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>>11809513ccv + sc>http://ikioi-ranking.com/>https://overseas.live-ranking.com/>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/total-ranking/youtube>https://www.dousetu.com/daily_ranking/>http://v-ana.com/>https://playboard.co/en/Hololive>https://holo.poi.cat/>https://twitter.com/holo_data>https://trackholo.live/en/>https://mipacd.github.io/chat-stats/excl-chat.html>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.htmlNijisanji>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>5min poll >12k votes>10k viewersSUSSAAAAAAAANNNN
>>11809575Anon 13.5k actually.
Nijisanji is giving away free concert tickets to highschoolers. Desperation.https://twitter.com/nijisanji_app/status/1451390386962796544
>15k for this scuff streamWill numbers go down once Apex actually starts?
>>11810104Eh, is this supposed to be a marketing strategy.
15k get for Mumei + BaelzIs the EN curse a buff?
>>11810104>highschoolersthe youth doesnt care about vtubers
>>11810501Wasn't there some chart stating that Nijis have more zoomer fans than Holos?
>>11810318They're charging ridiculous prices for the concert tickets (the online stream tickets for the OG Niji concert are 1500 yen more than HoloGen3 concert, physical tickets are 9500 yen vs 6500 yen for Hologen3) so they can probably afford to give away a few for free.https://event.nijisanji.app/initial_step_in/#tickethttps://fanfunisland.hololivepro.com/tickets
>>11810550But why are they focusing on a dying demographic?
>>11810104It's a lottery. They're not giving it a random.
>>11810550it says more young one are interested in holo than niji BUT the first option outlast the holos i belive.
>>11810952> It's a lottery>not randomso they pay for the cance or what am i missing?
>>11810235Seems like they did. Still not bad for Bae's channel though, the only comparable collabs she's had on her channel are Overcooked with Fauna (7k~ in EN primetime) and the room review with Calliope (16k~ during JP primetime).
>>11810235Yes, maybe will incline again when they switch to Minecraft, but with ollie there they will go apex all the way isn't it?
>>11810952>They're not giving it a random.That's literally what a lottery is. The question is if it's a free lottery or paid like how it's already is for phys ticket sales.
>>11810550Yep twitter charts.
>>11810952It's a lottery so it's random.>>11811189>>11811304It's free.
>>11810646They dont care. They just want more bodies for nijisanjification. All japan will be a niji
https://twitter.com/YouTubeJapan/status/1451171943907004419were they paid for this tweet too?
>>11809575Poll didn't matter in the end. Don't put a fucking poll then.>>11810104Just like my wrestling shows.
>>11811636When was the last time they showcased hololive? I saw like 5 nijisanji related tweets in a minute of scrolling
Ame...
>>11811850Why do people post low numbers for the Xth part of debuff content as if it means anything?
>>11811848Why would you showcase something your userbase has no interest in? They have the numbers and it tells them that demographic who use Youtube in Japan have no interest in Hololive.
>>11811636Niji is popular
>>11811848Only once iirc.>>11811850Another Holo should've streamed once A Way Out was cancelled. I don't want to watch APEX, especially with Ollie in, but I'm not jumping into a stream thats been ongoing for hours. Now I'm just playing random videos while playing Nioh like a chump.
>>11811962Niji finally putting more emphasis on their strong males. Just give up on the girls. People who want girls watch Holos.
>>11811850Gotta imagine she's on superchat reading after almost 5 hours?
Mumei visiting HoloJP at 11 PM JST. Number prediction?
Baemei are playing Minecraft now, I wonder how many numbers they can recover.
>>11811962>makes unit with Sasaki and Shiina to give a girl version of Chronoir>flops and is ignored>pumps more energy into the men>trendsKek.
>>11811962Top 11. five of them are nijisanji vids
>>11812348What the fuck, why don't we ever discuss trending in Japanese Youtube until now
>>11811962>>11812348NIJICHADS IN THE HOUSE TONIIIIGHT. HOLOBRONIES ARE GONNA HAVE A BAD TIME.
>>11812348NA in comparison. HoloEN is not at the level of OTV
>>11812448And how many of them are well-known worldwide again?
>>11812448Awfully quiet until today aren't you. Hmm.
>>11812460Has HoloEN had any premieres though, not trying to cope post but pointing out that those Niji videos aside from 1 are all premieres/short videos.
>>11812545NTA, but it's notoriously hard to get on trending for NA as a vtuber.When Reflect and King got a million views in around 10 hours, they weren't on trending, while videos with much lower views got on.
>>11812644That is true I was going to point that out. To trend in JP your audience is majority JP. To trend in NA you can be from almost anywhere, pretty sure some of those in that image are people from europe or canada, simply just making content in English. Which makes it impressive when Holo trends in English on Twitter.
>>11812644That's like comparing a pond to a sea. Niji is only big in JP and nowhere else while HoloEN has to compete with IRL streamers.
>>11812348Doesn't have Suisei's concert vid which has like 250k views, way more than some listed there. So uh, yeah, clearly filtered or whatnot and not actual strictly data-driven.
>>11812348Niji should forget individual chubba content and focus on group stuff on the main channel. It brings the most views that does not translate to each individual chubba anyway.
>>11811962I've always heard that Youtube's trending page isn't really indicative of actual popularity. Like, there's a bunch corporate stuff with low views like late night talk shows that seem to end up on there a lot.
>>11812348The interesting thing is the VOD views on most of those videos aren't even that insane.A good day for Kuzuha/Marine/Pekora gets more views than that.And that's before getting into actual JP VOD monsters like Hikakin, Jun, etc...
>>11812773It's data-driven. Nijisanji is extremely popular in Japan while Hololive's views rely on a non-Japanese audience and it would make sense to only count Japanese views for something titled Trending in Japan.
>>11812542Because they're fake Nijifags. Nijisanji has the same issue as Holostars. Annoying as fuck pretenders who spread shit that they dont know anything about.
>>11812908That does make sense, if Hologra gets 1 mil views in a day, but 500k of those views are from outside of Japan, whereas a Niji stream gets 600k but its all from JP, then youtube japan would probably prioritize the latter for trending.>English Apex trailer is #2 on trending kekMakes a lot of sense too considering what we know about Japan's obsession with Apex.
>>11812773Can confirm it's not filtered
>>11811850ITS OVER
>>11812545HoloEN has Japan as its locale. They are not going to trend in US despite having NA as the majority of their audience demographic.
>>11812773It's definitely filtered. Nobody uses that page for a reason.
>>11812773Her shitty concert got mogged by the Nijichads.
>/#/ finally discovering youtube trendingaw fuck, it was a nice run
>>11812894Trending is not purely view countIt's how fast the video blows up as well as whatever Susan's council deems important.
>Nijisanji beat Suisei's concert with a collab on the game Holo's have been playing nonstop for weeksThat's some devilish shit.
jesas christ you retards, youtube even lays out Youtube Trends.https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/7239739?hl=enAnyone using it as data is the highest moron ever born.
>>11813740Too late, its going to be used as bait for the next three months
>>11810602Yeah, I don't get this part. For example, raindrops concert. Not only the place is packed full without any social distancing, they also charge expensive price for tickets. Their competitor, the most popular vtuber generation sells their tickets cheaper and apply social distancing spaces for their already small (3000pax) venue. From a marketing standpoint, shouldn't they give a fair price point based on their competitor? They'd still sold out the tickets, but there's no reason to go full greedy on this.
>Niji beating Suisei's concert>the free part>in YT trending>in Japan>when Suisei's concert was trending worldwide on TwitterImpressive amount of ignorance and desperation just to shit on one humble singer. Bask in your artificial glory as much as you can as long as you can.
>>11813674Gotta clarify that I'm a Nijifag but it will get more annoying in here as trend will be used as a cope when it's known that Niji main channels perform better on trending than someone streaming a random stream unless it's something important. That Niji stream on the trending image was sandwiched between a premiere and a unit debut so many people were watching, very fast. This contributes to getting on trend.Like stated here >>11813740 videos trend if the demographic watching it is suddenly pulling from other places, since a bunch of onlookers were going to check out those videos because they were doing some IRL island survival which is weird for vtubers.The article also states that Youtube doesn't accept payment for trending but I don't fully believe it due to the slow view count things that get pushed like those comedy shows>>11813829>there's no reasonMoney.>>11813730Tons of free portions of Niji concerts have been mogged yet you don't talk about it, also, it's the fucking free portion for poorfags.
>>11810602Its how wrestling shows are. The marks/"fans" WILL pay to watch. So milk them. Those come in for free might turn into fans.
Someone in Mumei+Baelz's chat said that Mumei is trending. Can anyone in burgerland confirm that?
>>11812874I mean, who actually explores the trending page? You already get what you need from recommended.
>>11814012How's za APEX
>>11814012Mumei is not streaming so she would not be trending.
>>11813829>They'd still sold out the tickets, but there's no reason to go full greedy on this.Honestly, it's Cover's fault for being too conservative. They're still relatively new to irl concerts compared to Anycolor so they're playing it too safe in case no one shows up.Anycolor knows that even their OG lineup of Nijis that doesn't have anyone popular except for Mito will still sell out despite charging that price so they go for it.
>>11814012Trending on twitter and probably not even actually trending since the trending tab on your front page shows topics related to what you usually like/engage with.There's 10k tweets about Mumei in the past few hours.
>>11814136Actually she is, in my trending of course.
>>11813702Aka, YT has its fingers on the scale for trending. I thought this was widely known? Or am I crazy.
There's no mistake here. Fuwa mogged her with some random video. Same amount of views but EOP/SEAnigger watched her video, so he trended in Japan over her.Cope holobronies.
>>11814207>so they're playing it too safe in case no one shows upPekora alone could bring 20k Japanese viewers to the concert (Judge eyes filters EOPs, still gets 20k+) let alone the other 4. They're playing it safe, yeah because of the coof, but why doesn't Anykara follow it too?
>>11814389>>11813254Probably the same retard who thought Kaida Haru was a jobber.
NIJICOPE LIST>building a sub-culture>slow and steady growth>merch sales>no longer showing off their achievements on their page because they have shown more humility>percentages>honorary *insert name here*>tournaments don't count>fortune telling>volume>averages>total CCV during primetime>trailers are ads>Google trends>Holo EN was a desperate gambit>Holo's forcibly acquired audience vs Niji's natural growth>stop picking on midgets! fight someone your own size!>LARPing as Vshojofags>Holobubble is bursting >foreign buff/global audience bad, muh local Nips good>YouTube Japan trends
>>11814389Glad to see you here again. How many times did you show up this month? 4 or 5?
