/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Change Japan's copyright laws.

branch out from the anime art style

Don't you get tired of roleplaying, Anon?

nijien males will revolutionize the game

It's slowing down in the west maybe, they're having concerts over in Japan.

>>11766625

The "honeymoon" period started when Myth debuted, and ended when Council debuted. That's not me blaming Council for the decline in overall interest, but me saying "this is the point when the hype was officially over". Ethyria saturated the market further and stretched thin what little hype was remaining.

Numbers are declining because there's a lot of supply and not as much demand. Content is stagnating because the talents have gotten complacent. Enthusiasm is at an all time low because, well, nothing feels new anymore. I used to watch only HoloMyth, but I've branched out to Obsydia and Lazulight now because Minecraft day in, day out is boring. And HoloLive is the reason why the hobby has gotten so many new people to begin with, so when they're producing repetitive and boring content, the hobby as a whole is going to feel the effects.

I think the hype will be regenerated once V-Tubing, as a whole, spreads out to more places than YT and Twitch.

Kson will save us.

It's never better. KYS.

>>11767453
She's doing the same shit she did before, except instead of Okayu meme reviews, she's doing Ohio meme reviews.

>>11767321
>Muh market saturation

idk what you're talking about, my oshi is great lovely and fun, eat shit get fucked nerd.

>oshi and friends having fun all the time
>Sister Claire just released a beautiful album
>Suisei released a stellar album
>Mito concert is later in the year
>Crazy Nijiguys island series
>VSPO will get 3D in the future
>all the fun upcoming tournaments
>all the concerts, corporation AND indie that happened in 2021
>Holostars all getting 3D
>so many vtuber covers and originals and albums
>a guy on /vt/ who was curious if he was fit for NijiEN ended up streaming independently due to being inspired by anons telling him he has talent
I'm having tons of fun, seriously. Feels like I chose the right time to be into vtubers. Something is happening all the damn time.

>>11767739
>basic economic concept doesn't apply here because... It just doesn't ok???

>>11767321
Wtf is Ethyria?

>>11768695
Google blockchain

>>11767453
Isn't she trying to save the JP(?) Indie scene? You can put hope to that, if you are into JP vtubers anyway...

>>11768342
Why would the viewers care about it? The Japan market is way more bloated but survives just fine.

>>11768269
B-But the NUMBERS! Saturated market!!!! You're not supposed to be having fun!!!

>>11766625
>Numbers are declining, content is stagnating, general enthusiasm for the medium is at an all time low
Unironically check out /tsun/, /clg/, and /ppg/. Everyone in those startups is inclining, particularly Tsunderia. They're preparing for their 3rd generation and Prism is preparing for their 4th

>>11769457
>2 views inclining to 3 views

>>11766625
Give Gura more MVs
Gura is the entry point to the rabbit hole now
Better be quick while she's still trending

>>11767321
This is a lot of words to say “I don’t really know.”

>>11766625
My JP chuubas are still on the incline tho

>>11766625
Only Hololive.

>>11769419
Yeah when my oshi is in a tournament collab and her noombers are lower than usual, but she's laughing her ass off with her friends to the point where she almost falls out of her chair, I'm actually supposed to be sad for her and make gay threads like this one.

Like all hobbies, people will eventually quit. The only solution is to attract more new people in, more than those who left.

>>11766625
Stop watching corpos
Immediately becomes happy

>>11766625
They need to pull more viewers from outside the vtubing pot. Make different kinds of content. Be creative. Making skits or just videos in general in addition to their normal streams would probably help.

>>11771353
>Having to come up with an original idea
>Recording
>And editing on top of that
Brain hort, I'll just play Minecraft instead.

>>11766625
nothing vtubers are already a big niche

>>11766625
Cultural exchange, vtuber become an oversea partner you can interact with. JP should make whale hunting stream, ID should make religious rituals stream, and EN should do KKK stream.

