/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>11573365
ccv + sc
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://overseas.live-ranking.com/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/total-ranking/youtube
>https://www.dousetu.com/daily_ranking/
>http://v-ana.com/
>https://playboard.co/en/

Hololive
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://twitter.com/holo_data
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://mipacd.github.io/chat-stats/excl-chat.html
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html

Nijisanji
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings

Should've kept the sesame street count theme going

>>11573234
Only Kuzuha and Kanae have a higher CCV right now

>>11573482
Nah, manga panels is better. There were still some retards last thread.

>TOP WINNERS OF THE DAY - OCTOBER 2021

1) Korone (Hololive) - 71k - Birthday 3D
2) Ayame (Hololive) - 86k - 3D Concert
3) Hal (Indie) - 57k - CR lottery
4) Noel (Hololive) - 101k - Outfit Reveal
5) Fubuki (Hololive) - 72k - Birthday 3D
6) Pekora (Hololive) - 45k - Minecraft (ENxSubaru)
7) Subaru (Hololive) - 93k - 3rd Anniversary
8) Pekora (Hololive) - 26.2k - Mario Kart 8DX
9) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 53.4k - CR Cup Tournament
10) Luna (Hololive) - 57k - Birthday 3D
11) Pekora (Hololive) - 52k - TotsuClubhouse51
12) Subaru (Hololive) - 38k - Card Unboxing with Luna
13) Kanae (Nijisanji) - 54k - Outfit Reveal
14) Pekora (Hololive) - 36k - Minecraft
15) Naraka (Nijisanji) - 53k - 3D Debut
16) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 33k - Blazing Sails Niji Tournament
17) Pekora (Hololive) - 39.4k - Judge Eyes

>FUTURE EVENTS
19) Suisei - Outfit Reveal
21) Marine - Return Stream

>>11573555
>Only Kuzuha and Kanae have a higher CCV right now
NOT SO FAST, PEONS
>BLOCKS YOUR KING
NOTHING PERSONEL, KIDDO!

>>11573619
Stop kicking King's corpse.

When will Pekora have a new outfit? Because I want to see Coco's graduation stream numbers again.

>>11573696
Pekors new outfit won't touch the numbers from Kaichou's graduation stream anon. The 3D debut from shark might, but I honestly don't think it will

>>11573555
Temaki

Mori's stream is doing pretty well for a re-run

I Wonder why no Holo EN is trying to re broadcast their karaoke's like Mori does in the last weeks, she's getting half of numbers she achieved in the original stream

>>11573869
Kiara did.

>>11573869
well mori does it for karaokes shes done in jst bight to rebroadcast at morning to the other half of her audience. Do other ens have this pattern of streaming at morning? Maybe irys.

>>11573606
yo can someone redpill me on who Hal is? never heard of them before.

>>11573869
Anon... Kiara did it first...

>>11573759
Then what will? Pekomom debut?

>Suisei's songs keep getting lots of views and her newer ones reach 1M pretty quickly
>Pekora's Jump King arc got 3 1M view streams in a row
>Marine is getting a ton of views from her shorts
>Lamy's ASMR streams are pretty popular and steadly gain views
>Gura remains uncontested in terms of stream VODs

>>11573991
Another graduation

>>11573991
Pekora graduation

>>11573964
an apexautist

>>11573991
have you seen how insane coco's graduation numbers are? literally ruined numberfagging since theres almost nothing that can even compare

>>11573964
The best apex vtuber player. Reached pred every season. Puts on the vtuber apex tournament twice a year. Non apex streams don't do great numbers but he is still the most viewed indie vtuber. First quarter 2021 he was only behind Pekora and Kuzuha in view hours.

>>11574048
Just ignore him anon he doesn't know what he's talking about

>>11573964
Former upd8 chuuba, recently turned indie due to upd8 dissolving
Apex autist, probably best Apex Chuuba rn
Gains plenty of CCV when playing Apex, organizes Apex tournaments for Vtubers

Why does Hololive keep on taking the top place? Some of their more popular members aren't even streaming. Nijisanju could have had the chance.

Why does Ito Life have 10k viewers with Pokemon? It's not even Nuzlocke or anything like that because japanese autism would not allow it

>>11574544
>Purpose: Meet 6 thumbnails drawn by imagination. Clear the game with those 6 animals.
some kind of challenge, like nuzlocke

>>11574496
Niji is very top heavy. Cover could have multiple top talents take vacation or leave be far less affected. The middle of their lineup could bat cleanup for most teams. Even their “weaker” talents have their niche and can put up 10k streams on occasion without resorting to special events (costume, 3D). Remember Marine’s on break.

>>11573619
>His vampire game play numbers are so shit he decides to switch to APEX
Kek he really is nothing without FPS

>>11574544
Because he's entertaining. There's also a chance to see him draw more Pokémon.

>>11574048
I know and I want to see it again live.

>>11574821
>>11574496
He drew 6 pokemon by just listening to their names without knowing what they look like, and now he's playing the game to see how close he was

>>11575205
Me too
I'm waiting for Kuzuha's tremendous graduation

>>11575205
I doubt it ever happens again. That was arguably the first true Hololive Graduation (every graduation prior either happened abruptly or was from holostars). Add to the fact that it was involving one of their most respected members, was given a 1 month lead up, and one could say was the climax of the chink arc. I doubt even Sora's graduation would top it.

