/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>11603319
ccv + sc
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://overseas.live-ranking.com/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/total-ranking/youtube
>https://www.dousetu.com/daily_ranking/
>http://v-ana.com/
>https://playboard.co/en/

Hololive
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://twitter.com/holo_data
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://mipacd.github.io/chat-stats/excl-chat.html
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html

Nijisanji
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings

This one (It has # in the subject, and therefore shall be the thread to use)

>>11618449
And also first to be posted

>12.8k for polka MC(vc w/flare)

Not bad clown you're getting your mojos back

The Lamy connection

>>11618544
After a horribly depressing July/August for her numbers, it does appear that she's bounced back from her depressive menhera episode after getting it outta her system with that outfit reveal+song.
Shion will be going on tomorrow's 10k+ board though, assuming YT doesn't susan her stream.

I'm kinda surprised to see that FBK's peaks have been mostly 10k or really close to it within this month (and last month wasn't much worse either). Last time I checked (several months ago, admittedly), her median of peaks was in the 6-7k range. Did Friend get a second wind recently?

>>11618611
Based numberfags start numberfagging two Lamys

>>11618770
Ollie is doing MC now and have pretty good number for ID(3.1k currently) . They really shouldn't abandon MC for the love of numberfag.

Average hours streamed for September and October 2021, to allow for people to have an informed debate about it.
Last thread was a shitshow with people throwing speculation around without looking at the numbers

>>11618988
thanks, I thought kronii was dead last based on how retarded anons are acting

>>11618988
Mmm.
Yea, hours for the month OF October are gonna be worse for council, they all got hit with one thing or another.
Kronii - is sick apparently
Bae - Concussed herself, bad net
Fauna - Wisdom teeth removal took her out for a bit
Sana - Dog (best friend of 20 years) died, grieving
Mumei - Uni, exams from what she said.
The above is for context.

Hikakin is getting passed by this thing soon

>>11618988
how's the past graph?

>>11618988
I think it's better if you isolate September and compare to October, and October isn't over yet so i don't think it's fair to do average right now, or did I misunderstood something from the chart?

>>11619123
>thanks, I thought kronii was dead last based on how retarded anons are acting
She actually has the most hours streamed of all of Council in October 2021 so far

>>11619160
See >>11619389

>>11619242
>how's the past graph?
There is no past for Council, they debuted in the last week of August

>>11619379
>I think it's better if you isolate September and compare to October, and October isn't over yet so i don't think it's fair to do average right now, or did I misunderstood something from the chart?
See >>11619389 for October alone.

On one hand people are overreacting. Clockgirl hours streamed are on par with he rest of the company.
On the other hand people don't expect fresh off the benches players to be needing to take breaks.and use IRyS as a comparison, a streamer that is at the top of the hours streamed chart ever since she debuted.
>a VSinger nonetheless

>all this gay shit
Who cares? Council are midgets for the most part. What are the big boy numbers for the day?

>>11619389
Myth is so motivated this October.

>>11619509
Previous thread is linked at the top, fucking retard

>>11619509
Only Baelz and Sana are midgets, Fauna can get to mid-tier numbers of 10k while Kronii and Mumei can get high-tier numbers of 20k for certain streams.

>>11619487
>There is no past for Council, they debuted in the last week of August
yes, I know that but I was looking at other things

Kanae came in with a buzzer beater clutch because if not for this one stream Nijisanji would end the day with zero (0) streams of 10k in today's top

>>11619609
>Baelz
>Midget
Anon please fact check your statements before making them, this is the numbers thread, not your house of lies

>>11619721
No shut-out tonight holobros/fags/bronies/(insertpro/antiholotermhere)

>>11619740
There are three Baes
-Let's play crummy games during bouncing hours and get sub 4k
-Collab Bae, showing her strengths
-Average Bae, playing solo and doing solid enough numbers for the games, such as her little nightmares and creeper farm streams, plus her Zatsu streams

>>11619721
It still looks like Nijisanji got dabbed on today. It feels like half the days in this month were 2-3 streams away from a complete sweep. I wonder how end of the month numbers will compare.

>>11619586
It was more council shit.

>>11618165
I remember jacking off to this 4chantuber. Do you have all the webm?

>>11619721
Is there any point of making just 10k top for today if there aren't even 10 of them?

>>11620196
yes, otherwise youll start skipping more days as well

>>11620196
Consistency anon! You slack off with the lists one day and that's how you start slipping.

>>11619609
Subs 5k in zatsudan is a midget now?
Guess Botan is weaker than a midget.

>>11620196
Oh wait my bad there are exactly 10 of them if you add Rushia's announcement

Now here is a chart that will put a smile in everyone's face
>MEDIAN OF PEAKS, October 2021

This may break some record or two and all it takes is for Ayame refrain from streaming for the next 2 weeks, which she might because she got a cold or something

>>11620393
>En1 lost to jp5 and gamers

>>11620487
JP is much stronger than EN, this isn't in doubt by anyone.

>>11620393
Whats the point of putting ayame there? There should be a minimum amount of stream before she gets included.

>>11620393
Here is the same chart, but with Ayame removed because, yeah, outliers gonna outlie

>>11620545
>>11620393
Yeah, take her out since it skews the graph.

>>11620393
I kneel ayame sama

>>11620545
See >>11620572
>Whats the point of putting ayame there?
For the shits and giggles

>>11620545
Clearly it was for fun of course. It does warp the damned thing a ton though, but I appreciate the effort.
>>11620487
JP livestreaming is primarily on YT, whereas for the rest of the world its Twitch. The fact that even with all the CCV fuckery that HoloEN pulls numbers that they do in a market that skews heavily towards Twitch is not too bad.

>>11620487
And some anon really think jp5 failed.

>>11620572
jp mogging en on averages with almost thrice the streamers i kneel

>>11620572
Just remember that there's people who compare jp3 to en1 kek

>>11620487
Because of adblock shenanigans and also gen 5 practically cheating by spamming collabs and trending games

>>11620832
August and September EN mogs JP anon...

>>11620940
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>>11620940
Kek I bet that anon is afraid to show August and September's chart

>>11620940
>August and September EN mogs JP anon...
On the median of peaks
>August: JP 8912 x 10208 EN
>September: JP 9136 x 8827 EN

It is important to remember that August was the month when Council debuted.

>>11620572
Gen 3 best gen, almost double en

>>11621025
August was packed with anniversaries and birthdays for JP and they still can't beat EN, looks like the mogging is on the other shoe

>>11620896
>practically cheating by spamming collabs and trending games
kek, anon, plz. Stop falseflagging!

>>11621039
Pekora is an absolute numbers monster, and while Gura is no slouch, she can't carry her Gen. Too heavy numberswise.

