. You can find shippers (female) for any guy, and you open a video sharing his statistics and it's 90% men. Anons keep saying NijiEN males should go target women but that's a surefire way into shoehorning yourself into obscurity. Marketing yourself like that turns away actual female fans as it feels ingenuine. Have them be normal male vtubers who throw out a bait here and there. Female fans can coast forever on a single tweet from a guy to his friends. Or release voice packs and keep the yume pandering to that/membership.

>>11949397
>non fem-boy men
>annoying orange joins nijien

>>11939905
>fujo market
Genuinely what do people mean when they say this?

>>11950108
When people say it here, they just mean female weebs.

>>11949129
>>11949197
>>11949397
Instead of vague bullshit point me to this huge fujo fanbase. You could do so with English clippers for JP girls back then and now.

>>11950206
I mean people don't clip most of the small en vtubers, and I'm not going to go digging through vods for a 10 second clip of them talking about wanting men.

just hang around the /asp/ and /wvt/ threads, people will post tweets and timestamps of people talking about wanting male vtubers, then the wannabe male vtubers immediately start coping and crying about how small their testicles are.

>>11950108
Means they don't know what they're talking about lol
If they did they'd know that anything with males who breath the same air is enough for fujoshi

>>11950206
Bro just look at literally anything INCLUDING threads /here/ concerning the Lazulight annnouncenent
Half the comments are basically "where are the boys?"

>>11950206
You can type Niji male + teetee into Youtube and see the crazy amount of views the clips get..oh wait they don't get as many views as normal clips.
>>11950279
The same people begging and crying for more male vtubers don't really know what they want. They see NijiJP and think all male vtubers should be like that. Woah Chaika suplexed someone on stream, I love male vtubers. Then they'll get 4 guys who talk, play games, and sing, and they'll be disappointed. Without realizing all the funny clips they see from JP guys are only a fraction of their content anyway.

>>11949397
>specifically non fem-boy men.
I'm kind of surprised by this part desu.

>>11950279
>will post tweets and timestamps of people talking ab
lmao, like I said off hand pockets of the general vtubing fanbase going wow that'd be cool is not the same as demand. That actually materialises as shit you can point to. Cause like >>11950401 shows the demand is weak.

This is the "I'd love to get into fighters/arena shooters" of streaming.

>>11950401
Its more that some people, mainly girls and gays, want to listen to guys talk and not women talk.
That's all it is.

>>11943002
Niji needs to try to hit homeruns in the west for this very reason, They can't settle for safe bets. This is another reason I think they need to look for someone not currently in the vtubing scene.

>>11950612
If they do then male English speaking vtubers of any caliber would find more fans instead of being literal whos, and even then, the ones who exist are more "bro" types who never pander and thus never find good attention from women/gays
Gays who are into vtubers are like a tiny tiny fraction. Majority of the "I'm going to impregnate him" posts come from women larping as men. /vt/ is not an indicator for anything.

>>11950401
>You can type Niji male + teetee into Youtube and see the crazy amount of views the clips get..oh wait they don't get as many views as normal clips.
Or you can just look up "Chronoir" on its own and see a random clip of them got more views than a clip about Lulu's (one of the most popular Nijis with EOPs!) GRADUATION from almost exactly the same time.
Or even that if you look up Nijisanji in general a lot of the first non-EN clips are of males.
There's an undeniable wish for males among Niji fans. It's obvious unless you actively try to ignore it.

Maybe? with how many ironic weebs exist in the west, some REAL weebs would sweep the scene and take it over

>>11950643
Headhunting someone who already has an audience is definitely the way to go. I just don't know how they would get someone who is already successful on board.

>>11950401
>>11950524
>Clipfagging
All fujos are regular listeners and twitcast stalkers. Go on twitter if you actually want to see them you spastic. But I don't recommend them because some mentally ill ones sent some hate to Lain Paterson because Kuzuha DARED to say she is similar to Banego (Akabane Youko).

>>11950715
>"bro" types who never pander and thus never find good attention from women/gays
This sort of pandering from streamers comes off as fake and forced, specially when these aren't professional performers, just look at how many people shit on yuribaiting from the women chuubas detracting from actual interactions.
As long as the tubers are having normal friendly interactions and can grow from there, it's good enough for the audience to get their imagination flowing.