>>11575357
He already caught the 6th one in his last stream. Now it's just a normal stream.

vshojo current number

>>11575655
Vshojo MC is sorta boring when there's only 6 people and no interconnected branches like Holo and Niji.

Poor Moona to set up a Collab with the Russian vtuber at this time

And fuck you whoever jinxed last thread. It's 2-1 now for the finals.

>>11575808
>no interconnected branches
...yet
The auditions were open to anyone, didn't have to be female or even speak English

>>11575655
>Depression
>Anxiety
Wtf twitch

>>11575655
There's already people from outside vshojo in the game

>>11575655
Doesn't seem to be a buff or debuff for her
Btw, she got 400k views in her self made ankha dance

>>11575808
it's not just vshojo on the server, they also invited a bunch of friends (including 3D males)

>>11575655
Did she lost 4k subs?

>>11575940
>400k views

>>11575940
>Doesn't seem to be a buff
Up to 8.9k, it's a buff on her usual numbers although not much competition at this time on a Sunday

>>11575940
How many for the Twitter version
Also I'm surprised this managed to stay up this long on Youtube

>>11576117
Yeah, was subtember (20% off subs) last month so numbers were well over the usual

>>11574928
>He's collab with Kanae now
Kek He really is desperate to reach 20k

RIP becomes the first Hololive ( maybe even vtuber) song reaching 10M on Spotify.

>>11574928
Anon...that vampire game is a FPS game...

* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN *

Here it goes
>39,351: Pekora (Hololive)
>29,811: Botan (Hololive)
>18,827: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>18,643: Mito (Nijisanji)
>18,435: Nene (Hololive)
>18,025: Tamaki (NoriPro)
>16,515: Gura (Hololive)
>16,346: Haachama (Hololive)
>16,255: Aqua (Hololive)
>15,432: kson (Indie)
>15,027: Kanae (Nijisanji)
>14,470: Kiara (Hololive)
>13,490: Kanata (Hololive)
>13,364: Korone (Hololive)
>13,168: Ito Life (Indie)
>12,454: Mio (Hololive)
>11,921: Nui Sociere
>11,392: Calli (Hololive)
>11,249: Fubuki (Hololive)
>11,153: Suo Sango (Nijisanji)
>11,081: Lize Helesta (Nijisanji)
>10,955: Subaru (Hololive)
>10,824: Flare (Hololive)
>10,361: Uruha (VSPO)

>>11573066
You're right, I spoke too soon hahaha

>>11577127
>11,153: Suo Sango (Nijisanji)
Huh? Is she inclining?

>>11577314
I didn't even try to figure that one out anon. Any NijiBloke can explain that?

>>11575885
>VShojo
>shojo
>don't have to be female
Do they have to be trannies or pretend to be female, at least?

>>11577354
>he doesn't know

>>11577314
>>11577349
From the picture, you can see that she's leeching of manjisanji.

>>11577354
If you try to go to vshonen.com it seems they have a plan for that

>>11577314
Just a lucky day

>>11577624
he's already in

>>11577624
>western company with trannies
>2 genders
Vshonen sounds like a yab waiting to happen if they become big enough for jealous twitterfags

>>11577787
He didn't apply
If they do it I guess Connor would be in and also Takahata and Lord Aethelstan, not sure who else

>>11577817
twitterfags can screech all the want, once you're the size of vshojo or even NijiEN jealous twitterfags screeching on twitter loses their ability to achieve anything meaningful.
I mean heck, Kyutto has been the victim of a persistent twitter cancellation campaign for almost a year now and she's still pulling respectable numbers. Unless you're the kind of person who lets retards tweeting get to you they can't really do shit

>>11577787
>>11578033
That's just dumb. Not established eceleb would benefit from join a minor company as opposed to just merely debuting and going their own way

>>11577817
man /pol/ really makes you lose your grip on reality

>>11577314
Meme stream. She was watching Gwelu and Kohaku watching her clips. These types of Gwelu's streams usually do well in terms of viewers.

>>11576766
>End of a life - 1M views
Mori and Gura are making even Suisei's numbers look bad

>>11578136
What would they have to give up? With the sort of deal vshojo offers there's only gains to be made on both sides.

>>11578302
>views

>>11577787
He's a yab machine

>>11578331
>With the sort of deal vshojo offers there's only gains to be made on both sides.
Yeah, you'll have to enumerate what this "deal" entails because, AFAIK, there is nothing to be gained.

Use CDawgVA as an example. What is in for him to join VShojo that he couldn't get on his own?
Hololive: a hundred thousand strong captive audience turning into a dozen thousand CCV from the start if he can keep it
Nijisanj: the eyes and ears of hundreds of thousand of japanese willing to part with tens of thousand of yens every "special occasions", plus sponsorship and merch if you can hold your weight

What is in for a CDawgVA to join VShojo?

Here is food for thought, anons, so you can figure out what 100k VOD views mean

Remember that "pepeloni" stream of Haachama?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOi2JvZhAhM (starts 4 minutes in)

It never broke 150k VOD views. Something with this much cultural persistence and the VOD is sitting on 146k views.
200k views is an ENORMOUS number for a 3 hours long stream. 1M? MAGNIFICENT!

why are people talking abour retarded e-celebs? hell worse yet ironic weeb e-celebs...
is it cause of that bait thread in the catalog?

>>11578651
Vtubers are weeb e-celebs

>>11578715
how can a japanese person be a weeb?

>>11573619
>>11574928
>>11576688
>>11577090
>Vampire+FPS
Literally a game made for kuzuha
Seriously, what happened to king's recent numbers?

