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11518827 No.11518827 [Reply] [Original]

>>Bu-but Hololive doesn't need good models because they have better talent.

What's your excuse now, guys?

>> No.11518852

who the fuck are you even baiting at this point

>> No.11518876

>>11518827
Did KSon start a vtuber company?

>> No.11518907

>>11518827
i mean, she's ex-member

>> No.11518930

>>11518852

It's 4chan. Everyone loves this kind of shit

>> No.11518937 [DELETED] 

I want nijiniggers to stop using my oshi to shit on Cover

>> No.11518957

>>11518852
Seeing all of these pathetic attempts at bait threads makes me think they're bug-men trying to pit Kson and Hololive fans against each other.

>> No.11518968

>>11518827
So it okay for a camwhore to because a streamer because she couldn't cope with being told not to do stuff

>> No.11518971

>>11518827
I just want Hololive to provide good 2D, 3D and Rigs for her talents.
People shell out millions to her 50+ streamers every single month, they are the biggest vtuber company out there.
Ame paying and organizing the NA anniversary not only showed she's a hardworker, but it also showed how Incompetent Cover is.

If I were on their place, I would go over and beyond to make sure they had everything they need to work, they make the money after all

>> No.11518973

Literally nobody said this, people have been blasting Cover for shit riggers and models forever. Even the notorious hugbox of Reddit got so mad at Gura's outfit that the mods had to lock it down.

>> No.11518979

>>11518937
taking meds should calm the voices down

>> No.11519010

These baits are so good

>> No.11519019

Hololive still has better talent.
Kaichou > whoever this is

>> No.11519027

How long before she get forgotten because all she doing is the same shit she did in Hololive

>> No.11519034

>>11519010
no, its low quality

>> No.11519049

>What's your excuse now, guys?
Hololive doesnt need good models cuz they have better talents

>> No.11519072

>>11518827
Hololive still has better talent

>> No.11519077

>>11519027

Until her Onlyfans debut where she's fucked in her ass.

>> No.11519086

>>11519019
>Hololive still has better talent.
enjoy it while it lasts, Holonigger.
Every single one of them will soon join her in Ksonlive

>> No.11519089

>>11519027
Her viewership has been declining if you're talking about that.

>> No.11519101

>>11518827
Watch Niji instead
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgeV4tMHtEY

>> No.11519105

>>11518937
Rent free

>> No.11519118

>>11519049
And not only known for a fuck up she did and couldn't cope with Cover telling her not to do shit

>> No.11519125

>>11519034

> Almost 20 replies

>> No.11519150

>>11519089
THART BECAUSE OF BUGMEN DOING STUFF TO HER VIEWS!!!!!!!!!!!

>> No.11519153

>>11519125
the quality of the board does not reflect the quality of the bait

>> No.11519157

>>11519125
damn it

>> No.11519159

>>11519049

Like who?

>> No.11519173

>>11519159
like me

>> No.11519186

>>11519150
Go to sleep already chang

>> No.11519212

>>11519153

There are known knowns. These are things we know that we know. There are known unknowns. That is to say, there are things that we know we don't know. But there are also unknown unknowns. There are things we don't know we don't know.

>> No.11519225

>>11519027
She more or less has the same viewership she did when she was in Hololive (she was never that popular outside of events and collabs). She was respected but people didn't really watch her solo streams.
She just happens to be loaded with rich gachis who will donate hundreds every time she streams.

>> No.11519251

>>11519153

> Almost 30 replies

Good bait imho

>> No.11519259

>>11518827
Where exactly is her pussy?

>> No.11519331

>>11519027
the only original girls are EN1, Fubuki, Miko, Marine, Nene and Botan.
Enjoy your Minecraft, Apex, Plug & Play, Undertale, Kuukiyomi and Mario Kart streams.

