/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

ccv + sc
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://overseas.live-ranking.com/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/total-ranking/youtube
>https://www.dousetu.com/daily_ranking/
>http://v-ana.com/
>https://playboard.co/en/

Hololive
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://twitter.com/holo_data
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://mipacd.github.io/chat-stats/excl-chat.html
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html

Nijisanji
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings

>>11451132
Best OP pic

SC opening streams for NijiEN Wave3

How does it compare to wave 1 and 2?

>>11451339
Reimu..
is she that bad?

1) Korone (Hololive) - 71k - Birthday 3D
2) Ayame (Hololive) - 86k - 3D Concert
3) Hal (Indie) - 57k - CR lottery
4) Noel (Hololive) - 101k - Outfit Reveal
5) Fubuki (Hololive) - 72k - Birthday 3D
6) Pekora (Hololive) - 45k - Minecraft (ENxSubaru)
7) Subaru (Hololive) - 93k - 3rd Anniversary
8) Pekora (Hololive) - 26.2k - Mario Kart 8DX
9) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 53.4k - CR Cup Tournament
10) Luna (Hololive) - 57k - Birthday 3D
11) Pekora (Hololive) - 52k - TotsuClubhouse51
12) Subaru (Hololive) - 38k - Card Unboxing with Luna
13) Kanae (Nijisanji) - 54k - Outfit Reveal
14) Pekora (Hololive) - 36k - Minecraft

I wonder if I should add this as reserved spot for winners
15) Naraka (Nijisanji) - 3D Debut
19) Suisei (Hololive) - Outfit Reveal
21) Marine (Hololive) - Return stream

>TOP WINNERS OF THE DAY - OCTOBER 2021

1) Korone (Hololive) - 71k - Birthday 3D
2) Ayame (Hololive) - 86k - 3D Concert
3) Hal (Indie) - 57k - CR lottery
4) Noel (Hololive) - 101k - Outfit Reveal
5) Fubuki (Hololive) - 72k - Birthday 3D
6) Pekora (Hololive) - 45k - Minecraft (ENxSubaru)
7) Subaru (Hololive) - 93k - 3rd Anniversary
8) Pekora (Hololive) - 26.2k - Mario Kart 8DX
9) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 53.4k - CR Cup Tournament
10) Luna (Hololive) - 57k - Birthday 3D
11) Pekora (Hololive) - 52k - TotsuClubhouse51
12) Subaru (Hololive) - 38k - Card Unboxing with Luna
13) Kanae (Nijisanji) - 54k - Outfit Reveal
14) Pekora (Hololive) - 36k - Minecraft

I wonder if I should add this as reserved spot for winners
15) Naraka (Nijisanji) - 3D Debut
19) Suisei (Hololive) - Outfit Reveal
21) Marine (Hololive) - Return stream

>>11451442

>>11451339
Not that great. Ironically getting monetization so soon might have hurt them a bit, as they kinda didn't have time to build up hype for their SC opening streams. That wasn't even Reimu's first stream with superchats on. She had them on in an earlier stream and didn't say anything.

>>11451442
Its unfortunate the one putting out good content is getting paid dirt.

>>11451674
off
i heard she was a "big fish"(150k+) befor niji

>>11451781
She had 150k subs but that was for being a singer, not a streamer. Her audience for streaming was generally double digits.

>>11451744
I didn’t include the earlier one that was much lower, because it didn’t seem to be her real SC opening. Just trying to be fair to her.

>>11451781
167k subs on YT but only 2.1k on Twitch, where she streamed.

It's weird how the Reddit hugbox still defend's Nijisanji expansion strategy by saying that NijiEN will cater to different tastes. And yet, they still ignore these proofs showing that the branch is not doing as well as they thought. I get that being nice is what they are, but this is borderline blindness for them.

Did the thread do Naraka 3D predictions? I literally only know her as another Apex vtuber.

>>11452346
I'll be conservative and say 70-80k

>>11452212
It's because most people don't give a shit about numberfagging, especially from people who are not fans of the groups they are acting concerned about. They're not shareholders, and neither are you. If you start talking in the Hololive subreddit about how their superchat peak was several months ago you'll probably be shouted down as well. Keep it here and don't be an autist.

>>11452212
redditniggers are retarded more news at 11

>>11452212
>expansion strategy
>different tastes
niji do NOT bring new viewers into vtubing.
but ppl will bitching all day long how HoloENgen2 was underwhelming

>>11452346
There's no way she gets any less than 40k. Anything less than that is pretty obvious bait. I'd say 60k is probably a safe minimum, but it's hard to predict since the content of the 3d debut can vary pretty wildly from chubba to chubba, and that pretty heavily affects the peak.

>>11452526
it was. one does not change the other. there's no way you can look at Sana being at just 201k and say that's not underwhelming. vtubing as a whole is not bringing in new viewers like it was back when Myth launched.

>>11452212
There’s been a new cope where they’re defending the wave spam by saying Anycolor makes more from multiple smaller streamers than a single big Hololive streamer.

>>11451907
Why did they pick her instead of Crunchyroll-hime? She's obviously not ready for this.

>>11452661
>Singer wave
>2 Singers are Vsinger rejects kek.

>>11452649
Uh...where are those "IRyS vs Lax/Obs numbers"......
It is true that HoloEan SCs are down, and part of that no doubt has to do with some of that getting redirected to NijiEN instead. Some names SC both groups, and they've only got so much cash. Imo it'd be interesting to see if it's just the amounts that are down or if the total number of SCs have gone down as well for the timeframe.

>>11452526
Numerous threads trying to drag down Council, from shitting on their designs to shitting on their talent and NijiEN’s newest wave ends up like this. Almost enough to make someone believe in karma.

>>11452661
I mean, Selen was small-time too and she's arguably now the most successful EN.
The true answer is that Nijisanji has a business model that works perfectly fine with streamers who only get audiences in the hundreds, as much as that fries the minds of tribalfags.

>>11452649
here is new cope for Niji-bros.
Nijicolor gets more money because of straemlabs donation has smaller cut, BUT "unfortunately" we can Not check it

>>11452793
Council is literally the gen 5 of holoEN I don't get how anyone is trying to defend their numbers

>>11452212
Outside of /#/, numbers are the streamers' concern, not yours.
"Doing well" is subjective and at the end of the day, as long as they're happy and making a living from vtubing, there's no problem.
To a regular fan, more chuubas = good because more options to watch and higher chances of finding someone you like.

I love numberfagging too, but keep that shit in these threads and don't spoil the fun for others.

>>11452820
>gen 5
>defend their numbers
?whats wrong with gen 5?

>>11452793
>designs
to be fair NijEN gen3's designs is great, rigging is..

>>11452915
you replied to the gen 5 schizo, are you new here? Ignore him next time

>>11452915
Please ignore the gen 5-anti schizo

>>11452346
I doubt it'll be lower than 60k, she's fairly well known. There's also a pretty good chance of big names showing up.

