/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

My sides
Chicken BTFO

Sometimes you gotta be harsh so people understand its over

Based mori tired of lesbian shit

I love how autistic cali is. I 100% agree with what she is saying but she shouldn't tell this to her audience.

Should have just said "there's 6 more people in Hololive now so collabs will be more spread out by nature." She has a habit of making nothing sound like something.

>Mori is closer with people who actually live in her timezone/she can meet up with IRL compared to Kiara, who has notably ghosted Mori multiple times in the past couple of months
Wow, shocking, who could've seen it coming.

She's Gura's lapdog now

>>11761339
your boi is not much of a decent person , what do you rhink "bully" is about ? Mori pumps and dumps people close to her , thats why she has do drowns herself in alcohol to be able to stand herself , all for money , fame and manlets

>>11761339
my rrat is that mori's podcast that spontaneously came up halfway through the jump king endurance stream with bae and irys was so good she just couldn't go back

>>11761339
kek does Kiara even have an actual friend in Hololive?

>>11761339
I feel vindicated. I spent months tellimg delusional Takamori fags that Mori and Kiara are simply business acquantances and I got screeched at about how they're super best friends behind the scenes and simply inseperable.

They're just autistics who can't read human interactions properly

>>11761339
what the heck, I love mori now

>>11761339
Kiara is a shit person and KFP do damage control daily on /vt/ what else is new?

>>11761339
Mori and Kiara don't need to be attached to the hip. you guys sound like Chronoir schizos go superchat her about it if you're so mad

Jesus she really hates Kiara doesn't she

>>11761339
Holy kek, how will Kiara survive without the yuribait buff?

Both Mori and Kiara are shit people that would drop their friends for fame and money.

I don't like canteloupe
shes got too much testosterone and is probably a closet tranny

>>11761535
Nene

>>11761647
I mean who doesn't? Shitbird has zero tact

There are no cliques in Hololive BTW

>>11761535
Nene genuinely likes her, but Nene likes pretty much everyone.

summarize what she says. i'm not watching a Holo*N clip

>>11761647
I wouldn't say so. I think takamori was a premade ship that management wanted to push for interest and kiara ended up too deep into it, locking on to mori because she's a lonely needy sort of person. Also she's gay and mori is hot which probably didn't help after they met up.

>>11761747
Its not a clip retard

>>11761747
Basically "sometimes people will have people they vibe better with and I have my friends I get along better with even though Kiara is great and Kiara has her own friends she gets along with better"

>>11761699
there are tho
Koone pretty much exclusively interacts with her clique and is why she's such an autist when confronted with members she isn't familiar with. If you're a doog regular, you probably already know who I'm referring to off the top of your head easily.

>>11761820
>hur dur MORI HATES KIARA
why the fuck are people like that? Do they not have friends???

>>11761861
I was being sarcastic

>>11761535
Nene, Subaru, Marine. Tbh most of the mote sociable JPs like her to some degree.

>>11761699
in all groups of people above 7 or so members, cliques start forming.
Its a side effect of system effects and data efficiency.

>>11761535
Nene ,Watame, Polka,Subaru,Reine

>>11761339
>Not even a clip
So a nothingburger then?

>>11761655
Mori already did

>BE BEST FRIENDS DAMMIT

>>11761886
>Does /vt/ have friends
>prime SEANig hours
Unfortunately, SEAnig teens with decent English comprehension and unmonitored internet access are in fact not allowed to have real friends, as their insane SEAnig parents think its counterproductive to studing. Keep this in mind whenever you browse /vt/.
T. Anglo ESL teacher in SEA

>>11761339
Can somebody clip this and upload it on twitter?

>>11761940
Only 3K people were watching the stream.
She reclined.

>>11761339
Sounds like she’s trying to make us cope

>>11762024

>>11761931
There really isn't in Holo EN yet. I don't know that 11 people is enough to cause it. In a group that interacts every day like coworkers maybe, but because of the limited and intermittent nature of streaming and relative rarity of collabs and physical disconnect of 90% of members I don't see it being a major thing.

>>11762061
in a group of autists, there are n highly exclusive subgroups that dont interact well with the other parts of the group, where n is the number of group members.

>>11761501
Mori actually specifically talked about being prone to utility-based pump and dump relationships not long ago on stream. Obviously she added an "uhhhh, until I met the mythgirls teehee"

>>11762024
Pretty irrelevant since more people were talking about Mori's stream than Kronii's in the same thread despite her having over 12K views at the time. The fact that this happened two days ago and no one gave a shit until now proves that this "drama" is forced

>>11761940
dw i'll clip it just for you

>>11762257
Of course people are gonna talk more about a zatsudan compared to a chill MC maintenance stream, the comparison makes no sense. When Kronii had that stream with Fauna the threads were on fire.

>>11762008
>prime SEANig hours
>literally 1PM
kys

I dont even think they've grown apart, I just think their friendship isn't as entertaining to watch as others. They still need to make good content, it's just them chatting on discord isn't it.

>>11762313
>1pm
Oi SEAneet, you know schools are mostly still closed and most people are still working from home?

>>11761535
HoloTori, Nene, Watame, Marine, Polka, etc...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0CZe8sRYHM

>She's dressed up in diamond dust, A lover of decay, Coated lashes, soul of ashes, What more can I say?
Reference to Kiara and the way she dresses up in a fashionable way outside, how she plays up the yuribait (at the time), and has an alter ego as a Phoenix.
>Loving you, killing you, isn't it thrilling?, You've just said enough from those guts you've been spilling through, Crying and begging, a lovely sound, I'll tear out your soul, but you'll still stick around
Mori talking about Kiara opening up to her and wanting to become her friend. Kiara was in a very unstable state of mind and cried and made it very clear she needed her company to survive her stay in Japan, and that she didn't have any friends.
>What I found is a treasure indeed, A friend who can bend to my every need, I'll use and abuse you and never feel bad
Mori realizing she can do whatever she wants with Kiara because she's so dependant on her until she no longer needs of her. It's a one-sided relationship.
>The fact it can actually make death wanna die, and the one that you love, and then making you cry, and it's "just me", after all
Mori talking about the times she made Kiara sad and cry (Plenty during streams, who knows how many off stream), and how this is her roommate's true personality.
>I'll give you fire, 心にかWho?
Mori boasting that Kiara is just another who in her life.
>Hello, 餓狼 餓狼, 唸りかける, また意地悪な爪を立てて, 勝ってあげる, Haze you!
Mori describing herself as a wolf looking at her prize. Haze you can be about "hazing" AKA manipulating Kiara into degrading herself (crying while opening to her about her past life), OR is an homonym to "Hate you", that she's tired of Kiara.
>When the curtains finally close, and the show's really over, If you glance into my past, it's just nothing new, Lying, conniving, thriving on hate!
She's just pretty much saying it out loud now.

>>11762406
not anymore, Saigon has already opened up

>>11762304
The point is that people knew about what she was talking about the moment it happened. Now you have the usual drama kiddies trying to make a big deal out of it when most people didn't care

Given that all her relationships are going to be scrutinized by autistic schizo 陰キャ incel loners and rabid shippers, her not collabing with the bird is a greater sign of their friendship than not. I think it's safe to say they are having extremely dirty internet sex when they aren't streaming.

>>11762183
>Mori actually specifically talked about being prone to utility-based pump and dump relationships not long ago on stream
Link?

Personally I think she saw how well Kiara was getting along with Ame and got the wrong idea about her moving on and having "better friends"
>Sometimes you get along with other people better, especially in collabs...
>... JUST like Kiara! I think she is doing good with her collabs recently
But the reality is that Kiara doesn't really have any friends (besides Ame I guess) that she can connect and interact with because of her timezone, Mori has Gura, Irys, Bae... Kiara has none, but she doesn't know that.

>>11762548
Funny how you think they watch each other's streams.

>>11762484
holy shit this actually makes sense

She already said the 'she' in the first line is referring to the bully, not the bullied. Using third person self-reference is a thing in literature and poetry you know.

>>11762454
friends are different from people you had fun collabing with

>>11761339
Lmaoooooo chikens btfo

>>11762548
Oh man that sucks, if only there was a method of communication where you can leave messages and read them later. Something that leaves notifications.
Also >>11762586

>>11762491
Yeah, good luck with that.

