/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>previous thread
I KNEW I MISSED SOMETHING FUCK FUCK FUCK

>>11570703
No... My Kronii can't be deceased...

>>11570763
Previous Thread: >>11561330

my legs hurt...

/∞/ is moving so fast

I love her, and I miss her so much

I KNOW YOU'RE /HERE/ KRONII LET ME IN I CAN SAVE YOU

>>11571210
I'll think about it.

>>11571210
I WROTE THIS POST AND I AGREE WITH MYSELF, I WILL SAVE YOU

SSSSSSSSSSSSEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

Just a friendly reminder that kronii hates streaming and she hates (You)

>>11571495
She hates you, you're right. She loves me though, sorry friend

JWU ourobros, I see the VOD is 4hrs+ how was it?

>>11571802
It caused a war in this general

>>11571903
Anon, thats basically every stream

>>11571802
chill as usual. kronii going gamer mode during the arena matches. a schizo sent an aggressive aka that kronii took pretty well. kronii giving a heart to a grayname's comment which caused a few of the members here to seethe. so yea, just another Tuesday.

>>11571802
Good! Kronii was really really cute, even more than usual! She'll make you want to hug her tight

>worked customer service before vtubing

damn yagoo saving the fucking day

>>11572027
Look at her go!

>>11572027
dayum. ina got them moves.

How is this rrat?

>>11571802
Prepare for 3 streams per week. She’s going for the absolute minimum

>>11572103
Uoohh...

>>11572103
Recovering...

>>11572170
I'll come back in about 20 hours to laugh at you.

My cute clock wife!

>>11571210
NO I WILL SAVE HER

why is kronii always the last one to post a schedule?

>>11572027
may I save this blessed gif?

We've been overrun with so many yesman newfags that asking a streamer to stream more is now considered to be "schizo". The main appeal of a Holo was seeing them develop and improve. But now we have so many "it's fine as long as she does what she wants" Redditors that Kronii will become the next Ayame. Every Holo is perfect as they are, they don't need to change at all. If it were up to these "people", Haachama would still be a generic tsundere, Korone's streams would still have an hour of "scuff" probably labeled the "Korone Curse" or something gay like that, and Nene would just being a boring blob of no personality in a chinese dress.

Fuck you. You're ruining what could be one of the best streamers in Hololive. With her voice and sense of humor, if she improved her zatsudan skills and streamed more, she'd be in the top tier in no time. Fans should push and inspire their oshi to even greater heights. Instead you'd have her stagnate, probably because you yourself are stuck in a dead end low paying job, you never exercise, and you never do anything outside of your comfort zone so you never grow. And you're hellbent on dragging Kronii down with you. I hate you all so much.

>>11571802
WW3 almost started because an anon broke containment with a red SC

>>11573558
Saving the best for last

>>11573558
because SHE HATES mogging her genmates so she doesn't want to overlap them

don't reply to it

>>11573565
I hope she read that, anon

>>11573558

>11573565
hoo boy that's a whole lot of assumptions my man

>>11573558
This >>11573690
If tomorrow isn't the due date, today isn't the do date.

Why is she so cute?

>>11573565

>>11573702
It's what I see. You're all content to sit in mediocrity, but Kronii is a streamer, an entertainer, so no reason she should dwell down there with you failures. When's the last time any of you tried something new?

>>11573565
sir this is a mcdonalds

RRAT

>>11573690
>walking at night
Is there a fic about that yet?

>>11573565
ok

>>11573777
The reward for being a successful entertainer is having to work less to make end's meet. Spending all her time streaming is probably the least impressive thing she could do, and probably wouldn't even improve her earnings that much.

>>11573617
>>11573702
>>11573768
If Kronii does decide to stream more often and go beyond now, I hope you fags choose to leave then.

Kronii brapped THREE TIMES.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXJoX-5-A0Q&t=6839s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXJoX-5-A0Q&t=6852s
https://youtu.be/fXJoX-5-A0Q?t=6855

>kronii immediately stops and sits up motionless as soon as it happens
>the second fart she gets wide-eyed and silent staring off to the side
>doesn't say anything for like 30 seconds, letting the others cover it up thinking it was something else

Right after the 2nd fart at 1:54:12, Bae asks at 1:54:14 "Was that Animal?" Then following that the one person that should know Mumei asks at 1:54:18 "Do you hear an Animal?" followed soon by Bae repeating the question but wants to know. Mumei then responds with Animal also angry it seems. The smoking gun though is at 1:54:25 when Bae says "Kronii you've done it this time, you've angered the animal."

If you have good headphones you can also hear that Kronii farted a 3rd time at 1:54:15 going into 1:54:16 it's masked by Sana's loud voice but you can hear it. Also the 3rd fart sounds like what the ripple effect of a smaller fart after the main one happens sound like.

I would also like to say the fact there were 3 farts all close together rules out the animal as it's more of a sign of upset tummy because an animal wouldn't make sounds so close and low audible.

At the end of the day I conclude it was fart but the group picked up on it fast and tried to play it off as a joke. This is farther supported by the fact they were all super confused despite hearing Mumei's actual animal in multiple other calls.

>>11573565
i agree with you wholeheartedly anon.

Friendly reminder to hide and ignore bait and shitposts. Don't engage with someone if they aren't being semi-rational.

I wonder if she'll be part of whatever Baelz and Mumei put in their schedule as ???

>>11573828
Night walks with Kronii!

>>11573565
This but unironically.

>>11573928
This is the mindset of the unsuccessful. People who are successful work even harder so that they can grow and improve, in sports, in music, in whatever they accomplish. They have that hunger, that drive to continue to succeed. Unless you're Ben Simmons, who is like the Ayame of the NBA.

>>11573928
>the reward for being a successful entertainer is having to work less
nta but you have a disgusting mind
>Spending all her time streaming is the least impressive thing she could do
the fuck are you even saying, are you listening to yourself?

>>11573943
they won't, because they also want her to stream more. they just refuse to tell her this either because they're whipped and hope for a crumb of attention by being one of her yesmen, or because they're terrified of imposing on a woman.

Why do brapfags brappost? What are they trying to prove? It's just their dumb fetish but their posts are worded like they're exposing a yab.

>>11573565
Some tough love is always required. It helped Mori do better with her memberships (if people just accepted that, she still would've had a tier with literally no rewards), it helped Kiara find a balance between Japanese and English, etc. You have to make your complaints be heard.

>>11573565
EN2 is streamers's retirement home. It's time for you to get the memo anon.

>>11574044
There isn't any normal person on the planet that'd be impressed by someone who wasted their twenties streaming videogames all day everyday

>>11573565
What’s the point if she herself doesn’t want to be better? She asked for criticisms but she never really followed and only seek for a compromise. She basically was forced to stream minecraft once a week because people were getting annoyed with her off stream antics, not helping when she always talks about doing this and that off stream. Gura even gave her the talk and encouraging her to stream more and that she doesn’t need to constantly worry about being entertaining when people will stay for you being you, and as we see she didn’t take her advice obviously. Like I said, anything you say to her will just fall on deaf ears and you’ll only get constant cop outs. She’s going to be like this for the rest of her career.

>>11574097
the problem is the only ones with money are schizos with no indoor voice (all tough, no love, like the schizo today) or near-yesmen like gabe who want her to do whatever she wants because it makes him happy when she acknowledges him. fuck, the only one who was properly tough-love about this "stream more" thing was archivefag and right after that his well dried up.

>>11574041
>so naïve
You should follow some managers and CEO's for a day and look at them "working their assess off"

You really think aggression is going to solve anything? Bitch, she laughed at you and called you salty and then said she has no interest in showing all her offstream Minecraft progress, and then when Gabe runs over with 100 dollars saying something sappy she thanks him and actually considers his opinion.

>>11574122
Why are you here then?

>>11574122
Have you ever heard of Jerma? Literally any major e-celeb? Millionaires. You know what they did? Streamed video games and worked themselves to the bone on that video game content. In their early 20s. You are out of touch and coping with your inadequacy. Get a clue.