>>11621056
>August was packed with anniversaries and birthdays for JP
kek, don't forget August was the month where Towa, Roboco and Matsuri ground to a halt by having barely over 3 digits APEX streams.

>>11621057
The minecraft collabs have overwhelmingly benefited JP because they keep happening in JP hours, pretty shitty of management to force that to promote JP but I guess they have to prop up the branch somehow

>>11620818
They're the only gen without a breakout star, if you looked up the definition of mediocrity in a dictionary you'd find gen 5's picture right below the word

>>11621101
GIVE ME A N
GIVE ME A I
GIVE ME A J
GIVE ME A I
GIVE ME A C
GIVE ME A ..... WAIT, WHAT?

>>11621166
They have botan for Ccv and they have lamy for SC. Nene is also no slouch on her SC.

>>11620572
The hilarious part about this graph is that for gen3 it "should" be higher median, but Marine is on a break.. It sure is a powerhouse generation.

>>11621166
>he says in the very same day after Botan reaches 1M subs
Also, see >>11620572, Botan firmly in the Top 10

>>11621166
How about Botan? She does have the ruskie autism numbers.

>>11621225
It appears that with Niji gone for the day, the schizos must find other bait to bait their hooks.

>>11621227
>>11621266
Each gen has at least one star like Miko, Fubuki, Aqua, Pekora, Korone, Coco, Gura and Kronii who get high views, high subs and high SCs. Botan is by far the weakest representative of a gen and Lamy barely gets half of Rushia's SCs on a good day, it's a joke to compare them with actually strong gens.

ATTENTION EVERYONE

THIS IS NUMBERS, NOT TRIBAL OR COPE

TAKE YOUR BULLSHIT ELSEWHERE

>>11620572
Towa could be higher. She's been getting much better numbers recently, but all the APEX really kills her median.

>IRyS/Mori off collab karaoke overlapping Suisei's outfit reveal
Smart move or miscalculation?

>>11621349
Botan gets better number than korone, kronii and fubuki while you cant compare rushia to someone because she is miles ahead of anyone

>>11621349
So much wrong with this post I don't even know where to start. Fubuki doesn't get exceptionally high views, nor superchat, Korone has declined immensely in views, Coco never had good CCV outside of her meme streams, Kronii is a dud and the people who were drawn in by her are already changing their minds.

>>11621503
Same number with korone i mean

>>11620487
The difference isn't that big and...
>Kiara playing JPRPG
>Mori and Ame doing watch-along

>>11621546
Ignore the jp5 schizo

>>11621500
It's kinda rude, but it's likely they'll tell people to check out Suisei's stream when she actually starts teasing the costume 40 mins in.
Shouldn't affect numbers too much, but still a bone-headed decision that probably can't be easily rescheduled since it's an off-collab.

FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN

Here it goes
>39,490: Pekora (Hololive)
>33,320: Rushia (Hololive)
>18,605: Subaru (Hololive)
>18,311: Miko (Hololive)
>13,322: Kanae (Nijisanji)
>13,108: Shibuya Hal (Indie)
>12,966: Haneru (Animare)
>12,946: Polka (Hololive)
>12,658: Kanata (Hololive)
>10,312: Lamy (Hololive)

Weakest day on record so far?

>>11621616
>It's kinda rude
Different branches. It's not like Mori was upset (or particularly affected numbers-wise) when her outfit reveal was being overlapped by 10 HoloJP streams.

>TOP WINNERS OF THE DAY - OCTOBER 2021

1) Korone (Hololive) - 71k - Birthday 3D
2) Ayame (Hololive) - 86k - 3D Concert
3) Hal (Indie) - 57k - CR lottery
4) Noel (Hololive) - 101k - Outfit Reveal
5) Fubuki (Hololive) - 72k - Birthday 3D
6) Pekora (Hololive) - 45k - Minecraft (ENxSubaru)
7) Subaru (Hololive) - 93k - 3rd Anniversary
8) Pekora (Hololive) - 26.2k - Mario Kart 8DX
9) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 53.4k - CR Cup Tournament
10) Luna (Hololive) - 57k - Birthday 3D
11) Pekora (Hololive) - 52k - TotsuClubhouse51
12) Subaru (Hololive) - 38k - Card Unboxing with Luna
13) Kanae (Nijisanji) - 54k - Outfit Reveal
14) Pekora (Hololive) - 36k - Minecraft
15) Naraka (Nijisanji) - 53k - 3D Debut
16) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 33k - Blazing Sails Niji Tournament
17) Pekora (Hololive) - 39.4k - Judge Eyes
18) Pekora (Hololive) - 39.5k - Summer craft championship

>FUTURE EVENTS
19) Suisei - Outfit Reveal
21) Marine - Return Stream

>>11621647
The weakess day is the top 1 of pekora with only 26k imo.

>>11621709
>The weakess day is the top 1 of pekora with only 26k imo.
Not by number of streams. It was actually a very stacked day, engrossed with 5 streams coming from the EN side

>>11621681
It was rude back then as well, and at least those Holos told their viewers to watch Mori's costume reveal.
Just because it's allowed because different branches doesn't mean it's not rude.
In this case, it's extra rude for Mori, who is acquainted with Suisei, to stream over her special stream.
Not nearly as rude as when Hachaama streamed over Towa's 3D live tho.

>>11621500
Mori did her schedule 2 days before Suisei

>>11621516
That's now but all of them have made their mark and helped hololive by expanding the audience while you can't say the same for Botan or any of gen 5 at all.

>>11621703
Nijisanji can still win if they go 12-1 the rest of the way.

>>11621681
the thing is, Suisei and Calli both probably have a big audience overlap. I can't show you the graph because I don't have it at hand but a graph showed the overlap between different holomembers and Suisei and Calli had an overlap, if I remember correctly.

>>11621799
>while you can't say the same for Botan
Wut? The only reason at all Hololive has any reach in the slavic parts of the globe is thanks to Botan

Even Holo management itself admitted to it by making a 1M milestone celebratory post in full russian

>>11621809
That is, if they can go against Suisei and Marine

>>11620572
EN is shit, thank God there is Gura who is solo carrying and saving it, if it wasn't for her this generation would be a total failure.

>>11621516
>Kronii is a dud and the people who were drawn in by her are already changing their minds.
Kek you might want to leave this place and get a dose of reality before /vt/ rots your brain.

>>11621856
>every other JP and EN gen has expanded hololive's reach massively in the vital EN & JP markets
>gen 5 can only manage to get a couple hundred people from the slavic market
Yeah, what an amazing achievement

>>11621929
I'm dizzy from all this goalpost moving

>>11621856
Slavs cant stop winning, thank you californiaosaka!

>>11621809
Doubt. Some random pekora stream can get big numbers you know and it looks like kuzuha isn't in his top shape.

>>11621899
nijien fans cope again?