>>11814419No Nijis have gotten COVID right? For Holos it was just Iofi?
>>11813894Sounds like Holocope
>>11813829>most popular vtuber generationNot in Japan, and the tickets are being sold in Japan.
>>11814419>Judge eyes filters EOPs>t. source = my assPekora has 60% foreign viewership according to her own polls
>>11814508Honhima
>>11814508One of the NijiID got the coof. Maybe more, but you can check the archive yourself.
>>11814515Sounds like you're incapable of reading.>>11814579Went through this before, kys newfag
>>11814508Honma>>11814528Gen 3's fans are mostly Japanese. Even before the boom, they got quite a sizeable fanbase going on. >>11814579You mean, the poll she did on twitter and only got around ~16k? That's not enough, dipshit.
>>11814743He means the crap poll she did on YouTube's community tab, the one that got clipped a lotEven worse.
>>11814419>They're playing it safe, yeah because of the coof, but why doesn't Anykara follow it too?That's not what I meant.They're playing it safe by thinking they aren't as popular as they actually are, booking smaller venues and then halving the capacity while also pricing less than their closest competition.Anycolor is confident that their lineup of OGs that average ~1000 CCV + Mito can fill out an arena with 9500 yen physical tickets. They're also charging 9500 yen for the Nijirock concert featuring Kagami, Joe, Akina, Ryushen and 3 literalwhos.There's no reason for Cover to be so conservative with their Hologen3 concert pricings.>>11814579Fuck this retarded timeloop.
>>11814356It is, but do you think this thread ISN'T inhabited by tourist ESLs who can't even spell analytics. I doubt >>11814389 even knows what that video is, calling it a random video
>>11814826enjoy them being conservative about it while it lasts
>>11814826Or maybe they're not being conservative, they have the actual numbers and know that they're being propped up by EN viewers while their actual Japanese viewerbase is much smaller.
>>11814957We're all overseas fags so we'll never get a physical ticket anyways.If they decided to not do a lottery system and sell tickets straight up, they'll be sold out within minutes.
Since the Nijiseeth can never contend with Hololive on a global scale, they now resort back to JP huh?You guys do know that it is okay for an era to end right? Just like how Kizuna Ai and 4 kings dominated 2017 and first half of 2018, Nijisanji dominated 2018, 2019 and first half of 2020. Now it is Hololive's domination. Eras have their rise and fall.
I think WE should stop numberfagging about a concert that where both holo and niji talents where present.
Damn even fuwafags showed up, holo got bad number or something?
>>11815080You guys do know that vtubing is just a fad in the west and when it ends holos will be back where they were 2 years ago, right? Meanwhile Nijisanji solidified their domination in Japan by spreading into the mainstream and bringing vtubing culture to the masses.
>>11815032You'll never get a digital ticket either since you have multiple free restreams to choose from
>>11815082Nah, it should be gatekept or this happens. That whore.
>>11815156Just because your expansion to the west was a failure doesn't mean everyone else's was.>cultureThere you are, culture anon
>>11815102They're the same people as the Kuzuhafag larpers.
>>11815082>supporting leechngmi
>>11815019Considering Suisei just had the best selling solo vtuber album of all time (with numbers tracked only in Japan) and her physical albums were sold out to the point of there being an availability shortage, their local popularity is huge even if their overall numbers are boosted by overseas fans.If Anycolor has the balls to give Rin(~1000 CCV) a sololive and charge these prices, there's no reason why any mid to top-tier Holo should settle for less.
>>11815179HE CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH ITSUISEI JOINING FUWA'S HAREM WHEN?
>>11815195I actually don't think this is culture anon.He didn't mention "forcibly acquiring" fans and building a company culture so he's another idiot who thinks vtubing is going to die out in the west in a few months.
Suisei kneels to Fuwa's big dick power.
>11815613At least change your IP, lazy fuck.
>>11815613I see, Fuwaposters are literal fucking children.
Ame is done for.
>>11813829do the niji concerts have streaming tickets?
>>11815911Yes, NND and sometimes Abema apparently, but mostly NND
>>11815613>Asian>big dickkek delusional seaing
>>11815999nta but Suisei is a shotaconstill being compared to a little boy is pretty embarrassing desu
>>11815704>Kuzuha>Ibrahim>Fuwa>Even AstelI feel male vtuber fans actually more annoying than female vtuber fans one
>>11813979First anon you're replying to here, yeah it'll probably be falseflagged to death. I know niji has a good understanding of how the Trending page works and I personally think it's a function of relative views/period of a channel against similar videos baseline and regional interest, but the intricacies of the algo can still bite them in the ass unexpectedly (I remember koushien 2021 not getting into YT trending despite the 200k ccv thing).>>11815911Yes but unfortunately they stuck to NND becuase of an old favor back in 2018.
>>11815735Even though i know that pic is bait>Tells Gura to fuck off>Does everything she can to opt out of collabs >Won't let Gura be in charge of their 2 or 3 girl collabs>Bails on every project she has (sky temple the latest)>Doesn't play along with anyones tropes or gags, plays the straightman despite it ruining the RP Council/Myth haveIt's a sad day when even Kiara is getting along better than Ame
>>11815943>>11816082>nico nico dogshitYeah that's why they'll never take off in the west
>>11816079>open Nijimale thread>normal>open numberfag thread>cancer>open Holo girl general>normal>open bait thread>cancerDo you get it now?
>>11815943>>11816082do their concerts go trending like the holos'? i have no idea since i dont watch nijis but it might be possible that they rely more on their physical ticket sales compared to holos.the holo concerts seem to not give much shit about their physical ticketsiirc the irl ads for holos were for people to go watch on spwn
>>11816190Well considering they run a lottery for in person tickets, they probably know that the physical locations will already be sold out. Anyone who needs a location based ad to get the heads up has probably already missed out on the physical tickets.
>>11816143Well that depends on which hologirl general you're talking about, but the nijimale thread here is so slow that no self-respecting shitposter is even going to bother. Whereas bait and #(which IS a containment thread so numberfagging doesn't splash into all the threads, even if it sometimes fails at that) are perfect for shitposters because apparently people still haven't learned to stop replying to bait here.
>>11816190niji does put up ads and recently they highlighted the ads for kuzuhas event. What left an impression on me was the full AR concert which has live viewing tickets in 30 cinemas across japan plus NND livestream (fun fact: that concert nearly got cancelled two days before the d-day and would've put anycolor in red, it's honestly a miracle that they pulled it off) Personally I think there's not that much difference in concert economics across the two companies (they both print money), but if I have to say hololive has the advantage in digital tickets simply due to more foreign fans.
>>11816190They trend on the day and they also get irl advertisements
>>11816190>do their concerts go trending like the holos'?Their AR live did, but not sure about the sololives for the smaller Nijis.You wouldn't expect a Sora or AZKI sololive to go nuts on trending either so most Niji concerts that do trend are the ensemble ones or Kuzuha's upcoming one. (Yes, I have clairvoyance, and Hologen 3's concert will also go on trending).>the holo concerts seem to not give much shit about their physical ticketsNot much to give a shit about since you know they'll sell out for sure, lottery system already in-place and all.It's probably harder for Watame and Suisei to get only 1500 viewers on a stream than it is for them to sell out 1500 tickets (half capacity).Physical tickets are also only 1500 yen more expensive than SPWN tickets and it costs them close to nothing to stream it so every SPWN ticket is free money. Cover doesn't charge 4500 yen more for physical tickets like Anycolor does.
>>11816190Yeah they are trending too just like Holo, but lower number of tweets.>the holo concerts seem to not give much shit about their physical ticketsHolo sold their concert tickets in three different batch. The first and second batch is lottery while the third is general sale and it sold out in under 5 minutes (for Suisei). It's not that they didn't give a shit, it's just a guaranteed sold out that they didn't put that much marketing to it and rather promote the unlimited streaming tickets.
Ollie's gonna overlap her senpai again...
i think i worded that wrongly, i meant that holos dont seem to care as much about the capacity/number of physical tickets of their events.
kek still in the top 100. the highest vtuber tweet in 2020>79th #こえていくホロライブSTAGE2 722.7K tweets>99th #こえていくホロライブSTAGE1 566.2K tweetshttps://getdaytrends.com/japan/top/tweeted/year/the highest in 2021#桐生ココ卒業LIVE 432.5K tweets491k ccv, ¥34,303,067 ($300k), 5m views, fastest no.1 trending. Sasuga
>>11816983thank chinks for the spam on tags
>>11816885They certainly care they just have less seats to fill due to overdoing covid practices.
>>11816827is mel graduating?
>>11816983Went straight to no.1 after the stream ended and stayed there for 2 - 3 days lol
Did Hololive ever do a concert that has a maximum capacity of more than 5000 before?
>>11817104Her birthday is near anon. So its either pre recorded 3d stream or new outfit
>>11815735>25 watching rnAme stream actually below Gwelu line lol
>>11817104Dear EOPchama, if one was announcing their graduation they wouldn't put a fucking heart on the title.
>>11817123You can count the number of Hololive irl concerts on ,,, well two hands and Bloom and Holofes 2 didn't have an live audience due to covid.They're still new to irl lives so I doubt it.
>>11817123Yeah, it's called "Bloom"
>>118169833rd fes could cross 1m if it includes ENs fuck
>>11817123not live physical numbers but bloom had 50k people
>>11817229It won't include coco so nope
>>11817190But you don't need to know Japanese to understand that...
>>11817179If she actually goes to sleep and doesn't close the stream in 5 hours, she'll lose a VOD consisting of 4 hours of gameplay, but doing this in the first place is peak impulsive Ame so I'm sure she'll do it and regret afterwards.
>>11817204Was there another bloom fest? >Bloom hololiveBloom, was a live concert held by Hololive on February 17th, 2021 online featuring select members from Hololive Japan. It was held at Tokyo Garden Theater with no live audience.>>11817246I meant physical ones. Because it seems to me they're starting low first for physical concerts. Maybe they don't have the experience to manage large ones yet.