>>11578651
>ironic weeb e-celebs...
I don't think people move to Japan for years just to be ironic

>>11578777
>how can a japanese person be a weeb?
WELL...?

>>11578485
thats because the clip has 400k views

>>11578414
For someone that size, or Nutaku ect? Nothing really. Vshoujo is good for networking but any streamer that big can just speed dial whatever twitch vtuber they want if they want to collab with them. if any males would join it would be a smaller profile one. If anyone big joined it would just be for the hell of it, sort of like Hime, not because it was really beneficial to them in any way.

>>11578777
Anon, not all of them are japanese

>Good fucking numbers
TS actually won, dragged the series to a full 5 games

>>11578912
hime hajime was likely expecting way higher numbers than what she got

>>11578991
How many days have it been?

>>11579033
58 days

>>11578978
hime debuted to 17k viewers, she lost most of them by herself through sheer technical scuffedness and by streaming only once in a blue moon

>>11579056
*48 days

>>11578954
Fuck yeah, great to be a non-chinese.

>>11579087
> 48 days
That's 75k views per day, 3k views per hour. Indie tier.

WHO WOULD WIN THIS FIGHT TO THE DEATH?!?!

>the prestige of NijiEN, the most celebrated APEX female player, the predator of predators, the purple Laughter, the pride of Nijisanji English, the she-Kuzuha?
>one cheeky clippy girl (boy) trying to make ends meet?

THE ANSWER WILL MAKE YOU ANGRY, CONFUSED, MANIAC AND WIPE YOUR SMILE OFF YOUR FACE (and unbraid Pekora's hair)

>>11578414
>>11578912
He doesn't have to pay them anything from his earnings. They make merch which both sides get a cut of and he can still sell his own, they offer technical and legal support and can also help with sponsors and promoting him in general.
I don't see anything he would actually lose from joining. It's a mutually beneficial relationship.

>>11578954
I am really happy that they won. I hope this is the beginning of the end for China. I still can't forgive what they did to Coco and hololive as a whole.

>>11578841
Stop talking about that tourney leech
He's irrelevant now

>>11579307
>I don't see anything he would actually lose from joining
He's a GeeXPlus employee (subsidiary of Bookwalker, subsidiary of Kadokawa). Whatever Vshojo is offering is a downgrade from what he already gets

Veibae (minecraft) at 10.2k
Zentreya (land of pain) at 3.3k

>>11578954
Funny how I transitioned from numberfagging dota vs lol to Hololive vs Nijisanji. Truly amazing. This time, I'm happy China gets cucked from top 1 again.

>Kiara is getting more viewers with superchat reading than with 'tales of' games

>>11578991
What if it stop streaming, will it only remain the latest 12 hr VOD view?

>>11580214
>Funny how I transitioned
NYAAAAA!

>>11581007
Nope. If your stream exceeds 18? Hours in length none of it will remain as a VOD. If you go over 12 hours but under 18, only the first 12 get a VOD and the rest is lost.

>>11578991
It stopped streaming before and started a new one.

>kiara announced a full HoloEN Among Us Collab

>>11581559
Oh, that's what's on the 23rd for Mumei?
Oh boy it's time for SALT.

>>11581559
They should invite Risu just so she can trigger Gura again!

>THE KING IS DEAD

>>11581559
Speaking to Among us, HoloEN X Gen 5 has the highest single and total pov ? (before YT got Susaned )

>You now remember that anon boasting about Kuzuha never getting under 20k
HAHAHAHAHA, WHERE IS YOUR GOD NOW!

>>11582637
what metric do you mean? views? ccv?

>>11582217
Risu's dead, anon...

>>11582669
He had numerous sub 20k streams though?

>>11581559
How many players does the game support?

>>11582669
Welp, King is dead. Even Ib is back to normal numbers. So it turns out that the only Nijisanji male that can actually keep up with Holos is Male Ayame. No wonder they still get BTFO even when Hololive is resting their starters (No marine, Pekora moving her main stream to the next day, Ayame being ayame)

>>11583101
didnt male ayame get only like 10k on that pirate tourney

>>11583091
The latest version supports up to 15 IIRC

>>11583091
15

HoloEN Among us huh? Their ccv will be like this:
Gura > Kronii > Mumei > Ina > Ame > Mori > IRyS > Kiara > Fauna > Bae > Sana
*since Kiara organized it then she'll get a little buff
*Mumei might actually get 2nd since she's known for her yandere like in DBD

Didn't Pekora's sponsored Makaimura launch stream also top that day? Woman is a marketting powerhouse. That stream probably tipped capcom into signing a deal with hololive

>>11588131
It’s a good thing that Pekora is actively trying to get sponsorships which means it benefits Hololive as a whole, Aqua is the same way.

The Duolingo stream was the latest one to hit 1m right? And that was 2-3 months ago? Gura seems to be slowing down a lot now

>>11589363
She got a lot of other streams to 1M since that one. >>11574004

>>11589363
>The Duolingo stream was the latest one to hit 1m right?
This one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGDy7j2rQPA

>Gura seems to be slowing down a lot now
Seems stable imo. Gura's streams usually takes a long time to get 1M views so she will always appears like she's declining if you only look at recent streams

Korekore and Hikakin's company are beefing and his company stocks are crashing, I guess becoming a vtuber wasn't enough to help him.

>>11589363
The last one hits 1M before this minecraft is L4D2 collab. Many of her old streams strangely have longevity growth even though it's slow.