>> No.11519370

>>11519225
Hey chink bot, you dropped this
>>11519290

>> No.11519410

>>11519331

> the only original girl is Marine

Fixed

>> No.11519435

>>11518827
Today is proof that ksonfags hate hololive and everyone else as well

>> No.11519459

>>11519089
Because Kson is not Coco (metaphorically) , 100k people were in her chat room while her latest stream in kson had 5k viewers

>> No.11519486
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>>11518876
It sure sounded like that was her plan, or was it all just memes? Hard to tell imo

>> No.11519497

>>11518827
this is zoku. not yakuza

>> No.11519499

>>11518971
kek and that's why you're not a businessman. it all about cutting costs and maximizing profits.

>> No.11519506

>>11519089 #
Because Kson is not Coco (metaphorically) , 100k people were in her chat room while her latest stream in kson had 5k viewers

>> No.11519529

My hot take on Kson is that she's hot and funny

>> No.11519534

>>11519459
I find that pretty weird honestly.

>> No.11519584

>>11518827
Still not watching lol

>> No.11519602
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>>11518937
Why? They are right. Only people who refuse to watch non Hololive vtubers disagree. You faggots are unironically brand sheep at this point.

>> No.11519616

>>11518827

Mid hot and mid funny

>> No.11519635

>>11518876
Is Hana Flores joining?

>> No.11519656

>>11518937
Cover deserves a lot more shit than they get, the talent is constantly crying about management not doing anything except being restrictive

>> No.11519674

>>11519534
Me too, I believe that people really wants her to come back instead of having a new identity, streaming irl and not having her holo friends to interact on stream damage a lot her content

>> No.11519756

>>11519019
You do realize matsuri's roommate sent her a super chat during the stream right?
Don't be surprised when a few of the girls jump ship

>> No.11519787

Posting in epic zhang shitpost thread.

>> No.11519795

>>11519674
I think the greatest value is from streams where the holos interact. Her being Kson or Coco doesn't matter if she's isolated

>> No.11519830
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11519830

>K-son Gumi

She's going to make her own group. A japanese version of vshojo.

>> No.11519848

>>11519027
She gets way less views on her shitposters reviews obviously, but kson actually gets more numbers for regular streams than Coco over got, some of you have rose tinted glasses when it came to her streams, she rarely got over 1000 viewers for solo gameplay streams on Coco, she gets 4-6 times that now

>> No.11519867

>>11519830
Before the buyout from VShojo

>> No.11519871

>>11519486
It's memes until she starts collabing with a few regularly and they form a team and then it becomes incorporated.

>China cracking down on vtubing and outside internet usage

K-Son is unironically the winner, because China is divorcing itself from the global circles of internet and removing their capital and interest.

>> No.11519897

>>11519871
>China is divorcing itself from the global circles of internet and removing their capital and interest.
Anon they won't until everyone stop getting their shit made there

>> No.11519905

>>11519795
This is something I hate from Cover, don't letting her talents to interact with her anymore on stream (I honestly think all japanese corpos would do the same, take for example Lulu's roommate who is following the same path as Coco)

>> No.11519909

>>11519459
5k viewers is wayyy more than every non Reddit shitposters review stream she ever did

>> No.11519948

>>11519331
>EN1
>Original
This has to be bait, right? I fucking hate revisionists trying to paint myth as these great saviors of Hololive after EN2 debuted

>> No.11519951

>>11519787

We know, but we don't care

>> No.11519969

>>11519848
>rarely got over 1000 viewers
He didn’t even attempt.

>> No.11519975
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11519975

Hololive is the best and everything else is shit that shouldn't even exist, right?
So they should have the best models too, right?
Right?

>> No.11519994

>>11519506
unsurprisingly, her solo streams were all trash even as Coco.

>> No.11520001

>>11519848
No need to rewrite the history even superchat readings got more than 2k people watching.

>> No.11520017

>>11519994
BUGMAN BUGMAN BUGMAN BUGMAN BUGMAN BUGMAN BUGMAN BUGMAN BUGMAN BUGMAN BUGMAN BUGMAN BUGMAN BUGMAN BUGMAN BUGMAN BUGMAN BUGMAN BUGMAN BUGMAN BUGMAN BUGMAN BUGMAN BUGMAN BUGMAN BUGMAN BUGMAN BUGMAN BUGMAN BUGMAN BUGMAN BUGMAN BUGMAN BUGMAN BUGMAN BUGMAN BUGMAN BUGMAN BUGMAN BUGMAN

>> No.11520032
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>>11519975
Yes.