>>11574097
I will be the first to admit that there are actual schizos out there who would have Holos install cameras in their heads like that one guy did for an experiment for a year so we can see them do everything like go to the bathroom and sleep. But nowadays, even suggesting that a streamer stream more (shocking concept I know) is considered schizo by this fucking hugbox.

>>11574087
The thinking man's fetish.
I listen to kronii brapping out kimchi gas every night.

>>11573943
why would i do that
how much this bitch streams and why is not my concern, i take content when it comes and watch other streamers or hell, do other things entirely, when it doesn't

>>11574124
>accepting everything fans demand is improvement
retard

>>11574291
>demand
she asked for criticism, got it, and barely did anything about it.

>>11573565
But I agree with you, anon. I want Kronii to stream more and pushovers that just say "no you do you my queen" are a pain. But you know the problem isn't me or you, its the genuine nutjobs that go beyond shitposting to demand she streams blockgame or moan about literally anything schedule wise. There are 2 extremes and I fucking hate both of them, fuck yesmen and fuck schizo autists. I just want her to stream more but to gently push the boat out gradually and find her groove.

>>11574291
Kronii herself acknowledges that people can give their criticisms to her, that's why she even gave that dude an answer instead of just ignoring it like some of the superchats she got.

>>11574124
If she doesn't want to stream Minecraft she won't stream Minecraft. Keep on sending seething akas, she'll just go 'ooh somebody sounds a bit salty' and reiterate the same point she's made over and over again. Frankly I respect her more for putting her foot down instead of crying and immediately caving in to a strongly worded aka.

>>11574124
This defeatist attitude is shit because in the beginning Mori not only didn't want to improve, but had real life "friends" who were actively dunking on her and the Hololive lifestyle. She went through many ups and downs and she's in a pretty good place now. That wouldn't have happened without her trying new things and going far out of her comfort zone. I'm not going to say it was all because of fans pushing her, but they played a role. Which is what Kronii's fans should be doing.

AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEE TASUKETE JOEL-KUN!! THE TIMELOOP IS HAPPENING AGAIN!!!

>>11574227
Nope, money doesn't equal being impressive. You think every person that's a millionaire is automatically impressive? Sad

>>11574033
I usually dont care for fluff stories but I really need that one
fluffanon please... I will never make jokes about you dressing up as kronii ever again...

>>11574333
not even that anon but same

>>11573565
Just give it up anon, she can't improve if she isn't interested in improving at all in the first place, because she already "made it".
She is half way to 1M subs and is getting a shitton of money by streaming three hours, 3 times / week, and when she's not streaming she's either sleeping or playing something else offstream for 12 hours, so what's the point?

>>11574333
>I want more streams so everyone else also does
You honestly can't realise some of us really don't care and aren't as addicted as you.

>>11574333
It just seems like there are so many yesmen or even yesmen falseflagging as genuine nutjobs to make any criticism seem schizo in these threads. If you want a hugbox go to Reddit, they only say positive things there. Why come pollute this place?

>>11574374
i'm glad mori is in a better place. i was a weak nigger and dropped her during one particular down in her ups and downs. i really should watch her again

>>11574374
And yet somehow it's been a full year and she still has the ear rape transition.

>>11574375
sorry, Joel's busy banging kronii
t. Joel

>>11574352
Difference between hearing criticism and blindly following it

>>11574418
Then why the fuck are you even here?

>>11574333
>demand she streams blockgame
That bit I dispute, because she's a minecraft autist (true) and all she'd have to do is hit "start streaming" when she's playing off-screen for 8 hours and would rake in money/views. She wouldn't even need to say anything, fuck I can see it now: "Kronii popped up in the dead of night playing Minecraft, we watched her for 8 hours and she didn't say a fucking word. unfathomably based"

>>11574418
>he doesn't want more streams
anon even if you have a job, more streams means more vods to come home to. more clips too if youre a clipfag. everyone wins if she streams more (willingly)

>>11574451
:(

>>11574400
>what's the point?
giving anon a reason to live

>>11574381
I'll think of something, I am a little tired from staying up all night though so gomen if I don't deliver

>>11574467
He is trying to validate himself by pretending to be above his actual feelings. All arguing with someone like that does is fatten their delusion, you're too smart to be bothering with people like that.

I would unironically have a lot of respect for Kronii if she started playing Minecraft on stream but not show a single bit of footage just so retards would have one final meltdown. Streamers that establish they are the ones in control and hold the final say over their lives are far more respectable than ones who just give into every demand.

>>11574477
If she doesn't stream I just do something else with my free time, I have more hobbies than just vtubers

>>11574473
i saw someone in the comments of today's vod subtly not-so-subtly begging for a void stream with this exact same premise. someone told him to SC but he said 'good idea' instead of 'i'll do that'. looks like all the people on this side of the argument are poor fags.

>>11574505
thank you

>>11574456
Im pretty sure it was you guys who were making a fuss that she'd fold to criticism, stream past her limits, collapse and not have fun anymore.

>>11574520
>Streamers that establish they are the ones in control and hold the final say over their lives are far more respectable than ones who just give into every demand.

>>11574539
Anon, He is archivebud...

>>11574400
See this kind of thinking is at best disingenuous and at worst actively malicious. It hasn't even been 3 months yet so I'm willing to give her the benefit of the doubt and assume she isn't just lazy and spiteful of her fans like Ayame. But she does need some encouragement, some criticism, not passive aggressive schizo ESL aka supas, but also not EVERYTHING YOU DO IS FINE yesman niggers. I believe that Kronii is willing to improve, she just isn't sure of herself yet because she's most likely depressed and thus unmotivated.

>>11574520
Faggots like you are even more retarded than the block game autists

>>11574520
So you respect how Matsuri is right now?

>>11574527
and like i said, we all still win if she willingly streams more. i have a job and play video games more than i watch chuubas, but i still want her to stream more because i enjoy her the most out of all my hobbies

>>11574291
She only likes the criticisms that she WANTS to hear. Do you remember how disappointed she sounded when people wanted to see her stream more minecraft? I’ll give her that she has massive cojones for saying that next week’s schedule will be light after this week’s shit schedule, she’s not as spineless as I initially thought.

>>11574381
>it’s night time
>i’m out walking
>kronii is there too
you’re welcome. can’t wait to have this story immortalized in the archives

>>11574614
Matsuri is based.

>>11574539
I doubt they're all poorfags, but maybe they are all poor fags, kek

>>11574520
Do you really expect someone that already has impostor syndrome to do a void stream?

>>11574527
You could also choose to, you know, skip those streams/vods if you have other more interesting things?

>>11574623
I genuinely wouldn't have a problem if she never streamed minecraft again, but that's only if she doesn't spend hours offstream on the server

>>11574646
Not a void stream. Literally playing Minecraft with the cam off, like while reading SCs or something. Letting people actively know she's playing Minecraft, but also that she won't show them a single bit of them. It would be the ultimate power move.

>>11574505
You a real one

I want to be rapes by the clock!!!!

>>11574539
I don't know if you have noticed this, but I remember Kronii once saying something like
>That is not the correct way
Referring to streaming, I have the feeling that she has a mental image of what streaming should be and she tries to do that, even if people want other types of strams.

>>11574679
No, that's just literally retarded.

>>11574623
I dread to learn what a light schedule looks like if this wasn't

>>11574641
Yeah, based on some dudes cock

>>11574645
Some of them are just more discreet, in particular one of the superchats she just received earlier had the message "stream funds" implying he was paying her to stream more.

>>11574679
Sounds like something some bitchy 15 year old would do

>>11573565
I'm never watching a Kronii stream that isn't a Minecraft one.
I'm not going to live with false hopes that will keep corroding my enthusiasm.
I'm not going to oshi'd a person who gives the bare minimum.
It's time to move on.
I think it's the best for everyone.

>>11574679
Maybe Kronii should have sex on screen with her boyfriend, that would truly be the ultimate power move and show who has the power here.

>>11574477
It's the 'willing' part that I'm concerned about. I'd love for Kronii to stream more, but I wouldn't enjoy it if she's also not enjoying doing so. Sending seething or passive aggressive akas in some kind of effort to pressure her into streaming more when she just isn't in the kind of position where she'd actually have a fulfilling experience actually streaming more is just a one way ticket into having short, boring streams where Kronii isn't in the mood and doesn't care.
Like sure I guess you can argue "if she doesn't like streaming that often she shouldn't have been a streamer", but that's kind of an irrelevant argument now that we're here now. I think everyone can agree that a stream that the streamer doesn't enjoy doing isn't a stream worth watching at all, regardless of what game they're playing or what they're doing.

