/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

My dick is hyped for Bae's womb

>>11317127
they were all shit and everyone left after debut

>>11317127
Everyone had a sinking feeling in their stomach when they saw Sana for the first time in the third trailer.
It was that moment that people realized Hololive wasn't about quality anymore.

>>11317127
They're all shit.

>>11317127
the death of Sana's dog

You

Kronii’s massive fart

>>11318026
Keep posting that, schizochama

>>11318089
WHEN? WHEN? CLIP? CLIP PLEASE?

>>11317127
A general decline in chuubing during a minecraft buff arc
Hopefully when minecraft dies again and they actually have to try they'll develop more as characters and streamers

People found out I was fucking the owl

>>11317127
fauna having a shit voice alongside rrats, mumei being boring alongside rrats, rrat being ollie 2.0 but worse, kronii being mori but somehow more boring, and sana unironically being black.

>>11317127

It didn't the council still have some hype left

>>11318521
Incidentally, I'm sick to death of Minecraft streams across the whole Vtubing scene. They're always so boring.

Nothing. They've all been kino.

>>11317127
The fact this looks like a fanmade image

>>11317127
>Westerners flock to ho****ve as an anti-China virtue signal
>aggregate around new "talents" (EN1), particularly the "Baby Shark" for... reasons
>Coco graduates
>"Free Hong Kong" virtue-signalers dissipate
>EN2 rolls out
Simple as.

Timezones, Kronii's the only one I can consistently catch. Would watch bae a lot more if her times were better.
>>11318497
late ass

>>11317127
>What killed the hype
IRyS avatar

>>11317127
jesus, now that I take a good look at them, I feel they're all overdesigned

>>11318026
found the samefag post

>>11317127
Tbey are all the same, is like every chuuba is "le quirky bisexual/lesbian geeky girl". Damn dude, give me something else, a regular women chuuba would be a change of pace now.

>>11318998
How tf is Mumei overdesigned?

>>11319019
Found the Cover Corporation bot.

>>11319130
More than 2 colors == overdesigned

>>11317127
Whatever "chemistry" that they may have, it seems forced

>>11318050
LET'S GOOOOOOOO

>>11317127
I fucking hate Kroni and her shitty attitude.

>>11317127

It's called "politics before pragmatism." Most of you know it as "get woke, go broke" (although, in most cases, it can more accurately be called "go broke, go woke").

With all the other vtuber competition out there they aren't setting themselves apart. I can't name one draw they have alone and when together you just get the occasional cute Kronii and Mumei interactions. Not enough to even grab attention from Hololive only followers.

>>11319679
Why do you talk like some cringe ass skeptic youtuber?

>>11319130
Take Amber from Genshin, good design. Add more asymmetry to her legs, add 'quirky' boots, cover her torso in knicknacks, add a clock, and don't forget to transform Amber's iconic ribbon into owl feathers. Overdesigned, only advantage Mumei has is that you only see her torso.

>>11318026
I literally got a 3 day site wide ban last week for calling Ina boring

>>11319924
Because I used the phrase "get woke, go broke" and that's the first thing your sheltered mind jumped to.

>>11320070
If you haven't noticed yet Ina controls the upper echelons of holoEN and (by extension) this board.

>>11317127
Too much minecraft from the start, and there's nothing particularly "special" about any of them. Myth is known for their individual talents, but Council, aside from Sana, aren't really much more than your average EN vtuber. Like the NijiENs they're just streamers with nothing unique about them.

>>11320303
Why not just cut out the extra assumptions and say that /vt/ jannies are "Free Hong Kong" baizuo, protecting the "freedom"-loving ho****ve with their ban-hammer-shaped dicks?

>>11320849
Baelz is literally a CCP agent. Not on their side, retard.

>>11317127
The same thing that created the hype. Chuuni level lore. You expect them to be super elite übermensch gods at the top of their game, but no, they end up too mediocre.

>>11321004
>Cantonese speaker
>CCP official language: Mandarin
I wish it was so.