>>11622055
More like Seaniggers

>>11621899
Mori's music views beat the shit out of JP bros?

>>11620393
>>11620572
Based on this chart, here is the power rank of Holo blokes and chicks

>God Class: ayame, pekora, gura, shion, miko
>SSR class heroes: aqua, subaru, rushia, korone, kanata, botan, suisei, nene, mio, ouro, fubuki
>S class heroes: inanis, noel, mumei, flare, polka, haato
** hololive median **
>A class heroes: amelia, ceres, calliope, okayu, lamy, irys, watame, hakos
>B class heroes: luna, towa, kiara, aki, sora, moona, sana, matsuri
>C class heroes: choco, roboco, ollie, mel, astel, reine, iofi, risu, roberu
>Civilians: miyabi, anya, stars, izuru, shien, aruran, oga, rikka, temma

WELL ANONS?!

>>11621809
>Niji can still win
70% of the the top 10 is dominated by Hololive

>>11621809
>Nijisanji can still win if they go 12-1 the rest of the way.
kek, anon, plz. Today would be won by a fucking dead cat if Pekora didn't postpone her special stream from yesterday to today

>>11622138
Nigger music getting more views. Who would have thought

>>11622182
>the Pats are down 4 touchdowns in the 3rd quarter, there is no way they can lose!

Can we get peak average aswell graph anon.

>>11621852
Not a graph but there is this.
https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/tmp/20211011a.html
It doesn't seem like they have a particularly big overlap, at least based on unique chat users intersection.

>>11622235
I'm not seeing any Tom Brady on Niji's roster, Kuzuha has Atlas tier back but even he cannot carry that hard

>>11618165

>>11622360
>Kuzuha playing Apex for two weeks straight just to get top CCVs of the day while the civilians are kneeling at their king for saving them from being ridiculed

>>11622320
Mori : 36k users
Overlap with Suisei - 1167 users

Suisei: 17k users
Overlap with IRyS - 2234 users

If anything, IRyS has heavier overlap with Suisei than Mori does.

>>11622138
Mori - End of a life
>2.3M views (18 days)
Suisei - Stellar Stellar
>875k views (10 days)

Not even Suisei can get close to Mori

>>11622515
Oh come on, that's not a fair comparison and you know it. End of a life was released with the MV, whilst Stellar Stellar's MV was released after the song was released on other platforms + physical discs were in stores.

>>11621703
>Kuzuha - Tournament
"king"

>>11622320
according to this, there's more overlap between Suisei and Amelia than Suisei and Calli? that's unexpected.

>>11622499
Suisei will have all the tourists and who knows how many IRyS/Mori fans would choose them over an outfit reveal.

Kind of surprised by Korone's low CCV right now. All I can infer is that her views are extremely dependent on game choice lately.

>>11622740
>tourists
now I remembered that Suisei has the chat restricted to 24hrs subscribers only. Could this affect the numbers?

>>11622598
If you want an accurate comparison, all of mori's song mvs from her "Your mori" album was able to get 1m views under a week despite being originally released months ago.

>>11622807
Of course it is. It doesn't take 10 seconds to go to her channel and see what content she's playing. She's always been like that with old games.

>>11622818
Oh, when did she put that on? It's hard to keep track of that sort of thing but I'd water that yes, that would affect the numbers.

>>11622864
Yes, that's a fairer comparison.
Suisei's song game is strong, but Mori's is stronger, that much I know is true just based off of numbers.

>>11622254
>Can we get peak average aswell graph anon.
Here it goes.

Outliers of the month shift some people way over their actual reach, that's why using the median is more advisable

>>11622902
the last Among Us collab, when the chinks were spamming her chat because of Fubuki

Seeing how Mori's been making a lot of music, I wonder what kind of reception will she get when she finally gets a 3D debut. She can sing all her songs on stage without having to pay royalties on top of having to perform too. She might even surpass Fuwa for the highest CCV and Superchat. I just hope Cover has the tech when the time comes.

>>11621929
Botan isn't RU Gura, she's more like RU Korone: a talent that's popular enough to make an impact and get a clips, but the real beneficiary would be any talents who engage the RU market with the ecosystem of RU clippers/fans in place. Same with an ES expansion, the smart thing is to have one or two bilinguals in EN to kickstart the clippers then drop a new gen with an ES focused Holo.

>>11622864
>all of mori's song mvs from her "Your mori" album was able to get 1m views under a week
No they didn't, it took longer than a week

>Ijimekko Bully (Mori Calliope) - 8 Days (10h 1m)
>The Grim Reaper is a Live Streamer (Mori Calliope) - 9 Days (13h 54m)

I know I'm splitting hairs and it's still faster than Stellar Stellar, but I don't want /#/ tainted by incorrect numbers.

>>11622971
Funny thing about this is that there is this HUGE drop between Amelia and Kiara.
It truly seems an artifact of Youtube that nobody has the average CCV on the 7k range, it drops sharply from 8k to 6k.

>>11623041
Mori has more than enough for an actual 3d live. If the other Myth girls did guest spots they could easily kick it up to a 10K venue and sell it out I suspect.

>>11622971
Thanks anon. Subaru numbers jump out huh. Interesting difference in average and median.

>>11623041
Mori did mention quite a long time ago that if she ever got a 3D debut, she'd model it on Suisei's 3D debut which was essentially a live concert. If she got guests on (Suisei for Getcha, Boogey Voxx for their collab song, etc) it could be a real show.

>>11622971
>>11623102
A second funny thing: I'm procrastinating but I already have the ability to add Nijisanji to either of these charts: >>11622971 and >>11620572

Maybe if the thread gets slow and civilized enough to be able to absorb the unavoidable shitfest it would become

>>11621647
Is this youtube only? Pretty sure veibae was around 11k

>>11623186
Atleast give us the top 5 for niji

>>11623211
It's not Youtube only but only the streams that live-ranking carries.
Sometimes they carry some twitch streams but those are infrequent enough for it to be worthy adding by hand, except if they're at th top
>like that Nyanners charity one, that I manually added

>>11623211
Yes, it's youtube only.
Sticking in Twitch numbers, which aren't affected by any sort of CCV culling, isn't really a 1:1 comparison. Trends are good, but single point comparisons are less than useless unless the gap is very, very large.

>>11623177
Honestly, that almost seems like a waste. That's an actual concert! Sell tickets and merch for 7 figure revenue

>>11623307
>That's an actual concert! Sell tickets and merch for 7 figure revenue
Or do like Aqua, do a couple of concerts and throw the celebration as a "thank you for being a kind audience"

>>11623307
Bitch, if you think Mori won't be holding concerts every chance she gets, well..
But the 3d debut is something that's going to be free and for everyone.

>>11623307
All in due time, man.

