/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

First we dont blame cover. Unless evidence comes out that yagoo was raping her on the daily it's normal for companies to have rules. Besides it really does seem it's a youtube thing anyway.

Second we set up squads that keep an eye out for debuting Chubas even on obscure sites. I highly doubt shell stay away forever.

Finally, we bitch and moan ignoring completely the first two points and just repost pepeloni threads weekly

>>1168924
>it really does seem it's a youtube thing
That means it is also a Cover thing and they were mad about money.

PEPELONI PIZZA PARTY THREAD

>>1168924
Cover is a black company who exploits their talents. Stop defending them.

>>1168924
It's one thing to have "rules" and another to not enforce them until the very last minute. If corporate was displeased with Haato running amok with this arc, then they should have put a stop to it earlier. They literally pulled the plug on the day before it was supposed to end. That's not enforcing your rules, it's being a shitty company.

>>1168924
>First we dont blame cover
Fuck off intern-kun

>>1168924
Considering they killed her project at the worst time, yeah, we do blame Cover, They are bitch made.

God DAMN

I would be depressed too.

>>1168785
By mailing Anthrax to YouTube hq.

Find whatever she does after she's done and support her there. Hope she isn't getting as fucked hard doing whatever that is as she is by Cover

>>1168924
The very first thing I'm doing is blaming cover, cuck.

>>1168785
>how will /vt/ contribute?

>>1171265
Long live the corporation, learn your place!

>>1171180
Fuck. If there were problems, Cover should have notified her last week at least. Practically a month's worth of work down the drain...

>be Haato
>do some schizo shit
>get called on your schizo fantasies
>private schizo arc
>make some tweets about going on a journey
>it's another schizo bait
>make literal autists boycott your company
schizochama... i kneel

>>1171180
>>1171337

Is Cover really that incompetent?

>>1171386
Absolute best case at this point that it is bait. But I don't have that much faith in Japanese Corporations, unforgettably.

>>1171180
Deserved.
Everyone encouraging self-harm should be suspended, no exceptions.

>>1171466
Alright, alright, take your (you), you funny little scamp!

>>1168924
>First we dont blame cover
nigger

>>1168924
Might be on both but they've never been shy about calling out youtube before. Best case is some suit at google called cover with a final warning or they were going to have to ban the whole company

>>1171612
It's most likely what happened since the series was gaining traction and youtube has been pushing this stupid family agenda for years now.

YouTube never "reaches out". They just ban, and then Cover scrambles for hours to days to weeks (see Suisei being demonitzed these past three weeks). This is Cover being 100% pussies.

>>1168785
It's part of her act.

>>1171515
Have your (you) funny Zhang.

>>1171957
trust the plan
H

>>1172031
Fuck off Zhang

>>1172031
that didnt go too well the last time, mr. letter

>>1171928
In just 5 years YouTube deplatforming has gone from fringe /pol/ videos to mainstream conservatives to edgy comedians to mainstream history channels to anime girls streaming, I don't see how there isn't a big enough audience for a free speech competitor when at least half the creators on YouTube hate the current circumstances.

Be it Cover being stupid, or them saving the channel from a possible take down, it's better to think how Haachama feels. Getting a month of work that you were passionate about removed in an instant must be a major blow to your mood and drive to keep making said content. I hope she can recover from this and still put out an ending that she's happy while staying within the boundaries of the new rules and continue streaming for us.

>>1172428
I hope she drops the stupid schizo thing and play just Minecraft.

For serious, what is it with zoomer spergs and Minecraft? In reading up on it, you would think HoloEN not always being on their Minecraft server is equal to that of a war crime.

>>1172819
Minecraft is a global language, just look at Peko and Moona. Everyone knows the game and can know exactly what's going on with it by a slight glance. In the case of Haachama, she studied architecture so her builds are insane. Just look at the Tower of Babel and it's honestly the most impressive build on the JP server

>>1168924

Honestly this is a fair point. It's not like Haachama was doing flower picking streams and then Enma got mad at her for streaming at the same time as Amelia and blackmailed Yagoo into suspending her for 3 weeks. Haachama has been pushing the limits of what she can get away with for almost a month ago in multiple ways: hanging, ecchi, gore, and pretending to be Hololive EN Gen 2. The latter is Enma being a cunt, but the other 3 were bound to get her into trouble eventually.

>>1172913
OK, good reply, that helps clarify. Thanks anon.

>>1172913
her babel is reported to be the biggest/most complex tower of babel in minecraft ever

Now she will throw in pepeloni for real.
First to F

It's now that she's graduating that bothers me. It's that not one girl has spoken up for her. This fucking nip attitude and lack honour sickens me. Now I hate those hipocritical quislings who have hung her out to dry. Fucking slant eyes really don't have honour but everyone else just tacticly bending the knee pisses me off no end.

>>1172307
>free speech competitor
lmao what world do you think you live in where such a thing would ever be allowed to spring up?

>>1173278
If you say so, Chink.

>>1173301
Dailymotion seems nice, I can watch old AMVs there that were taken down from Youtube for copyright reasons, like this one: https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x31xx82

>>1173456
that shit is still alive? fucking hell I remember going there back when almost no site hosted hd vids

>>1168924
>company has rules
>But only the ones that punish talent, any protections offered by those rules are for management. Any actions taken under these rules are to protect management, and punishment for these rules falls on talent

>Talent gets thrown under the bus with these rules, as they do time and time again. Particularly when it comes to enforcing protections
>Which they don't do
>>And commonly make problems worse (See: Coco's mod)

>btw don't blame cover for this

>>1170640
> not enforce them until the very last minute.
It's even worse than this. They apparently have rules but they only selectively apply to some and not all.

This is my nareative but pls listen

I think Subaru stream about Hololive audition told us about Haato situation as well

If we see about EN department
Subaru said " En do not have generation like JP"

That mean " EN gen2 " never happen in future because " new EN Hololive member " use theme like "myth" not "generation" and that mean a lot

So as manager's eye " EN gen2" may cause problem.