>> No.11520043

>>11519909
Wrong, all her Minecraft and Uma Musume streams got 10k+ in fact most of her streams were around 4-7k, the only time she ever dipped below that was when playing kusoge or doing zatsudans during prime hours.

Her viewership is lower now but that's perfectly fine without the hololive brand, she's still one of the biggest indies and still has better view numbers than quite a few JP holos.

>> No.11520053

>>11519795
>>11519674
You two really don't understand what she cares about.

Kson would gladly throw out every single friendship she has if it meant having gachikoi.
The other girls were becoming a distraction to her a hololive, as an indie, she can just relax and do whatever she wants with no expectations

>> No.11520058

>>11519159
Everyone was better than coco

>> No.11520078 [DELETED] 

>>11520053
BUGMAN BUGMAN BUGMAN BUGMAN BUGMAN BUGMAN BUGMAN BUGMAN BUGMAN BUGMAN BUGMAN BUGMAN BUGMAN BUGMAN BUGMAN BUGMAN BUGMAN BUGMAN BUGMAN BUGMAN BUGMAN BUGMAN BUGMAN BUGMAN BUGMAN BUGMAN BUGMAN BUGMAN BUGMAN BUGMAN BUGMAN BUGMAN BUGMAN BUGMAN BUGMAN BUGMAN BUGMAN BUGMAN BUGMAN BUGMAN BUGMAN BUGMAN BUGMAN BUGMAN BUGMAN BUGMAN BUGMAN BUGMAN BUGMAN BUGMAN BUGMAN BUGMAN BUGMAN BUGMAN BUGMAN BUGMAN

>> No.11520082

>>11520058
Is that why she's still the most superchatted channel on youtube? keep seething lmao

>> No.11520083

1 model 1 rigging 1 person
hololive has how many people, how many models how many rigs?
Of course you can get better quality if you are solo because you dont have to plan out this shit for 4-5 people at a time.

>> No.11520085

>>11519897
Factories are going to Arizona or India, China is in decline and hiding it with cooked books.

>> No.11520096

>>11519756
Don't think anyone cares if Matsuri jumps ship at this point kek

>> No.11520120

>>11520043
>using before China incident statistics
I was regularly in streams that barely hit 1k, I don't think a single terraria stream was over 1k

>> No.11520143

>>11520082
not for long, the menhera GFE is about to take over and let's not even talk about the scenario where Rushia graduates

>> No.11520164

>>11520120
Learn english and stop talking about things you have no idea about, you look retarded.

>> No.11520215

>>11520078
No I'm being serious, she said as much, she complained in hololive about the result of a survey she conducted showed people viewed her as a a comedian and she had very few gachikoi, that's why it made her sad

Why do you think you went out of her way to become a bobs and vagene streamer? Her 2b ass shot went around normalfag Reddit/YouTube

>> No.11520227

>>11519830
>She's going to make her own group. A japanese version of vshojo.
KSon Acadamy coming soon

>> No.11520318

>>11520215
Dumb and retarded EOP

>> No.11520327

>>11520164
Dude, I was in the fucking streams, inventing some alternative reality where you believe she was getting these huge numbers when she wasn't is fucking tragic, she left hololive because she was tired of comparing herself to people like pekora who have gachikoi who watch anything she does

Kson was still streaming games while she was playing Coco, this is because her gachikoi that are devoted to her are more important than some company

>> No.11520373

>>11520327
>Dude, I was in the fucking streams
You clearly weren't because you're saying retarded shit that has no basis in reality.
>people like pekora who have gachikoi who watch anything she does
You don't even know what "gachikoi" means you retard, how low is your IQ? this is an honest question

>> No.11520384

>>11520318
Look, you need to accept that kson has the life she wants now, hololive isn't what she wanted

>> No.11520413

>>11520082
No it's because she can speak English and her roommate is hot and a whore. Also pandered a lot to normalfags with plebbit review

>> No.11520467

>>11520384
I'm just calling out the bullshit and lies you're Stop making up shit, you're a retarded ESL that can barely write a coherent post.
>>11520413
>No it's because she can speak English
The vast majority of her superchats are from japanese and she barely used english
>Also pandered a lot to normalfags with plebbit review
You should be glad then, otherwise retards like you wouldn't be here then.

