/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Remember to not reply to bait or retards

>>11689980

>>11690117
Damn it, I replied to a retard

>>11690736
>honk cute

>>11689951
>Buy Marine
>Sell Towa
>Hold Rushia
>>11690736
>buyan marine
>sellan kiara
>sellan towa
>buy towa
>sell ringo
>buying pekora
>buying hololive
>selling sora
>holdan coins
>holdan loss
>probably fine
>kiara based

>>11690940
>kiara based

RIP thread

>>11692628
Most of us are asleep at these hours

>>11692628
momeer...

Like a bolt from the blue, it's time for the Numbers Review.
This data was collected at 7p Server Time but in the thread confusion I forgot to post it.

Here's the R.I.C.H. report for today:
>Total Shares in circulation amount to 3,807,325, a 0.36% increase from yesterday's volume
>Average shares per coin is 66,795. There are 27 coins above this average.
>Pekora currently has the highest volume, at 229,183 shares, or 6.02% of market volume.
>Civia currently has the lowest volume, at 8,234 shares, or 0.22% of market volume.

Top 5 Volume Increases (of 28):
>Nabi :: +15.5%
>Pochimaru :: +13.7%
>Amelia :: +6.3%
>IRyS :: +5.7%
>Ayamy :: +4.9%

Top 5 Volume Decreases (of 28):
>Ollie :: -6%
>Shion :: -4.9%
>Matsuri :: -3.8%
>Roboco :: -3.7%
>Kiara :: -3.5%

1 coin (Flare) had a net 0% change in volume today.
9 other coins (Nana, Coco, Gura, Marine, Ui, Aki, Pekora, Polka, Mel) had a sub-1% change in volume today.


Here's the R.I.S.E. report for today:
>Starting Liquid is estimated at $95,790.85, which is an increase of 5.14% from yesterday's estimate.
>Total Market Value for today is $44,685,492,550.27, which is an increase of 4.46% from yesterday's Market Value.
>Average Value per Share is $11,736.72. A total of 16 coins are above this average.
>Pekora currently has the highest value, at $4,218,690,656.16 in total market value, or 9.44% of market value.
>Civia currently has the lowest value, at $64,579,097.32 in total market value, or 0.14% of market value.

Top 5 Value Gains (of 40):
>Shion :: +39.4%
>Towa :: +38.3%
>Nene :: +37.7%
>Rushia :: +30.9%
>Lamy :: +24%

Top 5 Value Losses (of 17):
>Calliope :: -24.8%
>Ayamy :: -19.1%
>Nabi :: -18.5%
>Pochimaru :: -11.2%
>Amelia :: -9.4%

1 coin (Roboco) had a net 0% change in value today.
21 other coins had a sub-5% change in value today.


Here's the F.R.E.E. report for today:
>Today's Superchats totaled to $46,179,733, which is a decrease of 9.86% from yesterday's Superchats.
>The Broker made $50,846,634.01 today, an increase of 0.94% from yesterday's salary.

Top 10 Superchat Increases (of 23):
>Fauna :: +9.5%
>Mio & Kiara :: +3.6%
>Flare :: +3.5%
>IRyS :: +2.9%
>Haato :: +2.7%
>HLuna :: +2.3%
>Miko :: +2.1%
>Sora & Ayamy & Okayu :: +2%
>Towa :: +1.7%
>Marine & Amelia & Watame & Nene :: +1.3%

34 coins did not receive any Superchats today.

Superchats continue their decline. While previously it was hard to find a day where most coins didn't get a superchat, superchats now pretty much exclusively come right after dividends, and then trickle for the rest of the week.

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The Financial Underwriters of Comprehensive Knowledge would like to remind you to stay informed, shitpost responsibly, and FUD accurately.

time to sleep
I won't be online rest of the week, keep the thread comfy pls

>>11695011

Dear kind traders, would any of you kindly grug explain me about mpp?

>>11695011
Cursed Knowledge. Do not read unless you can accept the burden of this knowledge.
The artist didn't completely blur the background properly, so the Mumei/Sana dolls have detailing in full focus, making it look like Fauna has random back hairs or something.

>>11695300
good news, I am way too drunk to even see that because I am on vacation

>>11695281
Grug keep track of average number of berries needed to get rocks.
This help Grug decide if should sell/buy rock now or if Grug would be better off doing nothing.
Grug not sure this matter, though. Grug just use it as general guide.

>>11695443
Thank you dear kind anon

Warning: Large Image Ahead
How can it be the News Hour without HOUR NINETEEN to tell us?
>"I have dreamed a dream and now that dream is gone from me"

>>11694724
1 coin (Flare) had a net 0% change in volume

>>11695300
They look blurred out to me.

>>11695281
MPP means average stones grug paid for holo coin
grug buy fat cat for 5000 stones
grug buy fat cat again for 7000 stones
grug pay 5000 plus 7000 stones for 2 fat cats, so is like grug paid 6000 + 6000 stones
if grud bought 1000 for 5000 stones each and 1000 for 7000 stones each MPP is 6000 stones
MPP is grug measurement whether grug make more stone selling holo coin or not, so the lower MPP the more stones grug get
likewise the lower MPP the better MPP div% which basically means how many stones grug paid for free stones on fridey

>enters thread
>mpp doesn't matter
>can't post images
>exits threads

Time to log in and just buy Towa for the first time in weeks.
I was too busy recently I watching Towa, sorry.

>>11695855
>enters thread
>mpp doesn't matter
>can't post images
>exits threads
focking retarded?
just post images

Not to armchair, but I get what people mean about not being able to move now. Back in my day, we used to be able to move up a few places and maintain it, because we could just shift ALL our wealth within a few hours. Made a play that few other people did? Or that you prepared for a couple days in advance? You're on the fucking moneyroad.
How about we multicoin to the EXTREME? 50x multicoin (or more?), with 10x -50x having scaled taxes of a similar scale to the ones currently in use. The main issue is that we're stuck in our positions without being able to take advantage of our full stacks.
Don't even ask me how the fuck I can make this work. I'm not a game dev, I'm a retard. It's just a suggestion and I'm sure it can't just 'happen'. But maybe the devs could make that work after a bit, and have higher scalings every now and then when the economy starts to become stagnant.
I'm a man with suggestions and no smarts, so I'm sorry if this isn't of value. You've probably thought this through yourself and though 'wow, that's retarded' ages ago.

>>11695879
thank you for you hard work target sama. i have been watching towa as well recently lots of good treams recently

>>11695695
Thank you dear kind anon

>>11695571
Is it just me or is the general trend upwards?