>>11574764
She never wanted to be the darling of the gen anyhow, wouldn't be surprised if it's honestly all intentional debuff behavior, like that weird hole Gura dug herself into when she exploded at first

>>11574679
All she really has to do is log in and afk during a stream, would be hilarious

>>11574766
>>11574724
yeah, me

>>11574699
She could do it once, but definitely not regularly, and definitely not as much as she's been playing mc

>>11574679
Be even more based if she showed a nazi symbol on screen and call her viewers niggers.

Why does everything have to be an extreme with you yesmen faggots? Can't it just be that she accepts some criticism without "blindly following everything Anon says"? Can't we ask her to stream more without demanding it becomes her fucking life? I'm not even asking her to stream 40 hours a week, which is the minimum if you have a job.

What's even the point, she doesn't want to stream more mc than she does now, but she does want to play more mc, because the two aren't the same experience as she's explained (and we've explained endlessly to you retards beforehand).

>>11574840
>Why does everything have to be an extreme with you yesman faggots?
It's a cheap argumentative tactic that hinges on trivializing the opposing statement while conveniently sidestepping the obligation to formally counter. A coward's tactic for cowardly people.

>>11574837
Kronii on a bridge!

>>11574608
>benefit of the doubt
sorry anon. she's either incredibly stubborn and set in her ways until it blows up in her face, or genuinely lazy and uncaring. she knows fans for the most part want to watch more of her. she has to know.
>said "i'm surprised you guys want to watch that, i'll think about it" five times before finally talking about doing it
>not even gura giving her advice onstream with an audience could change her mind
>a collab with mumei and showed off some progress made offstream, she asked chat if its okay that she did that offstream and chat said they want to watch it - she sounded frustrated and immediately changed topic
>the schizo aka today
she knows. she has to know. but as >>11574699 said, she has this version of streaming in her head that only plays out exactly one type of way. she always talks about only showing interesting stuff or definitive progress - she talked about it just today on hollow knight. she is set in her ways and will only figure out that it doesn't work like that is when fans start dropping her. the problem is that this is probably okay with her, and she well and truly will never improve
all that or she's just lazy, kek

>>11574679
You know what, even that would be an improvment. Unironically. Because then at least she'd be there and interacting with the community. I feel like a lot of people who are attacking the "stream more" crowd think we're all a bunch of Block Game autists. I don't give a fuck about Minecraft. But Kronii likes it so if that's something she's going to do anyways, I'd like to see it cause it means she'd be there.

Imagine the collective aneurysm on this thread when she reveals a 4 break sched next week

We're all like this, and yet when she streams again, the thread will calm down

>>11574932
Assuming you're arguing in good faith, which I doubt you are, you can go get fucked. Fucking MORI of all people improved, yes it took her a lot longer than any other Holo, but she eventually got it through her thick skull. Kronii is definitely not as stubborn or stupid as Mori is, so there's hope for her too.

>>11574932
>>a collab with mumei and showed off some progress made offstream, she asked chat if its okay that she did that offstream and chat said they want to watch it - she sounded frustrated and immediately changed topic
Sounds to me like she wants the adoring fanbase audience like Mumei and Fauna, just fuck off, she doesn't want you in her audience, she wants me

>>11574998
So what you're saying is

If Kronii streamed all the time, we'd always be calm.

Game set match, yesmen

>>11574951
This. The guy making that post is a retard who probably has no idea what the "void" stream Fubuki did was.

>>11574987
kek, I'll be taking a vacation if that happens

>>11574917
I swear that type of argumentation wasnt that common before like 2018 online but now its everywhere

>>11575010
>improvement is an objective thing

>>11575031
He's probably a newfag. I also don't care for Hollow Knight. It doesn't interest me in the least. But I listen to it because I want to hear Kronii.

>>11574932
I think you're catastrophizing it a bit. Yeah, Kronii definitely has an idealized image of 'streaming' possibly spurred on by the famous streamers she knows of like Jerma or Vinesauce where they're basically always talking, always doing something, rarely ever doing something the audience might consider 'boring'.
But that doesn't mean she'll be pigeonholed in that role forever. She just needs to find something she's more comfortable with. Part of this means learning to accept that people are more flexible in what they like to watch than she thinks she does, of course, but it also means trying new things. Clearly, she treats Minecraft like a comfort game and has no real interest in having chat around when she plays it, so what else can she do? Think about that. Maybe send akas suggesting she try out games she hasn't played before. Send akas suggesting she try out games you think she'd like. Send autistic akas asking if she might be interested in watching that one Bionicle movie or whatever. It doesn't have to be Minecraft all the time, and it was clearly an unhealthy habit for her anyway (she stayed up 12 HOURS playing that game) that even concerned her fellow talents and management.

Hey guys what's happening in this thre-

>>11575047
buncha teenage retards cut their teeth on noncommittal political bullshit for the last 5 years, shikata ga nai anon-kun

>>11574227

youre mostly right but theyre not quite millionaire yet and the biggest streamers at this point are like late 20s-early 30s. they all streamed for years at poverty level before streaming started to pick up

Me and the boys discussing vtuber Minecraft habits

>>11575051
If you're really going to try and make the argument that Mori hasn't improved, I'd advise you to just go ahead and eat a bullet now.

>>11575076
What no Kronii does to someone, and it hasn't even been a day

>>11575019
More like she wants the yesmen audience. This how you end up with current ame.

>>11575010
i didn't want to bring up mori because you and i both know mori is someone who wants to get to the best version of herself. she overworked herself for months after debut because she had these impossible expectations of herself - yes she's stupid and stubborn but in such a way that she wants to improve, her way only. she wants to be the best version of herself as a hololive member while still being seen as cool by her "friends" and juggling at one point two actual jobs and a roommate career while putting out an entire album
but you look at kronii, you see a neet with no other obligations except one song, somehow streaming less hours than that version of mori.
kronii won't improve on her own, and will doubly not improve with her fans falling at her feet to let her stagnate.

>>11575105
>Meanwhile at /infinity/

>>11575076
just hide until she drop her schedule

>>11575105
meanwhile in reality

>>11575169
>she wants to be the best version of herself as a hololive member
For the longest time she didn't though. She initially thought Hololive would be a short side gig and that EN would flop. Then EN exploded and she was thrust upon a bunch of new expectations that nobody forsaw. Hololive eventually became her main job, but she was resistant as fuck to that for months.

>>11575072
i admit i got a little doomy there. your post is way better because it offers solutions. people should start doing this.

>>11575072
>she treats Minecraft like a comfort game and has no real interest in having chat around when she plays it
This. Honestly we should get her into a game where chat interaction makes it more fun

>>11575169
I don't think Kronii is lazy. I think she's just depressed or something, or maybe even menhera. She definitely has some kind of issue, that's for sure; she barely eats, barely drinks, has perpetual insomnia, stays up for twelve hours straight playing games, clearly has confidence/image issues...
If she wants to stream more, that's gonna have to clear up somehow. We as an audience have no right or qualifications to play therapist for her, so the best we can do is push her (and I do mean push, not fucking dropkick like that one aka) into streaming more if possible.

>>11574987
Well, she did say that her schedule will be "lighter", even though she originally had 3 breaks this week, so a 4 break (or more) schedule is actually very likely.

>>11575181
>hide from the chemical weapons until the nuke drops!

>>11575072
Wanting to always be talking or doing something isn't wrong, that's the basics of streaming.
You can diverge from it sometimes for effect but long term not talking isn't feasible.
The problem is more that she doesn't seem to know how to talk while streaming or what to talk about in the first place. Especially for Minecraft you can't rely on the game giving you something at most times.
She definitely should stop just replaying games on stream though, that's such a weird thing that I don't even understand why she'd do it.
Especially when you compare it to EN1 who basically avoid replaying stuff as much as they possibly can

>>11575101
>at this point
They didn't start streaming this year, is the thing. All of them started when they were much younger. That's why Jerma is the example I primarily picked out, he was JUST getting into his mid 20s when he blew up. He and Star were both quite young when they were the old metric of popular. Also, when in doubt, can always cite pewdiepie, but that's akin to hitler argument in this context.