>>11623154
Subaru got a 90k CCV 3D birthday stream

>>11622977
also, doesn't this sort of thing throws a lot of charts through the window? Someone would need to manually check each chuuba and keep track of which ones have chat restriction a which ones doesn't but it would still be unfair to compare those who do have it to those who doesn't. People could try to see the difference between something like a 24hrs restriction and a 5 minutes restriction, for example.

>>11620572
I'd you consider fbk Gen 1 then she and haachama are hated carrying Gen 1... And haachama barely streamed this month.
If you consider fbk as gamers and not gen 1 then I feel bad that chammers has to carry them on her back like that

>>11623764

>>11623041
Her audience is disperse around the world. I don't think that she's ever going to do a proper live concert on stage

>>11623764
>I'd you consider fbk Gen 1
She is Gen1

>OH NO NO NO NO
NijiKR dabbing on NijiEN

This time there is not even the "APEX" excuse, Bora Nun was playing Back4Blood with some literally whos
>Towa Ch. 常闇トワ
>Selly Apex
>Mondo

This Towa looks cute tho, if she tags along with Bora she'll have a great future on streaming!

>>11623905
I agree but a lot of people consider her more gamers than Gen 1 and I'm not really sure why.

>>11624155
Poor Reimu still hasn't collected enough superchat to beat even one monetization stream of her colleagues...

>>11624155
>Towa, Selly, Mondo
>Literally whos
Kek.

>>11624235
i mean she is literally the reason gamers even exists

>>11622215
Even without the cat, there was still Subaru's crane game stream

Who has had the best numbers with the new idolm@ster game? Mito got 10-12K, right?

>>11624235
>a lot of people consider her more gamers than Gen 1
ZanNen, I can't have Fubuki on both gens so I picked Gen 1.

>>11624155
Is Bora streaming in KR or JP? I heard the majority of her fans are Japanese. If they're doing a collab in full KR and got 5k views that's impressive and possibly the biggest Korean vtuber stream on youtube ever?

>>11624424
Just watch the damn stream newfag. All the names are JP peeps, HoloTowa with Selly and Mondo being CR pros.

>>11618165
>I am cum
XD

>>11621500
It's not Suisei's outfit reveal if there is no overlapping stream. For her previous outfit reveal stream, Ayame decided to do her monthy stream at the same time as Suisei.

>>11624597
And it didn't matter, she still got over 70k.

>>11624496
>he fell for the "literally who" Towa meme

>>11624826
That was pre-culling.

>NOT TODAY, ORANGE CHIKIN!

https://twitter.com/search?q=%23%E9%96%A2%E8%A5%BFVtuberMT&src=typed_query&f=live can we numberfag chuuba itashas

>>11625285
Not with that low level of engagement. Maybe numberfagging porn could be a thing.

Any other HoloCouncil fag feel that it is strange that the NijiEN3's debut buff was absorbed by Selen? The cannibalization seems to be Selen feasting at everyone else's expense rather than everyone going down. What mechinisms can cause such a thing because I am baffled. I mean she was the most popular before but there is a huge gulf developing.

>>11625401
Selen is the breakout star of NijiEN
HoloCouncil is coasting over the Hololive name and give newfags or returning oldfags someone new they can invest to.

>>11625401
>What mechinisms can cause such a thing
Selen reached out to her senpais and assorted faggots even outside the vtuber world. See also
>Ollie and ID2

>>11625401
Selen brings in a different kind of audience that is just there for Selen, all the other girls are cannibalizing each other because their content is similar.

I wonder though, why are Suisei's Tales of Arise streams doing so much better than Kiara's Arise streams? She's getting 7k-10k pretty consistently. Is it because Suisei is just that strong? Her Deresute stream also got ~12k which is much higher than what Flare/Roboco/Nene got

>>11625401
Selen has been doing really well recently with her content, especially since it's October and she's notoriously bad with horror games. She has a clear niche (tomboy gamer gap moe) that's basically uncontested.
On the other hand, most of NijiEN3 is uninteresting outside of fans filtering in from their past lives. Nina has actually been doing really well for herself, and I think a good part of that has been her being very upfront about what kind of unique content she's going to deliver (Russian mommy RP) while the others have looked lost.

>>11625785
Shit's more popular in Japan than it is for westerners. Also Suisei is just way more popular.

>>11625785
You're seriously comparing Suisei to the likes of Kiara Flare, Roboco, and Nene?

>>11625785
She's japanese, she's way more popular, and she plays alot better than Kiara does.
this is abit of a general issue with Kiara actually, despite her love for JRPGs she absolutely sucks at understanding how the mechanics work in the game she's playing and basically just facerolls through all of it.

>>11625813
It's really weird. You'd think that all of them would be rushing out the gate with so many presumed buffs going in
>NijiEN now having an established base with a breakout star from the most recent gen.
>Most of them had a substantial following for an Indie prior to joining
>Most of them were veterans so its not like they didn't know the 1st thing about streaming and what catches the algo's eye
>They were the "singing wave" which should've been the biggest buff
I don't get it all. This gen should have continued NijiEN's "slow and steady" incline but Wave 3 feels like they just exist. Like a bunch of background characters that aren't even memorable.

>>11625785
>Is it because Suisei is just that strong?
Yes

>>11625785
>much higher than what Flare/Roboco/Nene
See >>11620572 chart. Other than Nene with her amazing October incline there is a huge gap between Suisei and pretty much everybody else in the company

>>11625785
Suisei is also feeling the JRPG drop since she started with 13k and is on 6-7k 4 streams in, which I only expect to stabilize or even drop further as she continues. Kiara started with 5k and is on average stable 2.5k throughout the rest of the playthrough. I don't know, the proportionate drops seem the same.

>>11625930
Oh wow, Fire Emblem and Atelier just two of the most mechanic intensive JRPGs there is. It would be utterly frustrating watching someone ignore the mechanics in those two games

>>11626326
Yes, and that's why she keeps getting low views during her JRPG playthroughs because the only reason anyone would watch her streams is for her in person.

>>11626086
Being ESLs and coming after Council already debuted. I also think it was a bad move to show the designs months ago, ruined any suspense or hype.

>>11625401
Feels like a case where her viewers are specifically Selen fans and not NijiEN fans.

>>11625785
Suisei's more popular and is a known Talesfag for a long while, Tales is also more popular in JP.
>>11626086
They're kinda lame. They'll be like Chigusa's group and EN Wave 4 with the dudes will be like Eden and pop em up.

>>11626086
Because both waves after the 1st gen were released way too soon and ended up mixing their respective target audiences, which leads to cannibalize subs/viewers instead of bringing new people to watch.
That's why gens usually have a one year gap or even more sometimes. Lets you define your target audience and bring new people to aim towards a different kind of niche to rack up new subs.

