/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>11847615
Hololive is the Apple of Vtubing

>>11847615
>why didnt holo collab with this literal leech, i dont get it

Uto is a backstabbing sociopath and avoiding her is a smart move.

>>11847615
>a niji
Chiichan is an apex addict. They were on an apex team together. Nothing to do with "niji" loving Uto.

So bloated with overhead and other expenses that if they lost any of their numbers they would break their neck.

Who's the Madoka ripoff?

Why would anyone need/want to collab with her though?
Does her existing automatically warrant everyone collabing with her? Are you perhaps retarded, faggot OP?

>>11847912
The name is written right there.

you can have this shameless leech, well deserved for nijfags

I'm gonna tell you. Ever since she appeared, a bunch of faggots, some of them from amecord aka the worst part of Amelia's fanbase, started to pester her non-stop about Uto. As a result Amelia had to pretty much tell those faggots to cool it down, that they are not close to begin with. That and the whole shitshows that she and her fanbase seem to get resulted in management not wanting anything to do with her.
tl;dr: faggots tried to force a relation and ended up causing a huge right.

>>11847965
>Implying /vt/fags are not EOPs

>>11847615
Uto never streams anyway.

>>11847615
Yagoo let the fame that his agency accidentally stumbled upon get to his head that he thinks he can survive without the rest of the industry, so he locked down hololive into its own little island. He also thinks the popularity will last long enough that the global fanbase will play his Second Life + Genshin Impact clone that Cover is launching in two years.

>>11848141
Like Apple

>>11847615
Japan is intelligent enough to ignore co workers instead of shit talking and analyzing them back. They don't shit where they eat.

>>11848722
What does that even mean in this situation

>>11847615
Hasn't both Ollie and Ina collabed with members of Voms and Vshouji before? Seems like Ollie especially does off-hololive collabs often too.

>>11847615
Chii never forgets her APEX friends

>>11848065
Also YAGOO indirectly took a jab at her by saying "competitors use the artists we commissioned to get through loopholes against us" so he doesn't approve of outside sisters very much

>>11847615
Dogshit management that seems set on debuffing the company as much as possible.

>>11854060
Still the dumbest thing I've ever heard him say.

>>11854453
>>11854060
Source on where he said that?

>>11853960
you mean fellow addicts

>>11847615
Because her"cousin" is a leech and literally seethes at the all the attention Nabi sensei gives Uto.

>>11847615
why is a Blue Madoka in there?

>>11854861
money must be a gooooooodlol anodyne

>>11854060
Isn't this the same logic Enstarschizos use to shit on Tokomachi's new song? I guess it's less Enstars fans being schizos and more all nips being retarded

>>11847615
Avoiding yab magnets.

>>11854060
Assuming this isn't a mistranslation YAGOO's sounding like more of a faggot by the day and having him humiliate himself by wearing KFP aprons isn't softening his image any

>>11854060
(You)

>>11847615
Literally a leech that stole ame's design

>>11847615
Do you think they would get an instant hololive collab just because they hired the same artist?

>>11847615
Uto LOVE

This is now a Chii-chan thread.

>>11847615
By what merit should she be entitled to collab with anybody in hololive

Did her eop fanbase left her or are they still going strong?

Uto cuto

Uto has not interacted or collabed with a single Holo.
Why on earth would any of them show up to her 3D stream.

I say this as someone who likes Uto, there is simply no reason for any holo girl to be there.

>>11847615
chiichan is retarded

Uto is human trash. The fact that she still has fans is amazing.

>>11860422
Everybody dropped her once the china deal happened

>>11862461
China deal?

>>11862493
How do you think she got a 3D

Is there a more iconic cover in vtubing than this one?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BSSJi-sHh8

>>11847615
>she collabed with Selen before Ame
Do you really expect the girl criticized for claming up during collabs to collab with someone outside of her circle with a language barrier?

>>11862750
China deal. Not money or rented from the same company that cover uses.

thinking that people with the same artist should be socially obligated to collab is stupid. it's like being forced to go to a family christmas party where you don't really know or care about anybody.

>>11847771
Yeah, Chihiro, Kanzaki and Selen had collabs with her for coincidence.

>>11847615
They learned their lesson when Kiara collabed with Nyanners.
As a result Pink cat bitch inclined, while now Kiara whines why there is less and less KFP watching her, they went to check Vwhore and never came back.

>>11847615
She'd take over the planet if she streamed regularly and it scares the shit out of several anons.

Why the fuck would she collab with Ame

>>11863186
You need a personality to do that. The "Ames sister" trait can only carry you so far

If you're just starting out then you definitely should get holo artist to design a character for you. Holo fans are this weird where some feel like they have to support someone just because they have the same artist which makes you wonder if they actually like the vtuber or just the artist.