>>11950715
>even then, the ones who exist are more "bro" types who never pander and thus never find good attention from women/gays
This apart for the last part.

When a male vtuber finally blows up they'll just be a normal ass streamer who won the fame lottery. That however will get female fans, but they'll be a minority. Every male streamer gets weird shipping female fan bull. We're just not gonna see this boyfriend experience stuff. There is not a demand for a specialised male vtuber.

>>11950715
They do get popularity. There are popular male vtubers, relative to the indie scene of course.
You can pretend they don't exist, but they're there on twitch if you cared to look. Just glancing through the tuber tag now, and ignoring the furries I see
a mexican male with 300 viewers
some weird werewolf dude with 200
some minecraft dudes ranging from 100-120
some dude playing ender lilies with 100

and plenty more in the 50-100 range.

that's more or less where the indies that got drafted into nijisanji were at.

>>11950731
I never said there isn't a wish, but you're ignoring any mention saying that EN males will not be the same as JP males. Guys speaking in English going bro I love you isn't going to get the same amount of hype as Chronoir clipping pins on each others ears and ticking each other over Twitcast. You would be hard pressed to find any EN speaking man who'd be ok lying in the same bed as another guy and smoking/singing/sleeping like Thronez did. That's what fujos go crazy over and no one is going to recreate that shit in EN.
And none of the people who watch clips of these moments sit through Kuzuha's 9 hours of Apex anyway. You want the guys to have an active fanbase, not people who watch clip moments and move on with their life.

>>11948761
Take a look at someone like Kanae's EN clip views. Over 10k in under a week. 5k+ views is the norm. Month old Genshin gacha clip with 164k views. His most watched EN clip is Genshin gacha at over a million views. Obviously that's because Kanae is Kanae and the most ENsubbed NijiJP, but saying there's nothing is just wrong. NijiJPs foreign audience has a high portion of male vtuber fans.
Indies: KamiyaJuu hit 140k recently out of nowhere. There's some others who have decent fanbases. It won't be HoloMyth tier insanity or live up to other crazy expectations, but there's something small in there, waiting.
>>11949381
Yeah, it's possible. I would've liked them from the start and maybe it would've been less stressful, but now that these will be the first ones, it's nice to have more variety in introduing EN male vtubers. But generally I think NijiEN is coexisting with males just fine. NijiEN has never avoided men, just that there aren't too many of them and none are in NijiEN. They've often been excited about them. Maybe if there's some crazy flirting accusations their coexistence will be troublesome? But maybe that won't show as bad outside of /here/ if it's cute. Apparently all waves have talked on Discord with their NijiEN senpais pre-debut too, so I think it's likely they'll be fine on that front, they're nice girls. The audience pressure might be a bit much, but a debut is bound to be stressful. If nothing else, they can relate to each other's situation. I hope they'll be fine.

>>11950900
>Twitcast stalkers
Gah don't remind me.

>>11950975
> You would be hard pressed to find any EN speaking man who'd be ok lying in the same bed as another guy and smoking/singing/sleeping like Thronez did.
Just because you're scared of men doesn't mean every other dude in the world is.

You realize most guys have no problems sleeping naked in a tent together right?

>>11951019
If you've never slept in a tent with your homies right next to each other as you try and not rip out a fart in the middle of the night or anything similar you haven't really got a real homie.

>>11951197
If you aren't the slightest bit homoerotic with your bros, you aren't really bros

>>11950108
Something that is nonexistant in the west unless you REALLY want to push it and include tumblr dykes

>>11951262
Exactly, that's the movement. BFE and fujobait doesn't work on a western context, now bromance and homiesexual stuff? That's what gets the audience going.

>>11951019
Anon I am saying these things because I like to think about men fucking. I find that JP guys lean into that kind of bait WAY easier than any western guy.

>>11951351
I see more yumejos and otomes more than fujos but they definitely exist because every fucking shounen fanbase has these retards and I want them to burn.

>>11951577
That's because of the distance you have over their culture compared to yours. But I do understand how you feel because everyone and their mother who I got into the Nijisanjij hole wants to fuck Kanae for some one reason or another.
>>11951561
I think it could work but nothing overt. Because you got people like Sykkuno and god heavens even Dream like that.

