/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>11631259
ogey

>>11631259
>Somebody who doesn't understand or care about proper vtubing etiquette
This sounds like a recipe to success
Doing what others do won't get you anywhere

>>11631259
she's a cunt but you're preaching to the choir here
even the niggers playing devil's advocate agree with you

>>11631259
You can argue all day which is worse - hololive or nijisanji, but you have to agree that hololive is actually good at scouting talent, unlike niji

>>11631259
>Somebody who doesn't understand or care about proper vtubing etiquette
>Not making it
Meanwhile Veibae pulls better views than most Holomems

>>11631318
works pretty well for hololive lol

>>11631339
Isn't it great I love seeing them tear themselves apart of Nina, karma is hitting these fuckers hard this time.

>>11631350
So good they hired two girls with boyfriends to be idols in one gen.

>>11631259
honestly? I like her. just have to get past her voice filtering me

>>11631351
veibae really is an enigma, she isn't even entertaining. i think people just like her voice, she has a surprisingly big fanbase in asia.

>>11631350
not with council

I for one welcome our russian boomer mom.

>>11631378
>skills and talent are immediately void if you're engaged in any sort of relationship
ogey, unicorn

>>11631259
She definitely doesn’t understand vtuber etiquette with how she talked about Coco’s downfall and then mentioned KSON.

>>11631428
What skill and talent does Fauna have, again?

>>11631423
I must ask - what processes are happening inside your brain to be into findom?

>>11631259
in her defense, I dont think the item
>dont make up dumb rrats in a language your manager cant even understand
was part of the official etiquette. She didnt know.

>>11631428
nobody in en gen2 has any skills except for sana and maybe the rat.

>>11631352
NTA, but Holo fans don't leave the bubble. There ten million chuubas that follow Hololive guidelines and toil away at 2 views.

>>11631409
Vei is entertaining to me. She's pretty good at games and has interesting takes. I understand she's not for most people, but she's unique.

>>11631466
She speaks into a fancy mic

>>11631476
Having your manager not be able to understand the things you say thus not be able to properly manage sounds a bit like a slightly bad idea desu

>>11631518
>she's unique.
She's not she's just another E-thot, she's unique because she has an anime avatar? I didn't know those were exclusive to Vei

>>11631548
She's basically english Mea. I don't expect you to understand. Stick to your bland idols.

>>11631537
I don't even think she has an ASMR mic. Her first ASMR stream was pretty shit and her setup was god awful.

>>11631543
Zulleyy3:
1:21:03 [EN] Man imagine my manager came in to ask how the chat is with russian viewers and I would say: "Great! My chat is in 0s and plusses to me"

>>11631476
I think she might have singlehandedly killed non English/Japanese language streams with that fuck up.

>>11631584
I fully expect you to overeact and think Vei is amazing when she's just a generic E-thot

>>11631584
I can look past Veibae going out of her way to disgust her audience, it's not for me but that's just personal taste. But she genuinely just seems like an unlikeable and entitled person.
https://streamable.com/v92q8o

>>11631630
Cope

>>11631678
maybe you're just humorless, anon?

>>11631423
That's no Russian. That's a Ukr*inian

>>11631630
>Generic E-thot
>Still pulls better average views than the vast majority of Hololive
Oh nonono Holokeks...

peak humour right here. my sub iq holobrain can not comprehend. i kneel to the ethot, who knew they could be so successful?

>>11631894
This but unironically. You didn't like Ren and Stimpy as a kid?

>>11631894
Sounds hot. Veibae unironically appeals to my /d/egen fetish

>>11631584
No, Mea is super moé moé kyun and an idol

>>11631913
NTA, but no

>>11631913
didnt watch it. but peepee poopoo humour was pretty funny when i was like 9

>>11631339
I disagree with OP because he’s retarded. Having different types of VTuber personalities is a bonus.

>Thread about Nina
>Nijiniggers deflect to Veibei
It's all so predictable

>>11632022
Watch out guys the Vshitshow fans are getting uppity

>>11632022
Your fault for hating both. If you kiss Veibae’s ass, you might be forgiven.

>>11631952
peepee poopoo humor is based because it encourages chads like this to make the real good porn

>>11631952
now you're an adult pretending anime girls are your girlfriend

>>11631351
And?
Veibae shit talked about Hololive before she joined Vshojo and she suffered the consecuences later on.
If you think talking about sex is "not following the vtuber etiquette" then you are not any different than the holofags who only know hololive.

>>11632159
Anon, not everyone follows vtubers to fulfill their cuckhold fantasies.

>>11632217
>If you think talking about sex is "not following the vtuber etiquette"
Not what I meant, I meant that she doesn't try to play a character, shows off her real face on occasion and shit-talks other agencies, it's not about the sex talk her behavior is just unprofessional by Japanese vtuber standards

>>11631678
That's a surprising and unusual honesty coming from her.

>>11631476
Does this bitch dont remember even the low-tier reddit review? What the hell is her problem? Apparently she has insider knowledge given she's say shit like this do confidently.

>>11632159
no i dont lol

Okay. I'll keep watching her though.

If it was actually bad scouting you wouldn't even know she existed. Look at people who only know one member of other groups.

>>11631259
You're going to get bored of Nina and go back to shitposting about Kiara by the end of the month.

>>11632315
>lol
You have to be over 18 to post here faggot

>>11631259
Niji hired a Russian and a Spanish speaker. Those are both emerging markets. Ky0resu didn't apply, so that's is the next best thing

>>11632380
They had already moved on to Millie until Nina have new ammo today

>>11632382
cope lol

>>11631259
Bad for you, good for me.
All is right with the world.

>>11632283
Anon, why the fuck you think most people here dislike vshojo outside the sex jokes?
Because outside Mousey, Melody...and to some extent Nyanner, the rest are acting like leechers of the trend with stuff like:
>shows off her real face on occasion
Also, shit talking agencies is something even jp chuubas do. Some Nijis did it and even some Holos before debuting did.

>>11631259
What did she do this time?

>>11632425
Yeah the thing is even if Nina is controversial she's really not a bad hire for the audience she has the potential to and is bringing in, I'd go as far as to say she has more Russian fans than EN ones judging by her numbers today
You can hate her all you want but she's doing her job well

>>11632545
She slapped Enna in front of Riku

>>11631378
Real talk, why the fuck does this even matter? The reality is that you will never meet the voice actor, and you will definitely never smash.

>>11631466
Fauna's voice is cute and she makes my ears tingly with her ASMR, that already makes her better than half of council.

>>11631476
really who would ever believe this rrat that can be proven wrong in just watching one video. really shows just how fucking retarded she is.

>>11632522
>why the fuck you think most people here dislike vshojo outside the sex jokes
Because of Nyanners of course.

>ITT Nijiniggers deflect to Vwhorejo to deflect from their whore going on record to say all entertainment must be political and became an anime girl so she could become a bigger bitch with no backlash.

Not even the basic, white, liberal bitch that is Kiara is this fucking bad. I hope you nijibros figure out how to survive this.

>>11633027
Survive what? If she ends up as bad as schizos on here say there's nine other streamers in EN I can watch instead.

>>11633027
>haaton as dumb as bricks
The fanbase truly reflects their oshi.

>>11633027
Nijisanji has had more controversial members in the past. They'll live. This really only affects hyper-tribalists who can't take Nijisanji being insulted ever.

>>11631476
>Talking smack about another company
>in a language that your manager doesn't know
Holy fucking unprofessional. It's fine for Nijis to talk shit about Nijisanji and fine for Holos to talk shit about Hololive, but the second you get cross-talking it's a fucking problem.
Russian streams are 100% banned. They might even forbid her from speaking any Russian on stream.

>>11633124
>Russian streams are 100% banned
With the amount of superchats and views she got that stream? Not a chance. It's not much by Hololive fan standards but it's enough for managers to take notice.

>>11632566
>You can hate her all you want but she's doing her job well
So good they privated her stream, cause she did it badly. Then lied about why instead of owning up.

Having them say shit in a language managers don't speak working out well.

>>11633208
Her job isn't to get people to like her, it's to bring in money for the company. If it was the former Gundou would've been hired ages ago.

>>11633208
>Then lied about why
Because vtubers never lie and give corpo friendly answers right?

>>11633196
It's not worth it. The slip she made is actionable under Japanese law. Cover could legitimately make a legal claim that a representative of Nijisanji openly and willfully made unprofessional and disparaging remarks about Hololive. She'll guaranteed be on a tighter leash because shit like that is not only unprofessional, but a potentially-severe legal liability to her employers.

>>11633208
Did you watch the stream?

