/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

ccv + sc
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://overseas.live-ranking.com/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/total-ranking/youtube
>https://www.dousetu.com/daily_ranking/
>http://v-ana.com/
>https://playboard.co/en/

Hololive
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://twitter.com/holo_data
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://mipacd.github.io/chat-stats/excl-chat.html
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html

Nijisanji
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings

Yesterday's views

>>11920950
and superchats

The holo en collab was a massive disappointment. Numbers were low and it shows how much the branch has dropped off. There is room for other vtubers there.

>11921062
Yeah Completely True. A mere 106k total is such a huge disappointment.

>>11921299
>more than 10 million subs
Yes, it is.

Hololive is winning so hard, it makes the bait that mich delicious to be honest. I mean, why are trolls so pissed?

Ryugon with Kson English sub

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HX_vhGLdtBY

kinda gives some kson numbers

top pre spam view 2020
bottom post spam view 2021

>>11921062
It's either you criticize the number because it isn't what you projected compared to whoever your schizo mind is comparing them in the EN sphere which is spoilers... NONE or you compare the "quality" of the collab and say that there are far better "chemistry" that your schizo mind prefers. No EN can even come close to their numbers. I believe their numbers were higher now when they stream TTRPG as a group or when they killed the ender dragon. It's about 40% higher. I can't say the same for groups like NijiEN whose new additions barely adds any net positive other than cannibilizing their own audience

I've seen the entire board being bombarded by the recent holoEN collab clips. I guess /vt/ is one of the places to fish for clicks.

>>11921062
You're a massive disappointment. IQs were low and it shows how much you've dropped off. There is room for other numberfags here.

We are going to have the Sports Fest again care of Miko and Mio. That will be the true test of Hololive's power after Coco.

Gura's VOD is 420K Ina and Kronii is 190K Mumei is 180K.
Is the proportion same as avg ccv?

>>11921062
That's a lot of projecting anon. You shouldn't feel too bad. Being a tranny isn't your fault desu.

Subaru 20k again for yakuza.

>>11921570
Did it reach 100k+ the last time?
But in Usada Summer fest didn't numbers reach 200k?
I predict 150k+ (200k if it was timed right and big hitters like pekora and holoen will participate)

Have Cover or Nijisanji ever published any sort of investor document outlining where their revenue comes from? I'm curious what actual portion of revenue is from sponsorships vs. concerts vs. superchats.

>>11921439
This is 2 months in after EN Myth's debut. Peak Covid lockdown. Their numbers back then is not indicative of the new atmosphere we have today 2021. Hype is down. Real viewership that have stayed after the fever dream has gone down are what you are seeing right now. Still massive numbers. I would retention for them is high.

>>11920075
Not a numberfag, but nice OP image.

>>11921677
It reached 100k on Miko's stream but there were 4 other people streaming their POV at the same time that had a range of 30k-50k for each

>>11921792
What were usaken's numbers ?

>>11921792
78k on Miko

The real peak total ccv is around the third game.
This graph is not made by me.

>>11921858
All i remember was that Pekora got 50k+ and Gura got almost 50k as well.
The total was 200k or almost if i'm bot mistaken

>>11922023
>i'm bot mistaken
>bot
Yes
>>11921986
Still feels very little.

There is a small chance Pekora won't be participating (due to her beef with Miko) and if its next weekend then Marine will also be absent.
Literally the top 2 holos absent will mean numbers will plummet.
I hope not.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKcZk7TYmnY
Any prediction? I think 50k

>>11922117
Lol i meant "not"
>>11922129
Yeah 50k might be possible since its still related to Sports fest

>11922117
Insufferable faggots like you will never be satisfied until they get a 1:1 ratio for their CCV/subcount

>>11921858
>>11921976
>>11922023
>>11922117
Sports Fest
FBK: 35k
Pekora: 63K
Haachama: 30k
Miko: 78K
Aqua: 48k

Usaken:
Aki: 5k
Roboco: 11k
Kiara: 10k
Kanata: 11k
Coco: 24k
Matsuri: 4k
Moona: 5k
Botan: 15k
Pekora: 68k
Reine: 1.8k
Towa: 7k
Choco: 2k
Watson: 11k
Subaru: 14k
Ollie: 2.8k
Lamy: 6k
Iofi: 1.5k
Watame: 10k
Ina: 8k
Azki: 7k
Polka: 4k
Miko: 47k
Gura: 46k
Fubuki: 17k

Do the math. I'm lazy now.

>>11922126
Pekora will participate. She's too much of a numberfag to not join. She would probably not play with Miko directly anyway.

sportfes 2020 numbers. Gura... I hope the ENs participate this year.

>>11922126
Nice example of getting your brain rotted by /vt/

>>11922202
Forgot to add Mori's which is 8k and Nene which was 16k.

A lot of these numbers overlap with each other unless YT really do not count multi-view as multiple views and only count your first tab as your only view

>>11922207
Is this the Gura ccv number when she overlap with the sportfes?

HoloEN Amongus was trending in JP, that's definitely a first. Did NijiEN do anything trending in JP?

>>11922183
You're being extreme. It just feels like very little for a company that supposedly has a monopoly on the west. Context for numbers matter. 100k during a massively hyped collab between the entire branch is not a good number.

>>11922117
And again. What are you comparing this on? Don't fucking tell me numbers that happened 1 year ago or a Niji playing with ecelebs

>>11922326
They have been collabing for weeks now. This is not a hyped collab. This is not a tournament of some sort. This is just a usual collab that has a lot of participants. A "hyped" collab is what the NijiEN management tried to do on their main channel

>>11921062
Nijibros...
It's ogey
I will let you cope

>>11922406
>live debut show doesn't work the first time
>do it 2 more times

>>11922326
??? Anonchama??? Do you have any idea how hard getting 100k+ CCV is? Numbers do not increase in a straight line. Think of it like basketball. The difference between a 15-20pt scorer and 25+pt scorer is astronomical. The former is a borderline all star while the latter is a possible superstar. I know Hololive tends to warp people's perception of what good numbers look like but you need to be more self aware than this.

>>11922326
>massively hyped

>>11922202
Sports Fest: 254k
Usaken: 362k. without HoloEN and ID it's 268k.