>>11691095

>>11696652
wonder how long it'll be

>>11696035
I think one guy said it quite well in the past, the market (or player growth) feels "stuck" after you reach a certain point, not being able to shift assets in little time means you are just going to get hit by adjustment, and the problem with that it's not only that people have all the numbers for 12+ hours but that adjustments aren't really stats driven most of the time, people have so much buy power that overbought is going to trigger or at best the coin will crab. You can't really make plays when pretty much everything that would go up its going to fall instead thanks to the sheer buy power of the top 50
I also don't have any ideas on how to fix that (aside from moving adjustment to an earlier time like before, but that might be very bad for many players)

>>11695300

>>11697026

>>11697026
kek

>>11696861
adjustments have zero effects on
>our
buying power
t. rank ~35
let me give you some perspective

>>11696861
so here's currently rank 34 soon to be 35 and my spread
nearly 75% of it is >1000 coins, you can not feasibly shift that without losing money, and most of it is either long-term investment or oshicoin.
I've been in this rank forever, only climbing when someone eternally abayos, which is perfectly fine for me because I like looking at numbers.
You will see shitcoins in there (Sana) because I only buy coins I like the chuuba of. Kinda gimps me but it works because thanks to multibuy I just buy more of coins in that selection. Otherwise it would be long time to diversify further until I have all the coins. Might very well be but eh, too lazy.
Best Div%MPP are Subaru and Botan, 7.5k and 5.2k per coin on average respectively so those pay tons with me having spent the least out of my whole portfolio. Shuba is strong this week so she kinda doesn't count. Botan meanwhile has paid out nicely for a while.
Long term is Miko/Marine of course.

>>11697319
>>11697748
Well, fuck me then

>>11697131

>>11698082
I WANT TO END MIOS MENOPAUSE AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>11698132
Get in line pal

>Marine just extended her break until November
SELL SELL SELL SELL

>>11700853
She got infected by Ayame, I can't believe she hates her fans now

>>11696652
>>11696811
Here's a longer term Market Report if you want a bigger "trend" to look at. Forgot to close the tab, might as well.

>>11698082
do you have any of subarus bikini stream i can never seem to find it

I'll chime in on the Climbing conversation a bit here as well.
I personally have climbed about 17 positions in the last month (from 88 to 71 as of today), and I don't think 17 people have abayo'd.
You can climb to a point, but you're probably going to hit a wall around the 50~60 mark. I don't think I'm likely to get much higher without people quitting or making REALLY dumb decisions.

Also, yeah, a core problem is that nobody in the top 100 can reasonably cash out a strong position in a day without burning a lot of money (thus invalidating the point of cashing out). Remember that you need the coin to basically triple in value to justify selling 5x without losing money. I don't feel like diving into the archive to see the last time that happened, but it's been a while. Maybe Sora's birthday? All of the more recent big moons have been 50~100% increases.
I'm not making enough from dividends (I got about $11m last week), so I've been getting up to do adjustment plays in the morning. Reminds me of Zhonkbot's early days in a way, although I can't abuse idiots autobuying for free daytrade profits. There's too much volume out there. Nothing moves anymore unless EVERYONE is buying/selling. Shion spiked to about 14k today, and she's only barely scraping the bottom of 11k now, 14 hours after adjustment. A couple of months ago that would've been her price a few hours after adjustment, not half a day.

>>11703161
You know, when bogration happened + volatility changes it was quite something to see adjustment dips or rises to dissappear after 6 cycles, I don't know if it would fix anything but it would be interesting to see how more volatility affects the current market (although it should probably not be as high as back then)

>>11700853
I hope she quits along with Haato. We don't need whores in Hololive.

I'm going to make 50m today, I should climb a whole spot! Until tomorrow, then back to normal.

>>11704109
>I'm going to make 50m today
You only make money if you sell Suisei after the adjustment.

I built Python 3.7.12 from source and enabled AVX optimizations and Spectre mitigation because why the fuck not. Drag/dropped all that shit into the install directory to "update" it after realizing it likely wouldn't make an MSI as part of the build. Thanks faggots, you got me to secure my shit just in case 3.10 doesn't work with something.

C:\>py -3.7 -V -V
>Python 3.7.9 (tags/v3.7.9:13c94747c7, Aug 17 2020, 18:58:18) [MSC v.1900 64 bit (AMD64)]
C:\>py -3.7 -V -V
>Python 3.7.12 (default, Oct 19 2021, 23:31:02) [MSC v.1916 64 bit (AMD64)]

>>11703161
Definitely gonna have to agree with you on volume being too much again, while not as bad as the great Rushia purchasing fiasco at least yet, Mori/Calli/Brap is still 3k under her price before adjustment and with multicoiners, and she's legitimately one of the best coins in the game.

With more bitching about volume, Me and Tower have been buying 7/8 Towa per cycle are effectively able to curb the mass selling of Towa as well where she's gone from 30% to 24% in over 12 hours. If I switched to 5x Towa, she probably would still be above 25-26%. While neat that players could impact the market in some way, it is stupid that I'm still 36, 14 hours after adjustment, even if I'll drop again next adjustment. Towa and other coins should realistically be at their pre-adjustment prices at this point, which can also help to curb the POI numbers being known usage by making it so you legitimately couldn't buy Mori on discount until the next adjustment.
The game has reached a point where players like M who had 1375 Towa pre adjustment, sell only 25 Towa even though she went up 30%, and be perfectly fine, ignoring the shitty dividends he receives. Players don't really feel the impact of one of their coins taking a hit or mooning, and can effectively ignore moons for little to no repercussions. There is no real reason to sell coins that moon except for minor profits that may arise from coins mooning.
For example, on Towa, if you held 100 Towa and have been selling her since adjustment which is about 93 cycles or so, assuming no multisell, you have made about $1.6 mil in selling alone. $1.6 mil will not allow you to climb the board at all especially higher up, and while of course, all the money you make matters, but when you compare that to the dividends you could've received which is about $1mil, you realistically made $600k of real profit. Again, this selling money could've been used to reinvest in other coins for their dividends, but again, there's the purchasing fee, and realistically, why would you even have Towa when she's consistently a shit coin for dividends, you could've feasibly sold Towa or other coins before adjustment and reinvested into better dividend coins. There is no real way to climb up the board without monotonous grinding of tiniest percentages of profits. The game has reached a point, especially at higher ranks, where you can't pass the person above you without having a better dividend portfolio than them for multiple weeks of dividends.

TL;DR: volume too stronk, coins don't reach their pre-adjustment fast enough. profits from mooning are not significant enough to actually have an impact without numerous weeks of monotonous grinding for the million or so you can make off a coin mooning in a day. all focuses should be centered around dividends if you want to climb at a higher rank, and even that requires you to grind for multiple weeks/months.
solution? lol fuck if i know. maybe make stay high longer if positive, which encourages multicoin selling. otherwise im lost

TL;DR TL;DR: For fucks sake stop buying Towam she is legitimately a shitty coin from a financial perspective and I know like none of you fucks legitimately watch her consistently, I want my market share to be 20% consistently without autistically purchasing a shit ton of Towa.