>>11762024
>Zatsu overlaps with multiple big streamers playing buff games and doesn’t get as many views
>AHHHHH SHE’S RECLINING AHHHHHHHHH

>>11762613
This was for >>11762484

>>11762548
Funny how /vt/ knows all about the social life of these streamers outside of their streams better than the streamers themselves. The meme about /vt/sisters is getting more and more true everyday.

>>11762548
timezone isn't that big of a deal because Kiara stream in prime JP hours all the time

>>11762586
I don't, that's why I think Mori's comment about Kiara doing so well recently with collabs is a load of BS, she just saw clips of ametori and that's it.

>>11761861
To be fair she has added more to her group recently atleast let get closer. But if you think about it there's only a few that are all arounders Botan Senchou Subaru being some. The Kensetsus have kinda formed as their own cliques with friends of people inside of the Kensetsus being friends with the others for the most part.

>>11762613
Because she's going to confirm she was talking about a genmate at the height of takamori nostalgia right

>>11762638
I don't remember a Marine/Kiara collab. And Kiara literally has a HoloTori discord where they post pictures of their cats and talk about girl things.

>>11762807
The very first holotalk was with marine anonchama....

>>11761339
schizo tranny egg

>>11762765
Kiara herself didn't think it was about her. Mori herself said she used everything so the lyrics can be about any number of interpretations centering around a codependent relationship, including your schizo rrat. Good thing she's a great lyricist and caters even to you.

>>11761545
And now they'll swing too far in either direction because of the reasons you stated.

>>11762849
>Kiara herself didn't think it was about her
She did at the start and said she understands why part of the song seemed to be about her. Because there's strong hints all around that it is about her after all.

>>11762901
Poets are also melodramatic in general and can emphasize any aspect of their life for material. Just look at Sylvia Plath's Daddy poems vs her real father who was more or less an average dude.

>>11761339
Anyone got a timestamp? Shit doesn’t work on bum fuck mobile

>Can she be more of a bitch? Saying shit like this during a stream is straight up FUCKED

>>11762901
She heard “ash” and didn’t know the meaning of the song, so she wanted it to be about her for the first few lyrics. As soon as the meaning of the song became clearer she was was positive that it couldn’t be about her. Only complete brainwashed schizos actually believe that Mori wrote this was Kiara in mind. More likely it’s about her horrible friendships prior to Holo that’s she’s talked about recently.

>>11762484
This whole schzio analysis fall apart when you factor that Mori explicitly that this song isn't about Kiara and even did an entire fucking stream dedicated to talking about this song's meaning
How do you even come to this conclusion? do you just not watch either Mori or Kiara and only use them as tool for your dramafaging needs?

>>11763008
I think /vt/ is becoming worse than /pol/. /pol/ at least are schizos about things that have a tangible effect on the world. /vt/ has become the equivalent of celebrity mainstream gossip rags for people who aren't even that famous.

>>11763097
>This whole schzio analysis fall apart when you factor that Mori explicitly that this song isn't about Kiara
see >>11762765

>>11762519
Not that anon but I remember this, it's in the "End of a Life" lyric dive when she talks about the line about "no use making friends". Basically her friendships have tended towards being transactional as a way to fuel her dreams. Also that this is sort of "the way things are" in show biz.

>>11763097
Anon you know Mori can lie to you right ?

>>11762024
Wow she's getting higher numbers then Kiara on a Zatsudan

>>11763168
I’m going to trust Mori more than the dramafagging schizo retards on this board, anon

>>11761339
Takamori cucks on suicide mode

>>11763065
>She heard “ash” and didn’t know the meaning of the song, so she wanted it to be about her
She thought it was about her when she heard "dressed up in diamond dust, a lover of decay". She thought that until she realized it was a song about being used and disposed of. Of course she wasn't going to accept Mori didn't care about her IN THE SAME STREAM when she this also happened https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQg0XhTTUZo

>>11763128
Jesus, why are you people so mad at shitposting.
in /v/, they have console wars
in /sp/, they have Messi vs Ronaldo
in /int/, they have race bait threads
...
that's just 4chan culture

>>11762484
Especially when considering the next video is ‘End of a Life’.

>>11761339
It´s not that deep man, they´re still friends, and mori at the very least found people that connected better with her and can actually see in irl like Irys, kiara needs to do the same and she´ll be fine

>>11763255
you have to be a special kind of retard/newfag to think any of that is good or amusing, though

>>11763131
>Because she's going to confirm she was talking about a genmate at the height of takamori nostalgia right
What are you even trying to say here? comes off like ESL babble
>>11763168
>Anon you know Mori can lie to you right ?
What about and why?
dramafagging has rotted your brain so thoroughly so that you think Mori would when for shits and giggles when clarifying the meaning of her own song

>>11763252
Unfortunately no one outside of this board has clipped it, and it happened during a sc reading with just a few thousand deadbeats, so only the takamorifags that are /here/ are even aware this happened.

>>11763157
thats pretty cold and cruel moririn...

>>11763128
>Why are you talking about vtubers just CONSOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!!!!

>>11761339
last in p.e , dayum

>>11763255
All of those are of more significance and import and are generally more entertaining than a bunch of socially starved weebs psychoanalyzing the minute actions and words of girls like a flock of ravenous squawking seagulls. The emasculation and pettiness of these threads actually reflect bitchy schoolgirl hallway gossip which I bet most of the anons here have been subjected to some time in their lives. /vt/ was a mistake

>>11763374
you're literally on the same level as tabloid readers. YOU are the consoomer, bud.

>>11763319
>>hat you think Mori would when for shits and giggles when clarifying the meaning of her own song

wat?

>>11763128
/vt/ is worse than /pol/ everyone here is a snowflake who gets ass mad and starts discord raids when their favorite chuuba is insulted.

>>11762024
This was a fun stream, I had a great time with my Mori

>>11763424
Ok wow me with what your idea of stimulating discussion is.

>>11763430
>dramafagging has rotted your brain so thoroughly so that you think Mori would lie for shits and giggles when clarifying the meaning of her own song
FIFY

Oh, whoa, the autist who moved to Japan to chase a manlet rapper is bad at interpersonal relationships? Who would have believed it?

YA BOI is a real bitch, deadbeats.

>>11763419
dude, people just treat hololive as a drama show.

>>11763319
>What about and why?
Saying outright that this song about manipulating am emotionally needy fashionable woman "coated in ashes" who is in love of death may, for some reason, be about that genmate who checks all those marks.
And of course guilt tripping the fans for daring to make that connection

>>11763462
you seriously can't think of something better to do with your time than gossiping about women on the internet?

>>11763419
yeah, they should have nuked the threads on /jp/ and kept you all on reddit

>>11763462
The economics involved in the industry, the cultural influences of this specific style of streaming and what are its differences from the western sphere, what does vtubing entail for the ontological status of human beings, how does the tech work, organization of creative endeavours that surround the culture, even writing erotic fanfiction, are all better things to discuss than tabloid bullshit.

>>11761339
Not gonna go through that whole VOD. Timestamp?

>>11763538
what it isnt? shit always reminds me of jersey shore im glad we Takos get spared all this drama

>>11761339
Mori just being honest, what's wrong?

>>11763566
I dunno, can you? Obviously not

>>11763593
Its in the link you fucking idiot

>>11763616
that's genuinely sad

>>11763620
It doesn’t work for me retardchama, that’s why I’m asking.

>>11763596
Ina is too boring to gossip about.

>>11761339
>says she is a treasured friend but they have had the opportunity to collab with others and that despite the fact both have bounced off better with other people that doesn't mean they won't collab again
What is it about eggs that makes them this fucking retarded and drama-chasing? Do all legs live in rural Inbredville and there's nothing to do other sneak into farms to fuck another person's animals?

>>11763593
It's already timestamped anonchama.

>>11763634
Unfortunately for you I don't care what a random seanigger thinks

>>11763635
>t=7375
retardchama

>>11761467
>Kiara, who has notably ghosted Mori multiple times in the past couple of months
What the fuck are you talking about? chicken has been dying to talk with Mori for over half a year but Mori rarely reaches out.