>>11589736
I said latest one anon-chama (bar song releases of course). 22 out of the 33 non short form videos that reached 1m were from during her peak in 2020 (from debut to Dec before Susan decided to cull views). Admit it, Gura has been reclining and she doesn't have the same pull she once had.

>>11589991
>>11589363
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YvU0sJCmFlE
>2 weeks ago
inb4 it doesnt count

>>11590097
Yes anon-chama, that's where I got the image from. But consider that it her 2-3 months between this and the last time she got 1 mil VOD in a stream. She used to pump out 1 mil vods regularly, but now with 3.5 mil subs, she no longer can? The numbers dont add up and she's being a disappointment to the numberfag in me. Shorky has reclined

>>11589991
>22 out of the 33 non short form videos that reached 1m were from during her peak in 2020

I'm just cleaning your mess...

Gura has 36 uploads with +1M views
33 Streams
3 songs

2020
>19 streams

2021
>14 streams
>3 songs

lol it is the
>ADMIT IT
schizo, let them talk to the wall

>>11590928
2 songs right? King and Reflect

>>11578166
>twitter
>/pol/
???

>>11591044
There's 2 versions of Reflect

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_go_2zgeWbU

>>11591246
Ok, the one on "Topic" channel, which I guess we normally wouldn't count.

>>11591368
It needs to be included otherwise we get some inconsistencies. Take this example...

Total of views
Gura ->189.9M
Mori -> 189.7M

Uploads over 1M views

>>11573606 (Excluding topic channels)
Gura -> 35
Mori -> 17

Including topic channels
Gura -> 36
Mori -> 26

The last numbers are more consistent for 2 channels with almost the same amount of views

>>11591799

** >>11574004 (excluding topic channels)

>>11591799
Or you know, Calli is just the better and more entertaining Vtuber? Have you Chumpedos ever thought of that?

>>11591799
Mori's channel is labeled as "Artist Channel", that's why her total views also includes her topic channel, but not for Gura, Gura's topic channel views doesn't merge into her main channel.
*and even one of Mori's song in her topic channel isn't Mori's.

Which means you can exclude Mori's Topic channel's music in the "+1M" because we are only put main channel's VOD achievement in discussion for most of the time.

Why Pekora got 39.4k for judgment?
Isnt it a normal game for here with average around 20-25?

>>11592483
Because it got the "game is finally ending" buff.

>>11592483
is a yakuza spinoff and the ending that is a huge buff

On other midget news Rosemi with 2k views but also becasue she started the devour collab with lazulight earlier. wonder if she can keep them or will lose them

>>11594133
NijiEN engagement is up. I don't think the pool of interested parties for NijiEN has increased but I feel the fans they already have are watching more of NijiEN.

>>11594464
>>11594133
Elira isnt streaming her viewpoint so she will keep them.
it also help that HoloEn hasnt streamed a lot at this hours this week.

>>11594464
Vod views seems lower than usual except for elria and selene so less epople are checking or bothering with them if not live. i actually think the viewerbase is just spreading too thin across all the girls.

>>11594675
Yes, their well hasn't gotten deeper and they have more mouths to feed. I'm just saying the dedicated fanbase is more engaged and there are less tourists. The problem with that is tourists get a lot of numbers and look attractive. You can only get so much water from a well after all.

>>11594855
Is it possible that the new wave were at least able to reenergize the current fanbase to be more engaged, even if only for the short term? Also, is there a consensus here on whether Ethyria is still under a debut buff or if this current numbers are their stable ones? Cause if their numbers are still under a debut buff then I can't even imagine what their CCV will be once it's gone.

>>11595272
ccv looks almsot the same. But it was a low number to begin with.
vod views keep decresing tough

>>11595337
Honestly it feels like they used up all their debut buff on debut 2.0 + donation readings + Q&A + superchat opening and one gameplay stream.

>>11595394
For their sake I hope that they actually did use up their buff because I'm sure they won't be happy seeing their viewership tank even more than this. It also brings up the question as to who was dumb enough to greenlight their first streams. I know intro 2.0 was a necessity because of how short Niji debuts are, but doing a donation reading stream immediately after debuts is just mind boggling. all 4 of them are suppose to be indie veterans, they should know better so either they got complacent or I have to assume someone from middle management did a fuck up.

2-3 weeks ago there was more HoloEN content than anyone could even watch, now everyone is having personal emergencies and dropping streams left and right, or just not scheduling them in the first place. Leaving the door open for the Niji crew to sneak back through, at least temporarily.

11 holoEN members, not a single stream for hours tonight...

>>11595608
Hooking paypigs is more important for them than retaining an extra few hundred viewers.

>>11595655
I hope you don't truly believe that doing donation reading streams and mentioning them on your debut is a way to gain paypigs.

>>11573606
Any Niji Big Events today?? Since if there's none then Pekora will easily take #1 again.
Also, i don't think Marine will make a big deal of her return but 30k+ is attainable

>>11595621
Imagine thinking gens should take an entire year to be released

>>11573696
Come on dude, that's being delusional. Even Gura only got 194k and Niji Major Baseball got 200k.
Coco's 490k is simply out of reach

>>11595621
Yea, Sunday is usually sparse, but today even moreso. Really, do they have data that indicates Sunday night is just absolutely horrid for SC/Viewership numbers or what? I get that people need days off to take with family and whatnot, but it's been the day that most often has the least amount of stuff scheduled for it.