>>11950731
That’s not really how views work, most clips with the highest amount of views got that many because they simply blew up, not necessarily because of the popularity/knowledge of the content itself. That’s how it works in general

>>11951561
>and homiesexual stuff? That's what gets the audience going.
Dude this is where like 60% of fujos like it too. Shounen is one of the most popular genre for fujoshi, just because rivalry -> sexual tension and comradery -> romance are such easy connections to make. Hell, a lot of them don't even like outright gay content in canon, because they prefer to put their own spin on their ships instead of having it handed to them.
You get some outright gay LARPing from nijimales, but most of it is just men being friends with each other and expressing that. That's all fujos need.

>>11951561
>now bromance and homiesexual stuff? That's what gets the audience going.
Based and truthpilled. To quote Elira on this "If they're canon, I can't imagine them in MY scenarios."

>>11951810
>it could work but nothing overt
Well yeah, of course. For an instance, another anon mentioned up there about yumejos on a shonen fanbase, but it works that way for good reasons: in a shonen, the relationship between male characters is well-developed, you have two rivals with dedicated writing to explain how and why they antagonize each other. With a protagonist and their closest ally, there are huge moments of drama where they help or put themselves in danger for one another. By that alone it's enough to hook women in, because 9 out of 10 times a mangaka can make it believable and not feel forced, compared to what happens when the protagonist has to hook up with the main heroine.
>Uhhhhh, I guess she's the only girl who is close enough to the protagonist, and they spoke once or twice so they marry at the end and have three kids lol
>>11952118
Not to say that canon gay couples can't work, because stories with actual men hooking up are super popular as well, but it's that "I know they won't be real" gives them all the blank canvas to let their imaginations go out, like >>11952283 said.

Ok enough about fujos and yumejos, what designs would make them stand out?

>>11948614
I could probably fill the BFE-bait twink role and be spot on with the gap-moe, but have no streaming experience at all, let alone content creation in general.

>>11952906
Vocaroo sample RIGHT NOW!

>>11952906
The auditions were over for weeks, my guy!

>>11952894
All super sentai-themed and they have in costume and off costume avatars

>>11953072
I like super sentais and all but 3 or 4 of them at once?! That's madness.

>>11952894
Roman general who shits on GFE and twink shits, playing high level of AOE and RTS in general, talk about history shits and role play in Latin while genocide in game and often mocking waifufags in Latin like
https://youtu.be/ojC-zTXSAsY?t=39

Honestly as a dude, I don't mind if I get shipped with another dude, but I don't really care for pandering to it. I'm down for some bro stuff, but like I'm too socially awkward to sexually pander.
I mean if the other guy was getting pushy I might let him do a few things here and there, I wouldn't encourage it or anything but like I wouldn't resist.

I'm a man btw.

>>11952994
I-I'm ESL though: https://voca.ro/1dkf7CcJMvDb

>>11953049
If it wasn't for my shit internet, maybe I would have given it a try just for the hell of it. Might gonna start doing stream reps once I've sorted out some irl stuff and moved to a different place.

>>11952894
Grecian hero inspired design who's phenom-tier good at souls-like games, God Hand and other action RPGs.

>>11952894
I don't know about standing out, but I feel they'll follow the EN girls' theme of mythical creatures.
>EN wave 1 has a dragon, a mermaid and a fairy
>Wave 2 has a dragon, a penguin and a living flower
>Wave 3 has a ghost, a kitsune, a fallen-angel-demon-something and a witch
Would be cool if they're more like spooky cryptids, or creatures with a more masculine bent, such as a minotaur or a satyr, maybe a vampire or a Frankenstein's Monster. There'll definitely be a hot <something>-man, of course.

>>11953333
>Roman
>shits on GFE and twink shits
You don't know about greek boipussy, do you?

are there any EN male vtubers thats actually entertaining and fun that isnt fujo pandering or playing it too safe? someone like broteam, or demolitionD, and to a lesser extent mumkey jones, that has a good bit of edge to their humor and you know they are trying their fucking hardest not to drop the hard R. i think someone like that might appeal a lot to people that post on here and cynical male weebs in general

>>11953538
If you aren't applying for a next wave, I will go and dox you and force you to apply myself.