>>11763596
Ina bought a bunch of her boring as friends for gen 2

>>11763588
no one gives a shit about any of that

>>11761535
She has Nenechi but Nenechi likes to collect menhera friends
>Kiara
>Towa
>Matsuri
>Polka

>>11763696
Mori said she's tried to contact Kiara multiple times but never got a response so someone is lying

>>11763519
This. He tried to warn you, and you didn't listen.

>>11761535
Close friend no, her room8 only really trusts her BFF and cats.
"friend" Watame, Nene Ame, Ina. Subaru is friendly but there's no way to know how often they talk.

>>11763553
>Saying outright that this song about manipulating am emotionally needy fashionable woman "coated in ashes" who is in love of death may, for some reason, be about that genmate who checks all those marks.
Bro you can literally just watch the stream to learn the meaning, you don't have to draw your schizo conclusion and dismission everyone who says otherwise (including the person who wrote the fucking song lmao) as lying
>And of course guilt tripping the fans for daring to make that connection
More like telling the deluded /u/schizos that song had absolutely nothing to do with Kiara

what is this, the start of the gossip arc?

>>11763706
Is Nenechi a saviorfag?

It's probably just that Nene is a genuinely pure hearted person. Her soul is as white as snow without a single blemish and that attracts the broken and corrupted to her since she represents what they desperately want but can never have.

On stream for fucking real? Is she a fucking autist?

damn cant believe mori wrote OWTH to diss kiara for tweeting too much. fucked up, you ask me

>>11763745
>Talking about what Mori said on stream verbatim
>"Gossip"
Retardchama...

>>11763665
If you care so much about nationality why aren't you living up to the best models of Western culture and detaching yourself from tabloid bullshit that is corrupting your brain? Benjamin Franklin would be disgusted.

Does Kiara have any friends in Hololive?
And, no, you can't say Ame.
And you can't say Ina.
And you can't say Nene.
And you can't say Watame.
And you can't say Subaru.
And you can't say Reine.
And you can't say Matsuri.

>>11761339
Mori’s just being honest. They both have people they like and get along with more than eachother. We’ve known this for months. They don’t need to be eachother’s #1 to be friends, you retards.

>>11763801
...benjamin franklin would love tabloid bullshit. he got himself appointed attache to france so he could fuck parisian prostitutes and hang out with the hellfire club.

>>11763745

>>11763810
A-chan close enough to get dinner
Jenma close enough to share an Apartment and Computer

>>11763801
Because the west is fucking doomed and the best thing you can do is continue to erode it so it collapses and we can reset to Catholic Monarchy

>>11763813
This thread kinda exposes people who don't have different circles of friends. Which is natural for 4chan.

>>11763861
You can't say those either.
She doesn't have any friends.

>>11763813
>They don’t need to be eachother’s #1 to be friends, you retards.
Globalfags spent months and months arguing they ARE best friends so it's only fair they get some shit thrown back at them for being naive faggots

>>11763878
>She doesn't have any friends.
That's what she tells herself.

I don't feel bad for Kiara or Calli. They or management brought this upon themselves. For fuck sake, Kiara's model is designed to have a skull in the pupils. Forced yuri garbage was never going to last and the fact they played into it for so long is ridiculous.

>>11763936
No way an Ayame poster calling others ridiculous ? Pffft

>>11763936
>Kiara's model is designed to have a skull in the pupils.
Anon... that just looks like a skull and is obviously non-intentional.

>>11763869
This is likely the reason.
People don't know that you can have multiple best friends in a circle. People who actually have friends know this fact.

>>11763894
god I fucking hate Global, it has turned into a reddit hugbox now and you can't criticize the girls in any way

>>11763984
You're a fag who thinks someone can have more than one oshi aren't you

>>11763995
>hlgg
>hugbox
also bitching about threads is pathetic, bro

>>11763995
This. Holy shit this. I remember during debut and the weeks after everyone here insisted they were perfect best friends and nothing could go wrong, soulmates even. Everyone loved it. How's it feel to get utterly shit on now?

>>11763984
>well we're still great friends, I THINK
anon, you don't say this about your best friend

>>11764055
No, but oshi and "best friend" isn't the same thing.

>>11763813
>>11763869
The worst part is when they eventual collab again the same retards pushing "THEY HATE EACH OTHER" angle will cope by some dumb shit like "uhhh will obviously management forced them to do this!"
>>11763894
>>11763995
>Globalfags spent months and months arguing they ARE best friends
Nobody says this you gossiping whore, you retards love to treat shit like it's binary between "THEY HATE EACH" and "THEY'RE BEST FRIENDS" even Mori herself just straight up said they're still close
Retarded shitpost like these are why like you get bullied out /hlgg/ in the first place

>>11764082
that's right, sister, big win for us yassssssss

>>11764091
another sign that you don't have friends; because best friends do have falling outs.

>>11764105
learn English, Seanigger

>>11763936
except it's not you clipnigger

>>11764105
>Mori herself just straight up said they're still close
By rarely talking and ghosting each other, that's how close they are.

>>11763702
You are not everyone

>>11764142
only us /vt/sisters can understand the TRUE meaning behind her words

>>11764100
You can only have one best friend by definition since people are not fungible.

>>11763995
do you realize what thread you're in

If kiara really wants close friendship in hololive, she should consider moving back to nipland, there's no way online friendship is comparable to friends where you can hang out for real.

>>11764142
Oh shit my bad, I forgot anonymous schizo knows more about Mori and Kiara's relationship more than either Mori or Kiara do

>>11764214
fucking yagoo should just hire her an EU, friend problem solved

>>11764105
>Retarded shitpost like these are why like you get bullied out /hlgg/ in the first place
Why do globalfags pretend their reddit containment thread is somewhere people would actually want to go? Is it a coping mechanism for getting constantly BTFO everywhere else?

>>11764180
Except it's not: People use that term differently in actual English.

You can have a Best Friend for each specific circle of friends.

Also; falling out with someone is a thing. IF you haven't experienced it, then you're not human.

>>11764301
why are you letting a thread live rent free in your head?

>>11764142
I love how /vt/ dramafags manage to insist that whatever appears on screen are both the unequivocal truth and an outright facade depending on which one suits their rrat.

>>11764069
It is a hugbox. Most newfags don't realize it but hlgg was split off from the Hololive thread because people knew EN would attract a shitton of normies and redditfags. It is and always has been a containment thread, but unfortunately more and more redditors come here and think that global is what the board is supposed to be like everywhere.

>>11764301
Why do dramafags who are only interested in this hobby for the sake of shit stirring LOVE to compare getting a called a faggot for being a shitposter to being on reddit? It's a mental illness or possibly undiagnosed schizophrenia?

>>11764363
Why are you shitting up the entire board by being a reddit nigger outside your designated cancer thread?

>>11764378
>Most newfags don't realize it but hlgg was split off from the Hololive thread because people knew EN would attract a shitton of normies and redditfags
>t. /vt/ newfag

>>11762484
ME ME ME ME ME ME

>>11764403
why are you so mad about this?

>>11764432
/vt/ didn't even exist when the split was done dumbass

>>11764378
>Anything that is positive towards any vtuber

Clearly a reddit hugbox

>Anything that is negative towards any vtuber

Valid criticism and not schizo rrats at all

Did anybody actually watch the timestamp?

>>11761466
This is the correct answer. Mori is absolutely dogshit in this regard.
She could be telling you the best news and make it sound like you got cancer.

>>11764496
Sounds like /vt/. Are you sure mori isn't actually /here/?

>>11764264
Retard-sama read between the lines

>>11764469
>/vt/ didn't even exist when the split was done dumbass
I know newfagchama, you probably just learned that few days ago considered LARPing as an oldfag and had to make up a total bullshit reason why the split happened in the first place

>>11764378
you're the one unironically looking for a hugbox where you can call write low-effort shitposts and get people to upvote you with "based"s. maybe >>>/jp/ might be more your thing

>>11764495
It's called nitpicking. /sp/ statspeople call it that. When you purposely clip something without any context and replace it with your own.

5$ tells me that if you expand on the clip, it'll give more context.