>>11575808
>only 6 people and no interconnected branches like Holo
1st year of pre gate holoEN server

>>11595742
I remember a graph anon posted average CCV per day for HoloEN and Monday is the highest with Sat-Sun being the lowest

>>11577127
>29,811: Botan (Hololive)
Botan didnt hit 30k..

>>11595882
It's actually impressive imo, since i only predicted she'll get 20-24k

>>11595709
Well, it wouldn't have been an entire year had Coco's graduation not basically pushed everything back by about a month. Plus, you gotta understand just how HORRIDLY understaffed HoloEN was, and this is off of the info we know
-Kiara, Gura and Ame SHARED ONE MANAGER AMONG THE THREE OF THEM.
-Expectations were that EN would be an ID+ tier at most
-Mass hirings have occurred by Cover over the past year to fill in the lack of manpower
The fact is, while yes things would've been smoother had Council been recruited and debuted sooner, there probably just wasn't a good window for such a thing between bringing on more staff, training, and auditions. Like imagine the amount of crap they had to sift through for EN2 auditions, I have no doubt they had an absolute sea of garbage tier indies and political timebombs, on top of trying to find people that were more than 'just' popular indie chubbas.

>>11595963
just imaging Botan's numbers during CR cup..Kuzuhafags will seethe so fucking hard

>>11595655
Nijisanji's revenue relies little on SCs. Merch and sponsorships. Viewers are needed for the latter.

>>11595621
Go watch Snuffy, broaden your horizons
Seeing as this is numbers -6.9k watching
Capcom sponsored Monster Hunter PC demo stream

>>11595608
NijiEN's debut method was always retarded. I still don't get why they did that retarded idea 3 times.

>>11596041
I don't think she can defeat Kuzuha's tourney numbers but knowing nijifags, they'll still seethe if Botan even gets close

>>11596041
botan is wiser top get near that game.

When you rely too much on apexfags

>>11596083
>Snuffy
>sponsored by Capcom
Holy shit

>>11596189
but she could be bastion of normalfags-Apex autists of hololive during tourny. for FPS autists she already is

>>11596028
I wonder if Gen 3 will be recruited from the gen 2 applications. I know that is stupid but if they got a few good candidates it might be worth it, overhead wise. Also maybe they should shift to the JP system and always accept applications, unless they'd be flooded with trillions of them.

>>11596083
>broaden your horizon
>sees monster hunter
Anon...

>>11595655
NijiEN NEEDS sponsors.
Right now what's the benefit of hiring NijiEN over HoloEN?
Cost is really the only thing I could point unless you're a chink gacha game. In that case they're your only option.

>>11596238
>wiser
true, be Apex only streamer (especially when you are burnout) is soul draining exp. she was a smart hag to became variety streamer

>>11595882
There's not a lot of people watching BF in the first place, she singlehandedly doubled the total viewership from the last cup.

>>11596404
Niji will make up for it with merch

>>11596387
I was suggesting it as an opportunity for you to see how you really feel about big titted raccoons

>>11596476
So, uhh phone wallpapers and voice packs?

>>11596476
Have NijiEN released any merch aside from voice packs?

>>11596476
What merch?
The new JP branch got merch right out of the gate and are being steadily supported.
EN got a voice pack and Lazulight got a sponsorship for the less popular of the omyouji gacha games (which is mostly popular in China).
Hell, even Council got debut merch which Sana got commissioned to make from Cover.

>>11596404
Cheaper
Better talents
Not lazy whores

>>11596476
Nigga elira has no merch beside some voicepacks and her birthday just came and went

>>11596330
>>11596083
how does ads work on twitch? i see no capcom anoucnement and other 3 randoms on twitch also have the #ad for the demos. Are they assigned by twitch like they did with nyanners with cookie run?

>>11596597
Unfortunately for NijiEN sponsors don't care about the second and third points

>>11596597
>Cheaper
If you're using money for adverting anyway might as well get the better quality
>Better
Subjective. Also they don't care.
>Not lazy
Don't care. Ayame could still be swimming in sponsorship money even if she streams twice a month

>>11596634
>Are they assigned by twitch
No, that's pretty rare

>>11590541
anonchama your meds pls

>>11596695 (me)
>quality
As in bigger reach, and Holos weighs more in this aspect.
>Ayame
Suppose you would consider Gura as a "lazy whore", but she still has way more and way bigger sponsorships. So case in point

>>11590541
It's been like that after the December update. Youtube not only culled subs and CCV, but also vod views. You can check the archive about the usaken collab for prove of this culling.

>>11596404
Selen could market esports crap, that's not something Holo EN can really do. I can imagine someone sending her an expensive controller or mouse to "review"(paid) to her audience.

>>11596807
I mean you are better paying actual pros to do that

>>11596476
>muh merch

>>11596780
It's a common point to shit on holofags for but, buying into whatever Holos shill as a fandom is HUGE to sponsors.
Look at how shit some of the top Holos shill sell out almost instantly.

Holo en tonight doko?

>>11596787
>muh Youtube bug
Just accept that Gura is irrelevant in 2021 instead of blaming the Youtube boogeyman.
She's been a lazy whore ever since she got the distinction of being the 3rd Vtuber to get 2 mil subs, ghosting her fanbase and cancelling her streams. If she does stream, she does so while piss drunk

>>11597138
The numbers are available, and Pekora was affected, too, but you are arguing in a bad faith.

Nearing 10m, catshark is unstoppable, how do we cope from this

>11597138
If Gura is irrelevant, then what makes Holo Myth? Council? Should Niji EN all graduate and kill themselves?