>> No.11520478 [DELETED] 

>>11520215
YOU'RE BUGMEN FOR SAYING THAT SHE COULD DO ANYTHING BAD!!!!!!!!!

>> No.11520516

>>11520327
She did compare herself to other holos, but not for the reasons you stated. It was more like "other members are getting this and that, and I'm sitting on the sideline, why?"
She started hating management, she knew that and left before she started hating hololive, or the other members start to hate her.
Fubuki in one of her unarchived streams said one thing, she asked why she was leaving. And Coco said, i love hololive, and that's why I'm leaving, before all of you start to hate me.

>> No.11520521 [DELETED] 

Meidos, he's ban evading again
>>11520078
>>11520478

Just rangeban him so he stops using his phone to post retarded shit all day here, it will save you a lot of work.

>> No.11520530

>>11520467
I never watched her nor the plebbit viewers. Her voice filtered me out

>> No.11520573

>>11520530
And that's why EOPs like you should stick to global and the discussion of the EN branch, you have nothing of worth to say and aren't smart enough to be part of the conversation.

>> No.11520582

>>11520373
Kson left hololive because she was comparing herself to other girls.
She literally said that.

She said that in particular, viewers saying "oh, you are only getting so so views," she went on a whole rant about disliking the word "only" and how she hates unconsciously comparing herself to the other girls.

On numerous occasions she also lamented about the lack of gachikoi, she wanted her members to be attracted to her, not feel like she is a joke.
This is why she made it a point to out her bust out front and center, all her old Kson content was similar, she only changed in hololive because her audience dictated it

Don't know what else to tell you man, maybe gets some sleep, respect her wishes?

>> No.11520611

>>11520573
>She sounds like shit
>I have to be an eop
???

>> No.11520645

>>11520521

Meidos ain't shit unless you post CP

>> No.11520655

>>11520582
Yes anon, i get it, you're an EOP who watched 2 clips and can't even understand a basic joke like her "i don't have gachikois" schtick, are you actually retarded?
>>11520611
Stop posting.

>> No.11520656

>>11518957
Chinks live rent free in you head I see

>> No.11520702

>>11520516
That is part of it, but she still said everything here about numbers affecting her >>11520582

Her solo streams were tragic, I constantly found myself going into them because I was sad how she couldn't get over 1k viewers, she worked really hard through shit times and the fact that we have people ITT revising history as if she wasn't suffering that last half year especially is insane

>> No.11520741

>>11520655
Watch some of ksons old content, watch some of her content she streamed while still playing Coco.
She doesn't want to be just a comedian dude

>> No.11520743

>>11520702
Wow she sad about low view as if that matter when she have a fuckton of money

>> No.11520746

>>11520655

You first

>> No.11520776

>>11520702
Most of her streams were around 4k to 7k, not 1k, you're basically making up snumbers out of your ass.

>> No.11520814

>>11520215
Even my dying world of warcraft guild discord posted her ass shot and they have no idea who she is and were all laughing at her whoreness

>> No.11520817

>>11520702
From what universe are you? I can't remember Coco stream with less than 3-4k unless if it was watchalong or SC reading.

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>>11518937
NIJINIGGER MAN IM GOING INSANE AAAASS THE B-B-B-BURA KILLER AIIIIEEEEEEEEEEE

>> No.11520863

>>11520743
This is about why she left hololive, she didn't care about the money, she just wants people to like her, sure, for validation, but 30+ year old child was women crave that

>> No.11520911

>>11520817
>>11520776
The terraria streams, I swear you guys aren't nearly the fans you think you are

>> No.11520927 [DELETED] 

>>11519602
Nijinigger hand type this

>> No.11520955

Why you fags post about Coco when you know fuck all about her???

>> No.11520961

>>11520702
Zhang, YT don't have weird multiplier like bili. She gets 5k minimum.