>>11452820
number threads devolving into tribalfaggery means that people can't accept that council is clearly far less successful than myth

its way easier to pick on irys than council nijibro

>>11452915
Nothing wrong with their number, it's just gen 5 schizo from /jp that still mad because Botan debut stole the ars 3D debut thunder

>>11452980
>>11452978
>Ignore him next time
no, that's why i was surprised some1 dare to say shit like that

>>11452944
I wish I could say Eythria's designs are great but the only one I like is trash. Reimu's fucking hair takes up a quarter of the fucking screen and makes her look like a mammoth.

>>11452988
>council is clearly far less successful than myth
this is a fact at this point, anon. there is no reason to argue

Getting harder and harder to predict when's JP6 debut is. It's already been more than a year since JP5 now, when are they gonna debut them.

>>11452649
>muh merch
>50 people earning $10 is the same as 1 person earning $500
>more games perms

>>11453079
she is pretty successful, anon, so she mb will get new costume relatively soon.

>>11453083
Council is successful, but it can't be compared to level of success Myth had. No other groups can be another breakout star like them again.

>>11452661
Crunchy Hime is probably a Crunchyroll staff so she didn't audition for either Holo/Niji.
>>11452793
This is just my narrative and I probably should take my meds but consider that people who are shitting Council are people who didn't make it like Fauna's schizo friend.

>>11452988
There's a difference between "Council is less successful than Myth" and "Coucil was a failure, shut it all down, Cover is reclining, bankruptcy soon"

>>11453088
never, just like pekor's outfit

>>11453088
I was hoping Lulu would be JP6...

>>11453088
When Cover feels like they need a new JP gen, which apparently isn't now.
>>11453192
I wish, just to see the absolute meltdown it would cause.

>>11451638
Add it with a speculation tag. Removes the finality of it but also lists some possible big events in the future.

>>11453144
>No other groups can be another breakout star like them again.
true, because of HoloENgen1 was The biggest funnel for EOP holo fans (and fans of vtuber'ss in general) during the highest peak of their popularity.

>>11453124
hah, nobody in lazulight even has a new costume, it'll be forever before Reimu gets one.

Another Niji Cover album coming out. Prismatic Colors sold gangbusters so I guess it was only a matter of time.
Even considering the licensing fees and royalties, idk why Cover hasn't tried to do the same when it'll obviously sell well.
Just get Suisei, Marine, Pekora, and maybe even Mori to sing 1 cover song and the album will sell like hotcakes.
https://twitter.com/nijisanji_app/status/1448861247278100490


Also, does anyone know what this is? Some song for a game? They're singing as characters.
https://twitter.com/nijisanji_app/status/1448852555811852288

>>11453088
No auditions open so the only way is if they managed to find talents from the gen 5 batch, and managed to convince them to stay on hold for more than a year. Not very likely.
I actually like it this way, beefing up their overseas catalog and taking in more staff/employees. Hololive seems like they are trying to get in the (not so)big leagues so getting a better support system is probably the best.

>>11453088
It'll be announced at the end of Fes3

>nijien's hologra ripoff is a ntr scenario
well i guess it will be successful with their current fans, but i don't think it will gather many new fans

>>11453247
Denonbu https://denonbu.fandom.com/wiki/DENONBU_Wiki

>>11453247
It's a multimedia project. Sara, Claire and Sukoya are Voice actors for some characters there

>>11453406
what happened to (you)r thread?
niji-fans didnt take the bait?

There is no such thing as spoiling the fun for others because redditors are too retarded to accept the truth

>>11451638
>I wonder if I should add this as reserved spot for winners
Just call it “FUTURE FAVORITES” and add the date in front too

>>11453438
>>11453460
>vtubers playing a character
Thanks, so it's like an extra layer to vtubing?

>>11453406
wtf is this shit? qrd?

>>11453247
I assume cover doesn't do a cover album for a couple reasons, they don't want to bother with the rights and they would rather concentrate on expanding their original repertoire for their big company concerts. I would be willing to put money on a bunch of new original songs being performed at Fes3 instead of most of the members doing covers.

>>11453513
Nah it is by Bandai. They are just hired on as Voice actors for characters.
For a holo example, some of the girls got hired on to do voice acting for bosses in the game Little Witch Nobeta.

>>11453547
its more the fact that their whole system for music production is lagging behind compared to ichikara and their sony music backing

>>11453547
Sora is gonna be releasing her cover album though so they are getting there, just not as fast as Niji.

>>11453247
>the licensing fees and royalties
You've answered it yourself. They don't want to do it. They could earn much more from original songs in an album.

I doubt Prismatic colors that sold for ~38k copies iirc has better profits that Holofest/Bouquet album due to royalties

That denonbu song sold pretty well.

>>11453715
>Nayuta in #10
huh. cool for her

>>11453547

>>11453653
>>11453761
Why are you two posting me Sora's cover album coming out when it's releasing under Victor Entertainment like the rest of her music?

>>11453751
AZKI hasn't streamed in more than a month...

>>11453817
They likely aren’t aware.

>>11453817
>>11453900
Yeah I forgot that Sora is under different label than the rest of Hololive.

>>11452820
>defend their numbers
Even weakest Sana beat the shit out of strongest Selen
And Kronii is Ina level or even more

Roboco, Nene and Towa played morning APEX today. Anything happening, like a new season opening or something?

>>11453715
My headphones must be garbage because that song sounds really bad. The electronic mixing seems way overdone.
>>11454055
Towa played because she can't sleep. I am not sure about the others. New season for Apex starts Nov 2.

https://twitter.com/nissin_psr/status/1448894015168925696
That nissin aqua concert that was canceled was actually moved to feb 2022.

>>11454055
towa couldnt sleep, nene plays it once a month.
Roboco just came back to it

>>11454055
Nah nothing happening.
>>11454071
Nene and Roboco are just playing some ranked because they want to.

>>11454071
>The electronic mixing seems way overdone.
3/4 of all vtuber songs sound like that for me.
I mean, 2hu songs overdo the mixing on purpose for style but anime songs generally don’t do that.
I don’t know if it is an attempt at a style or crappy mixers but vtuber songs have the electronic track going so loud it drowns the whole song with it.

>>11454159
I am usually fine with electronic music but the chorus for this one just seemed all over the place. And I definitely agree with the "electronic track going loud" thing.

>>11454094
jesas that gap, 7 months later than it should have been just because nissin underestimated how popular aqua would be.

>>11454094
Holy fuck that's like almost half a year of postponement.
NISSIN really got caught their pants down.

>>11454238
Is there a reason for the initial postponement. I guess COVID in general?

>>11454238
their site was DDoS according to them

Today will be an unremarkable day for Holos unless Pekora pulls out a rabbit from her hat or Ayame graces our unworthy existence with her exuberance

>>11454238
I'd imagine the reasons that it was a DDOS could also be true, in that DDoS + higher demand completely rekt their servers, so now they're trying to prevent both from happening by both pushing it to the future and also by beefing up their infrastructure. Hopefully no issues next year.

>>11454280
kek, “DDOSd” with customers trying to sign in into a system that was not tested for that load.

“We got DDOSd” is the “a wizard did it” of the computing world

>>11454299
I'd imagine the numbers will now be lower than expected because the hype has already died down.

>>11454378
is aqua and and 6 monthd is enough of time to rebuild hype

>>11454277
Nissin said they got ddosed. Nobody really believes them and iirc not even the chinks tried to claim they did it.