I missed auditions, and I probably will never apply anyways due to annoyances of having to work for an additional company.
but i have a png, i have a computer, and I'm going to play valorant for the first time since it released tonight and I will stream it after dinner. i will have 0 views and thats a good thing because I can't talk for shit.

wish me luck faggots, my male vtuber career starts tonight.

>>11953583
>Would be cool if they're more like spooky cryptids, or creatures with a more masculine bent, such as a minotaur or a satyr, maybe a vampire or a Frankenstein's Monster. There'll definitely be a hot <something>-man, of course.

Gay as fuck. Make them blue collar workers.

>>11953729
>EN male vtubers thats actually entertaining and fun
Kamiya J-
>isnt fujo pandering or playing it too safe
Never mind

>>11953653
They fucked twink to show masculine

>>11953538
Say “good night anon”

>>11954014
I watched his 2D Debut and he was muted the entire stream lmao. The amount of scuff and the shorts afterward was tremendous

>>11954014
yeah im looking for the opposite of that, i think that kind of personality and style mimics successful JP males too much and wont work in the west considering no one in the west really gives a shit about jp males

>>11954164
https://voca.ro/16T1r9p1w8hM

>>11953538
Cute laugh ngl

>>11953538
>>11954526
Cute voice and laugh anon.
your voice reminded me of an old msa poster from years ago, good luck if you start doing your reps.

>>11951001
Yeah, I guess that's true, more options would ease some of the pressure off the boys' shoulders and yeah, the girls have always been open to interacting and collabing with boys so maybe the lads won't have much issue trying to fit in (maybe) and the fanbase will be more open to all that and avoid any shit that that kind of stuff would attract, who knows honestly, audiences can be volatile and unpredictable as hell at times.
Hope they do well too.

>>11954451
The thing about him is that all his pandering end up either as shitposts on his channel or is feeding into the joke that "HE HATES HIS FANS!"
He's unironically entertaining but he's definitely pandering and I can't in good faith recommend him.

Maybe Randon (Orc Vtuber) and certified ossan is up on your alley, I've only really watched a couple of vods so I don't know if his humour lands as well as it did on the ones I've watched

>>11939697
How are they "confirmed", did they graduate recently?

Here are the official designs and they'll be released in two waves, thoughts?

>>11942240
This excuse again, it's a load of fucking shit. There's a metric shit ton of male streamers that don't use cam or have an avatar representing them. Remember Dream? You fucking retard.

Anyone saying they need to headhunt is delusional. Even Hololive couldn't reach too far out of the weeb market and grab someone that's already successful to join them, and that's with the guaranteed success as an incentive. How the hell can Nijisanji convince anyone reputable to join them and possibly debuff their own growth?

>>11954904
You're missing something

>>11955207
Bro wtf are those hands

>>11955222
The Yaoi hands

>>11955101
Considering who is in NijiEN3....

I don't think Nijisanji will make males popular BUT i do think that there will be one who breaks out who causes it to the same gura had the EN effect on the west. So basically its either got to be an xqc or pewdiepie kinda persona behind that shit to take off

>>11954904
First and two last ones are the only acceptable ones. Naruto is ugly and baraman needs clothes. Shota cute but that specific sho isn't.

>>11954904
me in the bottom middle.

>>11955465
Yeah, just find another pewdiepie or xqc guys. Problem solved. I don't know why all of you found this so hard.

>>11955025
>There's a metric shit ton of male streamers that don't use cam
>Uses dream as an example
Not having a facecam isn't what they were talking about. An anime avatar would only work if a guy was already successful and then began using one. Starting from zero with people predisposed to think you're an autist loser is a shit game plan.

Numbers is a shit argument. Even a flopped male nijien chuuba can attract 3-digits views and enough income to be a vtuber as a side gig. I don't think it can be as bad as the Indian branch. It doesn't have to be some kind of a big thing.

>>11955620
This is what people asking for EN versions of the male JPs sound like to me.