>>11626395
Potentially from the APEX community?
>>11625447
Irys should've debuted with Council IMO. She's so fucking good as a streamer.

>>11626521
Let some people get tired of the old shit so they are ravenous for the new shit.

>>11626395
>Feels like a case where her viewers are specifically Selen fans and not NijiEN fans.
>>11626531
>Potentially from the APEX community?
Some, but not all. I would say Selen absorbed even more than Pomu the
>got bored of Myth and didn't get swayed by Council
audience

>The "Tales is way more popular in Japan" fags are here again
Numbers:
https://www.gematsu.com/2021/03/tales-of-series-best-selling-games-announced-worldwide-japan-asia-north-america-and-europe

>>11626086
I wonder if NijiEN's permissions are an issue, actually. It feels like singing is not that much of a buff when all you're allowed to sing is anime songs.

>>11626395
As someone who falls into this category I feel like Selen's solo streams always proceed at a good pace with very strong direction - the impression is always given that she's going to accomplish something significant this stream, every stream, especially in single-player story-based games, while for a lot of the others it feels like they're just playing the game until their preallocated stream time is up and just leaving it hanging at some random point. Through her reactions and re-embellishing moments, I think, Selen provides a lot of distinguishable story beats in her streaming, significant events you can point to in a verbal retelling and say, "this happened, then this, then this..." A lot of the rest of NijiEN don't really have this. On HoloEN side, I personally feel Gura can also consistently create these story beats, while Kiara barely does so, mostly because her streams are constant zatsudans over game content.

>>11626531
>Irys should've debuted with Council IMO. She's so fucking good as a streamer.
people keep parroting this but she herself auditioned to be a vsinger, nothing wrong with that honest she can sit back and wait for her producer omega to give her some songs to sings while she streams with HoloEN

>>11626645
Yeah that kind of sucks for them, unarchived EN stuff is always a big hit for the Holos even if they can't directly monetize it. Sort of offsets them getting to play chink games. In fact, if I had to pick between the two, I'd rather have the ability to do unarchived karaokes for my branch. There's only a small number of decent chink games and getting rid of any possibility of streaming Genshin is actually a bonus.

>>11625785
>Is it because Suisei is just that strong?
I will never forget that collab where Suisei had to reinstall Apex. For the first hour or so, she had a still screen and was chatting with Matsuri, periodically telling people to go watch her instead, since Matsuri was actually playing the game. And through it all, she maintained 1k-3k viewers more than Matsuri and there was also a several k drop in Matsuri's numbers the moment Suisei got the game up and running. I mean, say what you will about Matsuri, but Suisei doesn't even know how to play that game and you could hear her anyway on Matsuri's stream.

>>11626304
This is true. On the other hand, her maintaining 9k viewers all the way through Luna's Birthday 3D despite telling viewers to go watch Luna and catche her archive later. Also it being the third part of a story-driven game where the previous two streams were 7½ and 8 hours long is nothing short of impressive regardless of how much Japan loves its RPGs.

I think there was a chart at some point showing Suisei to be a top 10 Holo in viewer retention. It seems as if her fanbase tunes in whenever she streams and stays for the entire duration. Previously I would have said that it's mostly because her streams tend to be relatively short, but with this I think there might be something else going on. After all, there were those trading cards or whatever they were posted here that had Suisei's be one of the more expensive and I think I also saw someone claim that on the aftermarket her merch tends to fetch some of the highest prices.

Right now, when it is
>4AM in Tokyo
>3PM in New York
>8PM in London / 9PM in Berlin

These are all the ongoing streams
>Ars Almal
>Axia Krone
>Millie Parfait
>Hana Macchia
>some assorted rifrag
>Korone

Whatever both Anykara and Cover were aiming to achieve when they added 23 streamers between them (Edengumi, NijiEN 1, 2 and 3, IRyS and Council) they seem to have failed miserably.

>>11627059
Unless there is some bug on Youtube side here is all of the already scheduled streams on the Hololive side
>next one is Suisei, 17 hours from now on JP primetime

Maybe the girls figured out something like "long running waiting rooms increase the chance of tagging the viewers as 'spam viewers'" but other than that it truly seems there is a drought of content for the EU primetime and NA afternoon

>>11627009
APEX is a debuff game for Matsuri isn't it? I don't think she ever converted much of her fans into APEX watchers despite getting better at the game. APEX is rare for Suisei so its sorta special.
>>11626924
But the sponsorship money bro. I swear FBK was gonna get some Arknights collab shit in before everything went down.

>>11627059
EU is so irrelevant

>>11627059
So only EUs have a good time to watch?

>>11626757
That's a very in-depth and interesting analysis. I've never thought about it that way, but I don't think a lot to begin with.
Personally, I just watch her because I used to watch a lot of traditional Twitch streamers, primarily ex-pros in popular esports games. There's a lot of impromptu collabs in games like that, so I value interaction and banter with teammates a lot. Selen's focus on collab streams and her dynamic with her guests fills that niche for me, and I like her solo content because it's always high-energy and she cycles between new games frequently.

>>11626612
Is this supporting that Tales is more popular in Japan?

>>11627059
There's also a few streams on Twitch with about 1k

>>11627226
>>11627228
The girls at the council (Fauna, in particular) talked about having to balance their schedule between good hours for EU and Aus. It is clear that they were brought onboard with that mandate
>branch out to fetch new audience over what Myth already got

There is a problem here tho: there isn't even a single stream with a reservation yet. Many people don't use Twitter, they have no way to know a stream is going to happen other than through Youtube.

>Calli-IRyS collab moved to 2 hours after Suisei thing
Crisis averted!

>>11627228
EU still only cares about Watame and Ina, possibly Korone, but she rarely streams into these hours anymore.
Anyone else mostly has their Jp insomnia audience.

>>11627269
It says that sales are higher in "Japan/asia" but that's like 2/3 of the world population

>>11627351
Thank RNGJesus. That is the god this thread worships, right?

>>11627408
Maybe his earthly representative

>>11627351
Where did you see that?
The original schedule was 7pm JST and them they corrected it to 9pm
Suisei's stream is also at 9pm JST

>>11627351
No?

>>11627540
I'm going to stream both at the same time just to piss you niggers off.

Suisei

>>11627676
Mori/IRyS

>>11627269
You could just do the math for yourself and see that the latest games are about a 50:50 split between Japan and NA/EU.

>>11627617
Does doing that on stuff like Holodex count views for both or don't count at all?
>>11627676
>>11627704
They've been lax about the don't stream over costume reveals/special events for awhile now.

>>11626612
Japan mogs the other 2 regions it is obvious it is more populare in japan.

>>11627491
>>11627540
>The original schedule was 7pm JST and them they corrected it to 9pm
Wait what? I thought the move forward was to avoid Suisei

>>11627914
Can't believe the numbers thread has people who can't even do simple addition and subtraction.