>>11706459
Just a tiny thing but (in case you didn't factor it in) those $600k go down by 5% because you are going to want to reinvest them before divvies hit or in any other place, granted it's just $30k, but it's still and even lower profit nonetheless
other than that, I agree with everything you said

>>11706459
Yeah, I think part of the climb I pulled out was my position in Choco/Aki paying out. If those coins crash I'll probably drop down to 75 or something.

>>11707088
I didn't bother with that 5% there for convenience, but $30k is legitimately such a non factor into profits/money. I spend $30k a cycle alone on Towa practically every day.
>>11707322
Probably, like I said, it takes weeks of monotonous grinding to even climb nowadays. Assuming you're BBB, I'm pretty sure ogey_rrat has been inactive for numerous months now as he hasn't purchased any Towa, but is still top 75ish, and you've been active for ages now, and he's still above you with a majority hold in Towa of all coins.

For a tl;dr of >>11696035
>Player-based volatility made the game fun
>Player-based volatility should be higher
>No matter how big the increase at adjustment, at least the top 50 will be able to not even pay attention and make the same amount of money as you and everybody else
>We should be able to shift our coins easier
>Incredibly high multibuys (compared to the current) should be allowed with a periodically increased cap scaled to volatility, but maybe not such a high tax/keep the current scale but increase the bracket to include higher amounts (still at 1.5x or whatever)
>Problem solved according to retard (me)
Please give short/concise reasons as to why this is not a good idea, or how you can make this work if it is

>>11707811
I know, I know, I just wanted to point it out as yet another incentive to not sell, not to mention that if you ever dare to turn on 2x multicoin that $30k goes up to $150k, and you get more and more diminishing returns as you go up, selling is just not worth it man

>>11707897
Scaling would definitely have to be adjusted for your idea to work, not a numbers guy, but you're just gonna run into the second type of inflation called coin inflation, which is a way harder issue to solve. Scaling would have to find the sweet spot to actually be a play while not being mandatory but also not be legitimately retarded to do so. There is no need to get people to buy more coins when divvies already incentivizes that, you need people to remove their coins, while not immediately regaining them soon after.

>>11708179
So would you suggest a considerably lower tax on selling than buying? Would that make much sense? It would certainly reward players who actually do their research and make long-term plays.

>>11708248
I mentioned it in >>11706459 partially, but there really lacks any major reason to sell coins on a grand scale due to the penalties of multisell and the minor profits you get from selling in the first place. As long as you have 80+ of a coin, which most of the top 100 players do, you can feasibly squeeze out all the profit there is to get out of a coin mooning currently. It really just depends on that "considerably".
It angers me that M can hold 1350 Towa on a day where she's mooning without repercussions essentially, as there is no real need to sell at higher ranks, as he would only make $1.8 mill today, when he would just get $1mil in dividends from Towa from the same amount of coins he would've sold.

>>11706459
Still buying Towa.

>>11708592
There are only 4-5 people I accept buying Towa so odds are numerically, you aren't one of them.

>>11708647
Am I one of them?

>>11708685
Do you happen to be on the Kenzoku oshiboard or a certain toy for the Kenzoku?

>>11708397
So I'm at least partially right in saying selling tax rates should be lower, gotcha. I sincerely hope we get more player-based volatility that allows for you to empty like 500 coins overnight (at least in this current market) and drive a coin into the ground or up to the sky.

>>11708727
Yes.

>>11708791
Then you're one of the accepted ones at least in my handbook.

>>11708727
> toy for the Kenzoku?
What?

>>11706459
Besides a reset and then limiting shares, i dont really see a fix for the volume problem.

>>11708842
...

>>11708842
Something something Heimin.

>>11708757
yea you're right, there's just not really any pretty way to incentivize selling, which is what needs to be done.

>>11708863
>reset
won't ever happen. there's just not a reason to sell coins, multicoin is essentially only useful for purchasing due to the downsides of multisell. there's just nothing pretty that can be done to encourage selling, and legitimately the few times where mass selling has ever been good is when the bogration is off for a while and then gets turned on.

Hi-
An update to the autotrader has been made so that you can now see the step quantity and expected balance in the trade summary view. We've also made the logic for how the trader determines what coins to trade a bit better so that it now actually simulates what to trade in the order that you list the coins in, e.g. if you have a buy order after a sell order, it will determine whether to make that buy knowing that you will gain X liquid from the previous sell. The pending orders will also be reflected in the rule list, showing the coins to be traded as highlighted and the ones that won't be as darkened. Please hard-refresh to get this update.

>>11709260
Thanks honk, been waiting for this.

>>11709260
sex with honk

>>11709260
auction doko? can we get a preview of how it works? i'm excited

>>11708950
Maybe 30% tax for selling 1x to 5x.

>>11709439
>>11708757
I suggested this before and didn't get much traction but since we're on this topic again, I think lowering changing the multipliers so there's not as big of a jump from 1x to 2x and a bigger jump on the stages between 2x and 5x would be better. Pic rel is only for buying, but there's almost no good reason to ever multi-sell with the expensive taxes unless its something coco-grad tier, especially with nerfed adjustments

>>11710195
There's still the huge problem of everybody being able to make the same amount of money due to holding enough coins to sell all day, even at 5x. Stagnation will still be very annoying (a better word would be boring), which is why I proposed the idea of extra large multibuys/sells so that people will actually run out of their stockpiles within a day or less. There is too much of a lack of effort now for the game, at least for the top 50, to be any fun.

>>11710195
>>11710444
30% tax for every sell. Doesn't matter if it is 1x or 5x, you'd still pay only 30%. With this tax rate more people would be willing to sell more.

It's a game, it's meant to be fun

>>11710500
you mean people would just not sell?

>>11709260
Thank you honk

>>11706459
You're right in your assessment (not enough volatility, shifting capital is too slow, even the most effective trading strategies give little profit compared to net worth), but your example is slightly wrong. You should not consider dividends when calculating profit from selling, precisely because of the reinvestment into different coins. Selling is a perfectly valid strategy, just not multiselling. The only exception to this is if you are so rich that you have to constantly buy, which isn't a thing for you or me yet.

Only edging others in dividends provides enough profits to actually move. Consistent day-to-day trading might yield you multiple million per day at most.

I still don't get why we have the same tax rates for selling. It doesn't really make sense or viable for any plays. I would rather keep the leftover coin I didn't get to sell for dividends than sell for 2x to sell them all

>>11701164
>Civia
worrying

Kuroboshi coin soon?

>>11703398
see the problem with that is we can move even less coins than now so the top 50 would be more or less stuck as they are even harder. Sure they would move faster intra-day but networth and rank is a meme, most of what you see can NOT be made permanent.