>>11817190It also wouldn't be at night
>>11817204Bloom had no live audience>>11817246> bloom had 50k peopleLiterally one anon said he found a glitch to see how many people were watching on SPWN and when asked for proof, he ghosted so idk why we keep parroting this number as if it's any more true than a shitpost.
>>11817252EOP was just an addition when the title literally says that she has an important announcement + she will return streaming normally
>>11817275Yeah that Tokyo Garden Theater has max capacity of 8,000 people. It wasn't filled with anyone though.
>>11816827whos Ollie collab partner?
>>11817390Miyabi
>>11817390Stars, Miyabi.Interesting.
>>11814207True. Cover lacks that aggresiveness anykara had. But welp, im glad they do it at their own pace
>>11817320because its true. Cover numberfag it.https://style.nikkei.com/article/DGXMZO70233130T20C21A3000000/>配信でオリジナル楽曲を歌う有料オンラインライブでは約5万枚のチケットが販売され、海外からの注目度も高い。
>>11816983Weird, this pic >>11811336 has completely different numbers. Or those are just from Japan?
>>11817432He's her Stars oshi and he said they'd collab in her bday totsu
This is probably the best proof we have that youtube's CCV is broken.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4auNHelA-k>15 people watching nowChat is still flying and obviously not only 15 people. There's at least 100 people in here.
>THE KING ENTERS THE ARENAWith some surprise morning APEX. Will it beat 20k? It may end up leaving the day open. Very kind of him for avoid an overlap with Moona, he’ll 100% be watching
>>11817443i imagine once the pandemic measures die down they'll try having bigger venues
>>11817565This stream is broken in itself, here is what I see in a private window with an unlogged account
>>11814508honhima nearly fucking died from it because she was a retard, hid it from her mother, lost a lot of weight and had to be hospitalized.
In other shill news, here's Square-Enix x Hololive for Guardians of the Galaxyhttps://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1451443951483772930It'll involve Fubuki, Subaru and Korone streaming the game.
>>11817604I just hope by now they has resolve their inner management issue, especially the lack of staff.
>>11817443It's not that they're lack being aggressive. The right answer would honestly be the don't have the experience yet to manage large venues yet. It's easy to fuck that up. Safer option would always be small venues but relatively large online audience. I'm just hoping they could perform on tokyo dome one day.
>>11817659I wonder who makes these thumbnails and if they have to get approval from the sponsor. Because it looks pretty neat
>>118175814pm JST = morning apex?>>11817659holy fuck that picture rumao
>>11817581>he’ll 100% be watchingdoes he even know who Moona is?
>>11812773because her concert got copyright claimed retard, copyrighted vid got less favor from the algo
>>11817565>>11817623From 20 viewers to 1000 in less than 10s once sound came on...
>>11817703Well, Kuzuha wakes up by this time so yeah, “morning”
>>11817659>https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1451443951483772930If only we could numberfag previous Square Enix sponsorships like TowaKanata or PekoraNoel FF shill. They've been collabing with Hololive a lot lately but we don't know how high of a success for them to keep collabing like this. The same goes for Bandai.
>>11814471I remember nijigger saying suisei's album won't be able to hold its own against niji's album because her audience is mostly overseas. felt pretty good to see they got assblasted
>>11817709I doubt he knows who 3/4ths of the people in Nijisanji are much less Moona.
>>11817623From 20 viewers to 1000 in less than 10s the moment sound came on her stream...Youtube CCV is like mysterious sauce at this point.
>>11817871It's probably too soon to tell whether the sponsorships are a success from Squeenix's perspective since all these deals would've been made at around the same time. If they continue to get a partnership for Square-Enix games next year we'll know that they thought it worthwhile.
>>11817971>I doubt he knows who 3/4thsA very generous estimate. I think he only knows hololivers from shit like alt and Coco trending like mad at some point. I don't know of any other time he's ever acknowledged hololive. Pekora tried for Nijisanji and got rejected. Hololive may have the numbers but Nijisanji lives in hololive's head more than vice versa.
>>11817659Huh Hololive is capeshit now
>>11818023Hmm that's reasonable. Wished I kept track of all the sponsorships from both Holos and Nijis to see if they did a rerun of it months or a year later from the same company.
>>11818068nice attempt to say that >Nijisanji lives rent free in Hololive's headwhen it's probably not after so long>>11818130sponsors are sponsors and money is money. who cares.
>>11818184Yep it only matters whether they're chinks or not
>>11818068>Pekora tried for Nijisanji and got rejectedDamn, they must be regretting this immensely
>>11818068Anon we're talking about Kuzuha who can't even read kanji, of fucking course he doesn't know someone from the smallest branch of Hololive, he can barely name people outside his own wave
>>11818068>Pekora tried for Nijisanji and got rejected.Probably the biggest scouting mistake they'll ever make.
>>11818240I know, I just don't think Kuzuha knows 25 people in his own company so 3/4th is generous.
>>11818068He knows the big number holos.
>>11818068>Pekora tried for Nijisanji and got rejectedand nijis forever seething
>>11818240>>11818276https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8cnRX2kDoYThis was fresh when they first debuted too. Do you think he remembers their names still?
>>11818130Fubuki has been mad for capeshit forever.
>>11818068>tried for Nijisanji and got rejectedDon't believe everything you read. It's pretty much a template, I've seen this said for SO many Holos.
>>11818130Fubuki and Subaru are known to love the MCU, dunno if Korone is also the same but probably.
>>11818276You're stating Kuzuha being brain damaged is the same as Hololive somehow having Nijisanji rent free in their minds.
>>11818377Sorry.I feel like hololive is so beneath him it doesn't enter his thoughts. I'm not sure why hololive pops into my head all the time though, it is a silly point to make.
>>11818411He only has male in his mind ? Manjisanji
>>11817581>4PM in Japan>Morning
Nijiblokes surely are sensitive about their company lately ACTION>lighthearted joke (and absurd) joke about Kuzuha streaming early to avoid an overlap with MoonaREACTION>NOOOO! HE DOESN’T EVEN KNOW HER! IT’S NIJISANJI THAT LIVES ON HOLOLIVE’S HEAD!You guys need to curb your enthusiasm
>>11818411>beneathWay to out yourself, tribalfag. Kuzuha doesn't even care about numbers, what makes you think that he'll give a shit who's beneath or who's above him
>>11818455Apex. Apex likely lives rent free in his soul, even if he is somewhat burnt out on it.
>>11818411You keep going, he literally praised HoloAlt on his stream and said he wished Nijisanji would get something like ithttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5x4BebIeeXEAny more smart observations about him you wanna make?
>>11817687iirc the gen 3 1st live will be held at the tokyo dome unless there's another venue called that.https://twitter.com/hololive_en/status/1439922295447834627?lang=en
>>11818666>tokyo dome unless there's another venue called that.There is. Tokyo Dome City Hall is a 3100 seater arena. Why don't Nijjis and holoqueers rent out something bigger? They're gonna sell like hot cakes.
>>11818666https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tokyo_Dome_City_HallIt's a venue across the street from Tokyo Dome
Can someone post the viewer graph of Ame's OW stream? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4auNHelA-k
>>11818068>Pekora tried for Nijisanji and got rejectedI thought it was Marine?
>>11818723A thing of beauty
>>11818765Looks like a swimming elephant
>>11818713Niji had their big event at the Kokugikan (main sumo venue in Tokyo, capacity 11k) back in 2019 but I guess the wu flu set live events so far back they don't want to risk going that big again yet
>>11818765It's a face
>>11818713>NijiThey are actually. Rain Drops concert was at Tokyo Garden Theatre (8000) and Nijirock will be held at Pia Arena MM (10000). Now I wonder if Holo will use bigger venue for Fes 3.
Yesterday's superchats (sorry these are getting later and later, should be able to go back to a better schedule soon)
>>11818765What the hell even happened here?
>>11818827They should but I doubt it.Once you have ticket lotteries you should really think about going bigger. Although this thread will laugh is it really so bad to have some unsold tickets?>>11818810The chinky coof really did change too much, it's hard to know the real potential of the companies at hand. Although without it Hololive would probably be still a midget.
>>11818753I remember reading it before that her audition was leaked but they were all rrats anyway since nips asked for proof but got ghosted and no proof. the source are from 5ch so unless you like believing the anons here
>>11818925>the source are from 5chSo that means it's a lie?
Sorry to bring up something from the previous thread, but people were shitposting about Fauna's SCs and comparing her to Pomu and Selen.Well playboard finished tallying her SCs today and she got $3.6k for beating MC.Not too shabby.SC in the past 7 days(number of streams):Fauna: $7778 (6)Pomu: $4657 (8)Selen: $5242 (6)
Today is the anniversary of Gura's 1M milestone.Starting from 10/21(22) /2020, she gains 2.5M in 365 days, avg. 48k/week or 208k/month.
>>11818977>Fauna: $7778 (6)Considering Fauna gets more than 5 times the viewership this really isn't impressive.
>>11818974Yeah anons here like to ctrl c + v post from 5ch back in /jp/ and now /vt/
>>11819011Sounds like cope to me.Here's my counter cope. Fauna turns off SC's for half her streams. Because she's not a desperate beggar.
>>11818765>>11818815
>>11819011Since when has viewership ever correlated with SC earnings?Kiara is 2nd in HoloEN and she's a very distant 5th in viewership.Coco was mid-tier in viewership for HoloJP.
>>11819044Cover pays Council under the table. every single one of them seems allergic to free money.
>>11818884Ame was teasing teamates' loyalty
>>11818765>>11818815>>11819057Shitpost responsibly
>>11818886Bloom was supposed to be held at Tokyo Garden Theatre (8000). They can afford way bigger venue for Fes3 especially with Tokyo already loosened up some restrictions for concert.
>>11819146I'm going to be a full blown Qanon conspiracy nut at this rate.That can't be a coincidence. It's a sign from God.
>>11819146The average gosling poster probably doesn't have chins so this is true
>>11819074To be fair at the time Coco became the top in SC she was still also top tier in viewership. She just kept very steady on one end.
>>11819044>>11819074>Since when has viewership ever correlated with SC earningsIt never has. It some sort of weird cope>she gets a lower viewership and she also gets a lower SC amount but the ratio between the two is higher so she wins!
>>11819106Is it really under the table when we know Cover actually pays them a small salary unlike other companies?
>>11819106They're just not desperate beggars anon. They always refuse free money because they're humble idols. They don't want their fans to go broke because they love them.