>>11633331
>She'll guaranteed be on a tighter leash
Sure. This doesn't mean Russian streams have to be banned outright though. I'm sure her manager gave her a stern talking to about what's allowed to be discussed. Should she actively go against her bosses wishes then she gets fired or suspended, simple as.

>>11633331
thats choco/haachama, noel's channel vods are full of asmrs

>>11633236
Shit for brains that hurts too. You want videos up with good views advertising your content. Yeah I'm sure having less videos and hours will get her recommended by youtube more. Good job.

>>11633304
And it always hurts trust. Do you think that Matsuri home invader lie helped or hurt her situation?

>>11633343
Not live but got the vod from the general. You gonna cope that it didn't happen?

>>11633437
Well there is nothing for which management cared to begin with. Creating rrats is meaningless in the end.

>>11633612
>Shit for brains that hurts too
You both overestimate the scale of her controversy and underestimate the attention a good old-fashioned 炎上 can bring. There's a reason a lot of YouTubers make their livings on drama.

>>11633761
Man you've one from she is good at her job, to being a drama whore who privates videos is good actually. Nina defenders are sad.

>>11633846
I'm just saying there's a reason you know about her and not a lot of other vtubers. That's all.

>>11633331
*audience laughs*

COCO IS KSON

>>11631259
>implying she was scouted and wasnt the forced mandatory "Hire a SJW" quota inclusion
Why else would they release 4 vtubers for gen 3

>>11631351
>twitch thot that had viewers long before she hopped on the vtubing trend
average vshojo fan

>>11631952
and twitch is full of underaged children, do the math

>>11631259
I have a rrat to share to you guys.
The staff at Niji knew she was gonna go for a final yab and hired her and 3 more just so the drama of her graduating early attracts views and that it doesnt affect the usual 3 releases they usually do.

>>11631259
If that is bad scouting then HoloEN has the worst talent criteria in the medium

>>11631467
I don't know, ask the average vtuber tipper.

>>11633331
>The slip she made is actionable under Japanese law.
what are they gonna do? give her an all expenses paid flight out to japan so they can try her in japanese court?

>>11636012
Huh? Anon, think about who Nina has a contract with

>>11636143
Nina herself isn't in japan. the most they can do is pressure her through 2232, but that's it. and 2232 isn't going to drop one of their best talents of this wave so soon over a dumb just chatting stream.

>>11636194
I agree that this one instance won't lead to much happening. But if this is at all any indicator of her future behaviour then I am sure she'll get shat on by higher ups in some shape or form. Especially if she does more shit that could be seen as throwing shade on other companies, when anykara wants to have good relations with other corps

>>11633124
>Russian streams are 100% banned. They might even forbid her from speaking any Russian on stream.
That would be the most stupidest thing that for managers to do

>>11637410
He’s creating rrats that simply amount to his wishful thinking. He has to keep telling himself endless nonsense, to calm himself down.

>>11636398
I don't think you're very familiar with Nijisanji.

Aint gonna watch her, gonna ignore everything she does. Simple as.
God damn shame such a stellar avatar has been wasted tho

>>11637751
Why would you say that?

>>11631352
the most successful hololivers were the least established fans of it going in

>>11638178
>if this is at all any indicator of her future behaviour then I am sure she'll get shat on by higher ups in some shape or form

>>11631467
Who said anything about giving her money? I just like her mommy kayfabe

>>11638421
Yeah? Has there ever been an EN liver before who could potentially stir so much drama, No. I also can't think of any JP liver badmouthing another company, though I am not someone who pretends like it's normal to hako-oshi all of Nijisani, I have my livers that I regularly watch and that's that. So tell me if Gundou sensei has done something very bad like what I've alluded to

>unmedicated schizophrenics on 4chan think they know better than recruiters that carry out lengthy audition and interview process because they saw a 5 minute TTS video with a bunch of cherry picked clips

>>11639440
Yup. Being on the record saying dumb shit will always follow you.

>>11639655
And you think that the company that made a several thousand dollar investment in her was clueless to all that?

>>11639440
Are you retarded? We all know Vtuber companies rarely do enough background checks and regularly let dangerous people in.

>>11639764
Honestly? Yeah. Niji doesn't strike me as being talented in scouting.

>>11631259
>Nina hates vtubing
>Her only fans here are contrarians who do it because it "le pisses people off :)" who also clearly hate vtubing
I dunno OP, sounds like a match made in heaven

>>11639849
We do, do we?

>>11639764
Yeah because nijisanji didn't have a rapist get in before. She doesn't have any talent either so she's shitty even with politics aside.

This is basically the same situation as Aloe:
>Aloe claims that her friend Chitose graduated from nijisanji due to personal information leak
>Only sources is some insider info
>Official niji version is that she left to pursue music career
>nijiniggers harass Aloe, call her family and send death threats causing her to graduate
Nina:
>Claims that Coco couldn't do full English stream due to hololive restrictions
>No sources
>Official version is that almost 90% of Coco viewers are japanese so there is no point (https://files.catbox.moe/b1t0vy.mp4))
>
Is it time to finally avenge the 5th gen?

>>11641471
*audience laughs*

>>11641471
Hololive fans don't have the chinaman nijinigger mindset to go out and harass someone until they graduate
They just watch streams

>>11641471
If you've been on the internet long enough then you'd know that harassing SJWs is what they want
They live to play the victim card

Leave the tumor in to die

>>11631259
>She won't last.
She's the only decent Russian speaker in Nijisanji and the only one of the major EN vtuber agencies, as long as she has no competition, she will be around for a very long time

>>11641471
No, if Coco know whatever happen here she will stop you too. Coco believe in love not hate that why we love her.

T. Zhang Tatsunoko

>>11631259
>i don't like women who have independent thought because that intimidates me

>>11636194
WTF do Nina even talk about? I so ootl right now cuz i don't understand Russian

>>11643744
Coco and Kson. Also do your reps please.

>>11643830
>Russian free chat
The only thing i understand from this thread is
>Nina talk about Coco not being able to stream English
So what with all this anon having hot takes and making this such big deal?

>>11639764
Elira is part of the scouting team, not to say that's bad but they don't have a dedicated HR department on the EN side.

>>11644092
>So what with all this anon having hot takes and making this such big deal?
Excellent drama fuel, especially against a woman they already don't like with the possibility that they could be a tribalfag as well.

>>11644092
Because Fox mommy hate wagon, Chinks and Falseflaggers will try to wring every (you) out of these rrats as they can.
Also, since she removed the vod, it implies that she's/management's aware of the implication of what she said.

>>11644463
>it implies that she's/management's aware of the implication of what she said.
This. If nothing was wrong, why delete?

>>11631378
Speaking of girls with boyfriends Nina almost let her genmates relationship statuses slip during her superchat catch up stream

Which I really hope would happen because it'd break parasocial Petrafags hearts

>>11644500
Free chats are usually unarchived for good reason. Selen had one which would ruin the feelings of every apex tryhard if they could hear it again.
Nina might not even know how much her loose lips affected a vietnamese picture bulletin boardsshe's not stupid enough to do it on a stream that's archived.

>>11644941
Free chats arent usually unarchived

>>11644941
What did selen say?

Spanish-only stream worked out for Reimu. Don't be surprised to see more Russian only streams or even a Tagalog-only stream from Millie.

>>11636012
Anon, Nijisanji would be the one tried, not Nina. In the extremely unlikely scenario where that would happen, Nijisanji, being a Japanese company, would be sent to trial by Hololive, another Japanese company. Nina wouldn't be anywhere near there because she's Nijisanji, a Japanese company,'s liability as a salaried employee. If Gura comes out tomorrow and slenders Nijisanji's reputation, they wont sue Gura, they'll Cover.

>>11631350
NijiEn Gen 3 sucks. HoloEn Gen 2 sucks. Kiara kinda sucks while the rest of both agencies are solid.

>>11631584
Not yet. She'll be english Mea when she starts talking about her period

We really are stuck in a timeloop aren't we. Seeing this same exact same type of thread months ago but replace Nina with Kiara.
All of that doomposting about how their respective company was gonna fall (somehow) or how she needs to graduate ended up going nowhere and just forgotten

>>11632662
it's about them lying about it to get more money, it's pretty scummy and manipulative. if they were open nobody would complain.

>>11639440
unironically in all my time watching and lurking, yes. I do think so.

>>11644855
Petra is the biggest normalfag there. She even said it many times herself. I don't see how otome games makes her an instant fujo, she is an Asian girl consuming Asian chick shit. She prioritizes real life then stream then anything else after which she hasn't been able to do as much.

>>11648549
Keep telling yourself that honey.