>> No.11521026

>>11520911
Most anons don't actually watch streams. They shit on shitpostreview but that's probably the thing they watch the most outside of collabs. You were going over the top with bad viewership were for her solo streams but it is true that pre-China and at some point in 2020, her hype decreased and her solo stream numbers were never strong compared to some of the others at the time.

>> No.11521033

>>11520955
Because she and I have sex every night

>> No.11521053

>>11520911
https://playboard.co/en/video/WojNYdXH_XE
>6333 viewers
https://playboard.co/en/video/quf66yb4Eek
>4969 viewers

You are retarded

>> No.11521083

>>11520582
Subaru also wanted more gachikoi. Gachikoi doesn't only relate to being attracted to someone. You can love a character without being "attracted" to them. They just wanted people who saw them as the number 1 instead of being a secondary choice or something.

>> No.11521135

>>11520911
Ahh, classic, "and now i have become a strawman"
I can point you to streams she had even less views, so by your logic those 2-3 streams represent all her career?
A stream of a game for hardcore autists, in a timeslot not good for her regular nip fanbase.
Anon, please.

>> No.11521153

>>11521135
But he's lying about that too >>11521053

>> No.11521160

>>11520655
>Stop posting
Stop being a retard. Coco wasn't special she was an average chuuba with a bad roommate

>> No.11521180

>>11521053
Noo you can't bring data!!!!!
Wojak.png

>> No.11521197

>>11520911
Anon.. non of these leddit faggots are an actual kiryukai. They never watch her and only knows her from clips and memes

>> No.11521220

>>11521160
Still the number 1 superchatted channel on youtube and her roommate still gets more superchats than almost every single hololive member.
I know these facts make you angry but coming here to cry about it all day won't change them.

Please keep seething and crying, watching you have a mental breakdown is always funny.

>> No.11521227

I just checked, so the comments so far
>oh my god new facial expression, cutting edge technology!

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>>11521197
Why do you keep replying to yourself when i already proved you wrong? >>11521053
Are you hoping people won't see my post or something? you really are desperate uh.

>> No.11521271

>>11521160
She was special but she wasn't as special as some people say. She wasn't as impactful as Kizuna or Mito. She's about as impactful as FBK, who people forget/downplay because China is gone now. China's vtuber scene and love for vtubers back then was mostly FBK's work. Alot of CN vtubers attributed themselves being vtubers to the fox. Cover made no money from the HoloCN branch but Holos like FBK/Aqua were big on bilibili. But Kizuna is still the most impactful for showing how successful/big vtubing could be and Mito for ushering in the era of L2D and streaming when before that people made fun of vtubers who didn't have 3D and shit.

>> No.11521326

>>11521271
Kuzuha and Pekora are just numbers btw. You could maybe Kuzuha is impactful for being male and using a male avatar but its more just Nijimales being successful.

>> No.11521384

>>11518827
Whatever you think of this, in a business sense she was probably smart to leave hololive. Her other streaming name was well known enough that she knew she would be able to reliably attract an audience. I doubt she’s making more money now, but I think eventually she will.

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meaty

>> No.11521459

>>11519656
They're not restrictive enough.

>> No.11521622

>>11519830
But Vshojo is just Western upd8...

>> No.11521640

>>11519948
holoMyth is vastly overrated im terms of praise imo

>> No.11521679 [DELETED] 

>>11519656
Restrictive such as? let me see what a nijinigger can list

>> No.11521736

>>11521640
HoloMyth absolutely deserves praise. The EN shit would not pop off as hard if instead of Myth we had Council or any of the NijiEN waves. Mostly Gura and Cali. If Cali's first song on her debut was shit, then there'd be a lot less praise but loli shark and JPs/weebs loving weebish rap music that's only slightly better than RWBY shit was good. Unless you hate ENs getting into vtubing.

>> No.11521782

>>11521640
holoEN legitimized the presence of VTubers in the west, stop seething and face that fact

>> No.11521844

>>11521640
Thing is, until Council they really weren't, they were criticized quite heavily even
I assume there's plenty of newfags getting into vtubing with EN2 with the old good new bad attitude towards EN1 because that's the only perspective they have

>> No.11521943

Really looking forward to her making good use of her new model in her next shit review. It will be peak creative freedom.