Also:
>Falling out doesn't happen to best friends.

>>11764543
Me reading between the lines for this post says you are a lonely virgin who has likely never held a person's hand in your life and you were made fun of by a pink haired girl which is why you channel such animosity towards the world

>>11764585
now this is a rrat I can get behind

>>11764558
>had to make up a total bullshit reason why the split happened in the first place
It happened because everyone knew EN was going to attract a bunch of faggot redditors who have no appreciation for Japanese culture and lo and behold...

>>11764543
>believe in my schizo delusions

>>11764611
>gets baited into revealing he's from /jp/ /hlg/
KEK. Credibility down to negative.

>>11764496
yeah all i got out of that clip is theyre stuck playing phone tag (discord tag?) due to a combination of time zones, commitments, and weird hours.

Glad they're both focusing on other things. Takamori was one of the worst parts of HoloEN, with Kiara too immature to realize leaning too hard on the fake relationship was stopping her from developing actual chemistry with Mori and gave the impression she was unironically into the relationship (because she probably was), and Mori too immature to either embrace the kayfabe or just shut it down earlier because it was making her uncomfortable.

I like how you idiots tell me to take what Mori said about her lyrics at face value, but then when I point how Mori (and Kiara) said multiple times that they rarely talk to each other suddenly I shouldn't take what they say at face value?

Funny that people post threads about Matsuri or Ayame for example, no one gives a shit. But you post a thread about Kiara, and especially about Takamori, everyone loses their minds.

>>11764543
Retard, let me show you some real reading between the lines

SO YESTERDAY WE CONFIRMED THAT EVERYONE IS HERE

THEY PROBABLY SEE OUR POSTS THAT BOTH OF THEM NEEDS TO MOVE TOGETHER AND DECIDED TO ACTUALLY DO IT.
WHY? BECAUSE IT KILLS TWO BIRDS IN ONE STONE, AME GETS HER SHITTY INTERNET FIXED AND GURA WILL NOT BE LONELY ANYMORE.

I HAVE ACTUAL PROOFS FOR THIS
>GURA TAKING TOO MUCH TIME ON UPDATING HER SCHEDULE
WHY? BECAUSE SHE NEEDS THE MOST TIME TO PLAN HER SCHEDULES AND SHE ALSO NEEDS TIME TO PREPARE TO MOVE SINCE SHE IS THE ONE WHO IS MOVING TO AME'S STATE
>INA TALKING ABOUT GURA AND AME'S SLEEPOVER
WHY WOULD A GURAME SLEEPOVER COMES TO FIRST TO INA'S MIND WHEN TALKING ABOUT SLEEPING HABITS? ITS BECAUSE BOTH OF THEM ASKED INA TO MOVE WITH THEM BUT INA REFUSED. SHE REMEMBERED THAT PROPOSAL DURING THE COLLAB AND IS NOW FORESHADOWING IT.
>GURA CANCELLING HER TARANTULAS AND AME CANCELLING HER FISHIES
IT'S BECAUSE THEY ARE MOVING TOGETHER AND YOU FAGS ARE TOO DENSE TOO NOTICE IT
>AME CHANGING HER BANNER AT THE SAME DAY SHE SAID SHE NEEDS SOMETHING TO DO WITH HER BANK
WHY WOULD SHE DO THAT? SHE CHANGED HER BANNER ON TO SOMETHING THAT AS IF SHE AND GURA ARE LIVING IN THE SAME HOUSE WHY? BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT ALWAYS HER PLAN IS, SHE WANTS TO LIVE WITH GURA SO BAD THAT SHE IS ALREADY PROJECTING IT ON HER TWITTER BANNER. IT IS NOT SOME CORPORATE SHILLING LIKE TAKAMORI, SHE IS JUST GENUINELY IN LOVE WITH GURA AND JUST OVERLY EXCITED TO MOVE IN WITH HER.

>SHE TOOK A PLANE ON HER WAY TO LOOK FOR A NEW OFFICE WHY?
AS I FUCKING TOLD YOU FUCKS THEY ARE GONNA LIVE TOGETHER, YOU DONT TAKE A PLANE WHEN MOVING TO ANOTHER NEARBY STATE, BUT WOULD SHE TAKE ONE HUH? IT'S BECAUSE THEY ARE GONNA LIVE TOGETHER.
>WE SEE AN EVIDENCE THAT HINTS ON THIS ONE ON THE LATEST GURA'S STREAM.
GURA IS TOO EMBARASSED ON THE THOUGHT OF MARRYING AME, WHY BECAUSE SHE LOVES HER UNIRONICALLY AND THE THOUGHT OF THAT MADE HER TOO FLUSTERED THAT SHE OPT TO CHOOSE MORI INSTEAD OF AME.
>GURA SAID SHE IS GOING TO BE VERY BUSY NEXT WEEK AND AT THE SAME FUCKING TIME AS AME'S MOVING TIME
MORE EVIDENCE THAT THEY ARE MOVING TOGETHER COME ON ANONS YOU'RE NOT SOME BLIND FUCKS AREN'T YOU?
>AME SAID ""I'M SAVING MYSELF"""" AND GURA SAID SHE IS HUNGRY ALL THE TIME AND CONSTANTLY TALKING ABOUT EATING
GUESS FUCKING WHAT ONCE THEY MOVED ON AND LIVE TOGETHER THEY ARE GONNA FUCKING HAVE ROUGHEST CLAM EATING THAT THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE IN THEIR FUCKING LIVES. GURA IS SO FUCKING HUNGRY ON THE THOUGHT ON EATING AME THAT SHE CAN'T STOP THINKING ABOUT IT.
>GURA HAD MENTIONED LAST NIGHT HER BED CLUTTERED AND IT WOULD BE A WHILE BEFORE SHE COULD ACTUALLY GET SLEEP.
THIS IS TYPICALLY THE CASE WHEN PEOPLE ARE PACKING FOR A TRIP. SHE ALSO HAS MENTIONED BIG PLANS THIS WEEKEND AND TO EXPECT A COLLAB COMING UP. SHE ALSO MENTIONS WATCHING HOLO STREAMERS THIS WEEKEND. SHE ALSO INCLUDED A 'TIMES SUBJECT TO CHANGE' ON HER SCHEDULE, IN CASE THERE ARE ANY TECHNICAL ISSUES. THUS, GURA IS GOING TO MEET UP WITH AME AND MAYBE HELP HER MOVE. THIS IS THE ONLY LOGICAL CONCLUSION.
>GURA WAS ASKE IF SHE IS MOVING? AND SAID """"NO NO MAYBE"""""
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDHmQP7kmvE&t=1016s IF THIS IS NOT AN ACTUAL FUCKING PROOOF THEN I DON'T FUCKING KNOW WHAT IS.
>BUT OHH NYOO SHE IS JUST RECORDING STUFF
FOR FUCKS SAKE SSHE IS NOT LABELING HER SHIT AND PUTTING HER SHIT ON BOXES FOR NOTHINGG AND SPECIALLY FOR RECORDING. SHE IS MOVING WITH AMELIA H. WATSON AND THEY WILL GET THEIR LONG AWAITED IRL SEEEEEEX WHEN THAT FUCKING HAPPENS
>WHAT DID AME MEAN BY THIS?
>Last week
>Gura 3 duets
>Everyone else (-Mori): 2
>Today
>Gura 3 duets
>Everyone else: 1 or 2
SHE IS DOING HER DUET REPS WITH GURA BECAUSE THEY BOTH WILL DO AN OFF-COLLAB DUET KARAOKE STREAM ONCE THEY MOVED IN TOGETHER ANNND AFTER THAT THEY ARE BOTH EXHAUSTED FROM SINGING THEY WILL BOTH STARE AT EACH OTHERS EYES AND JUST AUTOMATICALLY FUCK EACH OTHER LIKE THERE IS NO TOMMOROW, IT'S IN THEIR NATURAL INSTINCTS IT CAN'T BE FUCKING HELPED
>WHY IS GURA HAVING SUGAR SHAKES WHY IS SHE OUT OF A SUDDEN NERVOUS? WANNA KNOW WHY?
SHE MET UP WITH AMELIA AND SHE IS TOO NERVOUS WHEN SHE MET UP WITH HER. ISN'T IT OBVIOUS? THIS STREAM SHE HAS THIS WEIRD GLOW TODAY
>GURA MENTIONED MOVING SHIT INSIDE HER HOUSE
WHEN MOVING STUFF INSIDE YOUR HOUSE IT MEANS YOU'RE CLEANING UP FOR A VISITOR, SOMEONE IMPORTANT, SOMEONE SPECIAL THAT YOU DON'T WANT TO EMBARASS YOURSELF TO THAT SPECIAL PERSON BECAUSE YOU CLEARLY HOLD THEM DEAR IN YOUR HEART. HOLY SHIT HOLY FUCKC
>I'M DECORATING GURA'S ROOM
FUCK YOU THAT SHIT IS STILL REAL THEY ARE FUCKING NEIGHBORSSS, GURA MENTIONED SHE PACKED ALL OF HER SHIT IN TO A BOX LIFTED UP HER SHITTY TABLE, AME VISITED HER AND THEY ARE NOW A FUCK NEIGHBORS WITH EXTRA BENEFITS. THEY ARE GONNA STAND IN FRONT OF EACH OTHER'S PORCH AND THEY ARE GONNA LOCK EACH OTHER'S EYES. THEY ARE GONNA SILENTLY KISS AND GENTLY TOOK OFF TO BED AND FINALLY HAVE SEX SSEEXXXX SEXX YOU HEARD ME?