>>11863356
It may have worked in 2020, but.after what's happened with Uto and the fact that it was clearly a blatant attempt to leech, not so much. You can go ahead and use the same artist, that isn't the issue. The issue is, using the same artist purely as an attempt to leech and try and 'force' a connection that would otherwise not exist. No one cares that Flare and Lain share an artist, for example.

>>11863356
That is insanely wrong. Why dont Naname Luto and Kana have 3million subs? Or if we want to stay on topic, why dont Uto Kogane Rena Tomo-chan and Alice Mana have 1mil+ subs

>holobronies will never stop streaming
Elmao.

>>11854565
>>11859055
Can't find the English TL'd clip anymore, but here's the relevant bit with Chinese subs:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6F81JgCTebU

The question posed to Yagoo was what his anti-copyright infringement strategy was.

He responded saying artists have the rights to their designs, so others can't use exact copies. However there is a loophole when someone creates a design that looks similar.

>>11865986
He's salty. I hope he's so salty he dies from high blood pressure.

>>11854861
>Ame
>Leech
Stop taking drugs anon, she is everything but a leech, just look at her collabs, Roboco Mel Ollie or Towa are not very popular holos to leech it, if anything she is more a saviourfag or a unityfag

>>11866160
>unityfag
>only collabs with the black sheep of the company
She wants out now that she has money.

>>11861978
Matsuri and Calli have interacted with her in her chat

>>11866204

>>11863551
That's what Naname tried to do though. She had an existing vtuber model but wasn't doing too well. She tried to first boost her views by putting Hololive members and Uto in her video tags. Then she commissioned Nacho to make her a new model, deleted all of her old videos and made few tweets in English expecting to duplicate Uto's success.

>>11866271
I didn't because I'm not the same guy who made the accusation. But also, riding on the back of the japs who made the company big then throwing hissyfits and arguing with the fanbase, etc. is not somewhat leeching? If she was so great she could have been big without the brand, don't you think?

>>11866320
Nah, this was more a feedback, Hololive won exposure thanks to HoloMyth and HoloMyth gained tons of exposure, it was more a perfect storm than taking views from the JP branch, is not like they had millions of EOP watching them to start with

>>11866522
Dude they started with close to 300k subs and I remember someone even complained that how easy it is for them. obviously a lot of EOPs watched the jps so they had an instant fanbase. Although it was mostly the clippers' work, I agree.

>>11866579
I can't argue to that it was easy for them being in Hololive, but you really can't call it a leeching considering that the 2 parts won a lot with this, as I said it was the perfect storm, the english fanbase being already in Hololive, all people being at home because Covid pandemic, clippers, being in the exact moment Hololive was being a boom and algorithm doing a favor

>>11866854
As I said, I did not make the accusation, but then what about gen 2? Do they also deserve the sudden fame? Hololive is generally bad for the entire industry, only good for itself.

>>11866936
At this point council didn't do anything remarkable so is better to wait, if in one year they did nothing then...

>>11863551
Take out Uni’s 100K+ none of Fubuki’s sisters have gotten any kind of real recognition simply for having the same artist. I’d put Uni’s success more down to her actually being a decent watch, and having pretty damn good English so she is welcoming to both the Nips and EOPs.

>>11854060
Based. Fuck them leeches.

>>11867060
>council didn't do anything remarkable
I'd say they beating the previous gen in SCs is remarkable. This is entirely the fanbase's fault though. Literally the apple way of thinking, it's newer so it's better.
Also, I generally don't give a shit about any leeching because it's an entertainment industry, if the entertainers work together it's more fun for me, it's only the retard managers who seethe about this because of potentially lost money and similar bullshit. Stop calling Uto a leech, she got more than enough backlash already, and if you want to say anything bad about her, then remember you also say that about Nabi, half of Niji at this point, half of the apex pro scene, a lot of indies, clippers, and generally everyone not in holo because everyone is on her side. And remember that she even played with one holo offscreen and several visited her streams and commented on her positively.

>>11863551
Because they didnt just blatantly leeching on holo like Uto did. Saying she is Ame sister and shit

>Hololive is the apple of vtubing
Since when was this Nijicope being used? Have I been away too long?

>>11867208
Keep seething.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AlDL8c5zXRQ

>>11867178
When I called Uto something? I didn't even talk about her at all, on the contrary I was saying that Ame was the least leech ever

>>11867328
I can imagine you did it in the past, don't try to lie.