>>11575076
>>11575124
>>11575176
>>11575213
>Hurr durr memes the thread is on fire guys
I'd say this discussion so far is relatively peaceful, people are debating. There's no doxx or shit being flung around, if you want a thread that just goes and sings praises about how great the streamer is all the time, go to Reddit for that.

>>11575241
>She initially thought Hololive would be a short side gig and that EN would flop.
Literally all of EN1 thought that

>>11575261
it's worst, she is a gamer

>>11575317
>implying I'm not taking part in the shitshow

>>11575261
so push her to go see a therapist, gotcha

>>11575241
yet she gave it her all during that period of EN blowing up. again, she was somehow putting out an EP while doing two IRL jobs and finishing off her roommate's prior engagements. all this while streaming more than hikki-neet kronii in that same timeframe.

>>11575317
>implying there aren't threads like that on /vt/

>>11575326
Great and they all adjusted to it being their main thing, even more evidence that Kronii can adjust.

>>11575263
My Kropium tells me that she is not going have collabs this week + 3 breaks

Bros... Why did our oshi have to be weird? Why does everyone else get stable streaming schedules and normal posters?

>>11575261
>(and I do mean push, not fucking dropkick like that one aka)
kek
but yeah i see your point

>>11575393
Kronii being weird is why I am here

>>11575368
I'm not even implying that these particular threads aren't like that sometimes. I'm just saying right now, I'd consider this to be normal discussion and that's fine. People are too quick to label even normal discussion as schizoposting or timeloops or a dumpster fire, that's how much of a hugbox this place has become.

>>11574520
I don’t even care what she would do or play, as long as it’s something new and she streams more. desu I couldn’t really care of her HK streams because she already played it and finished it before and she’s making it longer than it should be which feels like a drag.

>>11575261
Let's make it so streaming becomes her way to cope with mental health issues, like how omaruza did with Polka.
Imagine her becoming more and more dependant on us, that would be amazing.

>>11575317
I just miss her :(

Pre-schedule /∞/ is always a wild experience

I don't want Kronii to play more Minecraft. I want Kronii to play a new game. She was so fucking cute when she saw that backers area for the first time, why can't we have more of that?

>>11575393
What I want to know is why did Kronii of all people get so many schizo's

>>11575430
Because people get blockfags mixed up with people who just want her to stream more, but aren't obsessed with seeing every little thing she does on the mc server

>>11575445
i regret not watching more polka when she came out - she was my favorite but then i remembered i don't fucking speak nihongo. we need to learn from the omaruza how they got her to be like that, and also learn how she stopped being like that so we can prevent it.

All these infighting really shows the weaknesses of one of the "strengths" /infinity/ has boasted about when compared to the other splits: allowing a wide range of posters that aren't just interested in only Kronii. Letting other fanbases in here has caused Kronies, who should be dedicating their love to Kronii, splitting their attention and interests in other girls, which is why they aren't as bothered by it and will even actually talk about those other girl's streams here instead of going to the appropriate threads. These guys are also going to be the ones who will choose to watch those other girls if they have a "more interesting" stream than what Kronii is doing when the streams overlap.

As splits are, its supposed to be primarily on wanting to see more of their oshi as well as caring for her to improve. If any of you guys check out Matsuri's general, even those people still dedicated to her would tell you they want her to stop playing Apex and not play with males as much. Matsuri is surely doing well in the monetary department with all the sponsorships she's part of and how she gets promoted. But because they like Matsuri and know of how good she can be outside of Apex, they also want her to be loved more by other people. They don't want Matsuri to be just for themselves.

>>11575393
who are you kidding? this week was awful for all council

>>11575393
Because concept like "normal" and "stable" do not exist in thread whose foundation made with nothing but power of SEEEEEEEEEEX. It was always gonna be wild ride and its too far gone to change the course. And Kronii's own schizo tendencies only enhanced this further.

>>11575010
But unlike Kronii, Mori then had 3 fucking jobs + streaming.

>>11575393
You mean why can't we deal with it when schedules are even a tiny bit off.
Owlcucks didn't even get one and yet they seem fine.

>>11575478
mommy voice attracts people with mommy issues

>>11575257
Okay, I'll give you a serious answer to this. Kronii's issue can't be fixed, and the reason is due to her own nature. She only has so much streaming she can mentally, physically tolerate on a given day. That is purely because of the social aspect of it, and nothing else. You could think of every fun, actually good chat interaction game, and all it'd do is take from the time she already has set for herself, not add to it.

It's why so much of this discussion is not actual arguments and just shitposting out of boredom. It isn't about if she'll stream more or if it's a problem with a solution, it's all about the rrat game.

My own personal opinion is that she feels terrible that she can't be the kind of person who could stream 20 hours of herself, but is experienced enough to know her personal limits. What we see of Kronii is what we're going to get, and it's for our own good AND hers. fuck yesmen, though

>>11574679
not a fan of minecraft myself, but reading all the stuff at the top just got me remembering something. If you've heard of Funhaus, they used to do something like an office cam where it's just livestreaming them doing work but no interactions with chat whatsoever, and it usually runs after working hours too so you can see the uninhabited office at night followed by the usual cleaners coming in the wee hours.

From what I recall, void minecraft was just a fun thing as the result of a rigged poll. That stream was made so people would want to watch Fubuki suffer while throwing money at her. I think there are some people out there, including here, that want something like what Funhaus did, but basically with Kronii POV and Minecraft. They can just drop by and watch her what she's doing. She doesn't need to look at chat. SC's disabled. Though one thing I'd prefer that also usually happens after Funhaus' livestream cap is that the stream gets unarchived.

The issues I can see from this though is that it can be a chore to do, and that it gives the expectation that Kronii would always do an "offstream" stream of minecraft when even as recently as today's HK stream, she admitted that she was playing other games offstream too so there might not be as many of that kind of MC stream as expected. The other issue is probably moreso on Cover's side in regards to privacy(?) about doing an office-cam type minecraft livestreaming, though that's something that I'm not too well-versed in unless someone could help me elaborate on this matter, or elaborate otherwise on why this would be a non-issue.

But yeah, that's all I wanted to say. Can't say that this is a good suggestion. Not sure if people already had suggested something like this explicitly though I'm most likely wrong since I haven't done enough VOD reps recently.

>>11575430
>People are too quick to label even normal discussion as schizoposting or timeloops or a dumpster fire, that's how much of a hugbox this place has become.
the problem is that a lot of posters here arent actually interested in discussing anything because they refuse to actually reply to the other side

>>11575520
God I forgot about her having 3 jobs at the same time.
Crazy times.

>>11575502
i never took any of this into consideration. much to think about unironically. but i don't think it's the 'rrape the rrat' posters or the the 'i want futa fauna to breed me with her horse cock' posters at fault,

>>11575536
Kronii doesn't seem to play Minecraft as much anyway. She sometimes logs in but it's not every day and for huge amounts of time like she used to. I think management might've chewed her out for staying up all night playing it since she talked about how they were already expressing concerns over her health in the Hades stream.

>>11575478
fanbase takes after the oshi
always remember this

>>11575393
I know this is probably a shitpost but I'm still going to respond seriously for the benefit of all the newfags that are here.

Not a single fucking Holo was perfect on debut. All of them, every single fucking one of them had issues. Technical issues, mental health issues, physical health issues, awkward starts, conflict of characters, something. They were all different from what they are now. And they will all be slightly different a year from now. That's the joy of Holos, you get to see them change and improve. You get to see them grow. Unless it's Ayame, but nobody wants that except the faggot yesmen. Suisei is probably the biggest example of this, her early singing on Nico Nico was awful. When she dropped Still Still Stellar, even Hoshiyomi were hopeful that she'd re record Comet and Tenkyuu because she'd progressed so much since she first sung them. Watching Holos strive ever higher is the joy of Hololive.