>>11764829
tl;dr

>>11764536
I thought she was.

What's so bad about the clip? Holy shit you guys are drama frogs.

I want to fuck mori in a straight way

Im happy mori found irys and finally has a real friend in hololive.

>>11764473
that's not what I said. Read the original post
>you can't criticize the girls in any way
>>11764809
anon, holos are all best friends with each other and that's a fact

>>11764496
>Mori is absolutely dogshit in this regard
To be fair to Mori here, you would have to be either intentionally dishonestly or a schizo to interpret her saying:
>Me and Kiara are still good friends but we've been collabing with other people lately because neither one of have us have any good ideas for a collab and don't want to force one for the sake of appearances
To
>ZOMG SISTERS! THEY HATE EACH! MORI IS SUCH BITCH XDDD
Like /vt/ schzios have been so absolutely starved for drama lately that even if she worded that perfectly, someone would STILL twist her words and that statement into a negative

>>11764892
idiots who think "Best friends" should unironically be always happy.

That's the thing with Best Friends though. They know things that regular friends don't know, so when they have a falling out; They get really upset at each other; but in the end of the day, they still make-up.

>>11764829
Most entertaining delusion I've read all week.

>>11764929
Until irys isnt useful to her anymore, then she'll get dumped like all the rest

>>11764829
and they say dramafags are schizos

>>11764809
The reality is in fact somewhere in the middle, tripfag.

The folks telling you there's nothing going on, take everything at face value are wrong. Opie and Anthony for instance in radio hated each other for years, and you'd never know it listening back to their radio show.... and then the blowout happened and everyone knows it now.

The other folks telling you THEY HATE EACH OTHER are in no position to have any confirmation of that theory, and in fact could be retardedly wrong.

Quit being fucking teenage girls and giving a shit and just enjoy your oshi.

>>11764105
>anon, holos are all best friends with each other and that's a fact
Refer to the 2nd half of this post >>11764105 then kill yourself

>>11764964
>anon, holos are all best friends with each other and that's a fact
Refer to the 2nd half this post >>11764105
Then kill yourself.

>>11764496
wow maybe she really does browse /vt/

>watch actual VOD.
>this isn't even best friends having a falling out
WTF is this thread?

what happened between kiara and her?

>>11765120
Do you expect anyone here to be mentally stable?

>>11765120
actual people making drama out of e-celebs

>>11764829
Based schizo reading

>>11765113
refer to >>11764142 and neck yourself

>>11765143
Mori used her until Kiara wasnt useful anymore and dropped her like a spent lighter

>>11765177
>mori used her
>not the other way around

>>11765177
>kiara useful to mori
what?

>>11765172
refer to >>11764264 and let me cum in your pussy cause there's no way a man spends this much time gossiping

>>11764977
i dont know about "best friends." they were clearly two people who met when shit was real fucked up and strange, and friendship was thin on the ground. they got saddled with a corporate mandated ship. it was real awkward and im kind of glad they both agree its dead, and i hope it lets them both be chill with each other. no shit theyve grown apart - ive never tried maintaining a close friendship in a situation where i have to calculate the difference from GMT, have you? i have a friend in new york i can barely keep up with because we have a shared hour window every day to catch up.

>>11765177
How has mori ever benefitted anything from kiara? Kiara never helped her with anything that would've boosted her career

>>11765177
kiara isn't worth anything anon, there's a reason antis call her the leech of myth

>>11765113
kek about 5 months ago people still said that Kiara and Mori were best friends

>>11765231
>corporate mandated ship.
kys schizo

>>11765227
refer to >>11764809 and take meds from the rectum because swallowing clearly isnt working

>>11765231
>they were clearly two people who met when shit was real fucked up and strange, and friendship was thin on the ground. they got saddled with a corporate mandated ship
God I you threadreaders would watch just a single fucking stream instead of parroting the retarded shit you read on this board

>>11765257
>people
only the shipfag/takamorifag, everyone else can tell they weren't the same anymore after Kiara went back home.

>>11765287
https://youtube.com/watch?v=cWmzRAcB3GA

>>11765301
refer to >>11765287 because that post is absolutely incoherent

>>11765287
youre right it's just a fake ship

>>11765374
All ships are fake retard. Same sex love is not natural

>>11765257
>Kiara and Mori were best friends
Both Kiara and Mori have said this
Again, you retards treat relationships like they're a binary

>>11765353
kys ESLnigger. its in plain english that takamori always talk about how they don't talk to each other for weeks but somehow you still think they are close. they are coworkers at best.

>>11764829
Damn big if true

Mori is unironically a fucking bitch for this. Kiara should throw that "friendship" bracelet in the trash

>>11765431
Which leads me to concluding that these people have no friends. Which is why they're /here/. People with friends have rough patches in their relationships. People who can't understand that friendships are and will be tested are unironically friendless people.

>>11763157
Oh, so she said she basically became friends only for what they could do for her

>Anti threads pop up during SEA hours...again
It's just comical at this point.

>>11764975
>Me and Kiara are still good friends but we've been collabing with other people lately because neither one of have us have any good ideas for a collab and don't want to force one for the sake of appearances
I’m not even one of the schizos dramafagging about this but that is not what Mori said. Not even slightly. She said her and Kiara are good friends, but they have better friends. It’s not a big deal and schizos need to take just as many meds for coping and downplaying it as they do for seething and overstating it.

>>11765177
REMINDER THAT KFP TRANNIES EQUATE:
>Callii borrowing Kiara a mic when her own got fucked, which let her do her work in the first place
>intentionally referencing her in her most popular song (25M+ views atm)
>working on MVs and covers with Kiara in the most busy period of her life, when she was working herself sick by juggling full time job, previously arranged contracts and streaming
>inviting her out for dates, spending upwards of 5k USD for a cute sendoff trip, then giving up upwards of 20k USD in profits by hosting every bigger collab stream on Kiara's channel as she was leaving
>going out of her way to surprise her with a cute handmade gift
>going head to head with management so Kiara could collab with the Vshojo that said nice things about her, instead just asking for Ironmouse collab specifically, the only one she was interested in

with

>Kiara sometimes taking pity on Mori and chatting with her
>Kiara being ready to drop her like a hot potato whenever someone showed her more attention at the time (her 'crush' with Veibae, Pomu and currently Ame)

>>11765449
refer to >>11764264 and and go make actual friends because it's clear you don't have any

>>11765494
t.deadbeat

>>11765530
>posts ayame

your opinion is invalid

>>11765177
Kiara was never useful to Mori, anon, don’t lie to yourself. They just grew apart when Kiara moved away because their friendship is the sort that fades without frequent irl interaction.