>>11454478
Technically it was a DDOS...it just wasn't an attack. Oops.

>>11454298

>>11454280
No it wasn't, they just completely failed to account for the sheer number of people trying to access Aqua's concert and ddos is just their way of saving face.

>>11454546
Again? I swear, EN server is just JP server+ at this point. Is there anyone in EN playing MC anymore?

>>11454976
t. Nijinumberfag

>>11454976
Well, considering that the last time shiraken was on, Ina and Ame were there.....yes, it's just not all on screen and there's also way more JP chubbas in Holo than EN.

>>11454976
Fun thing is that EN seldom goes to JP server

>>11455126
I expect that to change now that we have Council. Myth was just to autistic to hang out with their JP senpais.

With one side of the mouth
>I’m tired of Minecraft, that’s all EN does these days
Then, with the other
> Is there anyone in EN playing MC anymore

>>11455221
>Myth was just to autistic to hang out with their JP senpais.
Kiara, Ina (40%)

>>11455221
And how JP server is too established, it's more like an attraction for EN but not a place for their project.

>>11455257
duality of holofags

>>11455275
>not a place for their project.
same for JP girls, right now

>>11454298
SubaChocoLuna would be a strong contender if they did it in Subaru's channel, but alas.

>>11455289
Yeah, “holofags”

>>11454976
>30+ JP girls vs 11 EN girls

>>11455326
at least it is on Luna's channel

>>11455316
Botan and Pekora are starting their business now and I believe others will start to follow.

>>11455401
So benefits more for the JP members than EN?

>>11455401
>https://holo.poi.cat/
add here Watame who WILL biuld her "Watame-Janken" in EN

>>11455420
it benefits ALL of them, dumbass

>>11455448
"MORE"

>>11455431
Probably going to make giant statues of EN girls after that too.

>>11455539
in term of numbers it will be hard to say

>>11455126
Well to be fair, there's like 30 JPs while only 11 ENs.

>>11455561
adn help Kiara with her town (extra colllabs inc)
+ Orange bird forced Watame to become her roommate

>>11455593
>7 JP gens with (usualy) 5 members
>30 JPs
anon....

>>11455659
gen5 - 4
genG - 3

>>11455659
add here>>11455709
-Ayame (she doesnt stream anyway)

>>11455709
don't forget gen4 - 4

9M
If it keeps the current growth rate it will hit 10M by the end of this month.

>>11455752

Side note, it bothers my numbers autism a bit how Kiara and Ina are no longer neck and neck to each other, 2k gap between them now.

>>11455906
bots arent cheap, anon

>>11455936
They're not niji, anon

>>11456189
unfortunately for nijifags they are buying bots only for nijiJP

Any way to remove these stuck streams on Holostat?

>>11455936
>Youtube 2021
>Still think bots still work
nijitards...

>>11451638
Marine might actually be returning on the 22nd, also the 21st has Suisei's live which might get pretty high numbers too

>>11453751
I wonder why Azki even bother streaming when she was already successful as an indie?

>>11456341
If bots work Kizuna AI would be 3M already

>>11451638
>21) Marine (Hololive) - Return stream
does 80k sounds reasonable? Or way too optimistic?

>>11454478
Yeah that's the thing that throws the entire claim into doubt, the chinks are basically Isis at this point, if there is even the slightest chance they can claim responsibility for yagoo stubbing his toe this morning they'll take it and shout it loudly from the rooftops. The fact that they remained silent all this time proves that the fault is on Nissin's end and not an external party

>>11456401
The nips seem to love their return streams so it doesn't sound unreasonable, especially since Marine is sure to make an event out of it.

>>11456401
80k for a regular stream post Susan is a bit too optimistic. I'm thinking 55k with around $22,000 superchat.

>>11456273
You need to ask the coder, it's on his side

File a bug in his github

>>11456377
>If bots work Kizuna AI would be 3M already
kek, you would think so but she needs to offset the hemorrhage of lost subs she most certainly than not gets every time there is a "cull".

>>11456401
Depends on what she does on her return. 80K seems too optimistic if it's just a normal stream.

>>11456468
Is it bugged on your end too?

>>11451339
Not sure why you've decided to not count the all streams related to monetization opening.

>>11456425
Don't compare chinks to Isis
Isis use guns to fight
Pathetic chinks use keyboards to fight

>>11456401
>>11456462
>>11456502
>>11456448
>especially since Marine is sure to make an event out of it.
It's not impossible that it could be a "double return", because Haachama and Marine have a collab that got rescheduled
>H-art review collab of them both

>>11456515
Of course. That happens when a scheduled stream is not broadcast, the code likely doesn't have a hook for cancelled streams so they just get stuck.

Once in a while the coder purges them from the BD "manually"

>>11456538
C-thing

>>11456515
It’s bugged for everyone.

What numbers did Pekora get on her return stream after the member's stream meltdown? I remmeber that being quite high despite her only taking a short break.

>>11456524
Most of chinks are losers and virgins pls understand

>>11456596
>member's stream meltdown
QRD?
btw what was the reason for Marine?

>>11456650
Her throat problem getting worse.

>>11456596
It was her second highest number this year, trailing only the prison outfit stream

>2021-01-28 :: 62498/86841 :: 【歌枠】みんなおひさし!!!!!!!!!!!!ぺこ! (return from break)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcPx-vFDtjE
https://holo.poi.cat/stream/xcPx-vFDtjE

>>11456650
Her cancelled project was pretty important to her, whatever it was, and the cancelling of it tilted her pretty bad so she took a break.
Marine, her throat hasn't healed up and while it hadn't really gotten worse, it wasn't getting better and there was some bleeding apparently, so she went on a proper break this time.

>>11456650
>QRD?
Pekora had a really shitty and underwhelming birthday stream which also ruined her original song release, a few days later she started crying in the middle of a stream (probably read too much 5ch) and cut it short, then immediately started a members only stream where she openly complained about management treating other holos better (she had talked about a project she wanted to do earlier but had been denied, and apparently some other holo got to do something that was similar) and threatened to cut her super chat for good because the money she earned wasn't being returned properly to her fans, all while crying her eyes out. Then she took a one week break and came back as if nothing had ever happened.

>>11456809
why does Cover treat their best talent like this?

>>11456858
given how lamy's initial manager treated her i'm going to guess most of the upper management put too much faith in the personal managers of the girls to help with projects

>>11456911
>lamy's initial manager
i keep hearing about this, was this another Mel incident

>>11456858
Best or worst, for a company full of menheras, this is how you do it.

>>11456858
I'm all for Pekora's atitude of standing up to Cover when she thinks she's being treated unfairly, but in this case I'm really suspicious that a lot of it was just Pekora going menhera because of a lot of shit coinciding to put her on the edge. Not to say Cover doesn't treat talents like shit, but most of the stuff she said is pretty much verbatim what was being posted on 5ch at the time, in particular one notorious schizo who always posted copypastas about how Pekora got inferior treatment compared to what he called "privileged" holos. I think all parties involved were retarded this time.