>>11712867
>not affected by adjustments
>thus not affected by overbought
>a small number of oshicoiners who buy her no matter the price
the only way for civia to go down is if people sell, and as no one except oshicoiners own her, she never goes down

>>11712891
This is just purple Ina. I really expected more from him.

>>11710500
I'd be willing to sell precisely nothing and purely live off divvies again.

>>11712983
Imagine ina and kuroboshi together. God I didn't know my dick could get this hard

Coin volatility could be fixed if there was a good way to cap the number of total coins that enter the market each week
Or perhaps a way for coins to leave the market other than selling.
Perhaps a crafting system of a kind that uses coins as material or fuel
Or Holonations

>>11713095
If you want a marine hat you can craft it but doing so will cost you an X number of marine coins as tax/fuel/additional material

>>11713121
>>11713095
Make more items for the gacha, increase the drop rate of the items in relation to 500$ or nothing, perhaps implement a proper rarity system, make hats crafting only, with each hat having a specific recipe or something using the items that one can gain from gacha
add a coin tax on crafting
t. man with no gamedev experience

>>11713229
Oh and implement auction or trading system for the items, hats maybe or maybe not

I'd like to see the game move away from a permanent leaderboard and go for a monthly reset instead. Maybe reset leaderboard once every 3 months or so. But you can keep your hats. I know not everyone will like this but isn't it true that the game just isn't fun anymore? It was the most fun in the beginning, before buying 5x oshi all week nonstop became the norm.

>>11713259
Maybe give the top 100 players a bit of an advantage at reset, too. Just divide everyone's net worth by 1000 and give them extra cash as a bonus.

>>11713043
Clearly people will sell with 30% tax. Just look at irl.

Gentle reminder the more we bring up old ideas the more likely the mentally challenged will try to derail because they can't just witness someone having a discussion without them being a significant part of it.
They will come, ignore and move on.

>>11713095
Unironically make it that we can only buy coins if people are selling them. Make it an infinite loop too. No coins leaves the market but it just leaves the players' wallet. If people are not selling then make it that we only have a weekly limited coins that we can buy from the broker directly

>>11713550
I'm only basing this idea from how crypto works, I do think it'll work for us because there are always people who are going against the current trend and people that are oshicoining. The only problem about this are the less popular coins but if people aren't buying them now, I don't think people will in the future, and that it will give advantage to people who are already holding a good amount of coins but that's just natural if market will stop releasing more coins.

>>11713550
Every coin has a coin pool, and coins are added there every week. When a player buys, a coin is removed from the pool, and when they sell, a coin is added.
Alternate idea would be that instead of each coin having its own coin pool, the entire market has a coin pool and buying a coin reduces the size of this pool by 1 no matter what coin is bought. This version is a lot more flexible and allows for more player freedom I think.
The rate at which this affects the number of coins in circulation can be adjusted by changing the values of how much coins are added each week, and how much selling or buying a coin affects the coin pool.

>>11713773
The number of new coins added to the pool each week could depend on channel metrics or perhaps divvies and the number of coins left in the pool

>>11713773
It does give more freedom. Overall pool sounds good but our main problem about this would most likely be oshicoiners just destroying the pool. We will also most likely receive a lot of complains once the pool reached or deflates quickly.

>>11713973
Maybe there could be pool credits like there is broker tax credits? Selling a coin adds 0.5 coins to your pool credits and the other 0.5 to the market pool?
in the event where the market pool has been bought out you could continue buying by using your pool credits. This would also incentivize rich players who still have liquid left by the end of the week to keep selling their worse positions in order to continue buying better coins.

>>11712891
V-Tuber debut soon? No? Then fucking no. We need a YT channel, so it can be a coin.

bad idea because this is founded with the implication that people will sell, players will hold more now that coin scarcity is a thing

>>11714132
They are free to miss the big peaks in prices then

>>11714132
It will force other people to sell. You wouldn't want the market to stop moving before we reached divie day, also that adjustments are tempting.

>>11713550
This is the best idea. Also add limit buys and limit sells. The problem is it would cause a massive increase in server load and probably isn't feasible.

>>11714183
thus the pool suggestion. I assume it would lessen the load on the server

Tensai witch Shion!!
https://youtu.be/tc_hgJ9KNJU

>>11714289
>deleted

>>11714289
>shion's moon
LETS FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOO

>>11714289
>[deleted]

>>11714152
>>11714180
Hope those peaks are worth it on missing out stacks then. I assume that if devs will impose limits, then the playerbase must feel the limit, like 5k limit per coin per day perhaps so that every buy and sell is hella important

>>11714328
>>11714365
wrong thread aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

>>11714467
It's not a big mistake, though. People used to share streams and talk about them here.

>>11714446
It will force a new meta at the least if devs do impose it and I feel what we need right now are new ways to play with the market. Devs can impose a lot of system to balance out the prices but in the end of a day, having infinite amount of coins is something we need to give attention to, it'll only worsen if we continue to ignore it.

I NEED A BIG FAT FUCKING RED DAY, I HAVE 62 MILLION ON A WEDNESDAY

WHERE THE FUCK IS EVERYONE?

>>11716066
taking a shit

>>11716066
The usual are being filtered by ingame discussions.

>>11715986
there you go

>>11715986
based honk

>>11716066
There was a \Tools\msi folder I somehow missed. I'm makin my own Python redist so I can update 3.7.x on all my machines.

ohh sex

>everyone but me left to discord

>>11714615
When will anons her start trying to talk about streams again? I liked it when we offtopic to talk about silly things like ongoing streams.

post 'em

>>11716574

>>11714467
Yes, holo streams are offtopic, this is an ERP only thread!

>>11716710
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>>11716574
To my surprise, the streak of no-red days (at the end of the day) wasn't broken yesterday, but it will sure as hell be broken today.

>>11716574

>>11716819
sex

>>11709260
Really loving the update, honk.

Iofi rising in the booba chart

>>11717463
She was always stealth booba. Choco was literally doing fucking math to try and size her on stream when Iofi did Choco's Exam Collab.

https://twitter.com/hololive_En/status/1450802114154811394
https://twitter.com/hololive_En/status/1450805608626618371
https://alt.hololive.tv/news/208/
IT'S TIME MY FELLOW ANONS

>>11717521
ooooh

>>11717358
is lunacoin cursed or something, before, her target quantity bugged out in the zhonkbot menu, now she doesn't get highlighted properly

VERY important.

SHE CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT.

>>11717521
>communication lobby
Is this where T3s get VRChat perks with their oshi?

Shion did a Pokemon TCG pack opening.

Good morning /nasfaqg/, let's see how much money I...
What in the fuck did you guys do!? It's like sub ticks expired on the entire fucking market.

>Aki about to eat 10 boxes of chocolate on stream
Aki...