>>11867347
Nope, I liked her content, the only shady thing was the Chinese company supporting her in the shadows and the tags, if anything that company did her very dirty and ruined everything, now it's on you to still think I told something

>>11867498
>Chinese
Any proofs? Because it makes you look a little dumb to believe such 4chan rrats.

>>11867103
Didn't Uni takeover a channel that already had a bunch of subs?

>>11867643
Yeah, which is why I took out whatever subs she has. She’s doing fine on her own though, and I’d put that more to who she is rather than looking like Fubuki.

>>11866283
The fuck? i did not know she has other model before the nachotypeface.

>>11868075
She used to upload IRL videos before that. Those were actually her most popular videos, her most viewed video had over 1M views. She also collabed with Uto before Uto got her Nabi model, which is why I think she was confident that she could duplicate her success.

>Uto isn't leeching off of Hololive!
Explain this then, if I was Mori I'd sue the bitch
https://files.catbox.moe/0by6ib.webm

>>11869844
SNIIIIIIIIIFFFF

Man, Rena is crazy as fuck.

>>11868251
You don't happen to have the collabs archived?

>>11847646
You dropped your image, king.

>>11847615
> Lied about being an indie
> Lied again after people found out, claiming she was able to become an indie
> Manipulates her fans, who believe she can do no wrong because she acts like a retard
> leech
Sounds pretty based to me

>>11877191
Also,
>literally no proof for any of this, also hundreds of people, dozens of them big name industry people with their faces in the public also partaking in the lies and deceiving while not gaining anything from it

>>11877279
Congratulations, the third line applies to you. Especially considering she herself admitted she lied about being an indie.

>>11877191
>Anonymouse lies
Kizuna Ai is gone and is now opens a bakery. The channel is owned by a saudi prince. Believe this factual post. Anonymous never lies.

>>11877375
What if I'm also on in the big conspiracy? You could never know! Can you prove the Earth is not flat?

wait she looks like Amelia Watson from Hololive

who is this?!?!

>>11877379
Except we already know exactly what happened with Kizuna AI, downplaying it like a idiot will not make it any less true

>>11877667
Go die, holotourist.

>>11877924
The only idiot is you, rrat poster. Go on. Give me your witty comebacks.

>>11847615
holo only collab with other 1M subs chuba

>>11877191
> Manipulates her fans, who believe she can do no wrong because she acts like a retard
More like both her and her fans are a bunch of retarded apes. She lost her own general threads on /vt/ because she's too busy fucking pro apex players and now she's lost her discord server because of some mess with her nazi tranny jannies. Truly some karmic retribution going on.

>>11878180
Holy shit, how out of things can you be. Jesus Christ this is hilarious.

>>11854060
leeches seething

>>11878180
Her fans will never leave. They just seethe about Templex because they are SEAfags like him but can't do collabs with Uto like him.

>>11878180
This is real? I mean, I know the part where she fucks pro players is an exaggeration, but the rest?

>>11878180
>This nigger thinks /vt/ is the center of the vtubing world that losing a general here is a disaster
Kek

>>11867563
>4chan rrats
Where do you think you are?

>>11878423
Her server with 15-20k members is gone. They deleted everything either today or yesterday.

>>11878423
No, you are almost as dumb as the other anon.

>>11878413
No one seething about Temp. Where did you even get that.

>>11878423
Yes, Vt never lies and is totally not a containment board for antis because aloe happened.

>>11878180
All those pro apex players and nazi tranny jannies? Me.

Why do Narcummies treat this literal Angel like chinks treat Coco?

>>11878477
Utocucks had their own tranny server to discuss her, which was why you retards didn't mind having a general right? You faggots couldn't even keep your own server going. Cope harder KEK

>>11878618
Naru who? Right, exactly, lol.

>>11878574
Rpr, please.

>>11847615
Because she's a liar, leech and scammer.

>>11878641
Post proof of the server dying retard. Dont be spouting shit and expect to be taken seriously.

>>11878677
You got paid, shitartist.

>>11854060
Newfags don't know how common this practice is. You think he was talking about Uto who looks nothing like Ame and is a recent chuuba? Meet Nijisanjisi very own fox, Enemy-chan

>>11878723

>>11878708
Dude, you are wasting your time. That retard failed to notice a new server was made and everyone moved there about a week ago. But what can you expect from his kind.

>>11878723
Cover has no rights in preventing artist from accepting work from indies.

>>11878708
The server is literally gone you fucking chimp.

>>11878708
NTA but the Uto discord did nuke itself. Good riddance. All the jannies in there had huge egos and made questionable decisions.

>>11878723
Almost every company has their own Fubuki at this point

>>11878751
>everyone
>doesn't even have 5% of the members from the last server
my fucking sides jesus christ

>>11878764
>>11878792
Holy shit turboretards the new server is up for at least a week, stop sucking dick for a moment.