>>11317984
What the fuck does that mean?

>>11317127
Hype relative to what? Because they're all doing really good even Sana who doesn't stream and has "low subs" (still more than everyone in NijiEN) is making a killing in SCs. Everyone else has top 100~ overall chubas viewership, Is the hype really dead when Kronii can get 15k+ just by booting up minecraft?

the vaccine. n*qqas can go out the house now

>>11321624
Baizuo run the EN branch of ho****ve. It was obvious when the "Free Hong Kong" crowd started gaining interest in vtubing.

me

>>11317127
Killed? They are dabbing on 99% of the industry including their JP co-workers

>>11317127
Unironically why are Fauna and Sana barefoot?

>>11317127
Hiring people for their connections to existing staff with the expectation of better cultural fit and internal harmony instead of going for the more highly talented unknowns that undoubtedly applied but carried risk of health/menhera/bitch instability.

In short, they played it too safe this gen.Low risk, low reward.

>>11322613
Because nature-related gods

Yagoo had no courage to say you suck to illustrators who suck

>>11322613
For my sexual satisfaction

>>11321624
It means that >>11317984 is pissed Hololive introduced a single characterwhose skin tone isn't Caucasian White or Japanese White like the literal dozens of other characters in their stable, but despite being on a forum where it's basically celebrated if you're an open white supremacist, they're uncomfortable just saying that out loud.

>>11322613
Women shouldn't be allowed to wear shoes.
If they have to deal with hard, rough ground like pavement they should be princess carried across it.

>>11321729
>Is the hype really dead when Kronii can get 15k+ just by booting up minecraft?
That's THE buff game though, you can't just say "just by booting up minecraft"

>>11317127
For me: no lolis is instant no watch. I wrote them off the second their designs were revealed and haven't watched more than clips so far.

If the gen had even 1 loli I would have seen the others through osmosis. At this point: I just don't care.

i dont follow the lore fully. can some one explain what omega is supposed to be?

>>11327390
MV director/manager

>>11317127
Lackluster nijisanji-tier character designs and totally unremarkable voices and personalities. They're excruciatingly bland compared to the rest of Hololive.This killed the hype dead.

>>11320070
>calling Ina boring
Ina's comfy. You fucking deserved it.

>>11327669
comfy means boring

>>11317127
Aussies

>>11320070
Good, hope you learned your lesson

>>11327669
That doesn't mean anything

>>11323496
go back you kike faggot

>>11327754
>>11319653
the only reason I'm still keep with with the gen is the aussies

>>11317127
They still need more time to hit their stride. Holobronies won't admit it but holomyth was just as safe and boring for a long time.

>>11317127
Funny how the new Nijis are kino but will fly under the radar because npcs don't watch stuff without the only brand™ they know on it.

>>11317127
For me as an European, timezones...
Later the obvious ASMR chuuba who was clear she was going to do GFE, rrat not being ky0resu but being a aussie-chang, Mumei who her cuteness was a blatant act (But later I liked her because it seems to be playing the Lex Luthor path) and Kronii who at first I was like ''SEEEEEEEEEEEEEEXXXX'' but later I noticed she didn't know how to entertain, but I think she will get better

>>11328056
Nijisanji is the equivalent of brand™

>44. Kronii 457k subs
>46. Mumei 359k subs
>48. Fauna 305k subs
>49. Bae 301k subs
>51. Roberu 217k subs
>53. Sana 199k subs

what's going on?

>>11328056
>i'm going to piss on you haha eat my shit im a catgirl (actual dialogue)
>i smeared my period all over (actual dialogue)
>governments are breaking down all over the world. It's getting people to kinda, stop, and say "hey, why am I giving money to this person?". We'll talk about this. After [didn't get it], so many brands didn't actually say anything during BLM And it's forced us, the streamers, the people, like, the regular people, to actually get upset and start looking at content differently (actual dialogue)
>just a normal ghost
>Kino

Whatever that stupid countdown was for the trailer or was that for Irys

>>11317127
Kronii and Fauna.