>>11719283
GIRI GIRI AIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII. IKENAIIIIIIIIIIII BORDERLINE.

I'm compiling binaries of everything because why the fuck not.

>Aki will never fondle your oppai mousepad on stream

Good morning, I am buying Towa.

>she's actually fuckin eating them

>>11719735
I was expecting little card shaped bars at the very least, these do not look good

>Aki pulled 2 SR Mels
IT'S A SIGN; BUY BUY BUY

Brosnan....

>>11719787
they look like rabbit turds

>>11719787
>>11719891
They're probably caramel drops coated in chocolate. Kinda like Milk Duds.

>>11719505
Hi

>>11720299
Konyappi

>>11720325

>>11720460
No

I'll enjoy this, even for a bit.

>>11719455
No idea who you are or why are you doing this, but try compiling gcc if you're this bored. And then recompile the OS, you're using Linux, right anon?.

>>11720542
Soon

>>11720595
Joe! I'm still at -70m for the day, everything really took a shit today.

>>11720763
aye, market got fucked, but look on the bright side! Suisei is cute today too!

Smug today too!

>>11717521
>Holo sandbox game
It's finally time, I will build an empire for my oshi

Is auction coming out before the end of the month?

Isn't suzy just a failed idol that turned into a vtuber?

>>11722685
No, she's a failed vtuber turned into idol

>>11722685
No, she's a failed vtuber idol turned into a successful vtuber idol.

>>11722685
>>11722750
Failed idol and failed vtuber. Also no tits.

Vtubers aren't idols nor they can ever be. Stop calling them idols.

>>11722843
idol deez nuts lol

>>11722882
go back

is the aggie up?

>>11723047
still up for drawing yes

>>11723047
aggie deez nuts kusa

>>11723047
no wonder the thread is dead

>>11722685
she was a jack-of-all-trades-master-of-none kind of person, and no one wanted to hire her. (Not even Yagoo, initially) But her sheer persistence and perseverance trudged her for 2 years as an indie until she finally got into INNK with azki, eventually transferring into the main Hololive branch. She got to where she is not with luck, money, nepotism, but pure hard work, and the fact we saw that journey just makes you want to cheer her on. Her story is one many people can relate too, and I think that even if she isn't your favorite, she can serve as an inspiration. I will NOT take my meds thank you very much.

>>11723187
The chat's been disabled for well over a day, die you nigger.

>he acts like they didn't unironically make a discord server

>>11723265
>tfw you've been playing the game for months and you still haven't gotten the discord invite

>>11723265
[insert link to that liz discord]

>>11723265
I watched that chat like a hawk, there is no actual discord.
>tfw they're whispering so you don't know

>>11723265
wtf, how did you find out, it was supposed to be a secret

>they haven't been running a chatbox for weeks just to scan for discord links

>>11723366
>there is no actual discord.
Guess again >>11723323

>>11723323
>tfw can't escape the lizcord no matter how hard I try.

>>11723513
The Lizcord is all consuming and eternal.

>no discord
>no aggie chat
>no big streams on
>schizo trying his best
So, what killed nasfaq?

>>11723605
>no big streams on
Have you tried looking for SMALL streams on?

>>11723605
scroll up to start of thread when game discussion was occurring

>>11723605
>no discord
Bro?

>anons complain about the holding Gura, Pekora, Mori meta
>suggests a limiting coin pool generation per week which would make this meta even more obnoxious
What direction do you guys really want this game to take? Shitcoins need to be bought in higher quantities to be equal to buying a bigger coin. How would limiting coin generation do anything other than make the hold big coins meta even more meta? Every single change that anons propose to save the market just happens to be dogshit for shitcoins and even better for the meta coins.

>>11723799
>How would limiting coin generation do anything other than make the hold big coins meta even more meta
You nerf the divs to the ground. 1 Mori gives 100$ in divs. Simple as.

>>11723895
>t. retard

>>11724043
>t. faggot

>>11724043
>>11724085
now kiss

>>11723799
Reminder that there is absolutely nothing wrong with the current dividend metagame. As long as the system makes logical sense, high-performing channels will be worth camping for dividends. Changing this will do nothing but be change for changes' sake. This is why the devs got shitposted for suggesting the dividend model that gives payout based on active volume.
The problem is that, for a while, there was no OTHER method of getting good income to use on the market. Adjustment plays were basically nonexistent because everything would go in one direction (usually down), so you couldn't buy low and sell high. You need the market to go both directions regularly for that. Adjustments have been getting better he said on a near-mono-red day, so it's possible to make actual meaningful adjustment plays. Yes, "meaningful". If you are Top 50 you are going to be fighting a battle of inches, and it's time people accepted that. There's just too much autism and old money in the top 50 for that to not be the case. You are in a battle of attrition against the people directly adjacent to you. You should not expect to get a good dividend payout and suddenly jump 5 places. That is not reality anymore.

Daytrading is still shit, though. Adjust transactional volatility and see if that helps.

>propose the same "solution" that has been shown not to work a thousand times already
>expect devs to listen to them this one time because?
>"""game discussion"""

Good morning nasfaq, time to take your meds!

>>11724303
i've never seen mori in a nurse outfit before

>>11724303

>>11723943
Cyberman

>>11724303
I refuse.

>>11723799
For the record, only one was verbal about the metacoin holding and it was someone who refuse to play the game.
I think limiting the trading to be player to player was the right idea but giving the coins a pool limit isn't exactly the right idea. If we limit the trades to players buying from a player selling or vice versa, we could at least force some people, not all because there would still be people holding, to sell or buy during adjustments.

There are already some players who go against the trend and we could take full advantage of oshicoiners that way. For the shitcoins refer to what >>11713758 said.
>but if people aren't buying them now, I don't think people will in the future
I do see a problem with this though, that is if the shitcoins suddenly held a big event, where will people get coins if the holders refused to sell and where will the coin holders sell said shitcoins. Maybe that's a good idea to put in the pool. Maybe make the shitcoins have their own pool and limit the popular or coins that has huge volume to be player to player only.

Another thing about the current popular coin holding meta, there's nothing wrong with it. It's IMPOSSIBLE to not own any of said coins with our current market and excessive amount of reds UNLESS you really hate the idea of holding metacoins or hate the holo. Or just hate the idea of playing the game.

>>11724323
>mori

>>11724303
you can't make me

>>11724345
>>11724516
>>11724641
It's an order, take your fucking meds. All of you.

>>11724595
As one of the shitcoin holders that stands to benefit a great deal from any shitcoin buff, coin pools are retarded. Pretty much for exactly the reasons you state: I don't have to sell, but you also don't have to buy when I want to cash out. I think emulating this particular aspect of the IRL stock market is a bad line of thinking.

>>11724637
never seen mori holding light sticks like this either

>>11724641
This hospital is equipped for all manner of patients.