This is my opinion

>>1173278
The way Flare and especially Marine talked about Haachama in this clip was just a total bummer. One Nip does something different, and the others just write it off instead of cheer them on. Hololive EN is blowing the doors off them because they aren't just coasting on Apex streams.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oq0YeSAr7CU

>>1172428
I just hope she ends up happy & succeeds at whatever she decides to do. I don't blame her at all for taking a break after all this and if she wants to move on then that desire would be totally understandable.

>>1172307
I can answer this question: Youtube never made money.
I'm serious.
The company, when bought by Google, was actually on the verge of bankruptcy.
https://www.businessinsider.com/youtube-turns-five-years-old-but-without-google-it-would-be-bankrupt-2010-2

The site has NEVER made money. It has only lost money, even with all the advertising and social media scams and information harvesting that Google provides. It's STILL losing money. It will always be a hole in Google's pocketbook.

But
That's why Google keeps it around. Video streaming is expensive, and we're not to the point yet where infinite bandwidth can be given to just anything for free and have it succeed. The problem isn't that a free speech competitor to Youtube can't exist, it's that a competitor to youtube can't exist. They would literally have to be someone with infinite resources and money that they would be happy to burn a portion of just to keep it online. Like with Google and Youtube.

>>1173644
That's another thing
If this is something the EN branch decided, someone needs to slap the EN branch and tell them to get the stick out of their ass

I thought EN being the startup with make them less stuck-up, but I guessed wrong.

>>1173858
Other way around, Cover thinks English audience is retarded, and will confuse Haachama and Coco with HoloEN.

>>1173943
I'm not sure I can argue with them

>>1173721
Thanks, I respect Marine more now.

>>1173943
Sounds accurate.

>>1173721
EN has been dying for months what are you smoking.

Everything was fine until she used EN in her stream titles
Everyone knows who did this

>>1168785
I'll be frank wit u anon, I'd probably just keep masturbating

>>1174292
>EN has been dying for months what are you smoking.

>>1174292
>dying

https://playboard.co/en/youtube-ranking/most-superchatted-all-channels-in-worldwide-monthly

Last month, Gura & Mori were down, Amelia was the same, and Kiara and Ina were WAY up.

>>1174565
NO THIS DOESNT COUNT MY RRAT PLEASE LET ME DRAMA FAG IN PEACE AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH MISTER ZHANG SAVE ME

>>1174565
So they're getting mogged in views and supas by JP
Ty I like it when people argue against themselves

>>1174565
>The chicken is the one who made the most money
Hahahaha

>>1173789
>The site has NEVER made money. It has only lost money, even with all the advertising and social media scams and information harvesting that Google provides. It's STILL losing money. It will always be a hole in Google's pocketbook.
You fell hook, line, and sinker for that rrat which is designed to hide how much money ads actually make. YouTube is one of Alphabet's cash cows.

>>1174628
They're literally above over half of all of hololive, with Kiara sitting at number 6, I don't think that's "mogging" dude.

>>1174628
You don't even know what mogging means

>>1174565
Damn Botan really dropped off, sad she's one of my favorites.

>>1174684
>>1174697
Uh huh. Thats why there's no EN in the top 50 views but multiple jps
So "blowing the doors off" means struggling to outperform mid tier jp holos now?

>>1173550
I honestly don't think there is a point in arguing with cover apologists. And if they graduate her i'm pretty sure there will be whole line of haatons lined up in front of the cover office to kyoani it. They are capable of fucking something up every other week so at this point i don't think anything can surprise me anymore.

>>1174812
Are you smoking the drugs. Beyond that there are more clippers in the top 50 then actual content makers which is oof.

>>1174900
Oh sorry, one in the top 50
Do you have any arguments other than desperately trying to make ENs performance look good against top jp holos?

>>1171180
I think Haachama is a depressed person in general and puts on a crazy face to mask it. Kind of like Polka.

>>1171180
somebody had it in for her, thats some serious money lost. Its not even a joke.

>>1174931
Oh shit your right you win this argument even though you've been proven wrong twice and keep moving goal posts. My bad dude.

>>1174965
Its the exact same situation as the en minecraft server
She used EN 2 as a stream title and this triggered manager again

>>1174995
You really proved that EN "blows the door off" JP by showing how much less they get in views and supas
You

>>1168924
i'm going to blame cover anyways, i'll leave the cover corp dick sucking to r/hololive

>>1175010
Some racist fuck in EN management looking down on Elevens

>>1171402
I don't know bro. How about modding zhangs on Cocos stream. How about last Okayu 3d stream. And that's just last 3 weeks. We can add waiting until Chama reaches last video to pull the plug to the list now i guess. I love cover btw.
>>1175034
EN is capable of earning more than Mel and demonetized Suisei, is that not enough for you?

>Cover as a private business doesn't make public shows of them punishing the managers who fuck up, therefore it must never happen.

>>1171402
yes, when coco gave them a list of chinese antis to ban, they ended up modding them all and getting her legitimate fans banned. only good thing that came out of it was that they finally back off and gave coco permission to mod her fans to moderate her channel basically solving a 6 month issue in only a few minutes.

>>1175034
Oh shit I even fucked up the time scale, in the montly view Gura is 12, Kiara is 36, watson 39, and Ina at 49.
Only 5 JP talents out rank Gura on the list.
This numberfagging is making me physically ill your wrong bottom line EN isn't dying, its preforming above the majority of JP girls honestly.

>>1171957
I want to believe this but it feels like a cope

>>1175135
I can't wait for all their numbers to be tanked by gen 2
Fuck you uplity global trash pushing your narratives. The only people EN outperforms are choco and mel, and even they get merch

>>1175135
This was during a month where JPs couldn't stream as much because of bloom and still EN couldn't close the gap

>>1168924
Pekora also broke down and took a break from not being able to do something that apparently others have.

Coco is basically blacklisted from most events, wasn't even invited to the New Years streams.

Not to mention throwing away free high viewer content like letting the En girls run freely on the Minecraft JP server.

Hard to trust them.

>>1175170
>The only people EN outperforms are choco and mel
and okayu, and korone, and suisei, and watame, and rushia, and subaru, and botan, and aqua, and........

>all mention of Hololive scrubbed from Twitter

It was sudden, but I think this is the end of the line for Akai Haato and Haachama.