>>11766625
>What can be done to regenerate the hype?

Permissions for classic Western games, and ongoing collabs that aren't Minecraft/Arc, like an MMO.

>>11766625
Only holo content stagnating, enjoy your endless minecrap content

I dunno about the entire market but Hololive was completely destroyed by the VOD apocalypse, Taiwan incident and JP gen 5 launch. Cover is in full maintenance mode.

holos need to play more story-based AAA games (TLOU or RDR) so we can get another nigger incident but honestly its more fun when they play games like that

I feel bad for people who only watch HoloEN/NijiEN.

>>11766625
>numbers declining

Market saturation and they all copy gura. K-son Gang will change the game.

>>11772264
Both groups have more than enough girls for someone to watch. What reason is there to watch someone else?

>>11768342
This is just /biz/ economics 101. Basic market principles do not apply and buying high is a good idea because it just is, okay?

>>11772317
Screencapped for the eventual embarrassment this post will cause you.

Are we just saying market saturation to sound smart?

>>11772316
Because you all cry about stagnation and boredom when so much is happening outside it

>>11766703
>Disney hires official vtuber voices for the Disney Princesses
would you?

>>11772453
Like what?
>inb4 more vidya and singing

>>11772482
Well on the main NijiJP channel they're doing a deserted island series right now. That's neither gaming nor singing

>>11772399
I guess they weren't joking when they said this board was full of low IQ autists from reddit.

>>11772519
>Men
No thanks

>>11772536
Then stop complaining bitch

>>11772453
/vt/ becomes easier to understand when you take into account how small the board's scope of the hobby truly is. I'm not even trying to sound like an elitist faggot when I say that, it's just that major JP groups go unknown by the majority of our users.

>>11772577
You can't make me, the market IS saturated, numbers ARE going down and vtubing IS getting stagnant.

>>11772453
Only holofag cry, i still enjoying all different content nijiEN girl give to me

>>11772613
Maybe that only happened in your head

>>11773490
based eop

>>11773556
am retarded
meant esl
forgive me

>>11772613
if you have enough time to watch streams you can learn japanese, the real content is only inclining and by the time you are fluent it might be at its peak

>>11766625
>What can be done to regenerate the hype?
Bros, it's time to pick up our reps again. English vtubers aren't improvising, adapting and overcoming fast enough to outpace power creep.

>>11771353
You know, edited skits were actually the main vtuber meta back in the Kizuna Ai & Four Kings days.
But I think the "evolution" (or devolution, if you dislike it) into mainly game-streaming was a natural inevitable thing, after Niji and Holo have shown this to be the way forward. Because of how most of the vtuber business model is now superchat-based, and a 2hour stream with live interaction gives much more opportunity to collect superchats (and fosters the parasocial fan interaction that makes them more likely to superchat again in the future) than a 10 minute prerecorded video.
It's also a simple matter of effort vs. reward. That 10 minute skit video probably also took 2 hours to script, record and edit in the background, and you could use those same 2 hours anyway to just start a stream and play a game (no need to script or edit anything, you just need to react to what is happening in the game, simply easy lazy).

>>11773715
You will never be Japanese.

>>11774765
Yeah but my kids will be

>>11766625
>What can be done to regenerate the hype?
Eliminate all EN vtubers.
Return to the idol culture of early Hololive.

EOP niggers who didn't understand idol culture spent a great deal of time saying why it was super duper bad, when it was those strict controls on what a talent could and couldn't do that maintained standards.

>>11772462
Could work if it was prerecorded skits. Anything live would have to be carefully managed.

>>11772435
Because they're idiots that don't know the word glut

I dunno I thought there's been some good streams on this week

>>11766625
>Isn't the state of vtubing at the moment depressing?
The market will soon collapse due to over inflation of vtubers.