>>11723799
What direction do you guys really want this game to take?
I think you would need to look at what counts as "winning" in nasfaq for that, if you treat winning as climbing the leaderboard then the current strat is, as you said, to hold meta coins
but why is this the meta? Well, they pay high dividends and we are currently living in a dividend centric market.
So how do you fix this? Well, the devs are (were?) thinking (trying?) to implement a new div system based on total amount of shares in the market, since everyone has a lot of Peko/Calli/Whatever their dividends would be heavily nerfed and shitcoins would become a very good investment, the problem with this (I think) it's that it doesn't fix the main issue, everyone would switch to holding shitcoins, perhaps Mel/Aki/others would become the new meta, the same thing as before would happen again, it would just have a delay until those coins become the most bought, the only change this brings is that we enter a metacoin timeloop, in which, after buying the shitcoin to infinity the old metacoins return to being good, then you switch again, and again, and again, going in an infinite loop.
Well, since changing divs doesn't fix the problem, what should >we do? As stated earlier, since we are taking winning in this game as climbing, and you do that by making money, the real problem is that dividends are the most efficient way to get money, as stated by >>11706459 and >>11707980 you need to move hell and earth to day-trade only to get very small profits, and if you want to make the process quicker with multi coin your profits only go down, meanwhile just holding is far simpler and gives almost the same amount of returns, it takes no effort to play divs, and it gives huge returns, why would people not do it?
So what do you get from all this? Unless a way to earn more money (or at least have noticeable returns in terms of profit/effort compared to divs) is discovered/implemented, holding meta coins for their divs will forever be the play.
Sadly, I don't know any way to make that a possibility, you would probably need to look into reducing taxes for multicoining or messing with the buy/sell cooldown, but as of right now, unless a mega moon happens, selling 144 coins will never as worth it or easy as just holding them until divs, I mean, look at the Towa post, only 600k profit when the coin shot up by 30%, how many coins shot up 30% every adjustment?
That is, of course, if you believe that dividend playstyle is wrong or needs to be changed, you could argue that this is just what works the best since high chuubas have high dividends and that makes sense

>>11724718
Never!

>>11724757
>going in an infinite loop
This wouldn't happen. They would just stabilise in less than a week. Arguably fixing nothing, which is what people have a problem with.

>>11724728
I do think that coin pool isn't really a great idea to put in the game. I just really can't find any good buff to balance the shitcoins, there's no one or very scarce that would buy them even at high price, they have such low volume/shares in the market and their price is low compared to all other coins while being low shares in circulation coins.
I guess it'll be hard to buff them.

SHUT UP AND LISTEN
>Unusual hats
>Casino update
>Lottery
>Holonations
>Crafting system
>Rare, animated, oshimarks
>Profile pages like in steam
>Backgrounds
>Superchat stats into adjustments
>honk asmr session once a month
>Weekly rewards/awards for certain milestones

Limited coin pool anons want players like Konnui, mogu, Tower and Towa's harem to completely ruin a buy in for their respective coins.

>>11724962
>>Superchat stats into adjustments
>t. rushia oshicoiner

>>11724728
>>11724959
>there's no one or very scarce that would buy them even at high price
I meant this as a scenario that if they had a big event and went up. Sorry, forgot to specify.

>>11724940
True, maybe it would be something like all coins would have the same return % so you could buy any coin you want, hadn't really thought it like that

Just to go against that one poster or the usual "timeloop" posts that I won't give (You). I would rather prefer this kind of discussions than the usual you-know-what posts.
Come and join the discussion or just ignore us if you're really against it. Thank you.

>>11724757
tl;dr the game has no skill expression right now because the only way to make meaningful money (for a lot of players) is dividends and thats been solved, am I understaning correctly? I feel the same way too

>>11725147
tl;dr tl;dr the game has been solved and there's nothing left to do

>>11724757
I myself don't mind if there's 'metacoins' that remain the same, I really just care about how fast we can change things, both in our wallets and the market. If it's near impossible to move around the leaderboard or get rid of a whole bunch of coins, the game gets very boring very quickly. That was the problem with inflation, it wasn't the big numbers. It was the lack of ability to respond effectively to market changes or to change your playstyle just out of choice. You had too many coins and the market moved too little (because you could only sell/buy so many).
Yes, I am going to continue to shill massive (and scaling) multibuys, with similar multisells that have a lower tax.

>>11724757
>selling 144 coins will never as worth it or easy as just holding them until divs
I do feel this. Whatever I do, I just can't beat the dividends return with the exception of Hololive, Calliope, Pekora, and Gura which ironically are the coins you will hold for huge dividends. You either lose the 144 coins for a day and buy them tomorrow, or just hold the 144 coins then proceed to buy 144 more tomorrow.

>>11724959
The strength of shitcoins is that when Choco goes to 6k I can sell 50, profit at 2~4k a share, and immediately buy 100 the next day because she dove back to 3.5~4.5k. Approaching it from the angle of "how do we fix shitcoin dividends" is pointless and only leads to "let's flip the dividend meta turnways".
Shitcoins are at their best when you play the day-to-day market around them. You are making a gamble. It is not safe money, but it's a low buy-in compared to the metacoins, so it's very appealing for people that want to circulate liquid quickly and generate small incremental profits.

This is a spitball, so I've put almost no thought into it at all, but one idea is that you could change adjustment volatility based on market volume. Lower-volume coins have more drastic adjustments. They spike higher but crash lower. There's obviously problems with that, but it's an idea. Everyone seems to be overfocused on dividends. I think dividends are fine. >We need to start looking at improving the play experience for day-to-day play, otherwise the game is going to become "play maybe 30 minutes a week and wait for Dividends", which is what is causing a lot of the percieved lull lately.

It's not the "ain't sellin'" meta that needs attacked, it's the circumstances that led to that being the only way to play for a while.

>>11725061
While I do agree that this kind of discussions are way better, it'd be appreciated if people could come up with ideas that hadn't been said a million times already.

>>11725227
Make tax 1% per coin and nerf divvies to the ground.

>>11724757
>That is, of course, if you believe that dividend playstyle is wrong or needs to be changed
A playstyle that incentivises not playing... I wonder why people don't fancy it.

>>11725181
That's not the main problem with the game really, people had the game solved before we had all the problems that we do now. The big issue is that we're like a sailboat in a storm, we're completely unable to do anything against the market. Our wallets are too cumbersome, we can't change according to the daily 'waves' of the economy like we used to in the first couple months.

Anons saying the game has been solved now so there's no skill expression. The game was solved once the first 5 dividend charts were posted. The same three suspects all at the top nearly every week, and when you play for months it's about consistency, not one good shitcoin week. The only thing that mattered was an adjustment time that happened before the numbers were calculated on poi.