>>11922326
>massively hyped
lul

>cant get #1
>claim hal as a niji
>total CCV of the same game mogged by holoen
no wonder the copium intake increased

>>11922326
Massively hyped is wrong lol.
Kiara announced & tweet it and that's it. Most of them just had their stream frame a day before. Hell, Kronii just had hers an hour before it lmao

>>11922555
reminder that was peak number and not every stream reached peak at the same time

>>11922555
If HoloEN participate as a whole group then that means the projection should still be 250k collective for all JP Team Leads and 100k for HoloEN+ID. Give or take. That is the safe projection. If they perform lower than that, we shall see. This the proper hyped event.

>>11922644
Sure. Then we can just say that the projected peak is at 350k collectively and then shave off 30% for average of 245k.

>>11922319
Pomu's multiple Homeruns during the Baseball game

>>11922785
fair enough

>>11922441
Why would Nijichads cope? Gura can't even get 30k while THE KING got 43k with 1/3rd of her subs

>>11922820
It still cringes me to this day how you people call him "King." It's the same attitude of putting No.1 on your website and then removing it after reality strikes you hard in the ass a year after.

>>11922820
Nijicope =/= Kuzucope
Niji's ccv is below Holo's ccv

Nijicope tears are too good

>>11922887
Eh, let them have this one. Kuzuha is the undisputed most watched male vtuber, that much isn't deniable. Is it healthy to have one liver carrying the company so hard though? Absolutely not. The fact that they can't get anyone to even come close to streaming regularly AND able to put up 20ks is actually pretty concerning from a scouting/growth angl, whereas Hololive, you take remove Pekora from the equation and you still have multiple Holomem who can step in and get 20k+ streams on the regular.

>>11922901
>Can't beat Kuzuha's CCV so they add all they move the goalpost and add all the CCV instead
RUMAO, HOLOCOPE ON MAXIMUM OVERDRIVE TODAY

>>11922955
which reminds me. how is the performance of the last gen for NijiJP doing? I was sure there was this Anon shilling that Leos Vincent dude

>>11922901
>Can't beat Kuzuha's CCV so they move the goalpost and add all the CCV instead
RUMAO, HOLOCOPE ON MAXIMUM OVERDRIVE TODAY

I'm a bit surprised this place hasn't been renamed to falseflagging general

>>11923000
I'm pretty sure this sums behavior started when this nijiautist was trying to say Irys was failure compared to NijiEN because their collective number was slightly above Irys's number at that time.

>>11923006
I think he was still not bad at SC but his ccv are now low (last stream i saw of him in holodex was 4k and it was a relatively free slot)
Kuzuha and Kanae is fine but i don't like the character model of Leos and Oliver. They look like smartasses who are fucking assholes lol

Kuzuha to Niji is like Ohtani to Angel, winning the MVP(possibly) but fail to get into postseason

>>11923063
How about the two dudes that was being compared to Kanae and Kuzuha?

>>11923006
That anon is retarded Leos hovers around 5k/4k and below usually. He keeps saying Leos is the next Kuzuha because of his debut, has no idea the circumstances or context of it. Or that Leos does not offer anything that's so easily consumable like Apex tournaments. Leos plays longer games. Does not translate well to high CCV.

>11923000
I see someone is desperate for (you)s
Or maybe its just his coping mechanics

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yUadjb3diw
Weekly song numberfagging

>>11923072
Sounds like how Mike Trout was/is too. Number niggers will never convince me he's an MVP.
>>11923087
Irohasu gets good SCs and that other one does fine. None of them get above 4k.

>>11923087
Lauren and Axia? Not doing much lately, whatever crazy SC Lauren was pulling has weakened considerably but is still better than the rest of his wave. Somehow Selen got into a Hal custom before them. Lauren released a cover. And that's about it in terms of remarkable things, numberfag wise.
4/5 of them have done shill streams.

>>11923171
Just from a numbers perspective, seeing the stark difference from their debuts and debut-buffed streams...man. I knew it wasn't realistic they would hold those numbers, but the fact that they're all sub 8k on the regular now is just a bit...underwhelming.

>>11923171
They are still fairing better than NijiEN though so that's a good thing. Has NijiEN done spons yet? It would be funny if Holo Council or Irys gets one first before they do but that would be inevitable given the circumstance.

>>11922955
>にじさんじ(151人) 同接1万以上の動画数 81 (2021年9月 ) 葛葉31配信(葛葉率38%)
>ホロライブ(51人) 同接1万以上の動画数 351 (2021年9月 ) ぺこら28配信(ぺこら率8%)

Kuzuha… i wonder how many hes going to get this month

>>11923243
is this how far a top niji can reach? not even 6% like turnout, dead subs? it's been 26 days

>>11923486
They can only spend money to bot one song at a time. Budget constraint due to EN

>>11923228
>Has NijiEN done spons yet?
A sponsored stream? Yes, NijiEN Wave 1 had one a few weeks ago.

Theoretically speaking, if Kuzuha takes a long break, who in Nijisanji can carry the company?

>>11923112
10. ChocoShubaLuna - Cherry Bomb
9. Suisei - KING
8. Calliope - Roki
7. Fubuki and Oga - Okochama Sensou
6. Hololive - Ochame Kinou
5. Ayame - Goodbye Sengen
4. Watame and blondies - Fansa
3. Okayu - Gehenna
2. Calli and Suisei - Getcha
1. Calli and Gura - KING

>>11923653
>2. Calli and Suisei - Getcha
>1. Calli and Gura - KING
Damn, still going strong and beating new covers.

over 900 wailing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKcZk7TYmnY

It's been two weeks since the last original songs ranking.

>>11923651
Mito.

>>11923112
Speaking to songs, RIP is faster than REFLECT in terms of reaching 11M .
Conclusion (speed) :
original : Mori cover : Gura

>>11923653
>>11923674
Getcha even gained 35k views from last week. Monstrous numbers for a non FOTM song that not a lot of people cover.

>>11923708
Heh. Considering Reflect doesn't even have an MV, that's pretty good. I know a lot of times the Topic version has also popped up, and unlike Calli, Gura's Topic is its own thing so views WILL be leeched.

>>11923696
>Mito
This isn't 2019.