>>11639440
Your next line is "If you think it's so easy, (You) try being a recruiter!"

>>11644092
>>11644326
>>11644463
It is funny watching you nijiniggers try and bury this when even a thread reader would know.
>talk shit about holos not being allowed to do streams in other languages (lie)
>Brings up coco leaving
>Says you can easily find coco's actor
>When chat says kson = coco says yeah that's right
B-B-BUT WHAT'S THE PROBLEM GUYS, playing dumb just makes it clear how worried you are.

>>11655236
You finally dropped the shit talking Kson angle. Literally no one claimed that she didn't beat around there, they were just irritated that you were making other shit up.

>>11631799
It all makes sense now. Only hohols are so obnoxious and money-hungry

>>11655291
If what she said was shit talking is up for debate, it certainly has bad implications for cover and coco. The kindest possible interpretation is she talked about other companies internal working and what someone did after getting let go. Nothing worth hours of defense like you put in. But you fags will twist every which way to pretend nothing happened or if it didn't it isn't that bad. You'll defend as much ad you can in the moment, when at least holos wouldn't want someone who pulls that shit.

https://mega.nz/folder/CotgQbTY#5SJov3Yspp12OsnWHXd23A

>>11656014
what is that link, anon? im not clicking it.

>>11656129
Seems to be the Nina RU stream

Why did she talk shit about Coco? That was such a bad move.

>>11633331
put of the loop, what happened in the russian stream

>>11631351
I think it's her voice. I've tried countless times to figure out why the fuck her voice is like that but couldn't understand. Or even how for that matter

>>11656487
she doxed coco, no joke.

>>11656644
that carries less weight than the air used to say it. What's the big deal?

>>11641471
>Is it time to finally avenge the 5th gen?
That would be making them a favor

>>11656710
>What's the big deal?
i don't know, i personally think doxxing is not a big deal either.

>>11656775
I can understand avoiding 3D doxxes but when it comes to connecting a V-tuber identity to another V-tuber identity, it seems really autistic to act like that needs to stay a secret.

>>11656644
She posted her name and address? Damn Nijisanji isn't pulling the punches now.

>>11656775
It is basic manners, the whole game of vtubers is on screen living as character. You're like someone watching a play, pointing at every actor and shouting who they are. Kson is a more obvious case but not all are. Nina went an extra step though and brought up issues Coco had with cover. Not even getting it right. Pretty sure Kson is even under NDA so she is discussing someone else's drama who can't comment on it.

But hey if you actually believe this why aren't you in the en thread talking about everyone's past lives? Weirdly people get annoyed when Nina's past life is brought up but you clearly could change the tide.

So did anyone archive or save the free chat stream or what

>>11656487
Basically talked shit about Coco, made chat say her alt, and started going off on baseless shit like how Holo doesn't let her or other members do specific language streams like English Only or so.

If this reaches her or Cover chances are they're coming for her ass for possible slander.

>>11632662
>Whats wrong with a woman pretending to be single to bait desperate lonely men into giving her their paychecks
Anon c'mon. It's clearly unethical. If having a bf doesn't matter then they should just be open about it. They never are because they know their simps will stop donating if they money is going towards condoms for chad

>>11656014
God bless you.

>>11655236
That it? This is so btfo

What happened with NijiEN scouting, they did good the first two times.

>>11661458
Ruskiechama that isn't how blown the fuck out is used.

>>11641471
4D chess move would be to leave her alone, so she destroys the fanbase and company from the inside. Support her making Nijisisters seethe and get your popcorn ready

>>11661583
nepotism and the general pool of EN Vtubers not being very good.

>>11631259
> And the obnoxiously tacking "honey" onto the end of every sentence because saying "hi honey" was a big thing months ago just feels like somebody unnaturally pretending to be an anime character.

lmao. what is the difference between that and Pekora "unnaturally" tacking peko at the end of their sentence. both of these are "unnaturally pretending to be an anime character by tacking words onto the end of every sentence.

>>11663166
The peko is cute

>>11663166
No but you see, it's fine when japanese girls do that

>>11657921
Is there a direct translation to back this?
The stream is gone so I imagine that's a lot more difficult.

>>11663822
the VOD was posted yesterday and again earlier in this thread and no one has bothered actually just translating what she said

>>11663788
This but unironically.

>>11664077
I'm gonna wait for a translation then so it's not another rrat with an agenda.

>>11662900
But who did Nina/monkey already know in Niji that she'd get in by nepotism? From a cursory glance at her previous circles I don't see much overlap with the EN chubba scene.

As for the pool of EN vtubers not being very good, I don't know. At least from the handful of startup companies that are reguarly discussed here, I could name around half a dozen of standout girls who are good enough that you can easily imagine them in a bigger company like Niji or even Hololive (but of course to be fair, you could also turn this argument around, the recent NijiEN waves and HoloCouncil have been overall so underwhelming, that they are outshined talent-wise by the top girls of smaller companies). And there are also some high quality indies out there. Of course, your point holds in general, (like with everything) most EN chubas are mediocre at best, trash at worst, but there's still some diamonds in the rough out there, so it's more a matter of the scouting departments of Niji/Holo seemingly losing their edge and becoming complacent over time.

Even if what she said is true to some extent, what makes her think she's suitable for comparing two different agencies? It's only been a week since she debuted.

At least do it in private like Aloe.

>>11663166
nta, but look up "gobi". Adding shit onto your sentences is an established way to signify your character type in the japanese language, and has been used (therefore, people are used to it) in anime etc. for decades.
So yeah, the answer kinda boils down to "it's ok when japan does it", or rather, because quirks like this aren't as prevalent in the english language / western culture, it's kinda grating and cringe for most people when they hear something like this, that maybe works in japanese, but you aren't used to hearing it in english, therefore your first reaction tends to be a more negative one (for example, you feel that it is overly put-on and annoyingly fake as fuck).

>>11656644
and Zero is Lelouch

>>11647118
just saying, lots of fans from Millie's past avatar (magic girl grandma) are pretty behaved, so at most we could expect a tag-allowed stream

>>11665041
Go refer to yourself in third person in front of normalfag japanese, or add CHAMA onto your sentences, and see if they think it's normal

>>11665041
That's probably why Dattebayo was fine for Japanese Naruto but "Believe it" didn't translate well at all in English.

To the point where he had to stop saying it after a while in the dub.

>nijiniggers are now fine with doxxing vtubers

opening the floodgates for EN was a mistake

>>11631351
Huh I didn't know that. Good for her I guess?

I only watch Hololive, so I don't really know or care about what goes on outside of Hololive's immediate circle lmao.

>>11631584
Mea is disgusting but she's not a cunt, is she?

>>11665630
If anything, she's a lot more like Gundou.

>>11638079
And artist. I fucking love so-bin

>>11665752
What's Gundou like?

>>11665493
>now

>>11665375
chama isnt gobi you dumb retard. Chama is like a southern lady calling someone a sweetheart. People use it here to be sarcastic and call others a retard.

>>11641471
It's not really the same.
Aloe at least had some personal connection to the people/stuff she was talking about, even though it may be biased/misrepresented.
Nina's claim that Coco couldn't do full english streams (notwithstanding that even this claim is debatable at best, and says more about her not knowing what she's talking about) due to hololive restrictions is based on.... what?
Does she have insider knowledge or personal connections? Obviously not, she's a new NijiEN, why would she have insights into old HoloJP management? So what else is she basing this on, hearsay and rrats she picked up from discussions on the interwebs somewhere? First of all, was "Coco can't do english streams due to Cover rules" ever a big talking point, not really (you'd have more of a point claiming that during/after the chinkpocalypse, Coco was depushed and sequestered off from the rest of the girls, certainly HoloEN, right up until her graduation, but that of course would be a more nuanced discussion this know-nothing is not equipped to have, and it would touch on the chink-subject which their company probably wants to avoid), and second of all, it just reflects poorly on your professionalism and character overall that you'd just blurt out unsubstantiated rrats about the other company on stream, for what, just to make yourself look better? And trying to be cute about it "tee hee, I'll hide it in my russian stream, management doesn't understand it anyway, so I'm free to talk shit", well, one bonk later and that trick doesn't fly anymore, and you're forced to private your stream to damage-control (can't even admit in your tweet what the real reason for the takedown was, heh).

If you want to compare it, you could rather point to the Veibae situation:
Both are stupid whores that talk unsubstantiated shit about Hololive management rules and practices they know nothing about.

>>11665630
She is, left friendship with Aqua because she (Mea) likes streaming on bilibili

>>11665248
Mf, i still dind't finished watching code geass

>>11665864
The nice way I can describe her is polarizing.