>>11597335
Should we call

>>11597138
If Gura is irrelevant then 95% of the holo/niji/vshojo vtubers are even more irrelevant then huh?
Only Pekora, Kuzuha, Marine, Mori, Suisei aren't

>mori watchalong stream starts
>all nijis lose 200-400 views
uh?

>>11597292
>Pekora was affected
>stills mogs the fuck out of Memeshark
Rumao, next you'll tell me it's because of Adblock and Gura's address being set to Japan

>>11597348
>>11597401
You know you can just shit on him for spilling a bunch of bullshit, right?

>>11597476
It hurts him more if you point out that he hurt his own favored chubba in that desperate attempt to degrade Gura.
>>11597438
Sounds normal enough. But all Nijis?

>>11596634
>Nigga elira has no merch beside some voicepacks and her birthday just came and went
Makes me wonder how invested they are in the EN branch. I mean they did change the company name the same day NijiEN debuted. It was rom a japanese name to an english name too.

>>11597138
>>11597452
Rigger, do you see anything in the op indicating this is a place to peddle your lies and agenda?

>>11597542
I wouldn't be scared for NijiEN. Obsydia instantly sold out their voicepacks on release day.

I'd be more scared for HoloEN. They can't even sell out any of their merch rumao

>>11596514
>>11596532
>>11596590
>Voice pack
This shit is one of the few things that we know for sure how much goes to the creator
Only 3.6%... People are spending $9 to give them $0.33

>>11597630
And where's the proof.

>>11597527
NijiEn i meant
rosemi had 2.3k, Fina 2.2k and pomu had 2k
Fina has 2.0k now, rosemi 1.9k and pomu 1.7k

They preferring a watchalong to a collab stream seems weird but also its been one hour since they started playing.

>>11597630
First off HoloEN merch sold out so fast they had to call for a second production run.
Secondly How do you "sell out" a digital voice pack?

>>11597634
no way is that low.

>>11597745
custom digital packs
no one bothers with the regular ones. they cost like 4 times that and are limited. You give them a short dialogue and they record it if i recall.

>>11597542
Changing the company name won't help if they won't change the name of the extremely Japenese brand.

Like, what the heck is a Nijisanji anyways to foreigners? I'd say one of the smarter moves of Hololive was the brand name that's easily understandable to English speakers.

Hell, Vshojo is a better name than Nijisanji because at least the weebs already know what Shojo means.

We should just rename this thread to nijinigger's House of lies if this keeps up.

>>11596634
>>11596734
Smaller scale shill streams go onto a system at Twitch called the bounty board. Mainly for newer and small streamers, sponsors negotiate with twitch who lists the offers which can be taken by anyone eligible.

>>11597634
>$9
Holofaggots and making up shit from their asses. Show me a more famous duo than this

>>11597745
Guy is just trolling but only Selen sold out for Obsydia. Rosemi sold around 55 and Petra around 30.
Nijisanji puts a limit of 100 for custom voice message and charges a bit over $100 for it there was a delivery time of about 1-2 months iirc.
HoloEN merch is all made to order so selling out is not a thing. The only thing that can sell out is the limited signed merch and from what we saw from the booth leak for Ayame, it's around 1000.

>>11597630
No they didn't rumao. You can't even mention it was limited customized voicepacks. Try making a post with even one accurate fact.

>>11597870
What a wierd system but sounds good for small streamers.
>>11597893
isnt limited merch alwasy selling out. i recall even robocos ilimted ran out for her glasses since i tired to preorder it.

>>11597893
Pretty sure Gura nendoroid sold out so fast they had to do a rerun of it.

>>11597394
i fucking hate the internet

>>11597893
>HoloEN merch is all made to order so selling out is not a thing. The only thing that can sell out is the limited signed merch and from what we saw from the booth leak for Ayame, it's around 1000.
Gura's nendoroid sold out and is getting a second production run. That's not really the standard merch, though.

>>11597893
At this rate, Petra might be the first NijiEN to offer discord dates with her donos, but wave 3 might be pulling that first.

>>11597993
Yeah, Holo merch sells pretty quick.
Here's a screenshot from back when Lazulight got their voice pack.
Finana was the only one who didn't sell out from what I remember.
They also do the "fake" discount shit.
>>11598016
That's a sponsorship deal, not the merch they make themselves.
But yeah, Gura was impressive enough to warrant a second run before pre-orders even closed.

>>11598016
It sold out because of scalpers - not real Vtuber fans. Doesn't count

Come to think of it, Kronii's superchat opening stream was the exact same thing as the nijien limited voicepacks.
>Say the line streamer!

>>11598129
That just means scalpers know there's a demand for it. Thus it does count.

>11598129
Nijifags' merch cope is getting more delicious by the hour.
Every single merch or concert ticket that anyone sells might as well not count then cause there's always scalpers

>>11598180

It's not even a good cope.

Existence of scalpers just means that demand is impressive enough that some people know it's worth to scalp.

They still need an customer base to sell to.

Hmm I wonder why nijiniggers are out in force today? Is there something untoward about how they are performing today?

>>11598245
No one scalps Niji merch I guess, kek.
>>11598314
I wonder. Thought there's no streams for Holo EN tonight and Niji EN gets the day all for themselves

>>11598364
>Niji EN
do you mean the Only relevant member?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A64uZhrnz4w

>>11597870
>top streamer's bounty for an hour shill
Got me curious so I looked it up

>>11598501
8K for stremaing phoenix ppoint for an hour?