>>11923708
Eh besides King other Gura's covers have all disappeared from top 50 weekly. Meanwhile Mori has Envy Baby always strong around top 20, Roki strong around top 10 and Getcha + King being 2nd and 1st.
I have no doubts that if Gura does a solo cover of a good or FOTM song she will be up there though.

>>11923651
Shibuya Hal

>>11923832
Even Gura's King sounds like she was just taking the piss out of it. I'm not sure she's interested in doing covers that all the other girls do.

>>11923920
man gura already makes subs milestone meaningless, now if she start doing cover, it will make fastest to get (x) million meaningless as well

>>11923243
If both NijiJP and HoloJP were countires what would their Gini index be?

>>11923920
Gura organized the King cover though, which is why it's on her channel instead of her other collab covers on other channels.

Speaking of Mori, I'm curious how her new original song next week will do since it's a collab with someone 99% of the western vtubing audience has never heard of (Boogey Voxx).

>>11923969
Yeah but I can't help but feel like she wanted to make fun of the entire thing. She's not trying to sing and "mocks" the chorus.

There are multiple Queens depending on what metric you wanna use but there's only King in the vtubing world.
That's why Kuzuha deserves the title

>>11924029
I guess the king of Poland was still technically a king.

What's the superchat threshold for someone to be considered successful despite being a relative failure in terms of CCV?

>>11923981
Depending on the theme and mood of the cover I guess. If it's perceived as a Halloween song (which Mori has said similar vibes) it will get a big boost. The one on BGV channel will do worse than Mori's usual numbers for sure (see Spiral Tones).
>>11924015
Oh yeah they were ad-libbing back and forth and fucking around. Makes the cover more "original" and better for me though.

>>11924079
Are they even going to be releasing the song with the Mori feature on their channel? I thought it was just for the album.

>>11923981
I'm looking forward to that one, glad Calli collabed with BV. They did very well on RIP

>>11924062
Can they make rent AND eat?

>>11924029
Yeah, and that's Jun, next is StrawberryP, stop coping

>>11924091
That's what I gathered from all the tidbits so far, could be wrong though. Would be a bad business move to have it streaming / buying only without at least a MV on BGV's youtube channel.

>>11924015
It doesn't strike me that she was making fun of it at all. Their version in general steps outside the bounds of an orthodox cover with how Calli adds her own rap lyrics already, to expect Gura to play it straight instead is just double standards. Gura played to her strength (samegaki) and contrasted herself with Calli's 'cooler' style. Considering that its a collab, its a refreshing take on the song and their contrasts.

>>11923981
I hope it can make Boogey Voxx incline.

>>11924135
Jun is a vtuber now?

>>11924202
Yeah, he's a convert like kson

>>11924202
how new?

>>11924242
so I guess PewDiePie and Pokimane are vtubers as well

>>11924173
I don't think so. Did Milky incline? Did Rikka incline? Rikka's duo is still his most viewed MV. If they do consistent collabs maybe they can incline due to the exposure but if it's a one and done thing I doubt it.

>>11922207
>>11921439
I will never forgive susan for this culling

>>11923981
Today, Boogie Voxx. Tomorrow, Japanese rappers. Next week, Gorillaz. Next month, Moistcritikal. Soon, Calli, soon.

>>11924285
*Rikka's duo with Matsuri

>>11924285
They both inclined but it was a one time sub boost like you said and not consistent. I personally blame the studio version where they autotuned the fuck out of his voice. Would have easily cleared 1m views by now.

Calli can always invite Rikka on a concert/3d live having that 'song collab' ticket. Much like Suisei with Toko

>>11923981
Anon-chama, Bogey Voxx remix was one of the most requested during Calli's remix contests. People into Mori know who Bogey Voxx are

>>11924421
The only way you can get a boost through Holos is if you are consistent with it. Gura can't save Anya but Pekora was able to boost Moona. It's the same with any groups or units that was formed inside Holo. People will subscribe to all of them because they want to see more and is expecting more. One and dones never works out.

Wouldn't it be funny if this actually take Top1 today? (beating Gura in Among Us and Miko Sports Fest Planning)
Buffs
*it'll happen 1 hour after Miko Sports Fest Planning (assuming it ends early then easy ccv for peko)
*peko suffering & gacha are always strong

I would prefer if you just do this tomorrow peko for another holowin

>>11924015
They even tell you DIRECTLY in the lyrics that it's their take and not just a regular cover because they're not there to ride a wave of popularity (because it was over at that point) but to have fun.
"Better to be late than to never satiate,
hungry hungry for some blood on my plate.
So take the bait, kings never play it straight."

>>11924489
cute pegora

>>11924489
I mean, it's definitely beating Gura Among us (no imposter round + EN culling a bit harder than JP), but beating sports-fes announcement? Well, honestly that one depends. Peko stands a decent chance of coming out on top though, just because Peko-suffering is way too strong of a buff.

>>11924489
pack it up guys, we got #1 for the day

>>11924489
Any other Nijisanji fan want Pekora to get a career ending, life changing, and potentially fatal injury?

>>11924543
No.
t. nijifag

>>11924489
>>11924520
Pekora will get the biggest number because people will watch her right after Miko. It's an unofficial relay. Same way when Holos do 1hr streams before a 3D event. You know for sure majority will show up to watch unless the chuubas is so divisive like Matsuri

>>11924573
Illegal view funneling.

If any 35p does that then need to leave their badges at the door.

Oh, slightly vtuber related (if only because so many of her songs get covers/are song in Karaokes)
Ado has an album coming out Jan 26th 2022. Gonna be interesting to see how well she does as one of the breakout artists of 2020/2021 in JP.

>>11923006
Naw, that anon is just a retard that's trying to push another Nijimale to bait Holofans like Kuzuha and Fuwa just because Leos got great numbers in the first 2 weeks.

Last gen of NijiJP is doing pretty good compared to Selejo and Niji in general, but not comparable to HoloCouncil or HoloJP5 at all.

Lauren gets 3-5k, Axia and Oliver are <3.5k, Lain is like 1-2k and Leos is 3-7k.
Like most Nijimales who are pretty popular, Leos has potential to get pretty crazy numbers and his 3D debut will very likely get over 100k in 2023 lol, but his daily numbers are worse than the middle of HoloCouncil and HoloJP5.