>>1173611
>>1170640
>Cover enforce rules
"herp derp they not allowing their talent to have liberty"
>Cover not enforcing the rules
"THEY NOT PROTECTING THEM WTF"

>>1175200
Excepted they did close the gap, and over take many of the girls, are we even looking at the same data at this point?

>>1168785
She’s not going anywhere, she just wants to take a little break, cause she’s tired of YouTube’s BS

>>1175218
>rushia
A lot of those are wrong but lol you're just trolling

>>1175170
Fuck is uplity

>>1175218
Rushia is top or second top earner in Hololive.

>>1175238
Yes? Beating roboco is not a huge accomplishment

>>1175232
Kill yourself through karoushi, Intern-kun. Yagoo will never notice you.

>>1175242

>>1175225
are we seriously going through this dumb timeloop again

>>1175200
EN is going to keep stalling out because the lockdown is almost over and more talented indies are getting big, unless gen 2 is so good they blow out the entire market EN is already plateaued

>>1175242

>>1175257
were talking views currently.

>>1175278
Ypu post the least profitable EN as a joke, when responding to rushia?

>>1175225

>>1175265
Oh I am sorry Anon kun but Yaggo asking you for a solution. to enforce the rules or not?

>>1175287
Begin the loop.

>>1175059
It blows my mind how many cover apologists infest that place. I assume everyone is a fan of the idols themselves, why would anyone support a decision by the company that directly harms the girls and make excuses for Cover?

>>1175218
Aqua?
Anonchama

Poor Haachama
EN fags can't even talk about her in her own thread

>>1175225
Next you are going to say
>SHE REMOVED OTHER HOLOS CHANNELS FROM 'RECOMMENDED' ON YOUTUBE

>>1175170
What makes you think Gen2 will out perform them? Reine and Anya from IN2 haven’t surpassed anyone from IN1, and not even Ollie has overtaken Moona yet. Of the top ten JP girls, Coco is the most recent one, and there’s plenty of representation across 1st to 3rd Gens.
Just because EN2 will be newer doesn’t mean they’ll get better numbers. I don’t know where this “EN2 will surpass everyone” meme even comes from, especially when EN1 literally has the most subscribed member in all of Hololive with a 1mil gap between her and 2nd place.

>>1175344
That place is completely run by the chuubas so doubt they'll let "fuck cover" posts keep going

>>1175344
The company is the girls. They are the big revenue runners and the biggest financial investment. Paying them as a whole is the biggest expense for the company. Cover is on fubukis leash as well and I trust friend. She wouldn't let a company destroy a girls career for nefarious reasons. There's no reason to not think that a Chinese youtube intern said this was promoting self harm to some suit.

>>1175225
https://web.archive.org/web/20210222014522/https://twitter.com/akaihaato

She had the same bio 2 weeks ago anon...

>>1175393
EN market is small. A large portion of them are just weebs that watch jps. The core market only has so many viewers
Gen 2 niji en
HoloEN is gonna have a tough time

>>1175413
And who is going to remove it? Coco who got bullied by cover almost as much as by chinese for half a year? Her girlfriend? Only wrestler seems like the one who would actually remove negative press about cover from reddit.

>>1175435
Wrong!!

Cover is a tech company first and foremost. Their product is mocap. The "idol" aspect is a subdivision demonstrating capabilities.

Cover sells the tech to other companies.

>tonight I will remind them
https://soundcloud.com/fuck-cover-ch/fuck-cover

>>1175278
>>1175303
>>1175308
Facts feelings......

>>1175490
Right, and hololive is a subsidiary of Cover, and im sure fubuki has some control over it.

>>1175515
You mean the fact rushia mogs ENs?

>>1175467
>EN market is small.
You do know the English is the language with the most people speaking it in the world right

>>1175553
You keep saying mogg, does it mean objectively losing like the screen shots show?

>>1175503
Based as fuck

>>1175503
stop shilling your shitty songs
mori will never notice you

>>1175358
This all started because some Nip Nigger was talking bullshit that was easily disproved.

>>1175450
delet your post right now

>>1175585
Show me the screenshot of rushia sc again?

>>1175154
It's 100% cope. Cover apologists will do anything to justify their black company. They took down the most interesting content in years and still haven't given Nene a 3D model. Plus they're not letting Gura colab with the JP branch. There's a lot of fucking shady shit going in with Cover and this board is well aware of it.

>>1175611
EN is a small part of hololive
You're the ones who brought it up first
Filthy

>>1174088
Marine strikes me as a oldfag cunt
And I say that being her age probably

>>1175225
She removed the tags weeks ago, anon

>>1175232
Based.

>>1175503
Peared

>>1175225
UMMM COVERBROS, DID WE GET TOO COCKY?

>>1175711
See >>1175659 and >>1175450

>>1175503
Yep, I'm thinking this is peared.

Fuck Cover
#FreeHaato
#FreeHaachama
Give Nene a 3D Model
Let Gura collab with the main branch
Fuck A-chan, fuck ENMa, fuck JENma, fuck YAGOO

>>1175737
>fuck A-chan
Gladly

>>1175503
Yep, I'm thinking this is based.

>>1175645
The only one coping here is you.

>>1175605
Cope she already be my wife nigga

>>1175792
Fuck off intern

>>1175241
This is the correct answer but people will drag it out to more than what is it

haato was really going to graduate and it was decided months ago, and she was planning to end everything yesterday with a bang before all of this

>>1175490

If Fubuki still live in Hololive

We can trust Cover and Yagoo

>>1175822
Fuck off Artia

>>1168924
If it was youtube, they'd just have banned haachama on the spot. You think they give a shit about things like "warnings" or "advance notice"? Youtube ALWAYS shoots first and reacts later if they fucked up.

This is 100% cover. And not only that, Cover has all the cards in this situation. The fact that they're staying silent when people are looking for an explanation speaks volumes.

>>1176016
Rent free

>>1176027
>If it was youtube, they'd just have banned haachama on the spot. You think they give a shit about things like "warnings" or "advance notice"? Youtube ALWAYS shoots first and reacts later if they fucked up.
Youtube is unironically too incompetent to be able to do this consistently

>>1175939
>He belebs
Fubuki is a cover plant, trusting her is exactly what they want you to do.