>> No.11522038

>>11521736
>>11521782
Don't mistake me, they are impressive but they are not some holy messiah.

I do think they get more praise than they deserve, not saying they should NOT be praised.

>> No.11522218

>>11522038
>but they are not some holy messiah
2nd coming is going to be as a vtuber. He will lead us through the final yab, defeat the black company of the sea and the ethots of the land, and deliver us into heaven

>> No.11522337

>>11518827
>because they have better talent
If c*co was good, she wouldn't graduate.

>> No.11522447

>>11521271
Leddit only comprehend meme and peepoo jokes anon. For them non of those thing you mention matters cause it's not titty punani meme review

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>>11518827

>> No.11522624

Projekt Melody (Japanese Version)

>> No.11522685

>>11518876
The Sunposters didn’t take their meds and look how far we’re going

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>>11518827
She looks nowhere near as good as Watame, Fubuki, Pekora, or most other Hololive idols. She's just a basic thicc girl with unkempt hair and glasses, that's just not interesting. The outfit is good but it doesn't feel like Kson the delinquent, more like Kson cosplaying as a delinquent. I wouldn't expect a lot of fanart, basically.
Hololive might not have the best riggers around, but they sure as shit have the best artists, and that's what really matters.

>> No.11522823

>>11520645
No, meidos are Anycolor Defence Force. I got a 3 day ban for calling out a samefag shill of Nina and Gundou.

>> No.11522900

She's really かっこいい now I hope she never shows her face again

>> No.11522966

>>11522703
>I wouldn't expect a lot of fanart, basically.
The tags are already flooded.

>> No.11522976

>>11518827
It's not the same anymore

>> No.11522984

>>11518827
Think of the managers and their salaries!

>> No.11523062

>>11518852
kek

>> No.11523223

>>11518827
Now thats a pretty good design, Hololive and Nijisanji should step up thier game. They need to stop hiring the lowest bidder, for example Anya and Gura RiggerNigger.

>> No.11523329

>>11518827
This is all a proof of concept from kson's part. She's gonna show the friends she made at hololive thag she can lead them to success and start poaching them. Starting with Kanatan.

>> No.11523410

>kson
>talent
At least try harder next time nijibro…

>> No.11523458

>>11522966
A whole... two artworks? On pixiv.
Not exactly flooded.

>> No.11523770

>>11523223
>RiggerNigger.

lmao its funny cuz its too damn true

>> No.11523801

>>11523458
Check Kson's twitter, bro.

>> No.11523835

>>11522703
>but they sure as shit have the best artists, and that's what really matters.

Literally the same artist that Hololive hired...
Atleast try harder mate.

>> No.11523894

>>11522512
Cover be sweating buckets if other holos with enough clout decide to follow in her footsteps.

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>>11519534
I don't think it's weird.
Holofans have shown time and time again that they only care about branding. This is why they refuse to branch out.

>> No.11523997

Still not watching until she gets some friends to hang out with
Nobody watched meme review for the person, they watched it for the people who came along the way for the little stage show act they put on during it

>> No.11524153

>>11523801
Wow it almost as if the tag existed before the model

>> No.11524276

>>11523960
The behavior is also encouraged by Cover, so in that effect the fans behavior is exactly what was intended.

>> No.11524282

>>11519534
>>11519674
It isn't really that weird. Kson and Coco aren't the same entity, and their contents are arguably not the same either. While Coco wasn't my oshi, I enjoyed her interactions with other Holo members (including my oshi). I find her attempts to tip-toe the restriction line cute and funny (no, not that "cute and funny" kind). She was interesting for me because there were her friends and a line to begin with. Kson doesn't have any restriction line (well, other than Youtube's), so it's less interesting seeing her playing around, and she doesn't have any friend to work with either (not yet). Showing her real life "assets" didn't help, either.
I went to Coco's free chat stream to participate in the final send-off to Coco, who was undeniably an important part of Hololive. I have no interesting in Kson as she is right now, so I didn't watch her. It's that simple

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>>11523835
So by flooded tags you mean her Twitter art tag? I see maybe a dozen things there, it's more than pixiv for sure, but business as usual overall.
>>11523835
Recently they started hiring the real big guns. LAM, huke, fucking Wada - these are some of the most prolific artists in Japan.
And artists are given better directions too. Cover wants actual character design, something that wouldn't be out of place in a videogame or anime. Coco's design was creative, Kson is just meh.