>>11878764
I need screencap fucker. I need them rrats please gimme.
>>11878751
Is it still official, with uto in it or just a bunker type server?

>>11878745
wait, does fubuki have 3 different eye before?

>>11878833
retard

>>11878819
The other server had much more things going on, not only her fanbase, but how would you know.

>>11878833
Yes and no, they don't want the same privacy issue that forced the wipe of the old server.

>>11878711
Exposure is not pay

>>11878832
Why was the server gone?

>>11878763
Yes and? This is literally what yagoon said. Read the reply chain you ESL nigger

>>11878906
Why don't you read the statement the released? It was even posted here back then.

My rrat for the server dying is that Uto will be making an official Discord with YT membership integration.

>>11854060
>>11854565

I didnt think people would remember that post, but i still have the link to it
https://archive.nyafuu.org/vt/thread/10231126/

>>10231126

>>11878919
>Defending monopoly
Corporate bootlicker. Hololive is truly the Apple of Vtube.

>>11878958
That was literally the original server.

>>11878968
That word has been thrown around 4chan so much that it has lost any meaning it originally had

>>11878958
>Not just repurposing the old server

>>11879006
>I dont like word lets gaslight it
Retard.

>>11847615
Niji is basically indies anyway.

>>11847615
Maybe because she has really no interactions with any of them? Ifnshe starts getting interactions with them, maybe Ollie since she's an Apex addict then they might join in.

>>11879137
>50k sub on debut
No.

>>11878993
>>11879016
It was a fan made server that got added to the description, but she wasn't the owner. It would be easier and more secure to have an official server with YT membership integrations instead of some jannie looking at some screen shot of your membership join date.

>>11879096
In what universe does Hololive have a monopoly over anything? You clearly have no idea what the word monopoly means, if hololive had a monopoly not a single other vtuber company would be allowed to exist and you would be forced to watch only hololive, not only is that not true but actual idol companies are more popular than hololive
You are a braindead gigaretard ESL that is just spouting random words he saw on 4chan without even knowing the english language

>>11879137
fucking retard

>>11878993
The server essentially lost its endorsed "official" status once the jannies informed Uto that they no longer wanted to run it. She left and that's apparently the reason why she started removing the link from her YouTube video descriptions.

>>11879205
I know, but she was in close contact with the staff and they helped her a lot. That's why they couldn't give it to anyone else.
Also, how would that integration work? They stopped using that whatever software because it was not safe, and hence the screenshots.

>>11879384
That's because they were using a 3rd party plugin to do it. From what I remember, there were issues with that. Discord offers full integration for that if Uto were to set it up herself. https://support.discord.com/hc/en-us/articles/215162978-Youtube-Channel-Memberships-Integration-FAQ

>>11879208
>Hololive has no monopoly
>Most superchatted ever
>Most subbed
>EN gets carried by brand alone
>B--but please dont draw for indies please it will hurt our smor company
Hololive is a black company, you fucking corporate bootlicker shill, seethe more.

>>11879334
You know nothing m8. They discussed the matter and since the server is gone why would it be in her description. She named her album after the server for a reason.

>>11879453
She used to have the link to her server in her description for a while you fucking moron. It was only a month or two ago that she started removing it.

>>11879548
Yes, because the admins told her they can't manage the server anymore and it will be gone. Are you slow?

>>11879446
So who forced these people to superchat? Who forced these people to sub? You still have no idea what the word monopoly means

>>11879579
That's literally what I said, retard? Jesus christ I knew Uto had a lot of ESLfags watching her but I didn't know they'd be this fucking stupid.

>>11879208
>Apple has no monopoly over anything, or other companies wouldn't be allowed to make phones or laptops, and you couldn't send your green messages to itards, etc
satania.apng

>>11879632
You implied she just left or something, but that didn't happen. The server would be still in the description if it was up, because she loved it, that's why she named the fucking album after it. Retard.

>>11875466
Naname has one of the Apex collabs still available, just unlisted: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59CRnIv_tJk

>>11879704
Thank you for letting me know that you have the reading comprehension skills of a 2 year old. Now fuck off cuck.

ITT Holocucks seething over someone trying to make it as a indie Vtuber

>>11866079
why are nijisisters like this?

>11879840
You lose the indie tag if you are backed up by a corpo. Which I'm sure you know and are farming for (You)s

>>11879718
Yeah I know this one, was hoping for the others.

>>11879891
>>11879859
>>11879773
Keep seething, holomentals. Your meds are on the way, try to not smear shit on the walls.