>>11575521
the cuck fanbases will take fucking anything lying down, anon

>>11575181
Shit will be worse when the schedule drops though...

>>11575430
>People are too quick to label even normal discussion as schizoposting or timeloops or a dumpster fire
Because these threads timeloop so many times that people are quick to pull the trigger even during peace times
The Kronie's only know war

>>11575587
god I wanna fuck that comet...

>>11575282
>Wanting to always be talking or doing something isn't wrong, that's the basics of streaming.
Doing something, yeah but idk about talking. Minutes-long silence is probably too much but they don't need to fill every second of dead air (something they all seem to suffer from).

>>11575502
>this thread should only be for people who have literally no live outside of Kronii
ogey

>>11575587
based yomibro

>>11575659
Look ma! He did it again! He oversimplified and flanderized without bothering to actually refute anything!

>>11575558
Most of them probably are harmless but its a fact that allowing them to take root here have also invited a lot of more casual "Kronies".

>>11575457
because clock prepares and rehearses a script of what she's going to say on every stream
she needs to know what's going to happen in the game ahead of time so she can fire off her pre-prepared one-liner and look cool
she can't stream for longer than 3 hours because she struggles to write scripts longer than that
minecraft music helps her creativity so she logs in and leaves it on in the background while she writes

>>11575689
>>11575698

>>11575532
>She only has so much streaming she can mentally, physically tolerate on a given day.
You'd think the introverts in this thread could realise this

>>11575502
I don't know man. The people who complain the most also seem to be the ones the most overly attached to Kronii. People from other fanbases or who have other oshis either don't really care or are just shitposting, which they would've done anyway. I think whether or not people scared off people from other splits we'd still have gotten the infighting because it's hard to say that people who write paragraphs about how they want Kronii to stream more don't care about her, even if you disagree (which I oftentimes do).

>>11575502
Have you ever considered that as just a fan you don't have enough credible information to make useful suggestions and attempting to do so does more harm than good?

>>11575457
>New game: Terraria

>>11575703
I can beleeb this rrat

>>11575742
I'm a terrariafag, I would unironically watch this IF and ONLY IF she was playing it for the first time.

>>11575703
Rrat

>>11575587
this is my biggest gripe with yesmen. the improving aspect is genuinely and fully the best part. but those faggots want to stifle her now while she's in the most moldable part of her hololive career when she's still looking for her footing. all this for a quick dopamine hit when she thanks then for letting her stagnate, before they move on to the new shiny next gen.
i'm surprised no one brought up gabe again, he admitted today that the endorphin rush is getting to him, and the fact that he seems to have a new oshi every gen

>>11575659
Unironically yes. Go back to /hlgg/ if you just want to check in whenever Kronii is streaming. Or just check in these threads, since its basically /hlgg/lite anyway, when Kronii is streaming, then fuck off.

>>11575730
Yeah but regular people also know that limits can be overcome with training and exposure. I did one of those couch to 5k things. I couldn't run for a minute without wheezing at first, but I kept going and now I can do 30 minutes at a time. I'm still going too. It's literally been a 30x improvement so far.

>>11575502
Kronii simply attracted the biggest audience from all of Council, which naturally lead to increased number of schizos within her fandom. If the shitposters were really here only to shitpost and didn't care about Kronii, then the timeloops wouldn't be nowhere near as consistent. Face it Anon, Kronies are simply of-the-meds schizos by their nature. Does tourism make shit worse? Definitely yes. But is the garbage spewed here, in vast majority of cases, friendly fire? I would bet a lot on the answer being also yes.

Literally don't understand why you are all like this. Fauna does 3 hour max streams, average is like 2 hours, and does 1 hour streams weekly and no one has complained to her. And by herself she decided to at least increase the amount of streams she had this week. I understand typing once in comments, or sc'ing about it once and judging her response. But at some point you're going to have to realize it's ultimately up to her and pushing and pushing is going to just make her want to do the opposite.

>>11575743
Is it wrong to ask Kronii for more streams? You people are acting like doing so is the worst thing.

>>11575730
I know, but you also have to consider that most of them have never spent so much time and craved so much time from another introvert before. It's easy to know your own shortcomings, but it takes a lot of effort to see it in others, because the natural thought process is to put the person you admire above yourself.

They're all (mostly) good people underneath it all, just like the oshi. More proof that fans reflect their girl, I guess

Mumei has 10/23 and Bae has 10/24 listed as a surprise. Will council finally drop the teased OG song in their debut? If they're doing it by order, Kronii's should be on 10/22

>>11575852
fauna is a fake bitch and saplings are all cucks and will tear down any holomem if it will help them defend fauna. we should do everything we can to make sure kronii is never like her and >we are never like saplings.

>>11575703
>she needs to know what's going to happen in the game ahead of time so she can fire off her pre-prepared one-liner and look cool

This explains why she's mostly played games she's already played before

>>11575866
It's the full EN among us collab probably

>>11575905
gg btw anon

>>11575512
Fauna had an amazing week wtf

>>11575804
Mumei's 2nd so even if not much she should still have similar complaints, especially since she and Kronii are basically competing for least streams on the Council anyway, yet why is Kronii's general the one who gets them while Mumei's barely has? Hint: its in something that this thread allows to thrive that isn't present in the others.

>>11575852
>I literally don't understand why people are discussing Kronii in the Kronii thread.

>>11575866
que? I want to think that it's probably merch announcement for the council girls. though a bit of wishful thinking wouldn't hurt this time at least.

>>11575925
Oh fuck, I forgot rrat's timezone is a day ahead

>>11575954
So you can't read?

I wanna fuck the clock

>>11575944
it was ok, Kronii was fine as well, but don't let them know

>>11575502

>>11575984
I want to marry the clock!

>>11575852
no no you don't understand, people with imposter syndrome respond positively to a constant barrage of criticism

>>11575925
>full EN
>among us only has 10 players
irys.........

>>11576028
Holy newfag, Among Us supports 15 players now.

>>11575997
I love this gif

>>11576028
Wasn't it 15 in the new update?

>>11575955
Mumei attracts people who want cute, Kronii attracts people who want SEX

>>11575502
>>11575804
Are you sure it isn't because of the specific kind of audience she attracts? Think about Mumei. She's cute, she's forgetful, she speaks like a Christian girl, you want to protect her and hold her hand, and it's funny when she gets a little spicy or smug sometimes because it's gap moe. Fauna is literally the incarnation of GFE, she even does ASMR streams, obviously the saplings would be the most loyal.
But Kronii? Well, Kronii is just an autistic, possibly depressed, possibly anxious girl who people relate to. I don't think it's a coincidence that the timeloops started worsening after that first karaoke stream. People are attached to her, hard, because they see a girl who's like them. She's not GFE, she's "the girl that I want to marry". And that's why it pisses people off when she doesn't stream, because she's completely dominated their minds.

>>11573828
>>11574033
>>11574381
>A bitter breeze blew through the desolate city streets, carrying autumnal leaves off the boughs of the trees. The dim yellow glow of the street lamps periodically illuminated the pavement before the both of you.
>As the branches above you rustle in the zephyr your glance over to Kronii who was walking besides you.
>Waddled in a thick coat and scarf, the wind whipped her sprigs of Navy hair back and forth. She was looking down as she walked, contemplating something.
>Neither of you had spoken much today, she seemed too pre-occupied with her thoughts to engage in small talk or banter but atleast you went on a night walk together.
>It was something you both did before meeting one another; the silence of the roads a stark contrast to the day, the noises of nature were a pleasent choir compared to the usual bustle of humans. The night sky loomed large above the roofs and the tree tops, a panoramic vista that took one away from the mundainity of the everyday world.
>Kronii takes your hand in hers as you both cross the road, your gloved fingers interweaving with one another in union.
>The entrance to the city park was open, this was one of your favourite walking areas at night and Kronii was delighted when you took her through your usual route, the tranquility of the gardens and tended grounds let her mind be at ease.
>An old bench, besides a small hillock, lit by a flickering old gas lamp was often the pit stop of your walks. You both took the time here to talk about more deep issues and problems here and when not divuldging those, it was the most seculded and peaceful spot in the park. A private alcove just for the two of you to sit and think.
>You lean back and strech your arms, gazing up at the twinkling dots on the dark canvas of the sky. Kronii rested next to you, not saying anything and just joining in the stargazing.
>"Is everything ok?" you wonder aloud, an arm of yours having rested around her shoulder and pulling her close to you.
>"Hmm" Kronii was usually rather open during the nightwalks so this was peculiar.
>"Kronii?"
>You break your gaze up and look across at her. She was still focusing up, a rather stoic expression on her face made it difficult to discern her feelings.
>"Sometimes I think if I made the right choices"
>She shifts a little to grt more comfortable by you
>"Did I do the right thing? What if things were different? Would I be in a better place?"
>You keep quiet, letting her continue.
>"Maybe I'm not cut out for it"
>She sighs and looks up at you, meeting your eyes.
>"Then I tell myself that I have you, maybe things aren't so bad"
>Kronii smiles weakly. You let her rest her head on your shoulder as you remark on how wonderful she is and how well she has done, she'll get better with time and experience but you only expect her to try her best.
>She mallows with your words, her stiffness from overthinking dissolves. You need not say more than was needed, today was a quiet night walk and you now endeavour to enjoy the moment in the park; the rustle of the trees, the cool blustery breeze, the sounds of the world around you both. Together.
t.fluffanon