>>11327754
the Australians are what keep me interested in en2 because they have more leeway to reach over the aisle and tap a HoloJP on the shoulder to collab with unlike the other 3

i thought this was bottom of the barrel until nigger3ji en wave 3 debuted and realized council wasn't that bad

>>11328513
The only one I like is Millie, but she is fading fast.

>>11328513
>try and enjoy holoen2
>get to like Irys more
>try and enjoy nijien3
>get to like Selen more

>>11329180
It's almost as if the later gens are rejects from prior gens.

>>11328286
>>governments are breaking down all over the world. It's getting people to kinda, stop, and say "hey, why am I giving money to this person?". We'll talk about this. After [didn't get it], so many brands didn't actually say anything during BLM And it's forced us, the streamers, the people, like, the regular people, to actually get upset and start looking at content differently (actual dialogue)

>>11328286
One of these is not like the others.

>>11317127
There was never a hype desu
They were clearly being shoved. And the designs are boring, never caught my eyes.
Now after a few weeks we can attest the nonhype is not without merit. Green girl might be the worst vtuber ever and I dont even remwmber her name. The rat can be cute and fun, sana is meh, the owl is alright
but let me tell you about kroni. She is boring, cant entertain, and now after a while after her collabs you can see she doesnt know what she's doing and her dialogues are all bad, she just mumbles clearly afraid of saying something bad or wrong that'd put her in trouble, and it's not even from anxiety or any social ineptitude -- but corporativism. On top of that she sounds like an AM professional radio ad announcer. She can die in a fire for all I care.

>>11329901
Bae is my fav 2nd gen by miles and miles.

>>11317127
Nothing. I quite like Kronii, Mumei and Bae.

I think they got a bit overshadowed by IRyS, though.

>>11319129
It'd be nice to see chuubas that didn't yuribait constantly.

>>11317127
I don't know, more than a month of existence?

It's oversaturation really, there's no real reason why EN2 should be added in the first place. A normal HoloEN watcher already has trouble keeping up with HoloMyth that they have to use VODs, what's the point of adding HoloCouncil which only makes it harder for a normal person to catch up to all the streams and content without relying on clips?

>>11322675
Yeah, Ina's nepotism kind of fucked it. I'm glad they took a gamble on IRyS, though, even if she has a harder time fitting in comparatively.

>>11330589
Yeah, they should have introduced them slowly.

>>11327473
The designs are great though. The worst you can say is that Sana had some unusual choices, but her design does fit her goofy energy in the end.

>>11327473
100%.
>>11331169
Sana's design is interesting from the waist down. Her hair balls don't do her any favors especially given the color selections. Her eyes are even a bland color choice considering the rest of her design. She looks like a bunch of shades of beige, which is objectively boring. She would look better with a red or black dress, this is only one minor change of many that would improve her design.
Kronii and Bae are objectively great designs. Fauna's color scheme is good and she has the right amount of detail without being excessive. Mumei is another brown on brown character. She is so brown that they had to force themselves to add black and white streaks to her hair to attempt to make the design more interesting. She would look better with a dark green or blue cape.

>>11331784
Like Nene, Sana will be saved by her 2nd outfit

IRyS did, factually and indisputably

>>11319653
But they're the best two.

It's almost like when EN1 came there was a perfect storm setup for them to grow, with very little competition, making any subsequent additions look worse.

IRyS mogged the 5 of them

>>11317127
not enough appeal to pedophiles

>>11332567
It's honestly like cover hates success

>>11317127
>Fauna
Fake voiced nature hippie thing
>Sana
Brown
>Bae
A literal rat
>Kronii
Man voice
>Muemi
An actual full blown autistic person

Also, the lore power creep and being associated with omega tranny .

>>11331784
>She would look better with a red or black dress, this is only one minor change of many that would improve her design.
It's be so easy to make Sana's dress a night sky. All black with stars and nebulas and shit.