The blunt way to describe her is arguably the most hated Nijimember.
She's very abrasive, blunt and vulgar so naturally, she's gonna have rrats made up about her all the time.
How many of them are true is up for you to decide.

>>11665975
This. Bitch has absolutely no way of knowing what went on behind the scenes during that time, she's just as credible as the schizos here spreading rrats and circlejerking on them. It shows a lot about her character that she decided to talk about it in a language her manager couldn't speak. I guess Nijisanji shotgun blasting waves has been a mistake after all.

>>11631259
bitch is spamming "honey" every goddamn second that listening to her becomes unbearable.
i want to stay for the mommy voice for real but she just comes off as completely fake. why does she even keep doing such an obvious gimmick?

>>11666487
If you want a mommy voice, go to kronii.

>>11631518
>but she's unique
She's literally just an e-slut with an anime avatar, don't kid yourself veikek

>>11633437
Are you retarded? Why would management take such a big risk again?

>>11661649
Don't care, i thought she shit talk "Coco" but its just she just talk about "restrict holo" and why make such big deal out of Coco = kson? I thought holofag love Hololive historian "Its a public information so Its not doxxing" this is what i read on every holofag that defend him on yt

>>11661649
Don't care, i thought she shit talk "Coco" but its just talk about "restrict holo" had, and why make such big deal out of Coco = kson? I thought holofag love Hololive historian "Its a public information so Its not doxxing" this is what i read on every holofag that defend him on yt

>>11666661
There is already a chance she'll pull bad shit in English stream. Russian streams posed a risk by being untranslated, but now it is clear people will translate. You can guarantee they'll all be recorded live now too cause drama whores expect a fuck up. So there is no more safety and the same level of risk as English.

The real problem is if she doesn't know boundaries or likes to stir shit.

>>11631259
She is just bad. I think she fully deserved all the hate she gets.

>>11666586
>e-slut with an anime avatar
True, but a she's still a unique one

>>11667339
Did she actually get hate? Or is it just a bunch of schizos on 4chan seething? If she gets hate on normie Twitter then sure, getting hate here means absolutely nothing.

>>11667682
It's schizos here palying telephone with what she said, again.

So no one hear knows Russian or translated what she said besides the acknowledging kson stuff?

>>11667829
> No one hear
and somebody needs to learn how to speak English apparently.

>>11651895
Basically. The fact that her boyfriend, family and friends all watch her stream makes her really hate anyone trying to lewd her. That's why she keeps talking about how she only likes 2D boys or goes apeshit over eye emojis and dad tier jokes

>>11663166
This. They're all fake as fuck, some just do it more convincingly

Nina's shtick is super unpolished and cringe though, I prefer it when she's a few wines deep and is talking about things she likes rather than her horrible acting and pandering

>>11667864
Listen I just woke up please understand.

>>11666425
Niji management is kind of in a bad spot. NijiEn is still in its infancy and as good as Selen is, shes not a megastar Chuuba that can hard carry a branch by herself (e.g. Kuzuha or Mito), at best shes like peak Hana from NijiID. If they keep the fox then sure they're tempting fate, hoping that she doesn't fuck up from now on. But it would be worse for them if they start restricting her more since stubborn people like Nina are more likely to rebel and find loopholes around said restrictions, something Coco was famous for. Graduation is also out of the question since it would all but kill enthusiasm for Wave 3 like it did Holo Gen 5, the Tsunderia gen that Rosemi was a part of, or for a more extreme example MyHoloTV after they graduated an entire Gen. At best, the only thing they can hope for is that a stern talking to is enough to get her to be more professional.

>>11668032
She is just going to get bonked about it like what they did to Finana. When it's their jobs, persona, and connections at stake they will straighten out.

>>11641471
Anyone else got reminded of Veibae's rant about hololive?
https://files.catbox.moe/yif1bp.mp4

>>11668158
it's so fucking retarded in the same way that i'm almost convinced that her trope is being a fucking liability

>>11668032
No one is talking about it at all outside of 4chan (which basically means nothing) and we still have no idea what she said exactly.
As things stand right now, no one is getting graduated and this is a whole load of nothing.

>>11668253
>this is a whole load of nothing
Exactly, but for people that hate her, it’s all they have to grasp onto.

>>11667829
Isn't doxxing enough to draw some conclusions? Also words like "actress" and "character" applied to another vtuber is just bad manners. Really bad manners.

>>11668253
Someone made a thread on reddit, but it only has like 29 comments.

>>11668432
>Reddit
>Knowing what happens on there

>>11668253
Playing devil's advocate. Without actual video evidence, nothing can be disproven. One side protects their talent, the other attacks based on perceived previous slights (>>11636263)

>>11663166
>inge though, I prefer it w
Peko doesn't seem forced, it incorporates well with the rest of the character. It helps because she's speaking Japanese, make her speak English and the peko thing would become irritating real fast.

>>11668494
It’s more like those previous slights cause them to latch onto anything new in hopes of canceling her. But she’s obviously not getting canceled by this place, as that in itself would lead to tremendous controversy.

>>11631259
Niji always worked like that anon, much more than for the other safe hires
Getting a bit of everything even when it sounds completely stupid, and some will work and get a new niche
Of course sometimes it's a total fail like here but you can't always win

>>11668253
It's more because she privated it immediately (kudos to Niji management for being on top of this) before it could spread further, not to mention it being in RU helps make it less accesible. I'm pretty sure that management, as lax as they tend to be, are still very in-tune with common vtuber etiquette and this whole thing still probably gave them a slight headache.

>>11668586
>that in itself would lead to tremendous controversy
Such as? Pretty sure if this hellhole does cancel her, the only controversy would be if she or some schizos pointed at this place. Otherwise, corpos have ways of presenting stuff. Though, if the first happens, she'll look like a schizo herself

>>11668158
Oh, forgot about this in case you don't wanna watch the catbox.
The Transcript
"I actually... I hate that. Like, that side of Hololive that roleplays. Because it like, when you know, about all like the uhm... background stuff, that they have to do just to be in Hololive and how they have to be roleplaying it's like spooky. Hololive personalities don't own their model. They don't have any decision making when it comes to how they look like. They don't own their YouTube or their social media. If they get fired, they lose everything. Yeah, it's called graduation, it's so fucked up, dude! Fuck that shit! You get graduation into homelessness that's so fucked! [reads comment: They promote their talents as idols.] Yeah, fuck, then they get doxed and shit. I dunno I hate it. I like, I like the uh, streamers, I think. I don't know, I don't know like what I like. I like the roleplay but the whole idol culture is so messed up. It's hard for me to watch Hololive a little bit. It feels really scripted, no? Yeah I think, I think that they just have to stay in roleplay. They literally support a terrible company. After the actual idols that have left Hololive talked about it, and the way that they're treated... Keep defending it dude."
-Veibae

>>11668692
This transcript needs to go around every once in a while so lazy retards know why so many /here/ aren't big fans of Vei.

>>11668494
Guess no one on /vt/ speaks Russian, or the antis actually don't care enough to check the vod that was uploaded. The only "evidence" is that screenshot of a single translation in chat, but that could easily be a mistranslation. It's basically a rrat about her making a rrat, but completely based on hearsay, the ultimate rrat.

>>11668692
To Veis credit, she learned to shut her mouth after it became apparent that her retarded ass was causing her friends opportunties to collab with Hololive. Still too stubborn to actually apologize (standard western woman behavior) but not making things worse is better than nothing.

>>11668158
I don't watch Veibae but I don't see what's so wrong in what she said.
> Hololive feels fake
It does
> Fuck idol culture
True
> Graduation is a cringe term
True
> Talents don't own anything (model, social media, etc). If they leave, they lose it all true
True, they lose everything besides the fans who will transfer to their roommate channel.

I think the only thing she went overboard with is how Cover doesn't treat the talents well, which to be fair is kind of bullshit. I think Cover being a business does what a business needs to do all whilst trying to be fair to all their talents. They're not perfect by any means but I doubt they harass or bully the talents.

>>11668692
>After the actual idols that have left Hololive talked about it, and the way that they're treated... Keep defending it dude

Who the fuck did she talk to with her inability to speak Japanese, Hitomi Chris? Aloe? Lol. This is the main part that got people upset, because she just outright fucking lied.

>>11668860
>the antis actually don't care enough to check the vod that was uploaded
You really think they even know that the vod was reuploaded?

>>11668928
She has some of the most trusted sources dude.

>>11668888
The funny thing us how anons either don't know or ignore the yab festivals of the former giants. Both holo and niji thrived because the other companies fucked up big time.