>>11575932
i can't even be upset about that because nothing compares to the offense and anger i felt the first time i went to /uuu/ in the middle of a doxfag shitfest, and in the face of trouble every sapling was saying that every holo has a boyfriend and laughs behind chat's back, or gets fucked daily, or they are all fake personas with not a hint of genuineness. they could've ignored and reported or said roommate shit doesn't matter, but no. they can go to hell.

>>11575944
Fauna had probably the best week out of Council. but that's because half of Council was floor tanking...

>>11575955
Mumei's initial fanbase was geared up for her to be the top dog, honestly. There was a bigger amount of energy and a far greater filtering event when she debuted, and Mumei never threw anyone a bone. Her current fans are Mumei Lex Enjoyers coexisting with "I love this dumb owl and her cute screeches" types. It's pretty stable, and consistent.

Kronii wasn't expected to be gosling prime, it just happened. She loves her fans and is as susceptible to us as they are to her, so there's this feedback loop of her endlessly wanting to please all of these people who unconditionally love her, but each person has a different want. It's typical of a freshly blown up vtuber, she's in the acclimation process now.

>>11576094
You're such a fucking liar.

>>11576074
>I got mind broken by Kronii, LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>11576052
>>11576063
wait what? i dropped amogus a long time ago, my bad.

>>11576123
Kronii is really just the new Ame

>>11576128
You knowing I'm lying means you're a casual Kronii fag and need to get out

>>11576074
she has so much power over me, it's unreal...

>>11576123
>>11576074
These right here. /∞/ is "fanbase reflects their oshi" rule in full force. Probably gonna take a few months before things settle on something stable. Or spiral completely out of control...

>>11576074
I chuckled for a bit because I was reminded of a time where Gabe was refusing to 'let her in' solely for this reason, knowing that he would end up being the type of person he detested.
>And that's why it pisses people off when she doesn't stream, because she's completely dominated their minds

>>11576149
but I thought she was Mori? If we are just throwing comparations I hope she becomes the next Kiara

>>11576191
I would literally kill myself, if Kronii told me to do it

>>11576094
I can't knock people in good faith for being cynical about vtuber's true personas when this entire place was built on ancient rrat burial grounds. I understand that you're mad at their conduct more than their cynicism, but ultimately, the most you can say about Fauna's fans are that they're jaded. If that's worth hating, than what do we strive for?

>>11576225
If you were on /jp/ when myth arrived you'd realise Kronii's fanbase is just Ame's, goslings and all

>>11576171
you're not who he's replying to, fuck off.
>>11576128
i'm gonna do my archive reps just to show you

I guess this is the trade-off for being an active split.

>>11576202
>Or spiral completely out of control...
Please god, not another 4 day timeloop...

>>11576074
>she's completely dominated their minds.

>>11575804
Yesman here are pushing the label of schizos to anyone who isn't just going along with what Kronii is doing. The truth is that those people do like and also care of her, in a different way in that they want her to rise to the challenge and improve from her present self.

This is why the old method of "just ignore them/leave the threads until they are finished" don't work as the yesmen claim, because these schizos are Kronies and not just tourists coming in to shit on her. And while those yesmen continue to stay silent and ignore, the threads get dominated by "schizos" which invites other kinds of schizos who may just leave after a while but some might also end up sticking around cause they ended up liking Kronii, more and more schizos happen until you get to the point where most of Kronies are "schizos" as those yesmen claim.

>>11576279
>Don't really like Ame or the Teamates that much
>Like Kronii and the Kronie's
>I've become the very thing I hate

>>11576442
more like you've come to understand the madness which gripped them and turned them into what they are now

you're still better than the average teamate.

>>11576191
I might even go so far as to suck a dick for kronii

>>11576412
>The truth is that those people do like and also care of her, in a different way
Could say the same thing about stalkers

>>11572027
>>11575997
this gif is very quickly becoming one of the few things on this board that i always enjoy, right up there with scrolling through watamelon threads

>>11576396
where was this /hlgg/?

>>11576337
>another 4 day timeloop...
try "∞" timeloop instead, if things keep going as they are rn

What is the collective noun for Kronies/Kromies?

>>11576396
Of course It's from fucking global

>>11576502
Yep, I checked the archives

>>11576396
The dualism is an inherent part of the Kronie's nature. People gosling and call her their wife and promise they'll always be there for her when she does karaoke, but the very next day they'll be fighting among each other, sending seething akas, and refreshing the server log-ins. This is all because they hate Kronii for making them fall in love with her.

>>11576128

>>11576462
is it something to do with the Amepocalypse? t. newfag

Is it just me or is this getting worse?
Usually a Kronii stream can stave of timeloops for at least a day but now we are back after only a few hours.
I fear for the future of this general. Eventually the timeloops will not end even while she is streaming

>>11576471
I wonder how many long marriages there have been which started with the man or woman stalking the other, and they've just never revealed it

I can no longer respect Kronii. Not after watching the Sleepy Karaoke of Mumei a few days ago.
Mumei streamed completely burn out, nearly falling asleep mid-stream after a tough week.

Kronii can do much better with all the free time in her hands, she is fully aware of it. The block game is a main staple of Hololive and grants a significant boost in views and revenue. Her success can help the other members by collabing with them or indirect help them by getting revenue for the company.

Kronii's main impediment is her own unwillingness.
She is not a good emotional investment, you will see it if you get past the superficial meme voice and avatar.

>>11576526
>Rushia
How dare you. How fucking dare you. This motherfucker is lucky he's not in this thread.

>>11576396
>globalnigger is to blame
Like a fucking clockwork

>>11576462
>you're still better than the average teamate
I mean, that's not hard

>>11576526
>all the saplings were like that
>finds one comment

>>11576526
>>11576128
here we have one implying hololive is just as fake as any entertainment set up.
>>11576569
i immediately thought of you when i was looking for the post.

>>11576540
Creepiest thing I've read today, congratulations

>>11573565
I can agree that Kronii should stream more, but the problem is that most of the autists itt who write paragraphs about it are people who do shit like >>11576396

>>11576538
>Eventually the timeloops will not end even while she is streaming
Mein amigo, that happened in today's HK stream. The worst part is that we can't tell if the person sending the SC is from here or out there.

>>11576516
Who'd have thought all this time she was 100% in kayfabe, god damn Ouro Lex

>>11576546
Does this mean you will leave here as well or do we still have to put up with your bullshit?
Or does "no longer respect" mean still thirst and consume her content like a man in the desert for water but just bitch about it endlessly on here in between?

>>11576089
Thank you, fluff.

>>11576396
Is she doing this on purpose to get more supas?

>>11576412
This is the truth actually, people only complain about "schizo posting" because there are normalfags here that aren't that deeply into Kronii as much, probably because as someone also noted talking of other girls is allowed here. If the people here turn into mostly people who want more Kronii streams, its no longer really "schizo" shit as much as just fans who want to see more of their oshi.