>Tales of Vesperia
Total sales 2,370,000
NA sales 810,000
EU sales 410,000
Japan/Asia sales 1,150,000

>Tales of Symphonia
Total sales 2,400,000
NA sales 940,000
EU sales 480,000
Japan/Asia sales 980,000

Then there's the latest Tales of Arise which is what's being streamed right now
https://gamingbolt.com/tales-of-arise-tops-japanese-charts-on-debut-with-over-200000-units-sold
>1,000,000 worldwide
>200,000 in Japan

The Tales series has had comparable popularity outside of Japan for quite some time now, this isn't 1998 anymore.

What do you guys thinks it's the most important? Views, subs or donos?

>In five minutes the Japanese morning will start, at 6AM
>It will also be 5PM in the US east coast
There is not a single ongoing stream on Hololive, and also not a single reservation for the next 3 hours.

Things are eerily silent

>>11628302
I mean if you assume that NA is roughly US and Japan/Asia is roughly Japan the population is roughly 3:1. Or you could just look at what's being streamed on Twitch and see Tales of Arise had 74K hours watched in the last week. Compared to say Rank #102 Maple Story which had 1.5M.

Or if you want a more interesting comparison, Kiara had about 122K watch hours for her playthrough counting only live viewers (no VODs). That's nearly half of what all of Twitch combined watched in September of 2021 (270K).

>>11630489
I don’t know what’s more but subs is easily the least important as it doesn’t correlate with any of the others.

>>11630506
>That's nearly half of what all of Twitch combined watched in September of 2021 (270K).
270k for tales alone?

>>11630489
Subs seems to correlate strongly with membership numbers if nothing else, but they don't generate revenue directly. We don’t' know enough about the premium/ad breakdown to know for sure, but it seems close enough that it would probably be dependent on the individual

>>11630489
Subs because thats what sponsors look at. Donos/superchat don't bring in the doosh like sponsors.

>>11630554
>Subs seems to correlate strongly with membership numbers if nothing else
I would like to see numbers for that, specially numbers including “twinned subs” like Haachama-Matsuri, Kiara-Ina and Ayame-Subaru, all of which had more or less the same number of subs for most of their careers

>>11630666
polls are the best way to check and dont happen often. i can see vod views on their memebers channels but it isnt a exact metric.
Is hard to tell hachama numbers after her memeber ship tier restructure. If i check the vod views of her memebr ship streams i see 3.6 to 4k for last months vods.
Subaru latest memebership video has 9.5k vod views.2 weeks ago.
Ina for her latest memeber video of work and chat had 7k views which is on par with the almost 8k of her poll.
Kiara latest memeber stream has 4.5k views.3 weeks ago.
My card was decline for matsuri renew so i wont have it until tomorrow again. never memebered ayame.

>>11631075
the fuck kiara has that many members?

>>11631075
>Ina for her latest memeber video of work and chat had 7k views which is on par with the almost 8k of her poll.
>Kiara latest memeber stream has 4.5k views.3 weeks ago.
Thanks anon. This should be enough to add a datapoint against any correlation between subs and membership.

>>11630553
My bad different sites label/chart them differently. Tales of Arise had 3.89M hours watched in calendar month September, and dropped to 270K in October. Majority of these hours are actually non English though, with JP, CN, and KR making up a huge portion of the early views. In the last 30 days the highest EN hours watched for Tales of Arise was 106K, 16K, and 15K, so Kiara is both #1 in EN and overall by quite a margin.

>>11631075
That sets your floor but engagement can vary wildly based on the stream and even the questions within the same stream I.e. Some questions members care a lot about, and others the answer is obvious very early vs a race to the end. So single data points here aren't as helpful as finding the max over a certain period.

>>11631075
How is Suisei?

>>11631546
I know
that is why i say it isnt that accurate. im tinking of checking the max vod viewrship of each month and see what i get but will ave to wait until i get out of work
>>11631546
same problem as matsuri with my card declined as it doesnt let me doo mutiple pays to google in a day so need to wait.So i usually rotate memeebrships torught the days of the month becasue of that.

>>11631779
first reply was to
>>11631385

>>11631132
Why are you surprised? Most of Council got 5k in lest than a month

>>11631546
>Suisei 12k
>Pekora 20k
>Noel 16k ( asmr stream )
>Aqua 16k ( 2.5 hour long )

>>11626531
>Irys should've debuted with Council IMO. She's so fucking good as a streamer.
Irys is quite proficient in a lot of things. It's good to see she's capitalizing on becoming more of a variety streamer than adopting a Azki model since relevancy of the streaming side helps a ton with music vod views.

>>11625158
still makes me laugh this is still a meme a year later.

>>11632656
looks like all our estimations were lowballing

oh amouranth got unbanned a week ago?
welp, i guess that is it for pekora, 2nd place still is a respectable trophy though

>>11632656
arent noel asmr public and then madeinto member?
>pekora 20k
same deal with pekoras kings glaive.

>>11632745
I mean, Amouranth is slowly declining as well compared what she used to pull off on numbers while Valkyrae has been inclining again.
https://twitchtracker.com/amouranth

>>11632656
Is funny how nobody bothered to check the views of members only streams to estimate how many members they could have.

>>11633005
That would imply there are many anonymous oil barons with a budget to member multiple chuubas for thus exact purpose.
As if seems there is only one (1): that anon

>>11632656
Also
>okayu 10k
>Friend 11k ( after her 3d )
>miko 12k ( yesterday )

>>11632656
were pekora watchalongs memeber only?
i see te anoucement ina public community tab

>>11619721
Does anyone know why that blonde forehead guy have low numbers? Wasn't he popular?

>>11632956
thats choco/haachama, noel's channel vods are full of asmrs

>>11633476
Forehead too big

>>11632656
Are you sure that Suisei stream isn't a watchalong? Because that one was a public stream with people jumping in and out being a real possibility, and only the archive was members' only.

>>11634300
She only did it once and I assume that anon is picking just the last stream, which is a zatsudan

>>11634443
Ah, I looked at the likes for some reason and thought he picked the highest one.

10/1 - 10/18

>Toya 13,189
>Mito 7,589 - the first time she ever got a sub 10k median views. 2018/06 - 2021/09 consistent 10k - 20k is over...

its over nijibros... the recline is real.