>>11456858
Well we don't know what kind of project she wanted to do. Considering that Cover approved Marine's super expensive MV project and Lamy's sake project. I think it's something unreasonable or out of Pekora's abilities.
>>11456935
Lamy's (well it's gokisei's) first manager said to her that she doesn't mesh well with the rest of Hololive members so she will have hard time collabing with them. He also said to gokisei to just suck it up and don't cry when Aloe left.

>>11457049
>Pekora falling for 5ch rrats
kek, I can see that happening.

>>11456858
Check your privilege peko

>>11457184
ogey

>>11457122
>Lamy's (well it's gokisei's) first manager said to her that she doesn't mesh well with the rest of Hololive members so she will have hard time collabing with them. He also said to gokisei to just suck it up and don't cry when Aloe left.

based manager

twitter numbers https://tsuiran.jp/pickup/20211015/23408#

>>11457184
Incidentally, her meltdown was also shortly after she accidentally showed her browser home-screen on stream and everybody found out 5ch and Vnuma were among her frequently visited sites. That probably weighted heavily on the breakdown.

>>11456858
Pls Undstd funding Pekoland would literally bankrupt Cover.

>>11457223
Based, but also 'tarded (not that you can't be both at the same time...)
Can't have someone without social tact managing a bunch of potential and actual menhera.

>>11457368
For something which is supposed to be "numbers" it surely has a whole lot of non numerical characters and the chart got eaten because Twitter doesn't allow hotlinks.

Here is what I suppose to be the "meat" of the article.
>pic related

>>11456401
yeah its too optimistic im expecting numbers just slightly higher than her zatsudan after she got randomly banned

>>11457519
what is this moonrunes niggaaa.....

>>11457580
Nah, that's just asking too much. Do your kana and 1st grade kanji reps

seems like Mori didn't get the Jump King buff that Pekora got

>>11457648
B-but.... this is not /jp/??

>>11457660
she's being a dumbass and suddenly decides to explore the DLC area early on, which makes her numbers stagnate, but she seems to come back to the main route, so her viewers is increasing again.

>>11457519
Kind of surprised that males in their 30's remains overwhelmingly the largest section of holo fans. I had assumed it had started to skew towards younger audiences over the past year. Then again, twitter accounts is hardly a reliable source.

>>11456538
She would probably get more numbers with a solo zatsudan.

>>11457519
manjisanji?????????

>>11457519
does this only tracks japanese twitter accounts?

>>11457758
thats for nips, id assume enfags are a lot younger judging by how most of them act on twitter and reddit

>>11457758
I'm more surprised that holo fanbase doesn't have that many 50-60 years old male fans

>>11457519
Getting half the tweets of your competitor despite not having your own Twitter tag us nothing to scoff at imo

>>11456787
Sorry about that, my bad. I'll try to be more careful with Marine's throat in the future.

>>11457660
Look at Okayu and Kanata's numbers if you think Jump King buff occurs to everyone.
Mori is going to get 20-30k when she finishes the game, not before.

>>11458055
>30k

Isnt that way too high? She don't even get 30k on her unarchive karaoke.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doNszB5KLzw
Today's winner?

>>11458152
Depends on timezone, if tweets go trending, time it takes etc.
If she has to end the stream and come back another today, the numbers could get to that level off of the anticipation, but yea people don't sub so much to Mori for her livestreaming, they do it for her music.

>>11458195
i think theres a niji 3d debut today iirc

>>11458195
Nope, there is no way niji's 3D will lose to this fucking rabbit today

>>11458195
naraka 3d

>>11458227
Also you should consider that mori isn't doing it for 3 straight days(like pekora) she takes break in between.

>>11458195
No, there's the Niji 3d debut coming up.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EY62MO3bOPE
I doubt even Pekora can beat this today.

>>11458195
Unless Pekora gets 70k, no chance it beats Naraka's 3D debut

>>11457884
Anon anyone can make a tag. They don't have a TOPIC
Which anons greatly overexaggerate as a useful boost to Nijifag tweets, because the Nijitopic contains vtubers, fanartists, and livetweets, when Nijifags are already following those people. Idk if the anons who say topics are anything but negligible know how Twitter operates.

>>11458285
Pekoea even created a drama by crying on stream for being afraid she can't finish this game
>Can Mori do that?

>>11458195
Lol, delusional Holobronies
If Pekora beat niji's 3D today we nijifans will eat shit for 10 days

>>11458285
Yea, Pekora doing it for 3 days leading into the finale really boosted it.
>>11458376
Hell no, She'd just be super salty and maybe rage at worst.

>>11458492
I thought Naraka's 3D is tomorrow anon. I'm not a tribalist.

>>11458492
>we nijifans

>>11458344
>when Nijifags are already following those people.
Honestly not sure about this.
There's been a lot of cases like Lulu's graduation tweet, Gibara's graduation tweet, Fuwa's 3D debut tweet, Ib's 3D announcement, Kuzuha's 1 mil sub milestone tweet where the engagement on the tweet is ~33% of their number of followers.
That's an insane engagement ratio that can only be explained by a lot of non-followers liking.
I think it's possible that Nijjifags just follow the topic to keep up with the company rather than follow 30-40 livers.
I mean, they don't even watch streams or sub to them, so considering how casual they are, it makes sense.

Moris jump king will only start getting attention after shes past the snow part

>>11458492
>we

>>11457667
Even for this humble numbers.thread to have a passable knowledge of kana and kanji (no need for fluency, just the numbers, the counters, "man and woman", the name of the companies) is important because lots of number related stuff is ferried from the nip side to this side.

>>11458635
>oshi retweets their coworker
>retweet my oshi's retweet
It works like that. Or they follow the Nijisanji_app account. There is also trending. Hololive trends. Nijisanji trends. You don't need to pay for trends.
If you follow say, Natsume, and saw Kuzuha trending, you go check it out since he's in the same company, not rely on the topic bot to place his tweets on your TL in favor of the other random shit happening, plus most people browse by latest and not by top. Nijisanji has "tourist" fans as you can see by 2k performers getting 70k 3D debuts. Several livers have more twitter followers than subs.
I follow a handful of Nijis and some fans/fanartists and I still get news on random livers I will never follow or watch, without following the disorganized as fuck topic.

Sorta sad the numbers dont go up when EN's join each other's stream, unlike JP but I should expect it, EN just works different from JP.

Good opening numbers. Not "day winning" but good

>>11458907
How long until "trip to EN server" stops being a buff?

>>11458886
>Sorta sad the numbers dont go up when EN's join each other's stream
Imagine saying this after we just saw 3 weeks of spikes in Minecraft because of impromptu collabs.
These are middle of the night times for EN.

>>11458886
Who the fuck is Sorta?

>>11456809
surprisingly, the vod is still up
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efWs0F4xJW4
the public stream before this is down tho

>>11458886
well...most ENs are sleep

>>11458770
follow the niji topic and you get bombarded with the talents tweets.
>Several livers have more twitter followers than subs.
it isnt common outside niji. That is why the mismatch is attributed to the topic.