Niji en collab could not even beat mori watchalong da fuck?

>>11598314
I wonder
>39,351: Pekora (Hololive)
>29,811: Botan (Hololive)
>18,827: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>18,435: Nene (Hololive)
>>11577127

>>11598555
The absolute state of nijisanji

>>11598572
Volume > a handful of standouts

>>11598555
>Niji en collab
BUT you supposed to combine their numbers!
we call it "NijiMath"

>>11598555
Kek, niji is nothing without kuzuha

>>11581028
You would be lyin is you say you wouldn't tap that

>>11598555
slene will be able to pass that, might reach 3k also.

Talking about scalpers. These booster boxes are supposed to cost like $60, and people are buying at 150% - 200% of official price.

>>11598688
What is this supposed to mean, even
>>11598465
>>11598725
Hey, at least there's Selen and Bora single handedly carrying their own respective branches. I can respect that

>>11598572
>Pekora
Shill stream, Sega paying for bots because they saw how bad the numbers were in her early streams
>Botan
Tournament buff. Doesn't count
>Nene
Whoring herself out for viewers

>Kuzuha
Only one with legit numbers because his fans are loyal and will watch whatever he streams

>>11587795
Hard to say for Moomer

Among Us plays different from DBD, you can't be openly psychotic and get away with it. Also, multiple impostors (guaranteed, consider the size of their game) might split view

>11598838
You are retarded and you should kill yourself, especially
>Botan tournament buff doesn't count
HAHAHAHAHAHAAH

>>11598838

>>11598811
What the fuck are "Used" Sealed products supposed to mean

>>11598838
I can accept Botan's numbers not counting if we disregard all the times Kuzuha topped the chart because of tournament buff.

>>11598811
Those really really sold well. Like they were a bit of a smash hit.
>>11598815
>What is this supposed to mean, even
More niji livers -> more total views -> niji is more popular -> niji makes more money.

>>11598838
say what?

>>11598984
Holo gets more total views with less streamers most of the time.

>>11598984
>>11570116
meh.

selene with 3k on turlly the star of niji EN.
she seems to be sucking the other nijengirls number tough

>>11599064
Cannibalization

>>11598984
>more total views
>100+ members
>>11599045
にじさんじ(149人)
4月 2億3425万
5月 2億3821万
6月 2億3393万
7月 2億5721万
8月 2億8221万

ホロライブ(51人)
4月 2億9451万
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>>11598838
>Tournament buff. Doesn't count
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

>>11599040
>something-something buff
doesnt count

>>11598984
Kek look at this nijicuck>>11570116

>>11597634
Pretty sure you are misremembering it. It's a 50-50 Niji:Liver cut for voice packs (after Booth 3.6% cut if they are involved, your 3.6% probably came from this)

>>11599246
add that there were no heavy hitters, Pekora, Marine, Miko..

>>11599288
Leave it to Holofags to be incapable of pressing Google Translate before posting.

>>11599246
>>11599058
>>11599045
Hey, I'm just saying the logic behind it. I'm not saying it's true, no reason to flame anyone for being a bit off. 2k isn't very much.

>>11599126
VOD views aren't too important.

some numbers from shitposter>>11599218

>shilling your tribalfag threads here

>>11599359
>VOD views aren't too important.
>YT
hah

selene with 3.5k.
No other En tuber streaming really makes a difference

>>11599370
Someone needs to take that screenshot and add Mori's current watchalong numbers to it

>>11599288
Why the hell is nijisanji taking a 50% cut on voice packs of all things.
They don't even give NijiEN the yell option.

>>11599467
Calli with her watchalong and Pikamee(2.7), but yeah..

>>11598838
>Tournament buff. Doesn't count
I mean, I'm not a tribalfag, but what the fuck is this kind of logic?

>>11599530
this is how their economic model work

>>11599467
devour collab sc reading now. one is watchalong stream no other holoens.

>>11599594
NIJICOEP
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>>11599631
Yeah that is my point

Selen FEAR stream
>40 mi in
>4,002 watching now

>>11598838
>>11599594
>Tournament buff. Doesn't count
>what the fuck is this kind of logic?

>>11599737
NijiEN inclining. HoloEN whores reclining

>>11598838
If tournament buff doesn't count then Kuzuha is a 10k streamer.

>>11599737
Wait, genuine question, what? Is she at a good part, or is the collab ending? She was at 1k8-2k around only 10'

>>11599828
colab ended already but as other said. hse is the only EN streaming somehting right now

She really hard carry NijiEN huh..

>>11599737
New game buff

Selen
>purple
Bora
>purple
Why are purple women so strong?

>>11599802
Get fucked holoEN!!

>>11599915
Heh Moona is purple too

>>11599931
Shut up! Wave 3 inclining!
Council is a failure!

>>11599887
oh right it is also new game buff
i tought she played it arlady but that was deadspace

>>11599915
Tower...

>>11599915
>Pekora, Suisei, Gura, Lamy, Kronii
not as strong as Blue women

>>11599915
Blue women are the strongest

>>11599915
More like why are purple women such midgets.

>FEAR
>"new game" buff
sure

>>11600103
"First time play buff"
"初見"

>>11599996
Can someone show wave 3 recent stream numbers? Did the debut buff help them or not?

>>11600192
They didn't get much of a buff due to Lazulight and Obsydia constantly streaming over them.