>>11924593
I don't know. I think normie 35Ps and Nousagis are much more like than you can imagine. I bet their viewer overlap is immense.

>>11924489
damn Pegora has no chill

>>11924543
Vtubing Career ending injury would need to be unmovable arm or becoming mute. Just how much evil can you get to wish that
>>11924663
>>11924593
Only 4ch 35P hate pekora. Most Nousagis are often 35Ps and subatomos

One got 43k CCV and one got 29k.

>>11923486
That's a lot more dead subs that you'd expect

VOD views of the AmongU US collab keep on rising, with Gura almost approaching 500k. I'm curious, how does YT count 1 view? Do you have have to watch it for a certain amount of time? Does clicking the video multiple times increase the overall view count?

>>11925165
Oh boy here we go again (yea yea, not everyone remembers this)
View counts go up based on 'sessions' if the video you're watching is long enough. In the case of these vods, if your 'view session' is at least 30 seconds total (you can skip to different parts of the video, but you must have played the video for a total of 30 seconds), it counts as a view. After that, if you refresh, or navigate away and back to the page, you can add another view. You can add at most 5? pretty sure it's 5, 5 views to a video a day to prevent a small group of user accounts from racking up views on a video.

>>11925246
This is per account as well so if you have a different accounts on your desktop, laptop, tablets and phones... you can spam views that way.

>>11925165
30 sec

>>11924593
Miko will watch it even if she still streaming. Why wouldn't 35p also watch their real favourite?

>>11925165
Does it really matter? We've already proven countless times that Cover does boost the EN's VOD views by using viewbots

I hope they can boost Gura's songs as well, 400k a day is sweet

>>11925502
Can you give me proof of that? I'm in the process of compiling evidence for Cover's illicit activities. This will be very helpful.

Great numbers for what I assume to have been “horse race watchalong and betting”

Nips surely like their horsies

>>11925598
How's the list so far? was it also a crime they took the EN market as hostage?

>>11925601
Nui literally gets her best numbers doing these horse racing watchalongs.
It's a guaranteed 9-10k like karaokes for many Holos.

>>11924489
Kuzu's e-celeb among us collab not today?

>>11925502
You don't know niji bots kuzu' CCV so hard?

>>11925996
>144k LMAO

>Getcha still going strong
Is this the combined power of Deadbeats and Hoshiyomis?

I forgot to post this

>Suisei and Toko

>>11925977
It is today if im not mistaken. So kuzuha will win today .

>>11926786
So who'll be the first one to propose? Suisei or Toko?

>>11926818
Not so fast, miko and mio sport fest announcement and pekora's pokemon unboxing is today

>>11926818
If he loses today while leeching from e-celebs it will be pretty funny.

>>11926822
Pretty sure they both too enamored with enstars to be worrying about that sorta thing.
>>11926818
Decent chance yea, but don't count out Peko-chan just yet.

>>11926844
Another e-celeb collab ew. If he wins though, the shitposts is going to be out of control, there's miko, pekora and gura today.

>>11926827
Eh i expect 25-35k for miko MC, 30-35k for pekora pokemon unboxing and around 40-50k for kuzuha today.

The reaaon why i lowballed pekora is because there is a chance that miko MC will overlap also the novelty of card opening is probably not there anymore. I wont be surprised if she get 40k though.

Daily reminder that Pmaruchan absolutely mogged everyone on September 30, 2021

>>11926876
Let them, they've been mogged for long lol.

>>11926888
Who's joining him in the among us collab? Ryosuke idol guy and Hikakin again? or CR friends?

>>11926939
Yeah might as well give them Hal's wins >>11880590

New 774 branch debut today, will it hit 10k+?
https://youtu.be/oN6FW2n3agA

>>11926899
>did one of the most watched concert stream in vtubing history despite being half an hour late
>never streams again
what a chad

>>11927005
Poor souls

>>11926951
Nip moot

Other NijiEN girls should do original songs and covers. Enna is going to the moon.

>>11927040
Actually made me check.

>>11927040
Stop shilling your midget chuubas here.

>>11927040
Anon? Did you fall for bait or something

>>11927040
80k would've been more believable.

>>11927040
Atleast edit the likes properly.

>>11927040
Amazing, it event mogged kazuha's original for that duration

>>11927040
this might be the dumbest thread on /vt/ and that takes a lot.

Doesn't Kuzuha's earlier Among Us count for today as well, since it went past midnight?

>>11927147
Nope it was included in yesterday's chart so won't count for today.

>>11927040
anon, you need a space suit and space craft to go to the moon. Enna is just a bird.

You don't have to be that desperate newfag

>>11926951
Naw, it's a different gang of guys.
Hiromoot and mafumafu are 2 of them.

If last time was any indication and judging from the twitter hype and the hype from his practice stream last night, Kuzuha will probably get 60-70k tonight so he's winning the day for sure.

>>11927040

>>11920656
>NijiJP = 200k+
Here we go again. It's 250k+

>>11927232
That's Better

>>11927232
>legit
can confirm

>>11927096
You fell for the most simplest of bait

>>11927264
That's fair enough, but its also the only yearly event that can draw in enough 'tourists' and low-engagement viewers. Are there any other big events Niji does that we can also keep track of? (I actually don't know what their winter events numbers look like)

>>11927177
Same guys from his last 78k among us collab? I don't remember that far, but he played with hiromoot too at the time

>>11924543
Nah, Pekkers is cool.

>>11927315
Yup, I don't think he'll get 78k again because the novelty isn't as fresh this time, but he'll get an insane number regardless so it's his day.

>>11927005
Dang, they got that many people to join 774? Why don't these people apply to Nijisanji or Hololive?

>>11927264
That 20k is probably Belmond's peak for the year.
Crazy day for Nijinumbers.

>>11925246
Anon. Both streams are Among us. Both streams almost equal in length. Both streams happening on prime times of their regions. Why the change of VODs?
I assume because of members present. HoloEN got more viewers combined for their session than NijiJP. Fans want to check everyone's perspective/the top perspective during a funny moment. Therefore more VOD views on Gura.

>>11927295
Mario Cart tourney is the safest bet for now.

>>11927418
Because Hololive and Niji are slowing down auditions. Hololive is probably focusing on foreign branches for now.