>>11763995
T. Guramefag
Global was and is Gurame general, always shitting on Takamori and saying how Gurame was more believable but Oh surprise! Ever since council arrived Gura just became like Mori when it comes to interact with Ame and now both ships are dead.
Is just funny this happened the moment Council debuted, not even Irys alone could had done this.

>>11765548
this amount of cope holy shit. they don't talk to each other from what both have said, that's as close as they are. That's it.

>>11765591
you unironically don't know what a friendship is about. I could laugh at you, but at this time, I can only pity you.

>>11765519
Man, do you get
>but they have better friends
from
>You just end up getting along with different people better just in general I guess
I feel like I'm the people ITT who's bothered to watch the timestamp

>>11765580
Gura had already dropped Ame for Mori long before Council debuted. Gurame has been dead for months but shippers still hang around.

>>11765694
Bro this was 2 days ago..
https://streamable.com/d7fivf
And she didn't sing anything with Mori

>>11765530
and another reminder, during all that, the most Kiara usually had to offer in return were snide remarks, talking about stuff that was specifically embarrassing/traumatizing to Calli (like her screaming in her sleep), complaining about the covers not coming out on time and actually complimenting Calli's output the least of all Myth

>Ina called herself her biggest fan, reacted to the trailer of EP2 on her own during a members stream, remarks on Calli's music regularly
>Ame called her an amazing thing that's just blooming currently, something not really seen in the vtuber scene yet
>Gura was the fist one to compliment and encourage her singing more, constantly remarks how talented and hard-working Calli is

meanwhile Kiara only reacted to the second EP due to her chat (knowing that's like 50% of her top paypigs are deadbeats), usually rarely mentions Mori's music at all, NEVER directly complimented her singing (only rapping)
by this point fucking Suisei spoke about Mori more positively than Kiara

>>11765658
Faggot, I watched it all live. Saying you get along better with one friend or group of friends then another is quite literally saying that you are better friends with them. Are you autistic?

>>11765712
and now she freudian slipped about touching Kronii's boobs.

Gura is just horny like that.

>>11765591
Check this out schziochama, it's actually possible to still be friends (even close friends!) with a person even though you don't talk to them everyday!

God, you all act like teenage girls in highschool. Did none of you actually watch the stream? Because none of what you're saying matches up with what was actually said.

>>11765730
Has Kiara acknowledged or retweeted Mori and Guras King cover yet

>>11765787
why is watamate being the reasonable one here

>>11765177
Yep, Mori wanted to drop Takamori once she realized it wasn't generating enough viewership or interest. At the end of the day, money is the only thing this loathsome cunt is motivated by.

>>11765530
>>11765730
both of the need meds ....lots

>>11765789
lole

>>11765712
Are you pretending that she hasn’t sang with Mori in the past or do you just have short term memory?

>>11765817
please tell me, what is wrong about those posts
and how do fags like >>11765815
this cope with the fact that Kiara is somehow always the center of drama, always alone and always the least popular
I'm sure it's never her, world just has it out for her

>>11765842
Gura already moved on, all her streams recently are either talking abour Amelia or her new cumpet, Fauna, or harassing Kronii.
Sadly she never mentions Mori anymore

>>11765888
you guys make it too easy

>>11765730
When was the last time Kiara actually retweeted or otherwise showed support for Mori’s music or other big projects? Mori’s always shilling the other girl’s endeavors in her own streams but it seems like Kiara never does the same in return

>>11765815
Stop shitposting, deadbeat. You have to prepare for the Fall Guys stream.

>>11765887
>the fact that Kiara is somehow always the center of drama, always alone and always the least popular
These are the hard facts. It is not without reason that Kiara is always the lowest in numbers regarding Myth.

>>11765815
Well yes , that's what bully is about anonchama

Nijisan is always welcoming new viewers

>>11765888
She mentioned her literally today, and has talked about her very frequently the last few weeks because they’ve been collabing so much. Do you even watch streams?

>>11765888
...anon, She just mentioned Mori on the DBD stream, are you an idiot?
They're also going to do a watch-a-long this sunday with Ina.

If anything, Kronii shutting her out would make her go for Mori more since she doesn't have the same reaction.

>>11765763
>even though you don't talk to them everyday!
I never said or expect them to talk everyday, but deadbeats complain Kiara ghosts Mori and KFP (and Kiara) complain Mori ghosts Kiara, and then they comment how they don't speak with each other frequently, even for weeks. That's not shit "close" friends do.

>>11765938
it's not even limited to Holo
Mori has tons of past connections she clearly keeps a positive contact with, friends she talks about supporting her or uplifiting her in hard spots, people like Milky who are always down to hang
who does Kiara have? why is she always having menhera breakdowns about being a third wheel

it certainly isn't on her
Matsuri is also a good girl with 0 issues, it's all the other people that are wrong
same logic

>>11765712
>synched laughter
Cute

>>11765749
>Saying you get along better with one friend or group of friends then another is quite literally saying that you are better friends
Wut? lmao
Saying "I get along better with other people now" and "These people are better friends" are not even remotely the same thing, huh?
Mori says the former while your other post implies the latter, in any case it's Mori just saying she feels more comfortable with other people nowadays instead of solely just Kiara

>>11765989
you don't want the schizos from hololive

>>11766006
consider that they're saying different things
Kiara has said: we don't talk too much lately
Mori has said: I asked her for an instrumental but she never responded, I guess she was busy

only one of those behaviors is ghosting, seeing as Kiara has no particular issue to live responding to others DMing her

>>11766085
fuck mori for ghosting her

>>11766006
>but deadbeats complain Kiara ghosts Mori and KFP (and Kiara) complain Mori ghosts Kiara, and then they comment how they don't speak with each other frequently, even for weeks.
>but deadbeats complain Kiara ghosts Mori and KFP
>deadbeats and KFP
Crazy but it's actually possible people who say that aren't deadbeats or KFP at all and are just flaseflaggers!

>>11766053
“We’re still good friends, it’s just sometimes in life you end up getting along better with different people.” She says she gets along better with different people. Work on your comprehension skills.

I think kiara is kinda low key jealous at how mori outgrew the ship and managed to stand out on her own. Like the majority of the takamorifags are part of kiara's fanbase.

>>11766113
>fuck mori
That's the plan.

>>11765815
mori realized quickly that kiara has no worth and dropped it

>>11765335
that got confirmed false in a stream you didn't watch clipnigger

>>11766182
KFP here, Kiara has talked many times throughout these months how she doesn't talk with Mori often and how she's always "busy".

>>11766113
this also shows the difference between Mori and Kiara's fans, which is honestly the same as the difference between the two when they were asked about their former bullies
Mori shown the ability to move on, said she hopes they're doing fine and sorted themselves out and that she simply doesn't think much about them
Kiara was like 'I HOPE THEY SEETHE NOW THAT I'M RICH AND SUCCESSFUL'

one is ready to mature as a person, let things go and go onwards to build positive things
the other only base their life on clinging to old grudges and the need to show other up

this is why KFP split constantly shits on Mori/deadbeats even when they're not even interacting while deadbeats are just chilling and enjoying Mori making new connections

>>11765787
Hey, at least they are doing it here and not on twitter where the girls may see it.

>>11766183
>She says she gets along better with different people.
>Work on your comprehension skills.
Huh? you're literally agreeing with me here lmao, in your post >>11765519 you say
>but they have better friends
You realize those two statements have wildly different implications right?

>>11765712
Guramefags try to cling on every little thing, really pathetic lmao

>>11766267
low effort bait af man

>>11766280
>>
one is ready to mature as a person, let things go and go onwards to build positive things
the other only base their life on clinging to old grudges and the need to show other up

You dont have to be that mean to mori

>>11766318
I'm not going to hunt it down for you but somehow it got around to either Kiara or Huke saying it was a coincidence.

>>11761339
I was thinking to myself there hasn't been any drama with kiara or mori for a long time and here it is both are involved in it

>>11766350
oh, I'm not, I'm impressed by the strides she's made compared to someone ready to wallow in self-pity and drama like Kiara

>>11766280
>Mori shown the ability to move on, said she hopes they're doing fine and sorted themselves out and that she simply doesn't think much about them
She’s lying to keep up or persona

>>11761339
>be mori
>be straight
>mentally ill /u/fags pair you up with a mentally ill fake bisexual
>"why does she hate this pairing"

It is a mystery.