>>11847615
>why didn't holos she's never met show up for her 3D debut?
OP are you fucking retarded?

>>11879629
>Free will argument
99% of internet is some company wanting to sell you something. Guess what cover sells? And how they sell them?

>>11879905
I have some privated Naname streams archived but none with Uto.

>>11879891
Stop gaslighting Uto chan.

>>11880091
How
Is
That
A
Monopoly

Learn english you disabled troglodyte

>>11880151
What do normie answer when they are asked about vtubers, it will be hololive.

>>11880151
You are the dumbest fucking gorilla holobronie I ever seen.
I bet you think when technically something else on the market exist, but the fans refuse to "buy" it then it's not a monopoly.

>>11879446
>Hololive is a black company
>Source: dude trust me

>>11880252
It is a black company. What are you going to do censor me?

>>11879629
It's me, I am the Man Who Forces People To Superchat Hololive.

>>11880216
So lets say hololive didnt exist but everyone had the same numbers, you would then be calling nijisanji a monopoly? Braindead imbecile

>>11880326
Does niji act the same as cover?

>>11880352
No, they act worse by buying ads on rival companies streams that are still on-going. You know... so they can actually establish a artificial monopoly

>>11880317
Please, no more akasupa I need to eat.

>>11880384
thats not a monopoly either

>retard using Niji to attack Holo again
Fuck you nigger go and stand using your own argument instead of dragging us down

>>11880384
Niji is backed by sony. They can afford to that. Cover would if they could.

>>11880384
No no, niji allows their talents to collab with pretty much everyone and they don't spew laughable bullshit like "competitors look for loopholes by getting a similar avatar to a holo" and bullshit like that.

>uto shills derail thread by making it niji vs holo

hehe idiots we got them bros

>>11878723
>A white fox
OH NO, The originality of Fubuki, dashed away

>>11880300
>It is a black company.
You have absolutely no proof that Hololive is a black company. You know how I know that? Because no proof exists. You're just a retarded schizo and/or jealous 2view.

>>11880473
No she is Cat xddddzs

>>11880481
Okay shill. All the yabs didnt happen.

>>11880444
You got it wrong fellow tenshimp, nijis are our friends so I defend them.

>>11880384
You need to not use words you don't understand the meaning of

>>11880481
>Cue Veibae's rant fueled by the China branch conversations

Also are we just gonna forget every single Coco stream during her grad month just soft ball accusing Cover of being that?

>>11880516
>Okay shill. All the yabs didnt happen.
Prove Hololive is a black company. Go ahead, Anon. Do it now. Oh wait you can't lmao

>>11880522
Keep saying that I'm starting to think that actually what it means.

>>11878871
In case you don't bait, cover has no original character design, all of them are ripoffs or existing characters from anime, video games, etc.

>>11880563
You mean the rants that, if you look at the contents, are either full of utter bullshit she made up or someone fed to her? Look, cover is garbage for how they treated Coco, based for pulling out of China, and fucktarded with their restrictions, but Black Company they are not. Upd8, THAT was a black company. Anycolor is also nowhere near being a black company, despite how they handled things with Lulu.

>>11880584
You can't censor me as well because accoring to you I'm rambling like a shizo. Cope.

>>11880444
more like there is nothing else left to discuss about a chink corpo tuber

>>11880664
Seethe harder.

>>11880648
>are either full of utter bullshit she made up or someone fed to her
COVER CANT DO NO WRONG
NEVERMIND WHEN THEY HAD TO LITERALLY SAY NOTHING THEY WAITED NO SECONDS TO STATE THE GUY ON TOWA'S STREAM WAS NOT THEIR MANAGER AND SHE WAS LYING
Cover dindu nuffin

>>11880563
>Veibae's rant
You mean Veibae's rant where her source was literally "dude trust me"?

>soft ball accusing Cover
Coco never accused Hololive of being a black company.

>>11880719
Cover can do wrong. Everyone is just waiting for the next fuckup to call out/defend it.

>>11847615
>why is hololive so isolationist
>nene literally just played apex with kotone and chico
you watch too few clips anon

>>11880444
More like it was tribalist shitpost thread from the start but some schizos tried to make it about Uto.

>>11880770
This is the real monopoly. When they know they can do something shady because they sure can get away with anything because the braindead fanbase will defend them.

>>11880719
I'd rather believe a japanese salaryman than some random british whore with her yeasty vagina upset that she got denied from hololive and decided to shittalk them with 0 proof or merit

>>11880781
It's a bait thread.

>>11880563
Coco had nothing but praise for cover when she graduated. She loves the company and fully supports them.