>>11622462
Even then he can only beat Pekora with Apex when its a tournament. Just regular Apex doesn't hit Pekora's numbers.

since there is nothing else to tlak about and nothing interesting is happening.
regarding memeberships
>roboco
watahclong 790views. however she has memeber only pics of her cat that reach 1k likes of 2 months old
>aki
2k views post outfit member stream
>choco
1.7k but that is from 3 months ago and would need to access another tier to see the views on her ASMR memeber only.
>flare
7k on a memebr stream3 weeks ago
>Ame watson
7.4k from vr chat hangout 2 weeks ago
>Mori
4k from karaoke and cat 2 weks ago
>watame
8k from memebrsheep stream 1month ago
>kanata
5.3k from watchalong some days ago and similar on a memeber talk last month
>luna
3k from chat stream
>polka
7k from asmr
>Nene
7.2k from chat stream
>marine
25k from a chat stream on septemebr.
if i check her past asmr she has one with 28k 4 months ago but not sure if that was public first.
>anya
667 memeber from a den visit
>reinie
2k from a fre tlak memeber stream
These are the rest i have access to for now.
Missing ID1,ollie,ayame,mel,towa,botan,irys and matsuri.
the last 4 i will have them tomorrow once my card passes again googlepay.
I aint going back beyond 2 months since i just want to see the most rcent floors. This are just floors and could be higher depending on the content

>>11634541
I don't take watchalong because they are they lowest for every vtuber

>>11635062
Gura?

>>11635645
16K from a membr poll and latest food review
hard to tell her unarchived since they arent archived.
HOWEVER her soft talk on july has 27k views

>>11635024
What happened to the Slow and Steady?

>>11636130
They're trying to outlive Hololive, the one true strategy to trump them all.
In other news, overlap time for NijiEN.
Reimu is gonna struggle.

>>11636596
what a terrible slots and content for both rosemi and reimu. technically is only overlapping 2 real streams since elira is doing sueprchat reading.

>>11636596
>First spanish stream
>superchat party
esta vieja esta loca

>>11636596
>Outlive Hololive
>Streams almost every day
They're gonna burn out faster

>>11637283
they wont burn out. but they will run out of buff content fast.

>>11636596
>outlive
Considering Hololive is not only older than Nijisanji, but also more successful, I don't see this strategy working out too well.

>>11624235
Subaru is more GAMERS than Fubuki at this point.

>>11636596
Ethryia 10/18
>Millie 1,544
>Enna 1,413
>Reimu 1,199
>Nina 1,190

approaching 3 digits now...

Seems like Reimu has found her niche
Not even half an hour and she has already earned more than in her JP and EN superchat celebrations
The one in english was $557

>>11638086
>jp and en
that tittle as nothing En about it.

>>11638142
The EN is the one she did last week during Selen's phasmo
The one right now is the ES which I'm saying might be her new niche seeing how well she's doing today

>>11622320
korone fans are whores

>>11638440
That's your takeaway, not that Nousagi are EVERYWHERE it seems?

>>11630506
Ah yes, the population is higher therefore there are more sales but a smaller percentage of people are engaged in watching the game's streams. What was this called again, dead sales? I guess it's simpler for you to dismiss the sales numbers and construct a narrative where Tales is just far more popular in Japan despite having almost equal (or in Arise's case, more) sales outside of the country.

>>11638230
so let me get this starigt
she has done 3 SUPERCHAT PARTIES in different languages?
seems like a short term startegy. Even cocos spanish streams lost steam so i dont see her doing better with this kind of niche.

>>11638086
>>11638230
>three superchat celebrations
I usually skip superchat openings so maybe I missed it, but has anyone else done multiple before?

>>11638934
Its certainly nothing I've seen HoloEN do, and I'm pretty sure no Holo has done multiple superchat celebrations. They've done Superchat celebrations + catchups (Often with SC off for the catchup).

Gura:
20k, despite fighting OBS and wacky settings for RE7 for the first 20+ minutes of the stream. She'll keep climbing until Mumei gets on with BOTW and she bleeds a bit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQyDvzyXJVE

>RE7
>Uncontested hour (9 AM JP time)
>21k and not even an hour pass

>>11638086
Nijisanji is trying to expand the viewer pool with wave 3 and wave 4. Did anyone take notice that they hired a Russian and a Spanish speaker in the same wave?

>>11639372
How much of Gura fans are also Mumei fans? Pretty sure Gura has the least overlap among HoloEN

>>11639372
Ngl 20k is a little underwhelming for a RE game, even if Gura has more than triple numbers than all nijis combined streaming at the moment.

>>11639851
Nijiniggers Go back

>>11639795
they are called niches for a reason
cant expand the pool efectively when you yourself are niched and then appeal to another niche.
Spanish vtubers are not on high demand neither are russians. You are better doing things that both spanish and russian like doing or watching. Not just talking their language.
That is why they stuck with botan for so long

>>11639851
-She played Re:8 before this, so out of order
-She said she's basically been spoiled for many parts of the game, which is another debuff
-This game is older than re:8
If she didn't also have some eye-blinding scuff near the start where she had HDR on (which apparently doesn't work right with OBS) she'd probably have better numbers, but dems the breaks.

>>11639851
Ina got as much CCV on RE7 as her minecraft stream. RE7 stream is as good as a minecraft stream.

>>11638804
well she is the queen

>>11639808
Ame 25.7%
Ina 25.7%
Mumei 23.9%
Kronii 21.5%
Bae 21.2%
Kiara 20.2%
Mori 19.4%
IRyS 19.2%
Fauna 19.0%
Sana 16.5%

>>11640017
So, consider FPS is kinda RU's niche

What is ES's niche?

>Rosemi statrts
>everybo numbers decrease
good all canibalization

>>11640548
lower quality shooters.

>>11640548
Drama.

>>11640548
>FPS
>Niche

>>11640548
Garena Free Fire

>>11639851
Peaked at 23k but Mumei started her stream

>>11620393
HUGE Ayame penis

>>11640368
So either Gura could lose 23.9% of views
or Mumei will have 23.9% less views than expected.

>>11640649
How many chuubas are playing CS? R6? Old CODs?
The only sub-genre that is even remotely popular is BR, and even then it's still just fucking APEX

>>11640548
>What is ES's niche?
Idk anon, they like the same things as english, Minecraft maybe, a lot of spanish youtubers pulls really good numbers at minecraft

>>11640037
First branch play is always a bonus, it drops off after that because a lot of the audience has already seen it. It's a good reason Holos shouldn't just replay stuff other people already have, unless it's a tradition/meme game like Plug n Play, Getting Over It, Jump King, Stickman ect.

>>11640548
LOL and RTS
I wonder how her viewership will be when she finally streams AoE2

>>11641179
It's also why everyone jumps in on the same game when one Holo starts to play it. That, and the algo boost of various channels playing the same game.
>>11640867
Looks like Mumei's got less viewers. RE7 + Spook month is a bigger draw than the next installment of BOTW.