>>11668888
Everything you just posted is invalid because she admits she auditioned for Hololive. Which is why she is getting called out in the first place

>>11668888
> Hololive feels fake
As a Hoshiyomi, I resent anyone who says this cause it feels like they're saying the journey and all the hardwork that Comet put in was fake hussle.

>>11669000

>>11668932
It’s not reupload

>>11669124
Where is it then?

>>11668888
>They literally support a terrible company
I just don't know what to do for you if you don't understand how this would kill opportunities for the brand she represents. And how absolutely effortless a insincere apology would be. Nice digits for a fag though.

>>11669143
Go back in time and download it, she deleted the stream in less than 40 minutes

>>11669143
>>11656014
>>11669124

>>11668932
>>11669124
I meant on here, some anon posted a mega file yesterday, but after that it's been absolutely crickets. That leads me to believe either no one here knows good enough Russian, or it was an absolute nothing burger.

>>11669199
>or it was an absolute nothing burger.
It’s nothing, so people rely on rrats that amount to wishful thinking on their part.

>>11669199
There is l i t t e r a l l y people in the chat doing live translations of EVERYTHING she is saying and you still say "no proof"

>>11669247
Yeah but anon thats just random people they could be saying anything, my mommy would never l-
>I am so sorry darlings, the sound got messed up on the RUSSIAN FREE CHAT VOD and I have to private it.
>I am sorry for anyone who could not watch it LIVE, let's pretend it was the PILOT/Episode 0 ;)
So what if she lied about the reason why she deleted the stream? So what if she posted it in the community tab in youtube instead of twitter so that the least amount of people see it? I still cum after she jerks me off and calls me a good boy

>>11669247
I can go in chat and type literally anything with an [EN] prepended, how's that proof of shit?

>>11669365
Despite what the SJW whore wants you to believe, the audio is perfectly fine and you can clearly hear everything she is saying
https://mega.nz/folder/CotgQbTY#5SJov3Yspp12OsnWHXd23A

>>11669247
Just like how antis won't believe anything, ninafags are also deluded. Unless someone actually does a subbed clip (and makes a torrent of the original, which I assume already exists because ruskies) proving or disproving, and even then, the other side won't believe it.

>>11668888
>Talents don't own anything (model, social media, etc). If they leave, they lose it all true
Yes and no. Since hololive is used as an example I will say Suisei is in a position she owns ONE of her models, but not her updated one. So it depends on how you're scouted and if you ask to use your own. Nijisanji has a pool of models to use or you get one commissioned to fit you (as in their in house art and rigger will make a new one.)
> how Cover doesn't treat the talents well
Agreed, it was bs and just her being salty. Cover literally bought Subaru a house and housed the other girls in nearby apartments so they didn't have to constantly commute to the office for 3D/Recordings.

>>11634771
She didn't. She debuted as a vtuber in April of last year and was a ~200 viewer average before then.

>>11669433
>SJW whore
Too obvious anon it's not 2014 anymore

>>11669839
>introduction
https://files.catbox.moe/vscr1u.mp3
>educational content
https://files.catbox.moe/yf3lmt.mp3
>i was the annoying lisa
https://files.catbox.moe/en7jfu.mp3
>you need to have a defined stance
https://files.catbox.moe/vv12qc.mp3
>gillette ad
https://files.catbox.moe/mnida9.mp3
>i support streamers
https://files.catbox.moe/3olzi2.mp3
>it's something that affects us all
https://files.catbox.moe/17bwy1.mp3
>it didn't do be like it is
https://files.catbox.moe/k7n4sr.mp3
>just playing the game
https://files.catbox.moe/h7vd3q.mp3

You are welcome to prove me wrong.

>>11669858
>>you need to have a defined stance
>ninafags defend this
I've said it before. If you're gonna be a game sstreamer, be a game streamer, don't go parading "politics" as if your opinion matters. Besides, there are actual political streamers and even the rare polituber for that.

Oh no, Nina doing a French only stream now! Oh no!

>>11669858
Now we watch:
>>11669839
Disappear because he's a tier 3 Vei simp.

>>11669858
Something to keep in mind here, these are from up until 2 months ago.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SzA1LFMgBsY

>>11669953
Even Vei has the time excuse, Nina not so much.

>>11669188
Okay but the question now is what is she saying exactly?
There has to be at least one person here who's russian.

>>11668928
The most likely explanation is that she either made it up, or if you want to be more charitable, probably mixed up several second-hand information snippets floating around and misinterpreted/misremembered shit, and given that she's not the most eloquent person to begin with, the phrasing of where she got her ideas from is as bad as the ideas themselves.
"After the actual idols that have left Hololive talked about it" - sounds like the ones that left were the "actual idols" (who, Chris? Aloe? lol), and the ones that remain aren't idols, or what? Also, none of the ones that left ever really talked about their Holo experience publicly, so again, what is Vei talking about? Also note how she doesn't explicitly say that SHE had talked to (ex-)Holo talents directly (which again, would make one question, who? how?), even though most anons probably took it that way.
But let's entertain that thought for a while, because while yes obviously Vei couldn't have spoken to Chris or Aloe, there's also a little fun tangential rrat going around that it was the chink judas Artia who was feeding Vei some bullshit. It's mostly circumstantial (Artia was in Hololive, had an axe to grind, and instead of the aforementioned jp talents can speak english to talk with Vei, and she was on twitch as well), and you'd have to go back and check if the timelines match up (original dates of Vei's rant vs the chinkpocalypse), but it's just funny to think about, that if Vei wasn't just talking out of her ass completely (she most likely was), her "inside information source" of how terribul bad Cover is was the self-interested zhang traitor.

>>11656014
>>11669433
I wonder if some RU anon will clip whenever she supposedly talked about Coco to either put an end to this retarded topic or legitimize it.

>>11670106
Assuming Vei wasn't malicious, she was just a retard that conflated hololive, the idol industry, gamebu and black companies into one.

>>11670108
Just post the fragment and I will translate it.

>>11669247
People have only referenced one translation of one sentence from chat and no one knows how accurate it actually is.
>>11670108
Most of the Russian clips aren't translated into English so good luck.

>>11670204
As I said, no idea because nobody speaks ruski and most didn't even catch the thing live so there's not even a sense of when the timestamp would be.
>watching nijiEN
Sorry, RU anon.

>>11670106
I believe in this rrat.

>>11670108
Ok, give me timecodes and i will.

>>11670204
Or at least approximate time, where should i look?

>>11670279
it starts around 33:20

>>11670297
Ok, wait till i download video.

Now this is interesting, i hope the ruski is unbiased though.

Wonder if the RU anon or anyone else has a seedbox so it can be Nyaa'd.

>Kuroboshi who's shown no proof of ever rigging before did a better job rigging than umiushit

How was this fucker hired?

>>11670140
Malice would necessitate intent or motive, and I can't imagine what she'd have against Hololive in particular (aside maybe just plain ol jealousy? That'd be a dumb reason, but then again she seems like a dumb girl in general), so I'm leaning towards "she's just a stupid girl talking out of her ass" (it's not like it wouldn't also fit with modern females in general, where low knowledge of a subject is no hindrance to high outspokenness on a subject, and given how much of her rant has a woke-ish argument tint (poor widdle exploited female talents vs big bad restrictive company), she probably felt it a profitable matter to grandstand on), where like you said she just jumbled everything bad she ever heard from the industry into one big ball of stupid.
(still, the secondary theory that it was actually Artia who was feeding her this bullshit, for nefarious reasons, is just more funny)

ogey, found it. It's around 30 min mark. I will post text transaltion when i'm done.

>>11670430
There is only so much bullshit he could pull, as if he writes something random as the chat spams kson it'd be pretty obvious. It can be sanitised or made to sound worse but the gist can't be avoided.

>>11670519
the archived stream is already up there

>>11670583
Why do you think the holofags bitch about their company?
https://files.catbox.moe/o9wj2s.mp3

>>11642267
You underestimated Nijidramafags and how easy it is for nijiniggers to cancel Niji livers from time to time, she'll be fired in no time

>>11670714
>livers
t. falseflagging nijifag

>>11670642
It's barely downloading, anon. Mega blocked me too.

>>11670782
I hope that, if anyone managed to download it, has the speed to upload it to nyaa.
t. shit world internet

>>11670782
I'll keep seeding for a couple more hours then.

>>11670602
>download quota
very funny. Some other place i can download it from?
Maybe other ruski will translate it then.

>>11670863
mega allows you to preview video files anon, next time try not to download the whole thing right of the bat.

>>11670714
Companies would dislike the views of those who want to cancel Nina, more than Nina’s own views which are more socially acceptable. There would be more controversy if Nina was forced out, than it would be for her to continue to piss off a few here.