>>11819276Sugar Ray Leonard is the best pound for pound fighter of all time. Is he the biggest? No. Pomu is a better pound for pound vtuber than Fauna.
>>11819368Ayamy is one of the GOATs then>$2.2k last 7 days>$117k all time>Average viewers: 163>Highest viewed stream in last 30: 688https://playboard.co/en/channel/UCr9p1ZjLKgfaoqNorY7PiWQ
>>11818868hah, Towa ends up on the chart for a solo walk around the en server in the morning just because she spoke in her natural tone.
>>11819074since niji lost at every metric anon kun, they made a new metric
>>11818977>Pomu: $4657 (8)Your numbers are completely wrong. She has 7 streams and made $6602 in the past 7 days. The only ENs with more weekly SC than her right now are Gura, Fauna and Irys (Irys would have way less if not for the three month celebration). Fauna is just $1k higher despite the huge boost she got from that stream.
>>11819575Nah, NijiJP fans are still respectable since NijiJP can actually put out good numbers.It's NijiEN fans who shame us all NijiJP fans by being schizo.on the number thread.
>>11819607>The only ENs with more weekly SC than her right now are Gura, Fauna and IrysAnd Mori. And Kiara.
>>11819607And also Kiara and Mori. Forgot about those.
>>11819607https://playboard.co/en/channel/UCP4nMSTdwU1KqYWu3UH5DHQ/superchatYour number counts the stream on Oct 14th, mine does not.The truth is in the middle.She made $6602 from 8 streams.>(Irys would have way less if not for the three month celebration)Please. Pomu did a 170k celebration/endurance stream for $1.7k.
>>11819610Makes sense, NijiEN shitposters and actual diehard NijiEN fans that don't stick to the generals are exholofaggots, and you know what they say about converts....
>>11819368You are fucking stupid to compare wrestling to vtubing
>>11819796But Gigguk did it first!
>>11819697She does not have 8 streams. Playboard counts the number as soon as the day ends. One of her stream went past midnight, so it got counted as two.
>>11819796>wrestling
>>11819687>>11819694So the only ENs with more weekly SC than her right now are Gura, Fauna, Irys, Mori and KiaraSana did not stream the whole week.Amelia returned yesterday and streamed twice.Mumei streamed twice, one of these an unarchived karaoke with SC turned offKronii streamed twiceIna streamed 3 timesI don't think there is a comparison possible between Pomu and the rest of the EN girls except>she streams more often
>>11819847You're right, Playboard's numbers are changing for me when I refresh the page so idk what's going on with it.
>>11819900im sure if any of coucyl did a celbration stream they would be also outperfroming x3 pomu.However i think EN set a precedent to not celbrate tose anymore.
>>11820107Maybe, but the main reason is because they don't stream nearly as much as Pomu and many HoloENs turn off SC when they do SC readings, which is asinine.NijiEN, Kiara, and HoloJPs like Nene make a killing from leaving SCs on when doing SC readings. They're far more lucrative than regular gaming streams.
>>11812348>believes "trending" YT tab isn't rigged
>>11820159Holos aren't beggars. They don't even make voicepacks no more cause that's humiliating for them.
>>11820191Leaving SC on while SC reading is begging because it's telling chat they have a chance to get attention. Laziest form of begging aside from outright saying Give me money
>>11818868some mogging from Kuson
>>11820159Asinine for you but I'm sure for them they'd rather spend that time doing something else far more productive. Mori and Gura could rival top JP superchat earners if they do lengthy SC reading with SC still enabled but there would be no point for them.
>>11820191>Holos aren't beggars. They don't even make voicepacks no more cause that's humiliating for them.kek, they are and they do but that's beyond the point.It is true that they are leaving money at the table and nobody knows the reason for that. Maybe they're shy, maybe they're dumb, maybe they make more than enough from other sources but the reality is:>they are not maxing the amount of SC they could earn
>King on a good pace to take the day right from the startUnless Moona pulls a surprisingly strong number there are only three contenders to beat this number today>Pekora>Miko>Subaru on a REALLY good dayAnd of course, Ayame but haha, yeah, might as well expect Marine to make a surprise appearance
>>11820191anon, they put out Halloween voicepacks not that long ago.
>>11818868Random flip sneaks in at #12? How the hell did that happen?
>>11820279>no pointEnjoy your shitty merch then because your oshi does not have enough capital. Coco went from badges to full-on jackets due to profit from SC readings.
>>11820476Those two are in a particularly good position in which, at least for Gura, companies are falling over themselves to produce anything with her character in and Calli, because her "merch" is also her main product>music
>>11820279just admit your oshi is shit in zatsu and SC readingBTW>Gura>they'd rather spend that time doing something else far more productive.haha
Where the hell is Pekora? She hasn't streamed in two days.
>>11820604Idol reps
>>11820042
It will NEVER fail to be funny to think Subaru was supposed to be some sort of tomboy MMA coach or something and ended up becoming>a talking duckwhose duck mascot ended up getting a much wider recognition in the meme world than the vtuber herself.She capitalized on it and inclined but it is funny as fuck.Also: this partnership is somehow remarkable for Hololive, isn't it? Shilling a Marvel product is a first for them, I believe.
>>11820706It's technically collab with Squenix
>>11820706>duck>dog>fox
>>11820476>14444 yen special merch package for her first birthdayYeah she'll be fine.>>11820538Right and how is Kiara still below Mori in SC when she's doing all these lengthy SC readings with SC enabled? It's the numbers thread so your "shit in zatsu and SC reading" opinion is irrelevant
>>11820706>>11820772BTW this was their main game this year on E3
>>11820808Kiara>~2-3k ccv>top 8 holomember in term of SCs in 2021you were saying?
>>11820808It's not because of lengthy SC readings but Mori .SC : Mori > Kiara with lengthy SC readings Mori with lengthy SC readings >> Kiara with lengthy SC readings
>>11820706bugs seething at fubuki being right up front.
4 streams overlapping Moona, none are really hard hitters so I say 20-25K is still possible, but there are 3 hours left, schedules can still change so it's still entirely up in the air
>>11820953Almost every bug was only in it for cancelling Coco. Most of them moved on and only a handful still care about FBK.
>>11820808>didn't address my points>threw "orange towel" to deflect the topic
>>11820980>4 streams overlapping Moona3, Botan at 21:00 jst
>>11821051>Mel>Ollie (I'm kinda doubtful)>Kanata >Sora
>Mel has a big announcementLooks like she is finally graduating. I wonder how the numbers will be.
>>11821094this is sad, but she is one of the oldest (gen1) holomember.i would not be surprised
>>11821094>>11821126>Literally uses the "good news" big announcement> <3>anons think its graduation
>>11821094>heartsIt's fucking nothing. My guess is a 3D live or a new costume.
>>11821002If you really want to make your point of Mori and Gura are not maximizing their SC earnings with lengthy SC enabled readings because they are " shit in zatsu and SC reading" then you sure got me in a numbers thread.
>>11820998yes, and those bugs are seething.
>>11821149im EOP, ok?if i personally checking such stream i always use deepl
>>11821126>>11821149>>11821153For her birthday probably
>>11821094It's obviously just a announcement for a birthday live, it's just she's either retarded or a genius for using the plain white text on black background thumbnail
>>11820706Hololive shilling and it still has SOUL, how the fuck do they do it lol
>>11821149>>11821153I'm joking mate. Although I do have fantasies about a holomem having a big announcement and hinting that it was good and we'll love it but then drop the graduation bomb. I recall when Coco first announced her graduation holomems couldn't make surprise announcements for months without a preface because the fanbase would go on defcon 2.
>>11821188anon, even holodex that you took that image from says its a singing stream. I'll quit vtubers the day a holo announces graduation on a singing stream.
>>11820980Man, I know the meme is all about how holo management is restrictive so they all play the same things but fucking Botan is playing fucking Inscryption.
>>11821235I could have sworn there was a vtuber who was just doing a singing stream then suddenly dropped the announcement that she was graduating.
>>11821232Cause they didn't sell their soul to chinks.Nijisanji on the other hand has been shilling chink gacha games left and right cause they're that desperate to incline.
>>11821300Lulu...
>>11821309>>11821300WTF??? Is that what happened?? Ohhh dear i think i can't take it if my oshi were to do that
>>11821304>they didn't sell their soul to chinkshahaha the Azur Lane collab didn't exist right?Lmao Yagoo would be sucking Xi's dick now if the Taiwan incident didn't happen
>>11821232How is it soul, the fucking thumbnail??
>>11821300>>11821309Lulu graduated cause of management restrictions.That's the exact opposite of what Holo management do with their talents.
>>11821300Lulu.
>>11821297It's more about most of the girls that don't like playing new games unlike Botan
>>11821367I mean there were hints dropped all over the month but yeah, she officially announced her graduation during a singing stream which if I'm not mistaken was also her birthday stream
>>11821370I'm a big holofan but I side with Nijisanji management on that one. I don't think Lulu being retarded should be used against Nijisanji.
>>11821170your point>they'd rather spend that time doing something else far more Productive.my point>just admit your oshi is shit in zatsu and SC readingif you think SC reading cant be intresting(entretaiment=productivity (for viewer)).this is my point for vtubers in general.if you talking about Gura and Mori in specific:you can make case for Mori, but we still didnt get new album/songs (only1).Gura..
>>11821297>>11821373She still hasn't played STALKER even though no one actually owns STALKER right now.
>>11821389>Lulu being retardedI'm no corpo bootlicker so I ain't buying your rrat but I truly believe Lulu just wants out cause Nijisanji haven't been supportive of their female talents as of late.
>>11821170I honestly believe Gura and Mori would rather do shill streams than be forced to do long SC readings after every stream, they value their time more (which is pretty based).
Why are clips from Pekora's nousagi crafts stream so popular? Half a million in 3 days?
>>11821389I don't know man, I don't think it's unreasonable to ask that your talent stop streaming for awhile while they sort out the legal stuff, especially when it comes to stalkers. If Nijisanji did nothing and lulu ended up getting raped live on stream people'd be hounding for their blood, it's literally damned if you do damned if you don't.>>11821419Which means she can't get permissions and cover is too cautious to do the "beg for forgiveness later" act when it comes to game perms
>>11821487Viewer participation streams are always popular, espectially when it comes to Nousagis and their whacky inventions
>>11821487Because translated Pekora is pretty good for gaining views, especially when it's funny viewer participation stuff. Translated Gura clips also do very well, so you know who he clipfags really like.