>>11639851
>20k
>underwhelming
>is probably going in the top 5 highest CCV for the day outside of random powers that be
>underwhelming

>>11641437
Well, nta but its a bit underwhelming until you factor in what I stated here >>11640027
For comparison, her Re:8 numbers across 4 streams (Peaks)
34.9k
31.3k
25.6k
34.5k
Of course, viewer numbers are also a bit seasonal, with numbers traditionally being a bit worse in Sept/Oct vs other months, but eh that's probably a bit too much of a stretch.

>>11641963
R 8, a new game after all...

>>11640548
>What is ES's niche?
Spanish songs. Especially, If she can sing very lively festive Spanish songs.

>>11641963
She played RE8 close to release, which is obviously a considerable buff for well hyped games like it.

is it the nijien strategy to farm superchats in all languages?

R 2(Remake)
Peaks:
23.2k
23.2k
22.7k

>>11642659
No, my friend, it's called "gaining a fanbase and bringing in new untapped potential" and totally not another form of cope.

>>11642737
Hm, so par for the course for non-buffed (near release) RE game that isn't terrible.

>>11642867
She doesn't have much opposition atm anyway

>>11642659
Probably realize they aren't gonna grow much more in the EN market so they're trying to give their streamers a wider viewer base. Also maybe a bit of a scouting effort to gauge interest in future markets. ES/RU are the two most commonly cited ones for expansion by Hololive and Niji (besides KR which Niji already has a branch for).

>>11643149
I agree, but same for three of her RE2

>>11643345
Seems to be working out well for Reimu

>>11640548
DBZ
>>11642659
Well nothing wrong with that.

mori mogging gura on twitter numbers
https://twitter.com/moricalliope/status/1450011161424842759?t=j34W-anHCraVUo15n5TBVw&s=19
https://twitter.com/gawrgura/status/1450029749120667653?t=mRKlqGgPgs_7kQvPutOh3Q&s=19

>>11621166
you could just view them as the most well-rounded; most of them are pretty good, no great discrepancies like with most of the other gens.

>>11643649
you cant tell that by one stream.
see coco spanish streams in a row

>>11642659
Not nijien really. Nina has confirmed that she has to go ask higher-ups herself to be able to do rus only stream. Maybe she told that to other girls and Reine decided to ask about the es one.

Reimu made half her revenue from single Spanish stream

>>11640548
I was about to suggest this >>11640737

>>11646534
She's only made $2500 since debut?

>>11644973
How about Kiara? She's the one that post first in HoloEN right? does this number really means anything Kek

>>11644973
oh nyoooooo

>>11647143
yup
even nina only did 5k and that is with mutloiple zatsu on different languages

Today's superchats

>Finished Mumei stream
>Return to Gura
>She's still at 20k

Damn, so Hoomans and Chumbuds don't overlap much ...

>>11647363
>NijiEN is midget numbers
>Elira in 3rd
>Calli in 8th
Oh no oh no oh no Holobros???

Baits are so shit, weak and uncreative nowadays. Try harder.

>>11647628
>Mori with a fucking watch-a-long
>Elira with bday karaoke + song celebration
Kek, Keep coping and seething nijicuck

>>11647823
2k for a watchalong? Ridiculous.

>>11647164
kiara is a midget kek
https://twitter.com/takanashikiara/status/1449884449945137157?t=aWIXhmqcMDlPZK-YZ2PKBg&s=19

>>11648063
also, kiara is the only myth who isnt verified on twitter yet

>>11644973
Mori's twitter game is stronger than Gura. Her KING tweet got more likes than Gura's KING tweet.

>>11648225
Gura barely does anything other than tweet out her stream and like some fanarts.

Is it payday in Japan? Why is Pikamee getting spammed with Red Superchats?

>>11648017
Idk how Mori's fans treat their money but her last watch-a-along is also 2k+

>>11647626
Peaks BOTW
10.7k
9.7k
.....
6.6k

>so Hoomans and Chumbuds don't overlap much ...
I don't think so.

>Suisei outfit
>Okayu/Mio karaoke
>IRyS/Mori karaoke

Any other number magnets tonight?

>>11647823
>Elira with bday karaoke + song celebration
Wasn't that a day before?

>>11647628
Elira
>BD karaoke
>2.8k SC
Calliope
>watchalong
>2.2k SC
you were saying?

>>11648321
16/17 reds on a random SC stream so far
it'a pika day i guess

>>11647823
>>11649070
Let's actually be fair and compare Elira and Mori's birthday streams.

https://playboard.co/en/video/tDXvkK_MLl0
https://playboard.co/en/video/NiziRRHFZGA

>>11647363
checked playboard
Nina got 1.5k SC forRU freechat

>>11647363
manjisanji????????

>>11649213
ESL wave is working out.

>>11649070
Big number > small number
Face it Holofaggots, your whores are reclining

>>11649196
See?>>11649309
they will always cope and seethe Kek, no matter what metric you choose to show them they will cherry pick numbers that favor their oshi, no wonder the only one that can compete against Holo is in NijiJP

>>11649309
Posts like this makes me want to be a tribalfag

>>11649439
>they
that shitter do not even watch/care about nijiEN
just another "(u)s farmer".

>>11648321
pika teaching them numbers

>>11621647
Same day last year.

>>11651669
Holy recline

>>11651669
I blame YT for hiding the glorious numbers

>>11630489
>>11630576
The anon didn't ask about it but for streamers like hololive their live viewer count probably factors in for stream sponsors and the payout you can get as well as what brands even want your numbers.
I would say though that I think subs are the best out of the three. Donos are chump change once you get big enough, which holos are definitely at, and views feels like a reflection of content style and sub count. Subscriber is a decent measuring stick of your worth as a youtuber.

Prediction starts now anon

welp holo ID 1 will get new outfit on the 20th, 3 winning strike for holos starting today

>>11652024
>20,21,22 oct
Not relay?
why does gen1 hate numbers?

>>11648860
She earned around 10k with bday karaoke and celebration. This time, it's 200k sub celebration plus SC reading.

>>11652066
>3 winning strike for holos

>Iofi
>Risu
+this>>11652099
im not sure about it anon

>>11644973
Mori released hers an hour earlier and the difference is 1.2k.
I wouldn't call it a mogging but Mori does get the point.

>>11652185
Moona might make, I dunno, 40k? Depends on the order. Though if they want even-ish numbers they'll probably make Moona open.

>>11652181
>She earned around 10k with bday karaoke
>Super Chat Revenue $0
SCs doko?
https://playboard.co/en/video/Bp6L-NH3oZA

>>11652331
>they'll probably make Moona open.
anon there is no relay!

>>11652371
>and celebration
Reading comprehension reps?

>>11652466
>She earned around 10k with bday karaoke and celebration.
>0+10k=10k
makes sence

>>11652423
Ah. This en account and its shitty tls.
Three day thing, I hope it is 45 minute long reveals then.
It is in the middle of JP primetime streams and you know people will be streaming over it.
We'll see.