>>11670863
Nyaa if some anon who downloaded it (or the one who uploaded it to MEGA) has the speed. Or even the RU site one.

>>11670910
Ever heard of the curious case of Moarin? A ragtag of gooks surfed the trackrecord of one of the KR livers, attacked her for it, and successfully cancelled her from NijiKR. Nina will replicate it for EN, the first sign was https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BiiDS5SgP4 then there's this yab and soon enough her mistakes will pile up and more will force her to get fired from Niji unless Niji wants to repeat the same mistake that causes KR to be a superbly notorious brand among gooks even till now. I don't think Niji's that stupid to let their hardwork to buiid their brand in EN to be tarnished like what happened in KR

>>11656014
At 34:23 the chat seems to panic lol.

>>11670858
With current speed it will take like an hour or so.

>Ever heard of the curious case of Moarin? A ragtag of gooks surfed the trackrecord of one of the KR livers, attacked her for it, and successfully cancelled her from NijiKR. Nina will replicate it for EN, the first sign was https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BiiDS5SgP4 [Embed] then there's this yab and soon enough her mistakes will pile up and more will force her to get fired from Niji unless Niji wants to repeat the same mistake that causes KR to be a superbly notorious brand among gooks even till now. I don't think Niji's that stupid to let their hardwork to buiid their brand in EN to be tarnished like what happened in KR

>>11671363
coalchama...

>>11671363
That was some of your weaker ones

>>11671363
How well would he suck dick?

>>11671239
I would say in the West, a situation of the politically Right attempting to cancel the politically Left, the odds of success are very low, and tied to even more controversy. It doesn’t mean it cannot happen, but rather it’s more rare and comes with a much greater cost to bear.

>>11631259
Still gonna watch and donate to her

>>11671451
>Still gonna watch
No one is stopping you really but
>donate to her
why?

>>Still gonna watch
>No one is stopping you really but
>>donate to her
>why?

>>11671499
Because I like her and like hearing her call me honey

>>11671659
That's like, your opinion, man, but you do you. Good luck.

>>11671499
>why?
Not the same anon, but Nina’s a god that deserves your worship. I’m not trying to provoke you...

>>11671659
You do you, personally i think the pandering is a bit too early to justify donating for it.
>>11671728
Yabs aside, the same point as above still stands, at least for me.

>>11671659
That's sad af anon

Around 70% now, SOON (tm).

>>11671848
I envy PROfags.

>>11671925
From nyaa...

>>11671977
am retard
https://files.catbox.moe/aacf3a.mp3

Ogey, done. I will write it in russian first, and then translate to the best of my ability.

>>11671786
Why are you Selentards always trying to pick a fight?

>>11672081

>>11669451
>Cover literally bought Subaru a house and housed the other girls in nearby apartments so they didn't have to constantly commute to the office for 3D/Recordings.
Did they actually do it? If so based. How can't imagine how much Subaru is raking in for Cover to just buy her a fucking house up front.

>>11672306
If you believe the stories, she has some heart condition, she was hit by a car and her previous house burned down. Holofags say all the girls (and even the guys) have similar stories.

>>11672381
Yagoo's house of broken girls aren't just a meme

>>11672381
No, I mean, did they actually buy her a house? That's based.

>>11672042
Note: it seems she rarely uses russian, struggles to find fitting words.

~31:38
-Я вижy cкoлькo мнoгo людeй pyccкoгoвopящих имeют интepec к витyбepaм. Я этo вижy. Я этo cкaзaлa и пpипoднecлa мoeй кoмпaнии, oни мнe paзpeшлили cдeлaть этoт cтpим. Haдeюcь бyдyт дaльшe мнe paзpeшaть дeлaть тaкиe пpoeкты. Я нe вceгдa cмoгy дeлaть пpoeкты пo-pyccки. Bcпoмнитe: Кoкo из хoлoлaйвa, дa? Oнa хoть и дeлaлa вeщи пo-aнглийcки, oнa нe мoглa дeлaть пoлнocтью aнглийcкиe cтpимы кaк я дeлaю ceйчac пoлy-pyccкий cтpим. У мeня, нaмнoгo бoльшe мнe дaли, aaa, кaк этo cкaзaть? Пpaв. Ha тaкoe. Ho, пoжaлyйcтa, пoвepьтe мнe, чтo я бyдy дaльшe гoвopить кoмпaнии, я бyдy дaльшe пpeпoднocить клипы кoтopыe вы дeлaeтe, я бyдy дaльшe им пoкaзывaть cкoлькo y нac кoммeнтapиeв, и cкoлькo людeй пpихoдят нa pyccкиe, aaa pyccкoгoвopящиe cтpимы, извинитe, и пpocтo пoвepьтe, дaжe ecли я нe вceгдa (she misspeaks here) aхaхaхa cмoгy, cмoгy, cмoгy, извинитe, paзгoвapивaть пo-pyccки нa cтpимaх или дeлaть pyccкиe cтpимы, я бyдy дaльшe пpocить кoмпaнию и пoкaзывaть кoмпaнии чтo ecть интepec нa тaкoe. Лaднo?
~33:10

>>11672469
- I am Vihykoko Multi PycccCeading people have intermitted to vitylebepa. I am Vihy. I am a tableware and a mouse's mouse, we have a look at this. Huely Bydyt Malse. I don't have a dwell of PPO-Pycca. BCPUMNIT: KOCO of HELLES, DA? ONA HOW AND MEDIA FEES PO-AGLILY, ONA NE MOUGLA DELATING ANNOUNCE AGLILY SKIMA CAК I am a labec.e. Meal, Namnogo Mad, AAA, how to make it? PPA. HA Takoe. Ho, pozhalyycta, povepte unto me, chto I bydy dalshe govopit kompanii I bydy dalshe ppepodnocit clips kotopye you delaete I bydy dalshe them pokazyvat ckolko y nac kommentapiev and ckolko lyudey ppihodyat nA pycckie, aaa pycckogovopyaschie ctpimy, izvinite and ppocto povepte, I dazhe if ye ne vcegda (she misspeaks here) ahahaha cmogy, cmogy, cmogy, izvinite, pazgovapivat Po-English nA ctpimah or delat pycckie ctpimy I bydy dalshe ppocit kompaniyu and pokazyvat kompanii chto ect intepec nA takoe. LED?

https://files.catbox.moe/f3m0y1.mp4
I have no idea where to start trimming but here you go ruskis.

>>11672469
What about the thing where somesay tshe basically pointed at k***'s chat?

>>11672469
Don't understand all of that, but yeah the first bit is saying holo can't do full different language streams. So yeah people were being honest it seems.

>>11672506
Ah, so it's like that, huh.

>>11672469
So the rrats were true lmao

>>11672613
There's still the one where some say she soft-doxxed Coco.

>>11666018
Worse spoiler ever. The anime is still awesome. Keep watching it.

>>11631678
>https://streamable.com/v92q8o
What a whore

>>11672642
2:21 to 2:27 in >>11672511 I don't know russian but it sounds like she's talking about coco's actress.

>>11672539
Wait, i am making a clip of it right now

>>11672469
I see how many ru-speaking people are interested in vtubers. I see it. I told my company about it, they allowed me to make this stream. I hope they will allow me to do these projects in future. I'll not be able to make projects in russian all the time. *Remember: Coco from hololive, yes? Despite her doing things in english, she couldn't make 100%-english streams like I doing half-russian now. They gave me much more, uhh, how do you say it? Rights. For this.* But please, believe me, i will continue to talk (about this) to company, i will continue to show them clips that you doing, i will continue to show them how many commentaries, how many people come to russian, uhhh, russian-speaking (streams in russian) streams, sorry, just believe, even if i'm not always (yaddayadda), sorry, speak english on stream, or make russian streams, i will continue to ask (my) company, show them that interest to those exists. Okay?

>>11672786
Done. If something else interests you, tell me timecode. And what to look for.