>>1171402
Yes, they should have canned Haato's fanfic project early

>>1176027
PREACH

>>1176081
Ok zhang.

>>1176081
It works, I trust in her more than in you drama queens.

>>1175939
Fuck off intern

>>1176127
It's the truth. Cope harder, Covercel
>>1176148
Cuck

>>1176081
After T-word accident

I really trust and respect her

>>1176184
Covercel is not something English speakers would type zhang

>>1172428
>make videos about herself having mental illness
>hanging
>suicide
>decapitation
More like Haato needs to seek medical help

>>1176184
Ok, Chink.

If she REALLY had balls, she'd unprivate everything, upload the final video with a description urging people to archive it asap, then ghost Cover entirely and make a new persona.

>>1176184
>Covercel
What the ever loving FUCK does this even mean?

>>1176204
>Portmanteau of two English words
>Not something an English speaker would type
???

Just saw the rrat that shes leaving to join niji EN. Any proof??

>>1176223
>If she REALLY had balls
Lol good joke, she's Japanese so she'll obey her corporate masters like a good Japanese wage cuck that she is.

>>1176076
Youtube may not be consistent in applying their own rules, but they are completely consistent with applying them with no warning at all. This goes beyond just vtubers too. Youtube simply does not give a shit about anyone on it's platform.

>>1176292
I never said they cared about anybody idiot.

I doubt she'll graduate, but it must certainly be a blow to suddenly have to put a stop on her recent project.

As for folks blaming Cover, it's more likely due to Youtube's recent rule changes regarding 'child safety'. From what I've read they've also been cracking down on horror channels, so I honestly wouldn't be surprised if it was all YT's fault.

>>1176278
>leaving to an inferior company
kek

>>1176223
I like your thinking anon

>>1176320
If Youtube was behind this, they would have taken her channel down, they wouldn't have said anything and there wouldn't even be time to take the offending videos down.

It's possible this could be Cover overreacting to Youtube's rule changes, but it's not Youtube itself.

>>1176320
It's better if she graduates anyways so Cover is exposed for the corruption it's been guilty of dating back to Mel's rape. This entire board knows it and you're a Redditfag in everloving denial

>>1176305
You quoted my post as if you were replying in the contrary to it(I'm assuming because youtube does not consistently ban content it says is against it's own rules). I'm simply reiterating my main point: Youtube would never bother to send anyone a warning about anything because they know they have everyone by the balls. They would ban first and you can beg them for your channel back later. Ergo, this is 100% cover's doing.

>>1176278
she's joining vshojo

>>1176401
haha keep seething faggot

>>1176419
With all the englishposting of late, that wouldn't even surprise me at this point.

>>1176401
>Mel's rape
She deserved it

>>1176419
And that's the correct thing for her to do to make VTubing relevant and popular in the market that cares about it more, and especially where most Haatons originate. Better yet, she should move back to Australia some time to escape the black company and tyrannical work culture in her native land.

>>1176450
Kill yourself or I will.

>>1176378
Eh, Cover over-reacting is definitely another possibility.

>>1176408
I'm going to be honest--I never actually bothered to read your post, I just wanted to get you upset in a vain attempt to quell my saviorfaggotry over Haachama, but it didn't work and now I feel empty inside.

What if I told you that all of this horror ARG stuff was not Haachama's idea?

What if I told you that she was being forced?

What if I told you that during a recent stream, she was actually in real distress and despite clearly not wanting to continue, her manager kept telling her to continue?

What if I told you that Haachama refused to act out the planned ending?

>>1176323
They are shit but it makes sense, she'd be free to be slutty like she wants plus Hoshikawa is there

>>1176546
I wouldn't believe you because the entire saga has haachama's brand of stupid written all over it

>>1168785
Hachaama will come back next week

>>1176584
>Haachama will graduate alongside Gibara next week
FTFY
This shit's staged bro

>>1176546
What if I told you to take your medication on time?

>>1176209
no no no.
You don't get it, she is being "creative"

>>1176563
Hachaama is stupid but not that stupid

>>1176595
Sure sure, keep working on your narratives anon

>>1176278
She is joining WACTOR

>>1176209
You don't help the mentally ill by hampering their creative outlets.

>>1176650
All narratives are true until proven otherwise newfag-chama

>>1176659
PREACH

>>1176668
This guy's mom sucks 50 dicks a day for a buck a pop.

>>1176668
You dont have proof, you are just a sad schizo and newfag seething over cover

>>1176711
The brain limit of hololive antis, geez how low can you fall?

There's 0% chance Haachama graduates holy shit stop being so paranoid.

>>1176815
t. Coverfag

>>1176815
let the antis be, they need some fun in their sad lifes

>>1176815
no I'm enjoying being a schizo

>>1176815
Fuck off Covercuck

Haachama tweeted this. What does it mean? I don't understand.

>>1176815
Fuck off intern hope you get your pinkslip when Haachama graduates for lying on the largest VTuber community on the Internet apologizing for your shitty brand.

>>1176856
>>1176840
Show me your hachaama membership

>>1176252
don't mind the zhang, he thinks he can just mash parts of two words together and have it make sense like in his language

>>1176868
It's over.

Guys what if Chamachama commits sudoku

>>1176879
>paying vtubers
What do you think I am, an idiot?

>>1176874
You are just another faggot who just want hachaama to graduate, you dont care about her so kys

>>1176252
>>1176204
>>1176889
>t. ESL room temp IQ SEAmonkeys

>>1168785
she lost chance putting the end of "haachama dead memes" now she will only be remembered as girl with personality disorders

the hell

>>1176906
A poorfag and a sad schizo, you cant make this shit up

>>1170580
>>1170640
>>1170689
>>1171180
>>1173550
>>1171033
>>1174292
>>1174859
>>1175215
>>1175344
>>1175645
>>1175737
>>1176081
>>1176184
>>1176401
Is this the best that chinks, antis and shitstirrers on vt can do? kek You faggots will never hold a candle to the nijiniggers.

>>1176982
Shut your goddamn shitface you fucking katana-waving corpo cringecuck.