>>11725147
pretty much
>the best way to make money is divs, those have been solved already
>to spice things up you would have to come up with something that gives more than divs
>except no one has a clue how to do that
>>11725227
yeah, it's just that without multi you are limited to 144 coins a day, and that does fucking nothing in terms of profit and shifting assets, it would be better to wait for divs, unless you multicoin, but if you do that your profits go down waaaay too fucking fast, I agree with you, reducing tax and scaling multicoin might be a possible solution that's worth looking into

>>11725296
>The strength of shitcoins is that when Choco goes to 6k I can sell 50, profit at 2~4k a share, and immediately buy 100 the next day because she dove back to 3.5~4.5k.
I know, what my problem with it is if the case of trading being limited to player to player. If the case that they go up to 6k, no one would really buy them.

I also have no problem with the current dividend play because it's the most efficient way to make money right now.

>Lower-volume coins have more drastic adjustments
This sounds good actually, the main problem why they're shitcoins because of their channel reach, they will never be able to compete with the other coins. That's why we need something to buff them up and this sounds like a perfect idea for it. If people starts buying them then they lose that buff because of their volumes going up.

>>11725357
>could come up with ideas that hadn't been said a million times already.
I also do agree with this but said ideas being timelooped is also because we think that the timelooped ideas are a good starting point to make changes in the market and think of even more ideas, also we're given free thought about said ideas because the devs have never declined said ideas and tell us that they won't work.

>>11725721
>because the devs have never declined said ideas and tell us that they won't work.
Do correct me with this if I'm wrong. It will also be a good way to end timeloops if we have a post from devs that we can present in the threads that is stating that said ideas are rejected or simply wont work.

>>11725885
That would be great.
Maybe they feel like they'd gain enemies if they rejected people's ideas. That might be why they neglect to respond to suggestions. For me, I'd rather have my ideas rejected than ignored. But that's just me. Some schizo might lose it if they're rejected by THE honk.

>>11725960
Honk is literally Armchair Dev Prime. That's more than fine, I'm not expecting pro-grade design choices out of a team of anons on 4chan. In fact, Honkler's done something that is generally fairly difficult: made a devteam of anons on 4chan.

Should we try to come up with ideas then? Let's try to keep it simple, for example
>New dividend system based on volume
>small explanation (divs are now tied to coin volume, this means meta coins are now less meta and shitcoins are now worth it)
and then others can reply with why it would or wouldn't work, in the example we already kinda know since we've discussed that one to death since the devs proposed it
Could a good way to keep track of what has already been proposed and the general idea of what the player base thinks, also helps the devs to have an easier time if they want to look at what we've come up with

What am i missing?

How about this as an idea, before adjustments everyday, you can guess the post-adjustment price and instantly sell/buy 144/288/432/576/720 coins (with taxes still) if you get it correctly/in the range. For example if a coin spikes to 8k and you guessed 7.5k and submitted an order to sell 144, your 144 will be sold instantly at adjustment for that price and all other anons that had a sell order that passed. If you guessed over the price, your sell order will fail. After all the orders are processed the price will drop according to volatility and the # of coins sold. If you guess too high you miss out on profits, same with if you guess too low. These orders don't count toward your daily buys/sells and you can keep buying/selling after the orders are processed. Same would happen with buying except that if you guess too low your buy order won't go through. I think a nerf to divs would have to accompany this since it would be injecting a lot of money into the economy

>>11726091
no armchairing allowed

>>11725960
>I'd rather have my ideas rejected than ignored.
Same thoughts exactly. We could move on from the timelooped ideas and actually try to think of new ideas that aren't the usual ones.

>>11726091
>>11725296's "Lower-volume coins have more drastic adjustments."
I really think this is a nice idea, maybe just don't buff their divie give with the drastic adjustments so people wouldn't hold them

>>11724718
stop stealing my file names damn you

>>11726122
I will agree with you if this was a completed full game and if it isn't a game made from here

>>11726606
Don't blame me, it's the dev's rules...

>>11726673
The devs hates us...

>>11726673
I bet it's the honk asmr one that is filtered

>>11726091
It's probably one of the secret banned words that Devchama mentioned a while back.

35ps, you have some explaining to do.

>>11727276
Don't doxx me

>>11727276
>Cute girl likes the carpet-muncher
Not 35p but I'm not seeing the problem here.

>>11727276
You can select out the cute girls in any fan base really.

>>11727276
>>11727454
Is this how you spot attention whores?

>>11727454
>kenzokus look like that
God dammit heimin you nigger, share some with a bro

>>11727731
Now why would I do that?

>>11727768
>false flagging as me
I understand that you're jealous but please don't

>>11727276
>non-zero chance that any of the 35p here look like this
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>11720608
>spoiler
>>11705953
>MSI
>C:\>
>>[MSC v.1916 64 bit (AMD64)]
>>11716339
>\Tools\msi
I spent three hours troubleshooting the included version of Tcl/Tk that Python 3.6.x requires in order to compile, which itself refuses to fucking compile because it can't find some stupid HTML documentation that I symlinked to every God damn folder all the way up to the root.
When I nuked everything, extracted the tar again, and just dropped all the Tcl/Tk libs from an already installed older version of Python that had the same tcl-core-8.6.6.0 package on top of it, it all fucking compiled on the first try.
Why Python 3.6.x? Because VS2017 uses Python 3.6.x for some inexplicable reason, but downloads 3.6.6 which is well behind the current security release, 3.6.15, and even the final Win binary, 3.6.8.
To add insult to injury, some guy had the same idea and compiled everything for everyone: https://github.com/adang1345/PythonWindows which of course I only found after getting it all working.

>>11727674
This is how you spot wannabe influencer/models using whatever is trending to boost their numbers

who cares, i wanna fuck her

>>11728105
So are you gonna share?

So, it's about time for a server-side trader...

>>11727276
I honestly thought this was orange woman with a bunch of filters, it's uncanny.

>>11729594
Just post a vtuber cosplay thread for that and just wait 8 posts

https://twitter.com/gawrgura/status/1450788501096566789?s=21
BUY BUY BUY

>>11729762
Nothing turns me on anymore, i consumed too much porn...

>>11729807
have you tried men

>>11729762

>>11729845
I hate femboys

>>11729845
Idk anon, try sucking my dick and I'll tell you how i feel

Gura is the Beats by Dre of cunny.

>>11729942
i said men, not femboys
>>11729958
ok will do

Can we auction details? How will it work, what can you trade, like can you auction items for coins? Is there fees? Limits? Anything to counter money laundering? C'mom devs, share stuff with us before release. You keep doing this, by this i mean releasing shit without players input.

>>11730083
Given past releases I wouldn't be surprised to see it on Fri/Sat this week.