What's with the relation between the damn CCV and views, I dont get it. Not even comparing 2 different talents, just within their own channels there are discrepancy already.
Miko Ace Attorney 2nd run not only has more CCV, Max and average, but is also longer, yet I dont think it can hit the same views of the 1st run.
Gura fuking gacha shill stream has more views already than the 1st DMC4, and the 1st Metroid Dread run. Are there seriously more people checking out the VOD when the Live interest is only at 16k max, lower than both of the other 2 streams?

https://youtu.be/5To0jXm8H7c
That's a lot of views for regular clip also change the top comments to newest first you will be surprised.

>>11458979
t.newfag

* NijiEN day so far *
What are those privated streams by Enna and Millie?
Still a little early to make "unarchived" streams, considering they need to grow their VOD portfolio to give people a chance to know them better.

>>11458979
>Timezone Timezone Timezone
3PM PST burgers are still at work
They will check VOD after work

>>11457519
Anyone want to try guessing other peaks?

>>11459048
What about Miko?
And in the vase of Gura, her fans actually want to check out the gacha shill stream more than DMC4 and Metroid Dread?

>>11458966
>the public stream before this is down tho
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rA2F8V-Cuug
It's still up, but with cuts.

>>11459067
I'll assume Kuzuha 1M is that big one in the start of september

>>11458770
>not rely on the topic bot to place his tweets on your TL in favor of the other random shit happening
Well we're heading in speculation territory here, but why do you think casual nijifags would go through all the effort of checking which Niji is trending, going to their tweet and liking it, rather than just follow the topic and have the top tweets spoonfed to them?

>>11459042
I tink mellie showed her hands while making takoyaki.
what the hell is nijiscenario? is that a collab?

>>11459074
It was her first time playing the game (first time any holo played the game for that matter), it's not surprising at all that a large number of people just came to check it out but didn't stay for long. Same can be said for VOD views after the stream was over. I know I was one of those.

>>11458907
Those are still within Miko's regular numbers. It's when it starts to hit 20k+ that I'd say the buff effect starts to hit for her.

>>11459074
>Co-stream with Amelia
Yes

>>11459074
>her fans actually want to check out the gacha shill stream more than DMC4 and Metroid Dread?
Well it's debuff games vs GurAme shenanigans, even if it's a shill stream.

>>11459074
...Yes.
There's also a tourist buff going on with the Cookie Run shill stream, since they tweeted out the sponsorship, attracting more eyes than usual. There were also more greynames in chat than usual as well (anecdotal) so there's that.
As much as Gura and her core fans may enjoy dmc4 and dread, the more casual base of hers ain't watching that shit that's for sure.

>>11459128
>I tink mellie showed her hands while making takoyaki.
Unless her hands are black or dark brown who the fuck cares these days?

Very recently Haachama blazed that trail of not giving a fuck (after not many months ago they had to private that off collab of hers, Rushia on Coco-kanata house for a Rushia finger appearing on camera) and it was followed by a fuckton of "gacha card opening" with cameras that may or may not show the streamers hands (or imply it would)

>>11459128
It’s their version of umisea if you want to compare it to anything holo related

>>11459067
One of those holo peaks might be Bloom. Another one might be the BL doujin drama.

>>11459128
>mellie showed her hands
Why is this whore acting like virgin fucking Mary now?

>>11459074
ENs in general get more after-stream VOD views than JP, but Gura is an unmatched monster in this regard.
If you look at the other HoloENs, everyone has pretty mid-tier HoloJP CCV numbers, but they almost always end up with 100k+ VOD views.
We have gotten used to it at this point, but it's pretty ridiculous that most ENs stream in the afternoon/work hours rather than night-time like JP.
For both Holo and Niji, there's not many vtubers streaming in the 3-5pm slot, and everyone crowds the 8-11pm slot. Pekora only streams that early when it's the weekends.
>check out the gacha shill stream more than DMC4 and Metroid Dread?
It was an Amesame collab so ofc.

>>11459164
There is a competing "semi-special" stream going on at the same time: Subaru (plus Choco and Luna) will suck in all the "buff" to their stream

It's weird how different streamers from both companies react to their foreign coworkers. On one hand, Hololive members seem to be welcoming and open to interacting with their foreign coworkers. On the other hand, Nijisanji members barely acknowledge their existence aside from notable. This also applies to the fans as well.

>>11459310
Someone answered already but more opinion is always better. What about within Miko channel, her 2nd Ace Attorney has better CCV and longer but the views, from what I can see, couldnt catch up to the 1st run.
She get more people interested in watching Live the 2nd time yet fewer people care to watch VODs?

>>11459042
https://twitter.com/EnnaAlouette/status/1448859293319639053 editing something (don't remember anything in particular that needed to be editeda0

>>11459429
>She get more people interested in watching Live the 2nd time yet fewer people care to watch VODs?
Maybe that or it's just youtube being youtube and doesn't count the people tabbing out.

>>11459426
How so? Hololive got worldwide recognition before they debuted non-jp members while Nijisanji started recognizing their non-jp members properly only this year.

>>11451442

She had a ton of competition that hour. She screwed up with the time slot

>>11459426
how many times do I have to read this post?
Niji JP/fans don't even know all the members in the JP branch let alone the international branches.

>>11459429
The times are only 30 mins in diff, and looking at the viewcharts, they both have the shark fin pattern of people leaving and re-entering due to the case nature of the game, and the difference in peaks is only 300 so it's negligible.
The simple answer seems to be one VOD is 3 days older than the other so it has more views.
Generally speaking, 1st stream for these types of games get the most views and interest fades overtime anyways.

https://holo.poi.cat/stream/r833phLhFyE
https://holo.poi.cat/stream/UHxBZ7Or-78

>>11459426
Holo Minecraft EN x JP < Nijisanji world collabs
in both quantity of happening, and who did it first. This post reads like someone who has no idea what Nijisanji is up to.

>>11459728
True, but it's also true that it doesn't seem to be translating into interest in the foreign branches, likely because as other anon's have said, there's just too damn many Niji Livers.

>>11459728
>Holo Minecraft EN x JP < Nijisanji world collabs

>>11459850
>in both quantity of happening, and who did it first.
NTA, but learn to read

>>11459728
>Nijisanji world collabs
Literally nobody cares

What is the average subs for a YT streamer ?
It should be much lower than video uploader.

>>11459915
Most streamers are also uploaders.

>>11459850
I never said it was better in quality you thin skinned fagola

>>11459906
>>11459850
>>11459728
What even the hell is Nijisanji World Collabs??
It seems you guys just want to shit on minecraft streams because they bring numbers.

>>11459915
>What is the average subs for a YT streamer
I don’t have hard data but you can easily assume 10k subs is a ceiling so high it would push the median average easily into the 3 digits (meaning more streamers are under 1k than over 1k subs)

>>11459915
What's the difference between a streamer and an uploader? A stream after it ends is uploaded to the channel unless it is deleted though.

>>11460008
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Nijisanji+World+Collabs
It's really not that hard lazy anon.

>>11459776
The anon I am replying to is talking about the streamers interactions, not the numbers generated. Anyone with eyes can see that Holo MC collabs will always top some random Niji including the outer branches in a game.
>>11460008
Nijisanji collabs involving outer branches, how fucking new are you here?
And why are you all so hyper defensive when I wasn't even shitposting, merely answering a wrong statement?