What she says at ~32 minutes, word for word, и нe cмeйтe aнглoблядки мнe пoтoм гoвopить, чтo я чтo-тo нe тaк пepeвёл или пpoпycтил

N: Remember, Coco from Hololive, even though she did things in English, she couldn't do full English streams like the half-Russian (sic) stream I'm doing now. I have...I was given way more rights to do this, but please believe me that I continue to talk to the company, that I will continue to show the clips that you make, I continue to show how many comments and how many people come to watch the Russian streams...the Russian-language streams, sorry [you anglos wouldn't get it but "Russian" in regards to the country, the people and the language doesn't mean the same thing] and...just trust me, even if I can't always [she misspeaks "can"] *laughs*...can, can can, sorry, even if I can't always talk in Russian on streams or do Russian streams, I will keep asking the company and showing the company that there is an interest in this. So I hope you understand that if you see somewhere in the comments or people will be asking "please, please, please, I want more", I can't always do this, and please give them Coco as an example, that Coco too...she did such half-English streams sometimes, but she couldn't even do a fully English stream, even though her command of English is excellent. So, yeah. I'll keep showing them, I'll keep telling them. I really want them to allow me to make this stream more often than once a month. All of this...I don't know if we have a right to talk about this, Coco left Hololive...but the actress who play...the actress, or you could say the vocal actress [she means voice actress] who plays her, she still makes streams and it's very easy to find her. It's very easy...oh, yeah, some people [in the chat] already said it, I'm not sure if I can talk about this, but yeah...you can find her, she still makes, actually just recently she debuted her new character, she was very beatiful. Well, alright, so...well, alright...I think I said everything I wanted to say, now we will read, we will answer, we will watch, we will do everything. My God I have four and a half hours left to my next stream.

That's it unless she goes back into it at some later point. If the English seems wooden to you it's because her Russian is just as wooden, not because I don't know your mutt language. I have no horse in this race, I'm a 2019 holofag and I've watched Coco from day one. I'm just sick and tired of newtards trying to find some fucking angle to bring her back in to this. Nowhere does she talk shit about her and nowhere does she say "kson". She seems ignorant about what really was going on with Coco and Hololive but so are the rest of you nijinigs, hell, the shit she said is nowhere near as disrespectful as what that vshit Vei said. This is yet another nothingburger.
Stalin not executing Mao when he could was a bigger mistake than him sending my grandpa to Siberia.

>>11672786
This is so ridiculously unprofessional.

>>11632284
>surprising
One thing I can give Vei is that she never hides her whoreness. I dislike it, but I can't fault her honesty about it. And as I've mentioned before, she's basically a female anon (not a femanon, different things).

>>11672855
>nowhere does she say "kson"
She doesn't, you're right.
>Coco left Hololive...but the actress who play...the actress, or you could say the vocal actress [she means voice actress] who plays her, she still makes streams and it's very easy to find her. It's very easy...oh, yeah, some people [in the chat] already said it
>I'm not sure if I can talk about this, but yeah...you can find her
But the rrat was true, in a way.

>>11672859
I'm not professional, kek.
>>11672855
this one is better and full

>>11672855
Well, considering that what the non-schizos were claiming was that she had pointed at Coco's new avatar, then it IS true.

>>11636194
>2232
ににさんに?

>>11672855
Anon this is exactly what people accused her of and you fags denied. Shits on hololive, brings up coco, says you can find her again, says yeah to chat spamming kson which you see on screen

Did you not read the thread? Go on reply to those posts disproving them

This seems incredibly unprofessional, especially from a corpo chuuba.

>>11673076
>Shits on hololive
Why are holofans so fragile on behalf of a corp

Ok, so here's the clip of that moment:
https://files.catbox.moe/oyt8wv.mp4

What she says in russian:
Bcё чтo... эм... я нe знaю, ecли мы имeeм пpaвo гoвopить пpo этo, нo... Кoкo yшлa из хoлoлaйвa, нo... эм... aктpиca, кoтopaя игpaeт... aктpиca или мoжнo.. вoкaльнaя aктpиca, кoтopaя eё игpaeт, oнa вcё eщё дeлaeт cтpимы и eё мoжнo нaйти oчeнь лeгкo. Eё мoжнo нaйти oчeнь лeгкo... a, дa, нeкoтopыe люди yжe cкaзaли. Я нe yвepeнa, ecли мoжнo мнe o тaкoм гoвopить, нo дa. Eё мoжнo нaйти, oнa вcё eщё вcё дeлaeт. Oнa кcтaти нeдaвнo дeбют cвoй нoвый пepcoнaж былa. Oчeнь кpacивый.

Translation:
Anything that... um... I don't know if we're allowed to talk about it, but... Coco left hololive but... um... the actress who plays... the actress or maybe... the VOCAL actress who plays her, she still does the streams and she can be found very easily. She can be found very easily... ah, yeah, some people in chat already said. I'm not sure, if am allowed to talk about it, but yes. She can be found, she's still doing everything. She recently debuted with her new character, by the way. It's very beautiful.

>>11673133
Why are you so fragile on behalf of a loose lipped whore?

>>11673076
People were saying she shit talked coco and doxxed her.

>>11673190
No one said she shit talked Coco, they said she shit talked Holo by implying they never let her do English streams (false)

>>11673190
You guys really do try and flip the script every 5 minutes. Try that one next thread as it might actually work.

There's actual undeleted dox itt and hololive fans are seriously trying to frame this as mentioning one of the most publicized reincarnations ever as doxxing another talent

>>11673159
So she said nice things about Kson. I'm not as mad before but still would appreciate she stop bringing up chubas she's not familiar with.

>>11673159
Just in case any clipfag wants to typeset it, please, do like the old anime OP subs and also add the russian text somewhere.

>>11673222
>No one said she shit talked Coco
Keep moving those goalposts, dramanig
>she shit talked Holo by implying they never let her do English streams
She said "fully English streams", and now that I think of it, neither reddit reviews nor even the famed keep talking and nobody explodes thing was in full English, she spoke Japanese too. Now, that actually has nothing to do with Cover and everything to do with Coco being a self-hating JSL, but that's a different story.

>>11672855
Alright let's just get someone to clip and subtitle this, then start spreading it to Youtube and see if shit starts burning.

>>11673283
This is a considerably weaker defence than your IT DIDNT EVEN HAPPEN, cause even they agreed the video had to be privated. You don't talk about that shit, another company's drama or lie about the inner workings

>>11673283
>undeleted dox
You mean >>11669858?
Retardchama, that's just voices.
A-are you ogey?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHU-2FMpIlU

>>11673159
So this is probably why she deleted the stream, like I originally thought. To avoid the doxxing accusations. Still don't see the problem with this because everyone knows who Kson is.

>>11673378
>shit starts burning
Nah, just clip it as "Nina Kosaka LOVES Kiryu Coco!" but keep it as is. Also, >>11673335
Let people draw their own conclusions.

>>11673395
>>11673408
not a defense at all, it's just funny how transparent the outrage is

>>11673504
We all know the Niji girls PL. Why not go talk about it in various chats, cause you don't ruin the game like that.

>>11673504
Everyone knows Nina's past life too. Why don't you go tell everyone in her chat.

>>11673504
Just look at this thread. That's why.

Literally calling her an "actress" is already all levels of fucked up.

>>11673504
Same reason why people don't mention m*s*m* when talking about l*l*.

>>11673504
Doxxing does not depends of something everyone knows (as you think) or not. It's just bad manners to talk about person, standing behind character you have no relations to (and calling her "voice actress" - that's not what we do here in VTubing).

>>11673378
>>11673521
4chan is not your personal army holy newfag

>>11673159
So that was it? People trying to cancel her saying she shat on Hololive and kson and etc but that was all she did?

She said something (admittedly a bit unprofessional and bad vtuber etiquette) about coco/kson and then complimented her?

At best, she sounds like an excited fan who became a vtuber and at worse, someone who is very ignorant.

Yet you have escaped mentally ill patients itt treating it like it's the next final yab knowing that Coco being Kson is the most public knowledge thing you could ever imagine. It's about as secret as wrestling being fake.

Nina is so based

>Doxxing
I know half of this dogshit board are 2021 newfags (what a dreadful thing), but even on jaypee this wouldn't be called doxxing (in the chuuba sense), let alone real, actual doxxing which involves powerwords and addresses. Like the one you did on Kiara. If telling people to go watch The Vtuber Formerly Known as Coco is wrong, I don't wanna be right.

>>11673632
Just trying to steer actual newfags who may just go full Otakmori.

>>11673634
>She never said this it is just rrats!
>Okay she said exactly that but what is the big deal?
Plenty have broken down the issue with it and your last attempt to subvert failed.

>>11673617
For one she never actually mentions kson, and two she's literally searching for a word to describe the person behind the avatar. You's have to be autistic to think she means actress in the negative sense.

>>11673634
>>11673681
She was right though. You put on a good avatar and retards will forgive you for anything.

>>11673732
Point out where she shit on kson.

>>11673603
Eh, just her wooden russian. She struggles to find words half of the time.
[sp]vtubers just play their role, but also bring parts of their personality in it. Yes, they are de-facto actors. Nothing to be angry about.[/sp]

>>11673737
She meant what she meant, shizo. And if you want to see ksons name - then read chat, she pointed that out.