>>11766396
>>self pity

I know most Mori songs are exactly that

>>11766418
sure, which is why her private channels are filled with seethe about how she's the last pick at PE class or how her friends keep fucking her over
...oh wait

>>11766393
You mean "drama" that anons are trying to force?

>>11766418
Except you know you're lying because FT, Milky and VogeyBoxx exist.

>>11766418
This kills the kfp
https://streamable.com/eotgps

>>11766280
I concede that Kiara's life has revolved around trying to prove her worth.

>>11766462
>I know most Mori songs are exactly that
>t. has never listened to sing one of her songs

>>11766462
https://streamable.com/eotgps

>>11761418
The sad part is that the people she's addressing will call it 'tsundere' and not accept that it was always fake.

>>11766471
Yes, it's entertaining when schizos here get mad

>>11766475
and people like rachie, Juby, AmeLee and a whole slew of other contacts that Mori keeps a cordial relation with
meanwhile Kiara has like 2 friends who she constantly seethes over

>>11766418
Why would she?

>>11766510
Cursed night,bully,end of a life and several of her roommate songs ....

Suuure i am the one that never listened to her music....

>>11766541
>amalee
She was never friends with amalee, where did you get that from?

All i need is more popcorn while reading through this thread

>>11764378
>think that global is what the board is supposed to be like everywhere
as opposed to what? Constant timelooping, drama and bait threads? If it werent for the no doxxing rule, this place would just be kiwifarms with the shitflinging turned up to 11 and politics inserted into evety other thread.

>>11766605
>Cursed night,bully,end of a life
literally none of these about self-pity
>several of her roommate songs
doxxfagchama....

>>11766622
check Mori's twitter, they are buds ever since Ama got herself an avatar

>>11766520
>>11766481
>Kiara melts down under pressure
Wow arent you fucking columbus

>>11761535
Everyone forgot Flare. But I don't know if Flare and Kiara are friends or if Kiara is just the only EN that Flare has talked to directly.

>>11766605
Nta but she used those songs to vent. She doesn't wallow in self pity on stream.
She's only ever broken down once on stream and quickly got over it in less than a minute

>>11766304
>no u
It’s crazy how KFP are always getting BTFO’d

>>11763761
>pure as snow
>talks about her underwear color with ballz the rat

>Kiara antis being autistic
>Deadbeats doing their blatant "Mori is a bad person" routine
>General shitposters just throwing shit at the wall
>Armchair psychologist left and right
This thread is a riot

>>11766664
That doesn't mean anything. They've never even interacted. Amalee was just leeching on other vtubers before her debut.

>>11766605
If you actually contrast eoal to Soundless (i.e. The song that eoal is most likely a sequel to), you'd know that eoal is not about self-pity. It's the acceptance of the gifts she has been given.

Soundless depicts her as someone who can never fly

Eoal is saying her that she's ready to, and leaves it up to her faith.

If anything, she has a better outlook in life.

>>11761535
she mentioned going to cafes irl with Irys multiple times, does it count

>>11762491
>saigon

You mean Ho Chi Minh City.

>>11763588
>what does vtubing entail for the ontological status of human beings
As much as I hate dramaniggers I can't think of a more pretentious and unbareable question.

>>11766729
>Deadbeats doing their blatant "Mori is a bad person" routine
Why are deadbeats like that? Wouldn't that just make their oshi sad?

>>11766783
if you don't know about t.deadbeat and unironically treat it seriously, then you definitely are new.

>>11762807
Kiara and Marine used to hang out IRL back when Kiara was in Japan.

>>11761339
i mean Mori is definitely a bitch and she has struck me as a bully since the first ever myth collab on day 1, but this clip is pretty tame compared to how u presented it.

You all have serious mental and emotional problems, you should see a therapist.

>>11766838
t. deadbeat

>>11766541
>rachie
Cool
> Juby
Not ever relevant anymore
>AmeLee
Bitch and she’s not friends with mori

>>11766783
Purgebeats are weird.

>>11766694
kek meant >>11766350

>>11766809
I know about t.deadbeat. it's just getting annoying. Literally why?

>>11766729
It is condensed /vt/sisters energy. A shining example of what this board really is.

>>11766744
>someone who can never fly

Definetly not self pity...

>>11766729
>Armchair psychologist left and right
Your first day on the internet?

>>11766833
They went out once. How is that "used to hang out". Are kfp really this retarded?

>>11766886
what? i think u meant it for someone else lol

>>11766931
yes, because Mori from today is different from Mori two years ago.

>>11766889
>Juby
>Not ever relevant anymore
What does that have to do with mori still being friends with her?

>>11766956
Ogey

>>11766989
Except she's not the only difference is her alcohol consumption

>>11766889
Retardchama doesn’t know that Mori still being friends with her despite her irrelevance contradicts his own rrat. Retardchama hurt himself in his confusion…

>>11767000
Genuine question retard. How is going out once count as "used to hang out". "Used to hang out" implies they went out multiple times, at least more than once.

>>11767046
kek. you're really stretching yourself over that goalpost move.

>>11766994
>>11767097
>everyone is Retardchama
Ogey Anons I like juby I wish she was relevant.

>>11767136
Sure whatever you want, we can do this all day ,doesnt change that mori is a cruel cold bitch that only feels self pity

>>11767238
She should've done her vocal reps like rachie. I remember when rachie's songs used to be so overprocessed back in the day. Juby's newer songs on the other hand are still overprocessed af

>>11767240
that has to be Kiara typing, no one else is this deluded
maybe go write some more sad tweets before trying to attach yourself to another genmate

>>11767240
Well, I'm glad we'd come to an understanding that your opinion will never leave 4chan and that It's not as valid as anyone's.

>Calli mocks LE KAYFABE AW GAWD LE NARRATEIVS
>proceed to appeal to its very concepts in speech
Wew lad w e w.

>>11767378
yes i am kiara ! totally not a tako

>>11761466
>>11764496
Well, she does have Charlie as her oshi, so good for her in achieving the same style of non-communication.

>>11761501
MMMMMMMMMMM using and dumping people while being high-groundy about it is badass MMMMMMMMMMMM

>>11767553
Very well put.
t. deadbeat

>>11767410
Anon nothing you or i ever did is Valid everything in rushing to the death of of Our universe and there is nothing you can do about it existence is futile

>>11767664
You have to be 18+ to post here

>>11767553
Does Charlie also habe the same problem?

>>11767594
is it why Kiara ended up having zero close connections and always drags all the friends through the mud before discarding them for her new crushes?
guess she's pretty badass then

>>11767735
Anon, Kiara is fucking starved for affection, you would've to be retarded to believe she would dump anyone who would give the slightest amount of it on her own volition.

>>11767855
then why she has pretty much 0 contact with anyone from her old circles?
why is she constantly remarking how friendless and isolated she is?
why does she keep starting drama bout her lack of popularity while making snide remarks towards her current 'friends' ('man, Ina, you were so lucky to have your birthday stream so you could be the first to 1M...')

being starved for attention doesn't make you a non-shit friend, Matsuri is beyond starved for attention and affection and she has a track record of being the most abusive and exhausting person in the company
this is what Kiara is, she's EN's Matsuri and she'll end up the same

>>11767980
Because she moved to and from japan retardchama meanwhile those "friends" pulled a Mori

>>11768045
yes anonchama, it's always the other people's fault
just like Matuli just keeps beign fucked over everyone, despite all the people that 'fucked her over' being perfectly able to keep friendly, long-standing relations with other people

>>11768126
Eggsactly

>>11768045
>pulled a Mori
Come on with this. Mori didn't do anything wrong and people trying to paint her as worse than she is are stupid.

>>11767980
It's almost like she talked about how she can't run in her olds circles since she's scared shitless of going to cons and being stalked.

>>11768126
Just like it's Mori's fault that the vast majority of her old friend dropped her, to the point she cried about it in her end of a life lyrics dive, right ? Funny how that works.

>>11768164
>people trying to paint her as worse than she is
Psst, they're deadbeats shitposting.