>>11821304what was it again? azur lane but worse?
>>11821491Yeah, that is exactly why I am on Nijisanji's side. They needed to deal with the situation but Lulu was retarded for being resentful of them.
Since some people are talking about superchat reading I have a stupid question. Do you guys think the superchat reading speed of the vtuber affects their superchat gain?
>>11821491Ofc they are, they learnt their lesson when the VOD apocalypse happened.
Hololive idol reps paying outhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0p7P9XRoeEoSinging Don Quijote theme song in partnership with them.I find it funny that the negotiations must go like this>so, you want Marine and Noel? >TRADE ALERT!>You're taking Shion and Mel as well
>>11820980https://twitter.com/akaihaato/status/1451480298135298062?s=20and just like that, the chance lowers
>>11821535CCP approved Azur lane, basically.
>>11821452Getting BTFO by Holo females several times over doesn't mean they don't provide tons of support for their females.
>>11821487there is no regular translator in Pegora's chat.this stream was kinda uniq reminded me about Coco's Meme review, mb this is the case
>>11821491I have only my condolences in Lulu's case. Managment was in a "dned if you do, damned if you don't" situation with her. If they just let her keep streaming, courts and police would just take it as a sign that the situation wasn't serious, and if something DID happen, they'd get roasted online into naught but a pile of ashes. By choosing to take the hardone though, they caused Lulu to stop streaming too much and clearly she hated THAT enough to graduate over it.
>>11821529It stands out among even other Pekora clips though. Most of them top out around 100k
>>11818713https://www.fun-japan.jp/en/articles/11785Niji's third anniversary was at held there. Too bad most of the events ended up being cancelled or without audience.
Between Hololive JP, which talent have the most expensive name for promotion?
>>11821487One of the Miko clips there looks huge too you know.
Risu is currently having a whooping 2.2k in Minecraft!! She'll definitely take the day!!!!
>>11821606Obviously Pekora.
>>11821606marine
>>11821562Shion is pretty popular. she is FAR from "mel's tier"
>>11821614That one is simple to explain, it has a pair of naked legs
>>11821605How big was the L they took. That sounds painful.
>>11818068>Pekora tried for Nijisanji and got rejected.Source: my ass
>>11821606Either Aqua or Marine. Pekora may be ccv queen but those 2 are more of the hololive jp face
>>11821626>Obviously Pekora.Pekora can't really sing so I don't think so>>11821629>marineThat would be my guess too
>>11821614>>11821487Acknowledging the fans almost always gets big numbers.See the Gura reacting to Ankha clipit's also how Subaru became beloved by clippers too.
>>11821487People eat up react content, that video of Gura reacting to the Ankha zone animation got millions of views. Twitch streamers use react content to pad their numbers and as easy content because why wouldn’t you.
>>11821640She is popular indeed but often absent (like Mel) so that must certainly impact her "desirability"
>>11821304>Holo didn't sell their soul to chinks>Marvel(Disney) DID sell their soul to chinksdraw?
I thought HoloJP loves Moona? Why are they overlapping with her Outfit Reveal?RIP Numbers
>>11821491>If Nijisanji did nothing and luluNijisanji actually didn't do anything until it was already late. Lulu has been dealing with stalkers since she joined the company but it wasn't until she had enough that the management decided to step in. The management were also late with addressing conflicts amongst their talents that's why they also lost Meiro and Roa due to mismanagement. I think they really have to be proactive when dealing with these kinds of issues to prevent further unnecessary graduations.
>>11821693holoID overlaps JP events all the time fuck off
>>11821366>Azur Laneis Korean game
>>11821366Every day I thank Coco for pulling cover out of that shithole
>>11821661Pekora's shill streams have been extremely successful though. Judgement was sponsored and hit 35k+. Pekora's Makaimura stream got the game to trend on twitter.
>>11821718.....what.Azur lane isn't a fucking Korean game, they're headquartered in Shanghai you numbskull.that being said, they're some of the most based mobile game devs I've seen.
>>11821681she is midget tier, but mostly has JOP viewers
>>11821606Aqua is the designated shill Holo so its probably herShe had that redbull, nissin and other brands so it must be costly to have her promote stuff.
>>11821718do holobronies really?
>>11821605https://www.bigsight.jp/english/organizer/facilities/aomi.htmlOh wait my bad it was here, not the actual TBS
>>11821684You could use that logic to apply to 90% of video games and companies, everyone sucks ccp dick if they want access to the mainland.
>>11821562Why does Cover spread the sponsorships around like that? They'd get more money just giving companies the biggest livers.
>>11821829some do it "deeper" then another>blizzard
>>11821860>what is box pushing
If there'll be no sudden Holo or Niji Event then this bunny will surely take the day.Please don't be another kusoge, i'll even take Minecraft than a kusoge
>>11821860Well for one you don't want a repeat of the Marine situation where she overworks herself into needed a month plus long breakFor another see >>11821901
>>11821860Because they believe in giving even the 'lower tier' Holos a hand up when it comes to group sponsorships. For the ones where sponsors request a specific or pair of Holos, cover has no problems with letting the talents decide if they want to take it or not.
>>11821860Image fatigue is a thing anon. People get tired if its the same thing. Its also a good thing to spread the income on multiple Holos on the off chance that a big star decides to leave. It's the reason Cover is still relatively unharmed when Coco left. Watame and Kanata picked up some of her fans.
>>11821901Only works if you have talents who buy into it and really get gaslighted into believing it. There is a reason it has only worked for one company ie dumb luck and voodoo magic.
>>11821957Niji>pushes companyHolo>box pushingNot hard to understand. Don't blame it on luck and voodoo magic, though I'll have to admit it's a funny argument to throw out.
>>11821860marine literally had to extend her break because even during her break she barely had free time
>yagoo pushing
>>11821904Nevermind, she might be late she saidWhat was Kuzuha's numbers today?
>>11821860It helps their less popular talents. It also send a very clear message: even if you aren’t our top performer, we will support you. Same with Sana committing number suicide and management not caring. Even the top dogs have to worry if they take a break or vacation, or lose popularity, will they fall out of Covers good graces. Stuff like this engenders loyalty which is important since there’s very little barrier to just leaving and taking a good chunk of your fans with you.
>>11821957>dumb luck and voodoo magiclmao, this cope will never stop being funny to me
>>11821976Box pushing doesn't work for vtubers. NijiEN and english start ups prove it. >voodooThere is no way else to explain it. They fell ass backwards into success while having shitty business practices. In every timeline but this one they are lucky to get bronze medals.>>11822020Then why is Marine there?
>>11822069these things are likely decided and done months before, even the "recordings" they keep doing these days likely wont be seen till months later
>>11822069>Box pushing doesn't work for vtubers.Except for when it does, IE hololive
>>11822020Marine, Pekora, Gura, Ina etc basically have infinite opportunities to work on projects if they want to, more then they could ever actually finish. Unless they say no to 99% of them they will burn out in short order.
>>11822069>Box pushing doesn't work for vtubers.Ever heard of Hololive?
>>11821957>dumb luck and voodoo magicAsacoco boom, Holofes 1, ARK boom. When it comes to making box pushing strong it was those three things specifically that happened to fall into the same time frame but none it was magic.
>>11822116>>11822109Exceptions prove the rule.>>11822068Yes. They used dark magics and blessings from old, forgotten gods to manipulate youtube's algorithm.
>>11822109>>11822116Box pushing only works when there's one popular member in your gen. In this case, HololiveEN has Gura and Kronii. One of them could incline other members just by having collabs. Not to mention, JP-EN collabs tends to work out well for both sides. Niji or other companies can't replicate this.
rip moona
>>11822167Pekomoon.....
>>11822136Watching NijiEN have their biggest talent stream over their wave 3 debut and make fun of them felt bizzare. Encapsulated a lot of the difference between Hololive and Niji. Myth was putting in work even during the ban to put Council over.
https://youtu.be/X5vzldxBUgcRushia is back, will she get SC rain?
>>11822167this damn rabbit
>>11822218That was quick. If she resume streaming normally then there goes Kson in top 1 monthly SCs.Her cat lived I guess>>11822167Pump and dump. No mercy.
>>11822202She stole their debut buff. >>11822218>stream for 5 minutes>already 80k yen
>>11822218>Rushia is back, will she get SC rain?this is not a question, the Questing is how big it will be
>>11822167uh oh
>>11822161In retrospect it would’ve been hard for HoloJP to push hard for HoloEN due to the language barrier. It was Myth and especially Guras success that allowed Gura to boost the entire company and put them on an equal enough footing that cross branch collabs were a buff for both parties.
>>11822238>Her cat lived I guessOn one hand>yay!On the other hand>damn cat, cockblocking the biggest SC rain since, I don't know, her last stream
>>11822243>stream for 5 minutes>already 80k yenwhen your yandere gf wants some attention you give it to her. rules are simple anon
Correct me if I'm wrong but I heard from before that Hololive management took a part of the overall SC pool to share with everyone regardless of their individual earnings. Cannot remember where or when I heard this or if it applied / applies to all branches.It's decently relevant to the box-pushing and sponsors sharing conversation right now.
>>11822202>Watching NijiEN have their biggest talent stream over their wave 3 debutYeah, goes to show they are not kidding about "creative freedom", they're free to steal the new gen thunder kek>>11822283>I heard from before that Hololive management took a part of the overall SC pool That's their cut>to share with everyoneThat would be the monthly wage for their streamers
>>11821860Cover are saviorfags to a fault.
>>11822161It makes me wonder why NijiEN went for the partial box push. Either go balls deep or don't go at all.
>Aqua backwith a collab with some idol game nonetheless (it seems)>Rushia back>Pekora "back"Today numberfags will feast
>>11822167Well… less than 20K?
>>11822283The Cover cut is what they use to pay Holomembers salary.
>>11822327NijiEN/ID/KR doesn't have a popular liver for them to leech on that's EOP friendly
>>11822344Oh, Haachama back too (right over Matsuri collab kek)
>>11822283they do pay everyone a basic salary but that comes from the company covers, not specifically from the SC cut that they take.Also for most holos the salary they get from cover is a pitance compared to even their SC earnings
>>11822344>another BanG collabThis game did a lot of stuff with holos, even on the EN side.