Who knows when Hololive will debut Gen6 JP.

>>11927177
No it's the same people but the gay guy is replaced with a lawyer

>Holo koshien equivalent event
>Only 10k waiting
Its over holobros… koshien draft peaked 140k… this announcement wont even break 40k

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>>11927444
I meant it's not Yamada or Hikakin or his Apex buddies.
It's a different group, his Among Us e-celeb group lol.

>>11927353
>>11927315
>>11927177
Ohh well then i guess the score is now 16-6-2
16 Top1s for Hololive
6 Top1s for Nijisanji (6th win is today)
2 Top1s for Indies(Only Hal so far)

>>11927264
holoEN seems a bit weird since Guwra alone had a stream that went past that

>>11927477
If you include Hal and multiply the number by 3 you'll get 16 vs 24
Oh nonono Holobros reclining, what a failure mass graduation when

>>11927420
It was also one of the earliest non management organized interbranch collabs which helped to get rid of some borders between them (some of the members of the collab are going to be watching some ffxiv trailer together later)

If they cant beat last years peak 55k
https://holo.poi.cat/stream/IFHswo53eS0
Its safe to say hololive is reclining.

>>11926899
>Losing to Coco's freechat goodbye
She's great but she got mogged there

>>11927517
Ohhh No!!! How could this be!!

>>11927555
>pre Dec 2020
For reference, that was not even the most watched stream of the day.
Pekora fetched 56k with a run of the mill Minecraft stream
https://holo.poi.cat/stream/08bI-5S-dsw

>>11927477
>6 Top1s for Nijisanji (6th win is today)
>2 Top1s for Indies(Only Hal so far)
Just sum them together, it looks pitiful for a top company competing for 2nd place with an indie

>>11923006
Leos is really entertaining. He was like Kuzuha before he sold his soul to apex in exchange of high numba

>>11927595
She "only" had 650k VOD views for that 4 hour stream too, which doesn't seem that much for an insane CCV peak like 56k.

Opened to a waiting room of 19k, pointing out to a 35k stream or so, which is where I'll put the over/under
>PREDICTIONS?
I say it beats 35k but not 40k

>>11926786
HOLOLIVE MOGGED
GET FUCKED HOLOBRONIES
TOKO I KNEEL

>>11927595
Pre dec 2020 is a holocope. Niji grew their numbers from 191k (pre dec 2020) to 205k (250k total ccv post dec 2020) despite the spam view shenanigans

>>11923721
How could it not? That shit is always in my next to play everytime i play a vtuber song. But getcha really is algorithm friendly. I remember Leona and Kyo's cover was always got reccomended too in it's first 3-4 month

>>11927691
I hope you are not really comparing Koshien with Minecraft roleplay. That would be a disservice to what Nijisanji represents to Japan and to what baseball represents to Japan.

Again, that Mio/Miko stream last year didn't even beat Pekora playing regular Minecraft

>>11927528
That's really nice.

>>11927658
are teams even being announced in this stream?

>>11927691
And despite Susan trying to break youtube during that stream

>>11927710
it helps that it's a really good and catchy song.

>>11927691
Imagine if it didn't have spam view shenanigans

>>11927658
8 min to 30k. I think I may have lowballed the over/under a little.

>>11927555
I mean, they're already ahead of where they were last year if you're comparing 1:1 of time to viewership.

I see tonight's gonna be bloody!
Kuzuha (Among Us w/ E-Celebs) VS Pekora (opening Poke card packs) VS Miko (plannign for minecraft sportsfest)
Number's Thread is gonna be hell again

>>11927768
I did underestimate this aswell i thought this is just a 25-35k but it looks like it will hit 40k+

>>11927691
I mean, Gura's 194k peak and Coco's 490k graduation were both after the dec 2020 cut.
Doesn't change that it still greatly fucked with the average Holonumbers and we could be seeing much greater peaks.

Fubuki getting good numbers for idol game stuff too, even head to head with Mio/Miko

>>11927731
It doesn't seem so.

I understand Mio pretty well but Miko's speech is a mystery to me.

>>11927768
if teams aren't even being announced it probably can't be compared to this one. Looks like its just a generic explanation of the festival.

Rushia (11k) and Fubuki (also 11k) while overlapping Miko's Planning Stream is actually good numbers tho

r/holo mods couldn't be bothered to promote this, they'd rather post sub milestones

>>11927868
someone should sum the numbers and compare the two companies head-to-head

>>11927855
>https://holo.poi.cat/stream/IFHswo53eS0
>https://holo.poi.cat/stream/xKcZk7TYmnY
They're making pretty good time actually.
2021: 38k right now 15 mins in.
2020: 20k 15 mins in
The 55k peak happened when they announced the teams.

>>11927892
They don't have "mods", afaik there is one employee that shows up there sometimes and posts stuff or pin them, like PR stuff.
Right now the only pinned post is Suisei's show.

>>11927892
promote what? There's nothing to promote it's just showcasing the events.

>>11920656
What was holoJP's 490k+ again? Coco graduation?

Yeah, this is already surpassing every expectation. 40k already

>>11927919
so much for reclining, shitposters need to find better baits

>>11927892
It's full of among us garbage

>>11927973
Its the only one they got
There is even a graph which shows HoloJP is back on the incline while NijiJP declined a bit. And those assholes are still pushing slow and steady cope

>>11927925
mods or staff, all the same.

>>11927999
No, my point is there is no "plural", there is literally one (1) peon doing the whole thing, likely in his unpaid overtime.

>>11927997
NijiJP isn't the one who had to milk a graduation to get a stream over 200k.

If they don't announce the teams this stream, there's probably not enough juice to bump this to 55k to beat last year's peak.
Regardless, they already beat last year's mean.
2020 mean: 30796
2021 mean (so far, 24 mins in): 32746

Did Kuzuha become an impostor already? He is still behind Miko as of now.

>>11928053
NijiJP couldn't reach 400k if Kuzuha himself graduated.

>>11928053
Sounds like cope. if you were here on the day Lulu graduated, niggers were proud of the numbers, they couldn't control the small dog syndrome.

>>11928082
What the fuck, even the game is helping him but not Gura.. I call bullshit

>>11928060
Teams INCOMING

Looks like teams are already ready. Surprising!