>> No.11524383

>>11524153
I literally just counted on her hashtag.
24 pics of her new outfit (not included basic linearts etc).
A few hours after reveal.

What is flooded to you? Can we get a numerical value how you define it?

>> No.11524428

>>11518827
Her model is a league above anything hololive can offer, but in all honesty, that is not hard to achieve.
This comparison that hololive, Cover is like Apple, brand is everything, loyalty is key, overpriced crap a goal.
There is no reason to upgrade models, when no matter how atrocious it may look, holofans will buy and praise it.

>> No.11524447

Don't forget anyone who say not great are q00% bugmen who can't cope with being beaten

>> No.11524505

>>11524338
>Recently

Literally 1y+ since they hired huke.
And he delivered the model for the least popular in holoEN.
A chef chicken with some bootleg Zelda sword & shield...

>> No.11524564

>>11524505
Tbf a lot of people did say Huke phoned it in and still do
He's redeemed himself somewhat with her outfit and loyalty to Kiara but I think the majority agree her default was weak upon first glance which is funny in a way its now considered iconic

>> No.11524567

>>11524505
>Literally 1y+ since they hired huke.
That's soon. Hololive has been around for some years now.
Still better than your average indie design. At least it's memorable.

>> No.11524592

>>11524505
Cover just should stop using their ancient l2d technology and buy license to use vtubeStudio, or at least reverse engineer it.

>> No.11524595

Your model can cost fucking millions but if your content is shit or people don't find you entertaining then what's the point?
Look at Kuzuha's garbage rigging, Doesn't matter though because people don't watch him just to see his model move yet he's one of the biggest V-Tubers in the world.

I personally find kson content and humour quite shite and having a flashy model doesn't change it for me, good luck though.

>> No.11524632

>>11524595
Same. She didn't seem to mention anything interesting so far, I hope this changes. Everyone was saying how her creativity will start flowing once she gets this model, and now the moment is upon us.

>> No.11524656

>>11524595
Bugman Taiwan is free and and not part of your shit hole!!!!!!!

>> No.11524716

>>11524656
"Free". More like under a new management. It's like a big American military base

>> No.11524723

>>11518827
Based Kson finally decided to say 'fuck it, I'll get a good rig myself' and quit Hololive to commission her own

I love Hololive but I respect that she wasn't willing to put up with their rinky-dink shit

>> No.11524744

>>11521220
>yeah but she makes money
Every time.
>I know these facts make you angry
No one gives a shit about your oshi's bank account except you.

>> No.11524774

>>11524716
So it got upgraded

>> No.11524784

>>11524744
And the IRS

>> No.11524799

>>11521844
Or that they have watched other streamers that aren't vtubers.

>> No.11524804

>>11524567
Memorable for being bad though sadly

>> No.11524806

>>11524784
Good point. She's gonna be utterly fucked now that she's an independent contractor paying taxes to two different countries.

>> No.11524817

>>11518876
No, it's her logo, she had a logo for a university too, she didn't actually own a university.

>> No.11524846

>>11519871
Imagine unironically mogging all of China as a side effect of supporting your homie.

Based

>> No.11524885

>>11524806
And I think you need to pay more taxes if you have get more money?

>> No.11524954

>>11524806
At least pretend to be somewhat knowledgeable about taxes, Japan as many other countries have agreement about taxes of their nationals outside the us, As she is resident in Japan for over a year, she is exempt from taxes from Us side, not fully but the amount is literally a pennies.

>> No.11524966 [DELETED] 

Ah Nijitrannies BTFO'd so hard
My oshi Kson formally Kiryu coco from Hololive mogged the fuck out of Nijiniggers
Based OP keep it up

>> No.11525035

>>11524632
>I hope this changes
It won’t. The saviourfag buff wore off and people are jumping ship faster than the titanic. This is only going to kill her enthusiasm for going indie. Also, as we found out with kson, going indie doesn’t automatically equal better content. Her situation is kind of depressing desu.