>>11600192
>wave 3
>debut buff
nani?

>>11600192
It's hard to say because they are barely a week old. It's possible that there wasn't any debut buff due to the rapid nature of Niji debuts, but it's also possible that they are still under debut buffs. Hopefully it's the former

>>11600278
>nijien threads preach unity
>meanwhile the livers do no such thing
NijiENfags seem like HoloEN refugees.

>>11600384
>rapid nature of Niji debuts
literally have 2 debut streams

>>11600501
He means that the waves aren't that spread apart. Look at the time it took for HoloEN to debut gen1 to gen2 (IRyS notwithstanding). Now compare that to how long it took for 3 waves of NijiEn to be released.

I guess they did not fully abandon Gura after her shinanegans on game pass

>>11600686
That's standard Nijisanji release cycle.
Wave 4 will come out in 2 months or so.

>>11600384
It's also possible that the relatively recent debut of Council has prevented bored Holofans from becoming tourists for Niji.

If Council debuted before the first Wave of NijiEN, would Lazulight even see the numbers they're seeing now? Or would they have Ethyria numbers?

>>11600728
After the males they are gonna cool it and not add anymore livers.

>>11600728
Can't wait for the wave 10

>>11600799
Who knows? I would hope they would re-evaluate after seeing that the current numbers for wave 3, but if their wave 4 (males) does well I could see them going to mixed waves or 2-3 males and 1 female going forward. If on the other hand the male wave ends up a bunch of sub 1k scrubs, well....

>>11600799
The magic number is 500 CCV. As long as Selen keeps getting 500 CCV consistently, Nijisanji will print more EN vtubers, just like ID and KR.

Today's superchats

>>11596807
There are already pros streaming anon, why would they need a vtuber to do that

>>11601458
Kson needs to change her pfp.

>>11601458
Based Kson dabbed on corporate chuubas

>>11601458
>Aqua's Karaoke got tons of SCs...
I feel bad for EN can't open SC while singing

>>11597887
$9-10 for normal voicepacks

Those are custom ones with custom voice and signature on a tapestry or something. Plus, iirc lazulight was also priced at those points but is discounted to $125-133 for first release kek. Not hating or anything, but those business practices should be shunned at. The quality of those items is not worth $250 or $125 at all even if you want to support your oshi. The markups is too damn high.

>>11601919
> Moona's after karaoke party
> Mori's after karaoke party
They won't get as much as a karaoke + SC stream, but it's still something.

>>11598099
Yeah those fake discount shit bothers me too

>>11602008
>after karaoke party
I feel bad for them more

>>11598099
>They also do the "fake" discount shit.
Wait isn't that illegal in the EU?

>>11601919
Flare too

>>11600716
that was a nc joke of her

>>11602008
Nobody gonna is watch after party, retard

>>11602221
They still make more in those streams than regular streams.

>>11602114
>>11602221
>>11601919
Understand that unarchived karaokes can't be monetized or they get striked retards. They can archive the stream if they sang permitted Japanese songs. Just look at Irys.

>>11602008
>>11602253
>movie watchalongs
>after party (except for concert/3d live)
are all lazy contents and should be for members only

So I sacrificed a human to day to increase Nijisanji's numbers. Hopefully it will work today.

>>11602348
>EN
>Sing Japanese songs
ngmi

At this point, no one else can take the top position from Hololive in the global stage. The brand has viewers even in Africa.....That's just impossible, even for Vshojo and Nijisanji

HoloMyth 2020 9 - 12
>Ame 372
>Kiara 338
>Ina 219
>Gura 206
>Mori 182

HoloCouncil 8 - 10/15
>Baelz 109.6
>Sana 101.8
>Kronii 89.3
>Fauna 80.7
>Mumei 65

Why are they so lazy bros...

>>11602664
Reminds me, are there any numbers for the streamed hours for NijiEN?

>>11602664
>Mori
>streams the least
>makes the most on average
Jesus fucking Christ
Gura is no slouch either. 4th with the least stream hours but also 4th in average earnings per hour

i thought this thread was only bad during seanigger hours bros...

>>11602664
>lazy western bitches
Honestly triggers me as a one year fan of hololive, disgraceful when you see how much holoJP grinds from their early months until now. Too many excuses, they only need to be consistent

>>11601458
>Patra
>Mito
Today was a good day

>>11602842
>He doesn't know it's Sea lunch time now

>>11602738
probably alot like avg 100 - 200+ hours. For example Selen has 18 streams so far (excluding today) and most of em are 2 hours - 8 hours long.

>>11602738
>nijiEN debuted half of year
>still no one makes an effort to do the same
normies,seaniggers and bandwagoners. they are only good at shitting this place

>>11602664
Kronii - no excuses, is just a lazy depressed neet. Needs to get over it and stream more, but internal motivation isn't something that comes easily to one who ends up in her position
Bae - concussed herself + bad net
Sana - lost her best friend of 20+ years, grieving
Fauna - Wisdom tooth removal kinda messed her up a bit, but is back now
Mumei - shorter streams due to uni exams
Really the only one who doesn't have a reasonable explanation is Kronii.

>>11602954
Yet not as much bait and shitposting as earlier

>>11602972
Honestly sometimes I think Kronii joined hololive to play Minecraft, not to stream

>>11602966
no eop fanbase = not important to numberfag. The niji jops don't numberfag their foreign branches aswell so no holo_data equivalent.

>>11603319
>>11603319
>>11603319
>>11603319
Migrate when ready