>>11880781
NTA but I don't watch h*lolive at all, clips or otherwise.

>>11880807
Cope Holoshill how many yen are you being paid

>>11880810
A bait thread on /vt/? No way.

>>11880652
>ask you to prove your assertion that Hololive is a black company
>you don't even attempt to prove it
Sasuga schizochama.

>>11880839
0yen
I'll even call you a dumbass for free

>>11880807
That is very detailed description of vei.

>>11880866
>he does it for free
Yikesville.

>>11880824
I would agree with that sentiment, if JP Management was magically removed from the Company image. She literally never stopped telling her viewers they throttled, penalized, restricted, or otherwise ignored her
This isn't some rrat shit either, it's basically on every Grad Month video where she isn't collabing

>>11880810
he got my (You) damn :(

>>11880855
We're not in court, bucko. I dont need to testify shit.

>>11880824
She loves and supports the talents, aka the girls
Not cover and definitely not management

>>11880781
>Reine just finished with an ID from Niji too
All we need now is Myth/Council to meet with the Niji10. Kiara and Mori seem to be attempting that at least

>>11847615
it's not Hololive, it's Ame
if HoloEN actually push for collabing with someone outside, they tend to get it (like Mori with Milky)
most just don't care enough for non-Holos

>>11880987
Has Ame willingly collabed with non Holos?

>>11880987
Thank fuck, I don't want that breadeater near my oshi.

>>11880838
the only chuubas i watch are nene and millie anyway
i won't hold it against you

>>11880987
You have to wonder how much a submissive cuck Gura was to break her non-collabing mantra for the single most lackluster collab in her entire existence with nacho-mama

like what did Nacho hold over her, for her to relent

>>11881046
she likes her mama? Gura is more sociable than Ame in the first place, fucking Ina collabed with Nabi before her

>>11880987
Probably for the better, the only overlap they would have is Apex, and they are polar opposites
Uto pretends to be bad and disinterested, but is an intense sweaty and tryhard
Ame claims she's good and a tryhard, but just ends up quitting some 5-6 matches in, then another 2-3 after she "stops streaming
Highly likely Ame would tilt for being in Uto's higher skill lobbies, or Uto would tilt over Ame being dead weight

>>11880940
>I dont need to testify shit
But schizochama, why should anyone believe an assertion you can't prove?

>>11879446
Having the best numbers doesn't make you a monopoly you retard, monopoly is when you are the only company delivering a service, if anything Hololive, Nijisanji, Vshojo and another minor companies have an oligarchy

>>11881135
>Uto pretends to be bad and disinterested
She doesn't. She's just not a very good player.

>>11881107
Ame has stated that she doesnt want to collab outside hololive because she knows whoever is collabing with her will be harassed and called a leech. Fucking Moona still to this day gets called a leech for """""stealing"""""" pekoras viewers

>>11881107
Highly unlikely, she didn't know of or specifically request Nacho to do Gura's art work, and probably didn't even know who she was. If she was social, it wouldn't have been an hour and 45 of the most dead and dry collab in Gura's entire history

>>11881166
This fucking age old fallacy. Remember when amd chips were shit and intel also used bribes and other tactics to cancel them, so their marketshare was like 0.7%? Now that wasn't a monopoly because there was another company selling a product!

>>11881152
Because It's so obvious to anyone with a fucking brain that it's the truth. Bet you think earth was flat too, umbass.

>>11881190
That's very ironic because everyone loved Uto and was hyping on the sister thing until Ame said what she said and then some shitheads started to wage a war against Uto. Ame literally caused all of it, period.

>>11881221
>its real in my head
lmao

>>11881267
You are the crazy one here. Take your meds.

>>11881175
>Won the Reignite Cup #2 with Restya
>High ranking and on leaderboard
Yea no. You can call her a leech all day, but she is by no means bad at Apex. ESPECIALLY when compared with her sister

If she didn't have Nabi as an illustrator and if she didn't leech of the Holos with YT tags she'd be a nobody.
I wonder why some fags still pretend like that isn't the case.

>>11880855
Not that anon, but wouldn't having proof that absolute, being so readily available, be already in the public know and used against said company?

Holobass had some janky ass allegations that ended up being true, and Cover didn't even flinch, so proof that concrete would've either been dismissed or removed

>>11881288
Why dont you show us how crazy we are by posting the proof then
Unfortunately "I've seen it in a dream" doesn't really qualify as proof sorry.

>>11881371
And hololive doesn't have monopoly they said.