>>11459994
You restricted it a little too much. Of course JP Niji had “world collabs” before Holo specifically “EN x JP” specifically “Minecraft” collabs.

That is not what was being discussed tho

>>11460066
Pure uploaders, like some big music channels and movie clips channels, which mean streamers will have low VOD percentage compared to them.

>>11459728
>>11459776
There was an anon here who proposed a rather plausible reason as to why NijiJP don't seem to be receptive to their international branches. Basically, since those branches aren't actual draws and are looked at as little brother/sister branches, JP fans tend to consider them as sideshows. Hololive EN on the other hand are considered as celebrities due to their success by the JP fans so they tend to be classed as part of the main act instead of a sideshow.

>>11460066
Video length?

>>11460166
Huh. But wasn’t Peko Moona very successful despite ID always being a minor branch with a language barrier to boot?

>>11460338
JP branch finds Moona and Mori’s autism as cool for whatever reason.

>>11460162
Some channels I can recall, and having good VODs are ProzD for skits, mafumafu, Ado, Calli for music. The subs are in the 2-3m range, VOD in the 2m range (skits normally cap at around this), if a superb music videos can reach 5-10m range.

>>11460338
PekoMoon is the one miraculous exception and to pretend that it can be replicated is just being willfully retarded.
Iofi has been collabing with Sora and Watame for ages.
Reine and Ollie have collabed with a dozen JPs as well.
None of them come close to Pekomoon.

>>11460338
Peko Moona arc is after the Myth initial boom, and Gura and Ame collab with Moona for their first JP tour. Not that it matters but just give you a sense of the history progression.

>>11460166
>Hololive EN on the other hand are considered as celebrities due to their success by the JP fans so they tend to be classed as part of the main act instead of a sideshow.
That wouldn’t explain HoloID, which precedes EN by half a year or more.

Actually the same thing that happens with Niji used to happen with HoloID back in the days too. There is one moment I can’t find out anymore (must have been swept with the Holocaust) where there was this JP-ID collab and one of the JP girls (Sora?) asked to be of the ID girls (Iofi?) something to the effect of
>so, what company you belong to?
to which a very flustered Iofi answered
>t-the same as yours, I’m from Hololive too, you know?

That only ceased to be the case, despite the odd collabs between those two branches, when ID first visited the JP server, gen 5 debuted and LapizLazuri happened.

Moona pretty much legitimated the ID branch as “real Hololive”.

Alright you niggers, stop timelooping the best alchemy or what between branches.

>>11460481
HoloID x JP numbers are nowhere close to HoloEN x JP numbers.
What he said about NijiJP fans treating IDs as the younger sibling branch applies to HoloJP and HoloID as well.

>>11460481
So what you're saying is Niji needs a Pekomoon moment to legitimize EN/KR/ID to the wider Niji audience...
.
.
.
Oh gods they're doomed.

>>11460543
Ayame?!

>>11460543
Well 40k get at 15min in, let's see how much further it can go.

>>11460481
>asked to be of the ID
Asked one of

>>11460436
Basically, compared with channels having similar subs, Gura is using her stream VOD against music, highlight, and clips VOD.

>>11460481
ironic since Iofi and Sora got pretty close the last few years and even have a small radio show together

>>11460597
Depends on what she's going to do with the remaining time. Right now it's a generic screenshot time.

>>11459042
Holy shit, they just debuted right??

>>11460166
JP nijifags are just more xenophobic than JP holofags. I'm not even joking.

>>11460677
It's kinda fucked up that /#/ was mocking Petra and Rosemi's sub-1000 numbers a month after their debuts and now wave 3 is already there after 1 week.
The most concerning part is they're getting 800-1000 even when there's no Lazulight/Obsydia overlap.

>>11460610
I dont get the purpose. The types of video are too difference. Just the length alone is a big factor in the VOD rate already.
Her audience will watch streams so her stream VODs will be better than streams of other channels, since their appeal is short video (music, skits, highlight). ProzD sometimes streamed and his VODs are really low.
On the other hand, Gura skits, highlight might not be on par with his since her audience is not into that.

>>11460703
Meanwhile Holofags had to share with CN and bilibili before their breakout success late 2019 early 2020

some thought Naraka might get 100k on the JP side.

The “Gwelu line” surely is cutting high today

>>11460784
China was still very relevant for holo all the way up to the Coco yab. They were trying, albeit timidly, to push fore more interaction with the Chinese branch just as they were with the IDs, but obviously it was more difficult with China. In a sense the yab was a godsend for Cover, because things would have gotten really messy if they had tried to balance EN and CN while still trying to push for a worldwide unified holo like they are.

>>11460597
We're almost halfway through and the CCV incline has slowed down dramatically.
Doesn't seem like it'll be higher than 60k at this rate.
Damn... if Pekora calls Rushia and turns her Smash stream into an impromptu collab, she might have stood a chance to steal the day.

>>11460703
Well yeah, who else do you think were constantly jeering hololive for being gaijin cocksuckers who couldn't cut it in the domestic market. Nijifags have always prided their company on building their success through glorious Nippon.

>>11460859
I saw that matome, I assumed it was a troll

>>11460881
>if Pekora calls Rushia and turns her Smash stream into an impromptu collab, she might have stood a chance to steal the day.
Nah, I don’t think even the full gen3 Smash collab could beat 60k today if “impromptu” instead of pre announced

>>11460859
Fucking lol. Maybe if it was Naraka + her Apex esports boyfriends all in 3D.

>>11460777
Is anybody really surprised though?

>>11460867
And yet Niji's Virtuareal is allowed in world collabs just fine. One of their oldest VR is going to play that pirate game.

>>11460867
I feel like they could push for a holoKR if they find female idols that went into the NEET streamer life after they failed their careers. The idol scene in KR is as strong as Japan after all and it's much more cheaper to get them to travel to JP to do a 3D.

>>11460940
I don't think pekora would call anyone but your delusional if you think a full gen 3 smash collab cant beat 47k+.

>H-Hana Machia…
Is it an Indonesian tradition to stream over special dates?

>>11460781
>Gura skits, highlight
Gura doesn't have any of them yet so not sure if it's true.

>>11460953
You were saying LMAO?

>>11460971
I was expecting NijiEN to have carved out a bigger share of the EN viewers since Lazulight and Obsydia seem to have been relatively well received. Not in the sense of stealing away viewers from holoEN or anything but just having more eyes on them in general.

>>11460971
The fanbase is already hitting the point where fans only want to watch a few vtubers and it seems wave 3 isn’t on that list for most of them.

>>11461057
I said all in 3D but this is pretty rare. Not many have non vtubers in their debut. Still not gonna hit 100k, matomefag.

The stuttering is pretty bad.

>>11460971
I mean, I expected Ethyria to get Lazulight/Odysdia's normal numbers at least when there's no overlap.
Right now, it seems like they have no buff games to play, can't do unarchived characters, and are underexposed compared to previous waves.
It's a pretty rough start.

>>11460859
100k lmao. I’ll kneel if that happens. That would put her the top dog of nijifemales too even above furen and sara.

>>11461139
No it isn't, if you want to see some real stuttering hit up hololive 3D vids.