>>1168785
this is just my rrat but i think they do this to teach haachama to behave well, she's been doing so many questionable things on her channel and because of contract they can't just stop them all so they do this dirty move to tell haachama "we will do this, so what can you do?"

>>1176982
Sorry intern but your logic literally makes no sense. Haachama might not have the swarm that Coco has but she's still reviled by the chinese. If anything the chinese would be on the side of Cover.

All me btw

>>1177039
mad cause true

>>1175483
>Coco who got bullied by cover almost as much as by chinese for half a year?
[citation needed]
your rrats don't count. and one manager failing to answer their messages isn't the entire company.

>>1168785
Haachama was doing something way more creative then any of the other idols and the fact she can’t even finish the series is extremely dumb. Fuck Cover

>>1177078
You dont care about hachaama faggot

>>1174668
You are objectively wrong.
https://www.businessinsider.com/youtube-ad-revenue-15-billion-2019-google-breakout-2020-2
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2970777/YouTube-roughly-breaking-nine-years-purchased-Google-billion-viewers.html

And Covid made it worse

https://www.forbes.com/sites/greatspeculations/2020/05/18/10-billion-googles-lost-advertising-revenues-due-to-the-covid-19-outbreak/?sh=2de88bf96f46

>>1176889
that's how it works, coverfag

Why does Japan hate everything that is novel?

>>1176982
These are probably the same dipshits that pay Coco to spam in her chat, only to immediately get b&

>>1177102
take your meds newfag

>>1176868
ESL-kun, it means she's not continuing her schizo arc because she got bapped because she was pissing off someone in management, possibly even youtube's management, not that the dumb cucks around here remember youtube's idiot management exists.

>>1177126
Because it's Japan, follow the trend or fuck off

>>1177140
>youtube
>management
the all powerful ai doesn't politely email you anon

>>1177131
>>1177138
>>1177150
>>1177140
What drives someone to make posts like this? Posts like
>reeeeeeeeee I love when faggots aren't creative, follow the trend or fuck off Haato!

>>1168785
>THINGS COVER SHOULD DO
I have a feeling it might be because she has attracted the ire of youtube's moderation AI. It probably was Cover staff that told her to knock it off to stop youtube from doing something though.

>>1177205
I think you may have missclicked one there.

Haato's roommate is genuinely the only creative person in the entire company except the model artists, everyone else makes content by piggybacking off of shit other people made. The way she's being squashed is a travesty. Fuck Cover, fuck Japs, long live the schizo.

>>1177234
>youtube's moderation AI
So why would
>None of the videos get demonetized
>None of them get taken down
>All of them, specifically from this character arc, get privated

I didn't know the moderation AI was powerful enough to specifically private only the ones regarding her character arc between normal streams she did while also keeping them monetized.

This had to be done by a human. An AI isn't complex enough to follow her, understand which are part of a narrative she's telling, and specifically flag those.

>>1177205
You don't want to fuck Haato off?

>>1177249
Probably.
I'm pretty pissed off and seeing people immediately start sucking dick because Haato was punished for trying something fun makes me seethe.

>>1177295
Yeah, either she or her manager made the videos private.

>>1177140
You hasn't had management for a year now, it's all AI baby

>>1177315
Only if it's Haachama.

So so far, Haachama:
>Can't play on the EN server which is confirmed by Pekora not being able to play on by herself without going through management first, which they haven't even replied to her. Therefore it can be assumed JPs/IDs can only play on it if it's a collab (since Reine and Ollie has yet to play on it either)
>Can't use the EN tag which was confirmed in a community post, citing "no one will be mad about this right?". No EN was mad about this, and I don't speak Jap but it's hard to believe Jap normies were mad as well. It was management that made her stop. This also blows back in Cover's face as Enma declared that EN will not use "Gens", so the fact they're so pissy is very fucking autistic.
>Can't off collab with Kiara due to """Corona""" despite Haachama having an off-collab with Coco, Kiara having an off meeting with Jenma (1 off stream too), and the Takamori trip
>Can't collab with Gura Haachama had planned and confirmed (both sides) of a HaachamaGura collab, which never happened for some reason. This was also after the Shion confirmation. Another rrat is that Gura is on a tight leash which is 1000% possible due to her size, and this isn't just EN specific bullshit
>Can't """jokingly""" apply for EN2 To be fair, Cover might not any more "joke" applications following Haachama. But it's painfully obvious that Haachama wants to be either her own "branch"/group (EN0 with Coco), or to actually become EN1 or EN2, since her own gen barely interacts with each other as is, and she's probably extremely lonely
Anything else? To say that the Haatocaust doesn't have to do with her wanting to rebrand is a cope. There's too many "coincidences" involving EN to not be correlated in any way. The video today would have most likely been her killing off Haato for good and going hard into Red Heart and Haachama (therefore barely doing JP streams).

>>1177295
You only read half of my post so I don't know what to tell you. All you did was repeat the same conclusion I came to. That it was done by a human.

>>1168785
I feel sad, guys. I know Haato probably really sad about this because she’s worked hard on this. She was the first vtuber I subbed to and started supporting, and I don’t want her to quit or get fired.

>>1177402
So it's because of EN?
EN was a mistake.

>>1177320
>Cover taking more risks than they already had when majority of their "talents" are medically/physically/mentally ill
They should be glad they are are even getting paid to be exploited in the first place

Let's be honest bros, Haachama is gonna go the way of Luna. She'll disappear for a few months. Sporadically return and make weird content and then just disappear again. She done with the bullshit moderation.

>>1177593
Oh fuck off this
>THEY SHOULD BE HAPPY THEY EVEN EXIST
Horseshit mentality. This is literally what the retards who defended Mel's rapist said.

>>1177623
I don't think she is going to respond the same way Luna did because she was planning this for possibly years.
She will either go crazy one day and upload the conclusion without telling anyone or just fall back to regular content

>>1168924
>First we dont blame cover
But I do

>>1177593
This is a wojak post in text form.
>SHE SHOULD BE HAPPY THIS HAPPENED BECAUSE.. BECAUSE SHE SHOULD, OK?

>>1177509
Always have been. I'm so mad that I actually unsuscribed all 5 of them. I don't give a fuck about their "next gen"

I always knew this shit being controlled by a Jap idol corp was gonna really shit up the content at some point. I mean Jesus, it's corporate AND Japanese, there isn't a worse possible combination for media creation.