>>11881288
>>11881267

>>11881221
>The truth is obvious that's why I'm totally unable to prove it
Come on now schizochama, this is just getting sad

>>11881432

>>11863551

>>11881351
Not saying she's bad, but she's not a pro level player. Remember they lost vsakyou so spectacularly. In Rignite she had to literal pros carrying her. Also apex is unfairly luck based, you can't really be a consistently good player. See how Selen "trust me I was predator" Tatsuki killed the number one player recently.

>>11881488
Cope. Hololive is a black company.

>indie
Wasn't she found out as being bankrolled by some chink company?
I don't know why some of you simp for a literal fake indie

>>11881371
>>11881504
Uto wasn't a nobody before she became a vtuber. she also had like 40k subs or so on her channel. Tons of people cheered at her when she debuted because they knew her from before.

>>11881371
Then by this logic, what is Kana struggling to hold 1000 concurrent viewers? Why is Luto lucky to have even 300 viewers? Why is donut dead on arrival every single time?

Having one famous creation doesn't guarantee a following, especially if the talent can't hold said exposure

>>11854060
Assuming this isn't a mistranslation YAGOO's sounding like more of a GigaChad by the day, holy based

>>11881544
Everything in vtubing is fake. Nothing is real. If reading a script would make better zatsudans they would.

>>11881558
I love how you conveniently leave out the point about leech tags

>>11881595
Doesnt work.

>>11881595
I love how you conveniently leave out that everyone on yt does the same, holos did the same, and she got rid of them and still managed to get 580k subs, which is more than what Ange Katrina has, because she had clippers and she's entertaining.

>>11881554
Then she sold out to EOPs. Wonder how those guys felt.

>>11881519
>Hololive is a black company
>source: dude trust me
And now you've timelooped back to square one. Pathetic.

>>11881514
Literally no one ever has said she is a pro level player, retard?

>>11881686
If you closely followed her you'd know. Here's a hint: at some point they expressed their regret over abandoning her, and apologized.

>>11881686
There is nothing bad with learning english, at least she learned some english unlike most holos
t.holofan

>>11881696
Hololive's talents said the N-word on stream. Do you want video footage of it?

>>11881719
Doing 1 single duolingo stream right after her debut doesnt make her a english expert

>>11881696
Hololive is a gray company.

>>11881514
Before we start:
Forced 50 is not a real thing
Nor is shadowpooling

She's consistently Diamond+, and if she was as luck driven as you assume, she'd be down at upper gold or lower plat by now

Also, when did anyone say she was pro?

>>11877939
calm down nijibrony, this thread isn’t even about nijisanji

>>11881704
So they stayed or did they left anyway?

>>11881757
>>11881698
Do you consider dia players good? Are you bronze league heroes?

>>11881734
Just in the first week she had 5 learning streams, just checked, why do you lie?

>>11881719
Let's be real. Most holos more know english than they show on stream. They just don't want baka gaijins spamming chat if they speak fluently.

>>11881734
No one said she's expert, but still better than most holojps.

>>11881793
Nice. And how many after that.
0

>>11881844
That's not true and you know it.

>>11881818
To be honest I would believe that but not for not wanting EOPs but because their JP fans would be angry at this, Chama english used to be better before than now

>>11847615
Japan doesn't do the "personal lolcow" bullshit. only Americans do that.

only Americans are as mentally ill and childish to expose their own friends and coworkers

>>11881854
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCdYR5Oyz8Q4g0ZmB4PkTD7g/search?query=duolingo
She will never fuck you by the way

>>11881844
Her last english stream was last month.

>>11881844
I counted like 13 or 14 kek, anon, is easy to do a counting on her channel, stop lying if you don't even do your reps

>>11881868
Thank you for proving my point, also I WILL fuck her.

>defending someone that sold out to chinks
/vt/ gets closer and closer to /trash/ every day

>>11881867
Japan instead go full frontal and knock on their front door and approach them on the streets.

>>11881904
This, I can't believe how can anyone defend yagoo after he took the chink money and threw coco to the dogs.

>>11881904
Keep repeating this lie like how cover is a black company and it will be true.

>>11881789
Yes, and since i know you aren't one yourself i'll explain
For a casual player like Uto to be able to be in Diamond and not get knocked down to Platinum or even insta-gibbed in the majority of her games, shows she has game sense and a higher level of strategy than most.
If anyone and everyone could be Diamond, Ame wouldn't be hard stuck Silver and Reine/Moona might actually be Gold+ next time around

>>11881904
From the guy who defends a company that kowtow'd to Chinese Anti's and fired one of their absolute best talents
>Inb4 LOL Fired, He didn't watch!
She could choose between oidashibeya, or leave with some dignity...but knowing this market, her next fuckup would have been her unceremonious termination

>>11881932
Alright master player. That makes those girls shit then.