>> No.11525076

>>11524966
>Reddit: the comment

>> No.11525100

>>11525035
And sometime it mean worse content because there no one telling her not to do something

>> No.11525125

>>11524885
>you need to pay more taxes if you have get more money?
No shit?

>> No.11525128 [DELETED] 

>>11525076
I think you mistook me for a Nijinigger...

>> No.11525154

>>11525035
Cope harder zhang.

>> No.11525203

>>11518957
False flagging has been a thing since the beginning of the 4th gen, it's nothing new.

>> No.11525247

>>11525100
100% This

>> No.11525263

>>11524806
She's exempt from US taxes retard

>> No.11525330

>>11524806
the US and Japan have a contract that forbids double dipping
Atleast pretend you use google you retard

>> No.11525504

>>11524806
I don't think you know how taxes work...

>> No.11525541

>>11524817
AsaCoco Uni wasnt REAL?
My whole life is a lie...

>> No.11526059

>>11525541
Believe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qerh2Zll964

>> No.11526734

>>11526059
I'll pray

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each and every vtuber should make and rig their own models

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>outdone by fat lazy stoner with an iphone and some moth bitch from Alaska
How do you see this if you're Cover and not feel ashamed of your incompetence?

>> No.11527002

>>11526934
>How do you see this if you're Cover and not feel ashamed of your incompetence?
By not paying attention?
Do you think the 50 office workers in Cover are busy looking in the western scene or give a fuck?
Take your meds

>> No.11527009

Kson doesn't have talent. She's following the vtuber/ e-thot handbook to a T. She's no innovator; just a charlatan that claims the title as such.

>> No.11527067

Don't ask questions just consume numbers and get excited for next numbers

>> No.11527075

>>11518827
>What's your excuse now, guys?
There's a bunch of indies with better tech than holo, this is not something new so what you call "excuse" still applies Hololive still remains on top because of the talents period, now stop being an assblasted nigger and move on, she clearly did, now is your turn, tatsunoko.

>> No.11527167

>>11518827
Hololive literally doesn't even have better talent. The majority of the streams are the same few games on repeat.

>> No.11527403

>>11518827
yeah, they still have the better talent.

>> No.11527453

>>11527009
You're here because of her chinkchama

>> No.11527484

>>11527453

Chama is a type of alcohol yes?

>> No.11527536

>>11518827
Gura would be half as popular without her uniquely jank model.

>> No.11528213

>>11527167
>talent = games they play
Peak raterdation.

>> No.11528586

>>11518827
k
son

>> No.11528952

>>11520582
If she wanted to not feel like a joke, maybe she should have not tried to be the ultra crass class clown three quarters of the time. If she was letting the audience dictate her content, she was part of her own problem there. She had an audience that wanted her as a joke, pandering to that just ensures it continues.

>> No.11529030

>>11520911
>the terraria streams
Those were among her few good streams though. It's telling how bad her fandom was, that those had low views.

>> No.11529035

>>11528952
Don't just blindly believe every post you read here, the whole gachikoi 0 thing was one of her biggest running jokes that she played into all the time.

>> No.11529395

>>11524282
pretty much this, honestly. It is weird to see this considering all the talk about talents and their characters being fundamentally the same, which i agreed with, but there is somewhat of a difference between 'Kson' and 'Coco'. Its not a big difference, but there is one.

>> No.11529489

>>11519027
> not holding back on the dark humour
> not holding back on the memes
> not holding back on the echi stuff
you don't even watch her

>> No.11529669

>>11521679
> not allowing them collab with males
> suddenly cancelling events that had a lot of money and effort invested in it
i could make a long list about this shit, but that's the two main reasons

>> No.11529772

>>11528952
dont take random stuff posted here as facts unless they actually can post proof of said "quotes"

>> No.11529810

>>11529772
lurkmor newfag

>> No.11530473

>>11529810
rrat more

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SOON

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