>>11730083
Can we get auction details?**
English is hard

>>11730036
Femboys are mens and no I'm not gonna fuck anything that isn't even remotely feminine
>>11730083
Esl...

>>11730179
what an absolute fucking retard
>calls others ESL
>mens
kys

>>11730592
He probably grew up on ebonics, please andastand

Someone post something worth discussing

>>11732146
So anon, do you like brownies?

>>11732146
How do I opt out of showing up on specific oshi boards
I want to stick to one, but I keep rotating between 3 of them

>>11732236
NTA
They're the most overrated food in existence, they're okay and nothing more.

>>11732280
Don't buy more coins than your oshi? This might seem obvious but you are clearly disabled.

>>11732236
sorry, i don't like chocolate or anything with chocolate
>>11732280
just make sure your oshi is your most owned coin, oshi love

>>11732280
(you)r oshi needs to be your most owned coin, retardchama
>>11732236
nta but yes, been trying to find a recipe that works for ages but I can't seem to make them to my standard

Everyone went straight to food and I'm thinking about pakis

>>11732146
what's the best chammers asmr to cum to?

>>11732389
nasfa/ck/...

>>11732317
>>11732335
How the fuck you don't like brownies? Is your sense of taste corrupted by all the dicks you chocked on?

Okay nasfa/ck/. post your fav food and let us judge you based on that

>>11732582
I may have had bad brownies, but they just weren't that nice. I'd rather just eat chocolate.

>>11732663
pork, bacon and chourizo with black beans and white rice

>>11732663
good ramen

>>11732663
Gyudon

>>11732663
anything made by (you) is my favorite!

>>11733148
post wall- oh hey thanks

>>11696035
I've moved up, problem is (You)

>>11732582
brookies are the best human invention, I will not take comments.

>>11732663
Battered cod with chips, seasoned with salt and vinegar. Maybe a little bit of black pepper depending on how I feel.
Has to be from a fish and chip shop, no substitutes.

have you guys seen my meds?

>>11732663
Lasagna

>>11733431
Kiara, your stream...

>>11733482
Chicken likes lasagna? maybe she is more based than I expected

>>11732867
ها هو

>>11732663
Anyone who can answer this in earnest can't be trusted, my favourite food today is different to what it was last week.

We're gonna die. This is now after thread hours
>>11729762
Gura really isn't erotic for me

>>11732663
Lemon macarons.

>>11732663
クリームシチュー

>>11733668
that all depends on how one defines the concept of "favourite food"
For the sakes of this question, one could for example, answer with the food that they most consistently desire

nasfaq got good taste. All sounds delicious except
>>11734594, i have no clue what a lemon macaron taste like

>>11734820
sweet bakery product. I wouldn't consider it a proper food myself but we have anons with young taste buds here

now post your most hated food nasfa/ck/. maybe some anon will disagree with your taste

>>11734820
A macaron is a macaron, there really is nothing else like them, I have no idea how to explain the taste or texture. Wikipedia will tell you they're meringue based but that's not helpful, I hate meringue but macarons are great.

>>11734937
rice porridge that has been made with söy milk

>>11735021
that's a fucking thing? disgusting

>>11734937
a vast majority of "spicy food" doesn't even taste good and i'm convinced people are all in a massive lying scheme just because of the trait of spicy

>>11734937
Raw tomato outside of a sandwich, and beans. Black, pinto, any beans. Shame since they're a cheap source of protein.

>>11734937
mandatory TOMATO HATE

>>11735163

>>>>>>11735163
weakness disgusts me

I have a confession to make
I've been watching too much Pippa lately while getting burned out with Holo and now that my oshi is on hiatus, I stopped watching holos entirely. Even then, I still play this game for some reason

>>11734937
Seriously, fuck tomatoes.

>>11734937
Was gonna say natto but at least those are still edible and with taste. Anything with bitter gourd or lady's fingers on the other hand, just disgusting and inedible.

>>11735851
based

>>11735821
Its fine anon, i never watch watch streams and im still here

>tomato haters
still dissapointed that i share this thread with tasteless anon

>tomato lovers
still dissapointed that i share this thread with tasteless anon

>>11735851
That image makes me like tomatoes even more.
>>11735853
>doesn't like lady's fingers
How pathetic life must be without tiramisu in it.

>>11735821
I totally feel you. I'm back to anime with a little mix of JP indies and nijiEN. I already also sold all my tapestries except for my oshi's and Marine's
>>11736070
Lady's fingers' texture really is just disgusting in the mouth, I can't even feel any taste in them.

>>11736070
I changed my mind, tiramisu is the best food.

>>11736158
>I already also sold all my tapestries

>>11736158
...people buy used vtuber tapestries?

>>11736303
You could skip the used bit and I'd still be disgusted.

>>11736070
>>11736015
>Likes tomatoes

>not buying used shit for the smell
Ngmi

>>11736303
They actually fetched higher than the price I bought them, specially Coco's since I didn't use her's.

>>11734937
Ima gonna be hated for hating mustard greens, chocolates, and instant ramens

>>11736303
>used
What are you doing with them?

>>11735551
>>11735818
it's not even the "spice" it just tastes not good

>>11736395
>tomatoes haters
give me a better raw then anon.

>>11736449
You're probably just eating bad spicy foods or spicy foods that are just spicy for the sake of being spicy. Those are for masochists

>>11736444
You a health nut or something?

>>11736511
Almost anything. Carrots come to mind first. Mild onions are pretty good raw as well, more than tomatoes. Leeks are good. Cabbage. Watercress. Spinach.
etc etc
FUCK TOMATOES.

>>11736551
>hating mustard greens
>healthy nut
no, they're just disgusting

>>11736622
>raw carrots over tomatoes
why is it not criminal to have this bad taste?

>>11736683
Raw carrots are nice you retard

>>11736709
raw carrots are SHIT
TOMATO LOVE

>>11736683
You need to do some self-reflection, you seem pretty retarded

>>11736683
Raw carrots are nice, tomatoes are nice.
Fuck you and fuck nasfa/ck/.
>>11736622
You have to be over 18 to post here

>>11734820
A good lemon macaron tastes like, well, a lemon-y sweet marzipan confection. Macarons tend to be very sweet, but they have a lovely texture and fruit-based ones often offset their sweetness by acidity of the respective fruit, lemon in this case.
Macarons are notoriously hard to bake and dry out quickly, so I usually use them as a litmus test to assess if a confectionery is good or not.

There is a confectionery back in my hometown which baked absolutely perfect lemon macarons, and ever since I've moved out I tried my best to replicate their style in the ones I bake for myself.

>>11736881
I had an almond, hazelnut and white truffle macaron once. It was unreal.

>>11737101
Hazelnut macarons (which always contain almonds) are top-tier, but I never tried one that would also have white truffle in it. I've only heard that white truffle pairs unusually well with sweet things, like chocolate and such.

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