>>11881929
Cant change what happened

>>11882031
>These casuals aren't the ranks i googled, they must be bad
I'd say "show me your rank then" but i'd probably get the green text >playing Apex

>>11882125
You won't, I never played apex but since the Selen + Uto collab I really want to try.

Off topic question, but which of the Holo or Niji girls do you think did the overnight businessman meeting?

>>11882159
Fubuki, since she's on the board of Cover and has major shares in the company.

>>11881686
they left her, not the other way around. It was the jp faggots that left in droves when the yab happened

>>11882183
>Zhang cope why Cover left China

>>11863152
This is actually true too, Vshojo has been on the incline lately

>>11881734
>>11881844

nigger obviously doesnt watch her streams

>>11882227
And they returned with an apology a few months ago. About the time the apex arc started and she was appearing in jp apex activities a lot.

>>11847615
>why is hololive so isolationist
>ignores the fact that Hololive has collabed with many VTubers outside of their brand like inuyama Tamaki, Shigure Ui, Kagura Mea, Kagura Nana, Ars Almal, Bora Nun, Pikamee, Nyanners, Ironmouse, Virtual Gorilla, Hoshikawa Sara, Inui Toko, Sister Claire, Shiina Yuika, Sasaki Saku, Debi Debi, etc.
Do your fucking reps, anon. They collab with people outside Hololive all the time.

>>11878723
Hololive invented silver fox girls?

>>11880781
They are talking about the EN branch. Who cares about a bunch of Japs that can’t even speak English?

>>11881554
>Tons of people cheered at her when she debuted because they knew her from before.
Her debut had like 200 ccv.

>>11881686
She has always streamed in Japanese and still does. If the JOPs can't handle some duolingo streams that's on them.

>>11882366
>all the time
Lol. You don't even believe that's a lot.

>>11882418
I do, and you have no argument otherwise.

>>11882402
She had videos before her debut, with a jpg avatar or even without that. Those videos had thousands of comments from jps who loved her.

>>11880781
JP girls are friends with like half of Nijisanji and big indies if Yagoo told them to stop talking with them they would Coco out of Cover. It's the EN management that goes full isolationism because EN girls barely care about Hololive they just do this for the $$$ and listen to everything omegafaggot has to say.

Thanks for the thread btw anons, even if most of you were wrong. See you next time.

>>11882436
>Those videos had thousands of comments from jps who loved her.
Lol, certainly not. She was getting 100ish viewers pre debut before he blew up among EOPs.
Not saying she didn't have a preestablished JOP fanbase, but you're overselling it hard.

>>11882887
I was there and scrolled through the comments, don't bring that bullshit to me. I don't give a fuck what you believe, late comer.

>>11881906
Approaching them irl is smarter than what americans do, that way they can't tell mutual internet friends or report it to discord

Japan understands that what you do affects everyone. while Americans will expose their own co-workers and friends and make everything public

>>11882953
There's literally proof against your bs claims (which I posted from one of the vids, I even took one which had a good amount of views comparatively), not sure what you're trying to achieve.

Another successful thread derailed into holo vs niji
Good job bros, dont let them get a foothold against our queen Uto

>>11882999
Then how did I scroll through walls of comments? Are you a schizo? I told you to not pull this wayback machine or whatever, those videos had tons of comments.

>>11883054
>those comments were real in my head

>>11883054
Anon...

>>11883069
Projecting? Also stop trying to change history.

>>11881789
Being in diamond for Apex is the top 4% for players. Compared to other chuubas, she's decent. I feel like most people aren't even watching her for her gameplay skills, it's just a bonus.

>>11883089
https://youtu.be/-3qsv6ki3Gc?t=11709

ITT: Commies, 2views, leeches using my Oshi to shit on successful companies and chuubas

>>11883892
Nice knickers.

>>11880473
It's literally the same artist who did Fubuki. Exactly the topic being discussed, you idiot. An artist who worked for hololive being hired to do another derivative, similar design.
I don't care what you think about this practice, I was correct the moron that though Yagoo was referring to fucking Uto of all things, who is quite distinct from Ame in design.

>>11884027
>an artist who did a character that was a generic age old archetype for a game was hired by cover to create the same character then by another company to create a similar character
Ok.

>>11884027
Man i sure hope you never look up Nacho-mama's recent portfolio...you might call her a leech producing hack

>>11884192
I don't even think I can comprehend what the fuck holobronies believe, that after cover hired an artist and the artstyle was well liked, then the artist can never use that artstyle which is the reason they were hired in the first place?

Do even Holos show up for these sorts of things for indies? I'm guessing they're either a pain in the ass to contact or they have a fee for them to guest.