Well except China, but I do not care to even discuss the bugmen.

>>1177402
>Can't off collab with Kiara due to """Corona"""
Tokyo went into lock down just as the collab was scheduled to take place so this one I believe was actually because of reasons outside of cover or really anyone's control.

>>1177827
no cover should've had a coup with the Japanese government

>>1177782
EN seems worse than the JP branch.
ENMA is hyper protective of EN branch for god knows what reason, only allowing EN to collab with mel of all people.

>>1177722
So you're punishing the girls for something they likely had no hand in?

'Kay then.

>>1177880
I'm starting to believe that ENMA is korean or chinese descent and really hates Japan.

>>1177402
>>1177509
I do wonder if the situation of Kiara making a collab with Pekora on the Minecraft JP server might have caused some beef within management because of the stuff that happened during ( Moona being jealous of the pairing going tee tee, attacking Kiara and backing down, going "Hmph" after Kiara died ingame ) and after that collab ( Moona feeling down/in tears because of her incapability to speak Japanese the same level as Kiara, while receiving random backlashes from antis at the same time ).

It probably did, rethought about it when Calli made collabs with Korone (KT&NE) and Watame (she provided part of the lyrics of her latest OS), but left it out on the water.

This whole situation I swear to God... I need some beer.

>>1176320
Idr which one it was but I know atleast one of her Cooking videos got flagged as “for children” which is bullshit

>>1177880
>>1177918
can someone red pill me on ENMA

>>1177722
Anon, are you retarded!? EN have pretty much been the only ones supporting her. Were you not there when she was planning collabs with half of EN?

>>1177900
desu, EN is boring af. I suscribed all of the Holos and Homos but damn, every EN is so dumb. Takamori is shit and over the top, Gura is painfully autistic and Amelia has the humor of a 12 year old. The only decent is Ina.

>>1176320
seriously how can youtube just take down shit like that just because its horror, that against the law?

>>1177976
Collabs that most likely would never happen thanks to ENMA.

>>1177880
Eh... Kiara's talkshow? Calli's collab with Korone? Amelia and Roboco? A bunch of other EN/JP collabs?

This is less a corporate thing and more an actual legal threat in multiple countries. Disturbing depictions of death and sex etc. It's a fairly loosely judged thing, but without even any kinds of age restrictions in place, it might bite everyone in the ass. Hope she's not too bummed about it.

Fuck all the changs shitting this thread up though. taiwan ichiban

>>1177953
> No JP/EN collab cause of one incident in Among Us (Likely)
> Forced Haachama to leave the EN server and stop the 0th gen gimmick with Coco (99% confirmed)
> Blocked Pekora from playing on the EN server for the same reasons (99% confirmed)
> Blocked a Gura/Haachama collab (VERY likely)
> Blocked COCO from EN collabs (100% confirmed)
> Told Gura to not say 1 million (100% confirmed)
> Blocks Mori from doing some JP collabs, especially the fabled Suisei collab (Possible)
> Stifled any real relationship the EN JP and ID girls can have to a point where it feels dead (100% confirmed)
> Is Korean (100% confirmed)
> Cut Ina's karaoke list in half due to songs "not being approved", despite the stream being unarchived (100% confirmed)
>Banning ENs from collabing with ANY outsider EN vtubers rather than having the obvious shitlist like VShojo (it's well known Melody is YABAI to Cover) and ex-CNs to avoid shitstorms
>Mori wanted to collab with a lot of people....none of them got approved
>Gura is stuck in her own bubble because she can't talk to the japs unlike almost everyone else

Luv Haachama
'Ate Cover corp
Simple As

>>1178114
Yeah mori wants too collab with charlie (critical) right? did they say no?


Also I actually kinda feel bad about gura being completely alone, it feels like they are walling her off like a prize.

>>1178114
Based.
EN will act like CN at some point.
The less they interact, the better.

>>1178114
>Told Gura to not say 1 million (100% confirmed)
When was this confirmed?

>>1168785
I hope she does graduate, her current content is boring and absolutely reeks of a woman doing her best to sabotage something instead of just manning up and quitting.
Cover's to blame for hiring such a young talent, her family in Australia did a number on her, but at the end of the day Haachama deserves her share of blame for just going along with things instead of standing up for herself. She should have come crying back to mum and dad after a month.

>>1178114
Sauce on the confirmed shit?

>>1178222
>Yeah mori wants too collab with charlie (critical) right? did they say no?
shut the FUCK UP ABOUT THEPOOPPEEPEPEORMAN GOD NOT EVEN /HLGG/ BITCHES ABOUT HIM ANYMORE GODDAMMIT FUCK OFF YOU FAGGOTS

>>1178286
Isn't Subaru just as old, or maybe a year older?

If you haven't pre-emptively archived every one of her member streams, you will live to regret it. Don't make the same mistake.

>>1178223
I know whats gonna happen, most likely the en crew will just go solo like vshojo because they cant interact with the streamer area (gura likes forsen, mori likes and wants to collab with charlie)

vshojo is so powerful because they are free and can get more advertisement through normal streamers. collabing is a huge deal in america/ the streamer world and the EN girls will get sick of the japan idol ways of blocking them off.

I see it a mile away.

>Can't even collab with members in the same company
Why do people shill for Fagoo and this shitty company again? Niji, VOMS, and especially VShojo are superior when it comes to letting their talents have a degree of creative freedom in their content and who they want to collab with.

>>1178299
Man I'm just spitting facts bro, its not even a big deal.

>>1178246
She refused to say the "one million" and instead just say an ambiguous "Thanks for the support" The current rrat is that ENMA told her not to say it because she "stole it" from Korone and FBK and the gachikois would harras her. But by doing that the effect was what she didn't expect, Gura seemed as she didn't "care enough".
I'm half-asleep and english is not my first language so I might be missing some info.

>>1177402
I like these rrats, I’m stealing them

>>1178424
I know what you meant, thanks for the info. I'm guessing she still hasn't said 1 million on stream even today. I don't want Gura that much so I wouldn't know

reminder that rrats are false until proven true

>>1178340
Subaru is the exception, Shion is in the same age range and she has similar problems with professionalism.