>>11928082
No, they just started playing and he's not imposter this round.
It's hard to believe he will double his viewers to 70k if he does get to be imposter later, but I've seen crazier things happen with his numbers so I won't be too surprised.

Pekomikobros . . .

>>11928053
>be Niji
>be tourist central galore
>get 200k during Koshien
>never get 2% of that in average streams after Koshien

>>11927925
Wtf? Why do they let companies run their sub?

>>11928123
>crazier
Bots are gonna be used

>>11928142
>Why do they let companies run their sub?
Why not? That site is a wasteland ran by volunteers, why wouldn't the volunteer be part of the company?

>>11928123
Anon you need to expand your vocabulary, your seanig odor is leaking

>>11927957
Who will win?
A 3.5 mil sub shark girl, the most popular vtuber in the world, playing the most popular game of the year with other 1 mil sub Vtubers
Or
A Shrine Maiden who can't speak Japanese playing a block game

The answer will shock, surprise and make scream "SUSSY BAKA DESU"

ID and EN participation confirmed

>>11928198
and rape pekora's hair

I severely underestimate this Miko MC sportfest... Fuck me.

>>11928206
My nihongo reps is shit, are they starting to draft teams? Numbers got to 48k already.

>>11928198
Needs more ALL CAPS, gratuitous use of "meme arrows"

>>11928196
Kys you tribal fucktard

>>11928198
These kinds of posts always amuses me lol
>>11928214
and yeah you forgot this, the most important part lol

>>11928206
>whole company event
>only 47k
wwwwwwww

>>11928255
>whole company event
>only 2 people on
??????

>>11928230
not yet, explanation on upgrades from previous festival, addition of ID and EN to regular teams

>>11928252
>did not deny
Take a shower seanig

>big hololive announcement involving all three branches
>can't beat one (1) (UNO) Shibuya Hal announcing his new vtuber agency
Lmao

>>11928255
>>11928291
let the coping begin

>>11928124
I wasn't watching. Wtf happened?
>>11928255
Idiot

>>11928291
They already beat hal number yesterday though.

why does Hololive's success make people seethe so hard?

>>11928255
>a babbie and her mommy talking about pixelated dolls
>50k
Mio/Miko, I KNEEL!

NIJICOPE LIST
>building a sub-culture
>slow and steady growth
>merch sales
>no longer showing off their achievements on their page because they have shown more humility
>percentages
>honorary *insert name here*
>tournaments don't count
>fortune telling
>volume
>averages
>total CCV during primetime
>trailers are ads
>Google trends
>Holo EN was a desperate gambit
>Holo's forcibly acquired audience vs Niji's natural growth
>stop picking on midgets! fight someone your own size!
>LARPing as Vshojofags
>Holobubble is bursting
>foreign buff/global audience bad, muh local Nips good
>YouTube Japan trends
>Apex will only get more popular from now on!
>flexible creative freedom
>Holo's restrictive management will cause them to eventually graduate
>Cover uses bots

they're already announcing the teams, so I dont think they can reach 55k sadly

Main POV on Miko's channel kek, smart Shrine Maid

inb4 Coco shows up for a special guest apparence

Gura joining! Good day for god of numbers.

>not even putting the main POV on the official hololive channel
kek, Cover are retarded

>>11928391
I mean thats what they did last year though.

>>11927925
They normally post news on Reddit at the end of streams to lessen conflict or potential viewers passing on watching the stream because they already know the news

Compare that to Anykara posting links and teasers for Voicepacks or Wave 3 almost immediately when the NijiEN girls are still hyping up the "special announcement"

>>11928291
but they did... like a solid 5 minutes before you made your dumb post they beat him

>>11928398
this isnt a company managed event, its all talents.

50k and no sign of stall yet.

>>11928255
He's right though, how much did this year's koshien draft stream get?

This year sports fes will have Squid Game as well. Number prediction?

>>11928398
Anon, it's Minecraft. It's a handful of girls playing block game and organizing it on them own.

>>11928411
Why are you here chinksmaple?

>>11928425
>talent-managed event
>Cover management not lifting a finger to help the streamers
What else is new?

>>11928398
Niji I feel like is the dumb one for putting content like that on the main channel. it gives the focus to the company rather than the streamers themselves.

Imporant info so far
-6 teams
-Server's being upgraded to allow for 100+ People, since everyone knows that shit is laggy AF right now with even half of the holomem online
-Events listed, 1 more from last year
-Time ; Nov 6th 13;00pm JST (9pm PST/12midnight EST)
-Skins revealed for all EN/ID members

>>11928467
kek it'll be funny if they add a korean game or EN game. It's 2 weeks time, I wonder if they can add new games into the festival.

>>11928468
Nijisanji makes the effort to help their streamers organize events and put it on their official channel so that it has a stamp of Nijisanji legitimacy and quality, that's why Koshien can hit 200k and hololive will never achieve that.

The head to head is intense

>>11928503
thanks!

>>11928503
Events are the same as last year?

If Kuzuha gets killer he'll beat Miko and Mio possibly.

>>11928513
>stamp of Nijisanji legitimacy and quality
kek

>>11928255
I actually feel sad for nijischizo...
It's so retarded I don't even want to debate

>>11928474
Chinksmaple is the mod for the r/virtualyoutubers. T-chan is the mod for the Hololive sub

>>11928541
a few of them are going to be remade (the ones with an R at the end of them)

>>11928513
>that's why Koshien can hit 200k
On the main channel, befitting no streamer. That was dumb as fuck

They could easily have made a "home" and "away" on each streamers channel and spread the wealth

>>11928198
Why won't you compare her to Kuzuha's streams, especially since he's playing the same game?

>>11928503
thanks anon !

>>11928506
imagine being this EOP, japanese has Daruma. That's the very first thing I remembered when I saw that squid game

Pekomiko bros the dream is alive

>>11928560
Ok thanks

>Imaging Sports festival only has one POV
They will put niji baseball in shame forever...

Team announcement just started. A well produced show to maximize the numbers. They're not rushing and fully using the hour
>FUCKING POLKA, LEARN FROM THEM

>>11928513
when was the last time niji hit at least 100k? must be reclining, no more apex, no more koshien

>>11928578
Sorry, I'll confess. I'm an ESL.

thousands incline on the team making! Its gonna pass 55k!

