/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Eventually everyone but poorfags will live in the virtual world. It's the way of the future.

killing yourself

>>1119496
Winning.

tubing, retard

Vtubing is for people who have nothing else to look forward to.

>>1119496
making more money than they could ever dream of by playing video games and singing. Gura would be working at walmart without vtubing.

>>1119496
I see you haven't ever had a shitty job before. I would take playing video games to a bunch of losers over being treated like shit and wearing my body out every time.

>>1119693
I mean, that's only if you are good and hit the jackpot joining Hololive. Most indie chuubas don't really earn that much.
Still, you are getting paid for something you like so I see it as a win even if it's only a hobby

>>1119496
tubing virtually

>>1119868
That's the same for musicians and actors, but I don't see anyone calling them sad.

People that want to vtube for the money will quickly find themselves in literally who hell and find out that they have no personality and are boring.

People that vtube out of loneliness will, even on the unlikely chance of succeeding, find themselves distant from their fans and still without actual friends that aren't just horny simp fans.

In Gura's case, you spend 3 hours a day playing games or reading out comments while half drunk, then you get loads of money.

>>1120465
Second sentence is dead wrong.

>>1119496
I love Gura!

>>1119593
this

>>1119496
How is it any sadder than normal streamers, or entertainers in general?

>>1120461
You never saw someone say "oh you won't make money from this, good luck wasting all your life opportunities, better stop now and learn to code it's what people want just saying :^)" to a professional artist?

>>1119496
>Gura with pacifier picture
Is it time to start posting padded Hololives again?

>>1120775
No please

>>1120461
A musician or an artist is improving a skill at least. Despite some genuine entertainment to be had by streamers, most waste their time playing games or talking and doing nothing really that can help them when they retire. Some learn to sing or learn to dance, but that is usually the exception.

>>1121115
You do realise that many of the vtubers are in fact singers and song writers? Gura is learning to play the banjo for some reason, too.

>>1120702
It's a legit advice consider there are only 1% who can survive with arts. It took more than just drawing: luck, marketing skill,... unless you are jew and do money laundering with banana and duct tape.

Pretending to be an anime girl and keeping your anonymity while thousands of lonely weebs pay you for it doesn't sound so bad to me.

>>1120775
Yes please

>>1119496
wagecucks would never understand.

>>1121774
I think people here are more concerned with the future prospect. All good things have an end.
>>1121522
I think having at least a few songs is already a fair distinction that you can use that talent professionally. I am not sure if Gura meets the same bar with strumming a few notes on her banjo and karaoke. Nothing against her, I know she wants to make an original song as well and I hope she gets there.
>>1120775
Let's make a compromise. You can post those all you want but as a deal I don't want to say any more chuuba abuse.

>>1119593
the internet is a series of tubers

>>1120618
Based.

But keep in mind, what the fuck else are Gura and Ame going to do? Mori was apparently poor as fuck too. Only Ina has a 'real' job.

>>1119496
you are getting money from talking to people

in a workplace environment, you get a lot less money, not only do you also talk to people but you are also obligated to do work at strict schedules nonstop

>>1122724
We know Mori was a rapper before she started vtubing, and she's produced songs under HL. But either way, entertaining is entertaining.

>>1123921
Sure, but that's only Mori. and even there I wouldn't be sure that her popularity was enough to keep her afloat. And I would not be too sure that the fame from HL carries over, though I absolutely wish it for all of them. Experiences among /mlp/ show that you got to find something else that keeps you popular, and I do not think all 30+ holos would have that luck if they were to count on that as a future career.

>>1119496
Most don't care about views, but have fun. The smaller companies and indies I watch are usually super chill and love to entertain even if it's for double-digits. I feel like holoEN is suffering from having high expectations as well as meme numbers, you can tell Gura doesn't want the popularity while Kiara is the opposite. It works best for girls like Ina and Mori who have other projects and income.

>>1119496
>what are you even doing

>>1120461
That's wrong though, wannabe actors and musicians are absolutely looked down on unless they make it
>>1121115
The fact that you don't consider those things worthwhile does not actually make that true. I think you just dislike video games

>>1120775
Of course.

>>1122749
Wasn't Mori' roommate a somewhat established artist and also an English teacher. How does that leave her roommate so poor.

>>1127190
>somewhat established artist
Weaboo rapper with small cult following isn't exactly what I'd call established.

>>1126931
There has at least been some bleed over of fans from Mori to her roomate (partly because Youtube likes to recommend roomate videos and channels) so for certain talents the HL fame somewhat carries over.

>>1119496
Making mad money for playing video games all day while still keeping your private life for yourself so you can still enjoy anonimity while spending your easy earn money.

Seems awesome.

>>1127037
there's more to life then money.
what about workplace satisfaction?

>>1127226
The roomate should drop that rap stuff and instead become my wife.

>>1119496
It just seems like a lot of work and pressure to be a micro celebrity desu desu. I love watching them but I do worry about their stress levels building up.

>>1127308
Better than spending all day having boomers getting filtered by Microsoft Teams. It must be strange having thirsty simps giving you hundreds of dollars though.

>>1127308
>what about workplace satisfaction?
What about it? Not having to leave your house and go to a job and be forced to interact with people you hate, all while getting paid, sounds like a dream.

>>1122724
>I think having at least a few songs is already a fair distinction that you can use that talent professionally. I am not sure if Gura meets the same bar with strumming a few notes on her banjo and karaoke.

Her pre-HoloLive channel has literally 20+ shitpost songs with at least 1 million views each, with the top performing video reaching 25+ million views...

Do your research, f*g

>>1128373
Exactly, they are shitposts. Your point?

>>1128442
>implying that makes a difference

>>1127150
fuck why am I hard
No seriously, why the fuck did this make me hard?

>>1128581
It does. The difference is that you can rely on a talent that is in demand. Shitposts require a lot of external factors to be acknowledged enough for the revenue to be worthwhile. But you are not going to depend on your revenue from shitposts for 10 years, much less put them on your resumé. There are few Youtubers who have been fulltiming this long for good reasons. It's already difficult enough without having to rely on luck and the kindness of the algorithm to make a living off of it.

>>1128760
It seems putting shitposts on her resumé worked out fine for Gura :D

>>1128672
You have reached a higher plane, welcome.

>>1127190
I think English teachers don't get paid much and
>live performance during the chyna virus
I haven't done my roommate reps, but I've always heard she was kind of poor pre Hololive.

>>1128864
That's her being a somewhat entertaining streaming presence and it's working out for her now. I am not saying she isn't talented or doesn't deserve where she is now. But for the third time, long-term success matters. How many vtubers do you expect to continue streaming in 10 years?

>>1119496
They get all the cash and perks of being a streamer with none of the loss of privacy/anonymity that comes with being an "online influencer". It's genuinely the best of both worlds. There's a reason so many people are dogpiling it right now. A vtuber who has "made it" is maybe the most comfortable position you can be in.

>>1128672
Time to accept your new fetish anon.