>>11822167oh but waithttps://twitter.com/usadapekora/status/1451486119862755329?s=21>1 hour latebut I can’t tell if this was before she put the frame up or after
>>11822289>>11822374If it's just wage then never mind. I remember it to be a different thing altogether from SCs like >>11822380
>>11822376That’s sort of amazing really. With like what, 150 talents not one can be a bridge to EOPs? That seems statistically improbable
>>11822380Better to have a salary than none at all
>>118222831. Hololive gets cut from members SCs2. hololive pays SMALL salary out of it to Every streamer under Hololive
That concert gave her a decent bump in sales it looks like.>>11822376Hana sabotaged herself, she was THE English speaking vtuber during her time.
>>11822416Hololive only had like 3 and everyone else just went along with the program.
>>11822416>>11822376Actually they had some talents that attracted EOP, but for some reason they filtered them out.See Hana MachiaSee Shizuka Rin
>>11822425I wouldn’t be surprised if the base salary has increased over time but it was basically minimum wage. Even “midgets” like Mel or Aki make far more in SC/members that their paltry wage. But it is nice to give née talents something to survive on and more importantly frame their contract as a literal job with obligations and expectations as well as some degree of security
>>11822444Also, some EOP known talent they have graduated or is on hiatus, like Lulu..
>>11822444Rin was just a fucking meme and Hana was just there. Neither extended their hand. I don't think it is a big deal since Anycolor doesn't care that much about the west and neither have their talents.
>>11822429I think it's also because the physical album is finally back in stock.
>>11822431Not sure if Nijisanji does it but Hololive tends to jump on trends as a group and that usually trickles down to indies/smaller corpos>>11822478This is digital sales only (itunes).
>>11822475Korone started becoming popular because of a fucking meme.
>>11822289>Watching NijiEN have their biggest talent stream over their wave 3 debutyou just used to Cover's corp policy.
>>11822475>Anycolor doesn't care that much about the westYeah that's why they set up an EN branch amirite?
https://twitter.com/donki_donki/status/1451458322683645970https://twitter.com/vv__official/status/1451458359648038914https://twitter.com/shishirobotan/status/1451458309740023811November is looking like a shill month for Hololive.
>>11822517Just to have it. It isn't a big investment and it has been working out well.
>>11822511>you just used to Cover's corp policy.It's pretty much standard in the entertainment industry not to pit your heavy hitters over your debutants.
>>11822528>https://twitter.com/shishirobotan/status/1451458309740023811Is that their 3rd Red Bull sponsorship?
>>11822491Botan somehow became the RU vtuber speaking no Russian because of three stripes, white hair, and an affinity for FPS. But instead of trying to filter the RU bros she basically embraced them. It’s not like she streams in Russian now but she plays into it and throws them a bone now and then. That’s all it takes. If Hololive ever debuts a Russian speaking Holo the pump will have been primed with clips and fans. It’s such a small investment for such a good return.
>>11822511Being part of Niji means being part of a competition. You can't slack off or you will get eaten by your coworkers and quickly reclines into irrelevancy. See Edengumi.Being part of Holo means being part of a group that actually tries to push each other to the top.
>>11822528>November is looking like a shill month for Hololive.Every month is a shill month.
>>11822567Why are Niji talents so xenophobic to their foreign fans while Hololive talents are always friendly and welcoming?
>>11822567>and throws them a bone now and then. That’s all it takesKorone likewise. In the peak of her popularity with EOP all she did to pander was to say>HEY GUUUUUISEto allow for them to show their presence. That's it.Throw a couple of "english only or the stream end" and she inclined like crazy
>>11822531>set up a Completely New branch >pay for 3 OG song and MV>advertisement>It isn't a big investmentare you fucking sure about that?> it has been working out well.true
>>11822567Holo is even inclining in Korea despite having no KR branch. If they ever debut a serious KR branch, it has a real chance of mogging NijiKR.
>>11822566I guess Red Bull really likes the results.
>>11822624>If they ever debut a serious KR branch, it has a real chance of mogging NijiKR.but EN is already doing that...
>>11822562are you sure any NijiEN member streamed over wave3 debu 1.0(!)?
>>11822613>are you fucking sure about that?Yes. It couldn't have been more than a few hundred thousand. The company wasn't really taking a risk since Cover took it for Nijisanji.
Ame may have accidentally done the first "Twitch style" stream on Youtube.>play a little bit>go to sleep, leave the stream on>come back, finish playingThis chart looks like some sort of giant, laid down and suffering
>>11822602When you're top dog in your home market, and these filthy EOP come along and start shitting up your chat, you have two options. Filter them the fuck outz or get them to assimilate and put them in their place. Rin opted for the former. Contrast that with Korone, who opted for the latter. For the smaller Niji's who were more welcoming, it doesn't matter because it doesn't transfer over to other livers, because their culture isn't set up in such a way that that wealth could be shared.
>>11822647NTA, but the watchalong during the debut did more to incline Selen at the cost of taking away the spotlight from the new wave.
>>11822647>are you sure any NijiEN member streamed over wave3 debu 1.0(!)?Yes, in the official channel nonetheless, it was some sort of "watchalong"
Can she break 20K with a shill stream?
>>11822672Selen was the star of the wave 3 debuts. I can't even remember anything interesting for them and only remember the laughing dragon.
>>11822161Nijisanji can actually replicate this by leeching off of Holos through collabs that's why they have their shills pushing this agenda ever since Lazu Light's debut.
>>11822702Selen is a numbers blackhole for the Nijis.
>>11822579>Being part of Holo means being part of a group that actually tries to push each other to the top.this is more "conscious decision".+ if we will take Holo EN as example we ve got>1JP>3NA>1EUeasier to not overlap
>>11822602Most aren't, most seem pretty pleased with having foriegn fans. Nijisanji just had bad luck that the wrong people caught attention whereas Korone was the landing spot for westerners.
>>11822696Considerintg the chart is still on the "1k / minute" incline, she likely already did and youtube is just verifying viewers and releasing in batches
>>11822660>>11819146It's called the gosling. Learn it because it's going to be in numberfag history.
>>11822696Absolutely. She's doing a challenge vs Sora and Fubuki for highest score. Filthy EOP who can't read moonrunes, so I didn't catch the exact rules they're using.
>>11822704HoloEN management won't allow collabs with them.
>>11822639>>11822624An entire KR branch seems a little risky but an EN that engages fully with KR would seem like a good option. Guras Galaxy cover has 650k views and doesn’t even come up on YouTube search since the title is entirely in Korean. An actual Korean will face issues that a Korean speaking American who speaks the language and shows respect for the culture would not
>>11822716>easier to not overlapThat's a meme. Unless they have a day job that requires their utmost attention and discipline (liek Calli back in the days, or Ina for the most part) a streamer can stream at any time they prefer regardless of their timezone.See: Kuzuha.
>>11822704As much as I like to shit on Cover at least they got two things right>scouting/applicationsand>not giving your competitors any chanceThe only few that seems interested in collabing are only Kiara and Pomu anyway.
>>11822736Yes, that's why the next option is to steal their artists by pandering to them on twitter
>>11822736>HoloEN management won't allow collabs with them.I doubt that but, if true, that's smart as fuck.HoloEN doesn't collab even among themselves for the most part
>>11822716I think Mori being in JP and Kiara being in EU is kinda just coincidence more than anything. It worked for numbers though.Maybe they actually have a voodo witch doctor on their payroll.
>>11822613Don't forget that they change the company name to English when they released NijiEN
>>11822672>>11822672>are you sure any NijiEN member streamed over wave3 debu 1.0(!)?>Yes, in the official channel nonetheless, it was some sort of "watchalong"i think this was smart way to draw more eyes to new wave.>b-but wave 3 numbersthey are flope and this is not the reason whybut you are entitled to your opinion.
>>11822763Nah. Artists will always draw what’s most popular they are some of the biggest numbers fags in existence. Events and debuts might sway them as they ride the hype but there’s a reason there’s so much Gura art
>>11822738if Kronii decides to pander to Koreans from time to time, then that might be a possibility sooner than later. Kiara already does some Duolingo streams learning Korean
>>11822702>Selen was the star of the wave 3 debuts. >I can't even remember anything interesting for them and only remember the laughing dragon.blame NijiEN scoutes
>>11822817Kiara has a huge Korean fanbase relatively speaking. I have literally no idea why. That clip bait was actually in reaction to a longtime fan doing his mandatory service.
>>11822806Did it really draw more viewers? People like to tour streams with big numbers, splitting the CCV could have hurt the chances of having more tourists watching.
>>11822751Don't NijiENs have jobs?
>>11822696Fuuuuck, she peaked just under 20k and then is done for today's challenge looks like.I'm sad.
>>11822738bless that ame shitposter that started this.
>>11822867Pomu quit hers to stream. Her life depends on the gachis. If she collabs with a wave 4 debut and got a ship going, she'll be begging for SCs after.
>>11822793Means nothing, they probably had that in the pipeline for a while. If it did that'd be sad. It must be a coincidence.
>gacha pull ends>viewers dropThey should just do gacha pulls 24/7 for every stream, japs love this shit way too much.
>>11822902Pomu hasn't quit hers yet. She complains about her job all the time.
>>11822857in my opinion most ppl who was on main channel would not come to wave3 debu in a 1st place.this is just Niji using their already established members to draw some attention.do NOT forget most EOPs do NOT know/care about Niji as a whole, see them as midget corp and watch only 1-2 member (Chumbuds-case)
>>11822900Witch voodoo and black magic fuckert!They can't keep getting away with this!
>>11822905Make Hololive gacha game. Girls play and do pulls on stream. Amazing numbers girls make more money. Spend it on more pulls trying to get UR Gura beachside bikini party skin (L2D voiced, requires SSR Gura). It’s an infinite money machine.
>>11822663I think it helped to turn a lot of holomems to get on board with the whole foreigner thing because it was actually working. I think it had a snowball effect.
>>11822959In my opinion, people who would watch the watchalong would probably check the debut nonetheless without it.Those who are subbed to the main channel are a little bit more invested in Niji than the casual tourists, so of course they would support the debuts.
>>11822968That's why I hate the MMO game they're doing. They're literally giving up infinite money for a project that might not even work out.Do the gacha game first before becoming more ambitious! It's a strange risky move considering that Cover was kinda conservative with their decisions.