>>11780130
Oversaturation is a real boogeyman you guys are worrying about. The market has been oversaturated for a very long time. Just like streamers, new talents will still find ways to break through, and you will still be able to enjoy your chuubas all the time.

It's not about the numbers, it's about finding an oshi that became a vtuber to have fun and to enjoy time with their audience doing whatever the heck they want

>>11768269
Most people here only watch holoEN so they project their complaints about it onto vtubing as a whole

>>11766625
-Mandatory improv and singing classes
-Tell Owl and Chicken to stop being cunts
-Stop complaining about low viewers or that they have lives outside of watching anime girls, stop implying viewers are worse than the streamer because the streamer "might" make more money than them
-Get hype for new zatsu collabs
-Gurame comeback soon
-Next year or the next, lockdowns will end and we'll finally get 3D EN collabs, starting the peak of EN content era
-live concerts with Myth, Council, and EN3 girls, including solo concerts and collab concerts

Not even complaining about Minecra streams, but EN really needs more games like Minecra that make guerilla collabs easy and laid back. Something that doesn't require too much attention so you can focus on chat, you can log in or out at any time and share a virtual space with senpais and kouhais. Minecra really is kino for these reasons but these aspects aren't taken advantage of enough. More audience engagement in general would be nice.

>>11780130
People were saying the same about general livestreamers for close to a decade now, and yet here we are.

>>11780403
It's hard scheduling game as Hololive cause some need a week notice, minecra is forever so when the girls can't pick something to ask their managers a week before then it's block game time. Indies have it easier but most of them are anti idol number whiners

It was impossible to keep up "the hype". Infinite or exponential growth is impossible. There isn't any new audiences to expand to that 99% of this board wouldn't hate with a passion. There is continued growth but it will never match the explosion Hololive had in 2020, because Hololive is so big it is impossible for it to grow at what would be considered the same hype. Gura getting 1 million subs was impressive. Gura going from 2 million to 3 million subs no-one cares, no-one will care when she reaches 4 million. You guys realize Pekora is what, the 3rd most watched in hours of female streamers in the world? There's not really much expanding to do. The hype will exist with expanding to different medium, such as games/anime. EN can still have potential of all weeb streamers becoming Vtubers and some non-weebs becoming Vtubers as well.
But really there is no expansion that will match the same exponential levels of hype of something "new/unpopular/unknown" becoming "popular". Where is the next place to go from the current popularity? It can only be a level of mainstream that everyone here would despise.

>>11774783
Hell yes player that's what's up. Mine too

>>11766625
i dont know i had fun watching shachou on an uninhabited island today

>>11774783
>being attracted to moon people
Ha ha literally getting your DNA filtered.

>>11782527
not him, but my DNA already got filtered in Appalachia when my ancestors were too racist to not commit incest

>>11766625
just enjoy

>>11766625
Honestly ever since council debuted I've been watching VTubers way more than ever now that EN is no longer isolated by AuTism fields and kino impromptu interactions happen all the time. I feel bad for numberfags. How do you even feel pleasure?

>>11766625
stop listening to retards on this website and just enjoy the medium

>>11790384
How am I supposed to enjoy when I don't have a big number telling me how much I should be enjoying the stream?

Don't you worry. Sony heart your prayers and will drop a truckload of chuubas for a once in a lifetime Vtuber Battle Royale experience. You can place your bets on who will survive the first month shortly!

>JP
Things are great.
>EN
Hololive has tinted everyone's view of what vtubers should be and now that's starting to become stale.

>>11782392
>>11774783
literal söy boys

>>11766625
That's how holobronies feel.
NijiEN has fresh and entertaining new content, including their recent russian and spanish streams.
When NijiEN debuts their male wave, the EN industry will start it's revolution.

>>11792333
and?

>>11792709
>NijiEN debuts their male wave, the EN industry will start it's revolution.
kinda doubt that anon... unless they can play competitively in e-sports or are really relatable, the demographic for male anime roleplayers in the west is kinda low....