Guys what’s a timeloop
t. actual retard kronie

>>11576396
>It was from global
why am I not surprised

>>11576526
This is literally the thread where the actual regulars were spamming uuuuu to the point where the thread name for changed to uuuu because the same 2 idiots, who promptly fucked off after, kept shitposting and reports weren't doing anything.

>>11576645
how new

>>11576608
You think that comment didn't convince her?

>>11576645
I have witnessed infinite newness...lurks for 7 Big Bangs

Do (You) still have hope that she will improve? With the kind of attitude and work ethic she’s showing right now? I just think she’s an extremely stubborn person that has a very different view on what streaming is, even Gura’s “talk” didn’t reach her. Talking to her is just like talking to a brick wall and that she will only hear what she wants to hear.

>>11576608
I disagree, they are simply a loud minority. Most people who want Kronii to improve are not schizo, despite what the yesmen would have you believe.

>>11576673
That's what I like about her

>>11576673
Of course I have hope. If Mori can improve so can Kronii.

>>11576673
Can't count how many times people said "THERE'S NO WAY SHE COULD EVER GET BETTER" and ended up being wrong.

>>11576645
>the timeloops have gotten so bad that brand new kronies are being created out of the aether
This is getting serious

>>11576645
You're initiating a timeloop. I applaud the effort

>>11576648
>"you are such a liar"
>show proof it happened
>"just one comment"
>show another
>"those weren't real saplings"

>>11576645
KEK

>>11576089
nice

>>11576711
The only time it's ever been right is Ayame.

>>11576673
Darkness will fade away, light will guide your way
Hope has descended and you are not alone.

>>11576673
She's not anywhere near as good as she was during her debut week. The Superhot stream is still her best one.

Do I hope she improves? Yes, but I don't have actual hope of it. Not because she doesn't care, but because she is absolutely incapable of understanding what needs improving in the first place.

To that end, akasupa did nothing wrong, but it's still cringe

>>11576711
They are never wrong if they just keep moving the goalposts anon.

>>11576673
>Do (You) still have hope that she will improve?
We are not even 2 months in, so I maintain believe in that the current state of things is not the future of Kronii and this split. I just hope that its naturally progressing improvement, and not one cause by a cataclismic yab.

>>11576653
oh you did not watch streams, noted

>>11576735
Stop, I already jacked off today

>>11576526
>my oshi is a bitch so yours must be as well
Thank you for the reminder of why I don't like those people.

>>11576396
fucking global man

>>11576608
This guy isn't even in this thread, he's a globalnigger. The only person in this thread that we're aware of that has been sending supas are Gabe and archivebud.

>>11576526
>>11576598
just don't get attached bros its all fake

>>11576721
You want me to grab 2 comments from yes men from this thread and go somewhere else saying kroniis are all yes men?

>>11576735
on the topic of Hope, do you guys think a 1-on-1 collab with IRyS would improve the state of this thread?

>>11576721
I'll only accept that if you accept all the people shitting on the other holos(remember the Mumei collab?) as kronies as well who have acted just as badly. Hell there's one in this very thread who was shitting on Fauna by calling her a whore for no real reason.

>>11576735
>Hope has descended and you are not alone
IRyS I swear i can't keep paying for these window repair bills...

>>11576819
Kronii is your homie, you don't marry your homies

>>11576733
Can't improve perfection, quality>quantity

>>11576837
I do yearn for a 1.5k post thread mostly relating to SEEEEEEEEEEEEXXXXXXXX if that happens.

>>11576837
Immeasurably, they have extremely good chemistry together

>>11576598
>>11576819
Oh sure, when it suits them best to say it, it's all entertainment, but when I turn that logic against them and say if it's all entertainment then I don't need to give a shit about the entertainers as people because they're ultimately just monkeys dancing to the tune of superchats, then I'm the bad guy.

>>11576837
I hope they play a game together offstream

>>11576837
>do guys think a 1-on-1 collab with IRyS would improve the state of this thread?
Only if it's with me.

>>11576900
Don't worry, if they do Kronii will definitely make sure to let us know.

>>11576834
go look at the thread yourself retard, thread was almost completely split between "fauna bad" and "everyone is fake", the uuuu posters were fucking drowned out. so unless saplings are the minority in her own fucking thread, yes those were real saplings.
>>11576843
i believe those are kronies too, though. but shitting on individual holos because of personal taste is very, very different from shitting on every hololive member who does gfe because your own oshi needs defending

>>11576845
where the fuck is my horny stalking Nephilim?

>>11576619
>Does this mean you will leave here as well or do we still have to put up with your bullshit?
Why are you so anal? I haven't posted since the previous previous super chat read from weeks ago.
>Or does "no longer respect" mean still thirst and consume her content like a man in the desert for water but just bitch about it endlessly on here in between?
I used to be a full watcher of Kronii, I watched her every stream until the off stream MC issue came out when the EN/JP tours began. I thought Kronii would do better since she mentioned she'd do something. But yet two weeks later and nothing happened. She remains the same.
Keeping up with these threads is no good for anyone, not the enjoyers or the complainers.

>>11576526
>>11576598
>>11576819
Rushia spends so much time doing this shit that even if it were all "fake" it doesn't matter anymore. Let's say Rushia is just "faking all of it". That means she spends the vast majority of her time dedicated to a lie. At that point, her "fake self" takes up more time than her "real self". And thus it becomes her real self. A fake can trying to be real is just as real as the real thing. In fact it can be even more real because it has more desire to be the real thing than the real thing does by just existing. Didn't these niggers watch Nisemonogatari?

Anyways Kronii should stream more too.

>>11576837
Completely. IRyS has great chemistry with Kronii
really, IRyS has great chemistry with everyone

>>11576900
Only if that game is SEX

>>11576894
no, those faggot saplings and you are all niggers for not thinking holos should be genuine.

>>11576927
>I used to be a full watcher of Kronii
I mean, not that difficult. Being a full watcher of Kronii takes about as much effort as passively listening to a TV, considering the dearth of streams.

>>11576920
It's a slow thread so you only need 2 retards to go off on each other to fill a lot of posts

>>11576920
>so unless saplings are the minority in her own fucking thread, yes those were real saplings.
NTA but you can see right now that Kroniis are the minority in their own fucking thread, drowned out by yesmen.

>>11576837
>two consecutive post limit threads
>30+ fics in the span of a day
>vampanon cumming himself to death
>then tourists start shit by saying irys carried the collab and plunge us back into timeloop city

>>11576941
with me, yes. I will be their sextoy.

I find it funny how the new narrative now is that if you want Kronii to grow naturally and at her own comfortable pace you are a yesman, as if such thought is a bad thing. I would rather be one of the yesmen than someone trying to get her to force growth which would be unnatural, uncomfortable, and unenjoyable for her and us. Kronii got to where she is because of who she is, not because of who others wanted her to be. Considering this, I believe that a laissez-faire approach is the best approach to the Kronii question.

>>11576956
Anonchama, your reading comprehension...

>>11576936
BARMAID IRYS SEEEEEEEEEEEEX

>>11576964
My favorite part is that he's using over a month old thread back when doxfagging and shitposting was at its highest for council and using it as proof but can't find anything recent lmao

>>11576970
if we wait for Kronii to grow at her own pace she wouldn't change a thing until her graduation date. some people need to be pushed out of the comfort zone to adapt

>>11576956
It isn't about if holos should be genuine, it's accepting the truth that most of them aren't to some extent. If you want a 100% genuine Holo, you get FBK. If you want them to actually be fun, you have to accept that there is an act involved.

>>11576994
i was proving that the events that i saw happened, not that they happened recently. i refuse to step digital foot into that disgusting general in the present time.

>>11576762
That tumtum ain't gonna get cum by itself.

>>11576970
The yesmen don't want her to grow at all and her pace right now is nonexistent. Often times, it takes other people to introduce you to new experiences. You might never go skydiving of your own accord but if a friend invites you might try it.

>>11577011
You need to stop projecting your oshi's inability to care onto others.

>>11577023
If you love someone you don't try to change them

>>11576837
Should be prertty good as long as /HiRyS/ niggers didn't come to this place as well.