>>11822905>18 CCV from 20kkek, like is suffering
>>11822931She was actually complaining to another NijiEN about wanting to quit their OL jobs. And it didn’t sound like it was out of obligation like Mori. If they quit they probably lose benefits in addition to their income. Risky stuff. Who knows what the long term outlook for NijiEN is? Need to have at least several months of living expenses etc saved up before they quit their regular job. If they had to go indie again they don’t have the fanbase to be secure yet.
>>11822992>subbed to the main channeldid you hear about YT algoritm?
>>11822867Rosemi has a full-time paid internship and Pomu works part-time at an office. Reimu said she worked part-time too, but not sure what her job is. Millie and Enna work minimum wage part-time jobs. Beyond that Petra is in college, while the rest are all NEETs (Finana and Selen used to do freelance art commissions so they can always go back to that for extra cash).
>>11823026I can only assume one is in the works maybe with an established partner. Remember they have already partners with companies who have gacha who would be direct competitors. Seems safer to work with them instead of trying to be a new entrant. It’s such an obvious source of money even Cover can’t be that dumb. Look at these damn card packs. Four figures for a signed Coco or Marine? There no way they ignore this. Right?
>>11823061>>11823036those girls ain't gonna be quitting their jobs anytime soon if niji keeps pumping out new waves
>>11823084Didn't those card packs sell out right away?
>>11823036So this is the power of freedom...
>>11823084don't their collabs with current gachas (like d4dj and bandori) preclude their own gacha? I imagine bushiroad doesn't want the competition.... unless bushiroad is....
Gotta give it to this Kanauru blokehttps://www.youtube.com/c/kanauru/videosHe transitioned from some sort of DDR dancer to a Hololive animator (thanks to Korone, it seems) to great success.He's a little dumb tho (like DudulTV, no offense if you're here mate), he puts the complete product on Reddit instead of a teaser and a link to his channel.
>>11823129they aren't even that free, they can't do things like sing english karaoke like their competition can, at least they can collab with men i guess(none of them besides selen really bother doing that though)
>>11823133>>11823084Hopefully it's because Bushiroad or some other company is doing the Hololive gacha for them. Otherwise Cover is actually retarded or is actually already infested by bugs that want to sabotage them.
>>11823061HoloEN are useless NEETs in comparison. I think they have 2 jobs between the 11 of them and one is in school. Makes me wonder why NijiENs can stream so often but it is always a fight to get HoloENs to stream. Mental illness?
>>11823098SC being an unreliable source of income with staggered pay and not having any sponsorships.
>>11823188The mental illnesses are what actually makes them endearing to the fans, so Cover corp scouting strategy is working.
>>11823166Niji creative freedom is a cope. The true creative freedom lies in Vshojo.
>>11823171>Hopefully it's because Bushiroad or some other company is doing the Hololive gacha for them>Otherwise Cover is actually retardedI would say a little bit of column A, a little bit of column B.Think about it: Hololive started because Tanigo was betting his ass on how VR characters (like VR Chat) would take root and they had software made for it (see webm).They never ever EVER EEEEVER *10^26 thought they would become an "entertainment company", talent manager and multimedia producer in their wildest dreams>not even 4 years agoand most definitely didn't have the manpower, expertise or even the inclination to do so.They're pretty much a typewriter company that ended up succeeding at manufacturing machine guns by some twist of fate, and now are in the industrial machine complex supplying the whole Japanese army>with pretty much the same staff they had before
>>11823036>Pomu>long term outlookpff
>>11823253>The true creative freedom lies in Vshojo.kek, althought that's true their best numbers lately come from>minecraftGoes to show how much the audience values "creative freedom"
>>11823280>>11823253Just because people have freedom that doesn't mean they use it.
>>11823294>Just because people have freedom that doesn't mean they use it.so.. WHAT IS THE FUCKING POINT OF IT?!this anon was right>>11823253>Niji creative freedom is a cope.
>>11823294And just because people have freedom it doesn't always make for good content.
>>11823280Creative freedom isn't jack shit if they have no entertainment value.
>>11823203They all have memberships though, Pomu, Elira, and Selen probably have 3k by now. Also the Lazulight girls have done a sponsorship stream. The bigger thing is when are they releasing more seasonal and themed VPs, that's where all the money is.
>>11823188>Makes me wonder why NijiENs can stream so oftenIt's not a can. It's that they have to. Niji EN is like a gladiator arena right now. If you slack off or even just take a health break like Pomu did, you're gonna get fucked. Once they debut you, you have like 2-3 months to establish your dedicated base until Niji drop a new wave and they're the hot new thing.
>>11823333>VPs ngmi... They should really really up their merch game.
>>11823188Kronii said she worked in customer service before, dunno if she quit it after she got into Hololive though or even way before that.
>>11823348>Once they debut you, you have like 2-3 months to establish your dedicated basethis is good way of thinking about corp vtuber career in general to be honest
>>11823382Council probably got their first BIG paychecks recently. I wonder if that will light a fire under their ass. Imaginary money is different from what is in your pocket.
>>11823382>Kronii said she worked in customer service before>dunno if she quit it after she got into Hololivehuh?
>>11822394after
>>11823402for holos it doesn't matter though
>>11823348All of LazuObs are deliberately streaming less than before to give the new girls a space, they used to invariably do 7 streams a week, now all of them do 5 scheduled streams a week with maybe a guerilla if they get bored and are free. Otoh you have Reimu doing 10+ streams a week.>>11823367VPs are basically free money for minimal effort.
Whats the current peak for kuzuha's Apex stream today?
>>11823449>VPs are basically free money for minimal effort.HL seems allergic to free money. They can wring their gachikoi for every septim if they did more voice packs. Nijisanji is light years ahead in revenue generation.
>>11823420She didn't elaborate on it much, im talking about the possibility she was working until she got the notice she'd been accepted, then maybe she finished her work contract before they debuted, cause going from her activities most people assumed she was just living the NEET life.
>>11823483Yet Hololive makes more money.
>>11823516No they don't. Their profit is higher because they don't reinvest.
>>1182347922k something
>>11823483Holos do voice packs now and then. They don’t seem super enthusiastic about them. Maybe they have better ways of making money. Not like it’s some mystery to them.
>>11823530Their profit is higher because they don't do unnecessary expense like ads, Expansion to poopland and FLOW. .
>>11823479>Whats the current peak for kuzuha's Apex stream today?That would be right now, about 24k and growing as primetime approaches>>11823530>No they don't. Their profit is higher because they don't reinvest.That's a speculation. I don't remember having seen "cost breakdown" in those financial reports, wasn't it just "revenue"»
>>11823446it is. they still will get some fans but without establishing themself they will be midget or (even worse) "Anya-tier" chuba for ever
>>11822283>overall SC pool to share with everyoneAbsolutely retarded idea. It then becomes in the top earners best interest to create cliques to reduce the pool by getting rid of the rest who 'don't produce enough money'. I actually heard this particular rrat in niji where it syncs with the bullying rrats.
>>11823479Not so fast bro, Kanae and Chihiro joined and it's trending, even their Apexfag friends tweeted about it.
>>11823687Yeah, looking like an easy 30k+
>>11823582Maybe they find them cringe. Niji livers don't have a problem with them though. Maybe it's content.
>>11823687The king is carrying Niji once again. Maybe the 12 win strak for Niji might actually happen LOL.
>Subaru dabbing on the whole field with Pokemon card gacha
>>11823723Not so fast. Pekkers is streaming again, and we all know that King hasn't been able to get easy solid 30k+ for Apex recently.
>>11823582>>11823714>They don’t seem super enthusiastic about themjust w8 for Kronii's bd
>>11823483>They can wring their gachikoi for every septim if they did more voice packs.Eh, high tier holo nowadays is busy enough to record a requested voice line, for low-midget tier holo VP could be an alternative if their SC game are weak, but why should i care tho, they can do what they want to do
>>11823752Might be able to with a male collab. Manjisanji and all that.
>>11823687so that's how nijisanji can winthey just get all their apex players in a team and have them stream apexkek
>>11823769Also, the recent island survival arc might have revitalized some viewers and attracted some tourists to Niji this week.
Aqua wrapped up, Subaru seems to be going for a 20k+
>>11823772Numbers are numbers. I kneel to the king if he tops this day.
>>11823772>>11823846Seems to have more or less stalled at 24k, but carried Kanae to today's ranking.Can Chihiro make it to 10k?
>>11823846>kneelingWhat a fall from grace. The days where solo 50k normal Apex are no more. He should be stripped of his title soon if this keeps up.
>>11823714Correct https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dziIm1EcrHo
Oof, the Pekora stream is a Minecraft one, such a coincidence going against Moona that one might even think its kinda malicious.
Peko will stream MC today
>>11824095>>11824097my prediction... rip
>>11824021>CorrectDoesn't seem like it is because she thinks it's cringe, but she clearly rather record a Cover if she has the time to do a voice pack
>>11824095Pekker granted Moona her incline, she's free to take it away if she pleases.
There's quite a lot of HoloJP sponsorship lately, there's one for that discount store, one for a bookstore and recent Marvel sponsorship. I wonder when we can see more sponsorships for HoloEN, especially Council.
The Matsuri debuff field is turning up to be formidable.Not only her collab with Nene is trailing even Mel but it's causing Nene to have her first sub 5k stream in 4 weeks.
>>11824224>and recent Marvel sponsorshipA Square Enix one, the relationship between Hololive and Marvel is indirect through them
>>11824141pekora is ruthless as always
>>11824224EN is still on an anime expo arc, tho i think it will finally end tomorrow. There's also the pixiv art contest still going on. Still nothing for council, but they're still new.
>>11824141Pekora said she might be late for up to an hour.
>>11824237It Takes Two is also a debuff game if it takes too long to complete.
>>11824224Hard to have those store sponsorships outside of Japan.EN has mostly been getting game, merch and con sponsors.
On a lower scale but, Ngo is doing really well since her recent memes.She's finally becoming the most successful Selejo, playing Punch out to more than double her normal audience.
>>11824395Is it actually a big brain play to illegally funnel views into Moona's outfit reveal?Sasuga Usagi. Pekomoon is safe.
>>11824398>It Takes Two is also a debuff>it takes too long to complete.pff, nc1
>>11824403Yeah EN is generally just that hard to capitalize, do you remember the first physical merchandise from myth?