>>11768188
unlike Kiara, Mori actually had people stuck with her for years and years, so funny how little your argument works
I will love to see the KFP cope and slander towards Ame when the emotional leech decides she's not delivering the required attention quota either, just like Matsurisu tried to shit on Luna and Haato

You have to understand that most women have serious emotional problems and they don't make good friends. Vtubers aren't an exception.

>>11768188
>old friend dropped her, to the point she cried about it in her end of a life lyrics dive
Holy fucking retard, that's not why she was sad you faggot. She was sad because her old MENTORS kinda got jealous at her.

>>11768188
The people she cried over weren’t her friends, anon, they were just people in the industry who she admired and sought praise and validation from. You’d know all about it if you watched the stream but alas..

>>11768322
>people were shitting on haachama for being a "bad" friend
>turns out festival was in the wrong
I'm seeing a pattern here

>>11768414
haachama is just utterly insane neither mori or kiara come close

>>11768357
which are not FT btw, these are the net rapper circle who were with Mori before she went to Japan. It's obvious. If you look at how her music has changed, it coincides with her going to Japan and living there semi-permanently

Why can't kfp defend their oshi without shitting on anyone else? Literally what's their problem? Mori literally contacted kiara to sing her song in her karaoke but kiara ghosted her. She has also sang her song multiple times and even retweeted all her songs. What more do you need jfc, it's not like they're actually in a relationship either.

>>11768414
it's literally always the same cope, even when facts stare them in the face
>Mori ended up with a handful of loyal friends, people she regularly goes out with, a music support network that's ready to help her on short notice
>Kiara has like one 'friend' and keeps crying she's not a priority pick for anyone

but it's obviously the reality that's wrong and not my oshi

>>11768497
yeah, this seems to be the strongest prevailing theory. Most of her jrap friends are still supporting her and interacting, but those who were collabing with her prior? no response.

>>11765804
Watamage has powers. She is not to be trifled with.

>>11768524
I think i said at least 3 times im a tako

>>11762484
Basado

>>11762724
More like the Ametori Digikomi panel & realized Kiara is much happier with Ame.

>>11763844
We do know that some /cgl/ bitches watch/rage about Kiara.

>>11768909
yes, just like she realized she was happier with Veibae before
watch her drop Ame for Pomu next and KFP start shitting on Ame for being an autist, ship killer and not affectionare enough

>>11769108
No ame is all right

>>11769108
reminder that KFP shat on THE LITERAL ENTIRETY OF HOLOEN when they thought Veibae was giving their oshi what she wanted
every single Myth was 'autistic, distant, selfish' at that time while Kiara salivated over a hoe in a grim parody of Matsuri/Hoshikawa situation

and Calli actually fought management so she could be happy and collab with said hoe, simply cause she wanted her friend to be free to pursue what makes her happy
this tells you everything

>>11769230
Oh look what happened! Mori is autistic distant and selfish !

>>11769496
ogey

>>11762548
Kiara may not be that close with Gura but atleast she crashed Kiara MCart stream, and me as a KFP is grateful for it because kiara has been feeling down that month.

>>11769108
Ame is almost as worse as Okayu in regards to partner numbers, anon. She gives zero fuck to even Gura.

>>11769496
thanks for proving the point
Kiara and KFP are truly a mirror of eachother

>>11763716
Mori's recent Jump King guerilla collab with irys and bae was apparently an open invitation, and kiara was online at the time. Granted, the tone of the collab would have changed a lot with her included, but I really don't believe Mori would outright ban her from popping in for a bit, especially before irys joined. This may be biased because I feel far more comfortable with Mori's personality than with Kiara's, but if I had to guess, Kiara decided not to show up due to her menhera and inferiority complex. This would support Mori's side that says Kiara hasn't responded when she reaches out. Or, maybe Mori didn't invite her and Kiara is telling the truth, that she hasn't heard from Mori.

>>11769230
> Now: KFP shat on THE LITERAL ENTIRETY OF HOLOEN when they thought Veibae was giving their oshi what she wanted
> Then: KFP backstabbed Kiara by sharing Veibae bullshitting on Cover clip around their circles to stop the collab from happening
Okay KFP which is it? It's getting really confusing here.

>>11770432
there were like 2 KFPs that actually dropped her over that, the rest was clearly on line with the idea and shat on her genmates for not being good enough friends (despite the collab being possible in the first place due to Calli fighting management for her friend as well)

>>11770411
I'm fucking glad she didn't show up, 80% of the topics the other three were talking about was way out of her field. She would have literally answered no to anything they could ask her and stayed silenced, OR worse trying to start a conversation about a random ass reference from whoknowswhat and make it very awkward.

>>11770411
I’m so glad she didn’t. I don’t even hate Kiara or anything but she would have fucked up the entire mood of the collab, and wouldn’t fit in with the theme of their conversations.

>>11770411
majority of the things Mori recently did were some obvious open invites, Kiara basically sat out of them while Mori happily talks about involving Kiara in whatever stuff she's planning
in JK she even instantly remarked she wishes Kiara was the friend that was visiting her

Mori admits she isn't the best at communication or that she comes off as distant while talking online, but she never shown that kind of distance
people make a big deal of her not being around for Kiara karaoke despite being on a fucking friend, yet no one even mentions Kiara not being around for her karaoke or even rebroadcasts when Mori was dueting the song she asked her to sing

>>11764829
I fucking love this post bro.

>Mori being a cunt to Kiara
This is very new and unexpected. Never seen that one before. Truly groundbreaking events.

>>11771111
yeah, it's usually the other way round

>>11770938
Anon, all that shit happens when Kiara is asleep or busy with real life stuff (she has been going to doctors and dance practice recently).
Their timezones rarely overlap unless she ruins her sleep schedule.
The karaoke thing was only a "big deal" because Mori kept asking Kiara to sing the german naruto opening and then never showed up to the karaoke.

Not really surprising, even Kiara said there are people Mori likes more than her (Gura specifically).
The ship is dead and the friendship has been reduced to casual tier, both parties have already long accepted this. It was already obvious that Kiara moved on months before she announced that the ship is kill. I'm glad she finally snapped out of her autism menhara simping for Mori.

It was always just a friendship of circumstance anyway, they are two very different people, and no, opposites do not in fact attract. Obviously they wouldn't stay the at the same level after moving to different continents.

>>11771306
yes, obviously waking up is harder than rescheduling an entire trans-pacific plane flight
I love KFP logic, literally entire world needs to bow to their oshi otherwise its disrespecting her

no surprise she always ends up marginalized and alone

>>11761655
so would ina

>>11763810
implication is that Mori has any friends in Hololive
and no you can't say anyone from HoloMyth
and you can't say &Irys
and you can't say Bae

>>11765177
Sexually

>>11770622
>>11770826
I agree, I don't hate Kiara's collabs but maroon 3 was top stuff, one of my favorite streams ever. It wasso nostalgic even though I wasn't in the loop on every subject.

>>11761655
>>11761976
Mori is literally the only Myth that spotlighted/shilled/worked for people they were friends with already
the only comparable is Ina who got her friend into Council, while the rest of them dropped their past connections like a sack of potatoes

>>11770938
>JK she even instantly remarked she wishes Kiara was the friend that was visiting her
I remember that! So it really is just menhera Kiara being unwilling to change.
>despite being on a fucking friend,
I didn't really understand this but it sounds like Mori was busy and couldn't collab, whereas Kiara wasn't busy and just chose not to collab for whatever reason.
Timezones are indeed a bitch. I'd hate to be one of the only people in EU. Look at the EU time for the amongus 11 member collab. Since NA and NP/AU have so many members, the time must accomodate both groups and EU gets fucked, as always. This can't be helping Kiara's friendships either. She's the type that really needs people around all the time to keep her in check, otherwise she has almost no chance of changing the bad parts of her personality. Feels bad for her but unless she moves to either NA or JP, I don't see this changing.

God I hate chumpedos

>>11761655
>a Milkyqueen and BoogieVoxx collab later

>>11771938
fucking flight*

>>11772007
Oh, yeah that makes sense now. So people bitch about Mori not showing up when she's on a plane, and Kiara gets a free pass even when she was free. Sounds familiar.