I never understood the fags that try to argue that people can just go an watch a male irl streamer instead of a male vtuber. That's the most blinded by weebism take I've ever seen. Literally the same shit can be argued for female streamers, "why would I watch a cartoon when I can watch pokimane bend over and 'accidentally' shake her ass into the camera". No shit a normal fag is going to watch an IRL streamer over a cartoon, you blithering retards. And this doesn't take into account all of the camless popular male streamers and male streamers that avatarfag already. And lets not forgot the fujos, if one of these niji males can speak korean they have this shit in the bag.

>Niji releases guys
>EN startups get more male applicants and release some fellas too.
>Entire male only groups are eventually created
And somewhere among that you'll have someone that can appeal to everyone. The numbers won't be the best, but the market quality might improve.

>>11955772
>Korean
NijiKR has never been all that popular unfortuantely. Yuya was the most popular and Bora is basically a JP streamer with her Apex addiction

>>11946198
Anon, Bacharu and V-gorrila was the first batch of male vtuber

>>11956643
In Niji?

>>11956643
>>11957466
Wait nevermind reread the post you were responding to to refresh my memory and yours.

>>11938451
>wanted to audition
>work was too busy and I forgot to try

At first I just wanted an easy stream gig, but now I want to rail Pomu so hard she can't stream for a week.

>>11957916
You won't get in with that mindset

>>11958066
I'm more motivated than ever. There will be hybrid pomus eventually. How long do fairies take to have a baby?

>>11958150
1 day to a hundred years depending on the suitor

>>11948411
I learn to ignore "OOO killer" from years ago since it was template /v/ shitpost.

>>11953475
Based and faggot-pilled

captcha: SXYAH

>>11949595
Best fujo/otome material is always the one that never specificly aimed toward them.

>>11941763
Explain all the dragoons here then anon.

What i find interesting is that theres so many anons here trying to shoot down other anons dreams of becoming male vtubers. Why the crab in the bucket mentality?

>>11958945
the crabs in the bucket are trying to keep the escaping crab from jumping into a pool of lava

>>11941892
shut up i love ikemen livers and shota

>>11943270
i want my 2d wife (male)
yikes 3d

>>11959184
This. That's hell they're walking into.

>>11958945
If you thought male fans of female vtubers were bad, just wait till you find out about female fans of male vtubers

>>11940556
Not reading this ESL garbage

>>11946104
Got groomed by a fan, started collabing with a bunch of retards, moved to twitch and burned away all of her audience.

>>11943466
Cringe

>>11949595
This is the truth

>>11950108
Something that only exists in japan and not the west

>>11939934
>DYRB

>>11938451
They will. If they took Selen's nepotism hire instead of Elira's. I mean her male friends are good enough to carry her to predator, and we can expect good bro streams from their banters. Elira's nepotism hire aren't doing well. It's weird seeing that SJW doing a lot better than her genmates, I don't even like her but I admit she standout the most.

I wonder, if by some mistake, they accidentally get GeePM to be a Nijisanji, Do you think people will respect unwritten rule?

>>11965846
If you mean her former pred friends, no. If you mean her current master friends, no.

>>11941152
Niji isn't stuck in permission boatarc

>>11945082
>unity
>HoloEN
You can only choose one

>>11966118
No they wouldn't if it was someone of that magnitude. It's like if Cinnpie of the FGC got in as a Nijisanji hire. That shit wouldn't fucking fly for anyone in the know

>>11970480
>Cinnpie of the FGC
Who and what did she do? Did she diddle kids, lmao.

>>11949121
A black man for first wave? Hell yes! And i hope we get a handsome one and not something like belmond or bonnivier

>>11938451
They can't even do that to their female branch.

>>11950401
I Mean, ok
https://youtu.be/cPhnNZzLIyE

>>11952894
I want a cat boy or kuzuma

>>11955465
I wonder, do people don't know why gura big in first place? Its always different answer, the real answer is because holoJP had a boom and they come on right time, pls gura scuff A meme, that its, she not even that entertaining compare to holoJP, she just got super lucky start

>>11943466
Most V-Tubers drop the kayfabe after a month or two anyways

>>11943466
>imaginary bro who gives the same vibes as the anime heroes
then go watch an anime. there are literally zero streamers on the planet who do this.