>>11576861
>Aug - 4 streams total
1 cover, 1 karaoke, 1 poke moba, 1 mario kart collab
>Sept - 5 streams total
1 anniversary, 1 zatsudan, 1 ring fit, 1 shill stream collab, 1 karaoke

This is the quality every holo should strive for

>>11577028
>reee projecting projecting!
Cute, but you aren't actually saying anything.

>>11577019
>i refuse to step digital foot into that disgusting general in the present time.
please don't

>>11577011
i don't know who your oshi is, but you seem to have a poor opinion of her. don't project that on other holos, and seek to better your perception of your oshi if you can

>>11577038
>All change is bad
>If you love someone you let them wallow in self destructive stagnation
Spoken like a true failure.

>>11577051
>greentext you are silly
Right back at you.

>>11576970
Kronii got to where she is because she drew the winning hololive lottery ticket. Where she is now now is because she is lazy/depressed and hates streaming.

>>11577038
What happened to just entertainment? Doesn't work for the purposes of your argument anymore?

>>11577043
>literally describing quantity

>>11576936
IRyS has good chemistry with most everyone I've seen her collab with. If she was able to take charge a bit more and organize more collabs, she'd be collab queen.

>>11577021
>implying irys’ desperate womb doesn’t take control of her body when she sleeps and force her to hunt down and rape the nearest virile male without her even being aware of it

>>11577040
now not all of them are bad. they have their own schizos and londoners to handle as well.

>>11577062
I already made a perfectly serviceable statement that you couldn't handle, it isn't on me to treat you with respect if your last resort is to reee at me.

saplings getting uppity. fauna is alright just don't project your cuckoldry on other holos

>>11577040
What’s wrong with them? I find their threads are fine, especially compared to how dead some other generals are vs this one, and they at least acknowledge her sex potential unlike, for instance, saplings and their oshi (I like Fauna a lot but saplings seem to be fucking allergic to sexualising her)

>>11577078
I am genuinely confused by this retarded comment

>>11577085
>male
or female, Irys is bi

>>11576074
Or, you know, it's frustrating that council in general is sandbagging so hard compared to myth and Kronii is emblematic of it, despite having the highest streaming-hours of her gen, because she almost exclusively replays games she's played before, does long series of games she's already played while milking them for content, shows up unprepared to stream and without having tested basic things like audio levels or if her hardware works beforehand, spends inordinate amounts of time playing games she streams off-stream, until very recently had more total air time hours cameoing in other holos streams without streaming her perspective than actually streaming herself, and has repeatedly lied about various things including why she spends so much time lurking on other holos streams without streaming herself.

I'm getting frustrated with pretty much the entire gen, but at very least Mumei has an excuse and Fauna's content has been solid when she delivers it. Kronii is just baffling. Her voice and sense of humour are great and you want to like her for it but honestly she's been pretty decisively the worst streamer and entertainer in HoloEN so far far and shows absolutely no interest in improving on either of those fronts. This vitriol is the consequence of people realizing that last part; it's when folks stop ignoring her flaws out of good will or producing constructive criticism and start to accept the fact that she won't improve, won't process criticism and probably thinks she's getting enough out of hololive as it is without putting in the extra effort to be good at it.

>>11577109
>literally an incel thread
>what's wrong with them?
anon...

>>11577115
fair enough, not like a sleeping nephilim is able to tell the difference

>>11577079
I really wish IRyS would take charge over the 32%

>>11577119
>start to accept the fact that she won't improve, won't process criticism and probably thinks she's getting enough out of hololive as it is without putting in the extra effort to be good at it.
Is this bait? It's been two months. Jesus Christ. You faggots have barely even tried to push her into improving. The only people sending akasupas have been actual seething schizos from global and Gabe. If you want to see improvement then actually go and ask her to stream more yourself instead of doomposting on a Chinese basketweaving forum. This is just embarrassing.

>>11577132
You don't belong.

>>11577132
hi twitter

>>11577000
Very unlikely, but even if that were the case, so what? There are seven days in a week. This week we got four streams. The week before that we got five. The week prior to that we have also received five. Five or four streams a week seems to be the standard for Kronii. Unless you want six or seven streams every week, or multiple streams per every day she streams, what will make you satisfied? People are out here acting like she hardly does anything yet the record disagrees.

>>11577179
>if you don't send her 100 dollars supplicating her, you aren't helping
Okay.

>>11576970
>I'd rather be a yesman than trying to force growth
>>11577200
>ok so what if she doesn't grow

>>11577119
while i agree with what you're saying is the cause of this timeloop, i also agree with >>11577179 in how it's been a short amount of time. we (yes WE, not >we) need to gently push her in the right direction. don't send an aka though she clearly reads almost every supa. but go talk to her. or fuck, use ARS.

>>11577206
Then what exactly have you been doing? She reads comments and tweets. Have you been posting those? Have you been actually sending messages in her chat about it? Have you tried to engage with her in any capacity besides just whining here and hoping she's actually reading anything in this website. I'd like for her to stream more too but at least I have the balls to go tell her that myself.

>>11577185
>muh safespace

>>11577109
That place has been insufferable for me ever since that Polka MC ingame collab desu, Their attempt of gatekeeping IRyS just because I'm an EOP and they knew japanese really reminds me of those /vyt/ shithole days. That one nigger complaining about SEAniggers 24/7 because she paid attention to them at prechat and he's too poor to send akasupas so she would notice him didn't really help either.

>>11577153
I can't blame her. She loves them as much as she loves (you). Though at least she pays no attention to those that berates her unnecessarily.

>>11577263
>he says while crying about another general

>>11577236
Unironically yes. If she doesn't grow then she doesn't grow. If she does, great, I won't complain either way. I don't see what is so hard to understand about this.

>>11577263
I'm just letting you know in advance in the hopes you'll take the cock out of your mouth and stop complaining that a hobby that was never for people like you in the first place continues to be filled with people that aren't like you. Go pick up a sport or something.

>>11577038
That's madness. If you love someone you'd want them to be their best self. Of course you don't do that by being an aggressive gorilla monkey at them like that one globalnigger, but nobody who actually cares about how someone else's doing just lets them stagnate.

>>11577290
>answering a question
>crying
uh huh

>>11577270
Fair. Honestly, I haven’t visited their threads much except to shill my FutanarIRyS fics but from what I’d seen they seemed alright hence the “what’s wrong with them” question
t. also an EOP

Did kronii beat hades?

>>11577055
That is a very rare intensity of disingenuous advice you posted, anon. absolutely scrumptious

I think Kronii didn't expect to become the top dog. No one expected that. Early on, everyone expected Bae to become this gen's Gura, while Kronii would take Mori's comfy "second best" spot, at most. But things turned out very differently, and Kronii didn't just become the best - she's 100k subs above the second place (and that's Mumei).
A few months ago she was a complete nobody with a lot of issues, who had to work in a fucking call center (which is pretty much bottom of the barrel, for people who can't even work at McD), and no future to speak of, desperately trying to find a voice acting gig because that's the only thing she was somewhat good at. When you think about it, this is as pathetic as Ame and Mori put together. I wouldn't be surprised if this girl actually did drugs of some sort, just to escape the garbage fire that is her life.
So she gets Yagoo's golden ticket, having no clue how to actually be entertaining, but that's her last chance at doing something with her life. In her debut, she did fucking meme soundbites, because what else is there to do? She sucks at gaming, singing, drawing, she only knows that her voice is nice, and her model was drawn by one of the best artists in Japan right now. So she plays that up as well. "Hey guys, look at how good my model is, ain't it pretty? That's the only other asset I have that's worth a damn, so enjoy the ribbon bouncing."
She's not used to streaming because she sees gaming and streaming as two separate things. She doesn't want to stream new games because without prep time, she's afraid that people would think "damn, she's fucking boring" and unsub. Minecraft is a great example of that. Every other girl simply does whatever they want, but Kronii always puts on an entire circus arc, like when she built an entire bunker before her first stream, and made some of the best Minecraft moments in EN history with IRyS and Fauna. It's overcompensation at its finest, all because she thinks that she's boring.
None of this shit is healthy, and I hope other girls help her find her footing. Because if this continues, she will completely mentally and physically exhaust herself very soon.