>>11824395her waiting room is expecting her anytime now. Knowing Pekora she might just push out, watch Moona thing and start RIGHT AFTER to catch the whole outflow
>>11824437First physical merch was Ame’s birthday.Myth as a whole I think it was the 6m anniversary acrylic stands.
>>11824427If. IF. The faster you finish the better, because you can actually keep people invested if you can get it done in 2-3 streams.
Subaru with just enough momentum to beat 20k
Haachama triggering every arachnophobe Haaton in existence
>>11824486w8, you didnt get your own joke?!reread
>>11824422>pekor actually using moona outfit reveal as her MC waiting roomthat's how you use your slave Usada san, respect
>>11824478Damn 6 months eh? It's acrylic stands and keychains right? cause I remember the response to it being a tad disappointment.
>>11824576I'm the anon you replied to originally, but I'm not the other anon who defended my point.i actually think I might have confused the game, because some people here were talking about a similar thing the past few number thread.
>>11824371I wonder how long it will take for Council to get anything.
>>11824614I think the merch was disappointing because Cover wanted to see if EN fans actually buy merch. Don't want to go all out and embarrass themselves by not selling out.
>>11824175Jesas, do you have friends?
>>11824754We're on 4chan. What do you thing?
>>11821860>I have for example, $105k budget for this promo, can I get Marine, Pekora, Aqua and Miko?>Cover: no, that would be for example $350k. If you want 4 members for that budget, we'll see what 4 members can fit into that. >ok just make sure you get me Marine
>>11824754This is numbers thread anon.
Mel original song debuting soongive me your predictions
>>11815613Manjisanji mogged by Femjisanji?How could this be?
>>11824845100k in 2-3 weeks.
>>11824870Because Chima is a god-tier singer who needs an original already
>>11824845Don't know, hopefully well but I doubt it. She doesn't have enough of a presence in the hololive ecosystem to get a boost. It could be a banger though, you never know if an original song is even good. The movie will be the tv size version.
>>11824845If I heard correctly, she said every Hololive member (JP) made a contribution.
>>11822167Peora is ruthless, the moment you don't bring numbers she throws you out like a used rag
>>11821562>Coco merchDoes she still get checks from hololive? What if she is still technically on payroll.
>>11825062TV size? It might have higher short term growth (easy to loop).
Two heavyweights of each company.both playing their main game.
>>11825130Coco isn’t stupid, there is a good chance she got to keep some revenue stream from Cover in exchange for them using her image to promote and sell merch.It would also explain why she legally went after people who tried to splice clips to make it sound like she was shitting on Cover.
Moona...
>>11825247Indog? Check filename before posting
>>11825247I can expect this kind of stuff from JP, but Ollie is a fellow ID, what the fuck is she doing overlapping the only senpai that treated her decently?
>>11825355Collabs are exempt from the overlap rule
Mel's 3D live is going to have lots of guests, she might get some good numbers.First row should be Botan - Nene - Choco - Shion.Second row is much harder to see, but if those 2 in the bottom right are Marine and Pekora it's assured numbers.
>>11825247probably 16k, sorry moon. big member stream rn. ID is not in a good position. especially with the sudden costume announcement. i swear they have terrible advertisement
>>11825247bad day, 20K is a low chance now, probably 15K too
A battle for the centuries. Each playing their signature game. Advantage King so far, he has his sidekick while Pekora’s is showing her outfit, debuffing her queen
>>11825398>5 hours in with collab>already 20k 11 minutes in
>>11825398>KCK buff>only 23kReclining….
Tough slot for anyone without braids in her hair
>>11825385Box pushing in action.
>>11825480Poruka has a braid...
>>11825398The king has become old and frail.
>>11825505He’s fighting valiantly
>>11825389That's still too much, 10-15k is the ID range.
Will EN's outfit take place in next week?Mori postponed her Doom stream.
Niji slot so far >anyone below the Gwelu line got cut for space
Moona has less viewers now than her usual Ksraoke streams. Yikes
>>11825538No, it's not an outfit reveal. We know that they aren't happening in October.
>>11825524Took only 18 minutes.Time to strip King of his title.
>>11825573ID must have requested “no special privilege” or something. First doing their own MC server, then overlapping special events and now getting overlapped. It surely feels like they are trying to survive in a more independent fashion>which is a bloody mistake
>>11825607welp, that was fast
>>11825573well, gotta thank Pekora for that
>>11825607The king is dead!LONG LIVE THE QUEEN!
>>11825526>iofi : 12k>risu : 14kif the math is coorect, then she should have around 16k
>>11825607>>11825524>>11825398rabbitCHAD, i kneel...
>>11825632Thanks based Pekora. She saw the King was moving in for an easy mogging of the day and swoop into the fight to give Holos a fighting chance
>>11825573>her "friend" went out of her way to make sure no one went to her big eventkek
GYARU
man i cant wait for marine's mogging to return, she'll likely have a slight buff for her next few streams purely because of how long she's been gone but on the other hand she's likely really tired from 3rd gen concert + whatever work she had to do on her off-time and that might affect the quality of her streams. just want the peko mogging to be challenged even by a bit
>>118256071 silver and 1 bronze is worth more than a measly gold. We have 4th place too.
>the king is dead>the emperor was a flukeWhat title should we use next? The three musketeers?
If she plays the reveal well she may hit 15k
>>11825621>Have the branding buff to pull immense views, unheard of for vtubers in your country>Have the buff of all members speaking the world language, English>Have the buff of personal relations with massive streamers>"Let's kill any advantage that may give us out of some retarded pride feeling. ID STRONG">Become irrelevantI hope the people making these decisions get fired soon
>>11825697The three stooges
>>11825694rumao rumaoSuddenly silver and bronze matters when you can't take gold for yourself anymore
>>11825694Subaru managed a 20k streamAqua had 19.9k CCV
>>11825697Anon, the Emperor is likely the leader in appearances in the Top 10 for October
>>11825718what? having a Minecraft server is bad somehow, you retard
>>11825694anonchama..
Huh, has the holoCouncil hashtag always been like this?Why is it unavailable?
>>11825783NTA but they’re playing in creative mode.
To be fair, a lot of people are getting seriously chewed up and spat out by primetime today besides Moona>Nene/Matsuri collab>Polka/Sora collab>KanataAnd there are another 5 streams set to start within the next half hour or so.
Council also have 2 10K+ stream, but the site does not have their data.
>>11825783It’s not “having a server” but>retreating from the main server in the exact moment it gave the biggest buff to the whole company
>>11825833no really, they got some material at the start and that's it
>>11825851It gets added “manually” every time with the correct values from holostats
3k different now
>>11825865they'll get their own buff when the ID server merge happens
I honestly can't tell if people are falseflagging or they're actually this retarded.
Moona revealing too fastIt's over
>>11825919What went wrong with the King? Are people just getting tired of him?
>>11825930>they'll get their own buff when the ID server merge happensYeah, right. “The once in a lifetime” moment was right now, with Council debut and the JP-EN merger and respective first contacts. Everybody remembers Neil Armstrong but nobody gives a fuck about that 7th man on the moon that played golf or some shit
>>11825930>inb4 minecraft viewership slowly dying and other member has found a new game to get addicted
MOONA YES DO IT SLOW
>>11825991they have a gen 1 collab tonight
>>11826007At this point, maybe they're probably merge when ID3 debuts.
It's over 4k
>>11826121He peaked higher before. He can still win!
>>11826007it's not that big of a buff dude.You'll get some streams with big numbers but your regular numbers will stay the same
Nope she is doing it from the head.
>moona won't even beat iofijesas... the rabbit murdered her
Lucky for moona that pekora is also streaming rn, or she'd be receiving the lecture of a lifetime for such a retarded outfit reveal
Here is the peak I caught. That will probably be it.>>11826219Lol same peak
What is this Moona...too soon...gah, even the goddamn treerat had more sense than this!
>>11826251same like iofi, damn. they really need a new manager
>>11826178>it's not that big of a buff dudeFor fuck sake, every ID have at very least one of their top streams>maybe the topwith either Akukin relay or Usaken relay or EN Portal relay.
>>11826370>You'll get some streams with big numbers but your regular numbers will stay the sameKiara is a prime example
this was just as disappointing as polka's and aki's outfit reveals
>>11826320treerrat is smart. Even during her first peak around 11k she reminds everyone to tweet hololive Id outfit reveal hashtags
Yeah, they should have done a relay like ID2, Cover ffs why are you competent one day and shit the bed the other day.
>>11826559They probably asked for it.
>>11826559probably because ID2 asked for the relay event and the antinumberfags of ID1 refused it
almost 6k
>>11826733>decreasedIt's over for the "king". Stick a fork in him.
did moona's stream die
>>11826733Stop kicking former king's corpse, he's already dead.
>>11825569There’s…. There’s niji talents below that line? Kiara would be #2 with her crap time slot on this list. That should be the line
>>11826793Yep.
jesus, isn't the "king" collabing with people too?
>>11826793Sadly yes
She's not even done yet.
>>11826827Below Gwelu Line? Yeah Niji ID
>>11826836he's got kanae and chihiro with him
>>11826868what the fuck, how do these even get the will to stream anyway
>>11826844I wonder how much ayame will get for her "return"
>>11826868Jesus. Are any of them good? HoloID has a gen 3 coming soon don’t they?
>>11826883yikes...it really is over
>>11826914>>11826914>>11826914Migrate when ready
>>11826901Clearly enough, since their managers manage to secure a phone sponsorship of all things for NijiID.
>>11826976>Hana
>Near 900k subs>Couldn't even beat Risu's outfit revealIs Moona the queen of the deadsubs?
>>11827028
>>11822385That was D4DJ that collabed with EN. Different game, though I think it is the same company?
>>11827190
>>11827244Wait fuck, I forgot about Shark juice.Nevermind, I am wrong.
>>11827244Fucking hell cover, get them some more poses other than defaults, it's been a year.
>>11827284Even Suisei has been stuck in this pose since forever kek
>>11827284kek too expensive for a tiny company purizu andastando
>>11827284The collab was back in April so not really a year yet.Not an excuse for default poses but yeah.They have different poses for some of the girls for the Dokomi collab, but even then Mori was in default.
A bit low but well there are 12 holos streaming
>>11823151The man is definitely made. He is rich and had big projects with actual Kpop groups (He had a project with 2NE1) and this is probably just the hobby he fell into after making bank.