Council were literally brought in JUST to build up the En minecraft server

>they're not 100 million subscribers within 1 month so they're a flop

>>11330589
>no real reason why EN2 should be added in the first place
because there's people who don't watch Myth anymore? you stupid?

>>11332878
>the lore power creep
this dumb bitch acting like they're pulling up to the tenkaichi budokai to sweep the protagonists with god powers and not just character themes

>>11332878
If you think Kronii has a man voice it is safe to say you have not spent very much time speaking to women.

>>11333372
>lore power creep
how is it not? hololive has gone from cheerleaders, maids, and idol singers to deities of space and time
>>11333431
of the 11 members of EN she definitely hasnt the manliest voice of them

>>11317127
They gave me Bae but I already had Bea

People like this guy
>>11332878
>Sana
>Brown
Imagine being so racist that you automatically hate an anime girl because she's tanned.

I like how Sana is a big racist filter, being both an aussie and tanned. Literally the two things that scare all kind of /pol/fags.

>>11317127
Council seemed to be recruited specifically to be way better in collabs than the autism factory that makes up Myth, I'd compare month 1 Council to month 9 Myth. The major problems with that though is that they're way worse in solo streams and the fact that they don't fucking stream most of their interactions, in Minecraft anyways. Mumei's boring solo, Sana just says Kusa every few minutes, Bae is a worse Ollie, Fauna and Kronii are OK, but not great. I'll watch their collabs when I can, but most of their solo streams are easy passes for me, especially since we have not one but two aussies streaming at shit o clock.

>>11322613
Fauna is literally Nature, why wouldn't a nature loving hippy be barefoot? Sana is Space, the fuck is she stepping on?

>>11318573
>rrat being Ollie 2.0
Just say you don't watch streams retard Jesus

>>11317127
No cunny or DFC.

>>11328056
It's another "Retard makes up a person to hate" post huh... Boring, get new material

>>11334432
Im not seeing a problem here.

I'm happy people are finally seeing how boring Kronii is. She has her moments but I am constantly filtered away every time I'm about to get a little bit interested.
>>11334492
I don't understand why Bae is compared to Ollie so much. Yes she is crazy sometimes, but Bae also has a cozy normal side. Ollie is a huge narcissist.

>>11333147
This. I stopped watching myth months ago, but I'm quite enjoying the council girls right now for the most part

>>11335242
>Ollie is a huge narcissist.
Is she? Never paid much attention to HoloID.

>>11317127
Youtube fucked them hard on subs, reducing their initial exposure, and by the time normies would've noticed anything was wrong, EN1 was having their anniversary.

>>11317127
So was one of them actually an only fans girl?

>>11334972
Yeah. She gave up kayfabe outside of collab streams and she's actually pretty cozy. Entertaining zatsu and a very zoomer imouto experience. Also sex.

>>11328215
turns out ina sucks at scouting

for me, it's the boyfriends.

>>11333730
JP are the good guys, EN are the 'evil' boss characters (yes, even Watson, who'se the mindbroken good turned evil time travelling sociopath)

>Omega is Kronii
I can't stand that it, and it pretending to be two roles is bullshit.

>>11322544
>dabbing
this is your brain on /vt/

>>11335993
>zoomer imouto experience
Jesus, that sounds like hell.

>>11336919
I mean, yeah if you're a homosexual

>>11336510
where dose ID fit in your head canon

they speak too much japanese, or at least are hanging out with the JPs too much, even the one who barely knows japanese. I want to watch EN so I can understand what's happening

>>11335242
Kronii solo streams are the most boring shit ever and her collabs are entertaining because she's a trainwreck when interacting with others. I honestly don't see she lasting, she might be actually too menhera for this and this is saying a lot when talking about hololive.

>>11317127
HoloMyth was an event and fans were excited to be a part of it. The girls were like pioneers on an uncharted island and viewers wanted to go for the ride and support them on their journey. Pretty much everything they posted to their schedule early on was exciting and fresh and you really developed a bond with them and wanted to support them as they built up the empire that it is today.