>>1178424
Alternatively, she just felt a bit awkward about reaching such a huge milestone in such a short time while a bunch of long-time Holomembers were struggling to get past 300k.

>>1178353
Mori isn't going to quit the gig that's gotten her music out there just to colab with a manlet, you're a delusional bandwagoner if you think any of these girls care about "streaming culture" instead of actively hating it a la Kiara and Ame in her angrier moments.

>>1178372
NO YOU LISTEN HERE YOU INSUFFERABLE FAGGOT, I'VE HAD TO DEAL WITH /HLGG/'S CONSTANT BITCHING ABOUT POOPOOPEEPEEPOOPOOMAN FOR MONTHS AND EVEN THEY EVENTUALLY MANAGED TO MOVE ON, THAT SHIT WAS NEVER GOING TO FUCKING HAPPEN. THIS ISNT' EVEN ABOUT HAACHAMA ANYMORE, IS IT? IT'S ALL ABOUT YOU NIGGERS JUST WANTING TO REVIVE DEAD RRATS BECAUSE YOU'RE SO FUCKING BUTTHURT OVER THIS STUPID SHIT TO THE POINT WHERE YOU ARE MAKING UP STUPID BULLSHIT ABOUT UNDERTALE BEING PLAYED FOR MONTHS ON END.

NONE OF YOU FUCKING ASSWIPES EVEN DESERVE HAACHAMA BECAUSE YOU'RE ALL SO FUCKING ADDICTED ON RRATS. I BET YOU ALL WANT HAACHAMA TO SUFFER, DON'T YOU? OOOH JUST THINK OF THE FUCKING RRATS IT WOULD GENERATE, AND EVEN THA TWOULDN'T BE ENOUGH TO SATIATE YOUR HUNGER, YOU SICK FUCKS

FUCK YOU, FUCK YOUR RRATS, AND GET THE FUCK OFF OF MY BOARD YOU FUCKING TOURISTS, GO BACK TO /V/ OR /A/ OR /LOLCOW/ OR WHEREVER THE FUCK AND SHIT UP THINGS THERE

>>1178049
Anon she literally got to collab with Ame and Ina. I don’t know what you are taking about

>>1178577
Mori has been watching critical for 10 fucking years and yes sooner or later gura will most likely fucking leave if they keep walling her in. Shes gonna fucking lose it.

>>1178648
Gura just seems bored, not angry.

>>1178505
I think she said in a member stream that she was planning something "big". We never found out what it was, probably got shutdown by ENMA for reason or another. My rrat is that it was a cover song with FBK or other JP talent. And that is why she singed Holo songs in the 2M karaoke stream as if trying to "mend" the bridges that she and ENMA burnt.
Also take into account that Gura suffers Major Impostor Syndrome and that is the wondergirl of ENMA, that's why she is in her own bubble unnable to collab with JP or even ID alone.

>>1173789
>he hasn't heard of LBRY
Late reply but keeping you fags in the dark seems cruel to me.

>>1178660
never said she was angry, more like utterly lonely in her work place. think about having 2 million subs yet you are basically alone. streamers with far less get too do whatever they want.

FUCK YOU

>>1175215
The EN girls are welcome to join the JP server iirc. They just don't want to. It's the JP girls that aren't welcome on the EN server. There's 2 likely rrats for that:
>They don't wanna play favorites by giving permission to one JP talent but not the others, but if they let everyone play on the EN server it'll just become JP 2.0 since there's so few EN girls. Since Ame/Gura are so bad at Japanese it'd be awkward for them if they logged into their own server and see 2-3 JP girls chatting amongst eachother.
>They don't want to over-develop the EN sever before EN2 debuts so they aren't overwhelmed when they join.

>>1178290
Do your archive reps, I'm not going to spoon feed you

China's latest plan: use the Haachama controversy to spearhead a divide within the hololive fandom

>>1178734
So it's just bullshit then, gotcha.

>>1178762
Cover only has themselves for giving the chinks more ammo

>>1178762
Why would me hating Jap suits make me like China?

>>1178663
My rrat is the reason Calli/Ame/Gura haven't done 1mil celebrations is because they plan to do them all together in a collab when the other 2 hit 1mil in like 2-3 months. Maybe even a pre-recorded 3D concert or something.

That way they can shift the narrative from "Gura is carrying EN" or "Kiara is lagging behind" and make it clear they're all in it together or w/e.

>>1178648
He's a streamer, she really doesn't give a fuck about him when it comes to making dosh.

>>1178660
Gura has always alternated between being really into it and kind of out of it, it's just her wishy washy womanly personality.

>>1178762
a divide seperating newfag redditors and crossboarders from people who have been watching vtubers for more than a week, heaven forbid. china is the gigarrat of the shit fucking board

>>1178762
I believe it

>>1178872
It's called ADHD anon.