>>11673795
touristchama, your spoiler reps...

>>11673737
When her chat, which is on screen, spams kson she goes yeah that's her. Cope.

>>11673603
And you never called them VAs or seiyuus, retard? You know what those words mean, right?

>>11673865
Literally not the same thing you retarded newfag.

>>11673133
I wouldn’t care if she was speaking the truth. Making up rrats (that can easily be proven wrong) about a graduated VTuber, however, makes her looks like some shitty thot trying to leech from a corpse and hoping to gain popularity with the uninformed

I’m not even a dramanig but the people here trying desperately to defend this are baffling to me
She might not have meant anything bad by it but it’s still incredibly retarded behavior

>>11673898
"Voice actress" is not the same thing as "actress", holy fucking shit, they weren't kidding about this board being overrun with underages.

>>11673909
It almost feels like some sort of falseflag, she hasn't even been around long enough for people to try to justify being this fucking retarded.

>>11673826
oh no...
I forgot when I was using spoilers last time...

>>11673963
BOTH are still wrong in this case you stupid fucking newfaggot.

>>11673865
I can call you a faggot 24/7 and still wouldn't be able to graduate while chubbas can do it in just a day

>>11673836
And why should I be mad about that?

>>11673909
People drop fortunes on these woman that they'll never meet and you think defending them on a South Pacific pineapple farming forum is odd?

>>11674015
>>11674027
Sorry she didn't use 中の人 like a good dramafag would.

>>11674092
None of the en girls would like you going to a holo chat and spamming their old name. So why is this okay? Ninafags don't even like her old clips being spammed here. Past lives stay in the past.

>>11674195
Did they spam it in kson's chat, retardbro?

>>11674195
That sounds like chats fault then.

>>11674293
Try asking them in a maro if it's okay then, retardchama.

>>11674287
>>11674293
Can you faggots point out a single Holo or Niji who has talked about a talents previous life? It doesn't happen for a reason you goddamn retards and Nina doing so is obviously an incredibly unprofessional thing to do

>>11674287
Man you're bad at reading. Weirdly you're not spamming others with niji doxes though, cause it is obviously a shit thing to do.

>>11674293
Which she didn't take off screen or tell off. But go yeah that's her! Engaging with it.

I see that the revelation put the Nijikeks into yet another cope session.

>>11674413
Rushia. It was in a convo with another chubba and she apologized immediately after. I don't have proof though.

>>11674478
It’s only enfags though

>>11674503
To be fair to Rushia, Mito had already released a video about it as Mito, but bringing it up was awkward as fuck.

>>11674503
>>11674537
But as mentioned, Rushia immediately apologized. Nina just went "is this okay haha" and just powered on.
>I'm not sure, if am allowed to talk about it, but yes. She can be found, she's still doing everything.

We got her this time bros, this time we'll win.

>>11631259
I want to scout her insides with my dick iykwim

>>11673732
The rrat was that she shit on the company and intentionally doxxed kson (some even saying she shit on her).

There is no subverting. You made a mountain out of a molehill.
She'll get a slap on the wrist and it will be forgotten about and everything will go about it's business, while you continue to seethe on /vt/ hoping she gets fired.

>Allow Niji discussion on /vt/
>This is the result
You only have yourselves to blame.

>>11674637
They were fine until now. NijiEN that is, the fans should be lined up against a wall.

>>11674567
Mito is active, Coco is not. Why would kson be upset about someone driving traffic to her?

>>11631259
That yagoo plant rrat is sounding more plausible by each day

>>11674676
The fanbase has always been insufferable, but they at least kept themselves to JP until recently because of obvious reasons.

>>11674707
I mean the problem was never about kson tho, it was the force behind her antis that causes the vid to be privated

>>11674707
I don't know, man. Maybe you should ask Nijisanji why they thought the video should be taken down. Maybe ask Nina why she felt the need to lie about the reason too if it wasn't such a big deal.

>>11674637
>Allow holo discussion on /vt/
>They immediately dox the new talents, their friends, their families, and their pets and then dox all the competition too just to be fair

>>11675103
Being misinformed and lying is not the same thing, ESL. Then again you're the kind of person that probably accused Aloe of "lying" too, nice to see being a shitstirrer truly transcends party lines.

>>11675263
Her reason for lying about taking down the video was a sound error. Clearly it wasn't. I don't know what your babbling about when you're saying she was misinformed.

>>11672855
Thanks for the full context rusbro.
So from my unbiased reasonable perspective, while it's not as bad as her detractors made it sound, it's also not as good (and not "nothing") as her simps try to spin it. No matter where it falls, it's still unprofessional at best and even though I don't see it being a career-ender, it's one of those "should've just kept your mouth shut, stupid bitch" situations, which for the people who're already wary of her is just another notch in the belt.

- unsubstantiated on-stream rratting about another company's talent / their management rules, of which you know nothing about, just looks bad, no matter how you slice it. At best it makes you look like an uninformed rube (even if we take the argument at face value, Cover forbidding english-streams? Is she that much of a newfag that she doesn't know Haachama etc.?), at worst it's a professional liability because your own company doesn't want you to go rogue and ruin relations with the other company either, especially over a trivial self-serving matter such as this (seriously, why even bring this up? Making yourself look better by sneakdissing others? "Look how I can do foreign language streams here, unlike Coco who couldn't under Cover!")

- trying to be cute about it and hiding it in a russian-language stream, thinking you can fly under the radar of your own management. Ask yourself this, would she have dared to say the same things in english? If not, it's because she knows it's something she shouldn't have said. Alas, the bonk still came, and she had to tug her tail and private the vid (notice how the vague "apology" tweet still makes no mention of the real reason, further cementing the fact that she knows she did a bad she shouldn't have done)

- inciting your fanbase to spam your company about more russian streams is just inviting more annoyance all around, and explicitely telling them to "use the example" of Coco, a talent of another company, makes it even more unprofessional, because you're dragging unrelated people/companies in this. And, while she stopped short of saying Kson (why? of course because she knows what she's doing is bad) , she all but called it, which is at least a breach of "vtuber etiquette" and further shows how you're a foreign intruder in the medium who doesn't understand or respect the rules (which again, makes people wary she'll continue to push the envelope further and bring her political shit in, etc.)

>>11676750
This. She should've kept the stupid bitch juice to a minimum. It's why people had a bad opinion of Mori and Kiara at first (and some still have).

>>11676750
>Unbiased reasonable perspective
She wasn't trying to be cute about it, she was bringing it up because it was in the context of a foreign language stream. She's already talked about Hololive and alluded to her feelings towards Cover in English and those streams are all still up, which means if there is a problem in the eyes of her or management it's in "outing" kson.
And it's not "inciting spam," it's asking the audience to show management there's a demand for foreign language streams, which was the entire reason she was given the go ahead to do the stream to begin with.
She's dumb for not choosing her words more carefully and it's pretty obvious how she feels about Cover's management but every faggot calling it malicious or acting like she's pushing buttons rather than just running her mouth too much is a delusional anti desperate to see her fall.

>>11677181
>asking the audience to show management there's a demand for foreign language streams
It's spam. You think the holofags were happy when Gura's underage chat kept bringing her everywhere else in the beginning?
Be objective or go be a snowflake somewhere else.

>>11677181
>She's already talked about Hololive and alluded to her feelings towards Cover in English and those streams are all still up
Oh, thanks for proving it's not just Nina, Niji EN entire management is rhubarbed.

>>11677181
She is a bitch and a hypocrite, anybody who's not sucking her dick knows this. You don't have to hate her to know she didn't have bad intentions when saying the shit that she does. This kind of shit would have never in a thousand years happened in a Hololive stream.

>>11677358
>gura in minecraft while ame is in a cliff.jpg

>>11677233
I went back and re-read what she said and she doesn't even tell people to voice support, she just asks them to understand she can't always do this and to tell others in the comments that she isn't able to similar to how Coco primarily streamed in Japanese.

>>11677181
She doesn't speak Japanese and she doesn't work for Cover. How the fuck would she know anything about how cover runs their management? Her saying Coco couldn't do a full English stream was pure speculation pulled out of her fuzzy ass. HOW is that not pushing buttons?

>>11677358
>>11677422
>someone who works in the business has no insight on how management works but random anons doing an hour of internet detective work know exactly how recruiting, talent relations and business development work
ogey

>>11677420
>she just asks them to understand she can't always do this
>tell others in the comments that she isn't able to
>"please GIVE THEM Coco as an example"
>she doesn't even tell people to voice support
retardchama...
at least try it in another thread...

>>11677551
>being a clerk in a town hall means you know how city-level economy works
lel
lmao even