>>11460985
CN was allowed in world collabs. They even joined the ARK server. That was never the issue.

>>11460908
isn't that on 4chan only thou and I don't think anyone here is from Japan

>>11461139
Lol.

>>11460481
Speaking of Moona's number that hard to track on the last thread.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfBZwb5n-g4

yeah, she did a collab hosted on her friend channel again.

>>11461111
I was just jesting, I don't think they even have 3D models anyways.
100k for Naraka is delusional.

She lost 3k.....

>>11461139
Maybe your internet is pretty bad?

>>11460989
It's such an obvious market that I can only assume the only thing stopping them is how much nips hate gooks.

Something I noticed while watching Naraka's 3D. It feels off somehow. The quality was different so I went to go watch Miyabi 3D for a moment. I can infer that Cover at least gave some efforts to their male vtubers in comparison to Naraka. Naraka's model is okay, but the background is bland and felt rushed. Keep in mind this is room-to-room comparison. Miyabi had a whole garden outside of his room.

>>11461152
Enna's real exposure will come with her karaoke and original song release

>>11461183
I know, I think the previous Niji's 3D debut is smoother than this.

>dislike rises by 5 instantly when rindou enters
KEK

>>11460867
Well… this exist
https://youtu.be/kVnUHnz8mcc

>>11461306
all me

>>11461278
Stop talking about 3D quality in a numbers thread

>>11461256
eh after the failure of NijiKR, no one is going to touch the Korean market again.
And more importantly, Koreans prefer twitch over YouTube and they already have established streamers

>>11461044
True, what I said is just based on general trend of YT channels to come up with a guess. Take Pekora and Gura for example, despite a supposedly bigger and concentrated audience, won't be able to get a song to Gura level. Heck, she can't even come close to Marine. Her audience just don't care about her singing.

>>11461288
Unless she sings EN songs, it's not gonna be as much of a buff as you think.

>>11461218
>Mana Re.

>>11461288
the man still beleb

>>11461278
Nijisanji has some good backgrounds like the field or sky one they use for piano, but yes this room looks like shit due to bad lighting and bare design

>>11461333
3D quality perfectly explains why Nijisanji 3D events get such high viewership compared to Cover's laggy stuttery crap.

>>11461207
no it's a nip thing too, and it's also prevalent on the niji subreddit

>>11461406
yeah, that's why holo3d concerts mog the shit out of nijishitty, right?

>>11461278
She's a female in Nijisanji, anon... what did you expect?

>>11461408
>Niji subreddit
That is dead. You mean the 2434 discord, that's where bitter fags gather

>>11461278
and how much did your homo get in views?

>>11461452
>2434 discord
That place is fucking cancer

>>11461443
Watch Kagami's live, check out his views and SCs, then come back and say holoshit mogged anyone.

>>11461278
If it was any other day, I'd like to call you on your bullshit, but the room is certainly lazy as fuck. How much budget did they put into this?

>>11461406
Mao's 3D debut (one of the best showcases of Niji3D): 57k peak
Ib's 3D debut (Terrible 3D model, sat in front of a pachinko machine for 45 mins): 113k peak
AZKI 3D live (Good 3D): 40k
HoloFantasy's laggy disaster announcement stream: 94k peak

Conclusion: There's no correlation between 3D quality and numbers

>>11461452
It's alive enough for that to be prevalent, it gets a few dozen posts a day and some of them get 60 ish comments on a good day, and there's always an undercurrent of "nijisanji is superior because it's not mainstream like hololive" whenever they aren't comparing things to "the other company" and bitching about how it isn't fair the Nijisanji isn't getting as much traction

>>11461408
Your nips hate gaijins?

>>11461532
Not the same comparisons
Niji mogs in 3D debut
Holo mogs in 3D concerts (not even Ryushen & Hayato can do a combined concert to beat any Holo ones)
And before this convo gets retarded, the ccv of the free portion of a paid event is not applicable since the # of ticket holders is unknown.

>>11461540
It was a room she made herself in blender

>>11461540
Presumably, as much as the rest of the Nijis, remember that all the extra shiny must come from the livers pocket, same as holomen.

>>11461569
holobronies think that Holo Japs are somehow different from Niji Japs

>>11460565
Ahhh
Niji needs to just catch a dozen lightning bolts in bottles, and they will catch up.

>>11461606
Okay, that explains it if it was true.

>>11461586
this convo was already retarded once they started throwing around terms like holoshit and nijishitty, no point in not going full retard

>>11461568
Nah, I check all the vtuber subreddits and there's barely any complaining in Niji because there's barely any discussion. The only thing that has good engagement there are fanarts, but only sometimes.

Also, the announcement about NIjiscenario by Niji themselves only has 3 comments lol.

>Pls undastand nijisanji is a small indie company that can't even afford to buy assets from the unity store for their livers
Did I do it right?

Well looks like this debut is on the generic side.
Song -> Screenshot time -> Totsu (-> Game) -> Another song
Hope there wil be at least one more kino reveal like Fuwa's/Mashiro's/Furen's 3D

>>11461639
Wrong, they do not pay for 3D assets, but they must pay for IP rights they want to include (famously, Hayato's dragon), and extra band members that aren't in house (Levi had to)

>>11461586
was there any holo 3D live with more sc than this?

>>11461406
Then why is your homo a flop when he his 3D was "better"?

>>11461747
Coco's graduation, at least they sang songs at the end.

>>11461747
Yeah, coco graduation.

>>11461715
this year

>>11461653
>holobronies think that Holo Japs are somehow different from Niji Japs
kek, it’s not like Japanese hate gaijin. EVERYBODY hates gaijin. Mankind spends an inordinate amount of effort pretending otherwise but everybody hates “others”

>>11461837
桐生ココ卒業 "LIVE" + 3D model

>>11461837
>>11461847
ah, lol, better graduate someone else then

Man how did Uto get a smooth as silk 3d. This is decent but Uto's model looked too good.

>>11461653
this is actually true though

>>11461747
>2 hour concert featuring 16 Nijis

>>11461925
COAP

>>11461886
Yeah, lol, keep coping then.

>>11461886
Here's hoping Azki's one will be good

>thread hits bump limit
>becomes /tribal/
like fucking clockwork

>>11461902
Uto's not an "indie"

>>11461886
Niji tried but sadly Lulu just didn't have the same bang

>>11461886
You purposely avoided using CCV because you know Marine's 3D lives mogged NJU's peak.
If you want to compare SCs, then Holos have nothing to worry about since they get SCs consistently and don't rely on big paydays like Nijis do.

>>11462008
Nijis don't rely on big paydays, that's just the cherry on top of consistent merch and voice pack sales every month

>>11462008
God damn this seethe

>>11462041
Oh, haven't seen the merch and voice pack sales thing for a while now. Welcome back?

>>11461902
backed by chinks

>>11462008
>>11461950
so mad, holy shit. you holos do well too, dude, calm down.

>>11462041
>of consistent merch and voice pack sales every month
kek, that surely sounds like that age old excuse

>yeah, I have a girlfriend!
>n-no, you can’t meet her, she goes to another school
>take you there? No, it’s in CANADA!
If you can’t post numbers (in the NUMBERS thread) it might as well not exist

>>11462103

>>11462108
If you actually watched nijis instead of living in your holo bubble you'd know most of them are have talked about how they're fine with turning off SCs and making comfy money from their merch.