oh god i wish i can have a girlfriend like Haachama, i want to fuck her while listening to her chuuni shits when i broke her hymen. Please God, I want to impregnate Haachama so bad. I want her to bear my children with those beautiful yummy tummy, radiant Crow like Oz. Like a Vampire Queen, having come down to Earth to sucks our bloods
Haachama is beyond divine. I can’t help but drop to my knees in worship whenever I see her beautiful figure. I yearn for her in a way both primal and spiritual. I would commit more war crimes than every president in United States history just to lick the sweet, glistening sweat from her smooth, creamy skin. I want to listen to her moans as my manhood throbs within her, I want to hear her heart race as our bodies become one and our souls irreversibly intertwine in the holy sin of carnal union.
I want to suckle at her motherly bosom, slurping that rich juche milk from her tits as she gently strokes my raging erection. I would stir her velvety Japanese cream into my coffee and let my balls boil in it. Her cries of pleasure and the rocking of our bed would be louder than the cacophony of ten thousand drone strikes. I would make love to her until my body gave out, and then some. I would let her break my rib cage with any part of her body. I would let her hit me with her car just to be near her for a brief moment.
She’s so perfect it hurts. Every moment without her I suffer a pain worse than breaking every bone in my body simultaneously while drowning and also having shards of glass coated in hot sauce forced through every orifice of my body. I want her, I need her. I want to desecrate her crisp general suit. I want to start a family with her and retire after our twenty seven children have grown up and moved out. I want to see those luscious lips speak such filthy, perverse words into my ear while she slides ice cubes down my gaping pisshole.
I want to fuck her like she owes me money. I would let her step on me, just to feel the soft, firm warmth of her feet upon my face and groin area. I would sleep under her just to catch her drool in my mouth. I would fish the strands of hair from her shower drain just to smell her alluring scent, and braid them into necklaces to keep her with me always. Or cock rings. Whichever would please her more.
God please, I would do anything for her. I would relinquish my life, all my hopes and dreams, just to become the socks on her feet so that I may warm her mouthwatering toes with my very being, so that she may feel the heat of my love always. I would encase myself in cement and become her doorstep, so that she may wipe her heels upon my face. I would tear my own limbs off. I don’t know what I’d do after that, or why she might want my limbs. But I would do it.
My queen, my goddess, the light of my life. Please God, let me have her. I want her to be mine and only mine. I would lick the Doritos dust from her fingers and fill her belly button with honey mustard to dip my tendies in. I would give her a sponge-bath with my tongue every morning and serve her breakfast in bed. I would let her eat her eggs and pancakes off my body if it pleased her, no matter how painful the third-degree burns would be.
I would bear the torment of eternal damnation until the end of time to taste the seat of her car but once. There is nothing I wouldn’t do for her, nothing I wouldn’t say. I would beat my own mother to death with my engorged penis if it would bring a smile to Haachama's shining face. I wouldn’t even let myself cum until she gave me permission.
I love you, Haachama. Please. Be mine. Be my wife, my lover, my daughter, my walking toilet, my everything. Say yes. I see it in your eyes, when you’re up there on that throne talking about nuking Japan or whatever. Answer my calls, respond to my letters. Something. Give me a sign, Haachama. I’m waiting for you.
I’ll always be waiting for you.

>>1178762
Maybe cover should stop fucking up then and the chinks wouldn't be able to do anything

They actually bullied a girl into leaving for god knows how long from her job in a pandemic, great job assholes.

If this happens im going to do a kyoani studio move

What the fuck's going on, Haachama can't finish her schizo arc and that's it right...........?

>>1178929
It's called being a woman.

>>1178962
If you're talking about Haachama she doesn't need a job, she's still in highschool and her family's loaded.

>>1179021
That's the tl;dr of it, basically.

Whether it's because of YT regulations, Cover being prissy, or a combination of both, nobody knows.

>>1179059
Its still fucked up.
And wait is she really still THAT young? wtf

>>1173943
>Cover thinks English audience
*Flashbacks old corporate leaders like gamefreak and nintendo

>>1179100
Bruh, she literally talked about finishing high school a couple of months ago.

>>1179100
Yes, she is 19 right now. Joined Hololive at 16. Just graduated from aussie High school

>>1179021
well that and shes gonna loose a ton of money from all those videos she put time into and took away her freedom of speech.

>>1179100
She finished high school I'm pretty sure (she mentioned it at some point) but struggled academically so I have my doubts that she would leave to go to college or anything

>>1179059
Didn't her family send her away to bogan hell BECAUSE they weren't going to give her any money and didn't like her?

>>1179133
If shes 19 shes not in high school anymore.

>>1179147
W0t did yuu fahkin' say 'bowt my cunt m8? Yuu wan'ah fahkin' go m8?

>>1179147
Most likely she was sent to Australia to improve her english, she is 1/4 british from her father's. Her first foster family (I think her uncle's) would verbal abuse her and being negligent (Haachama cooking is what she COOKED because they wouldn't give her food).
Then she returned briefly to Japan and when she went back to Australia she went to new foster family (I think her aussie/british grandma).

>>1179147
No, she's never said that. Her family in Aus treated her like shit though.

>>1178114
>"this is MY hololive and I will do as I please!! "

Why is enma so GAY

>>1179169
Or maybe because how the JP school system works she is on the "older side" from her aussie school? Or maybe she had to repeat a year due to burocracy shenanigans?

>>1179275
>Haachama is irl ayaya

PERFECT

inb4 faggot Holocuck jannies shut down the thread for talking about irl shit

>>1179320
Managing Hololive requires the strongest of wills. As a whole Enma has been a net good on EN by providing tech support and preventing bug infestations.

Who is this enma? does she actually tweet or some shit?

>>1179839
Nickname for the EN manager.

There's also Jenma, Calli's and (previously I assume) Kiara's manager in Japan.

I've been gone for about a week, can someone explain to me what the hell is going on?

>>1180127
Cover suspended Haachama

>>1171957
>its all part of her arc. She is the definition of kino

>>1180144
Or, ya know, she's upset she had to cancel her project and decided to take a break.

>>1180244
she'll just throw a hissy fit during her 'break' and then come back like a good obedient Japanese corporate cocksucking lapdog that she is

>>1176401
Mel's rape?? I haven't heard of this.

>>1178946
>while she slides ice cubes down my gaping pisshole
holy shit, kekd way too hard at that.

>>1177122
>You are objectively wrong.
Those articles do not show that I am wrong if anything they show that I am right. The second article says that they were breaking even in 2015 implies that they were making a profit.
>And Covid made it worse
The article still says that they predict ad rev to still grow, just not as fast as it was before.

>>1168785
I miss her already...

>>1181090
Pretty much, like when it happened recently with Pekora.

>>1174936

>>1168785
Honestly speaking it's most likely due to youtube rather than Cover specifically.
They're just trying to cover (ha ha) their ass by keeping her content slightly more ad friendly.

>>1174936
Why would Polka be depressed?
She got another shot at being a big vtuber after crying the last time she got fired as one.
If anything she seems to be really happy to be doing what she's doing and always seems to compliment and thank Yagoo for the opportunity she's been given.

HAACHAMA JUST RELEASED AN OFFICIAL RESPONSE TO COVER. TURN ON CNN
https://youtu.be/HdSXTExI8_A

>>1189306
Well it was a good run guys. I guess that confirms the graduation rrat.

feel like pure shit just want her back

>>1178340
Subaru has the unique advantage of being a chad