Fast forward to today - the magic is gone; the island has been gentrified, the girls take their audience for granted by insulting them, nothing exciting happens anymore; just endless Minecraft.

Instead of revitalizing HololiveEN, in comes EN2 who aren't risktakers, just opportunists looking to cash in on the work EN1 did. Dumb disjointed designs, given arbitrary powerlevels to make them superior to EN1 who people still care about. After a couple mildly interesting first couple weeks, they have also devolved into doing nothing but micra.

People are bored.

>>11323496
I am a literal /pol/ white supremacist of the kind you fear, and Sana is my oshi. Here’s the truth that terrifies you: its a tan.

>>11334432
>being both an aussie and tanned. Literally the two things that scare all kind of /pol/fags.
you clearly have never been on /pol/

>>11317127
The fact that if they weren't associated with hololive they'd be a 2view on Twitc

>>11338317
Rat and Nature had a decent viewerbase in her PLs, Mumei was rather massive, Sana wasn't a who but she wasn't broadcaster. Kronii was the only outlier but she was still far from a 2view.

>>11334432
/pol/ loves aussies what are you on about. Only moot hated them because he couldn't handle bantz

>>11317127
lack of cunny

>>11338975
Only right answer

>>11317127
Ethyria

>>11327669
its a bit like choosing beige as your favorite color

>>11340485
It doesn't have to be your favorite color for you to be comfortably wearing it.

>>11334492
ok, but what led to you being so wrong about bae?

>>11340550
you're missing the metaphor here

>>11322544
what's going on with sana? did youtube fucked her subs count?

>>11318497
check the /ringo/ archive

>>11337962
>Still trying to blame minecraft when it's the ONLY thing EN fans watch outside of Apex

It's twice as bad as JP fans, minecraft is damn near a TRIPLE viewership boost at this point

>Commander Riku, another hololive demoralization thread successfully planted
>Well done Agent 103.50, head to the extraction point, Agent Selen will join you shortly
>Call undercover Agent Gigguk and Connor, have him prepare another collab with Calliope and Ollie
>If we keep this up Holobronies will abandon ship and join our ranks
>How's the EN2 Subs Purge going by the way? Get Susan on the line
>also find a way to spin this as a fault of Cover's incompetency
>Put Niji Wave 4 on standby, we need to siphon those subs from EN2 asap
>Commencing Operation: Holocaust 2.0

>>11341045
Yes. She also has outfit debuff, strong accent filtering ESL, couldn't stream for a week because of the jab and her dog just dead.

>>11317127
the council is tainted

>>11334432
Nigger.

>>11342300
and still manages to get the second most sc income. saviorfags doing their part

>>11342563
To be fair she do put more work into her stream than everyone else in her gen

Other than Kronii, EN2 seems to be made up of more "normal" girls than EN1

Those shit designs, every single one of them looks like someone went into the code vein character creator and randomized everything

>>11322544
I fucking hate saviorfags

>>11317127
The first wave not being as good as the JP side

i hate sana's and irys's avatars

>150 posts
im starting to think that some of you who think holocouncil is a failure aren't just shitposting and baiting
is it just pure delusion or do any of you have some actual metrics to support your claims?

nepotism, simple as

>>11320070
Kek same. To this date it's the only ban I've recieved when posting on this board.

>>11348730
Numbers wise, they arent failed, but they arent very talented.
Like holoID has more talent, and they are 3rd world SEAnigs

>>11317127
EN2 was only introduced to make you like the girls from EN1 you were lukewarm on more.

>>11323862
basedbasedbased

>>11317127
Me

>>11328215
Hm? What IS going on?

>>11317127
my planet sized dick

>>11337998
cope

>>11342755
Nice joke

>>11317127

Fauna > Mumei >> Kronii > Sana > Hakos

>>11322544
Only because they are fresh. Wait a month and then look again.