>>11928500
>>11928562
Livers come and go but what benefits the company will benefit future livers.

>>11928563
I already did last thread retard. Your memeshark got fucking MOGGED so hard I'd be surprised if she has the audacity to stream tomorrow

>>11928560
>Entire company plays block game non-stop the entire year
>Ends up reclycling half of the content from the past event
C'mon now

for comparison, last year sport fes announced maxed at 55k, this is before youtube viewer correction

https://holo.poi.cat/stream/IFHswo53eS0
https://holo.poi.cat/stream/IFHswo53eS0
https://holo.poi.cat/stream/IFHswo53eS0

Red A
Pekora
Towa
Rushia
Watame
Sora
RBC
Okayu
AZKi

The boxpush is unreal

>>11928578
Squids game is literally just "as the gods will" but with the setting of Kaiji instead of random school kids getting dragged into it

>>11928634
>what benefits the company will benefit future livers.
I agree that that's Nijisanji overarching strategy. The results are still to be seen tho considering the livers at the top right now are all from the old guard and the newly entrants are pretty much boosters and fluffers to the ones at the top

>>11928623
only lacking, no promotions from EN and ID members, or even holo reddit. retards should help making the community hyped

>>11928664
Huh. I'm going to assume that EN and ID are going to be in a different pool to minimize the language barrier issue

>>11928634
Talk about soulless.
You wouldn't even care if all of the chubbas graduated so long as you keep the "Nijisanji" company name

>>11928690
There was less than 24 hours notice that they were going to make the announcement today.

Alright, looks like they've passed last year already (56k). Get FUCKED mr. recline.

holy shit, they go with max number team configuration

so far, team leader whose gonna be the team pov is pegor and marine

>>11928690
>retards should help making the community hyped
It's too early anon. This event is Mio/Miko's baby, they organize everything as they see fit.

Think of Akukin Relay and Mio/Marine organizing and leading, or Usaken Relay and Botan organizing and leading.
There is nothing special about this event that would make it "company organized", it's just Minecraft

>>11928467
Riding the hype like they did with the coffin meme

>>11928663
old record already beaten despite susan's "correction"

>>11928636
Hows your top streamer's original song going? has it yet to breakthrough this record?

I can say nobody in this thread expected this type of numbers, not even the shitposters.

>>11928724
using bots doesnt count

>>11928663
I gotta say Miko and Mio did a good job stalling it long enough to reach high peak.

>>11928754
How are your arms doing? Not tired from constantly moving goalposts?

>>11928724
>got 200% increase in overall subs from last year
>only increase by 1k CCV
Rumao, if that isn't reclining, then you retards don't know what is

>>11928634
This only means that Niji is fucked if the big talents leave, while Cover has spread the wealth that a big talent like Coco leaving has little impact on their overall numbers, despite Holo having a smaller group of streamers.

>>11928775
It's even a gradual incline unlike last year's spike when teams werr announced. People are tuned in and WAITING.

>>11928778
>GIVE ME A N
>GIVE ME A I
>GIVE ME A J
>GIVE ME A Í
>GIVE ME A Ç
>GIVE ME A E
>GIVE ME A O
>GIVE ME A P


WHAT DOES IT SPELL?

>>11928500
>it gives the focus to the company rather than the streamers themselves.
So far, it appears to be their winning recipe for good numbers, considering exposure is hardly the reason for their poor daily numbers.
Nijifans know who all these people are, they just choose not to watch them unless it a special or important stream.
A lot of Nijifans only watch and sub to a handful of livers, but will tune in to big company events if there are enough bodies/one body they care about.

Anycolor realized this and have found more success in bundling up a bunch of low CCV livers together into a show/special stream and getting more viewers for that than all the participants would've gotten on their own.
Ofc you could say these shows could be hosted on the liver's own channel, but hosting them on the main channel makes them feel like a bigger deal.

On the other hand, Cover doesn't host nearly as many of these company event streams and when they do, it's not as big of a boost since Holo talents usually get good daily numbers already and collab often.

Moona representative not Kronii wtf miko think bout the numbers!

>>11928812
>People are tuned in and WAITING.
Of course they are, they want to see where the EN girls will fall.

>>11928785
There's nothing to stall, this was always going to be a 1 hour stream where they announce the teams in the last 20 minutes.

In other news, stars' first concert.

>>11928352
Kek perfectly sum

>>11928634
Bruh, the new livers have terrible numbers despite having a big debut buff. It's clearly not working and might make new talents reconsider.

Edengumi has the steepest recline I've ever seen.

>>11928884
flop

>>11928778
small numbers
>FAILURE RECLINE GRADUATE WHEN
big numbers
>BOTS BOTS BOTS THIS DOESN'T COUNT
Make your fucking mind
>>11928804
last year stream> Hal's annoucement> Koshien> Gura Amongus
>>11928884
Oh right. They exist.

today is a race between miko's announcement and kuzuha's among us.

>>11928844
I mean they already have pekora and marine for red team already.

>>11928804
Don't forget to take your small dog syndrome meds anon!

Pekora!!! Delay your fucking stream by atleast 15mins!!

Marine and peko in team red. This event is rigged. I guess aqua and gura+shion in team white.

Btw, Miko beats Jun, at least today.

>>11928884
Why does Astel have an afro? hahahahahhaha

can it hit 60k?

AAAA We're feasting in numbers today!!!
>>11928884
Astel wtf is that hairstyle

>>11928884
It'll do well enough and be a success given their numbers, but since everyone's minds are numberrotted they'll call them failures even if they get pretty good viewership relative to their daily numbers.

>>11928506
Guess Ayame will not participate this year

>>11928922
are you joking? It'll sell out.

>>11928941
Eops dont know IDshit tho. I hope Gura is the other EN representative

>>11928832
you bring up a good point. niji streams big events on the main channel to boost the brand while holo does it on their own channels. to me, it makes the holo streamers feel less corporate and more like "friends doing things together" vibe while the niji one feels "official". both approaches work in their own way.

>>11928884
How do you even numberfag concerts.

>>11928922
>>11928961
>>11928973
>>11928923
You all laugh, but watch as the reason for their inclination is the afro.