>>11955025
Dreams target audience is about 15 years younger than vtuber audiences
Only little kids would want to watch a dude with a cartoon avatar

>>11943466
All of that would be super cringe in English

>>11970771
Your oshi is built for Big White Pussy!

>>11943270
3D streamers
>annoying
>ugly
2D streamers
>cute
>sexy
>fun

> saw the thread
How do we have questions like this every week?

>>11965846
Fuck off holofag

>>11959305
I'm thinking, based.

>>11938451
lol
lmao
No. I say this with all sincerity, as someone who likes his share of male vtubers, like pizza papa and DMJ. Gender should theoretically not matter in vtubing, but just as in normalfag streaming, it does matter. The west and jp look for different things in their vtubers, legitimately, and there's not even a fraction of enough of us degenerates around to counter that.

>>11972683
People farming (You)s.

>>11958945
>What i find intresting is that so many anons her trying to shoot other anons dreams of becoming male vtubers.

i mean there's some but there's some exception like for example this >>11952906
entire reply chain you'll see some anon actually can be supportive to other anons. And iirc there's an anon that's start doing streaming reps after being encourage by /here/ people but i'm too lazy to do my archives reps.

>>11974619
Proffesor anon? I saw him in some NijiMaleEn threads time ago and he has been streaming as a png for a while, pretty chill and his voice is pretty goos.

fuck no, I'm personally just waiting to see if one of them will fuck up by trying to get with one of the other EN talents. Although in all likelihood, it's just gonna be homo fujo pandering

>>11943466
Astel-san...

>>11971994
ENTER

>>11941152
Go back to your block game spam. Even our block game autist capped it at once a week.

>>11938451
The guys better be fucking good because good god I feel like EN wave 3 is such a step down from 1 and 2

>>11948614
Does antique restoration thing count if it's my job and I like it?

>>11943270
As an actual faggot the reason of me preferring male vtubers is obvious, but I also happen to prefer anime girl streamers to 3DPDs so it's really weird that the reverse doesn't register for anons in a board that supposedly watches anime people
My guess is that /vt/ is barely even ironic weeb and actually closer to 3DPD streamers culturally than any other Japanese content outside Hololive.

>>11938451
There are already successful male ENvtubers but they're babi's or femboys. Thing is, effeminate men aren't going to popularize male vtubers in the West.

If Nijisanji can find a non-whiny masculine male, with a masculine voice ,and give him a cool avatar, sure, Niji can popularize males in the west.

>>11970626
Yes. Among other things

>>11938451
>will Nijisanji be able to produce a popular male vtuber for the West?
yes
>Will they popularize male vtubers in the West?
no

>>11985217
I keep wondering why Belmond type of vtuber is such a hypnotize for EN since I remember that time Bobon debuted in ID and boi the amount of newfags coming in for him is insane, also nowadays he is also one of the IDs with mainly non ID fanbase hence why it's him and Hana hosting Lazulight debut back then

>>11952894
Jacked old man medieval farmer

>>11952894
>what designs would make them stand out?
- Bruce Wayne or Roger Smith(Big O)
- Lupin the Third
- Guts
- Fighting Game character (Street fighter, king of Fighters, Guilty Gear)
- Non-human animal characters or monster's

Depends if we get Japanese modern take on masculinity vs their older takes.

>>11953538
C-cute... No homo.

>>11943466
>smart and calculating nerd vtubers, Hachiman vtubers
hmm you make a great point, you are winning me over anon

>>11990594
It's obvious from this thread that most Western dudes tend to favor more masculine design or even non-conventional ones and at the extremes thought more ikemen/bishonen or even generic anime boy designs as implied faggotry. Which is funny because anyone familiar with actual homo weeb content will know that manlier designs like Belmond, Bobon or Yashiro are actually the fag bara designs designed by artists pandering for homo dudes.
I don't mind either way as long as I get my share of cute anime boys too aside from the manly ones.

>>11992381
>Which is funny because anyone familiar with actual homo weeb content will know that manlier designs like Belmond, Bobon or Yashiro are actually the fag bara designs designed by artists pandering for homo dudes.
It's always funny to see how different the standars for stuff is in different cultures, this included.

>>11966118
Who

>>11938451
So long as they stay away from my girls I don't care
Personally I don't see why I'd ever watch a male vtuber