>>11318573
>alongside rrats
Bro those were proven stop being in denial

>>11318814
Okay Zhang

>>11336329
Just invest in rratcoin

>/vt/ hates Council because of rrats, Sana being brown, "muh boring" and other buzzwords or cringe reasons
Yep, i think Council is based

literally nijiEN
by the time council was announced people had already gotten a taste for good content after months of holoEN being stale as shit and marred by shitposting, the reddit fanbase, and lack of unity

>>11317127
>Ceres
who?
>Sana
The model takes some time to get used to, but she is a nice girl
>Baelz
Petra 2.0, actually a HoloJP. Don't enjoy her forced genki character.
>Kronii
Reddit vtuber. Now everyone says she is a menhera. minecraft addict
>Mumei
Part-time vtuber, each time I looked at her schedule I question myself why I even bothered

They did kind of bad in their first month, not showcasing why they were different to the whole ass sea of vtubers out there. I didn't even bother checking them out after that, I have enough vtubers to follow.

>>11322544
I fucking love saviorfags!!

The two most popular girls in the group barely stream.

New, but I just don't like their designs. They seem way too over the top. Its weird to use powercreep as a descritpor for Vtubers but manifestations of time and space feel out of place alongside the rest

>get a ticket to the gravytrain thousands of funbucks guaranteed
>stream once of twice each week
someone explain

It was when you realized Fauna got in but her past life was pretty basic and unexceptional. I mean I’m happy she got into the place she wanted to get into but she wasn’t a unique Vtuber in the slightest she was pretty bland. She does ASMR but she wasn’t really good at it. Which leads me to be believe many didn’t have equipment to stream. Because I can’t imagine she could have been a first pick. I feel like fauna (and desu all of HoloEN2) really shows that Hololive doesn’t look for “the best of the best” they’re just looking for people who stream.

>>11342180
Holy mother of based.

>>11317127
actual answer: delaying the debut date by a day

>>11317127
They're forgettable to say the least and they don't have designs strong enough to carry them, except for Kronii and her massive tits.

>>11350650
If that was their goal they definitely failed.

They started doing chuuni background lore. No one cares if you're the personification of time or something, we just want to see big booba bounce and boing boing. Omega has this shitty edgy chuuni lore going on that no one wanted or asked for.

Also I think their lack of popularity has to do with youtube nuking their sub numbers a few times, things are popular because people see other people like a thing and that in turn causes them to like the same thing because other people like it, with numbers getting nuked there was no energy to feed off of.

>>11317984
i lost hope in hololive when kiara got on board. i was just like god damn all that vetting and shit and this was the best you got? an obnoxious lesbian austrian with an ugly design a shit mic and a grating voice?

>>11367300
People forget that Youtube nuked Myth's numbers when they were first coming up as well.

>>11368105
because people were using spam accounts to subscribe

>>11317127
me, sorry guys.

>>11337962
>given arbitrary powerlevels to make them superior to EN1 who people still care about.
This is probably the dumbest thing about EN2, their lore is fucking stupid. Nothing is more boring then "Oh this person is the god of the entire multiverse and is immortal k thx bai". Korone's lore is literally more fun and interesting to read then any of the EN 2 lore. I do give props to the girls for trying to run with the shit lore they were given, but Kiara's take on it was on point.

>>11317127
the rrat wasn't the reggetonera russian loli https://youtu.be/QUaFFzsiwCM

>>11317127
Tits.

>>11319129
I wish they'd hire an unironic 43 year old woman and didn't lean into LE AEXY LEWD MOMMY. In fact, mommyfags should get the rope, too. But an order woman just quietly enjoying games and showing any random talent would be nice.

Not enough anzacs

They hired too many fucking Americans. Why only 2 Australians and one Canadian? Why not 4 Australians? Why not 3 Australians and 1 Canadian? Why not 2 Australians and 2 Canadians? Why not 1 Australian and 3 Canadians?

>>11321187
I bet she speaks mando too. Most families that know canto know both.

>>11371502
Bitch.

2/5s of their gen can't even speak English.

>>11375627
Botan exists, you know