Do we have an afro vtuber? None.

>>11928956
having flare and botan in other team will probably balance it out hopefully.

>>11929008
She will. It probably aqua, flare and gura on blue team.

>60k

>>11928966
Yup

This thread is sleeping on Melody's chaturbate numbers and I'm tired of pretending you aren't

>>11928623
>Azki participate
HECK YEAHHH

>>11928506
>it'll be funny if they add a korean gam-

>>11929046
fucking post it then dumbass

>>11929046
Go post them anon. If you want things to discuss, post the numbers here..

>>11928956
they have Moona and the speedrunner Fauna ffs

but we still have Fubuki and Aqua for Blue, so I guess it helps

>>11929071
She got ~12k yesteday playing fucking Bejeweled. I can only assume she pulls 30-50k for birthday streams but nobody archives the numbers from CB so it all remains shrouded in mystery.

>>11929081
Fubuki is under Marine's team.

>>11928634
Uwaaaa the souless mentality of corpo bootlicker! So this is the true face of nijiniggers. Not caring about the ningen

Two minutes to the top of the hour, if Pekora starts now this is likely to take a hit and be under 65k

>>11929017
You only say this because you guys have no idea of the collabs that happen on other people's channels, a main channel collab is like 1/8th of non-regular or event collabs. Like unit collabs, album stuff, post concert collabs, games hosted by the livers like the soccer tournament that had fags screaming about LE SULTAN in here, PokeUnite, Mario Kart, etc.

>>11929008
EOPs are the only ones watching HoloID, because ID people don't watch vtubers.
Look at the numbers for NijiID and Mahas5.

I didn't expect the sports fes to get 60k, I thought Kuzuha would win quite easily.

>>11929081
Fbk is in red team B marine team.

>>11929110
Ah shit, Blue team is screwed. I didn't hear it clearly

>>11929017
Somehow I feel Niji cares for their brand too much that sometimes it hurts their vtuber

>>11929105
If there is no tracking site regularly tracking these numbers it would be complicated to numberfag it.

>>11929130
You the guy who lowballed Miko's stream? Kek

hopefully next year/tournament they do draft picking to even spike the number even harder.

Marine, Peko, Subaru, Aqua (?) damn those are big hitters

>>11928951
btw Botan delayed hers by 10 minutes

White A:
Shuba leader
Botan Choco Ayame Luna Mel Korone

Do you think this minecraft team announcement stream would've benefitted numberwise if they went nijisanji's koushien route of having a stream where captains draft members?

>>11929158
B-but I thought Holo cared about their brand top much... isn't that why they fired Coco?

>>11929150
They have subaru and ayame on team a BLUE

>Ayame
+50K viewers for the event

pekora started her stream...

Subaru team leader, clearly they're going for the ratings. They put Luna, Botan and Choco as they are a good unit (SubaChocoLunaTan)

Plus Ayame to super boost this POV

Pekora - Azki & RBC
Marine - Aki, matsuri
Subaru - Mel, Luna, Choco

They really going to boxpush these retards

>>11929224
If they care so much about that, they would fire Coco after Taiwan yabe, not one year after

Looks like Sports Festival is the yearly thing like Koshien, I'm glad.
Holo needed something like that.

>>11929243

>>11928811
>big talent
>Coco
hahahahahahahahaha

>>11929220
A lot more, Cover are just incompetent at the numbers game. They should've been hyping this up weeks before hand.

>>11929276
They still have that school event in the works. I don't know how they're going to do that.

>>11929220
absolutely, letting the team captain trash talk each other while picking members would add entertainment value(and also feed shizophrenic rrats for weeks)

>>11929230
is Ayame even good at minecraft or she still docchiing like a mofo?

>>11929267
>Subaru - Mel, Luna, Choco
These are already a "unit" dummy. MeltyKiss, SubaChocoLuna + Botan on occasion

>>11929122
When I say bundle, I'm talking about events and shows like Nijiquiz, Chigusa/Maimoto's show, Nijinoon...etc.
Then there's the official tournaments like mahjong, mario kart, Nijiapex...etc that get 100k.
Ofc there are collabs that do well on liver channels as well, like how Maimoto was the main POV for koshien last year, but when it comes to efficiency, it's really efficient to bunch a bunch of <4k livers and get 20k on the main channel.

Team Blue C will probably be Myth + Bae, Iofi and Risu with Gura as the team leader. Moona will still get high number because Mumei, Kronii, Fauna and Irys are there. Collectively they should collect 30k alone. Maybe they will be the lowest though

>>11929081
>>11929150
>>11929230
>blue
your kanji reps...

>>11929292
She was the top SC earner during her tenure in Hololive. Good enough to numberfag.

I like they are putting all their heavy hitters as team leaders for max veiws, except Ayame. Because she is very lazy.

>>11928884
2,021 people max capacity

>>11929319
early december / late november ?

>>11929220
It works for Koshien because ultimately they're just using the liver's names, and the characters are controlled by AIs.

This is an active game where the Chuubas are actively playing. Imagine the shitshow that would happen if your oshi was chosen last because it implies (not good at MC) (not a team player) etc

>>11929327
Probably not but her appearance is a boost for numbers.

>>11929292
like it or not anon, coco was a big talent in hololive. She created big events, earned big sc, and generally had a big influence on the company and its talents. This isnt really for the numbers thread though.

>>11929267
>Subaru boxpushing Luna and Choco
They're picking for chemistry, the teams mainly consist of existing groups that already collab well together on stream.

>>11929349
Moona…

>>11929242
Pekora? I thought you're a fucking numberfag? Why!!!!
>>11929267
Don't disrespect my cute Luna, she's not that low

>>11929349
Wait for it, Team C leader is going to be Kiara.

In other news : Polka will join this circus troupe as a quest on their 1st Live concert.

>>11929158
>>11929017
Somehow I feel like it's the usual people who never watching niji anything and pulling lotsa shit from their ass as usual. Wonder why?

>>11929377
Yeah, it might actually hurt the box pushing Holo is going for.

>>11929401
It should've been Kronii!!!
Moona is just as autistic as Kronii afterall

>>11929305
This is purely a member driven project so this is Miko's decision to preview it today. If Cover was involved was in charge 100% they would have released alongside the event like Niji