>>11462139
typo =!= esl

>>11462052
>>11462103
>retard gets called out for being retarded
>"durrrr y r u so maddd?"

>>11462207
Stop shilling your nijifailures in the numbers thread

>>11462041
Cool, but we're talking about SCs.
idgaf how much chuubas actually make since we can't track those numbers so it's all speculation.

>>11461973
>>11462064
proof?

>>11462207
>most of them
Press X to doubt

> how they're fine with turning off SCs and making comfy money from their merch.
This statement is useless without numbers

Naraka peaked at 52k for her 3D debut.
That's actually lower than most predictions (60k).
Would've never guessed she would peak lower than Akabane and Mao honestly.

>>11461183
Holy shit. This is the real definition of rent free.

>>11462064
Ogey, Zhang
But yes, I want to fuck "嘉然"

>>11462450

>>11462450
There's no guest right? just totsu?

>>11462374
They're running off her own claims that she was backed by a shadow company and that she had cut ties with them earlier this year after legal disputes. How much you want to believe that she did is up to you, but yea. I suspect she actually has quite a few members, but playboard does say she has 100k+ on superchats. I'm not sure what she plans to do with her 3d as a self-proclaimed indie, but we'll see.

>>11461347
No. Its just that Nijisanji is a fucking failure. See NijiID and HoloID.

>>11462480
Is this lowest numbers niji 3D ever have?

>>11462450
She would've peaked higher if she made it into a 3D Apex stream with her Apex boytoys on the stage instead

>>11462517
Yup
This anon called it. >>11461715

>>11462322
>Cool, but we're talking about SCs.
just check the SC totals then. until you mentioned her i didn't even know who RIndou was and thats because her sc total puts her at rank 108 in japan

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e104UOfdOC8
That taiwan vtuber is getting pretty good numbers singing hololive songs

>>11462520
Having a 3D means she has the chance to participate in vtuber concerts and other such events, it's not a bad move career-wise

>>11462559
>4.4k CCV
Many musically-inclined Nijis would kill to get these karaoke numbers

>>11462530
I think the bigger issue is that they never really cared for the branches other than Japan.
ID/KR/IN doing bad? Who cares, Japan is making us money. Wait, IN isn’t even breaking even? Disband them.

>>11461347
>No one is going to touch the Korean market again
nijiCope
Hololive is popular in Korea

>>11462517
>no guest
Hahahahaha
nijicope

>>11462559
is this the biggest taiwanese vtuber? its honestly crazy how taiwanese clips regularly get 100k+ views (around just as much if not more than en clisp nowadays) and tons of nt$ thrown on jp streams but there doesnt seem to be many big tw vtubers

>>11462609
>Many musically-inclined Nijis would kill
Should've joined holo then

>TOP WINNERS OF THE DAY - OCTOBER 2021

1) Korone (Hololive) - 71k - Birthday 3D
2) Ayame (Hololive) - 86k - 3D Concert
3) Hal (Indie) - 57k - CR lottery
4) Noel (Hololive) - 101k - Outfit Reveal
5) Fubuki (Hololive) - 72k - Birthday 3D
6) Pekora (Hololive) - 45k - Minecraft (ENxSubaru)
7) Subaru (Hololive) - 93k - 3rd Anniversary
8) Pekora (Hololive) - 26.2k - Mario Kart 8DX
9) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 53.4k - CR Cup Tournament
10) Luna (Hololive) - 57k - Birthday 3D
11) Pekora (Hololive) - 52k - TotsuClubhouse51
12) Subaru (Hololive) - 38k - Card Unboxing with Luna
13) Kanae (Nijisanji) - 54k - Outfit Reveal
14) Pekora (Hololive) - 36k - Minecraft
15) Naraka (Nijisanji) - 53k - 3D Debut

>FUTURE EVENTS
16) Kuzuha/Touya - Blazing Sails niji Tourney
19) Suisei - Outfit Reveal
21) Marine - Return Stream

https://twitter.com/minatoaqua/status/1448999906136363016
Aqua's first EN server tour. 20k assured, but will it hit 30k?

>>11462680
She's not taiwanese, she's a japanese vtuber who speaks chinese and lived in Taiwan for abit a few years ago. I unfortunately do not know enough about the Taiwanese vtubing scene to comment about how big she is in relation to the others

https://twitter.com/oozorasubaru/status/1448997492666683394?s=20 subaru twitter space at 10k right now

>>11462714
>sharky hood
If Gura actually logs in, 30K.

>>11462714
>https://twitter.com/minatoaqua/status/1448999906136363016
At least make it tomorrow, idiot. She would've won tomorrow.

>>11462714
>20k assured, but will it hit 30k?
Unironically depends on if Pekora finishes her stream on time and if she has a guide.
Knowing Baqua, she'll be too nervous to get a guide and will stumble around like Suisei did.

>>11462714
Depends on if any EN members that can speak JP are on. If their are, an impromptu guided tour through the server could get her to 30k since the only other things going on are singing, and singing/Mc overlaps don't affect the numbers as badly.

>>11462532
no

2021
>Fuwa Minato 144,128
>Ibrahim 117,475
>Furen E Lustario 98,736
>Melissa Kinrenka 82,345
>Mashiro 74,574
>Machita Chima 74,554
>Tomoe Shirayuki 74,092
>Amamiya Kokoro 73,118
>Aiba Uiha 66,920
>Akabane Youko 65,916
>Matsukai Mao 57,578
>Levi Elipha 55,953
>Naraka 53,062 - NEW!
>Fumino Tamaki 50,470
>Kanda Shoichi 49,644
>Ratna Petit 48,915
>Yuhi Riri 46,515
>Aizono Manami 46,539
>Yuhi Riri 46,515
>Emma August 39,181
>Moria 27,859

>>11462714
My shitty philippines internet is fucked up right now.
Can't load the twitter link. What time will she start? Is it today?

>>11462714
Probably, her last mc stream was on the way to hitting 30k before she postponed the en tour for another stream

A question: How valuable/good a channel like those of Gura, Marine vs Calli/Suisei when it comes to music?
Gura, Marine have much higher burst of views, making records while Calli, Suisei has low burst but very consistent view growth. Marine and Gura songs both are now growing lower than RIP or Ghost for example, despite the early output.

>>11462713
>8) Pekora (Hololive) - 26.2k - Mario Kart 8DX
>14) Pekora (Hololive) - 36k - Minecraft
How?

>>11462843
11 pm jst

>>11462843
It starts in 40 minutes

>>11462714
>Aqua's first EN server tour. 20k assured, but will it hit 30k?
Depends on who's escorting her.

>>11462615
>they never really cared for the branches other than Japan
I’ll admit I don’t watch Niji but didn’t they spend like a billion dollars for NijiEN debuts while HoloEN just got a minute long PowerPoint presentation made in like 30 minutes? Also didn’t they release an “anime” which took several months to make?

>>11462899
It's a daily ranking... Nothing happened that day